How China Is Taking Over The World Of Electric Cars
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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I live in the U.S., and... i'm OLD af. So i remember very well, in the 70's, NO ONE around me taking the influx of Japanese cars as a serious threat to the legacy U.S. automakers. Some of that was an automatic rejection of anything new, some of it was not-at-all-disguised racism. History is set to repeat itself. again.
In the 70s Chinese people were beaten up because people thought they were Japanese
As someone who never liked chinese cars and who now has been living in China for the last 2 years i can say that the cars are much better than you'd expect. Like they are better than the Japanese offerings for 1/3 of the price. I know people who sold Porsche suv's for a nio.
It is already happening
@@julianmorgan79 China wants to rule the world, we should stop buying them
@@julianmorgan79 I remember not too long ago when Chinese cars were poorly made, now they look like safe vehicles. American politicians (Mostly one party, since it's a stupid two party system) are so hell bent in keeping us relied on Gas they are failing to advance in tech while at the same time trying to scare us about China. It doesn't make sense
You said it right. We want affordable electric cars not e-trons for the price of a flat
That money will get you a sea container in London 😂
And the Chineese obviously know this. I hope the Government will not force them to raise prices so not to underrate Audi produces.
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I've heard of people say they'll never buy a tesla because they're made in china, then go and buy a polestar 2 or BMW iX3, oblivious to they fact they're Chinese built!! My model 3 LR is Chinese and it's far better than the American ones!!
I am a proud owner of a Polestar 2. I was under the impression that Polestar is just the EV division of Volvo. I.e. Swedish. I only recently come to be aware that Polestar is in fact 50% co-owned by Geely, a Chinese company. Talk about serendipity! I now own a car that marries the rich European heritage with cutting edge Chinese technology. Life is good!
Polestar is the sportier sister company to Volvo that was once the sporting tuner of Volvos (and still may be). The engineering is pretty much all Sweden for both but there is some platform sharing at Geely among brands. Polestar and Volvo both have plans to be all EV with Polestar being all-Ev starting with the Polestar 2. Polestar is now tuning cars in its British R&D division and doing some very interesting things with the upcoming Polestar 5, the production version of the Polestar Precept concept car. We won't see it until 2024 at the earliest, however.
Geely owns Volvo. But they still design the cars in Sweden
Do you know some dealers of electric vehicles who import cars from China
I brought a model Y cause it is literally half the price of an entry-level BMW X5 here in Shanghai.
So? It's worth half as much, correct? An X5 is two planets apart from Tesla in quality. Really??
@@trevorsutherland5263 no… not really
how do the NIO cars compare to the model Y?
@@trevorsutherland5263 even Elon has spoken about the quality difference between the US and Chinese Tesla, the panel gaps are correct, the fit and finish is simply superior inside and out.
Don’t get me wrong, the Chinese have made ICE vehicles that were absolutely terrible, but for some reason their views on quality for EVs is up there with the absolute best of them. Just take a look at some of the cars Rory mentioned and the quality speaks for itself.
@@trevorsutherland5263 yeah and a Model Y is not a competitor to an X5. Model X should be compared to an X5. So it makes sense with the price difference. I would take the X5 all day.
As a person who has test driven the BYD Han (dynasty name), xPeng P7, Ora Good Cat and NIO ES6 in Beijing, I was blown away by the quality. I just didn't expect it and at some specific parts they were even better than Tesla (model 3).
The good cat is such a easy one to drive (planned for female customers), xPeng exterior is top notch, BYD Han is just a miracle (especially interior) and NIO the fastest SUV I've ever driven with a really cool voice command system.
I really hope they debut in EUROPE and US as soon as possible, cause they're even cheaper than Tesla.
What ev company in china do you recommend?
Nio 👀👀👀👀👀
@@cent-ns1lm I personally like the NIO (even though it's a bit pricey compared to the others) and ORA Good Cat GT(好猫). A friend of mine, however, bought BYD Han a year ago and it's been pretty great, even in Winter. In the end, it all comes to personal taste.
@@umairahmad4711 That car man. It flies!!!
Yeah Elon is not a fool, he knew that China was the important market for him to build in, they have improved quality, reduced cost and always try to improve innovation and tech because they know it’s the inside of a vehicle that’s important, not the outside, nowhere else in the world would be that bothered about an OTA that gives you karaoke but, China not only love but then sell out the Tesla mic in less than a day 😂
All about giving customers what they want for good value.
Competition will only benefit other car makers. Making cars better and more affordable is the way to go.
Competition from the Chinese side of thing is good for customers, the Chinese EVs will force eu manufacturers to cut their profit margins or miss out on sales across the board as the Chinese will start very cheap, something that has worked for them in every sector of commerce they join.
Men your knowledge of this market is unbelievable, probably the most interestion video about Chinese EV's I've seen.
Keep it up you gain a new follower
I had a Chinese car when I lived in the domenican Republic I bought it new for 3000$ less that a Kia picanto ! It was a jac s2 similar as a Hyundai x35 in the 5 years I got it never had problems was really a good car did 95000km whit it ! I really wish we got them here in Spain I would buy one straight away
95,000 without a problem is great honestly though can we say the same after 200,000 or 300,000 KM’s like Toyota and Honda
@@omaralkayal7598 Lots of BYD taxis in China did more than 500,00 km without problem in China.
I've started to see more and more Chinese cars over the years, here in DR, they're usually new models that look really cool but you don't pay much attention to, 5 years ago you could look at a parking lot and not find a single Chinese, yet nowadays you might find two or three, maybe it's because cars are getting super expensive everywhere in the world and Dominicans like to have new cars, and with what you can get a 2015 car you could get a 2021 really good looking and modern Chinese car.
@@zeminoid I know I got a mg now here in Spain because I was very happy whit my jac s2 in the dr
I'm glad to see that these companies are making affordable electric cars. Flagships like the Taycan are nice, but for EVs to gain mass adoption, they need to be affordable
Having a supply of decent used EV's on the market also helps too... There are even now dealers in the UK who sell only used EV's
As a Canadian, I will probably witness hell freezing over before seeing any of these in local dealerships.
Thank God.
China's long term plan seems to be paying off.
I get all my thrills from my motorcycle these days, so when I get a new car next year it will most likely be an affordable Chinese EV.
They make a compelling case.
In China, the price of 1 kw of electricity is 0.07 €, and an average of 18 kw can drive 100 km. My electric car has been with me for more than a year。My last car was an e89 Z4 28i, 12l/100km.
And the average salary is 1usd per day.
Drove an ORA Good Cat here in Thailand. Really impressed with the quality. Especially when a Mini electric here is near 50,000 UK pounds.
Electric Mini have pathetic range compared to ORA Good Cat which less than half the price.
May I know how much does ORA Cat cost in Thailand?
@@kgm9595 1.1 million Baht but with 150,000 Gov grant 850,000 or 25,000 US dollars.
Excellent vid with great info at the end of the day it’s all going to come down to price.
A decent electric car that’s genuinely big enough for the family is out of reach for most people,so if people can get lots of kit and decent range then it’s obvious what’s going to happen.
It seems nobody learnt when the Japanese bike makers cleaned up in such a short space of time.
Yeah back in the day when American automakers banked on the idea that the car buying public will " buy what we build", Germany, Japan and Sweden proved them VERY WRONG and the American car industry has NEVER been able to catch up.
This time it will be the same for the rest of the world, China will provide good quality EVs with good range, at an affordable price and with good guarantees on vehicles and battery pack life.
The Dacia Spring in the EU is the Renault KZE built in China cost 8000 dollar in China, 18.000 euro in the EU. Profit and protection for EU Car Industry.
most families(where i am from) have 2 cars(or more if the kids are old enough). so if a car is relatively cheap and saves the money on gas, they might just go for it. not every car needs to cover every concievable need the person or their family might have.
@@yvs6663 Really true here in Oceania 👌. Thats why MG cars here are selling very well
There's actually more chinese brand ev models that you haven't heard of but gaining a lot of ground in China. A lot of startups or subsidiary that are focusing and making new Chinese ev cars.
There are around 300 Chinese EV makers....
While other brands build EV for now, Chinese build them for the future
Yup, already planning ahead for when you need to buy a new one in 6 months.
BYD will likely be the big winner, as they're the most vertically integrated company and have been making batteries for longer than Tesla has existed; they started out making batteries for your Grandad's Nokia, and they have the advantage of most people not knowing who they are, so they can come in and make a huge splash which they will likely do when the Han is released (because...well, just look at it). They're also launching in Australia in the next few months, and will be selling the Yuan from $35k (300km, 400km for $40k). This undercuts everyone, including the $45k MG ZS, and is nearly half the price of a Tesla Model 3 ($65k average on carsales/carsguide). That Warren Buffet also invested in them back in 2008 is also going to do a lot for their credibility.
Tesla and BYD are two undisputable leaders of EV sector
Or NIO
In 2023 here, Tesla now buys their battery from BYD for their models. Reminds me few years ago Elon laughed at BYD on a TV show, he should really check on his car quality now with BYD by comparison.
I've already got one, MG5. So far can't fault it.
Just sold our MG ZS EV.. fantastic Car (except for a leaking door seal). Possibly the best car I have owned...
Getting the Chinese built Tesla Model Y on 1st March .
I don't worry or doubt the quality of build.. the Chinese built iPhones, Lenovo etc . They do technology very well👍👍
Seriously amazing hoody there 👍 Inevitable really, while the legacy European motor manufacturers saw EV tech as a threat, Chinese companies saw yet another opportunity.
Yeah, and small towns and villages in Europe are crying out for quiet small cars that are easy to maneuver on roads originally built for animal drawn conveyences,
also easy to park in limited parking areas.
@@jeromemercurio5407 it’s ironic that those types of villages with those roads would suit the Kcar EVs perfectly, nobody makes them better than the Chinese.
Nio's market cap is at 33.6B USD whereas Toyota's is at 311.4B USD.
How did you come up with Nio being worth 66B USD and 20% more than Toyota?
He talked about a specific year
Xpeng produces some of the best looking EVs I have seen on the road, much better than Tesla. I started out skeptical but the more Chinese cars I see the better they seem to be getting.
I've only seen them in pictures. They're great looking. NIO's sedans are nice looking as well.
Tesla is still more efficient and better to drive
@@haoruchen4216 I would disagree. I'm in Shanghai and own a model 3. I've test driven a P7 and as an average consumer (I'm not an enthusiast) I had a very positive experience with the Xpeng.
I'm not in the market right now but my next purchase is probably going to be a Chinese EV barring some disaster.
China also dominates the entire battery supply chain ;)
Er, no they don't..... Around 40% of the lithium mined currently comes from Australia. LG, Panasonic and Samsung are not Chinese controlled companies, and all produce battery cells for EV's. There are also now a number of EV battery manufacturing plants in Europe, including the UK. There are also large lithium deposits in Brazil, South Africa, the US, Canada, Chile, Russia, China and Cornwall in the UK.....
@@Brian-om2hh And where does Aussie spodumene (hard rock 6% lithium) go? To be refined in China.
I love that you always end your uploads with "Peace..." 💖
Looks like we don't really get a choice
Great video mate
Battery swapping makes sense in so many ways not just quick and convenient ,, you dont suffer the cost of defective or aged batteries .
Ps yes I know we all pay in the end 😎👍😂
You have a very likeable manner Rory which comes across on camera.
I'm on with buying a Chinese car if they bring one or two of those tiny affordable electric cars to Ireland. I don't need a big or medium sized car. I just need something to bring me around , bring my small dog to the forest or beach and to go to the shops
Makes me think about the first 1970-ish Civic. More than a decade later my close friend and great bass player got one while most of us were on, well, the muscle cars that still exist. Whether or not modern. There exists a space for all of this evolution as long as they meet safety regulations. One of my big concerns is battery safety while charging. Lots of "Burning down the house" with the scooters. And yes. China will rule some of this tech and wait until you see and can report on the next level. Great post as usual, Rory. Keep informing the masses as this is your work and thankful for you doing it.
NIO is amazing. Also Rory and the gang Lotus has partnered with NIO as their electric sensai. Big tings coming and will be based off the NIO ES8
30 years ago Korean auto industry was mocked, now they are industry leaders. 10 years ago China was, lets face it, producing garbage vehicles but now with the EV's they have found their lane and seem to really be leaping ahead of the rest.
In my opinion, the global supply chain of auto parts, including the essential components such as the EV battery packs is altering the manufacturing origin that the car brand itself couldn't recognize. The truth is all about value for money. Majority of EV buyers, particularly in the age group 25-35, being them Europeans, Asians or Americans are not car connoisseurs like their granddad. They just want a means of transport from point A to B, at low running cost and with a big Iphone built in to use and be entertained along the way. China is surely in pursuit for this new and high growth EV market, domestic and export simply with their own huge production of battery packs. Renewable Energy and Green Engineering is China national policy. Look at their solar power PV and energy storage device production and export volume. They mean business with big number investments in R&D. No more crap product like in the 70's. Both Japanese and Koreans experienced that at their early stage of learning curve. Aren't we all did?
Very informative. Your the only guy out their doing these pieces. We aren't all mindless petrol heads so thanks 😁
Exactly, I prefer the American term Gearhead to Petrolhead because that's encompasses electric vehicles as well as petrol vehicles.
As long as it's a fun cool car I don't care what it's powered by.
Chinese built Tesla are of better quality than american built ones.
Right now in the UK I think the long range MG ZS has to be the one to beat. That being said I'm really hoping the ES8 comes to the UK sooner rather than later, so much positivity around it out of Norway.
That NIO ES line up is quite expensive. Doubt it will be good value, but very nice car.
@@Neojhun yeh the MG and the NIO are at different ends of the spectrum but I'd still like to see them come to the UK
It isn't necessarily the one to beat if you value an established brand, well developed driving dynamics, and sound quality though Kenny.... For similar money I'd take the ID3 personally. That 70 to 80 miles fewer range is of much less importance to me. I'd prioritise VW's 80 odd years of building cars over more range, as I have no regular requirement to cover journeys of more than 50 to 60 miles from my home.
@@Brian-om2hh LOL The ID3 is a quality control and reliability joke. "prioritise VW's 80 odd years of building cars" is pointless and worthless. That MEB platform is currently a execution clusterfrack. They might nail it on the 2nd generation but soo far it's a mess.
Something Western auto journalists leave out is that they're not only taking on EV sector but normal ICE car segment in Pakistan. The value they offer vs the price vs the competitors who had a monopoly is unrivaled and unprecedented.
I was like that and wouldn’t have bought a Chinese car. We live in Qatar and bought a Geely. It was cheap to buy but it has so much tech and build quality has been greatS
We are not in "Europe" anymore so we could easily reduce safety levels that have quite frankly become a money spinner for manufacturers but do little for actual safety in numbers saved per £ spent. We don't want racing car safety we want cheap cars.
I said the same thing in another channel's comment section. When the Chinese EVs arrive, it won't go down well for Europe's OEMs. The only one who will come out unscathed seems to be Tesla.
However the premium section will still be ruled by the German manufacturers.
Not gonna lie, these Chinese manufacturers have more potential than the more established ones. And the thing with China is that not everything that comes out of there is trash; if you want to build something good you do it in China, if you want to build something cheap you do it in China.
The Chinese Phone Aka IPHONE is also very famous around the world 🗺
Great Video, and Yes China will be the number one Manufacturer of Electric Transport and Battary tech for the next 5-10years.
还有上游的：清洁能源发电，长距离高压低损耗输电，电能储存。按照目前的速递，5-10年后，世界会有清洁能源革命。
Can you eventually test drive NIO or BYD in the future? Thank you for the very informative video
Really looking forward for cheap Chinese Mini Cars.
Also the BYD A1 Dolphin will be a great compact car plus their blade battery is simply innovative.
Many European manufacturers have a rocky road up ahead, not every car maker will make it.
Exploitation is coming to an end=they better have a plan=the coming energy crisis for EU will tell the tale=are they gonna be able to offer "less consuming" =as well as alternative heating solutions for the people?
Fun fact: BYD is also staring to make surgical masks and N95 mask during the pandemic, and they earned a lot by this mask business
BYD is a big corporation, not just cars. It starts as a battery factory and now they have many different businesses.
Problem - reaction - solution
Nio is the brand to look for. Everything it does is pure class
Oh yeah....the new electric London Cab/van variant....Geely again!....
The ORA's gonna be selling in Jamaica soon
I have to disagree that just because somethings built in China it's then Chinese. Most of the cars Mercedes sells are not built in Germany does that mean Mercedes is not German? Same goes for BMW, Audi, hell you look at a lot of big Swiss name brands when it comes to watches. Same exact same thing there. It's more about where a products designed than where it's built. Apple is the perfect example of this. Built in the same sweatshop as every other piece of tech, but the end result is VERRY different! To say somethings x because of where it is built completely ignoring where it was designed, where all the actual decisions were made is so telling .1% of the story.
I don't think he means that at all, it seems like he was trying to address those Anti-Chinese or folks that support boycott Chinese made etc etc.
Then for those folks, it is impossible as Chinese are making everything and you may not even know it.
You need to be living in a card board box to fully practice what you preach with boycott China products.
Best motoring journalist by a mile. Go for it
Hope that a review of the Xpeng P7 can be done sometime. I'm considering buying the Wing Door Performance version as I live in China where it's easier to buy. The Tesla Model 3 is hugely popular here, but the Xpeng P7 just looks so much nicer to me.
The host of this channel is truly excellent, so I'd love to see his thoughts on the P7 if he is able to get to Norway or somewhere in Europe where he can review the P7. Getting into China right now would be nigh impossible unfortunately. So many nice electric cars coming out here.
Informative and interesting within EV genre. There are views, debates with decisions to be made by consumers regarding electric over combustion engine, raw material sourcing ethics to construct EV batteries along with manufacturing and workforce nationalism or globalism with the auto industry, which fundamentally means the consumer needs to chose between ethics or price. Looking at most other manufactured good, I could take a good guess which one people will choose!!!
Customers will mostly choose the Chinese option as the more German option even if built in China with equal quality will have a higher price tag. Take the ix from bmw, as mentioned, made in China and priced by the Germans starting at £61,000, a fully badged Chinese EV will have just as good quality and probably better range for around 50% of that price. I definitely wouldn’t blame anyone for choosing the Chinese option when European manufacturers are pushing that much profit in a vehicle, and I’d call myself a bit of a bmw fanboy being as I’ve 6 and on my 7th currently, but there is no way I’d choose badge over better value when it comes to an EV, you simply choose the side that gives value for money from a company that puts the tech and gadgets in the car without boosting the price for the pleasure.
@@WEZ4136 I partly agree with you and simply replied because I too am a somewhat bmw-fanboy(only on my 3rd one now).What sparked my interest about your comment is merely why you would choose to prioritize value over let’s say ‘badge-appeal’ on an EV but not your other vehicles. Surely you could find better value that those 7 bmw’s you’ve owned, but you chose not too. What makes you think other buyers won’t do the same, as you clearly say customers will choose the Chinese option.
Not attacking your comment, merely interested in your contradictory thought process...
This was enjoyable. Looking forward to seeing more EV's flooding the market in the near future.
Volkswagen did a remarkable sales campaign with the Beetle, small, fuel efficient, and fun to drive with 4 speed short throw transmission, and then an automotive avalanche happened, enveloping the Detroit car makers.
EV 's do nothing for me.
Soulless golf karts.
@@sahhull Golf carts that have exceeded the performance of 120 year old ICE technology within 10 years 😂
@@bid84 If my theoretical ev breaks down while I'm getting firewood or moving livestock I'm fucked. If my ICE powered truck breaks down while I'm doing any of that I can generally get it back on the road in an hour.
@@lucasward9506 You are in luck Lucas, EVs have only a fraction of failure points compared to ICE. EVs don’t break down, for instance ..no starter motors, transmission, clutch, overheating, oil or coolant leaks, timing belt or chain failures… etc I could go on.
I have watched multiple videos from this guy. I just like him because of the quality of his videos. Well done. Thanks.
They have mine, model 3 RWD , quality is 9 out of 10 👍
Tesla is an American company, doesn't matter that the car model is made in China. The German Tesla factory is opening soon, so by the same logic Tesla's made there are German in that case.
One review I saw of the Ora Cat said that quality wise it made the VW ID3 look like a plastic box!
The Chinese are seemingly still fairly accomplished at producing plastic boxes. That horrible Land Rover Evoque copy , along with copies of other European designed vehicles are proof enough of that....
@@Brian-om2hh Dude people like you will become old grumpy men in the future
@@sophisticatedthumb5364 He's name is Brian, he's already an old grumpy man.
@@Brian-om2hh Plastic boxes that are cheap and reliable are better than hunks of junk that are not.
I am ALL IN on BYD. They are a powerhouse
😃😃😃 Thanks for this entertaining video. containing valuable Information as well. GREAT!
I live in Iceland and drive a Made in China Tesla Model Y, it doesn’t suffer from any of the panel gap issues or any other obvious manufacturing flaws. I would prefer a Berlin Tesla in future but they still have to prove themselves in build quality
But it's still a tesla tho 😂
@@hieroglyph321 You mean it's a great car. Got it.
Informative and interesting, I will add I already knew this as I’m an Electric Viking subscriber. I am somewhat disappointed you fail to mention the CATL guarantee on their battery packs of 500,000 KLM and degradation promises to maintain 60+% over that distance. SAIC just got a huge battery production plant up and running in the last 3 months of 2021 to enable them to supply Tesla.
There's a lot more he missed in regards to Tesla other than that. In fact, the model Y is about to be off his list because Giga Berlin will produce the model Y, the Fremont plant in CA produces the model Y and Giga Austin will produce the model Y. So, is will be a local vehicle wherever you live, except the UK since they aren't part of the EU. Also, Tesla is manufacturing their own 4680 batteries, for most their vehicles as they ramp up production. Each new plant for BEV also produces the 4680, so Berlin and Austin both, and Tesla is expanding 4680 production on their own in the US. They're going to use Panasonic to create a high charge capacity 4680 to compete with 1000KM vehicles coming out the end of this year or early next year.
From reports I’ve seen and heard Giga Texas will be the first to run the 4680 as the structural battery in the Y, that should make it 20% (ish) better range and around 13% better performance, that comes from a mix of the new cells and better efficiency. Tesla shares will be looking even better by the end of this year. 👍
@@WEZ4136 I'm pretty sure that whatever vehicle the 4680 goes into, it will be incorporated into a structural battery pack. It's designed to be part of one.
But, it will probably be part of other devices too, such as grid storage or a powerwall. Just guessing since Tesla is contracting this out to different companies.
I don't know about how it affects performance. I guess since the vehicle is lighter, yes, but then I would also think it best for Tesla not to use the same parts for that vehicle or it's over-engineered. If you're going to reduce the vehicle weight to me it makes sense to scale back the motor(s), drive shaft, suspension and whatever else you can to maximize efficiency and minimize cost. But without knowing the weight difference that the pack alone brings, it's hard to know if those other changes would matter much. The actual output is similar to the 2170 if you consider volume, in fact it's less (1 4680 has the volume of 5.5 2170s), but it holds a charge similar to 6 2170s and I assume part of that is not having a tab getting in the way.
I really want to see a comparison of the two vehicles to know what Tesla did in going to this new battery/pack. I also want to see this new tech and listen to how it stacks up against other new battery tech, and then see what Panasonic can do with it since they're contracted to improve the power capacity (mAh) of it for a longer range car for Tesla to compete with the 1000KM vehicles coming out the end of the year or early next year.
You forgot Lync & Co.
iam chinese , i like BYD and tesla
So glad I found your video! I am moving to mainland China and selling a Nissan Leaf in Hong Kong and was trying to figure out if I could/should take it with me but after watching your video I will have many choices to stay electric in China and I can try something new!
Another great informational video. I had no idea about any of these points.
I'm actually planning to buy the MG ZS EV this year. I really liked test driving it and I just think it's a great bang for buck.
Legacy Auto were hesitant to transition to EV because sales for ICE vehicles was/is still profitable.
China's young population wanted new tech vehicles and the government also wanted to reduce oil consumption. Where there is a will there is always a way.
I don't like this catch-all term "legacy autos." For instance, Volvo is very eager to transition to EV. And Volvo is aggressively trying to make their next-gen cars more sustainable (announcing to their customers leather is going away, for instance), selling their C40 Recharge only online, dissolving dealerships all-together in time and they're replacing all of their current cars with EVs. They wanted to do this for a long time but the market wasn't there yet. So, that's one so-called "legacy" auto maker that was not hesitant to transition.
As far as ICE vehicles being profitable and selling, it only makes sense to sell what the market demands. Right now, in many markets, it's mostly ICE. As that changes, it's sensible and responsible then to adapt to those changes in a timely way. It's hard to tell now due to the pandemic and shortages so hopefully when things ease up we'll get a better sense.
In the UK at least, the ICE market has dropped at least 12% now, because that's how many new EV's are now being sold. Next year it'll no doubt be 20%+ of the new car market. The motor manufacturing industry are already beginning to adapt, but the oil industry will simply have to accept they've had their day, and those once huge mega-profits are slowly slipping away......
Why are the comments full of hate and stupidity. Without knowing the truth just being sinophobic towards everything! Under every objective video there are always narrow minded people that says “paid”
I think the Wuling is already on its way to Europe in a slightly larger modified form.
Yup. Freze nikrob or something it is called. 10k dollars at least though.
When Ora comes to the UK, Rita will definitely buy one 😀
I just don’t want to buy an American car which made in China in U.K (Tesla)…. 🤦🏻♂️
@Orangeman Agreed, I feel like certain countries are avoiding Chinese cars etc. due to political propaganda. It is unfortunate tho, they always appear to be better made and more reliable, all while being much more technologically advanced.
@Orangeman what I read and where I live? Seriously?? 😂Do u know where I live now? 😌😌dude, I just feel if I spend 60k-70k on a Germany/American car, expected it’s made in Germany/ American, not China or Mexico.
@@TD1237 not everything about politics, 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️at the end it’s all about money and profits.
Do you want to buy a Rolex made in China? 😌 some premium car brand should made their cars in their own countries. That’s all I want to say…. Just hate ppl bought up politic on everything 🤷🏼♂️
@@kaw7513 you got a point. However, just because Rolex or patek Philippe watch is made outside of Switzerland doesn’t not mean the makers don’t apply quality control.
The BYD busses are not built in China, the company I work for does sub contract work for Alexander Denise who build these busses in partnership with BYD but they are built in Falkirk and Scarborough in the UK
Very interesting and informative, looking forward to see Chinese car brands around the world👍✌️
No American will buy CCP CARS .
LIKE CHINESE SHOES: GOOD FOR ONE SAISON.
You should go back to school because Toyota is currently worth 327 Billion or 8X what NIO (41 Billion) is worth. That means NIO is worth only about 12.5% of Toyota by market cap. So I don't have a clue how you got NIO's worth 20% higher then Toyota...
Thank you so much for this objective video! Very informative! Can you try to test drive NIO, BYD in the future?
Sir you are one of the best and most informative people talking about electric cars
Thankyou👍🏻
Great video, I'm ordering an MG ZS EV or the MG5 in the next month. It's my chance to join the EV revolution.
Been hearing Nio’s ET7 is superior to Tesla’s Model Y in many respects. Would love a vid comparing the two, or just the ET7 solo with
you taking it through it’s paces. Great work!
Americans sure are triggered these days. 😅
Here in the US, the question about many of the Chinese brands is whether they will be allowed into the market. The Polestar and BMW are already being sold here. BYD has a US beachhead that sells electric buses and plans to sell cars in the future, with no announced date. None of the other Chinese companies have announced plans for US sales yet.
Even if they are allowed in, whether buyers of EVs from China will be eligible for tax credits is another question. Currently each company that makes EVs, domestic or not, is allowed to sell 200,000 cars with the full credit; it starts to drop after that and eventually falls to zero. The only two companies that have reached that threshold so far are Tesla and GM.
The little city cars cannot be registered for street use in most US states. A few allow them in for restricted use, but a car that can't be driven on highways won't have a lot of appeal here because many trips here require a highway drive, even within cities. So there are significant obstacles to bringing in those. And those cars are not quite as cheap as the usual reported price, which includes a subsidy from the Chinese government for domestic sales; if that MINI EV reaches the UK it's not going to sell for 3,000 pounds.
All the Tesla cars sold here are made in the US. But some models now contain those CATL batteries, and CATL is building a US plant to supply Tesla with more of them. The CATL batteries are only used in the standard range models; long range models currently use NMC batteries from Panasonic. Tesla is planning to produce its own cells in a new larger size (4680) that do not contain cobalt, but will also be buying 4680 cells from Panasonic.
Finally, those million mile batteries that Tesla has talked about? I think they're already here in the form of those new LFP models. LFP batteries are reported to be good for 4,000 or more charge cycles; with Tesla's thermal and charge management it will likely be considerably more. The LFP-based Tesla models have a range of about 250 miles. Sure looks like a million from here.
Great content as usual. It's concerning however that the US and Europe are so uncompetitive in the manufacturing aspect of ev's. I see why they have no leg to stand on when confronting China on geopolitical issues.
I read this comment multiple times. It makes no sense and is irrelevant.
@@badgerman2414 Its probably the education system
@@badgerman2414 hes basically saying that since America and Europe can't compete for example Huawei with their 5G they use underhanded methods such as "threats to national security" as a reason to ban Chinese companies. Biden has bold faced denied giving BYD the same treatment of support he gives other EV brands. America is really showing they lack the ability to compete in a fair competition.
Great content dude! Here in Oz we are getting boned with the lack of support from our government and everyone thinking petrol power is king. A paradigm shift is going to happen soon but man, it'll happen with people kick and screaming.
Correct, because that's pretty much what happens if a Government buries it's head in the sand....
I'm looking forward to the launch of the Xpeng G9, they said that it would have a 480kw charging speed and should be able to finish charging within 10 min. If that's true, it would change the current EV market as it would charge as fast as refuelling an ICE car. I hope that you could cover some EVs from China in your videos. Very interesting video BTW.
The replacement of a battery unit I thought of this the day I heard of electric cars in the 90's - now finally somebody is doing this- see at 03:00. It is the only way - drive till battery is empty, then replace the pack. Simple and workable.
What's up Rory
February 5/22
I just discovered your channel today. I can’t tell you enough how much I enjoy your knowledge ‼️
Great work…. I will spread the word ‼️
I really enjoyed the video on ice cars footprints as compared to ev cars footprints on earth 👍
Cheers everyone from western Canada 😃
Very exciting in all honesty. I think the legacy OEM's have had it too easy for too long. We need new entrants to shake the market up and drive competition.
Rory is a genuine motoring journalist. He offers so much more than new car reviews.
This video was BING CHILLING, Rory! +1,000,000 social credit points for you.
哈哈哈哈哈哈 this meme is getting popular in China too
A lot of talk about electric vehicles but very little about electricity infrastructure to cope with the demand. Governments are leaving that nightmare up to future Governments.
你说到重点了，可以了解一下中国的清洁能源发电，电力运输，储能
Very informative. Thank you. Besides electric cars, MG has made it to my shores in the Caribbean which after my research is now owned by a Chinese Manufacturer. On the fence right now.
Hats off to the Chinese for opening that Tesla factory in 9 fucking months.
NIO looks promising...
Far less people care where products are manufactured these days. This has also come about as product standards are set where products are sold, which outside China means Europe and USA. There are enormous vested interests in keeping car prices high in the EU to maintain the viability of legacy European manufacturers. If the UK allow the Citroen AMI to be sold in the UK there is no reason why the far superior city cars built in China for a similar price could not be offered to UK buyers who would be only too pleased to buy a brand new EV for the price of a five year old used Fiesta. IF politicians are serious about climate change and want us to drive BEV’s, China will clean up.
You mean west Taiwan
He means NORTH MEXICO
Lotus is fully owned by Geely. Tech will be same as used by Volvo and Polestar. And don't forget Lynk&Co as well which is also Geely owned.
Yes, I’m deffo up for Nio and Ora when it come out here🤞
Nearly all companies (including Tesla) setting up factories in China have to accept the Chinese government being allowed access to their technology secrets. This is the price they have to pay to enter the Chinese market.