@@mysteryjunkie9808 Maybe shove explosives on his fave or something like that. A stun mechanism maybe. Omni man heard his cap.flapping and got to him before he could do anything though
Red Rush was the key to everyone surviving. He would of moved everyone away from killing blows and let them grind Omni man down until he passes out from the abuse.
I think it’s worth mentioning they did a ton more of damage to him, considering a satellite beam worth billions gave him a nose bleed. Sadly enough even if they did best him and somehow found a way to kill him with viltrumite body cells their home planet would have just sent another maybe even multiple to finish the job. Probably the dumbest part of this fight was dark wing, the fuck did he think that drop kick was gonna do lmfao
Something not mentioned in Omni Man vs Green Ghost is that she's the newest member of the Guardians with less than a few months of experience. Couple this with their anxiety and you have a hero that freezes up in the middle of battle like Invincible's first romp with the Flaxans.
One thing that should also be noted: In the TV-show it is very clear that the Guardians would be a serious obstacle to a Viltrumite invasion, because Omni-Man is *not* an average Viltrumite, but part of their warrior elite. Based on their second fight, the Immortal would definitely be able to beat an average Viltrumite in single combat and I think there is an argument for War Woman and Red Rush as well, since both were strong and fast enough to injure Omni-Man.
I mean the average viltrumite is still really strong. Also I don’t think The Immortal could win even against a regular viltrumite. Viltrumite cells are shown to be incredibly durable, meanwhile The Immortal is still technically human, which means he is not nearly as durable as an average viltrumite.
@@certified_freak I think basically the argument is if he could put up with Omni man even for a fraction of time he could basically kill an average viltrumite which makes sense
@@certified_freak You aren't wrong, but there's a reason Nolan wanted Immortal gone immediately, he tried his hardest to get a sneak attack in first and with how Nolan collapses to his knees AFTER everyones dead and nobody can see him (i still dont get how some people think he faked being hurt) and taking decent damage in the second fight, The guardians could definitely take a viltrumite or 2, definitely not 2 of the elites though.
I doubt he did. He was in a life-threatening situation and dying is worse than getting caught Edit: To all the people reading this, thinking "but didn't he obliterate them instantly in the comic?" The show differs from the comic
@@runtergerutscht4401 Hm... that's true, but if Cecil has a way of identifying Omni-man's blood then Omni-man would have to have won the fight without bleeding to not get caught. Which considering the power levels of everyone there especially Red Rush would be nearly impossible.
well you saw how he speed blitzed an entire planet and wrecked every city. he could have just speed blitzed the mountain and they wouldnt have survived.
@@danielroden9424 that's unlikely, just green ghost could save the entire team from a collapsed mountain, and more then half can avoid or just tank the rubble.
In the comic he butchered them in moment. Idk what your on about they were like termites that lay on the ground.. the animated version give them a fair battle but in reality a normal vultramites could take in the earth defence heroes and still win. Without even breaking a sweat
Yeah, it seemed like Green Ghost was shellshocked from seeing teammates die so suddenly. If she participated and Darkwing didn't commit suicide, the fight would have been very different.
It was very close, if Red Rush lived to save Aquarius, and to join in on beating the fuck out of Omni-man when he was restrained by Martian Man, if Martian Man put his core between Omni-mans shoulders, if Darkwing did a single useful thing in that whole fight, if Green Ghost phased WW's mace into Omni-mans skull, if Aquarius could pull the water out of Omni-man brain. If anything went slightly better for the Guardians then Omni-man would at the very least die with them
I have no idea what Darkwing was planning to do there lmao. He sees a being that he knows has god-like abilities and apparently his plan is to jump on him
@@MG_Spy And leave his friends to die? Dark Wing is not the type. Besides, Omni Man is fast as hell, he would never allow any of them to leave the cave. Dark Wing had 0 chance of survival, so he likely suicided in an effort to distract Omni Man long enough for the others to attack.
@@sid7906 but he did do some damage or at least stunned him somewhat with the explosives earlier. He should've noticed that much and kept the pressure up and given his teammates more openings to work with. He can help at long range but he should know he'll get decimated at close combat. Maybe he still would've been a casualty of the fight but he definitely *could've* done more if he didn't jump on Omniman like a dumbass. If it wasn't for his brain getting splattered on the floor I would've guessed he didn't have one.
Eh, looked like they were set on fighting and killing him as soon as Red Rush got his head popped. It was more the fact that he caught them unprepared, and the fact that he was likely studying their powers and weaknesses in his head during the duration of his association with them.
Nah that ain’t it as they live in a world where superpowers are very prevalent they thought he was being mind controlled, it’s not that they didn’t want to fight him like as you saw they were trying pretty hard to knock him out and even try killing him when red rush got his head popped. The thing was that he knows their weaknesses and knows how they fight. if anything the fight would have been more one sided if he was more strategic (like the comics)
one BIG thing I noticed, is that The Immortal is missing for a lot of the fight. After Red Rush is killed, I'd expect Immortal to be attacking any time War Woman is, but he's just absent. Her mace appears to be the most effective attack against him by far, so if they could've knocked him back and forth between them a little bit more, that would be that.
I wouldn’t say she has good defense, if it was given a stat I’d say she has high evasion. Her power doesn’t let her take any attacks but it lets her dodge any kind of damage
Same thing with the reanimen. I will never understand how some robot zombies could do more damage than an orbital strike powerful enough to level a forest.
I thought the orbital laser didn't do much because it couldn't burn through his skin - Guardians meanwhile punched him so hard that Omniman's internal organs took a lot of impact. But I'm no expert on that so I'm probably just spitting bullshit :"/
@@howdareyoudissmycheese9249 reanimen didn’t do shit but annoy home to buy time as u can see zero blood is even scratch after their fight with Omni man
Not really. Omni Man was likely holding back to play the victim card. In the comics he slaughtered them instantly without them standing the slightest of chances. If he saw they were standing a chance, he would just stop holding back and kill them all
Bruh hell na Omni man faced people like thrag on his own.. and survived even normal vultramites can destroy and annilat the entire planet by their own.. he was very psychological unstable after making his deciton to eliminate the guardians.. it would have been even a bigger massacre of he didn't give a shit..
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 Fact is they could’ve helped eachother, Omni man is very powerful yes but fighting the hole team if they used their attacks and weaknesses effectively could indefinitely win.
I think, guardians could have totally defeated omni man (maybe with Cecil’s help), if they were prepared and knew about his real intentions. It’s the entire reason why omni man didn’t just kill them 20 years ago as soon as he arrived to earth. He knew he would be taking too much risk by facing them directly (or he didn’t even know how much exactly risk he would be taking), so he gained their trust first and studied them, and then 20 years later when he realised it’s time and took them by surprise
I think it was becouse he was disappointed in Mark's weakness more then anything, i didn't read the comic so i don't know if battle beast can actually defeat Omniman
@@whiteobama9366 ive heard some chatter from comic book readers and apparently battle beast is one of the strongest characters in that universe so I think it’s safe to say he was scared of battle beast
@@whiteobama9366 spoiler Both omni man and battle beast fought the strongest viltrumite Omni man got one shot in seconds-minutes but battle beast was able to fight for days against the viltrumites (general thragg) and thragg considered battle beast to be an equal due to how much difficulty it took to kill him
@Frost Flurry She isn`t nearly as fast as Omni-man, nor as skilled as he. He would find a way to beat her in a one v one. There isn`t much she can do, but assist her team in defense, like Red Rush. Red Rush, imo, was the most important hero to have in helping to beat Omni-man. He just needed to assist the hard hitters and tanks on the team. They all had slim chances in beating him, but he dropped the ball hard. It all went down hill when he died...
Red rush could have carried Green ghost on his back, running around letting her phase war woman and immortal and the others to safety to dodge omniman's attacks
@Keith Random Studio! what about immortal + green ghost green ghost phases immortal so that omni man cant attack him, they get to omni man and then immortal puts his hand through omni man's brain or heart, and green ghost unphases immortal. boom, immortal's hand is gone, but omni man is seriously injured or possibly dead, but immortal grows his hand back
Red rush made Omni man cough up some blood, bruised his chest, probably broke some ribs. He also saved three of the gaurdians. Immortal, Aquarius, War woman. It is also worth noting maybe Martian man, could have been a little fatigued before the fight, because he was hitting up a new PR before the fight.
Unfortunately he had the worst death of all, his world passes by hours, so when Omni man was crushing his skull, it was hours of pain and agony for him.
Red Rush going in for melee is the worst decision in the fight. But this way is probably better, since he would have died one way or another and this way he didn't have to watch his friends get murdered in front of him
@@javinmel it's easy to mistake it for that, but what we see actually is what red rush saw see how slow he was punching and stuff? It was about half a minute for red rush when it was basically instantly for everyone else
@@thalmoragent9344 they were charging towards them to help, but like eazykiel said time moves quicker for him so that moment must have been the most horrendous torture lasting hours! definitely would have stood a chance & that's why he took them out, as earth strongest heroes & the rest is spoilers for peeps that still haven't finished & comics!
If he started to punch his face instead of his chest, chances are Omni-man coul've loosen the grip a little. I'm not saying Omni-man couldn't tank those punches, but getting punched repeatedly at supersonic speeds in the face, for someone like him, would've been an extreme nuisance. And even if Red Rush ended up dying anyway, I imagine omniman more fucked up and easier to take on. His sight would probably off; his nose, definitely broken, which could case breathing difficulties, and probably a good ol' concusion. Now that's better for the remaining guardians than a few broken ribs.
Comics spoilers: In a one off story arc where Mark gets sent to the past, and warns the Guardians, they are able to knock Omni man out and restrain him, so that Cecil can lock him up.
They would still have Mark on their sides, and the Guardians, and could prepare for an invasion of Viltrumites (recruiting more people)... although according to Nolan of the future at begining they would only send 3 or 4.
@@-18 Mark didn't keep his powers, just his knowledge. He was like old Mark, just with knowledge of the future - and old Mark lost to Omni Man pretty easily.
Don't worry, Green Ghost will return as Dead Woman just like Dead Man in DC Universe. All we need is a ghost to possess a Viltrumite even Superman was controlled by Dead Man... *Ghostfreak can too.*
If War Woman would have just picked up her hammer and wailed on Omni Man while Martian Man had a hold of Omni Man for the second time they would have probably won.
@@garryjohnson9328 Omniman literally almost had an eye popped out when WarWoman hit him with it. It might not be Mjolnir, but it's still a blunt weapon that can handle super strength.
@@garryjohnson9328 Think they changed it up in the cartoon because the whole motiv for killing them is because they are supposed to be a legit threat to the viltrumite invasion... When the whole idea that Nolan can just kill them all effortlessly pretty much contradicts that alleged fact. So War Woman being able to do some serious damage to Nolan isn't just for shockvalue, it's also to show how dangerous the Guardians of the Globe can be.
@@garryjohnson9328 But this logic involves ignoring the stuff we actually see on screen. There might not be any mention that the mace is magical, but we get to see in action that it is durable enough for WW to bash someone as tanky as Omniman repeatedly without getting as much as a dent. This would imply that the material that the mace is made of is super durable, and the fact that WW can hit Nolan hard enough to not just bruise but also give him concussions, implies that WW is strong enough to be a threat. Also, although Viltrumites are indeed high tier in the universe, they are not entirely invincible. Their whole strategy of infiltrating foreign planets to weaken their defenses to prepare for bigger invasion forces, kinda highlights that.
Given how things go in the comics later on, it IS possible they could have won with enough preparation. The surprise element of his assault as well as the sheer shock of the betrayal as well as his brutality really gave him the edge here.
Let's remember that Omniman can destroy heads in an instant, Red Rush did as much damage as he did in less than a second. He could also deflect Omniman's punches. Playing defensive until the right moment would have allowed Red Rush to knock out Omniman, with a lot of broken bones, but alive.
I think Red Rush's sole focus should've actually been damage control. He broke his arms punching Omniman, but could move Guardians out of harm's way all day. He is faster and has more advanced perception than Omniman, but not nearly as durable or strong, so *any* strike at Omniman directly is way too risky.
@@bearistotle2820 Nah. I think Omniman was crushing his skull so hard and by the time he started to punch with his wrists, his brain wasn't even responding right
Yeah, he should of been defensive, but I think it just didn't cross his mind that Omni Man would be able to catch him. I mean he indeed was faster than Omni Man. Much faster, as it seemed, and he knew that. He knew that he was faster, and perhaps got a bit too cocky.
@@blame7121 Yeah, he wasn't an idiot necessarily, I would just try to help in a way that makes it so I spend as little time near Omniman as possible, but this is me with hindsight.
@@bearistotle2820 yeah you gotta keep in mind that they were caught off guard and definitely didn’t plan to be fighting omniman, red rush was probably thinking “I’m way faster than him, he can’t catch me”.
Some things I think should be noted: 1, before red rush dies, it isnt framed as a kill omniman situation, but a *subdue* at most situation. 2, They more than likely are shocked and tired, Martian Man stretching himself to his personal limit, Green Ghost in the middle of something. Plus the shock of watching your friends being brutally murdered by another friend hurts. 3, They are still confused seeing omniman, a friend, doing this. Until they realize its them or omniman, they dont decide to go for the kill. Even the last thing anyone says in the scene is, "Why?" They are confused and until the very end, not trying to kill him.
3:20 you know, I didn't realize the first time that red rush death was happening so fast, I thought he had some form of enhanced durability and that his ally took a super long time to help him but actually it's all from his perspective where his head gets crushed instantly but it takes ages for him... this is horrifying actually.
I think the fact that one of their "friends" turned on them was a big shock, and probably caught them off guard. Along with the trauma of the death of their other friends
If they had been more prepared; Aquarus, Green Ghost, and Martian Man should resorted to more savage biological attacks. Aquarus should have attempted to remove Omni man's fluids to weaken him while he's being physically attacked. Green Ghost should have attempted to phase through Nolan and disrupt his brain or heart. Martian Man should have attempted to enter Omni Man through his nose or ear canal and attack his brain and/or respiratory organs. Anyways, great video! I enjoyed your assessment. 😊
Aquaris I don't think can control another persons fluids he can only produce water from his body. Green ghost could've easily killed Omni man as you said phase through him. Martian man puts himself in extreme danger wrapping around Omni man like that. If you re-watch the fight scene Omni man tried multiple times to grab his weak spot meaning he already knew how to kill him.
@@controlman7490 the only real exploit he didn't do was to graverob the immortal and to hide his body parts in different parts of the world, although he maybe didn't know he'd come back
It's very well possible that the guardians can subdue Omniman, possibly without Mark's help, but they definitely lacked coordination. Martian Man was the most critical member in the attack alongside Aquarus, because they were capable of suppressing him for a good length of time. Martian Man could've tried to put his heart somewhere out of reach of Omniman, meaning the only way he could break out would be to brute force it like last time. Should Omniman break free, Aquarus just needs to hit him with the water jet until he can be bound up again. War Women was probably the heaviest hitter because of her weapon, but she completely abandoned it in the fight. If she managed to keep using it while Omniman was tied up, she could beat him to a pulp. Green Ghost could've shoved him partway through the floor to help immobilize him further. The Immortal could've helped with the pummeling or assist in suppressing him with his super strength. Red Rush can help to move allies out of the way of danger, same with Green Ghost. Darkwing is almost useless here except for some gadgets to stun, plus whatever utilities that might help tie him down. Spoilers ahead. I never read the comics, but from what I understand, there was some kind of "reset" where Mark got thrown back into the past and had his age reversed accordingly, but maintained his memories. He immediately confronted his father and ousted him as a conqueror, causing him to attack. Mark lured him to the Guardians base and together with the rest of the team, took him down.
Red rush actually saved three of the guardians. When War woman is fighting Omni-man Red rush quickly deflects one of Omni mans punches so that War woman doesn’t get hit.
Good analysis. I completely agree. Since I first saw the show I've thought that the Guardians weren't very coordinated in their strategy because, each being pretty strong themselves, they never had to rely on teamwork to win before. So Red Rush was kinda the closest thing to a team player, same as in the opening fight at the White House.
Actually, Red Rush saves three members. If you look closely when Omni Man starts attacking War Woman, he blocks one of Omni Man's attacks that would have killed War Woman. If you pause at like 2:35 you can see it
If Green Ghost would have decided to just phase his spine, bones like his legs and/or arms, or even his organs out of his body, the fight would have been over.
@@khoseftadros2775 she could phase people into the ground phase through a building and means can phase through a person means hand phase into omni man's head if she wants to but she didn't think about that because she was shocked to see her friends die.
@@matthewboyce2295 considering her line of work, fighting aliens and her life being endangered because of it, that’s kind of a lousy excuse considering everyone else was at least doing something, she literally did nothing nothing at all
@@khoseftadros2775 no because if your dad started to kill your family you would either be to shocked to do anything or you would run she did the first one.
Honestly, Red Rush should've been virtually undefeatable - they explicitly take the time to say he perceives time at a slower rate than the rest of us, which means he should have had all the time in the world (from his perspective) to see Omni-man raise his hand to catch his punch. I sincerely think it's just an oversight; a lot of authors severely underestimate speedsters in fights
He was already committed to the punch, how was he supposed to eliminate all the momentum he had already built up? If anything, seeing omni-man move his hand to catch him just informed him how fucked he was.
@@Aburaishi Yeah I feel you. I'm still convinced he couldn't have done that, but with nothing but a single fight to showcase the guardians' abilities we can't ever be sure about the extent of their abilities, so it could go both ways really.
I think Red Rush would also count as a heavy hitter, since he left bruises on Omni-Man's chest. He would aid War Woman and The Immortal while Martian Man wraps around Omni Man.
He should have wrapped around Omni Man's wrists like handcuffs. Hell, he should have turned into some sort of five point bondage shape that wraps around each wrist, each ankle, and his neck.
The thing about red rush is: he's fast, yes, but his durability is nothing to brag about. When hitting a harder object, even if he uses many weak punches instead of a few strong ones, it will damage his hands. His despair attack did really harm Omni-man yes, but it also completely broke his arms. He cannot do any real damage to Nolan without breaking himself, too. Except for going for the eyes. He could go for the eyes.
The reason they lost was lack of strategy, lack of preparation. They literally could have won but they did not have contingency plans, like Batman. They should've known that a being as powerful as omniman could one day be a threat, but they didn't
No one was even wondering why he didn't want to join the guardians and no one even made a background check about who he is and where he came from and that's why they got killed by a wolf in sheep's clothing.
A main part that the show emphasizes, especially with the new guardians of the globe, is that team work is key. What I’m saying is, if the team had worked together, red rush would’ve still been alive and the team may have survived.
The old GOTG worked really well together. The new guardians would have died in seconds, which is why Cecil kept them on the bench. Of course their abilities are quite ill suited for a planet menace so I don't blame them but they hardly worked wonders together as a team.
I like the show fight much better than the comic version. He kills the whole team in less than 2 pages in the comic and you almost wonder why he bothered if they were such a breeze to kill. In the show, we see the guardians as a serious threat to omni-man and once we knows he wants to conquer Earth, it makes much more since why he needed them eliminated
Spoiler for later chapters of the comic so don't read any further if you don't want to be spoiled: In a spin off of sorts, the guardians do beat omniman. And without losing a single member. But this time they were prepared. So it's only because Nolan attacked while they were unprepared that they were beaten so easily.
Ya, Spoilers but in another Timeline the Guardians DO beat him when Mark warns them that Omni-Man is coming. So the element of surprise is literally the only reason Omni-Man was able to stomp the Guardians the first time around.
Yep. All the characters resemble the powers of the DC characters with only difference Superman being way stronger than Immortal. Given that, Superman could defeat Omni-Mam!
martian man simply needed to keep his red dot ( probably his brain) in between omni man’s shoulder blades as his body builder physique couldn’t reach it. You can see how nolan couldn’t reach the tentacle on his back after Mark pointed it out
I’ll just randomly think this exact thought. They really coulda taken him out(I also always thought it was his heart. But it being his brain makes more sense)
@@eljefe9140 si lo iban a vencer, de hecho, en el cómic cuando mark viaja al pasado le advierte a los guardianes que se preparen para el ataque de omni-man ellos logran vencerlo con facilidad
In the comic, there is an alternate timeline where the Guardians defeat Omni-Man without Aquarius. Omni-Man couldn't jump the gun on fighting them in the alternate timeline fight, and they get the upper hand on him.
Spoilers: They had invincibles help with that. Also, if Omni-man just cut the lights like he did in the comics I think it would've been almost as one-sided as then.
@@abdullahelnaas4473 Well they also had concrete proof he had gone off the deep end, that being him chasing down a battered and bloodied invincible. All invincible really did was show and tell them what was going on with Omni-Man. The only thing they needed to know to have a shot at winning was that they weren't fighting a brainwashed friend, but a full blown deceiver.
It was actually really bad, even if you exclude any info from the comics, surely you can understand the fraction of his power shown ep 8 and how it is much much greater in comparison to the guardians
I'm really salty about Red Rush dying so freaking fast. He was by far the best member on that team. Red Rush could have probably been a greater challenge to Omni Man, but Red Rush still saw Nolan as his dear friend hence Red Rush tried light punches to knock him out... and Nolan just went straight for the kill.
@@diegoaespitia pretty sure red rush broke some of omni man ribs or at least made omniman's lung bleed internationally. All things considered, he's pretty op.
If you ignore the theory that he let himself get so badly beaten its pretty cool and frustrating seeing how they could have actually beaten him if they were prepared for him. Red rush was vital in protecting his team but went in alone and got killed. Darkwing was effect at distracting and stunning him along with Aquarius. Then Warwoman and Immortal could have combo-ed better with Martin. But instead Red rush and Darkwing stupidly got killed and Green Ghost got caught in it then the rest fell like dominos
Green Ghost’s death is literally the stupidest shit ever. She should have just remained incorporeal for the entire fight. Even longer, to tell others what Omni-man did. Instead she stayed solid, which is how Omni-man killed her. She might as well have just been a regular human at that point.
She literally saw one of her friends splatter her other friend like a Jackson Pollock painting all over the ground. Imagine if your a police officer and the chief of police shot one of your coworkers dead out of nowhere.
@@graysonguinn1943 She just lost a friend and a loved one because one of her friends betrayed her trust. Its like your brother kills your mother in front of you with no remorse. Even if you are used to seeing blood and seeing people come and go as a superhero, superheroes can still be shocked when they lose someone near to them because it makes them realize that they can't save everyone as cliche as it may sound.
Grayson Guinn you didn’t read the comics but green ghost is new to the GotG, shes filling in an empty spot so she doesn’t have that much combat experience hence her freeze when she sees an ally kill 2 of her friends
Treat Omni-Man like a raid boss and divide the team amongst their skills. Red Rush for instance should not focus on attacks at all and should prioritize a support roll. He saved two Guardians already and could easily add to the longevity of the team by doing so, same with Green Ghost being able to phase other Guardians to ensure their safety. Martian Man, Aquarus, and Dark Wing lack heavy offensive power but all have a strong suppressive or distractive aspect to each of them, swapping between each suppressive tactic would suppress Omni-Man. Immortal and War Woman are the heavy hitters or DPS of the team and did the most damage to Omni-Man in the initial fight. Viltrumites seem weakest to blunt damage as well so aiming for the skull was effective, just that the whole team would be present that time around.
This was a very good video! Your scripting and voice are both great, if you get a better recording setup and some better background music this is professional quality!
The important thing to consider as well is that a lot of the team struggles to be useful because of the speed at which omni man moves. They are already well coordinated but you cant out strategize something you cant see
I felt like Red Rush was the most crucial part of ensuring the Guardians' victory over Omni-Man, given his abilty to rescue everyone. Once he let himself get caught, they were picked off one by one and lost the edge they needed to win.
Had war woman given him her mace so he could hit harder and had the rest of the team been self-sufficient and avoiding omniman and not relying so heavily on him he could have taken on me man out on his own because he was straight up faster and stronger than him he only lost because he was distracted trying to save his friends
This is how Batman v Superman would _actually_ go no matter how "prepared" Batman was. You have to really really REALLY catch him off guard for Kryptonite to get close, and without a completely out of the blue ambush Bats just ain't gonna pull it off.
@@ItsMrChristmas lmao the thing is superman a good guy he wont kill batman, batman himself said it "Deep down he a good person(superman) and deep down im not" - batman
That wasnt little time. Their time relative to earths was different. He spent about 2 months there. But on earth it were a few minutes. He grew a beard there to prove it.
Another note I might add for Red Rush and his defense is just before omni man punches war woman you see red flash hit his fist I assume this is to stop the fist or atleast make it lose momentum. This is a great defense tool and sadly not used enough
And people say that videogames doesn't add anything, everyone on this comment section is more strategic intelligent than the guardians combined, me and my teammates on any game make better decisions
The trick is getting him to stay still, war women’s mace takes a bit of time to swing, and if he could predict what Red Rush did, he probably studied how she attacked as well, and probably would have either dodged it or uppercut her as she raised her weapon to swing. If he stays still it becomes a lot easier, which is why the Martian is crucial to this fight
That's literally how he managed to get a hit on her. As she was swinging it left her wide open and he punched her before slamming her head into the ground.
I doubt he had to study how she attacked. His speed, strength, and martial arts advantage over her is already enormous. She couldn't even hit him from behind right before she died. Only seemed necessary to study the gimmicky powers like Green Ghost and the Martian. And also Red Rush because Red Rush is the only one actually better than him at anything. Studying for War Woman would be like a black belt studying to beat a white belt.
You know... why not give the mace to Red Rush? He's probably more capable of catching Omni-Man off guard with it, and in all likelihood he should be able to essentially play a game of dark souls dodging/blocking long enough for green ghost to go for the disable.
@@justjoking5252 If Omni man can catch his fist he’d be asked to block the mace, and plus the guardians were caught with their pants down, meaning they had no time to plan and probably didn’t even think of that
If you ever feel stupid, just remember darkwing tried to jump omni man
What exactly was his plan? Like maybe if he had something that could’ve blinded him but I doubt he did. Guy committed suicide by Omni-Man
I mean he would’ve probably died no matter what he could’ve done so might as well try
@@mysteryjunkie9808 Maybe shove explosives on his fave or something like that. A stun mechanism maybe. Omni man heard his cap.flapping and got to him before he could do anything though
@@1YCARADOFACAO no capes!
but he had the high ground!! :D
If Red Rush had stayed defense, they might have survived. As soon as he went on the offense, they started to die one by one.
My exact thought
Red Rush was the key to everyone surviving. He would of moved everyone away from killing blows and let them grind Omni man down until he passes out from the abuse.
@@Tone_Of_Dials someone's in a bad mood
@@Tone_Of_Dials lol why write this?
@@Tone_Of_Dials yeah and we'll use you as a human shield
Thanos: you should have gone for the head
Omni man: noted.
Ok this is hilarious
He did tho.he actually aimed for immortal's head in the scene.
@@ersundawn4903 Omni Man aimed for everybody’s head.
Which one?
its actually true in the original Inifnity Gauntlet comic, Thor had Thanos dead to rights, but waited too long to finish him off.
"He knows all their weaknesses"
Their weaknesses: *death*
Except for immortal
@@Complex.History Immortal's Weakness: Omni Man
@@Complex.History underrated comment!
He just had to hit them REALLY hard
Lmao
He used their weaknesses against them. They're powerless without their heads!
Holy shit, you’re Right
Insert red rush pun
ofc he was thinking about this for years, he was like a pre pep batman.
Why isn’t there a doctor strange or doctor fate in that universe to resurrect them?
@@lando1gamez473 and Aquarus and Immortal pun
“The green ghost has an incredible defence” *omni man using her face as a grip for his shield*
Oh nah 😭
😂😂😂😂😂
Well, she was cought off hand, omni man literally launched her partner's dead body in her arms
Or perhaps caught ON hand?
She was shocked when omni-man threw Darkwings smashed body at her
I think it’s worth mentioning they did a ton more of damage to him, considering a satellite beam worth billions gave him a nose bleed. Sadly enough even if they did best him and somehow found a way to kill him with viltrumite body cells their home planet would have just sent another maybe even multiple to finish the job. Probably the dumbest part of this fight was dark wing, the fuck did he think that drop kick was gonna do lmfao
I know right.The only thing he could have did has give him a noogie or purple nurple him and he still would have died
He probably was trying to blind him. He did just watch his friend get killed by another friend so maybe he wasn't thinking at all.
i think he believed omniman was being controlled by a machine and hoped to disable it
Yeah that satellite bit was a little dumb. It did nothing to him while some cyborgs bogged him down?
for real that was how i expected batman vs supermen to go
Something not mentioned in Omni Man vs Green Ghost is that she's the newest member of the Guardians with less than a few months of experience. Couple this with their anxiety and you have a hero that freezes up in the middle of battle like Invincible's first romp with the Flaxans.
And the fact that none of them posses even near the amount of strength it takes to defeat a viltrumite
@@fistofsatan7338 Immortal could probably beat weaker viltrumites. But only in 1v1s. Two could probably overwhelm him
This is why batman has a plan on how to kill his friends lmao
Neutralize, not kill.
@@onyxt3589 neutralize and kill bc maybe neutralizing won’t always work
Yeah realistically Batman would end up like Darkwing. I think that's the point of the character.
@@dmfuerte Batman can be a gif sometime
@@onyxt3589 Neutralizing them usually involves their deaths.
"He knows all of their weaknesses and uses them to his advantage."
I guess getting punched really really hard is a weakness all of them share.
It doesn't matter who or what you are, a ton of concentrated concussive force is gonna hurt
@@jooot_6850 what if you're a ghost? And I don't mean like green ghost, I mean a literal ghost
@@floricel_112 like a ghost type pokemon
@@floricel_112 don't care i will punch a ghost's jaw off
@@franciscogras3976 no, an actual ghost, meaning perfectly intangible; cause ghost type pokemon can still be affected by elemental attacks
One thing that should also be noted:
In the TV-show it is very clear that the Guardians would be a serious obstacle to a Viltrumite invasion, because Omni-Man is *not* an average Viltrumite, but part of their warrior elite. Based on their second fight, the Immortal would definitely be able to beat an average Viltrumite in single combat and I think there is an argument for War Woman and Red Rush as well, since both were strong and fast enough to injure Omni-Man.
I mean the average viltrumite is still really strong. Also I don’t think The Immortal could win even against a regular viltrumite. Viltrumite cells are shown to be incredibly durable, meanwhile The Immortal is still technically human, which means he is not nearly as durable as an average viltrumite.
@@certified_freak did you watch the show??? You sound dumb, OMNIMAN is ELITE and the immortal almost got him just stfu
@@certified_freak damn people can’t have civil conversations anymore, you made a good point about a cartoon and that kid lost his mind.
@@certified_freak I think basically the argument is if he could put up with Omni man even for a fraction of time he could basically kill an average viltrumite which makes sense
@@certified_freak You aren't wrong, but there's a reason Nolan wanted Immortal gone immediately, he tried his hardest to get a sneak attack in first and with how Nolan collapses to his knees AFTER everyones dead and nobody can see him (i still dont get how some people think he faked being hurt) and taking decent damage in the second fight, The guardians could definitely take a viltrumite or 2, definitely not 2 of the elites though.
“War Woman possesses super human durability” gets her neck snapped like a literal twig by omni man 😂
Wonder woman ripoff could never stand a chance againts the real queen (wonder woman)
Yeah but the viltrumite race is more powerful than her, remember that hard selection for choosing the best of the best among all of viltrumites
@@jeremy-tp5pu im pretty sure wonder woman would get obliterated by omni man too
@@wolflightning2331 eh
@@wolflightning2331 not really wonder Woman kinda beat Superman so wonder Woman would defiantly obliterate Walmart Superman it just facts
The terrifying thing is: Omni-man could have been holding back the whole time to get injured enough for his cover story.
That is also plausible
I doubt he did.
He was in a life-threatening situation and dying is worse than getting caught
Edit: To all the people reading this, thinking "but didn't he obliterate them instantly in the comic?"
The show differs from the comic
@@runtergerutscht4401 Hm... that's true, but if Cecil has a way of identifying Omni-man's blood then Omni-man would have to have won the fight without bleeding to not get caught. Which considering the power levels of everyone there especially Red Rush would be nearly impossible.
well you saw how he speed blitzed an entire planet and wrecked every city. he could have just speed blitzed the mountain and they wouldnt have survived.
@@danielroden9424 that's unlikely, just green ghost could save the entire team from a collapsed mountain, and more then half can avoid or just tank the rubble.
all they had to say is “you dad, I’d still have you” and he’ll just fly away
lmao
Omni Mans ultimate weakness
Yeah after a bit of "train"ing
Omni man hates this one simple trick
@@kblearner1528 Hah, nice pun 😂
"They were WEAK."
*THEY WERE YOUR FRIENDS.*
[Implying it was the betrayal that won the day for Omni-man]
Oh nice, didn’t think of that
In the comic he butchered them in moment. Idk what your on about they were like termites that lay on the ground.. the animated version give them a fair battle but in reality a normal vultramites could take in the earth defence heroes and still win. Without even breaking a sweat
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 I'm just enjoying the drama! XD
@@penelopegreene grab the popcorn shit about to go down
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 (in the comics)
Yeah, it seemed like Green Ghost was shellshocked from seeing teammates die so suddenly. If she participated and Darkwing didn't commit suicide, the fight would have been very different.
“and Darkwing didn’t commit suicide”
Ok, that made me laugh
It was very close, if Red Rush lived to save Aquarius, and to join in on beating the fuck out of Omni-man when he was restrained by Martian Man, if Martian Man put his core between Omni-mans shoulders, if Darkwing did a single useful thing in that whole fight, if Green Ghost phased WW's mace into Omni-mans skull, if Aquarius could pull the water out of Omni-man brain. If anything went slightly better for the Guardians then Omni-man would at the very least die with them
I have no idea what Darkwing was planning to do there lmao. He sees a being that he knows has god-like abilities and apparently his plan is to jump on him
@@MG_Spy And leave his friends to die? Dark Wing is not the type. Besides, Omni Man is fast as hell, he would never allow any of them to leave the cave. Dark Wing had 0 chance of survival, so he likely suicided in an effort to distract Omni Man long enough for the others to attack.
@@sid7906 but he did do some damage or at least stunned him somewhat with the explosives earlier. He should've noticed that much and kept the pressure up and given his teammates more openings to work with. He can help at long range but he should know he'll get decimated at close combat. Maybe he still would've been a casualty of the fight but he definitely *could've* done more if he didn't jump on Omniman like a dumbass.
If it wasn't for his brain getting splattered on the floor I would've guessed he didn't have one.
The could have defeat him, but they weren't prepared to fight a "friend"
Exactcl (sorry for write wrong) we see they are very estrategists in the being. But to fight withy a allie...
You should add: "...to fight a "friend", like Batman did"
ruclips.net/video/PAVy8wY0mgw/видео.html (Batman Contingency Plans)
@@cesaro.a.g.6426 I really like this because it shows how smart and tragic batman is
Eh, looked like they were set on fighting and killing him as soon as Red Rush got his head popped. It was more the fact that he caught them unprepared, and the fact that he was likely studying their powers and weaknesses in his head during the duration of his association with them.
Nah that ain’t it as they live in a world where superpowers are very prevalent they thought he was being mind controlled, it’s not that they didn’t want to fight him like as you saw they were trying pretty hard to knock him out and even try killing him when red rush got his head popped. The thing was that he knows their weaknesses and knows how they fight. if anything the fight would have been more one sided if he was more strategic (like the comics)
They probably should've just asked if his mum's name was Martha.
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!??!
Omni Man : Martha? Who's Martha? My mom's marty
one BIG thing I noticed, is that The Immortal is missing for a lot of the fight.
After Red Rush is killed, I'd expect Immortal to be attacking any time War Woman is, but he's just absent.
Her mace appears to be the most effective attack against him by far, so if they could've knocked him back and forth between them a little bit more, that would be that.
“The Green Ghost has Incredible defense”
*Then shows a Scene of how shit her defense is*
I wouldn’t say she has good defense, if it was given a stat I’d say she has high evasion. Her power doesn’t let her take any attacks but it lets her dodge any kind of damage
She would need crazy high willpower for her skills to be viable against a raid boss like Nolan
She didn't even try
Welp, i guess her defense is only for humans
ruclips.net/video/CU2_2hEQYZA/видео.html
Orbital laser caused only nosebleed to Omni-Man while in this fight he spills blood like Saliva just imagine how HARD are they punching him
Same thing with the reanimen. I will never understand how some robot zombies could do more damage than an orbital strike powerful enough to level a forest.
@@howdareyoudissmycheese9249 because writers seemingly never care about consistency
I thought the orbital laser didn't do much because it couldn't burn through his skin - Guardians meanwhile punched him so hard that Omniman's internal organs took a lot of impact.
But I'm no expert on that so I'm probably just spitting bullshit :"/
@@howdareyoudissmycheese9249 reanimen didn’t do shit but annoy home to buy time as u can see zero blood is even scratch after their fight with Omni man
Andrzej Zochowski yeah that’s what I think. The laser was just heat energy while those impacts from the punches do actual damage
It frustrated me how easily they could’ve actually taken him down
@Steve Vento At the first site of that attack they should’ve known lol
Not really. Omni Man was likely holding back to play the victim card. In the comics he slaughtered them instantly without them standing the slightest of chances. If he saw they were standing a chance, he would just stop holding back and kill them all
Bruh hell na Omni man faced people like thrag on his own.. and survived even normal vultramites can destroy and annilat the entire planet by their own.. he was very psychological unstable after making his deciton to eliminate the guardians.. it would have been even a bigger massacre of he didn't give a shit..
@@kaedonx0673 That’s in the comics. We are going off what’s in the show.
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 Fact is they could’ve helped eachother, Omni man is very powerful yes but fighting the hole team if they used their attacks and weaknesses effectively could indefinitely win.
I think, guardians could have totally defeated omni man (maybe with Cecil’s help), if they were prepared and knew about his real intentions. It’s the entire reason why omni man didn’t just kill them 20 years ago as soon as he arrived to earth. He knew he would be taking too much risk by facing them directly (or he didn’t even know how much exactly risk he would be taking), so he gained their trust first and studied them, and then 20 years later when he realised it’s time and took them by surprise
Cecil: We need a way to defeat Omni Man
Battle Beast: Have you tried hitting him very hard?
Fr these niggas don’t know battle beast would wreck him
When Omni-Man saw Battle Beast about to kill Invincible he still didn’t want any of that smoke lol. Prepared to let his son die then tangle with him.
I think it was becouse he was disappointed in Mark's weakness more then anything, i didn't read the comic so i don't know if battle beast can actually defeat Omniman
@@whiteobama9366 ive heard some chatter from comic book readers and apparently battle beast is one of the strongest characters in that universe so I think it’s safe to say he was scared of battle beast
@@whiteobama9366 spoiler
Both omni man and battle beast fought the strongest viltrumite
Omni man got one shot in seconds-minutes but battle beast was able to fight for days against the viltrumites (general thragg) and thragg considered battle beast to be an equal due to how much difficulty it took to kill him
"The Green Ghost has incredible defence"
*Shows her face getting punched in*
I chuckled too hard.
@Frost Flurry She isn`t nearly as fast as Omni-man, nor as skilled as he. He would find a way to beat her in a one v one. There isn`t much she can do, but assist her team in defense, like Red Rush. Red Rush, imo, was the most important hero to have in helping to beat Omni-man. He just needed to assist the hard hitters and tanks on the team. They all had slim chances in beating him, but he dropped the ball hard. It all went down hill when he died...
She didn’t even try to duck either😂
@@Mozetty She was in shock. Omni-Man knew what he was doing when he threw the body at her.
@@90skidcultist I know
Rest in peace Guardians of The Globe, you all did not deserve that type of gruesome betrayal from Omni-man.
Bruh why do my favorite characters in animated shows get the most gruesome deaths. Poor Josef...
@@DreadnoughtDTon the first episode too…
@@LobsterCameramanProductions And after they just showed his love
Red rush could have carried Green ghost on his back, running around letting her phase war woman and immortal and the others to safety to dodge omniman's attacks
Holy shit I love this idea lol
Our just run into omni man and unphase inside him
@Keith Random Studio! sus
@Keith Random Studio! Immortal is immortal so no sacrifice?
@Keith Random Studio! what about immortal + green ghost
green ghost phases immortal so that omni man cant attack him, they get to omni man and then immortal puts his hand through omni man's brain or heart, and green ghost unphases immortal. boom, immortal's hand is gone, but omni man is seriously injured or possibly dead, but immortal grows his hand back
Red rush made Omni man cough up some blood, bruised his chest, probably broke some ribs. He also saved three of the gaurdians. Immortal, Aquarius, War woman. It is also worth noting maybe Martian man, could have been a little fatigued before the fight, because he was hitting up a new PR before the fight.
Unfortunately he had the worst death of all, his world passes by hours, so when Omni man was crushing his skull, it was hours of pain and agony for him.
Red Rush going in for melee is the worst decision in the fight. But this way is probably better, since he would have died one way or another and this way he didn't have to watch his friends get murdered in front of him
@@javinmel it's easy to mistake it for that, but what we see actually is what red rush saw see how slow he was punching and stuff? It was about half a minute for red rush when it was basically instantly for everyone else
@@runtergerutscht4401
Eh, but he should've had help, no one did anything for him, that's what was really sad
@@thalmoragent9344 they were charging towards them to help, but like eazykiel said time moves quicker for him so that moment must have been the most horrendous torture lasting hours! definitely would have stood a chance & that's why he took them out, as earth strongest heroes & the rest is spoilers for peeps that still haven't finished & comics!
Red Rush should've just pinched Omniman's nibbles insted of punching his chest
Hell yeah
Ah that's hot
I came
@@rickroll1722 ayo bruh
If he started to punch his face instead of his chest, chances are Omni-man coul've loosen the grip a little. I'm not saying Omni-man couldn't tank those punches, but getting punched repeatedly at supersonic speeds in the face, for someone like him, would've been an extreme nuisance. And even if Red Rush ended up dying anyway, I imagine omniman more fucked up and easier to take on. His sight would probably off; his nose, definitely broken, which could case breathing difficulties, and probably a good ol' concusion. Now that's better for the remaining guardians than a few broken ribs.
Comics spoilers:
In a one off story arc where Mark gets sent to the past, and warns the Guardians, they are able to knock Omni man out and restrain him, so that Cecil can lock him up.
the good ending
@@s_0lace But then the Viltrumites attack.
@@hiiambarney4489 Omni-Man was locked up and the world was at peace, but everything changed when the Viltrumites attacked
They would still have Mark on their sides, and the Guardians, and could prepare for an invasion of Viltrumites (recruiting more people)... although according to Nolan of the future at begining they would only send 3 or 4.
@@-18 Mark didn't keep his powers, just his knowledge. He was like old Mark, just with knowledge of the future - and old Mark lost to Omni Man pretty easily.
I feel like red rush could have just wrapped omiman’s cape around his head to blind him, then let the other guardians do the hitting for a while.
“the green ghost has incredible defense”
*proceeds to showcase her death*
He used her body to defend against the water-
Yeah but if you just kept her cool it would have ended either way they did stupid things just for the story to progress so yeah
@@Cobblestone8_alt_account shes a new hero,most people would most likely do the same cuz of instinct
Don't worry, Green Ghost will return as Dead Woman just like Dead Man in DC Universe. All we need is a ghost to possess a Viltrumite even Superman was controlled by Dead Man... *Ghostfreak can too.*
Lmao right?
If War Woman would have just picked up her hammer and wailed on Omni Man while Martian Man had a hold of Omni Man for the second time they would have probably won.
@@garryjohnson9328
Omniman literally almost had an eye popped out when WarWoman hit him with it. It might not be Mjolnir, but it's still a blunt weapon that can handle super strength.
@@garryjohnson9328
Think they changed it up in the cartoon because the whole motiv for killing them is because they are supposed to be a legit threat to the viltrumite invasion... When the whole idea that Nolan can just kill them all effortlessly pretty much contradicts that alleged fact.
So War Woman being able to do some serious damage to Nolan isn't just for shockvalue, it's also to show how dangerous the Guardians of the Globe can be.
My bad on spelling viltrumite wrong
@@garryjohnson9328
But this logic involves ignoring the stuff we actually see on screen. There might not be any mention that the mace is magical, but we get to see in action that it is durable enough for WW to bash someone as tanky as Omniman repeatedly without getting as much as a dent. This would imply that the material that the mace is made of is super durable, and the fact that WW can hit Nolan hard enough to not just bruise but also give him concussions, implies that WW is strong enough to be a threat.
Also, although Viltrumites are indeed high tier in the universe, they are not entirely invincible. Their whole strategy of infiltrating foreign planets to weaken their defenses to prepare for bigger invasion forces, kinda highlights that.
@@garryjohnson9328
Ps, don't worry about the typos, it happens.
Given how things go in the comics later on, it IS possible they could have won with enough preparation. The surprise element of his assault as well as the sheer shock of the betrayal as well as his brutality really gave him the edge here.
3:20 Red Rush saves 3 of his teammates from attacks. He also deflected a punch to save the Wonder Woman knockoff also.
Everyone is gangster until their head gets smashed like a grape.
🍉
@@Aaa-oz3lx that’s a watermelon
@@pablogomesoliveira2677 very good analogy mr. obvious
either you karate do yes, or karate do no.
these guys karate do guess so, they got the squish
just like grapes
@@bumsicle27 that's a watermelon
Let's remember that Omniman can destroy heads in an instant, Red Rush did as much damage as he did in less than a second. He could also deflect Omniman's punches. Playing defensive until the right moment would have allowed Red Rush to knock out Omniman, with a lot of broken bones, but alive.
I think Red Rush's sole focus should've actually been damage control. He broke his arms punching Omniman, but could move Guardians out of harm's way all day. He is faster and has more advanced perception than Omniman, but not nearly as durable or strong, so *any* strike at Omniman directly is way too risky.
@@bearistotle2820
Nah.
I think Omniman was crushing his skull so hard and by the time he started to punch with his wrists, his brain wasn't even responding right
Yeah, he should of been defensive, but I think it just didn't cross his mind that Omni Man would be able to catch him.
I mean he indeed was faster than Omni Man. Much faster, as it seemed, and he knew that. He knew that he was faster, and perhaps got a bit too cocky.
@@blame7121
Yeah, he wasn't an idiot necessarily, I would just try to help in a way that makes it so I spend as little time near Omniman as possible, but this is me with hindsight.
@@bearistotle2820 yeah you gotta keep in mind that they were caught off guard and definitely didn’t plan to be fighting omniman, red rush was probably thinking “I’m way faster than him, he can’t catch me”.
So basically guardians of the globe is a poor man's justice league
Some things I think should be noted:
1, before red rush dies, it isnt framed as a kill omniman situation, but a *subdue* at most situation.
2, They more than likely are shocked and tired, Martian Man stretching himself to his personal limit, Green Ghost in the middle of something. Plus the shock of watching your friends being brutally murdered by another friend hurts.
3, They are still confused seeing omniman, a friend, doing this. Until they realize its them or omniman, they dont decide to go for the kill. Even the last thing anyone says in the scene is, "Why?"
They are confused and until the very end, not trying to kill him.
Here’s the strategy: Get a bible. Start praying. Cause you’re gonna meet god.
OMG IM DEAD🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣-wait, omni man? What are yo- oh.
LMAO
God of the Bible vs Omni-Man
@Sexist Shukla I didn't need to see that
@@digitalcamaro9708 what is it
Cecil is Batman. His prep time says so. The outfit doesn’t say Batman like the IQ
Exactly.
that's true but you can't argue that darkwing isn't literally a direct copy of batman lol
Cecil is Amanda Waller
Darkwing is the most useless Batman I've ever seen
@@oxaardyan agreed
3:20 you know, I didn't realize the first time that red rush death was happening so fast, I thought he had some form of enhanced durability and that his ally took a super long time to help him but actually it's all from his perspective where his head gets crushed instantly but it takes ages for him... this is horrifying actually.
I think the fact that one of their "friends" turned on them was a big shock, and probably caught them off guard. Along with the trauma of the death of their other friends
If they had been more prepared; Aquarus, Green Ghost, and Martian Man should resorted to more savage biological attacks. Aquarus should have attempted to remove Omni man's fluids to weaken him while he's being physically attacked. Green Ghost should have attempted to phase through Nolan and disrupt his brain or heart. Martian Man should have attempted to enter Omni Man through his nose or ear canal and attack his brain and/or respiratory organs. Anyways, great video! I enjoyed your assessment. 😊
Smart, that fighting style reminds me of blood bending
Aquaris I don't think can control another persons fluids he can only produce water from his body. Green ghost could've easily killed Omni man as you said phase through him. Martian man puts himself in extreme danger wrapping around Omni man like that. If you re-watch the fight scene Omni man tried multiple times to grab his weak spot meaning he already knew how to kill him.
@@controlman7490 that last part makes me remember how well Omni-man was prepared.
He exploited everyone's weaknesses, he went full Batman on them
@@controlman7490 the only real exploit he didn't do was to graverob the immortal and to hide his body parts in different parts of the world, although he maybe didn't know he'd come back
Well is his organs weak or are they strong like him
It’s sad to see a hero group murdered just because Omni man needed pictures of Spider-Man immediately.
haha so original
@@lousassole3145 wow thanks man :D I’m totally the first to make this joke. In all seriousness though, I just enjoy the comparisons way too much :P
@@canadiancanucklehead8310 I wonder why Omni Man/JJJ needs SpiderMan pictures, what kind of stuff he does to those pictures...
It's very well possible that the guardians can subdue Omniman, possibly without Mark's help, but they definitely lacked coordination. Martian Man was the most critical member in the attack alongside Aquarus, because they were capable of suppressing him for a good length of time. Martian Man could've tried to put his heart somewhere out of reach of Omniman, meaning the only way he could break out would be to brute force it like last time. Should Omniman break free, Aquarus just needs to hit him with the water jet until he can be bound up again. War Women was probably the heaviest hitter because of her weapon, but she completely abandoned it in the fight. If she managed to keep using it while Omniman was tied up, she could beat him to a pulp. Green Ghost could've shoved him partway through the floor to help immobilize him further. The Immortal could've helped with the pummeling or assist in suppressing him with his super strength. Red Rush can help to move allies out of the way of danger, same with Green Ghost. Darkwing is almost useless here except for some gadgets to stun, plus whatever utilities that might help tie him down.
Spoilers ahead.
I never read the comics, but from what I understand, there was some kind of "reset" where Mark got thrown back into the past and had his age reversed accordingly, but maintained his memories. He immediately confronted his father and ousted him as a conqueror, causing him to attack. Mark lured him to the Guardians base and together with the rest of the team, took him down.
That was a straight up awesome analysis of the show man!
Red rush actually saved three of the guardians. When War woman is fighting Omni-man Red rush quickly deflects one of Omni mans punches so that War woman doesn’t get hit.
I caught that too, it’s so fast you barely realize it
Makes sense why Omni Man got him first. Keep Red Rush around and the guardians would've stood a chance.
If he hadn’t tried to fight Nolan on his own they could have won the fight
“He knows all of their weaknesses”
Yeah, getting punched at mach 20
lol
Mach 20 ain't a thing
@@gabrieljesse7553 mach 20 is a thing and a military aircraft actually managed to reach it and hold on to it for 3 minutes
Not really. Aircrafts have only been able to achieve mach 3
@@gabrieljesse7553 back in 2011 a darpa unmanned aircraft reached mach 20 look up the article its a good read
Good analysis. I completely agree. Since I first saw the show I've thought that the Guardians weren't very coordinated in their strategy because, each being pretty strong themselves, they never had to rely on teamwork to win before. So Red Rush was kinda the closest thing to a team player, same as in the opening fight at the White House.
Actually, Red Rush saves three members. If you look closely when Omni Man starts attacking War Woman, he blocks one of Omni Man's attacks that would have killed War Woman. If you pause at like 2:35 you can see it
If Green Ghost would have decided to just phase his spine, bones like his legs and/or arms, or even his organs out of his body, the fight would have been over.
Just phase a hand in omni man's head and make it solid might lose a hand but kills omni man
@@matthewboyce2295 not necessarily, she can practically choose what to phase and what not to phase, like being phased on walking on the ground
@@khoseftadros2775 she could phase people into the ground phase through a building and means can phase through a person means hand phase into omni man's head if she wants to but she didn't think about that because she was shocked to see her friends die.
@@matthewboyce2295 considering her line of work, fighting aliens and her life being endangered because of it, that’s kind of a lousy excuse considering everyone else was at least doing something, she literally did nothing nothing at all
@@khoseftadros2775 no because if your dad started to kill your family you would either be to shocked to do anything or you would run she did the first one.
Honestly, Red Rush should've been virtually undefeatable - they explicitly take the time to say he perceives time at a slower rate than the rest of us, which means he should have had all the time in the world (from his perspective) to see Omni-man raise his hand to catch his punch. I sincerely think it's just an oversight; a lot of authors severely underestimate speedsters in fights
Yeah speed is never consistent in fiction lol.
Everyone here was in absolute shock though, so at least it's not complete bullshit.
that is so true
He was already committed to the punch, how was he supposed to eliminate all the momentum he had already built up? If anything, seeing omni-man move his hand to catch him just informed him how fucked he was.
@@playmsbk The guy rapidly changes directions and stops on a dime constantly - it's a valiant effort, but I'm not sure this excuse does it
@@Aburaishi Yeah I feel you. I'm still convinced he couldn't have done that, but with nothing but a single fight to showcase the guardians' abilities we can't ever be sure about the extent of their abilities, so it could go both ways really.
“Green ghost’s thiccness can be utilised as an advantage” -Sun Tzu art of war
Lol
Love this! Great take on 1 on 1,and individual strength
I think Red Rush would also count as a heavy hitter, since he left bruises on Omni-Man's chest. He would aid War Woman and The Immortal while Martian Man wraps around Omni Man.
He should have wrapped around Omni Man's wrists like handcuffs. Hell, he should have turned into some sort of five point bondage shape that wraps around each wrist, each ankle, and his neck.
The thing about red rush is: he's fast, yes, but his durability is nothing to brag about. When hitting a harder object, even if he uses many weak punches instead of a few strong ones, it will damage his hands.
His despair attack did really harm Omni-man yes, but it also completely broke his arms.
He cannot do any real damage to Nolan without breaking himself, too.
Except for going for the eyes. He could go for the eyes.
Keep in mind doing so broke both of his hands
@@le_mothman he only broke them because of his desperation, he would've been fine otherwise
@@aster9376 but he also only did so much damage because of that desperation
The reason they lost was lack of strategy, lack of preparation. They literally could have won but they did not have contingency plans, like Batman. They should've known that a being as powerful as omniman could one day be a threat, but they didn't
Just goes to show how much they trusted him
@@sanguineregis5354 that's why it's good batman doesn't really trust anyone and has a plan for everyone when they step out of line.
@@isaiah5627 Every superhero team needs someone like Batman
No one was even wondering why he didn't want to join the guardians and no one even made a background check about who he is and where he came from and that's why they got killed by a wolf in sheep's clothing.
@MAGAT slayer i did hear about omni man lying bout his story idk haven't watched the show but always gets recommended some analysis
I like how dark wing is just black Batman + silver surfer
Great telling of the story can’t wait till season two
A main part that the show emphasizes, especially with the new guardians of the globe, is that team work is key. What I’m saying is, if the team had worked together, red rush would’ve still been alive and the team may have survived.
The old GOTG worked really well together. The new guardians would have died in seconds, which is why Cecil kept them on the bench. Of course their abilities are quite ill suited for a planet menace so I don't blame them but they hardly worked wonders together as a team.
I like the show fight much better than the comic version. He kills the whole team in less than 2 pages in the comic and you almost wonder why he bothered if they were such a breeze to kill. In the show, we see the guardians as a serious threat to omni-man and once we knows he wants to conquer Earth, it makes much more since why he needed them eliminated
Spoiler for later chapters of the comic so don't read any further if you don't want to be spoiled:
In a spin off of sorts, the guardians do beat omniman. And without losing a single member. But this time they were prepared. So it's only because Nolan attacked while they were unprepared that they were beaten so easily.
He literally just speed blitzed them while their guard was down in the comics. Not really comparable
@@papaofthejohns5882 and if i remember correct he still needed red rush dead first
Ya, Spoilers but in another Timeline the Guardians DO beat him when Mark warns them that Omni-Man is coming. So the element of surprise is literally the only reason Omni-Man was able to stomp the Guardians the first time around.
Darkwing - Batman
Immortal - Superman
War Woman - Wonder Woman
Red Rush - The Flash
Green Ghost - Green Lantern
Martian Man - Martian Manhunter
Immortal is more like wolverine.. From x man
Yep. All the characters resemble the powers of the DC characters with only difference Superman being way stronger than Immortal. Given that, Superman could defeat Omni-Mam!
Immortal is vandal savage, if you look at his backstory flashes when he is being revived
Immortal is more like Lobo (DC Comics)
Immortal is not superman.
good video, my left ear really enjoyed it
"Now that your friend is dead is no time to think use it as a meat shield"
-Cinema summary probably
Have a damn good day
martian man simply needed to keep his red dot ( probably his brain) in between omni man’s shoulder blades as his body builder physique couldn’t reach it. You can see how nolan couldn’t reach the tentacle on his back after Mark pointed it out
I’ll just randomly think this exact thought. They really coulda taken him out(I also always thought it was his heart. But it being his brain makes more sense)
@@Highminded12 lets be real they were never gonna beat Omni-man😂
I think omni man consistantly trying to break free moves him around cause he would have to consistantly straining
i think that's probably his heart, not his brain (if you slow down the part at 1:28 you can see my point)
@@eljefe9140 si lo iban a vencer, de hecho, en el cómic cuando mark viaja al pasado le advierte a los guardianes que se preparen para el ataque de omni-man ellos logran vencerlo con facilidad
I enjoyed the video, but I have to mention I respect how popular this channel is despite the flash era level microphone quality lol
Good analysis, im loving this show, can't wait for season 2
In the comic, there is an alternate timeline where the Guardians defeat Omni-Man without Aquarius.
Omni-Man couldn't jump the gun on fighting them in the alternate timeline fight, and they get the upper hand on him.
Poor Aquarius
can’t wait to see the alternate version in the show
Spoilers:
They had invincibles help with that. Also, if Omni-man just cut the lights like he did in the comics I think it would've been almost as one-sided as then.
@@abdullahelnaas4473
Well they also had concrete proof he had gone off the deep end, that being him chasing down a battered and bloodied invincible.
All invincible really did was show and tell them what was going on with Omni-Man. The only thing they needed to know to have a shot at winning was that they weren't fighting a brainwashed friend, but a full blown deceiver.
Mark:*Gets powers
Nolan to the Guardians:You know the rules & so do i...
Say goodbye
🔫
@@joegun4259 I don’t think a water gun will do a anything
@@shadowkiller7510 LOL
@@shadowkiller7510 the water gun shoots piss that would only melt viltrumites and arouse them
Terrific breakdown.
Well done.
It was actually really bad, even if you exclude any info from the comics, surely you can understand the fraction of his power shown ep 8 and how it is much much greater in comparison to the guardians
Now imagine if they used this strategy alongside Mark’s help
I'm really salty about Red Rush dying so freaking fast. He was by far the best member on that team. Red Rush could have probably been a greater challenge to Omni Man, but Red Rush still saw Nolan as his dear friend hence Red Rush tried light punches to knock him out... and Nolan just went straight for the kill.
lol uhhh Red Rush can only run fast. his punches are nothing BUT light. he has no other super powers
@@diegoaespitia pretty sure red rush broke some of omni man ribs or at least made omniman's lung bleed internationally. All things considered, he's pretty op.
@@alexlun4464 real flash would destroy omni man in a sec
Is just ironic the fastest member of the team is the first one who dies
@@alexlun4464 Omni-man said it himself in one episode "the guy can run fast. not much of a super power"
Idk, maybe darkwing could have done something to mess with his eyes and ears, making omniman a little easier to pin down.
But it’s only: spoiler
It’s only a very specific frequency that can kill them and where would he find the time to do any of those
Instead he went for a genius overhead sneak attack 😂 😂
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Seriously tho wtf was he trying to do?
@@user-mc3if9xs7w why spoil that randomly lmao
@@nubsity620 my bad
Imagine having the high ground and still getting absolutely destroyed
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If you ignore the theory that he let himself get so badly beaten its pretty cool and frustrating seeing how they could have actually beaten him if they were prepared for him. Red rush was vital in protecting his team but went in alone and got killed. Darkwing was effect at distracting and stunning him along with Aquarius. Then Warwoman and Immortal could have combo-ed better with Martin. But instead Red rush and Darkwing stupidly got killed and Green Ghost got caught in it then the rest fell like dominos
Green Ghost’s death is literally the stupidest shit ever. She should have just remained incorporeal for the entire fight. Even longer, to tell others what Omni-man did. Instead she stayed solid, which is how Omni-man killed her. She might as well have just been a regular human at that point.
She was in shock, scared and terrified
She literally saw one of her friends splatter her other friend like a Jackson Pollock painting all over the ground. Imagine if your a police officer and the chief of police shot one of your coworkers dead out of nowhere.
@@kekero540 she's literally a superhero who fights as a job, does Immortal piss himself when he sees blood kekw
@@graysonguinn1943 She just lost a friend and a loved one because one of her friends betrayed her trust. Its like your brother kills your mother in front of you with no remorse. Even if you are used to seeing blood and seeing people come and go as a superhero, superheroes can still be shocked when they lose someone near to them because it makes them realize that they can't save everyone as cliche as it may sound.
Grayson Guinn you didn’t read the comics but green ghost is new to the GotG, shes filling in an empty spot so she doesn’t have that much combat experience hence her freeze when she sees an ally kill 2 of her friends
Treat Omni-Man like a raid boss and divide the team amongst their skills. Red Rush for instance should not focus on attacks at all and should prioritize a support roll. He saved two Guardians already and could easily add to the longevity of the team by doing so, same with Green Ghost being able to phase other Guardians to ensure their safety. Martian Man, Aquarus, and Dark Wing lack heavy offensive power but all have a strong suppressive or distractive aspect to each of them, swapping between each suppressive tactic would suppress Omni-Man. Immortal and War Woman are the heavy hitters or DPS of the team and did the most damage to Omni-Man in the initial fight. Viltrumites seem weakest to blunt damage as well so aiming for the skull was effective, just that the whole team would be present that time around.
This was a very good video! Your scripting and voice are both great, if you get a better recording setup and some better background music this is professional quality!
The important thing to consider as well is that a lot of the team struggles to be useful because of the speed at which omni man moves. They are already well coordinated but you cant out strategize something you cant see
I feel like that's why he went for Red Rush and Immortal first. They were the only two on par with his speed, with Red Rush even being above it.
4:14
"The green ghost has an incredible defense"
*shows omni man brutally punch a hole through her head*
That’s durability or invincibility lol
If they just used the power of friendship they would've won
Yeah spikebama is spitting facts
The fight in any variation is just finished once red rush dies, his the best defense they had
great vid :D
I felt like Red Rush was the most crucial part of ensuring the Guardians' victory over Omni-Man, given his abilty to rescue everyone. Once he let himself get caught, they were picked off one by one and lost the edge they needed to win.
Had war woman given him her mace so he could hit harder and had the rest of the team been self-sufficient and avoiding omniman and not relying so heavily on him he could have taken on me man out on his own because he was straight up faster and stronger than him he only lost because he was distracted trying to save his friends
@@hollowdonte he was only faster, he wasnt anywhere near omi mans strength
And the problem with speedster is that if they hit the ennemie they dealer more damage but take more damage if they are hit
@@infect6521If he could learn infinite mass punch like Flash then Omniman would die
@@kblearner1528 no he wouldnt, he cant punch forever his hands broke when he was punching omniman, he couldnt keep up for longer
since Darkwing is their Batman analog, you'd think he would have been prepared for this, even if no-one else was
Nothing going to prepare you when you see the strongest hero on the planet catch a guy fast as lightning and pop his head like a grape
This is pretty much what would happen if Superman was the one that caught Batman off guard.
Not to mention the equivalent of Kryptonite doesn't exist
This is how Batman v Superman would _actually_ go no matter how "prepared" Batman was. You have to really really REALLY catch him off guard for Kryptonite to get close, and without a completely out of the blue ambush Bats just ain't gonna pull it off.
@@ItsMrChristmas lmao the thing is superman a good guy he wont kill batman, batman himself said it
"Deep down he a good person(superman) and deep down im not" - batman
Very nice breakdown
I don’t understand how he destroyed an entire alien civilization in such little time but here he takes so much damage to the point of unconscious
That wasnt little time. Their time relative to earths was different. He spent about 2 months there. But on earth it were a few minutes. He grew a beard there to prove it.
Heavily underrated, great analysis!
Another note I might add for Red Rush and his defense is just before omni man punches war woman you see red flash hit his fist I assume this is to stop the fist or atleast make it lose momentum. This is a great defense tool and sadly not used enough
Good catch.
It's a shame this doesn't work on crushing attacks
He caught them off guard. They were not expecting death from a friend
Tbh Darkwing as a Batman parody already should have came up with a plan to take Omniman down.
Red Rush should hold Green Ghost so they can save others when needed.
I thought the same thing, if darkwing used a smoke granade Red Rush could save everyone and regroup creating a strategy
So basically
Red rush&Green ghost-Defense
Immortal&War Woman-Meele offense
The rest distractions
And people say that videogames doesn't add anything, everyone on this comment section is more strategic intelligent than the guardians combined, me and my teammates on any game make better decisions
Real life is much harder to make decisions then in videogames
Aquarius and dark wing are support
@@LuisFelipe-pq9lr i wish i had coordination with my team in games
Cool video but the audio was dominant in the left part of my headset. Just for you to take note :)
Would love to see a round two of this fight.. With the guardians learning from their first fight.
NO ONE:
ABSOLUTELY NO ONE:
DARKWING: Tries to jump on Omni Man, as if he could do anything on top of him..lol
he wants the high ground
Actually, people are talking about that so cross out that "absolutely no one"
Not only that but he fucking yelled giving away his position 🤣
Like he was obviously trying for a sneak attack on him yet he goes and yells
Its discount batman what did u expect
@@ceratopsiandavedraws8548 You might need to read that again
The trick is getting him to stay still, war women’s mace takes a bit of time to swing, and if he could predict what Red Rush did, he probably studied how she attacked as well, and probably would have either dodged it or uppercut her as she raised her weapon to swing. If he stays still it becomes a lot easier, which is why the Martian is crucial to this fight
That's literally how he managed to get a hit on her. As she was swinging it left her wide open and he punched her before slamming her head into the ground.
I doubt he had to study how she attacked. His speed, strength, and martial arts advantage over her is already enormous. She couldn't even hit him from behind right before she died. Only seemed necessary to study the gimmicky powers like Green Ghost and the Martian. And also Red Rush because Red Rush is the only one actually better than him at anything. Studying for War Woman would be like a black belt studying to beat a white belt.
You know... why not give the mace to Red Rush?
He's probably more capable of catching Omni-Man off guard with it, and in all likelihood he should be able to essentially play a game of dark souls dodging/blocking long enough for green ghost to go for the disable.
@@justjoking5252 If Omni man can catch his fist he’d be asked to block the mace, and plus the guardians were caught with their pants down, meaning they had no time to plan and probably didn’t even think of that
4:57 Right here revealed his weakness from the ringing from that hit
Step 1: Darkwing retreats and call Cecil.