another thing, to all those who say same old heroes and PL unbalanced, its the same old heroes cos its the metagame now, and PL is not unbalanced, it depends on the player, and seeing Loda as a legend in the scene since around 2006, he just really knws how to play PL
Nah, you're ignoring the fact that this PL pretty much had free farm the entire game (mainly due to Na'vi not successful at ganking him and Loda being smart in moving around the map). PL is just like Medusa/Spectre have tremendous power late game. The main difference is that PL has an ability that makes ganking him slightly harder. To top this off, AGI heroes > STR heroes late game. That's how it's always been in DoTa. Wasn't expecting Na'vi's lineup to hold up late game with their picks.
Very nice game, and really don't understand those people who say that Dendi went for Dmg-dealer bulid and it was wrong. But about those 2 RPs in mid-game I agree. As Tobi said - misplay. It happens.
Split shot reduces damage output to the real PL by 30% also diffusial will eat through her mana shield while PL has got sick base dmg on high levels. When she casts her ulti he will just create new illusions. I don't think this is as easy as you think it is.
PL did get out of control. Though I still think PL would not have won this game. It's the constant pressure and split push as well as the massive farming from nature's prophet that allowed PL to get out of control in the first place. When Na'vi failed to defend their top rax this was pretty much it. You can only hold up so long against 1 lane of mega creeps + 2 crazy split pushing heroes.
honestly, a lotta negative comments at NaVi, bt if u knw anytg at all, it was Loda finally playing safe and AdmiralBulldog once agn playing well that they could take it
PL doesnt really need nerfing. Just win the game before it goes an hour long. Medusa and Spectre are just as bad in super late games. The difference is that PL has a means to survive the laning phase easier than other super late hard carries
I dont see anything wrong with constant Rubick picks. Rubick is amazing in team fights, if you dont pick it, your opponent probably would. Naix on the other hand.....
PL is strong, is broken, the fact that navi lost the first game with pl it doesnt matters to say that pl is broken...if you say he is not a broken hero, you know nothing...
Saying that something is OP in pubs doesn't mean it's OP in competitive play. I'd focus much more on wise 'global presence' play by nth here. It's pretty abusive since main counter to globals is not in Dota2 yet (Pitlord).
Anyone else sick of seeing Magnus, Naix, KotL, PL every game? between them and heroes like Nyx i really want the next big patch to do something about it. (although i love playing naix, even pre-buff)
Navi doesn'T know how to stay patient and do deff. You cannot win with atacking all the time. That is the reason why people love dota 2 so much. Everytime you should think and decide what go gonna do to win the game.
another thing, to all those who say same old heroes and PL unbalanced, its the same old heroes cos its the metagame now, and PL is not unbalanced, it depends on the player, and seeing Loda as a legend in the scene since around 2006, he just really knws how to play PL
Nah, you're ignoring the fact that this PL pretty much had free farm the entire game (mainly due to Na'vi not successful at ganking him and Loda being smart in moving around the map). PL is just like Medusa/Spectre have tremendous power late game. The main difference is that PL has an ability that makes ganking him slightly harder. To top this off, AGI heroes > STR heroes late game. That's how it's always been in DoTa. Wasn't expecting Na'vi's lineup to hold up late game with their picks.
Draft Start: 0:00:23
Game Start: 0:05:04
Pause till: 0:06:35
Tobi 'whahaha' laugh: 0:10:20
Very nice game, and really don't understand those people who say that Dendi went for Dmg-dealer bulid and it was wrong. But about those 2 RPs in mid-game I agree. As Tobi said - misplay. It happens.
47:05
HOLY SHYTE- You're the best Tobi
Draft: 0:00:22
Start (after pause): 0:06:35
Guys it was not really a PL win, It was definitely a Prophet win + team play OFC
nice game enjoyed it very much thx for the upload
00:23 draft
06:35 game start
cant believe anyone did this before
Split shot reduces damage output to the real PL by 30% also diffusial will eat through her mana shield while PL has got sick base dmg on high levels. When she casts her ulti he will just create new illusions.
I don't think this is as easy as you think it is.
All depends on the picks of the team. PL had disables supports and tp of nature. babysitting level 2000.
basically 150 lasthit was tombstone zombies :D. However youre true, nice work from Loda and whole NTH aswell
PL did get out of control. Though I still think PL would not have won this game. It's the constant pressure and split push as well as the massive farming from nature's prophet that allowed PL to get out of control in the first place.
When Na'vi failed to defend their top rax this was pretty much it. You can only hold up so long against 1 lane of mega creeps + 2 crazy split pushing heroes.
both in game 2 and 3, the nature's prophets did a great job :D
47:03 The best moment of the game.
honestly, a lotta negative comments at NaVi, bt if u knw anytg at all, it was Loda finally playing safe and AdmiralBulldog once agn playing well that they could take it
This is high pace game, seems funn1k and kuroky not fuction at all. Great play by nth.
PL doesnt really need nerfing. Just win the game before it goes an hour long. Medusa and Spectre are just as bad in super late games. The difference is that PL has a means to survive the laning phase easier than other super late hard carries
It's alright, Dendi. We still love you.
FIrst game? NAvi actually had a pl and got outplayed hugely!
Epic Game, really Impressed Prophet by nth.AdmiralBulldog!
10:23 DAMN YOU KOTL!
I had just eaten and I was starting to fall asleep. Then all of the sudden, 47:10 tobi: HOLY SCHISTE that woke me up haha
Dendi using the old school build on mag
Favorite part- 1:01:41 ... AdmiralBulldog just to strong
Where is ''that guy'' that always show the draft and the start??
"Stop complaining about the PL picks
1st game Navi goes PL+Kotl and they lose pretty hard"
How farmed was Pa that she couldn't kill pl with 4 heroes behind her back. Pls sent me the link to such video
miss the lightofheaven enigma and ars art too
dat was the best team of navi
if those three missed RPs had hit something, I think we'd be looking at a different game.
I dont see anything wrong with constant Rubick picks. Rubick is amazing in team fights, if you dont pick it, your opponent probably would. Naix on the other hand.....
start game 06:33
Well after watching KP's Magnus' ridiculous RP's yesterday Dendi was a letdown
i think the reason same heroes are being picked over and over is because the pick and banning phase. It need to be change somehow imo.
you see pl then u see then duration of the video and you its notidehunter game!
Dendi blowing RP as usual
If you watched Game 1 you would've realized that No Tidehunter won against a kotl+pl combo . . . Derp.
36:00 teamfight...
What the hell happened to BOTH of the teams?
It's not fail RP.. it's better reactions from NOTIDE..
PL is strong, is broken, the fact that navi lost the first game with pl it doesnt matters to say that pl is broken...if you say he is not a broken hero, you know nothing...
10:42 Out Of RanGe of TowEr?!?! he went invi so the tower hit missed :P
Hey Guys Look Toby Did His Hair Nice And Pretty FOR US!..........
12:38 GOLD ROSHAN
You forgot the "HOLLLYYY SHHYTTEEEE!!"
I cant wait for TI3 :D
best sentence " I expect that from kunkka not mag!"
no tidehunter , Old name of Alliance C:
36:23 great play by Dendi! The positioning of that RP is so fucking imbalance. Thats why Dendi is the best solo mid player in the world
Saying that something is OP in pubs doesn't mean it's OP in competitive play. I'd focus much more on wise 'global presence' play by nth here. It's pretty abusive since main counter to globals is not in Dota2 yet (Pitlord).
who owns that courier?
funn1k can change roles with kuroky..i think that would be better..
RP ?
Dendi's cleave is not put to use this game. good idea tho. PL got out of control and NAix is single target carry.
Na'vi fucked up halfway through. They had the upper hand.
really great game
"when all other carry have < 50% ..." sure..
was really expecting Na'vi to bounce back .. :(
I feel like navi is trying to copy IG line up, after g-league grand final ig vs lgd int. Magnus- cancer lancer -- some time bonus a carry like lycan
i dont understand why these guys like armlet so much but decide to go mask of madness over armlet when armlet is actually the better item with empower
Tobi: HOLY SHAYYTTTT (realized he said shit) Oh no sorry Dendi Triple Kill. xD
because they are easily countered
pl every game >.> that hero is freaking OP late game
Why are these op insta win heroes never banned out
Magnus..Magnus everywhere
amazing game.
the magnus ultimate
amazing!
Wow bulldog had a good game
pl can't actually kill a farmed phanthom assasin alone
NEVER.NEVER.NEVER do not let the other team pick PL.NEVER i say NEVER
Ever heard of Sven? Guy who crits for about 2500 with Daedalus and has 65% cleave?
MVP Centaur Conquerer
dendi wasn't serious
lol that tobi's laugh
Anyone else sick of seeing Magnus, Naix, KotL, PL every game? between them and heroes like Nyx i really want the next big patch to do something about it. (although i love playing naix, even pre-buff)
cant change what works =D
60%?? really? i see only 54%
Phantom Lancer
54.54%
5,153,118
patch 6.77
~54% this month
professional teams their selves didnt have a problem with pl, would've banned if they had a problem.
i expect that from kunka not from magnus?!!?! R u KiddinG me -_-
HOLY SHY!
nth played fantastic, that's all )))
BEASTMASTER + PL = GG
admiral bulldog is the MVP here
honestly. Please fire Tobiwan
U can counter PL by medusa ulti
Stop complaining about the PL picks
1st game Navi goes PL+Kotl and they lose pretty hard :/
or just great work by Nature's Prophet?
This build is so so normal in pub game xD
Just saying
dendi worst RPS on this game, while PL wasn't shutdown with 6-0-10 and 690 last hits ^_^
watch game 1, see Navi pick PL+KOTL and lose
Centaur Conqueror MVP!
Navi doesn'T know how to stay patient and do deff. You cannot win with atacking all the time. That is the reason why people love dota 2 so much. Everytime you should think and decide what go gonna do to win the game.
i think it's holy strike =))
47:07
level 100 with 2 wins here or what?
Navi had him and still lost the first game
HOLY SHAYT!!!
Lol, 15% bonus ms and some illus? :D "PL can just escape easily."
Compare to a morph, naix, spectre, weaver...
0:47:15
you're welcome.
HOLY SHOIIIT? :D