Star Trek Beyond Retrospective/Review - Star Trek Retrospective, Part 18
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- Star Trek Retrospective, Part 18: Star Trek (2009) was a triumphant success for the Star Trek franchise, but its sequel, Star Trek Into Darkness, wasn't the Dark Knight level hit Paramount may have hoped for. The third film in the Kelvin Timeline series, Star Trek Beyond, would prove even more of a mixed bag.
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00:00 Intro
00:41 Development
06:01 The Passing of Leonard Nimoy
08:40 Production
13:11 The Death of Anton Yelchin
15:24 Star Trek Beyond
21:39 Release and Reception
24:17 Modern Star Trek Shows
27:01 Signing Off/Outro
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@Rowan j Coleman, I can't wait for your further retrospectives. This series had me hooked from the start. Defenitly looking forward to Stargate, Babylon 5 and Superman(Hopefully from the Fleischer cartoons to the current show). Keep up the spectacular work my good sir!
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Will my (nick)name be gilded in 'Spacedock Gold'? :-D :-D
I am genuinely going to miss these well written and presented retrospectives. Thank you, Rowan, for all the hard work you’ve very obviously put into these.
At the very end he said he's doing loads more.
This.
@@zenzombie72 thanks man. I did hear. I’m talking bout the trek ones.
@@1978rharris
He has 700 hours of ST movies/series , enough for a lifetime of reviews ....
They're making ST 4 with the same crew so he has at least one more.
I haven’t always agreed with you Rowan, but this entire series has been amazing. Congratulations.
I too don’t always agree with him, but do truly enjoy this series as well.
Hear hear
This being the last Retrospective was emotional enough, but the section to Leonard Nimoy really pushed me over the edge.
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Uglycrying for Anton Yelchin.
I can stop being angry at Jeep for Anton. As well as for all the other victims they allowed to die or be hurt due to the fact they didn't want to pull multiton machines for the almighty dollar. Makes me so angry; so needless.
Be at peace, victims😔✊
These retrospectives have been a lot of fun. As someone who has never been much in Star Trek I have learned a lot and now have a better understanding of Star Trek.
I have a sister who is deeply into star trek and I never really got into it until the first Chris pine star trek movie. Having watched this series I can understand why she loves Star trek (even if I still don't understand the multiple coffee cups and various other bits of star trek stuff she has in her home 😂)
This was the last Star Trek film I saw with my Mum. She had seen every film with me since the The Motion Potion Picture. She died last year and I will go and see the next one in memory of my Mum. The oldest Trekkie in town. Thank you Mum 🖖🏻
Agreed. Never really seen the old series or movies but have a much better impression of it now. Definetly going to see DS9.
@@ilpostenyeh may anton yelchin abd lenord Nimoy both rst inpeace RIP to both of them anton never got th chsnce st becoming big stsrvlik he was destined to be just lik desth ledger
Even though I didn’t discover this series until towards the end of it’s run, I must say I’ve had a great time with it. For what it’s worth, I now know a lot more about Star Trek than I did before!
This has been THE BEST series I've ever seen about Star Trek. The amount of information contained is mindbogling and your research and presentation is simply outstanding. Thank you for all the work you have done to bring this to us. Can't wait to see your retrospective on Picard when it's ready
Over a year ago I was in a rutt. I had transferred to a new college, it was still online because of Covid restrictions, and the assignments were long and monotonous that it felt like I wasn't evolving in my knowledge of art and crafting new ideas. During this time, there was a day where I had 4 hours of nothing to do but homework and it was dead silent. So I searched up Oliver Harper Review Retrospective on RUclips, as his videos had helped me kill time in High School by learning cool facts about films I love. But then I found your first reviews on Star Trek, you were only up to Part 5 and I marathoned what you had in two days. I would watch every new uploads on the series , and even some of your other stuff. I learned about how Star Trek impacted culture outside of an American lens and how Star Trek is more than just fighting aliens and slow pacing. And with this final video, of you speaking on the first Star Trek film I saw in theaters as a teen, it felt like I had gone full circle. Between late 2020-2022, I went through so many changes, and your videos evolved in a way I loved, that I feel like I am not the same person when I first saw your videos. My college life has been more enjoyable and many personal stuff in my life have improved. I can't say you were the key helper of my life, but you were one of the many building blocks. *So thank you Rowan J Coleman, God bless, God Speed, Live Long, and Prosper*
I’m genuinely sad this series has come to an end but I’m eagerly awaiting your next. Thanks so much for these man, they’ve been a real joy.
Two things about this movie. One, I hosted the premiere/preview here in Houston a week before it's release. It's my little piece of being a part of Star Trek history. It was a huge honor. Secondly, I have the misfortune of being the one who inadvertently told Walter Koenig about Anton Yelchin's passing. He was here in Houston for a comic convention and while me and my wife were at his panel earlier that day we read that Anton had passed away. Later that evening before he left the convention I was one of the last few guests who got to meet him. I had assumed that at this point he had definitely found out about it but when I told him how sorry I was and gave him my condolences on the news about Anton he asked me what news. And without thinking I just blurted out about him passing away earlier today. His handler for the event look at me like you stupid mother fucker. Apparently they didn't want to tell him while he was there and had asked other people not to mention anything because they wanted him to enjoy his time. But by the time I got to his line there was no one there so no one stopped me and told me. To this day it kills me when I remember the look on his face. He immediately realized what had happened and saw how upset I was at what I had done and as a sure sign of how awesome he is He hugged me and told me that it was okay. We talked for another 20 minutes before they finally made us stop.
"We talked for another 20 minutes before they finally made us stop"
EXACTLY what os wrong with Hollywood today. Erasing humans and only concerned about being safe.....FOR PROFIT.
Fun fact - for years Leonard Nimoy's voice narrated over the opening sequence in the Mugar Omni Theater at the Boston Museum of Science. It's one of my fond childhood memories and it makes me sad they no longer use that opening sequence. But the fact that he was a Massachusetts native (as did I) is one of those little coincidences that I love.
I glad i was abele to see the retrospective of Star Trek, an eight-teen video journey and it was amazing. Nice work, Rowan.
Of these three Kelvin movies, this is the one that feels the most like the original series
Just character interaction and dialogue alone made it feel like I was watching some Lost episode of TOS
I think people who were overall turned off by the Kelvin reboots, will sadly under look this one even though it's one of the best trek flicks
Maybe I was comparing it too much to the originals. Plus I really hate anything JJA touches. It was like he was pissing on my childhood.
@@alfiourso4587 I can get that
That's about how I felt about Star Wars 9 lol
@@adamdavis1737 I don’t think I can ever forgive JJA for the travesty of the sequels.
Beyond definitely had good TOS vibes to it. The interaction between Spock and McCoy was a big plus.
@@alfiourso4587 yeah that's what I liked best about it for sure
Beyond is certainly the best of the three Kelvin movies so far - and had the worst advertising campaign by a huge margin. Into Darkness got me HYPED despite not liking the first movie because it had such a good trailer.
And *this* is the point where the Star Trek franchise hit a wall. 😄 Rihanna's song couldn't have been more prophetic.
U.F.O. is a great series to watch! My father introduced me to it when i was ten.
Star Trek Beyond is fun and quintessential "Star Trek". I hope Alex Kurtzman watches it and sobs seeing how far from the heart of Star Trek he has taken the franchise.
I don’t think he is doing any sobbing considering the success the new shows enjoy. I also don’t think he has taken the heart from the franchise (at least not any more or less than the 2009 film series). Don’t get me wrong the new shows aren’t perfect and I particularly dislike what we saw on the planet „Vergessen“, but other than that, Star Trek is in pretty good hands right now and I have enjoyed most of what hast come out these past five years more and more.
@D.A.R So exactly like Gene Roddenberry in the 80s?
@@fgdj2000 Picard is a sin against all Star Trek. Discovery is a masterpiece compared to Picard
@@SombraCheeks Haha, then go on a crusade and restore the sanctity of Gene Roddenberry's creation! And after DIS gave me "Species 10C", one of my favorite episodes in all of Star Trek, I kind of agree.
@D.A.R Funny how successful new Trek is supposed to be when there are no ratings available to fact check that claim.
Every time he makes one of these I am reminded that our heroes are people and this can happen almost anywhere.
Of all the TV and movie personalities I have known, I only shed tears for Leonard Nimoy. He did live long and he did prosper.
Loved these retrospectives. Can't wait for your take on the new Star Trek TV series. Thank you.
As someone who has loved Trek from a very young age watching these videos and learning so much about the different movies and series I never knew has been so much fun and so informative! I found TNG retrospective and immediately went back and watched everything up until then and EAGERLY waited for each new one you released. Thank you for taking the time to make these. I can’t wait for you next series of videos!
Best of the Kelvin Timeline. Star Trek Beyond is just loads of fun, the cast all seem effortlessly in the zone by this point with fantastic chemistry, the film is GORGEOUS, and the score is great. Easily the one I go back to the most from the Kelvin films.
Took a friend to see this who had not watched TOS when it first aired because it had been took too scary at the time (it had been scary for me too, but didn't stop the pre-schooler I was from coming back for more), and she really enjoyed it. One that non-Trekkies should watch.
Out of the Kelvin timeline films, Beyond seems the most ‘Trekkie’ of the films. In spite of there being another doomsday weapon mcguffin, that deconstruction of what the Federation means just struck me as the kind of story that Star Trek is supposed to tell.
Thank you for these detailed and thoughtful retrospectives. I hope it won’t be long before we can get more Star Trek analysis.
Nicholas Meyer reiterated in his director's commentary for Star Trek 6, "Art thrives on restrictions." He shrouded sets in shadow and used creative lighting to hide that he had no budget to dress them. Jump to Star Trek Beyond: "It's 50 years of Trek, so we made 50 different new aliens." Did this improve the film? No wonder hollywood rarely turns a profit.
Well said. TMP made similar mistakes. The robe of the Betelgeusian glimpsed from a far when Kirk lands at Starfleet Command was said to cost 1 Million dollars. And the alien designs we see for the background characters at Yorktown in Beyond most likely added unnecessary cost to the budget.
@@BronzeAgeBryon I have to agree. That many different aliens would have looked natural in a space port in Tattooine. Trek isn't Star Wars though. As for why the third movie underperformed, new trek has resulted in a divided fan base. That some "diehard" fans are staying home shouldn't come as a surprise.
@@adamb503 The new properties don't resemble Star Trek, to me. They're dressed up like Star Trek, but they're not of the same genre. Star Trek explored a similar space to Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. It was about deep ideas and sometimes twisting your mind into a temporal pretzel. The script writers clearly read a lot of science fiction. The core identity of the show was remarkably consistent over five different series (not all great) but it stopped being about ideas almost entirely. Now it's about feelings, sitting around kvetching about romantic uneasiness, and round-house kicking stunt actors over railings then shouting, "Booya! Science shit yeah!" Nothing like sitting down for some cerebral Star Trek and getting a two for one instead: "Honey. I want to talk about our relationship..." Immediately followed by a kick to the balls. "BOOYA!"
@@Clone42 Also, how are you a Star Trek fan if your impulse in coming up with a script is to be "deconstructive"?
This has been an exceptional series of videos, a series which I will very much be going back to you - and which I have recommended to a lot of people. They've been so good, I almost wish Discovery, Picard and SNW were already over, just so I can sit back and enjoy THEIR retrospectives. Sterling work, Rowan. Genuinely looking forward to seeing what you have to say about Battlestar Galactica and Blake's 7.
took me 3 days, but man, that's was a great ride to complete watching this retrospective. Congratulations for the grat work you have put on this!
It's not over yet I will be waiting for the on going shows retrospectives with passion .
Utterly fantastic. One huge neverending documentary, thank you 😁
Great video! Gives me upbeat feeling in this dark times.
I also forgot that this was going to be your last retrospective on trek.
It is indeed what brought me to your channel and kept me around. I hope that my interests align with yours in a way that keeps me active on your channel. I will be checking out your gaming channel in the mean time and i appreciate the work and passion youve given to this series. As a trek fan it means the world.
Probably the most underrated Star Trek film IMO. I really enjoyed this one and of the three Kelvin timeline films, this one felt closest to the spirit of the original series.
Of all your reviews, this one was the most emotional. Well done.
Beyond is mediocre and a MCU knock off. Into Darkness is much better. Jaylah is cool though.
I'd love to see a full season review from you on the new shows
You have done a fantastic job here and should be so very, very proud of your work. It has given me a significantly better framework for consuming media. Thank you so much!
This is the best TREK series I've yet seen on youtube bar none. Thanks so much for creating them. Well done.
This was a bittersweet episode to watch, and I will miss this series a lot. It has consistently presented balanced perspectives and high quality content to a level that is truly rare. I can't wait to see what other retrospectives that you do, and am genuinely excited for a Battlestar Galactica retrospective which I hope is near the top of the list. Best of luck with your future endeavours Rowan and can't wait to see what you come up with next!
I've enjoyed all 18 of your retrospective videos. I love your work. Although sad that you are at the end of the Star Trek series but I'm excited for your upcoming Babylon 5 retrospective video.
Awesome video as usual! I definitely need to see this movie some time!
Also, is that a Unas from SG-1 at 10:12 ?!
Thanks for the vid! Beyond was pretty entertaining and solid, IMO. That is much more impressive given the production troubles you brought to light in this vid.
You did some amazing work with these retrospectives. Bravo man and thanks for the fun.
Star Trek Beyond is the only new Star Trek movie I've wanted to watch more than once.
The Ken Burns of Star Trek
Well done sir I look forward to your next series whatever it may be
Sad to see the last one but looking forward to your next series. Keep up the good work!
Love to see you do Retrospective Series on Space 1999. Your hard work is much appreciated. 🍸 to you!
wellllll.....I'm thanking YOU for making that series...massively enjoyed !! And also, after what you announced what's next, well, whoah.....looking forward to ALL documentaries...
Just finished all 18 parts. Congratulations on such an incredible accomplishment!! I’m subscribed so I’ll be sure to catch up on some of your other videos too.
Another fantastic video. Sad it’s come to an end for now but very thankful for these retrospectives.
I have really enjoyed this series of retrospectives. Watched it through twice now. Stunning work 👍👍
Thank you very much for all the retrospectives. Marvelous work, I will miss them :)
Thanks for this series of videos. Truly great stuff!
You really put this retrospect to heart its Oscar earth well done truly enjoyed
This retrospective series is so good, it's almost heartbreaking to watch the last episode.
Great job. Perfection.
This is what RUclips is supposed to be. ;)
As a oong time Star Trek fan, I've absolutely loved this series and I can't wait to check out your other work!
Thanks for another great review! And big thanks for doing another Leonard Nimoy shoutout. Got goosebumbs during that!
Red Dwarf retrospective sounds incredible! The rest do too of course but that one caught my eye.
Really enjoyed this series of videos. Great work thanks!!
THANK YOU! For Making this series. Incredibly dense & detailed, & truly entertaining.
Thank you so much for all the hard work you did on this series!!
So cool! Can’t wait for the Stargate retrospectives!!!
I've loved the entire retrospective and it's inspired me and my brother to go back and rewatch tons of old star trek. It usually takes us more than double the running time to watch each video because we pause so frequently to discuss what you say. You've led to endless fun discussions. Just great job across the board. Thank you.
And we're really looking forward to Babylon 5!
I thought I was having a normal morning and then that newspaper came up with the news of Nimoy's death and I burst into tears. I don't think I even cried this much when it happened, what in the world. Thank you, though. Probably tears that needed crying.
Well...time to go back to Part 1 and start these all over again! Congratulations on a tremendous accomplishment, and thank you!
Thank you and congratulations on such a tremendous series of retrospectives.
This has been amazing and so welcomed. Thank you for all your hard work!
I’m a new trek fan and have almost finished all your videos. They are fantastic so I thank you for enhancing my viewing experience. 🖖🏼
Thank you for this series, it's been an amazing trip through time. I can't wait to see what's next
Gotta say it is bittersweet to get to the final part of this retrospective.
It has been a joy to watch such a well written, researched and edited show. I am pleased to hear that you are going to keep doing these for other franchises, I look forward to seeing them. Especially Babylon 5 which may well be my favourite science fiction series alongside Trek.
From one Scotsmen to another I bid you, Peace and long life. Live long and prosper 🖖
I've been following on since youir first retrospective, your work is fantastic and you make a great documentarian. Very hyped for your B5 content, as it's my favourtie TV show by far.
Thank you so much, so appreciate your take in all these, even when I disagree you bring a genuinely positive and interesting perspective. All the best can’t wait to see what’s next!
Really brilliant series. Had lots of fun exploring these shows and films with a more dynamic critical eye. All the best Rowan!
Amazing journey, thanks for all the hard work you put into these vids
I’m so glad to hear you’ve got a long-term plan for retrospectives, that kind of stability can really help so you’re not searching for what to do next. Branching-out with the format is a great idea too, though of course I can see you’re not branching out TOO far to start. While I know this isn’t always compatible with playing the algorithm numbers, going beyond sci-fi for other stories you’re familiar with which have similar political depth, themes, and twisty production histories would certainly be welcome too! But given the length of your list that’s not an immediate concern :)
Anyway, as to the rest of the retrospective, I’m kind of glad that first writing team left. What we got was better.
Yorktown really is beautiful as a symbol of Federation prosperity, I always love the skyscraper apartments along the huge canal which itself provides a window into one of the dock’s corridors! Plus it’s also a symbol of the Federation’s egalitarianism - the ENTIRE station is built like that, in something of an ironic twist to the shooting location given how starkly different living conditions get just a few miles out from the towers in Dubai. Compared to stations in The Expanse, where they definitely have small regions that look just as pretty and cosmopolitan; they also have extremely utilitarian docks and barely-habitable slums. The Federation doesn’t build like that. The space traffic controllers get the same luxury skyscraper apartments, with a great view of space and the rest of that station, as Admiral Avasarala.
TBH I often felt Krall’s prosthetics and fictional language got in the way of Elba’s acting chops… his Captain’s Log scenes and his scenes on the Yorktown are always the most effective for me, so I wish he’d been given more like that. But nevertheless you can tell he acted very hard with what he was given.
The sets throwing everyone around with the inertial dampers going offline was one of my favourite sequences of the entire film, and I had wondered how they’d done it - obviously considered that they gimballed the sets but had also wondered if it was CGI for cost-cutting. But some of the movements just looked too subtly realistically awkward, like they’d be made more photogenic if they were CGI, like the characters “walking in place” on the corners of sets before continuing what they were doing on the floor/wall/ceiling. So I had suspected it was practical - thanks for the confirmation!
I’ve come to like the Franklin a lot more too, than on my first viewing. At first I kept being distracted by how different it looked from the NX-class, but comparing against the two support classes we saw in Enterprise (the Intrepid-type and that other one with a semicircular rather than pointy hull), and the NX-Alpha test ship, then the Franklin clearly fits right in between those two designs. And it totally makes sense to have other smaller ships too, considering they said it took something like 10 or 15 years to build the NX-01 - not to mention already implied by the existence of those other ships despite the NX-01 keel being laid down as soon as NX-Delta hit warp 3.
Can’t say I necessarily feel some of the themes that Pegg talked about, but I do really enjoy all the character work. And the way it’s shot IMO adds a lot more realism to the set design than JJ’s “grittiness”. Like the whisky drinking scene, getting to see the lights and reflections through the window for so long while they chatted about Kirk’s life, as if having warped space just beyond those windows was nothing special, made it feel a lot more concrete to me than JJ’s “wow look!!” style of directing my attention.
Excellent series bud. Very well done!
I am very much looking forward to your future stuff. Especially interested in seeing your take on Space 1999 type shows.
For the last year I've been anticipating your reviews.
Love these videos dude, keep it up! Star Trek is AWESOME!!
Peace and Long Life.
Another excellent video and many congratulations on your deserved success. Very excited for Red Dwarf retrospective 👍
Excellent work on this series. Thank you!
You know what they say, “It's been a long road, To get from there to here.”
Absolutely fantastic another great retrospective. I cant wait for more of your work - very exciting.
This was a great video. A true crescendo! BSG & The Expanse will be awesome for whatever you do.
Thanks for all these! So much apparent love labor
A fantastic retrospective overall, kudos on the excellent work.
thank you so much for another wonderful retrospective! And thank you for your thoughts on the various series! I'm pretty much in agreement with you about the shows.
I’m excited to see your Stargate retrospective. That show was GOLD
I just stumbled into this series and I completely binged them. What a great series. Thank you so much for this gift. 🌸🌸🌸
I started watching these as a companion to my rewatch of all available Trek, but with the shows you have teased for upcoming retrospectives, you have gained a subscriber this day. I humbly beg for Stargate as soon as humanly possible. Especially Atlantis.
As always, thank you so much for these very fun videos, Rowan! ^_^
This is one of my favourite movies of all time, and I enjoy it immensely every rewatch. The dialogue is fantastic. (And I had my first kiss with my partner after watching it, so it’s got that going for it too, I’m definitely biased)
Aww that's awesome
This has been one of my favourite series on you tube ever!
I know that this isn’t a “classic style” Trek movie. Much more action oriented. But I must admit I love this movie. It’s a lot of fun and exciting. I really love that the rock song from the first film reappears. “Classical” music.
It's actually the most like the original series out of the three. They're out in space and the story isn't Earth centric, they nailed the Spock/McCoy relationship, and it was the first time I accepted Pegg as Scotty.
Actually the "rock song" and it's promotion is part of what killed the movie and the movie franchise. It may have been fun but selling it to the audience was a mess.
@@CoreIreland Most people I know liked the rock scene in the movie. But it was that first trailer with the rock song that killed a lot of enthusiasm to see it. I wrote Beyond off after seeing the 1st trailer.
This is my favourite Star Trek film. I was gutted when it didn’t do so well at the box office. It’s what Star Trek is all about. Another great episode Rowan.
You need to watch more Trek then...
Thankyou so much for this content. I was thinking I'd like to see a Stargate retrospective and your summing up didn't disappoint. I've never been a fan of Babylon 5 but I await future content. For now, live long and prosper.
Just wanted to thanks for all your hard work on the Retrospective series---ngl, this being the last Trek episode is kinda sad. Looking forward to B5 and the rest. Bloody well done!!!!!!!
This was a marvelous retrospective. I learned a lot of little factoids and had a fun ride through the star trek universe beginning to end. well done and thank you.
I subscribed to your RUclips channel, and I look forward to more retrospectives to come. Keep up the great work!
Fantastic work, enjoyed every one. Thank you.
These retrospectives have been fantastic. I found them. Few years ago and was very disappointed when i got caught up midway through the next gen movies. I've since watched them all again. Great work
Thank you so much for the entire suite of videos, your excellent work has kept me highly entertained and educated me no end too. Just a thought if you wish to produce any further Star Trek content: the numerous high quality fan-made productions that have appeared in ever larger numbers in recent years could be a very worthwhile project to both critique and provide some in-depth historical overview and narrative, just a thought 😊
I saw a drawing of Anton Yelchin after he passed depicting him meeting Leonard Nimoy and Defrost Kelly ( I think it was Kelly) in the after life and Nimoy was holding his hand in the Vulcan greeting saying "We didn't expect you so soon but now your here you'll want to meet Gene, come with us" its always stuck with me, beautifully drawn and very poignant
Amazing retrospective series. Brilliant! I can't wait for your B5 Retros.
Thanks for all retrospectives!