Sony Xperia Pro-I vs iPhone 13 Pro CAMERA Review!
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- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2021
- We review the new Sony Xperia Pro-I smartphone ($1,800!) vs the Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max to see which as the better camera. The Xperia Pro-I is SO new that the software isn't 100% ready, so Sony asked us to focus on the 24mm lens. We test it for vlogging, night photography, long exposures, and daylight photography.
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The only RUclips channel that really understand and knows how to explain the photo differences, between these two phones
You came here from some other guys channel right?
@@bishopx5ur077 me too.. Now i understand how good this camera setup
Best Mobile phone camera for vlogers. Photographers and youtubers.
Agreed
Photo is iPhone better, but Sony is better in video, love both of them 👍♥️!
The only review I've seen so far that highlighted the true nature of these sony products and their true capability. Great work.
☝️..
The difference between cameras in Sony and cameras in all other phones is the same as the difference between professional bicycles in the Tour de France and regular bikes with two small wheels in the back for children Sony is the largest professional camera manufacturer in the world. It is impossible to make ordinary cameras, but the others have nothing to do with the field of photography
This phone is not meant for average customer.
@@mhkec2550 🔟
@@mhkec2550 yah sure they have they hardware but their sofware proc image for camera is different then the one the use in their camera
Damn the Sony waterfall shot is simply stunning.
Agreed. Software can't replace actual camera hardware. even after so much innovation and advancement. Love that physical lens on the sony.
There’s a live photo in iPhone that can do that to the waterfalls
@@moncatajan3138 Its a much longer process I believe. Merging some photos taken together. I'm guessing here its about the convenience of getting it at one go.
@@KalpeshPatel78 not really, the thing every single video leaves out of the equation is the plethora of third party apps that expand the capabilities of the iPhone to a whole nother level. For example the app “Even longer” lets you do RAW long exposure, star trail and light trail for up to 10 continuous hours all stitched realtime. If you’re serious about mobile photography the power is in third party apps, don’t really get why everyone only reviews the stock camera app and forgets the things that make a smartphone… smart, apps.
The difference between cameras in Sony and cameras in all other phones is the same as the difference between professional bicycles in the Tour de France and regular bikes with two small wheels in the back for children Sony is the largest professional camera manufacturer in the world. It is impossible to make ordinary cameras, but the others have nothing to do with the field of photography
The best review on YT. Thanks for taking the time and truly explain the lenses differences.
Handstrap attachment!!!!! God I missed it so much since Nokia era!!!!
every sony xperia phone has a hand strap attachment.
I put slim case on phones. I look handstrap through microphone slot on case to give any phone handstrap. (I'm not clumsy and drop phones. Really) :-)
I thought I'm the only one
Me too...
@@ryukiT3 not,from Xperia XZ
I've been looking at reviews for this all day this morning, and throughout the night last night. And I have to say for at least the camera portion, this is the best comparison video I've seen so far. Excellent.
Vale la pena
you are the first one who mention other functions of sony pro i rather than only mentioning the camera!Thank you!
This is the review that I've been hoping for. None of the other reviews provide any comparisons where are this review provides the most in depth comparison of a smartphone camera I've ever seen. I was seriously considering the Sony until I saw this review. I'm not serious enough for this camera. Thank you so much!
The problem is if I'm gonna take the time to set up my tripod, and bracket, ect. I probably already have a camera, so why not use that instead and get better results. I think where this phone has a lot of potential though is in vlogging, and replacing point and shoots, could also be a good BTS camera.
i think he meant that small tripod that weight like nothing, not the full size tripod for camera...
This phone work with a small tripod, which you can bring with you on a small bag
I could see it maybe being handy for ultralight hikers that are into photography. But it would be nice if the Sony also had the processing and software power of other leading smart phone cameras with the option to use it either way.
Good point.
@@MrWarezy sony have the processing power but they are lacking in software department... hope they can develop a good computational photography and implement it to their camera line up too...
Just got the Xperia 5 iii and was amazed about how well the technology developed in camera and video for phones. Especially, Sony integrated the camera technology they have within the company for both stills and video. It is simply great. And I have the Nikon Z7 for real photography, but the phone is always in the pocket...
Do you like you experia 5 III? Need a new phone to replace my iphone 6s. How’s the camera?
Agreed sony is far far better than Apple
@@elletangere8964 The cooling solution for the 5 III and 1 III are insufficient, overheating on heavy usage, this is coming from a loving Sony fan, waiting to pull the trigger on next years(if improved) or this phone possibly.
@@haneylondhe6697 Not according to Tony, unless you mount the Sony on a tripod.
@@elletangere8964 Dont wait more.
U will be so pleased.
This is the most detailed phone review I’ve ever watched!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
great suggestions for Sony... As a Sony dSLR user I would be interested in knowing if they have integrated software apps to allow for remote control of the Alpha cameras. It would be great to have an external monitor and an "easy" connection for displaying and accessing images shot on the dSLR. Something superior to Imaging Edge. It could offer software algorithms to optimize taking photos. It could integrate with user settings controls. Imagine all the additional custom buttons options saved on the phone. It could even store multiple settings as favourites - like memory settings - but with a full description of all the ones saved so you can customize and see the results. It could help me remember all the custom settings - movies and photos etc...
Great stuff!
SONY is one of those companies that don't use the Pro title with liberty. It is for professionals hence why professionals would enjoy it. It isn't for the average consumer at all and was never designed to be. Shame that the other lenses are so tiny
Almost all photo/videographers don't rely on smart phone cameras. iPhone is good for beginners while the Sony may be alright for intermediate video/photographers.
iphone is good in each part ( gaming , speed ecc exc) i doubt sony is
@@MrBuzzoVerde it literally has the latest from snapdragon
@@MrBuzzoVerde It's good. I got the Xperia 1iii. Even on my previous Xperia phones, the outdated ones, the speed is good and I never experienced any problems with my phones like lag or like it suddenly shutdown on their own, except after years of using it when I can't download new versions because I have low memory. Unlike my friends who experienced these problems on their iPhones after a year of using it.
@@essmogami4373 does it overheat?
I love how Tony takes the credit for bringing up "innovation", while on Sony's engineering dept, it was all written on a whiteboard somewhere, 5years ago.
R&D took that long?
I hope they also upgrade their software. They suck at it.
@@blezc1498 releasing all available tech in one go is not a good marketing strategy. No one will buy their products anymore.
@@olivercesu8782
Sony's hardware is really tops. No complaints. My 7-year-old z3 still works. It's their software that sucks.
I still have an Xperia 1. No plans of upgrading within this year. It's not worth it. Android 11 update ruined fp scanner. Website only said, they knew the problem exist. 😭
This is one of the most helpful review I’ve ever seen. Thanks so much bro
Great review and comparison! I particularly enjoyed the 🤓 comparison of both sensors, the lenses and ISO 👍🏻
Finally! Now the world will see the power of Sony. 🔥
The world hasn’t seen it yet? 🤔😂
Too expensive, and it is not for the average user.
For $600 you can just buy a Canon APS-C EOS M200 and a 22mm f2 that will also fit in a pocket and takes much better images. This $1,800 phone is way overpriced.
@@sophieedel6324 1200 for 90D, plus 400 for 2 lenses , still 300 cheaper ,
@@sophieedel6324 but with the canon you only get a camera, but with this device you get a camera plus a smartphone with a lot of features. 4khdr oled @120hz, HS power control (bypass the battery while charging when gaming), and so much more
that's what i call PRO CAMERA REVIEW.. great job .
On pre-lease, unfinished software. It's a rushed job to get views before other creators do it and is incredibly misleading.
wow , these camera comparison videos are SOOO useful when a photographer explains every detail like bracketing, sensor size, f stops, crops, light gathering
@Purple Dragon its explained in the video
Great review! Thanks!
Just show how Sony uses the PRO word in an actual meaning, while Apple just uses it as marketing
Bingo.
pros are using the a1, not a fancy phone
Whatever you think how good your android camera is I BEG YOU just dont make any tiktok, instagram stories, snapchat or any video content related appS. It really really hurt my eyes
Swear to god if i ever see that disgusting laggy, pale video content that coming from any android and seeing all those disgusting android emoji again
its always easy for me to tell which people who using iPhone and who dont
@@DimasWilardi-jh8ud At least they are using a smart phone, not just an iPhone ;)...
Absolutely spot on review Tony!! Thank you. I hope more folks watch this and understand where Sony was going with this device!!
Really great review!
This is do helpful and many thanks from Manchester UK. 👍🏼
Great review. Looking forward to your take on the Google Pixel 6 Pro.
Hey Tony, great review. I think you nailed the use case Sony imagined for this phone. There is a mistake on your iPhone formula. It should be 32*4.56^2 I believe. Also, one question: how can it be that the sensor size does not come into paly when calculating the 35mm f stop equivalent?
Thanks!
Absolutely detailed information,sir. Hard work!
Thanks Tony, as always a great review :-)
at $1,800 if Im serious about my photos I just take a Sony A7iii. If you have to carry a tripod anyways… might as well just have the full frame camera with you also.
Oh come on whats up with everyone bringing up the tripod. It is just pretty rare scenario and even when bringing it, phone tripod is still a tiny thing that can fit into your pocket, can't say the same about the camera. The point about having a phone like this is that it is always with you for any kind of situation you might want to capture. Different use case than full frame camera obviously.
Cant make a call on your Sony A7iii
@@pappykozzmo3165 Is not about making a call or not… the video is about camera capabilities. And he is pretty clear about this, you must have extra accessories, and spend significantly more time taking the picture, and then you have to spend time on software… if you are doing all that for the picture, might as well have a real camera with you,
@@MrMozkoZrout Well the Sony RX100M7 does fit in the pocket and will leave this Sony phone in the dust and cost $500 less. You are missing the point….the reason why we bring up the tripod is because it matters, most people want to use their phone camera as is, not carry tripods and spending extra time on software. I can imagine someone at a wedding dressed up all nice and having a tripod on the pocket all night waiting for the perfect moment to pull it out and use it… 😂or a woman with her dress… where would she put the tripod in that case? 🤔it just doesn’t make sense and that is why we bring it up. Not to count how the iphone takes better pictures around 90% of the time.
@@canillocanillo3371 Well do you actually carry RX100M7 with you in your pocket every day ? Of course not, it is still totally different use case from a phone. I meant you need the tripod for some crazy nightime pics, or pictures of stars or moving waterfalls. The point just was that contrary to other phones, this one actually lets you do that but you won't need the tripod for most of your phototaking needs. Besides as i said, smartphone tripods are tiny, you could easily have it in that wedding suit that you brought up for some reason. I mean suits have tons of pockets btw. But i mean even using the woman with a dress as an example and asking where would she put the phone while it is well known mystery where do girls even put their regular phones while wearing dress kinda shows that you are making the same mistake as other reviewers. You expect this phone to be a phone for everyone, for the common user but it's not. Normal Sony lineup isn't for the same audience as Samsung S series or iPhones and the Pro phones even more so. These phones do way less things for you automatically but give you tons of options to set things manually, they are tuned to take as natural pics as possible. And yeah i agree that this is not desirable for common people. It also doesn't mean it is meant only for proffesionals or to be a replacement of a dslr or some point and shoot camera. Just a camera centric phone taking a different approach meant for people that enjoy tweaking things and playing around.
8:18 I just love how you called the Sony a camera and not a phone 🥺 definitely deserves it
You are seriously a very good reviewer, Brother.
My love from Bangladesh.I think you have the potential to be one of the best reviewers in terms of subscriber counts really soon.Good luck and jajakallahu khairan
finally, someone with actual knowledge in photography to properly review this phone. great job, sir.
I feel like a skilled photographer with this much time to put in his photo would have a dedicated camera for it and use his phone for quick clear reliable photos/vidéos and that seems to be the Iphone
agree. I love photography as well. No matter how good the camera.. Or how good the software is, i never enjoy serious photography on a phone. Not because they have terrible camera. just because the form factor of a phone is not fun and awkward to do serious photography. thats why for phone I wouldnt care less about the feature. as long as they can give me a good image on the spot.
I love photography and have a low-end Canon DSLR (APS-C) along with a few lenses. I was enticed by the Xperia 5 II for all its photo capabilities and when I could get one of those through work I did so. But when I was out testing it I realized one thing pretty quickly. That no matter what app with manual settings you have it will never be the same as shooting on a dedicated camera, since you cannot control the aperture or change lenses. It is such an integral part of "real" photography to decide the aperture based on what you're shooting that it simply was not fun on the phone. I used the pro-apps the first week. Since then I always use the basic photo app with at most some manual exposure settings. There are 3 different lenses on my phone, but since both the extra wide and tele are worse than the main one, they simply are not good enough.
This camera do have aperture settings, but only two options. Its still not the same.
This phone is aimed at people vlogging or to be used as monitor together with Sony cameras etc. The price makes sure that no other people would ever want to buy it aswell.
Exactly my thoughts...why would you spend that much money on a phone if you are professional, if you could get a get a really good entry level full frame camera at that price. Phone are meant to be a run and gun camera in my opinion.
I'm a skilled photographer and I don't always have my camera with me and often times I'd like something more powerful than just a really good iphone camera.
I think Sony nailed it with this device.
Yes, agreed, but a few things this has that goes a long way to make it better. The strap and the dedicated shutter button.
I’ve used phones with dedicated camera buttons , as long as it’s responsive, it makes it a huge improvement. If you can add a strap plus good grip (will there be an insensitive portion of the screen you can hold?) that would be close enough for me. As much as I enjoy shooting with a real camera, sometimes it’s just a chore to haul around a 2nd device, no matter how small (even Pentax Q system)
Keep in mind this is prerelease hardware and software as Sony and other creators/reporters have stated. I'm not sure how better the results will be with the fully release ready PRO-I (well at lest all cameras and all camera features would be available, currently they're not), I'd really like to se a proper, fair follow-up.
A really great review with clear perspective
you are great and have in depth understanding of camera, thank you very much.
I really just want an rx100/rx10 series Sony camera that runs Android like the Samsung galaxy cameras, so we don’t have to deal with phone sizes optics
Rx100 is inconvenient as a phone. Just grab any phone and the camera separately
Me too!👍
@@OppositeOpinion what this guy want isnt phone, but just camera with android on it, android software make managing photos easier, heck you can even work with the photo directly in the camera
Also, On the daytime spider shot... wouldn't it have made more sense to shoot at f4 rather than F2 on the Xperia in that bright light.... plus since the shot is more long range it would have helped keep more in focus...
So glad that I subscribed. Very clearly explained and right comparison to choose iPhone as contender
I am glad you are giving attention to cell phone cameras. As I look for a phone with a good camera, its nice to see a pro review them.
I love that Sony is doing this. After watching reviews of how well the iPhone does photos and videos compared to the new Pixel, Sony is the saving grace for Android. Apple should learn from this.
But not with the 1800$ price tag!
Iphones Camera sensor produce by Sony... Just sayin..
5:21 Apple simply takes much better shots
I would rather get a good phone and a good camera. Jack of all trade; but master of none = wait for a better version or don’t waste your money paying for R&D
@@sophieedel6324 not better than photo pro
From DPreview “The big story is of course the 1"-type stacked CMOS sensor from the RX100 VII. However, in order to keep the phone small, Sony has designed a lens that can't project an image circle large enough to cover the entire area of the 1" sensor. That's why, instead of 20MP images, as you'd get from the RX100 VII camera, you get 12MP images. But this has a broader implication: the combination of a slower F2 lens (than many of its smartphone peers) and a sensor that's not quite as big as a 1"-type sensor means the image quality might not meet the initial expectations you might have when you think 'smartphone with RX100 sensor'. In fact, if you consider just the area used for 12MP stills, it has roughly a 12mm diagonal and 70mm2 sensor surface area: closer to the specs of a 1/1.31" sensor (such as the one in the Google Pixel 6).”
Its a common camera manufacturer scam ..You dont get a full 1 inch sensor ..you get 1/3 of an inch ..FACT: its NOT a 1inch sensor ...its a 1inch "type" ....which is much smaller ..one inch "type" is camera marketing fudge from the 1950ies FACT: an "actual" 1inch sensor is 3x bigger eg: APSC
@@relaxingnature2617 that’s not what Tony says!
@@relaxingnature2617 It's not a scam, just history. The sizing of imaging devices goes back to a formula they developed for vidicon tubes. That's the system still used for measuring pretty much all small sensors, and it's at best confusing. Though as long as you're measuring everything the same way, the units don't really matter all that much, eg?
@@relaxingnature2617 No, we're not talking about naming conventions here, the phone literally does not use the entire 1" sensor. It uses a 12mp crop, making the imaging area about the same as a 1/1.3" sensor. Basically there is no reason for this phone to have a 1" sensor at all.
Subbed. Finally a reviewer who knows what he is doing.
Amazing review
3:25 iphone at 1.0 sec at 2000 iso vs sony 30.0 sec at 100 iso
Is this because the iPhone can't do that?
@@ukmitch86 the iPhone can do that. With a tripod it also allows you to take long exposures, up to 60 seconds. Why Tony didn't do that, I don't know.
Could we get a follow-up video that tells us if it really only uses 60% of the sensor. Because that is crazy bs to sell a camera as a 1" cameras when it onlly uses a fraction of the sensor.
it is the reality, the whole of the sensors is not used for the capture because the rest is dedicated to the phase detection. this is surely how they managed to cover 90% of the surface of the sensor.for comparison with the rx100 vi that covers only 65% of the surface but after that remains the deduction there is no official answer yet
@@hdwblade Are you sure about that? It's a huge difference!
@@LippiVan no I actually since googled it. It's right, a 60% crop making it effectively the same size as the iPhone 13's sensor lol
@@hdwblade That's heavy from Sony. Since they obviously make the phone for pro users and advertise it as a 1inch Sensor.
@@LippiVan yeah, pretty messed up that there will be ads from reviewers everywhere talking about a 1" sensor that isn't even being used to its full extent
Great review
Great review sir
Subscribed. This was such a good neutral review. Loved it and I like that you appreciated the Sony for what it is. The problem with Sony is that their software is just not as good as most of the great mobile manufacturers. Imagine if they had such good software developers like apple or Samsung?
Before many years in 2014 Panasonic had released the first 1" sensor smartphone. The Lumix DMC-CM1 smartphone with a 28mm (35mm equivalent) f/2.8 lens. According to reviews then, the sensor was by far the best in the smartphone market but the optical performance of the lens at the corners wasn't great. Maybe for that reasons the lens of the forthcoming Sony 1" smartphone has two apertures. An f/2.0 aperture for lower ISO and depth of field when is needed and an f/4 for better sharpness from corner to corner when there is plenty of light. Nevertheless the Lumix DMC-CM1 was an important achievement in 2014.
Earlier in 2021 the the Sharp Aquos R6 and the Leitz Phone 1 have been released. Both with one inch 20 megapixel image sensor, both with Leica 19mm (35mm equivalent) f/1.9 ASPH. Summicron lens and probably both with Sony image sensor.
It is well know that Sony sells image sensors to other companies like Apple, Nikon, Hasselblad etc.
If the sensor of the Sony Xperia PRO-I is 20 megapixel too, it should be the same with Sharp and Leitz smartphones.
It's rather comical that the DMC-CM1 was resoundingly criticized, not for the thick body even as much as the $999 list price. Who in their right mind would pay $1K for a phone! The press, clearly, did not have their Magic 8-balls working for those reviews.
Dave Haynie 1000$ phones are very common nowadays.
@@AgnostosGnostos Of course they are. They were not in 2014. These days, we've seen phones well over $2,000. It's kind of crazy.
Very nice and detailed review .
Excellent, unbiased comparisons 👍🏽
The day that phone cameras reach Pro camera capabilities is getting nearer and nearer. Wow.
It won't get there for the simple reason that the cameras will always have more physical space than the phones. Until the phones become the same size as the cameras, they won't match.
Having a 1" sensor doesn't make up for the lack of a 70mm and 105mm lens. Thank the stars too! I just got the Xperia 1 III. If this phone had a 200mm lens I would probably need a divorce lawyer.😅
With a sensor like that, you easily strap on a 3rd party lens
Wow very nice review thanks
Excellent in depth comparison the way it should be done!
for $1800? i'd rather buy the sony zv1 for $700 with the same sensor and better aperture, and keep my current phone.
Not only does it have a slightly larger aperture on the wide end it also actually uses the entire sensor area, unlike this phone.
but you then need to carry it everywhere for the purchase be worth it tho.
@@MuhammadKharismawan Indeed, this a pro camera that is designed for everyday use.
In my country the iPhone 13 pro max with 1tb is over 2k usd
@@RK1FX yeap... iphone tax can be very, very expensive indeed
Holycow! Sony is a few league ahead of everyone when it come to camera. Well I'm not surprise because all the flagship phone have Sony's sensor in them.
Hahahah false. Samsung has its own sensor in S21 ultra and crushes both of these..sony did very poor here already xd
Leagues ahead? Really lol, tell me again from this video how many times the Sony beat the iPhone when NOT on a tripod? Zero
@@451greenwood You have to use the tripod. This phone is meant for professionals not casual use.
@@_H_A_R_S_H_I_T_ it's a phone first, and NO I disagree,even today most photographers do not carry a tripod when they take there phone out lol, if you wanted to use a tripod then you'd use a proper camera, most people want high tec mobile phone,one phone,not carry multiple phones around because there sony phone can only be used on a tripod, my Xperia 1 works better on a tripod, yes I have used one with it but 99.99% will never happen, and the name pro is not professional if you cannot hold and shoot,I mean can you imagine if my A7 camera was only usable on a tripod ,? No one would buy it, I understand that in this case the Sony pro phone will work better on a tripod but from what I'm watching and reviews are saying hand holding is not as good as the competition? At £1800 it should be the best on the market without the restrictions, I personally would have considered this phone but sorry my Samsung S21ultra is just overall a better phone because the cameras are more usable and without the restrictions
@@_H_A_R_S_H_I_T_ and why can a Samsung ultra not be used for professional work if the Sony can? Don't forget that crop sensor is 20mp yet the phone only uses 12pm of that sensor, that means the other 8mp is redundant, I bought the Xperia 1 based on alfa technology and it was rubbish, the old huawei P20pro that was older preformed better, and same with Xperia 2....so why would I think anything has changed?
You are the SUPERBOWL of SONY SMARTPHONE REVIEWS!!! Thanks
Very professional comparison 😊
Well done, Sony!
I've always known Sony phones work best in manual mode with a tripod mount for long exposures. The main reason they tend to get poor review is that reviewers always test them in auto mode where their A.I. Is pretty poor compared to rivals.
True.But manuel change the game.
it's not that the software is poor it's a question of technical choices. Sony will prefer to keep images that are natural and true to reality. When other manufacturers will distort this reality, especially at night when most manufacturers will choose to artificially light the photo but for me it loses the interest of a night photo and the atmosphere that goes with it, here the comparison with the iPhone the only difference is with the ISOs Sony is conservative and attempts to render an image with less noise the iPhone tries to make the image look beautiful on a small screen but quickly turns into a mush of pixels filled with noise on large print or large screen (ISO 10,000 is huge)
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It's for people who prefer natural sets of picture, not Instagram pics.
People tend to use an automatic mode since they don't know much photography
Just shoot take picture and proclaim as good photographer lol
The only channel that I can consult to compare smartphone cameras.
Just like how Xperia Pro-I stands out among othere, this is The review that stands out among others for the same reason. Well done Sir. I wish i have come across you sooner
Sony is and always has been at the forefront of professional video production hardware, so I don't find it surprising how damn good their camera products are. I often thought Apple should have ingested Sony. They have always seemed like a very complimentary companies from a technology point of view. Then again, I guess Apple need someone out there to compete with. I love all my Sony and Apple products, but at the end of the day, a Sony phone isn't going to set up my Home Pods. Meanwhile, I await my A7IV.
I loved the design, definitely something different, definitely something from Sony
Finally! A review that really taps the camera capabilities and potential of the pro i.
Great review! I have the Xperia 1 II and your conclusion that it is a great camera if you treat it as a camera is true for that one as well. The usage and options encourage and rewards post processing, but they are not so great in "auto" (but good enough for me).
Thanks for this quick review Tony. First it's crazy expensive! Although I love that Sony is riding the smartphone wave, unlike other camera manufacturers - they won't be left behind when smartphones eventually take over certain types of photography. As a photographer, I'd rather use a Vivo X70 Pro Plus which is $800 dollars cheaper and will probably beat this phone for night shots, portraits and zoom shoots. The Vivo X70 also has Zeiss T* coated lenses, has incredible bokeh in portraits and has a manual mode for bracketing, intervalometer and up to 32 sec long exposures. If you want a better comparison try that. Also as to your point about putting the Xperia on a tripod etc. if you're going to do all of that, just use a mirrorless or prosumer camera with better sensors/lenses, why bother with a smartphone?
The sony has sony alpha colour reproduction (no smartphone look) eye autofocus, a shutter button, natural looking HDR options, 4k HDR screen, Heat Suppression with power delivery just like laptop chargers. The vivo will always be viewed as a phone unless u shoot RAW
Hey itai ndoro
Can you recommend me the best cheppest Android phone to record hd 1080 30fps videos ?
I want to create yt channel and i don't think i can afford a dslr camera. If you think there's a good budget camera, please suggest 🙏
@@jakilahmoulien9070
Can you recommend me the best cheppest Android phone to record hd 1080 30fps videos ?
I want to create yt channel and i don't think i can afford a dslr camera. If you think there's a good budget camera, please suggest
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My replies get deleted bro I left a comment on one of your shorts. Talk to me there🤦♂️
Yeah, the Sony is like $800 more than other competing phones. So you'd expect it to do more. You'd only want to get it if you're actually making use of the extra things it can do.
Great stuff Tony! Wish the Sony was a little less expensive though
I hope you do another review when the 50mm lens is enabled. Interesting to see that the Xperia 1 iii and this model both have the same chipset. That doesn't often happen to a successor device. This phone would get a huge level up with the next gen 895 chip on ARM V9.
*EXCELLENT REVIEW!*
The Google camera (gcam) often takes android cameras from mediocre to great. I'd be really interested to see the Xperia tested using that app to get the benefits of computation and the sensor
Yea, worth a try
True but it defeats the purpose.this phone was supposed to be a phone that can somewhat be an addition to your dedicated camera.adding computational photography will just make it like every other snartphones out there
For the tripod argument, this a pro-camera that is designed for everyday use, not for the normal folks but something the professionals would really be glad to carry everyday.
I have to say, for all that effort, the picture quality is mediocre. Compare the Sony with something like a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 or even the Lite version (which i currently have) and that phone produces much cleaner and sharper (detailed) images.
@@masononemine1702 No
@@leonardodavinci7425 ? What makes you say that?
@@masononemine1702 My sister in law has a Xiaomi mi note 10 pro and the camera is poor compared to both my Huawei P30 Pro and P40 Pro.
@@leonardodavinci7425 does she take RAW photos and then processes those? I am sure not. Read my comment again, its about putting the amount of effort into the photos that Tony did in this video to get good results out of the sony. If you dont mind I can share some results from my Xiaomi phone which are raw captures and they look far better than anything sony is offering even with Raw photos. Speaking of which, your Huawei P40 would absolutely smack the Sony once you put the effort into it, and its not even alot of effort its just taking raw photos and running them through lightroom.
Terrific comparisson! Thank you! What are your thoughts now on the experia pro-i, pixel 6 pro and 13 pro overall comparison between the 3? Thanks!
This is one of the best reviews.
It always amazes me how professional photographers think that Iphon cameras are the best, when they are just limited and average. Android phones could do this for around 6 to 7 years. LG G4 from 2015 could do long exposure up to 30 seconds in RAW,with pretty good results. Not to mention all the Huawei phones for example p20 pro and p30 pro from 2018 and 2019, that are still better and more capable than 2021 iPhone. There are also lot of other smartphone brands.
Why didn't you do bracket shoots with IPhone, just for comparison?
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Yes android comes out with it first but Apple always masters it before putting it on their devices. I’ve been a Samsung/one plus user for long time. Switched over to Apple and everything is definitely better
IPhones produce better image quality on average for the average person who are just using it as a point and shoot. It’s no fuss. Some other phones with more features CAN produce better pictures if the person using it know what they’re doing but the truth is for most people, if you are taking it on the phone chances are you just want a quick snap.
@@tiramisu327 Yes, I partially agree, it produces good image quality, not the best,or better than the other's. But for average person it is excellent. I am tolking about the reviews from the professional photographers who are presenting iphon camera as the best for smartphone photographers, (that actually exist) but in truth it is far from being that, and they don't bother with any other brand, it's like they don't even know that there's a so much more. If you want to use a full capability of smartphone camera than some of the Android high end smartphones are long ahead of Iphon.
@@Rx7Kiralyno No, I disagree. They do it good, but far from the best. Last year I decided to change from android to iPhone, and bought 12 pro max, and I was disappointed with the camera. I like it wery much, but camera was way behind huawei p 30 pro that I had before iPhone. Now I have Samsung galaxy s21 ultra, and I can tell you that I'm also not 100 percent satisfied with the camera's.
*Sony has arrived with these new devices since the Xperia 1 Mark I, with so many innovations, technologies, design and elegance that no other device has been able and yet having input for Headphones is amazing!*
except the iphone is still better, and its cheaper
@@falcodarkzz no not really
@@adamirfan6986 i have both. xperia battery sucks
@@falcodarkzz iphone also suck battery
@@falcodarkzz my redmi battery last longer ..
Nice work 👏
Wow, amazing smartphone pictures. Love your cool bike, Tony. 👍😲😊
If I'm gonna go through the trouble of bringing a tripod, then I'm gonna use a REAL camera. Hard to see why I'd choose the Xperia over an iPhone for day-to-day use.
Well, it's one less piece of equipment to carry around for a hobbyist photographer. You can get similar benefits to a high-end point-and-shoot from the Xperia, but it's also a good phone. It's a very niche product, though, but I do understand why someone would want it.
Exactly!
A lot of content creators start out on their phones. High-end cameras are simply too expensive for most people, especially with interchangeable lenses. As for day-to-day use, for a power user like me, the iPhone lacks all the following (in addition to not being Android): headphone jack, SD card slot, 4K120 recording RAW, dual speakers, IP68 rating, no notch, fingerprint reader NOT on the screen, matte finish (so no fingerprints on the body), physical camera button, really good DACs, OLED 4K 120Hz 10 bit screen...need I go on?
@@spdcrzy cameras are too expensive? What about the phone for 2k?
@@belok177 The "phone" hardware ITSELF is probably worth $1000 (888, 512GB/12GB, 5G, 4K HDR OLED 120Hz screen, etc. etc. etc.). I'd say getting a $1000 camera sensor on top of that for $1800 is a pretty good deal. Don't forget that, for quite a few people, this won't just be their PRIMARY device, it'll be their ONLY device.
So why can't just Sony make their auto setting similar to the iPhone's or Huawei's?
What's so difficult about doing that?
Only difference is lack of auto HDR.
You can turn on when P mode is selected.
This way, even 5ii can do better than iphone.
Without making photo completely unrealistic and blueish
It is mostly about the direction these companies are trying to go. Samsung and Huawei ususally like to oversaturate pictures, 'enhance' them with AI. iPhones love to oversharpen stuff. All of them make night pictures look like afternoon. They force HDR everywhere so sure u have detail in highlights and shadows as well but sometimes you lose the dramatic effect in pictures. Sony simply wants their phones to take pictures more like traditional cameras. To capture the scene in the way it actually looks like. It uses some enhancment, mostly taken from their actual cameras but it is very subtle and definetly not as aggresive as other brands. It is just the direction Sony is going. It is a phone for people that like to tweak stuff and play around rather than people that just don't want to think about this stuff and let the device do all the work for them. And people like that exist too and it is good that there is diversity in these approaches because both are valid. Shame that so many TechTubers don't give Sony enough credit for it tho.
Sony encourages their user to shoot RAW while other brands just point and shoot. Sony camera really bad at computational photography. Sony can't beat the competitors unless they really try to improve the HDR. But who buys Sony phones for camera? Well maybe some but with that amount of money, I'd buy an actual Sony camera.
@@PotatoSoKawaii Ah i swear to god, why every freaking time phones from Sony are mentioned. There is always somebody who says that they would rather buy a real camera or that the phone is only for photographer proffesionals and those already have a camera. No. Camera and phone have absolutely different use case. If you are in a market for a phone you won't just say huh this is expensive guess i'll buy a camera then. If you want a phone and you like to take pictures and you like the approach Sony is going with here its the only phone on the market that offers that.
what a good reviewer , most will just pns and just brush it off while this dude take his time to take a good shot
Ok, I so hope Sony takes your suggestions into considerations. Bulk mode, Bracketting, Flash-Trigger would be soo lovely with that phone! Still - this thing is really interesting to replace or accompany my ZV-1... very close specs and I'll definitely have that one with me all the time!
If we've to set it on a tripod, bracket the shots and merge it together, a smartphone with one inch sensor for $1800 is not something wise to invest
This phone more likes a 1800$ toy instead of a smartphone or a point&shoot camera.
Exactly. Idea of a phone camera is convenience. Point shoot done.
😱 Can’t wait to Camera Conspiracy get his hands on this perfect vlogging machine!
The Lizard men will be pleased
@@fadark55 probably not with the price, esp as he'd need the add on display. but hey that display will actually be usable with any other Smartphone.... other than the iPhone that is XD
They will try so hard to get bad results lol
Hahaha he always gets so hilarious, he's right though. This Sony phone be looking fine.
Woow amazing video 😍✌️
Having a strop is nice, love it has 3.5 Jack, and a bigger sensor.
I agree with the points you made.
It would be interesting to see overheating tests, see how many pics or how long it can record in mid summer temps like 30c. Xz premium only lasted few seconds before wit got a warning so jud tfew pics. So rendered the phone usless for photography in midsummer. I hope my new A52s will do better, it sure did websurfing and gaming. But I will get a mirror less camera. I've notbdesided yet, so far Sony A7IV, Lumix s5, Canon R6 are possible options.
2000 $
i will go for sony A7 camera instead of these two lol
a wise video maker or youtube video maker will never buy any of these mobiles
but if they have a Sony a7 and have 2000$ i think it will be wise to buy i phone 13
listen !!! u want to spend 2000$ for ur video or photography just for this
then get a a Sony A7 siii thats it
if u want a mobile + pro camera like u dont have a camera then go for sony Xperia pro i
Tony trying to make up with Sony after his A7iv "overexcitement" 🤣
Dang finally someone who knows how to use camera reviewed sony phones. Thank you! I subscribed you
Very nice and interesting video! Thanks 👍
The night shot is not an "apples to apples" comparison (excuse the pun). The iPhone is 1 sec exposure, ISO 2000 presumably handheld v 30 sec, ISO100, tripod mounted for the Sony. Obviously the light capture by the Sony is going to be far greater! The lower ISO will give less granularity and the tripod much less micro movement. When you then "pixel peep" obviously you are going to see a difference. It is disingenuous and misleading to not make these differences explicit. The Sony may be better in low light but this test does not prove it one way or the other.
Sony reminded the world that it was the best. To me, Sony is a legendary tech company.
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Great review! I have none of photographical knowledge and wasnt able to get any opinion from like Unbox Therapy review which was like wow its nice a lot of settings. Thanks to you I know its great weapon for skilled photographer but pass for anybody else.
If only Sony would make the effort to get these carried in the Canadian market!
Looks like you might have to carry it to Canada yourself 😏
tffff? i was thinking just on mexico they dont sell anymore dammit
If you turn on live photos with the iPhone, you can actually select "Long Exposure" as a filter on it and it'll convert the live photo to a long exposure close to the same look that you got with the Sony. This feature isn't very well known but it is there to use and much better than trying to do long exposure the manual way.
Thank you i just found out that 🙏.
@@Bruce.Wanye. no worries, it’s a hidden feature that not many people know about but it’s really useful
Nice review
Very good comparisons and explanation, being fair to both handphones. Totally agreed that iPhone 13 is for people who just want to snap pix while the Pro-i is for those who love photography. Thanks for the great review and the comparative pix.