@@SaiyanMotion do u think he will turn evil when he not hit his head? I think he will be pure heart kind like his dad Like any saiyan there are bad and good But vegeta radiz and universe 6 saiyan make goku chaging his mind and accepted the name "kakarot" in dbs broly movie last scene
For the scaling, I dont know if Bardock would reach the billions in base. One thing to keep in mind is exactly HOW they train. Goku in canon for example, is a martial artist, meaning there's a much more spiritual component to his power. Vegeta on the other hand, does the same or similar training to Goku because he wanted to catch up to him and thats not even close to enough. Goku even states so himself, theres a line between training and just straight up torturing your body which I dont think Bardock would have the insight to know. Ki itself is composed of three separate energies; spirit, mental, and physical. Now, theoretically, the more ki you have, the stronger you should be if we go off what the guides tell us but it never tells us that these energies necessarily have to be at a perfect ratio in order to Utilize ki to become stronger. Thus Goku is able to focus on all three pillars of Ki rather than just one making him the superior fighter to Vegeta, atleast during Z and thats why I think Bardock wouldn't be at a Powerlevel of 1.5 billion.
Oh man I don't remember this series at all. So it was good rewatching this series again and finish it too now onto the next full series and finish. 👍 Yeah the problem here is Prefect Cell, and with no access to the Time Chamber is a problem. Although there is the idea of Future Trunks and Gohan going into the Time Chamber together for 2 years could be the differences in beating Cell. Anyways overall another good series, and looking forward to your next video soon.
Hey Saiyan Motion, I’m a little confused. I thought the Dragon Balls at this time could only bring people back from the dead who stay dead for year’s time at most.
@@thomasmagassouba518 Why couldn't Shenron revive them? He was able to revive Frieza who was dead for over a decade, why couldn't he revive Bardock and Gine? It's never been stated that he can't revive a single or two people dead more than a year. It was implied that you can't bring back a group of people dead over a year such as a city's worth of people. Saiyan Motion does know what he's talking about bro 😭
"Life is a game of choices". One tiny choice that is made can alter the future in unknown ways. I would love to see a series based off of Goku not hitting his head. I don't think Cell would win. I think Future Trunks would bring something back or knowledge that could help them. Maybe fusion?
I mean... the trauma of having her entire family wiped out in front of her would give her a BEEEFY rage boost, and since saiyan bodies are fueled by intense emotion, with her quite litterally seeing the last hope of her race wiped out in front of her... ssj2 or even 3 COULD be possible, not likely but plausible.
what about the roughly 3 year timeskip between Trunks showing off SSJ and the initial androids attack? Do you not think in that time the group would figure out SSJ?Do you not think that Trunks would stay behind specifically to teach SSJ to the saiyans after learning they don't have it? And do you not think Kami can upgrade the RoSaT? All those factors make the ending kind of a cop-out.
1. SSJ was unlocked through trauma for every single one of them. Goku through the death of his best friend, vegeta through not being able to surpass goku and gohan through the 4 times his neck had been broken. I don’t see a scenario in which they would learn SSJ just from knowing it exists this time around, it doesn’t make sense in my mind. As you saw they did end up unlocking it when said trauma was experienced. 2. Trunks didn’t stay originally to provide any help because goku proved he was stronger then him with a single finger. This time their base is almost too much for trunks, like PLENTY to beat him. He would just think they’re well off like he did normally, or even more so cuz they beat him in bass. 3. Kami didn’t upgrade the room originally, that was dende, so that just ain’t gonna happen at all.
@@SaiyanMotion 1. In the original series, Gohan unlocks SSJ through rigorous training in the RoSaT. I find it hard to believe that in 3 years of constant training, *none* of the much more powerful saiyans learned SSJ through feelings of inadequacy (like Vegeta) or just through pure training (like Gohan). 2. Actually this brings up a whole other host of questions about Trunks. Is the future timeline the same as in canon or adapted for this series? If it's the first option, then wouldn't Trunks want to stay back because of how different the timeline is to his original, or hell, even bring one of the Z-Fighters to the future to fight the androids, possibly even training in the RoSaT there? If it's the second, then how is Trunks weaker than Goku and still alive? Would the Androids not have been scaled up to a ridiculous amount there as well? If they are the same power as the normal timeline, how did any of the Z-Fighters (especially the Saiyans and Piccolo) die to them? 3. While a fair point that Dende removed the limit in the original, wasn't the limit on the room a superficial one made by Kami to limit the amount of training done? If so, then why couldn't he remove it? If it was an actual limit built into the machine, what's stopping Kami from using the DBs to remove the limit beforehand? Why wouldn't he do so in the dire circumstances of the Androids attack? More points: Why are Krillin and the humans scaled so ridiculously low? Would they not also train in the RoSaT with gravity etc to gain similar power to the saiyans? Of course, 19 and 20 would still overpower them but not as easily realistically. Also if Piccolo from birth was training with the saiyans, how was he killed so easily? He was similar in power to 20 in the original, and even without Fusing with Nail he should be leagues above that power through training with the much more powerful Saiyans by now.
@@mysticangeldbyt I only wish to address the future trunks point right now. The future tru is timeline is a constant, is would be the same as normally because as we’ve established in the anime and manga, trunks’ timeline is straight up different. Think about it this way, the original trunks didn’t stay back for the three years, he came back, and realized the timeline was a mess and not the same, then he trained to beat cell, ended up succeeding with gohan and went back to beat his androids. Now we implement my version, trunks comes back, realizes the z fighters are very strong, goes back like he did normally, comes back, realizes the time line is a mess and different, Then dies to cell.
@@mysticangeldbyt and for your “more points.” Like originally the humans just become weaker in comparison to the saiyans. It’s just not possible for them to keep up and when you think about it piccolo wasn’t killed easily. As I said, these androids are fed the data and power off the z fighters in this story so they are ridiculously powerful. There’s no way for the human z fighters or piccolo to win. As I said, Gero and 19 were killed when the saiyans went SSJ so 17 and 18 don’t wake up, cell instead would find the lab and absorb 17 and 18, considering 16 is a cyborg and off no use to him, cell either kills him or leaves him br
@@mysticangeldbyt gohans rigorous training also had trauma Involved as I said. Goku was pushing the fight with frieza, how gohan wasn’t strong enough and how cell would kill ‘em all if he didn’t transform, gohan has lived a very peaceful life this time around and had none of that trauma, it just doesn’t happen.
Great video like always, but i have a question. After trunks showed the Saiyans ssj wouldn’t they spend the 3 years training for ssj or wouldn’t trunks at least help the saiyans get ssj since trunks didn’t know about the multiple timelines and he believed he was truly saving his timeline.
the only way to get super saiyan would be through emotional trauma. Gohan couldnt unlock it by just knowing about it, neither could vegeta. So the only one I could see actually getting it would be bardock, but really I dont see that happening either because he was in a good state of mind, having his wife and family back AND killing frieza.
@@SaiyanMotion No. Nothing We Know About Super Saiyan Demands It To Awaken Through Trauma. We Know Its Helps But We Have Proof It's Not Necessary, E.g Super Saiyan 2. In The Time Skip Between The Cell And Buu Saga's Both Vegeta And Goku Got ssj 2 Purely Through Training With No Severe Enough Trauma Like Gohan Went Throught To Awaken It.
@@SaiyanMotion actually there are other way is focus ki on their back and burst or uh simple way is grabing all ki in spine and burst it to all body the spine is the important thing to carry whole body The ssj required rage at first but lately goku stay in ssj as much as longer like base in cell saga and that also explaining why he can use god ki with base and ssj only which is why ui + base or ui + ssj , ui + ssjg, ui + ssjb exist Goku actually a genius he also using kaioken with ssj but not ssj2 or ssj3 Because ssj2 is hatred and deep of mad which hard to make it comfortable as base and ssj
so the whole premise of the "you can't revive people that died over a year ago is fasle." It's actually "you can't revive this many people that were killed this long ago." There's too many people to revive...
nope. Misinterpretation of the scene where kami said that. What he actually said and meant was that you can't revive that AMOUNT of people that were killed however long ago. This wish makes sure to only bring back two people.
Cell bad ending? Ok... i actually like the idea somehow. But what happens next? Can Cell stop Babidi's Forces? Or rather... will he try to stop them? Will he succumb to Babidi's forhead M?
cell gave em 10 days originally but at that point he knew they were doing something to get stronger. This time around they literally have NOTHING to make them powerful aside from a fusion which wouldnt happen because there's no way for them to. So EVEN IF cell does give them time, they still die.
@SaiyanMotion but doesn't goku and vegeta have over a year left since you said only bardock trained for 2 years, meaning goku and vegeta could have gone in
Not true about the fact that he only revive one. If you go back to that scene, he is speaking about a large group of people, like all those killed by frieza for example. With this wish goku is reviving his family not his mother and then father, wording matters 🙂. And then your second point, at that point in the story they were actually STACKED on senzu beans. If you go to the manga during the king piccolo saga, karin has a whole like box full of them. And I HEAVILY, HEAVILY downplayed the zenkais. I only gave them a 33x boost from what could have been worth 100s
Your power levels for the saiyans are way too high. Full form frieza had a power level of 120,000,000. Bardock after all that training should have a power level around 100,000 tops
Clearly you don’t understand the scaling. Goku went from a power level of 8,000 all the way to 90,000 in 6 days when doing gravity training. My boost is a MASSIVE low ball. They trained for like 3 years
Goku and vegeta still have 1 year and half year to use the time chamber they went in for 6 months each but bardock trained them all for 6 months each which is 2 years so bardock won't be able to use it bardock should die by cell goku and vegeta should go back into the time chamber and be stronger and mastering super sayian piccolo should fuse will kami and go in with them since piccolo is near goku and vegeta before fusing he would be far above them after the fusing with kami this would give goku and vegeta zenkais making them stronger
@@AlphasDojo welll your concern is right, but you didnt hear me properly. I said something along the lines of, "they then trained with each other and completed their years." So like combinations, goku might have trained with vegeta and the others with each other.
well no.. because SSJ2 gohan didnt. It's all about timing, the supreme kai's didnt actually show up til babidi was on earth, babidi had been trying to revive buu for years before then.
At this point General might be able to restore a plant but not race this part of the story if you've been dead for more than a year he cannot resurrect
Vegeta getting ssj as nappa dies(could be that he became a good guy after all) but.. cell kills them as if gohan never existed.. Hhmm i was expecting a stronger gohan especially being Trained the saiyan way
the dragon Balls not Being able to bring people back from the dead who stay dead for year’s time at most would make a big difference in the story goku would also be alot stronger and Dr Gero would never survive goku would no that he is weak and he would most likely not revive his parents until he is sure that he is strong enough to protect them Gohan's death would also play a big part in this goku not hitting his head will also make him alot smarter because of bulma the reason goku initially did not learn was because he hit his head so any time he try's to learn something other that fighting his head would hurt to the point he would black out if he did not stop; he would also be with bulma because the only reason bulma did not marry goku was because he was dum and even then she still wanted to be with him the only reason she did not get with him was chi chi but this what what if would be different oulong would not be with them for 1. goku would either kill him or get rid of him by knocking him out and leaving same for yamsha because goku (would be stronger from training alot harder and he would just ramp it up alot more after Gohan's death back to what i was saying) would see them as weak; gohan would also be born alot earlier (with bulma if you did not no) either when they were in the desert where they meet yamsha or right as goku gets his growth spurt; again this would just fuel goku's drive to get stronger the gravity room would be made alot earlier also goku would no where his ship is and him and bulma would make it together (remember goku would be as smart or smarter than bulma saiyans *can adapt to anything* the other saiyans aren't as smart as bulma because they never tried to learn) with there first wish goku would wish on either how do i get stronger or the information of all the saiyan transformations(the dragon would tell him that he can't revive his parents because the earth's guardian is too weak for him to revive people that have died for over one year and if he could they would just die because planet is not there the but the planet know as namek can help you) he would then train to get SSJ and find a god so he can get god ki and get SSJG he would also get SSJ4 by combining SSJ and great ape: yea i think you get the point can you PLEASE redo this.
Cell kills them, conquers the galaxy and then years later Boo appears in his kid form, kills everybody, including kaioshin, so it kills Beerus and it is the end of the universe 7 :(
saiyans are naturally aggressive, this is why he was rowdy before he hit his head. he would also be extremely dangeroud and he would kill everyone he could.
This is a great what if but why vegeta and nappa got their design of dbz i mean VEGETA is like goku he is still a child and nappa still have hair I really like this video keep going !!
@@SaiyanMotion After Trunks arrives you downplay thr Saiyans and Piccolo a lot, ending the story prematurely. You didn't even cover the future timeline and show how that was different.
@@mysticangeldbyt i dont think the future needs to be explained lol. Without the training from the room, trunks would die. The androids as I mentioned in the story would be MUCH MORE powerful because of the fact that they have the data off the saiyans from the What If version of things, so they're just ridiculously strong. Think of it this way, in the original no one in their base was strong because gero had made him and 19 stronger then all of their base, but SSJ came as a shock, and they proceeded to lose. This time around, gero would make sure that they're stronger then the z fighters base, and then when they dont go super saiyan... they die.
@@SaiyanMotion yeah but there's a few issues with that explanation. if the future timeline is unchanged, wouldn't trunks be concerned with the group not knowing SSJ? Why would he not be concerned at all? And if the timeline is changed to fit the scenario, how the heck did Trunks survive the much more powerful androids without SSJ?
@@mysticangeldbyt I dont see trunks being concerned because how much more powerful they are. He's expecting the androids to be at the level that the ones his timeline has. We've already established in the main canon that trunks' timeline and our timeline are just different, so the timeline wouldnt be fitted for the scenario, it would be the same for trunks, ours is different because of the what if. Trunks is a constant.
Wait wint fruezs destroy planet vegeta again already since it has been 3 whole years in the first few days of planet vegeta being restord w ont frieza men tell frieza about it and wont he destroy it
@@SaiyanMotion also how will goku revive both bsrdock and gine together shenron can still revive people but if a group died more than a year he can only revive 1 person at a time
@@SaiyanMotion what i mean a group like 5 -10 they are a group and shenron can only revive 1 person at a time if they died more than a year even if its only 2 people its is still a group
@@SaiyanMotion And for the record, it didn't HAVE to end with Perfect Cell killing them! You didn't HAVE to have them train in the time chamber for Frieza. Coulda had them train at King Kai's and get Kaioken!
@@zacktennyson6255 uh no, just to respond. King Kai wouldn’t take 5 people to train especially those who weren’t dead. The time chamber training would be necessary to get to the power they require, it would make sense because bardock would use every resource he had. So when it comes down to it if we go by what I did, cell kills them. I don’t have to do anything, I coulda done things differently, this is just how I did it, so I guess deal with it?
@@SaiyanMotion Maybe not, but Gero and 19 were still killed, which means Trunks could have told them about 17 and 18, and they could have killed them before they activated.
@@SaiyanMotion Alright, you wanna have a realistic ending? How's THIS for realism? Before Dende upgraded the Dragon Balls, the Dragon Balls couldn't bring back people who's been dead for more than a year. So even if Shenron DID bring back Planet Vegeta, he wouldn't have been able to resurrect Bardock and Gine at the time that he did.
@Saiyan Motion you didn't say gohan died so there's still hope and you didn't day bulma or popo are dead so maybe they could use the namekian dragon dragon balls
b r u h highly edited this video is, took me 15 hours. It's just how I think the story will end, you dont have to agree, but I dont want people to think it's a cop out.
@@SaiyanMotion I meant the story, not the editing. I’m okay with less editing but more effort into story or same how you do it with 20 minute long videos and good editing but into more parts so still more story. Again the editing is great I’m not talking about that, I’m talking about the story since I literally play games without any audio and listen to what ifs
I mean.. this is just how I think it would go, you don't have to agree with me, but I can't think this is lazy because if I was actually lazy, I would have just had spike the devil man kill goku lmao.
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Just a question won't goku just kill evreyeone in the red ribbon army if he has the mind of a saiyan
In the original he killed everyone, Gero just scraped by so I don’t see the way changing
@@SaiyanMotion I don't think gero escaped I think he was in muscle tower that red building
@@AlphasDojo he wasnt
@@SaiyanMotion do u think he will turn evil when he not hit his head?
I think he will be pure heart kind like his dad
Like any saiyan there are bad and good
But vegeta radiz and universe 6 saiyan make goku chaging his mind and accepted the name "kakarot" in dbs broly movie last scene
And broly too
I like the ending HOWEVER a fully saiyan Kakarot would have liikely raze all of Red ribbon property. No androids here in that case
For the scaling, I dont know if Bardock would reach the billions in base. One thing to keep in mind is exactly HOW they train. Goku in canon for example, is a martial artist, meaning there's a much more spiritual component to his power. Vegeta on the other hand, does the same or similar training to Goku because he wanted to catch up to him and thats not even close to enough. Goku even states so himself, theres a line between training and just straight up torturing your body which I dont think Bardock would have the insight to know. Ki itself is composed of three separate energies; spirit, mental, and physical. Now, theoretically, the more ki you have, the stronger you should be if we go off what the guides tell us but it never tells us that these energies necessarily have to be at a perfect ratio in order to Utilize ki to become stronger. Thus Goku is able to focus on all three pillars of Ki rather than just one making him the superior fighter to Vegeta, atleast during Z and thats why I think Bardock wouldn't be at a Powerlevel of 1.5 billion.
Oh man I don't remember this series at all. So it was good rewatching this series again and finish it too now onto the next full series and finish. 👍 Yeah the problem here is Prefect Cell, and with no access to the Time Chamber is a problem. Although there is the idea of Future Trunks and Gohan going into the Time Chamber together for 2 years could be the differences in beating Cell. Anyways overall another good series, and looking forward to your next video soon.
Thanks for watching
Me watching the super bardock flashback: goddamnit toriyama!!!!!!!
Looked over the fact that Yajirobe was never introduced, so senzu beans would be in *more* of a surplus.
During the first training arc of this story I mean.
Hey Saiyan Motion, I’m a little confused. I thought the Dragon Balls at this time could only bring people back from the dead who stay dead for year’s time at most.
I think that what Kami implied in that scene was you can’t bring back that amount of people
@@SaiyanMotion didn't android bring back like 8 universes
@@stefanugaz Those were the Super Dragon Balls.
@@SaiyanMotion when you make what if pls know what you are doing because the dragon cannot bring back bardok and gine
@@thomasmagassouba518 Why couldn't Shenron revive them? He was able to revive Frieza who was dead for over a decade, why couldn't he revive Bardock and Gine? It's never been stated that he can't revive a single or two people dead more than a year. It was implied that you can't bring back a group of people dead over a year such as a city's worth of people. Saiyan Motion does know what he's talking about bro 😭
"Life is a game of choices". One tiny choice that is made can alter the future in unknown ways. I would love to see a series based off of Goku not hitting his head. I don't think Cell would win. I think Future Trunks would bring something back or knowledge that could help them. Maybe fusion?
Bardock and gine shouldn’t be revived since shenlong can only bring back people who died within 1 year
that's only for large groups of people
7:14 bro I am a dragon ball fan not a mathematician my brain is smoking
Edit: it seems you forgot the last sayan left… the universe’s last hope GINE
Lmao
I mean... the trauma of having her entire family wiped out in front of her would give her a BEEEFY rage boost, and since saiyan bodies are fueled by intense emotion, with her quite litterally seeing the last hope of her race wiped out in front of her... ssj2 or even 3 COULD be possible, not likely but plausible.
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The editing is superb and the effort the idea’s everything I want in dragon ball what if channel , great what if 👍🏽
thanks man!
@@SaiyanMotion your welcome 🙏 all ways a pleasure to watch your dragon ball what if’s 😀
I kind of figured kami would change the room of spirit and time because they might need it plus its not like they wouldnt want more of it
"he kills them" yes, perfect end
what about the roughly 3 year timeskip between Trunks showing off SSJ and the initial androids attack? Do you not think in that time the group would figure out SSJ?Do you not think that Trunks would stay behind specifically to teach SSJ to the saiyans after learning they don't have it? And do you not think Kami can upgrade the RoSaT? All those factors make the ending kind of a cop-out.
1. SSJ was unlocked through trauma for every single one of them. Goku through the death of his best friend, vegeta through not being able to surpass goku and gohan through the 4 times his neck had been broken. I don’t see a scenario in which they would learn SSJ just from knowing it exists this time around, it doesn’t make sense in my mind. As you saw they did end up unlocking it when said trauma was experienced.
2. Trunks didn’t stay originally to provide any help because goku proved he was stronger then him with a single finger. This time their base is almost too much for trunks, like PLENTY to beat him. He would just think they’re well off like he did normally, or even more so cuz they beat him in bass.
3. Kami didn’t upgrade the room originally, that was dende, so that just ain’t gonna happen at all.
@@SaiyanMotion 1. In the original series, Gohan unlocks SSJ through rigorous training in the RoSaT. I find it hard to believe that in 3 years of constant training, *none* of the much more powerful saiyans learned SSJ through feelings of inadequacy (like Vegeta) or just through pure training (like Gohan).
2. Actually this brings up a whole other host of questions about Trunks. Is the future timeline the same as in canon or adapted for this series? If it's the first option, then wouldn't Trunks want to stay back because of how different the timeline is to his original, or hell, even bring one of the Z-Fighters to the future to fight the androids, possibly even training in the RoSaT there? If it's the second, then how is Trunks weaker than Goku and still alive? Would the Androids not have been scaled up to a ridiculous amount there as well? If they are the same power as the normal timeline, how did any of the Z-Fighters (especially the Saiyans and Piccolo) die to them?
3. While a fair point that Dende removed the limit in the original, wasn't the limit on the room a superficial one made by Kami to limit the amount of training done? If so, then why couldn't he remove it? If it was an actual limit built into the machine, what's stopping Kami from using the DBs to remove the limit beforehand? Why wouldn't he do so in the dire circumstances of the Androids attack?
More points: Why are Krillin and the humans scaled so ridiculously low? Would they not also train in the RoSaT with gravity etc to gain similar power to the saiyans? Of course, 19 and 20 would still overpower them but not as easily realistically. Also if Piccolo from birth was training with the saiyans, how was he killed so easily? He was similar in power to 20 in the original, and even without Fusing with Nail he should be leagues above that power through training with the much more powerful Saiyans by now.
@@mysticangeldbyt I only wish to address the future trunks point right now. The future tru is timeline is a constant, is would be the same as normally because as we’ve established in the anime and manga, trunks’ timeline is straight up different. Think about it this way, the original trunks didn’t stay back for the three years, he came back, and realized the timeline was a mess and not the same, then he trained to beat cell, ended up succeeding with gohan and went back to beat his androids. Now we implement my version, trunks comes back, realizes the z fighters are very strong, goes back like he did normally, comes back, realizes the time line is a mess and different, Then dies to cell.
@@mysticangeldbyt and for your “more points.” Like originally the humans just become weaker in comparison to the saiyans. It’s just not possible for them to keep up and when you think about it piccolo wasn’t killed easily. As I said, these androids are fed the data and power off the z fighters in this story so they are ridiculously powerful. There’s no way for the human z fighters or piccolo to win. As I said, Gero and 19 were killed when the saiyans went SSJ so 17 and 18 don’t wake up, cell instead would find the lab and absorb 17 and 18, considering 16 is a cyborg and off no use to him, cell either kills him or leaves him br
@@mysticangeldbyt gohans rigorous training also had trauma Involved as I said. Goku was pushing the fight with frieza, how gohan wasn’t strong enough and how cell would kill ‘em all if he didn’t transform, gohan has lived a very peaceful life this time around and had none of that trauma, it just doesn’t happen.
If he didn't hit his head we wouldn't have super
clearly...!
Love this story
And it is going to be my birthday in 50 days so can you make a what if goten was goku brother on my birthday it is August 14
My birthday is 10 days before u
@@gyutarosucks6078 okay and
yes I hope he does kakarot
@@Jungle_Mafia vegeta
My birthdays in august too lol, happy early birthday
This what if had so much potential lmao
Great video like always, but i have a question. After trunks showed the Saiyans ssj wouldn’t they spend the 3 years training for ssj or wouldn’t trunks at least help the saiyans get ssj since trunks didn’t know about the multiple timelines and he believed he was truly saving his timeline.
the only way to get super saiyan would be through emotional trauma. Gohan couldnt unlock it by just knowing about it, neither could vegeta. So the only one I could see actually getting it would be bardock, but really I dont see that happening either because he was in a good state of mind, having his wife and family back AND killing frieza.
@@SaiyanMotion No. Nothing We Know About Super Saiyan Demands It To Awaken Through Trauma. We Know Its Helps But We Have Proof It's Not Necessary, E.g Super Saiyan 2. In The Time Skip Between The Cell And Buu Saga's Both Vegeta And Goku Got ssj 2 Purely Through Training With No Severe Enough Trauma Like Gohan Went Throught To Awaken It.
@@SaiyanMotion actually there are other way is focus ki on their back and burst or uh simple way is grabing all ki in spine and burst it to all body the spine is the important thing to carry whole body
The ssj required rage at first but lately goku stay in ssj as much as longer like base in cell saga and that also explaining why he can use god ki with base and ssj only which is why ui + base or ui + ssj , ui + ssjg, ui + ssjb exist
Goku actually a genius he also using kaioken with ssj but not ssj2 or ssj3
Because ssj2 is hatred and deep of mad which hard to make it comfortable as base and ssj
@@SaiyanMotion the Super anime changed this to the "tingly back" sensation. Another argument is that Saiyans produce more S cells at times of peace.
What if Goku never hit his head? he’d be Kakarot.
At this point shenron can't bring people back that have been dead longer than a year
How did Goku brough back his parents to live if dragon balls can only revive people who died within a year?
With the power boost with the training, not everyone has the same growth rate as Goku so that scaling is probably incredibly wrong and unrealistic
It was kinda dark. Wouldn't they wish back planet Vegeta and move back there and revive the remainder of the Saiyan race?
so the whole premise of the "you can't revive people that died over a year ago is fasle." It's actually "you can't revive this many people that were killed this long ago." There's too many people to revive...
Shenron could only revive people once, and that have only been dead within a year at this point in time.
nope. Misinterpretation of the scene where kami said that. What he actually said and meant was that you can't revive that AMOUNT of people that were killed however long ago. This wish makes sure to only bring back two people.
Because Masako... yep... can't argue with that.
That awkward moment when trunks comes back the 2nd time and just see’s cell 😂
quick side note.. he dies too lmfao
@@SaiyanMotion Dang killed twice by the same person 😂
Superb video mate. Now can you make what if super Buu turned good?
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed, and your what it is noted.
There is Broly but he would still be trapped on Vampa and wouldn't be there to fight cell...
please make what if goku had one for all give to him by his father(he got this similarly to future sight)
In the end everyone’s are dead😂 I don’t now why it’s funny
Is no one gonna Talk ab Goku heart virus he doesn’t have it cuz he didn’t go to planet hardrat so y did he say he’s heart virus kicks in ???
virus ain't from yardrat
Cell bad ending? Ok... i actually like the idea somehow. But what happens next? Can Cell stop Babidi's Forces? Or rather... will he try to stop them? Will he succumb to Babidi's forhead M?
What if super Buu turned good.
wouldn't cell spare them so he could have a better more enjoyable fight?
cell gave em 10 days originally but at that point he knew they were doing something to get stronger. This time around they literally have NOTHING to make them powerful aside from a fusion which wouldnt happen because there's no way for them to. So EVEN IF cell does give them time, they still die.
@@SaiyanMotion Alright I understand now, thanks for answering!
@SaiyanMotion but doesn't goku and vegeta have over a year left since you said only bardock trained for 2 years, meaning goku and vegeta could have gone in
SERIOUSLY
DID PLANET VEGETA NAMED HIM EARTH NAME!!!!!!
NOOOO.
THEY NAMED HIM KAKAROT.
WTF TROLL NAME DOESNT EXIST IN PLANET VEGETA.
SERIOUSLY STOP
Question how did Doctor Gero make the androids when you kill Him Off When goku and bardock killed the red ribbon army that makes no sense
isn’t cell about too shouldn’t he be the real threat
Rest in peace frieza
No set of dragon balls can save him
Lol no way he would just destroy the world because all low class saiyans even if they changed the lore
I go off the actual series not some bullshit movie n raditz states what he was sent for n it wasn't to save him
And shenron can only revive 1 person at a time if they died more than a year and there power level wont be billions because they dont have senzu beans
Not true about the fact that he only revive one. If you go back to that scene, he is speaking about a large group of people, like all those killed by frieza for example. With this wish goku is reviving his family not his mother and then father, wording matters 🙂. And then your second point, at that point in the story they were actually STACKED on senzu beans. If you go to the manga during the king piccolo saga, karin has a whole like box full of them. And I HEAVILY, HEAVILY downplayed the zenkais. I only gave them a 33x boost from what could have been worth 100s
I think if dende can upgrade the time chamber so why not kami 🤔🤔
gokus past memories doesnt affect his purity
Your power levels for the saiyans are way too high. Full form frieza had a power level of 120,000,000. Bardock after all that training should have a power level around 100,000 tops
Clearly you don’t understand the scaling. Goku went from a power level of 8,000 all the way to 90,000 in 6 days when doing gravity training. My boost is a MASSIVE low ball. They trained for like 3 years
Now I'm asking the question why did this not happen? 😭
he wouldve turned out like turles
wait but dont the android have to be active to be absorbed?
Bro wrote the story while smoking weed
popo could go to namek and revive everyone
Nice theory, but you should’ve made Nappa a TV Broadcaster in HollyWood 🤣 (DBZA reference)
Ayy it's realistic
If frieza trained for about a month he could beat that light work
IF
That's it that's how is ends
Terrible ending it flies in the face of the never say die theme of dragonball
Well it’s a what if
Goku and vegeta still have 1 year and half year to use the time chamber they went in for 6 months each but bardock trained them all for 6 months each which is 2 years so bardock won't be able to use it bardock should die by cell goku and vegeta should go back into the time chamber and be stronger and mastering super sayian piccolo should fuse will kami and go in with them since piccolo is near goku and vegeta before fusing he would be far above them after the fusing with kami this would give goku and vegeta zenkais making them stronger
Sorry I wasn't supposed to give an SA
@@AlphasDojo welll your concern is right, but you didnt hear me properly. I said something along the lines of, "they then trained with each other and completed their years." So like combinations, goku might have trained with vegeta and the others with each other.
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indeed
nahhh surely 3 saiyans gone super saiyan would be a power level of about 150billion and that would get the attention of bobiddi and the kais
well no.. because SSJ2 gohan didnt. It's all about timing, the supreme kai's didnt actually show up til babidi was on earth, babidi had been trying to revive buu for years before then.
At this point General might be able to restore a plant but not race this part of the story if you've been dead for more than a year he cannot resurrect
I love this reason 😭bc maskox it's true tho and best reason I've ever heard
Vegeta getting ssj as nappa dies(could be that he became a good guy after all) but.. cell kills them as if gohan never existed.. Hhmm i was expecting a stronger gohan especially being Trained the saiyan way
Good video
Can you please comtinue this , make someone super ssaiyan 2 😳 pls...
They’re dead -_-
@@SaiyanMotion oh come on you can change the story a little bit
No plot armor here to save them this time
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the dragon Balls not Being able to bring people back from the dead who stay dead for year’s time at most would make a big difference in the story goku would also be alot stronger and Dr Gero would never survive goku would no that he is weak and he would most likely not revive his parents until he is sure that he is strong enough to protect them Gohan's death would also play a big part in this goku not hitting his head will also make him alot smarter because of bulma the reason goku initially did not learn was because he hit his head so any time he try's to learn something other that fighting his head would hurt to the point he would black out if he did not stop; he would also be with bulma because the only reason bulma did not marry goku was because he was dum and even then she still wanted to be with him the only reason she did not get with him was chi chi but this what what if would be different oulong would not be with them for 1. goku would either kill him or get rid of him by knocking him out and leaving same for yamsha because goku (would be stronger from training alot harder and he would just ramp it up alot more after Gohan's death back to what i was saying) would see them as weak; gohan would also be born alot earlier (with bulma if you did not no) either when they were in the desert where they meet yamsha or right as goku gets his growth spurt; again this would just fuel goku's drive to get stronger the gravity room would be made alot earlier also goku would no where his ship is and him and bulma would make it together (remember goku would be as smart or smarter than bulma saiyans *can adapt to anything* the other saiyans aren't as smart as bulma because they never tried to learn) with there first wish goku would wish on either how do i get stronger or the information of all the saiyan transformations(the dragon would tell him that he can't revive his parents because the earth's guardian is too weak for him to revive people that have died for over one year and if he could they would just die because planet is not there the but the planet know as namek can help you) he would then train to get SSJ and find a god so he can get god ki and get SSJG he would also get SSJ4 by combining SSJ and great ape: yea i think you get the point can you PLEASE redo this.
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Cell kills them, conquers the galaxy and then years later Boo appears in his kid form, kills everybody, including kaioshin, so it kills Beerus and it is the end of the universe 7 :(
i like how he said "cell kills them yup"
saiyans are naturally aggressive, this is why he was rowdy before he hit his head. he would also be extremely dangeroud and he would kill everyone he could.
Goku is just rowdy before hitting his head. Yt would only be a matter of time before he can be tamed.
@@SaiyanMotion saiyans only obey those who are stronger, like frieza for example
So no part 2?
It’s a full story -_-
I like these
This is a great what if but why vegeta and nappa got their design of dbz i mean VEGETA is like goku he is still a child and nappa still have hair
I really like this video keep going !!
I don’t think Nappa would have hair at the time, it was just a educated time guess
Bruh
Disliked this one. The story started out great but could’ve been told and could’ve ended so much better
well I would like to take criticism so tell me why you didnt enjoy it. I can always improve and Im open to hearing about it.
@@SaiyanMotion After Trunks arrives you downplay thr Saiyans and Piccolo a lot, ending the story prematurely. You didn't even cover the future timeline and show how that was different.
@@mysticangeldbyt i dont think the future needs to be explained lol. Without the training from the room, trunks would die. The androids as I mentioned in the story would be MUCH MORE powerful because of the fact that they have the data off the saiyans from the What If version of things, so they're just ridiculously strong. Think of it this way, in the original no one in their base was strong because gero had made him and 19 stronger then all of their base, but SSJ came as a shock, and they proceeded to lose. This time around, gero would make sure that they're stronger then the z fighters base, and then when they dont go super saiyan... they die.
@@SaiyanMotion yeah but there's a few issues with that explanation. if the future timeline is unchanged, wouldn't trunks be concerned with the group not knowing SSJ? Why would he not be concerned at all? And if the timeline is changed to fit the scenario, how the heck did Trunks survive the much more powerful androids without SSJ?
@@mysticangeldbyt I dont see trunks being concerned because how much more powerful they are. He's expecting the androids to be at the level that the ones his timeline has. We've already established in the main canon that trunks' timeline and our timeline are just different, so the timeline wouldnt be fitted for the scenario, it would be the same for trunks, ours is different because of the what if. Trunks is a constant.
How tf is cell strong enough to kill goku bardock vageta Gohan and trunks?
Man forgot the dragon ballss
Cell: Ahaha
Hey, when we gone get the next one?
so piccolo is still the same somewhat the same and what about gokus friendship with krillin and tien etc
I certainly think it would be less because he'd spend less time. Maybe tien wouldnt even be part of the group
Wait wint fruezs destroy planet vegeta again already since it has been 3 whole years in the first few days of planet vegeta being restord w ont frieza men tell frieza about it and wont he destroy it
He could destroy it. But I decided to go with the he doesn’t find out because even though this story is pretty realistic, I had to make it work.
@@SaiyanMotion fair enough
@@SaiyanMotion also how will goku revive both bsrdock and gine together shenron can still revive people but if a group died more than a year he can only revive 1 person at a time
@@lazerbreaker4758 group of 2 -_-
Not millions
@@SaiyanMotion what i mean a group like 5 -10 they are a group and shenron can only revive 1 person at a time if they died more than a year even if its only 2 people its is still a group
I like it but the ending not so mush sooooo...WHAT THE FUU-
agreed
what the hell!
Cool
thx
Yes
😑 Thiers no more parts they dead😭
Yep.
I was not expecting it to end like that
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You skipped kinda a lot
I didn't rly skip anything..
not
That's alot of math
Oh yes
Go to hell for this awful scenario.
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@@SaiyanMotion And for the record, it didn't HAVE to end with Perfect Cell killing them! You didn't HAVE to have them train in the time chamber for Frieza. Coulda had them train at King Kai's and get Kaioken!
@@zacktennyson6255 uh no, just to respond. King Kai wouldn’t take 5 people to train especially those who weren’t dead. The time chamber training would be necessary to get to the power they require, it would make sense because bardock would use every resource he had. So when it comes down to it if we go by what I did, cell kills them. I don’t have to do anything, I coulda done things differently, this is just how I did it, so I guess deal with it?
@@SaiyanMotion Maybe not, but Gero and 19 were still killed, which means Trunks could have told them about 17 and 18, and they could have killed them before they activated.
@@SaiyanMotion Alright, you wanna have a realistic ending? How's THIS for realism?
Before Dende upgraded the Dragon Balls, the Dragon Balls couldn't bring back people who's been dead for more than a year. So even if Shenron DID bring back Planet Vegeta, he wouldn't have been able to resurrect Bardock and Gine at the time that he did.
nice
Thanks for watchin
Part 2 ?
this is a one off. The literally died where do I take it from here lol
@Saiyan Motion you didn't say gohan died so there's still hope and you didn't day bulma or popo are dead so maybe they could use the namekian dragon dragon balls
this is kinda lazy lol
b r u h
highly edited this video is, took me 15 hours. It's just how I think the story will end, you dont have to agree, but I dont want people to think it's a cop out.
@@SaiyanMotion I meant the story, not the editing. I’m okay with less editing but more effort into story or same how you do it with 20 minute long videos and good editing but into more parts so still more story. Again the editing is great I’m not talking about that, I’m talking about the story since I literally play games without any audio and listen to what ifs
I mean.. this is just how I think it would go, you don't have to agree with me, but I can't think this is lazy because if I was actually lazy, I would have just had spike the devil man kill goku lmao.
Early
Thanks for watching
@@SaiyanMotion thanks for posting amazing content
They woulda got ssj. Cell still majin buu still.
So how did cell absorb the androids if 19 and 20 were killed?