A Guitar From Behind the Iron Curtain | Musima Lead Star
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- I recently stumbled upon a cool looking vintage Strat copy. Upon closer inspection I noticed it was Manufactured in the GDR.
Since my dad was born and raised in the GDR, I was curious as to what musicians had to work with in that era.
I hope you enjoy this brief history lesson and a little dive into East German Luthiery.
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I have always been fascinated by Non American electric guitar designs. They never fail to have wild histories
Me too, especially old German/Soviet stuff is hilarious and cool
I mean... still a pretty American design.
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Haha, is there any widely known original guitar design that isn't American?
@@DerEchteBoldIbanez Iceman?
@@creepin_deth ibanez jem/rg is also not an american design. although one could argue it's an iteration of a strat still.
strandberg is swedish design, and become pretty recognisable lately.
fernandes vertigo is kinda unusual, but it's ugly and no one knows it, so it doesn't matter.
soviet shit is wild (tonika, krunk, etc). it's more of a meme and a novelty than a guitar, because in general they play like shit and built like ass.
Can't wait to see it getting slowly fixed, I always have that same impulse but rarely follow through
I said I'd do it on camera, so I gotta follow through! 😂
You're one of the best guitar channels around. Heavy success is just a matter of time
Thank you!! 😁🙏🏼🙏🏼
In the Soviet Union itself this was considered a pretty high end guitar, and they were really expensive, but not nearly as expensive as made in America guitars. Knowing that other guitars from behind the Iron Curtain sounded really bad, their pickups picked a lot of noise (like in your video on really cheap pickups) and didn't stay in tune, this is a pretty good guitar for being from behind the Iron Curtain. The worst thing in the Soviet Union itself was that it was nearly impossible to find these guitars, even if you had the money.
That's good to know 🤔
That's it. Musima instruments as a whole were considered theeee shit back there and then. For example they also built an export acc. guitar for Lakewood, pretty high end.
@@creamwobbly Totes worse than the Gulag.
We need to send sixstring a Ural guitar.
@@JeanMarceaux Urals are true Soviet masterpieces. Next to them Musimas look like very high end guitars.
The term “finger cheese” has been officially coined. Great job!
As a German, I can say you've made a great video. Very well done. Never knew about GDR guitars
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! 😎
It's a little bit funny to me that two Germans are speaking English to eachother basically for the benefit of dumb Englishmen like me 😭🤣 thanks guys.
luthiership and musical instruments builder tradition and workshops actually were proud traditions in Klingenthal, Saxony, where most of the GDR instruments came from. Of course most of those were traditional instruments but electrics as well.
It was good enough that Warwick, a old established west-german guitar manifaturer at that time, came over to Klingenthal right in the 90s after the wall came down, basically to take advantage of the trained staff in the region building high priece warwick and framus instruments while being able to pay them a fraction of what he'd have to pay west german luthiers. there were some heated exchanges by former warwick staff and the west-german CEO over the years in regional newspapers (basically the staff calling him a greedy profiteer from the west - a common theme in the former GDR, while the CEO called the east german staff lazy).
its quite a story and far from the only negative story about Warwick and Framus that came along over the last 20 years. kinda sad appendix to the story of former GDR guitar industry.
in 80' that guitar was a dream of my dad who owns Defil (polish brand) classical guitar
I really appreciate the fan for dramatic effect.
Soy cubano y tuve una Lead Star tipo Jackson de color negro y me dió muchas satisfacciones!!!
this is becoming my favourite guitar channel on youtube, good jokes, good playing, interesting topics, detailed coverage, here's to your success
Glad you're enjoying the channel! Got big things planned for the near future!
Me and a friend always share Balkan Post Punk/Punk/New Wave to each other and whenever we found videos of playing they were always using really interesting (usually) Fender copies. Semi hollow thin line tele copies with humbuckers appeared the most frequently of what I saw. Les Paul copies appeared a few times as well
Bro your content is fucking great. I sometimes find myself binging your videos, I always find it entertaining from player around the world and the culture of instruments and especially guitar in other countries.
Glad I make videos good enough for a binge! 😁
Lots more coming soon 😎
Another mandatory Pull Me Under riff at 5:58. Love to see / hear it. 😁 Doesn't seem like a bad guitar at all, especially not for the price, maybe switching out the electronics would be benificial, but other than that, looks and sounds solid.
I'm in the process of upgrading the entire thing. Electronics, hardware. Everything. Stay tuned 😁
@@sixstringtv1 Put some EMGs in it. 😆 Can't wait to see what you come up with, in terms of upgrades. 🤘
Stalins new axe looks sick!
This was incredibly interesting, thanks for the history lesson. Looking forward to seeing you fix this thing up!
I'm excited to fix it up and show people 😎
Entertaining as always!
😁
How do you not have more views.... Your guitar channel is refreshing in the wake of scared nerdy collectors and salesman style musicians. Please, keep going.
I’ve bought a number of Musimas now, a Jazzmaster style guitar and bass, a Hollowbody, and a short scale guitar meant for kids. I enjoy all of them immensely.
This is the most unique guitar subject I've seen to date! It really is a cool guitar. It makes me wonder about guitars in other countries that were dealing with difficult historic circumstances. You could definitely turn this into an ongoing series by country -- even if you can't get copies of all the guitars, the history lessons about other brands and how they managed to produce guitars with all kinds of restrictions (government politics, war, etc.) would be really cool.
When the price gets driven up for these Musema (sp?) collectors' items, you can take full credit!
I could definitely try to find guitars from countries with "difficult" economical situations and review them 🤔
I am from Germany. Born in the West, but visited the GDR, when I was young. Your summary of german history was pretty good. Thumbs up! 😊✌️👍🏻👌
Thanks!
I just realized, you are living in Germany. Hört man gar nicht (kein dt. Akzent), aber bei dem Außendreh auf dem Feld hätte ich es merken können 😜😂🫣
@@DeefPirmasens Vertrocknetes deutsches Feld halt 😂
Another well done video as always. Also the history was explained pretty well. 👍👍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed my little German history tangent 😂
very very good playing kudos
I recently bought a 2nd hand Musima classical guitar for only 30 Euros, it sounds beautiful and I love it. They seem to go for around 350 Euros or so on Reverb, but I don't plan to resell it, its' value exceeds that for me as it is an embodied part of history, like a relic almost
Very cool video! Definitely would like to get one as a wall decoration in my music room now lol
i love the Soviet made Ural guitars and basses, they have a unique style and sound and really interesting electronics, they are cool as hell, i've been meaning to get one for years and was just about to take the plunge buying one from a slightly dubious Russian seller on Ebay and then... yeah...
Damn, it sounds better than that cheaper legato you bought recently. Now I just want this guitar ngl
Cool bit of history. Myself, I wouldn't refinish it, the cool factor, IMO, is because it is what it is. Refinish it and you lose that. I'd probably replace all the electronics and address the locking nut.
Thanks for the content! You are doing great, it's a matter of time that the algorithm start his "fase of great recommendations" and hope you are one of those for other people who don't know you yet.
Hell yeah!!
Soviet made guitars are an obsession of mine. You should check out the Tonika model if you haven't already. I've always wanted a guitar in that shape, but the originals that pop up online are in bad condition and they weren't particularly high quality instruments to begin with.
I've seen those, never played or even held one though... Maybe that'll change someday
Those are actually an amazing guitars. Lead Star 6 screw tremolo with a massive brass block is IMHO the best 6s. vintage trem ever made in the last century. Electronic is brilliant it just needs to be cleaned. I'm not joking at all, their switches and pots are super HQ and will last for decades. They far better then CTS of this new age trash ala Switchcraft.
If your have real solid wood body ( not ply) then it's a keeper, at least i would keep it. Those teems are good as well. If you ever stomp on a model with a huge FR that actually looks like OFR on steroids brag it, you won't regret it. Those Musima FR's were made to survive the nuclear wars.
To my ears Lead Star with 3 single cols and 6 screw trem ( bras block) and solid birch body + maple necks are better guitars then an average US Fen..s
I love your videos😁
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I'm glad 😁
awesome content. subscribed
Welcome aboard!
Nice, Blood and Thunder
You should do a video on how you set your guitars up. It's hard for some people to wanna play metal add can't because their guitars are in dire of setups. You know, string height specs, neck relief specs, that kinda stuff. I mean let's face it, all of us that strive to melt faces off playing metal guitar have a dialed in setup to play that way.
I had an older Ibanez (2006) with their Edge Pro tremolo system. RIP, and good riddance. It had a thing where you could slot the strings in with the ball ends still on, and they had a little seat underneath that they would rest in. I hated it, they never sat properly and then your ball ends could get caught up in other things, or rub off the cavity. So happy to just have a good old original edge now on my 550.
Wow thats cool. My family only has an accordion, purchased in the 60s in hungary. Not sure about the brand but it still works and its in pretty good condition
The only thing I like more than guitars is world history. Loved the information! Germany has always been a major player on the world stage, and its history is richer than most.
For me, and I may be wrong but Blue Effect were the best of pre wall bands. I love Blue Effect as much as I love the Flower Kings.
Outdoor Kaylen said a very interestring part of history. From which part of Germany are you from?
Cologne originally but I live somewhere else now
I used to own one of these, in blue color. 😊
A Strat bridge with fine tuners is extra cursed.
This should be taught in history class :)
It should! They don't even teach this in German schools, let alone internationally
I still have lead star VI superstrat and using it on concerts without problems.
Just changed tuners to locking tuners and everything else is original.
Only bad thing is you cant put too fat strings on it cuz headstock is too weak.
So im using her for D standard tune to play Obituary and stuff like that.
I had a Musima P bass... it was suprisingly not bad - the pickups were pretty damn nice . Just VERY heavy. Body was butcher-board construction (squares of solid wood glued together).
They really copied everything huh 😂
@@sixstringtv1 yeh think you can find a variety of copies not just of fender. The P bass had the "wheel of fortune" truss rod too. I still have the body, the pickups I converted to Alnico V from Ceramic (removed the metal slugs,and ceramic magnets and inserted Alnico magnet slugs in the bobbins) and are in another bass. Necks long gone but still have the body stashed away somewhere. They ofted appear without names on the headstock - giveaway is a small white plastic plug on the rear of the body aproximately behind the bridge location - no-one knows what purpose it served!. When you restore it I'll bet if you take the neck off its a butcher-board (collection of 2x2 planks glued together). Better than the chipboard/plywood on some Korean copies!
Played a musima strat copy and it was great seem to remember it had Japanese parts
Эти гитары легко уделывают фендер мехико. Лучшие гитары lead star 1 без палисандровой накладки- полностью с кленовым грифом. В них вообще отсутсвует стекло и звучат они очень круто. Лид стар должны быть винтажным реликом
Not bad sounding man,I have a 1987 Hondo strat thing lol,HSS pick up configuration oldest guitar I have it was given to me Fiesta red lol celebrate 🍾 😄 anyway its a project someday..cool video bud..🤘😈🎶
I've seen a lot of Hondo guitars, sadly never played one but I'm sure that'll change soon!
Love the Mastodon riffage
😁😎
Don't go too far with the new finish, the white splats look cool. Add more!
Bro I'm sorry to disappoint you but I've gone more than extravagant with the refinish 😭
@@sixstringtv1 Oh, now you're just tempting my curiosity. Can't wait to see it!
Noticing an up in your production values and content keeps getting better.
Keep up the great work and thanks for the reply 😁
There were quite a few of those in Cuba in the 90's
Oh damn
The Tremolo looks like a cheap version of the old Schecter locking tremelo's from back in the 80's. Same system.
I Never took you for a Mastodon fan.
I'm actually not, but they got some good riffs for sure
i have a musima resonata classical and it just wont die. I've dropped it and hit the headstock on so much stuff but shes still going
Quality Soviet Dictatorship luthiery
Will you feature more brands from the Iron curtain like Tonika, Jolana, Defil and Marma?
Unlikely, their music is aggressively mediocre. The only reason I would've featured them in the first place is for this video, but you saw how that turned out
Beautiful countryside. Where do you live, bro?
Southern Germany
@@sixstringtv1 Cool. Love your channel.
Was the first riff you played Blood and thunder?
Yeah 😁😎
I think it's kinda sad what happened to a lot of these bands. And my guess is that this is a reason why they don't answer to much. I had a few long talks with people who were in what can be considered "big" Rockbands in te GDR as well as some people from the small heavy metal Underground that existed there. Many of them had really high hopes when the wall came down. New instruments and way more importantly the chance to get a major label deal. But a lot of these bands like berluc, Biest, Hardholz, Schleimkeim or Formel 1 got swept under the rock by their west German competitors. We are talking about names like kreator, Sodom, Warlock and many more. Most of these GDR bands split up in the early 90s. They had the feeling that in the GDR they could achieve something with their music (wich in many cases was ofc blocked by the state) but when Germany was reunited many of them were thrown into a reality and a music business they were completely alienated from.
I tried reaching out to members of Karat, City etc. Bands that are starting farewell tours soon, so therefore are still active. Didn't get shit back tho
@@sixstringtv1 oh ok that sucks. Karat are still huge here btw prime Dorffest music one would say lmao
I think like 98% of all the Muzima jazzboxes ended up here in Denmark, open up fb market & you have a choice between paying 20p or £20 for one. Depends on wich seller you're buying from...
That's funny, I had quite the hard time finding a cheap one here. Ones that look new are going for hundreds, and people are actually paying that much 😭
@@sixstringtv1 If we're counting in euroes, the last jazzbox i found was for €135 in very good condition, but i've never seen a strat style for sale here. Nothing but jazzboxes here if you look up the brand.
Cool piece of guitar history. I'd put a hammer and sickle on it and do some trem and electronics upgrades and rock it....
found a Musima Leadstar at a local Memoribalia Paraphenalia, the guy said he'd sell me one for 150€.Trying to decide if that's a good price lol
No, it's trash lmao
5:58 whats the name of this song? Or is it an original riff? I figured it was possible its not original, considering slaughter of the soul coming right before it
Pull me Under by Dream Theater
Is the guitar From Russia with Love?
Well by far it's not the worst Strat copy, is it? If you find extra wires or odd electronics inside, that's the secret eavesdropping microphone or possibly the location tracker. For fun you should leave it red and find a hammer-and-sickle flag emblem decal.
I got different plans with it 😎
🧀"Finger Cheese"🧀
Disgusting. Why do I insist on buying vintage 😩
I will never get that word out of my head again… 😵💫
Might be interesting to take a look at the "Ural" guitars from the USSR. They're pretty cheap as far as I know.
I'll do some research 🤔
...tractors!
That lens flare made me think you were censoring your junk for some reason.
Gotta give me a timestamp
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Kudos homie 😂
deutsche dance revolution
Das GDR ist kaputt. 😂
Very cool . How were the frets? I would fix it up. Maybe change the bridge, tuners and pickups and use it as a back up. ♥️🤘♥️
How would anyone not know there was a GDR communist country?
You'd be surprised
@@sixstringtv1 With young kids, no I wouldn't. Public education here in Erica sucks. I'm 61. I lived thru the cold war and was in the Army. Our targets in training were GDR soldiers as cardboard cutouts. I can still rember those GDR Soviet style helmets. 😂
Great channel man. ♥️🤘♥️.
Are you German or an American in Germany? ♥️
I'm a gay 48 yo man, are you single?
Ah darn, I've got a girlfriend. Sorry
@@sixstringtv1 noooooooooo!
It sounds cheap, soz bruh.
It is cheap
So just like Democrat Americans today.
Russia has a unique and I'm sure amazing history. But until they are out of Ukraine, I personally don't want to hear anything about them or their history. The only think I want to hear is they lost and are gone. Nothing else matters from them until that happens.
The video is about Germany
@@sixstringtv1 Soviet Germany. Thanks for understanding the greatest war ever on Earth. It's actually in the video even.
Soviet Germany ≠ Russia
@@sixstringtv1 You don't know what you are talking about. Russia's whole reason for thinking they can take back Ukraine is because it was part of the Soviet Union. Please don't comment anymore.
Yet Germany remains Germany, not Russia 💀
Please don't comment anymore