ProPride 3P Pros and Cons... It's Not Perfect But It's Pretty Darn Good
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Missed pros and cons:
Pros:
- Weight distribution can be adjusted independently of sway control. This is nice for tuning how your TV rides when your load changes, e.g. empty vs full freshwater tanks.
- The weight distribution bars stay attached to the main hitch head full time.
- You don't need to loosen bars to reverse or in rainy/icy conditions.
- Turning angle: you can turn the TV/TT at nearly 90 degrees to each other.
- You can open your tailgate while hitched up.
- No-drill installation (though you might need to drill if you have to move your propane tanks or breakaway switch).
Cons:
- Weight, though this isn't as bad as you might think because the added length offsets some of the tongue weight.
- Ground clearance due to the hitch head hanging off the trailer coupler and the weight distribution bars hanging below that. It's never been an issue when towing, but I've been in some sloped sites where I had to use levelers under my trailer tires because I couldn't lower the tongue as far as I needed to.
For 3600 dollars it should be be absolutely perfect because that’s insane. At 200 lbs it’s far to damn heavy. Money poorly spent for the other WDHs on the market. Nothing is easier than the B&W to hook up less than 1/3 the price. Some people have money to throw away.
I would definitely like to try this hitch but the cost is just too high... I would pay 2k for this hitch but not 3k+
I agree with you.
Have you ever done a comparison between the ProPride and Hensley Arrow? What are your thoughts?
I have not used the Arrow. I expect it would perform very similarly but hookup and initial setup may be easier with the ProPride. This is an assumption of course.
Thanks so much. I've seen ads for these and others mention them. We are building or overlander 20ft box van conversion camper for our documentary. Now we are finding out that we will most likely have to tow a trailer for promo gear and sponsor equipment. So really enjoyed how you listed the pros and cons. Thanks again 🤙👍💯💥
Good luck with the documentary!!
@@WanderingWeekends thanks
I use 2 circular level pucks. One on the hitch and one on the truck square. I also put a small piece of white tape in the center of both components to see better on the camera. When I get within a couple inches to I get out an adjust the hitch on the trailer to match the truck. Where the bubble is on the truck , I match the trailer. It doesn’t need to be level , just match the truck. Had this hitch for 8 years. Will never switch. I also have the orange yard attachment for really hard camp spots.
Great video. I watched many videos and bought a Hensley (same as ProPride basically). Pulls great, wind not a problem. Unhooking is a big problem. If either of the tow vehicle axles is not the same as the trailer it's very difficult to hook up. Works great on flat driveways and parking lots but not where the full length of the truck and trailer are not on a flat surface. We're older so maybe for young strong people that can muscle it around it is ok. For us only works on flat pull through campsites. Gonna sell it.
Perfect timing! I am ordering my ProPride tomorrow hopefully. I just need to call them and see if they can give input on offset hitching. Like in my driveway I have to level the camper about 4 inches on one side so the truck and camper are twisted when I hook up until I get it off the level blocks.
If you don't touch the jacks after unhitching you should be able to hitch back up without issue because the head will already be at the right angle for the stinger (hitch bar) to move in and out freely. To accommodate twisting you'll have to set the jacks at different heights to give the head a bit of side-to-side tilt to match your truck. That will make it a little fussier than just trying to match the front-to-back angle of the stinger, but since it's a place you park often once you figure it out you can just put in back in that configuration.
I still use my EZ Lift I bought 35 years ago , it works great , $3,600.00 is Way too much for me !
Definitely a bunch of dough!
I tow a 38’ and a 28’ trailer and never felt I needed something like this. Though I have nearly three decades pulling semi trailers with fuel, doubles and truck and pups.
I have been towing with the original creator, Hensley Arrow for 2 years and it does exactly as advertised.
We too...17 Seasons with our Airstream...SFSG
The extensions come with the Hensley
This is great Cory. Honestly, the first unbiased review I’ve seen on this hitch. Can’t wait for the hitch battle video!
Blessed to be in the position I’m in for these reviews. I don’t resent the prices since they were all freebies and I also don’t have the need to defend a purchase. Battle vid is coming together nicely.
These extended hitch's apply more load on the rear axle so there is another con although this is not only on this hitch.
How do you cope with off road or very undulating roads in your tests or are you only looking at highway driving. The reason is the extra load applied to the a frame through the undulations.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
I have the Andersen anti sway hitch on my semi off road van with a fully articulating ball coupling I overcome the issue by releasing the chains to their limit and I have drilled small holes in the end and I put in pins to prevent the nuts from coming off.
The weight. It weighs over 200lbs. That’s valuable tongue weight in terms of payload and hitch capacity.
Only about half of that weight ends up coming out of the tow vehicle's payload; the rest is (effectively) pushed back onto the trailer axles because the hitch head elongates the tongue by about a foot. Longer lever = more leverage / less weight. So while the 3P is definitely heavy, in terms of payload hit it's not as much heaver than other hitches as people think.
I have a propride.. and I like it, but the weight does not magically disappear, it is added onto your payload.
That is true……..but a 1 Ton does not care.
A 1 ton doesn't care either way. I think this hitch is well suited for all these 12 and 13k capable 1500s we have that aren't capable of weight distribution
@@xk302a agreed 100%
Thanks but I’ll stick with my Curt 4 point weight distribution. My tow vehicle: 2021 Silverado 2500HD, crew cab, 6.6L Duramax with Allison 10 speed. My trailer: Grand Design 2970RL. No issues at all except in extremely windy ( 45 mph plus ) cross winds. Just slow down per the conditions and all is well
For me, between the cost and lowering of ground clearance it’s a no go for me.
Hi there! I do agree with one of the comments below....when stuff goes south while towing, the $3000+ will not matter; it would have been well worth it. But, I think I can mitigate that with a medium capable hitch and good driving habits.
I definitely like the report of zero sway. We have had a few towing/bad sway experiences; they are scary! I get the impression that my biggest objection to this hitch would be that it doesn't appear to be "boondock" friendly when you have to put a 45 or 90 deg turn into the trailer to park and unhook/hook up.
Than k you very much for your review! Safe travels!
Regarding boondocking and uneven terrain - You can hitch at an angle if you need to, and the hitch head has some ability to tilt up and down. But, if you still can't nail it, they sell a "lot bar" that can be used with a regular ball in case you need to reposition the trailer to more level terrain to get the stinger in.
Actually the turn radius of the 3P is 87 degrees which is more than most and you don’t unhook or remove bars to turn that tight.
We have so much less porpoising with our 2800 than our last 28 footer. It will hit a bump and come up but level out. The 3P keeps it to a minimum. Noticed your yoke bracket has shifted to the left, one thing to look out for ☺️
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Thank you. My grandmother painted that in the mid-60’s. I never got to meet her but very happy to have her legacy seeping into our home.
We don't get porpoising with our Propride on 2800BH but we tow with a 2003 3/4 Ton Suburban. Perhaps our rear suspension or different wheelbase length makes a difference. I have noticed that if I play with the amount of WD it will affect how the vehicle reacts to going over dips and bumps. Maybe try and add or removed some WD and see if that helps.
Thanks for sharing your pros and cons. All are inline with my experience over the last 4 yrs / 12,000 miles with a couple of exceptions. First is around the build quality or more specifically the paint quality. Several components started to peel and rust along the edges after the first 6 months which was most likely due to not removing laser oxide before painting. More than disappointing with a $3K hutch. The second difference was on the porpoising. While I haven’t experienced it with my F350, my F150 did experience it but only when I had too much air in my rear airbags or not enough distribution force in the bars. Something you might experiment with if you still have a chance. Looking forward to your next video!
My jacks are zipped all the way up and my rig is sitting perfectly when hitched. I’m mostly happy but a small reduction in porpoising wouldn’t hurt my feelings.
I had porpoising on my first tow in my Ram 1500, but adjusted the jacks and that went away.
@@WanderingWeekends if you tip down your stinger a bit more, you can get more force out of the jacks if you’d like which may help. I run mine tipped down about 7/16” from the start of the larger taper back oto the end of the stinger. Much more than that though and it will be even more difficult to connect to the receiver on the trailer... just something to try if you are so inclined. If not - no worries! Looking forward to the next review!!
Very fair review I’d say.
Towing my 2800 with an Expedition EL and the ProPride and we don’t get any Porpoising either though I’ve seen others talk about it.
The big question is always is it worth the price. Let’s be honest the vast majority of people tow for years and never have an issue. But things do happen and when they do the ProPride can be the difference between driving away from it or being hung off a bridge by your safety chains.
Last year we got cut off by a kid in a WRX who jumped right in front of us and got on his brakes. My only option to avoid hitting him was to spike the brakes and dive into the left lane. That’s generally a pretty sure fire way to induce a major trailer sway event, a RUclips worthy sway event. But thanks to the ProPride our trailer stayed locked in behind us the entire time. In that moment which carried the very real chance of injuring my family and destroying our property the ProPride proved it was worth every penny I spent on it.
Really wish that the Camco Ezlift R3 & R6 were part of this competition.
Would have loved to include them but the folks who aren’t participating simply didn’t respond to our offer.
@@WanderingWeekends I completely understand. I did t think it was from your lack of willingness.
Could pro pride improve on design to help with porpoising?
They asked me to give my bars a bit less tension. Fixed it. I need to make an update video
If you have a relatively new (expensive) truck and a relatively new (expensive) TT, the cost of the 3P is immaterial.
… in your opinion…
Additional "pro"...you can open the tailgate when hitched.
To ease hitching...grind end of stinger to round edges a bit and make sure that the WD bars are loose.
It is expensive. But I think worth it... particularly if you are at top end of towing for your vehicle (like I am with a F150 and 2400bh).
Another Con. Try decending a grade and using the exhaust brake on your diesel truck. The trailer will pivot around the hitch and slam to one side or the other. It's called the "Hensley Bump". The only way to avoid the situation I described above is to use your trailer brakes to slow the descent in order to put tension on the hitch. This makes your exhaust brake pretty much useless. Also, do not downshift or you will encounter the same situation if you don't apply the trailer brakes at the same time.
A hitch that prevents sway is just that; doesn’t matter how big your truck is.
Doesn’t solve ones payload problem…
I wish I could say it takes out all swaying. I had Paris rv install mine. My 31 foot trailer is long and is probably really testing this hitch. I have had had issues. For some reason it is statins left of center when I’m pulling. Then it will sway back and forth but ray to left if center. I can figure out what’s going on. I’m going to call the owner of pro pride again and see if we can figure it out. It’s been a bit of a bummer so far
Gotta be something going on with the setup. Our trailer is longer than yours and the hitch completely eliminated ALL sway.
Maybe trailer axle issue?
Man, 3,600 bones for a bumper pull hitch is a lot of geetus!
You ain’t wrong
Great 6 hitch review. Thank you for that. What about this Anderson hitch on your amazon page? Any good?
It’s pretty darn good. I’d recommend on trailers under 30ft
Hi, Folks.
Unless I am seriously 'mistooken', I think I can see one 'con' right straight away at sight that would NOT help to convince me to buy one - it puts the load a LOT further back on the towing vehicle - which I suspect would also contribute to the 'porpoising' effect mentioned in the video. It would also give the trailed unit more leverage over the towing vehicle.
This factor would necessitate adjusting how the trailed unit is loaded to counter the extra distance behind the towing vehicle.
But what would I know????? I'm 'justa pore, dumm bulldozer op'rator' not a university 'egej-yew-mac-ated' trailer hitch design consulting engineer.
Just my 0.02.
You all have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
I get why ppl like the hitch. But for the price I just couldn’t pull the trigger. It would have to drive my truck for me, for 3K.
It’s definitely high 💵
People can say that about all sorts of things. Heck, even the brand TT someone gets.
I'm wondering about what you said regarding the frustrations of first time use with the ProPride and hitching up the trailer. As an experienced 'tow-er', do you think the frustrations could be unlearning how you've hitched in the past vs. how you hitch with the ProPride. As a soon to be first time "tow-er" AND ProPride user... do you think the same frustrations will be present?
Great question. I think it is the same learning curve for anyone. I’ve never used a stinger before so I was a newbie in that arena as well. It’s a quick learning experience but could come across as terribly frustrating especially considering you just spent $3000 or more. No issues now though.
It ain't rocket science...you just have to outsmart an inanimate object...taking your time will do the most for an easy lash-up. 👍 3p's ROCK. we use the HaHa.
I am looking at an outdoors RV 29 footer. They claim off road suspension...to me that means I might get away with a gravel road. What I am wondering is, does this hitch limit the vertical angle between trailer and truck more than others. Sure looks like it does.
After 3 years of running a propride hitch, I have to say this is bang on. It is more expensive but I believe worth every dime.
The hitching woes disappear after a bit of experience.
What price do you put on your families safety and the investment you have in your truck and trailer.
Very true… but more than one hitch I’ve tested had me feeling 100% safe.
@@WanderingWeekends
Well take a long distance trip across the USA and back then let me know if you feel the same about the less expensive options.
With all the hitches you tested, if money was no object, which hitch would you go with?
I’m on the fence for the 3p. The physics and research behind it are fantastic and I’ve heard fantastic things about it. I’d love to eliminate the sway I get. Any input into how much it adds of tongue weight to a trailer? I get that it’s literally “right at the tongue” but it has to distribute some weight to the rest of the trailer and not all 195# (give or take) solely to the tongue. Currently running an equalizer now, if you have any input as to how much more this would add, I’d appreciate it.
That’s a great question. I have ran both hitches. They can both distribute weight properly. Add 100lbs with the ProPride. That’s an educated guess though. I’m not nearly smart enough to give you an exact number. It would vary truck to truck anyway.
My opinion at 4000 dollars its time to either invest in a bigger truck 5th wheel or both.
I put Bilstein 5200 shocks on the rear of my truck, and this eliminated the porpoising. I love my Propride, even after the not quite straight on hookups. You do learn how to hook it up after a couple of times. and some trial and error.
I would say not only is it worth, but it's probably the most prudent and safest thing to do. People spend 60k to 80k or even more on the truck. Spend another 40k to 60k or more on the trailer, and then want to nickel and dime the hitch, which is what connects the two together. Doesn't make much sense.
I've wondered this, too. People complain that they can't afford a $3500 hitch, but they can afford $50K-$100K for a truck & trailer?
Did you find it difficult or frustrating to hitch on undeveloped sites?
I’ve had it at a few different angles but admittedly nothing severe. That may be an issue. I do feel it’s adjustable enough to deal with 99% of anything we will see. I wouldn’t recommend it for an off-roading rig.
@@WanderingWeekends Thanks for the info. I’m really on the fence about which hitch to buy. I’m more about the value than the price. Sometimes the highest price is the best long-run value. And, sometimes you can save money and get the ‘right’ product (you don’t need a cannon when a fly swat does the job). I am really looking forward to the hitch battle finale and your honest reviews!
That looks like a ridiculous contraption. The worst aspect is that the hitch ball is moved further rearward from the axle, exacerbating the front axle unloading geometry. I guess the sway control is pretty good with this and the Hensley, but overall, the Equal-I-zer looks like a far better hitch design. My 2¢
Hooking up is easy if you are good at sliding into hol…. Ha, it really is easy.
I had a pro pride when I towed with an F150. It did a wonderful job. You pretty much nailed it with this video.
Yes I think it’s great if you are towing at the top end of your trucks capability but no one should be doing that. The pro pride does not make your brakes, tires and suspension any stronger and adds a lot of weigh to your truck.
I now have an F350 not and I use a much simpler and easier to use eaz lift recurve hitch. I have almost no sway issues but to be honest I think the heavier truck has a lot to do with that.
Well done once again!
Your porpassing may be from having the jacks up too high. Try letting them down about a 1/2 inch at a time. There is such thing as to much weight distribution and its just as bad as none.
At $3000 bucks there should be zero cons.. smh
I agree 💯
I know you said you talked to Brent, but your yoke bracket is not center, about 1:22 in you can see that.
Good catch! It won't sway (assuming the bracket isn't loose) but it won't track centered.
*Seriously Man, the only hitch that eliminates 100% sway? You must be getting a huge kickback to keep the Hensley Arrow off your channel. I looked through of all you hitch videos and see nothing about the Hensley Arrow which is what this one looks like accept for the color and the price. I didn't pay anywhere near that price and the only extensions I needed was for the chains.*
I have reached out to Hensley more than once. I’ve been completely ignored. They will not even respond with a “no thanks”. I don’t even use the ProPride shown in this video anymore.
Have a nice day.
It porpoises like a dolphin? It doesn't porpoise like a porpoise?
Yep… but most folks know dolphin… and you know that too… thanks for the troll comment 👍🏻
@@WanderingWeekends Hey man. Just making a silly joke. No trolling intended.
no, its not worth the price tag.
Have you used one?
@@WanderingWeekends no, and i wont, they are way over priced. my reese pro hitch does just fine. i'm not pulling a large camper any more..so no need for a 3600 dollar hitch, not when i 400 dollar hitch can do the same thing.
@@alanshaw4655 obviously it's your money and you spend it how you'd like... but to tell others something you've never used is not worth the price tag... well you see where I'm going. Enjoy the Reece... I'm sure it serves you fine.
@@WanderingWeekends that's the beauty of free speech, i'm all for it. you are correct..it is my money, and yes..i love my reese hitch, it will do everything that high dollar hitch will do at a 1/8 of the price. if you want to pitch high dollar products ?.. more power to ya !. this is america, we have freedom of choice...freedom of speech, more power to you sir !. but i'll say it again..IT'S NOT WORTH THE PRICE THEY ARE ASKING !. some of us do not have deep pockets ?, but to each their own...right ?. enjoy that 3K dollar hunk of metal, i'll stick with my 400 dollar reese hitch.
@@alanshaw4655 you're making a whole bunch of assumptions... My Grandmother had an ole saying about assuming... I appreciate your comments. They always help the channel.