Unfortunately, in most cases, the main reason why the battery fails is, that the cells are too “weak” to hold the peak power of the controllers, so when you push it hard and the voltage drops, the bms just cuts the power off, because of the battery damage (which otherwise can happen).
Well i knew that the cheap quality that the Chinese are known for would effect the batteries on these scooters. Its best to replace both the controllers and the batteries. Both are trash
@@illuminatedperspectives2894 I’ve had this issue on mine Xtron T88 with 50A controllers paired with some shitty chinese battery, which was advertised as “panasonic”. Yes, panasonic my ass, it was some shitty chinese cells which were probably fine to use in a powerbanks or so, definitely not in an escoot that powerfull. I have a custom built LG battery now, paired with the original controllers and it works just great. So yes- the batteries are crap, I would never ever buy any chinese escoot from BG/ALI ever again, lesson learned (extra 1000 eur for the 40Ah LG battery pack)…
@@honzalouma9583 Yes true story, but in my case there is lots of issue with mechanic damaged as U can see in this video. Ofcourse next one are low quality cells which in many cases can't handle amperage of the controllers ( BUT this is different story ;) )
Hey man, great job with the channel! Can you make a video or two if you get your hands on a Laotie Ti40 Titan or Ea40 Phantom? I would like to hear your opinion on that e-scoot. I'm thinking of buying such a beast...
Finally someone has taken apart these Chinese batteries. I've been wondering how many cells in parallel my ti30 has. Do you happen to know what type of cells they are using?
hey man i know this is not rly the right vid or so BUT the washers etc you should use igus iglidur ones, they're very good and made of the same material used in igus bearings for 3d printers etc like igus GTM-0815-015
I have a question .. i bought new back Motor for es19 i Install Landbraker Motor .. all fixed well but the Motor Turn backwards . How can i change it so the Motor Drive normaly Front ? Thx for answer help ..
Dear Pirate I wanna ask and i need help question. How I know to choose right BMS for my battery pack ?? BlDC motor 2800W-----2 motor 60V 2 controller each controller have 60A discharge power. For the up details if I use 21700 16S12P 40T samsung = BMS size ????? If I use 16S1P pouch cell Sk 66Ah = BMS size ??? Regards
I have a question since you are a veteran of the ΛΑΟΤΗ® Ti30 scooter market .. do you advise me to buy one or are there other models that may be more useful for use within the city
my custom battery I had made wont take a charge the voltage is 51v, when I connect the charger it charges at .1 amps then goes down its weird...Would you be willign to fix this its got sanyo cells 52V
Hey 👋 how you doing I need help my scooter from motor stop I replace the controller and the same things I switch the cable B controller to from motor and it works can you tell me we’re to check my scooter is a clone just like the X tron pro 10 same scooter 43.75Mph, 56 Miles Travel Range Powerful Dual Motor 3200W Foldable 10" Pneumatic Tire e-Scooters is a 60v 21ah controller are 60v 50v28a
"Like Chinese Laotie ES19 Yume" a co laotie es 19 się psuje ??? jakieś wady w niej znalazłeś ? opłaca się ja kupować bo jestem zainteresowany kupnem es19
@@PirateWasHere I try to find a forum or group for this vehicle, but find only videos from RUclips, when the scooter makes problems, like not going on at 54V
@@75mustango tubeless (Ti30) is better than inner tube, otherwise they're pretty much the same except the Halo got a back rest, but those split rims are weak and inner tube sucks either way, so i'd get the ti30
Piracie, może nie do końca pod dobrym filmem pytam ale masz większe doświadczenie w hulajnogach, jaki powinien być zasięg dla 30, 35 lub 38ah hulajnóg z mocą 5600w, 60v? Od niedawna używam klonu Laotie i mam jakiś mały zasięg jak na tak dużą pojemność, z 20ah wykręcałem 50km przy mniejszej mocy w innym sprzęcie, tutaj zasięg wychodził mi przy 15-18st 75km.
pewnie wiesz ze na twoje pytanie nie ma odpowiedzi ;), cos ala " Kupilem sobie toyote supre , raz spali mi 15l na 100 a raz 50l, czemu ? " . Pojemnosc baterii w Ti30 jest okolo 1800-2000wh , realnie kontrolery wyciskaja okolo 5000w, raz wcisniesz w gaz w podloge i doslownie wsysa baterie. Czym zimniej tym mniejsza realna pojemnosc. Jak jest 28C masz maxa 100%, przy 10c jest 75% , przy 0C jest moze 50% , przy -10 jest 25-35% . Bateria przy kazdym ladowaniu rozladowaniu traci pojemnosc moc ( zywotnosc). Ciezko dokladnie odpowiedziec na twoje pytanie 🚀🍻
Wiem wiem, nie doprecyzowałem pytania, oczywiście chodziło mi o jazdę z w miarę stałą prędkością bez szaleństw, wiem czego się spodziewać po temperaturze zewnętrznej, lecz w mojej mniejszej bestii zasięg nie zmienia się tak diametralnie, po 4kkm pojemność chińskich ogniw 19ah niewiele się pogorszyła, nadal jestem w stanie wycisnąć z nich 50km przy 20st+, jesienią spokojnie 40-45km z GPS 😁 tu chyba rzeczywiście trzeba będzie inaczej operować gazem. Jaki największy zasięg udało Ci się zrobić przy wspomnianych wyżej pojemnościach akumulatora?
Unfortunately, in most cases, the main reason why the battery fails is, that the cells are too “weak” to hold the peak power of the controllers, so when you push it hard and the voltage drops, the bms just cuts the power off, because of the battery damage (which otherwise can happen).
Well i knew that the cheap quality that the Chinese are known for would effect the batteries on these scooters. Its best to replace both the controllers and the batteries. Both are trash
@@illuminatedperspectives2894 I’ve had this issue on mine Xtron T88 with 50A controllers paired with some shitty chinese battery, which was advertised as “panasonic”. Yes, panasonic my ass, it was some shitty chinese cells which were probably fine to use in a powerbanks or so, definitely not in an escoot that powerfull. I have a custom built LG battery now, paired with the original controllers and it works just great. So yes- the batteries are crap, I would never ever buy any chinese escoot from BG/ALI ever again, lesson learned (extra 1000 eur for the 40Ah LG battery pack)…
@@honzalouma9583 Yes true story, but in my case there is lots of issue with mechanic damaged as U can see in this video. Ofcourse next one are low quality cells which in many cases can't handle amperage of the controllers ( BUT this is different story ;) )
@@PirateWasHere hello, so how can we stop this problem of voltage drop? Change bms?
@Honza Bilek no tenkrat to stalo jako ti30..takze me to mohlo dojit, ze to zadny panasonic clanky nejsou😄
Hey man, great job with the channel! Can you make a video or two if you get your hands on a Laotie Ti40 Titan or Ea40 Phantom? I would like to hear your opinion on that e-scoot. I'm thinking of buying such a beast...
Finally someone has taken apart these Chinese batteries. I've been wondering how many cells in parallel my ti30 has. Do you happen to know what type of cells they are using?
Ti30 uses 21700s
Are you gonna make a video about the new latoie ti40?
hey man i know this is not rly the right vid or so BUT the washers etc you should use igus iglidur ones, they're very good and made of the same material used in igus bearings for 3d printers etc like igus GTM-0815-015
I have a question .. i bought new back Motor for es19 i Install Landbraker Motor .. all fixed well but the Motor Turn backwards . How can i change it so the Motor Drive normaly Front ? Thx for answer help ..
Dear Pirate I wanna ask and i need help
question. How I know to choose right BMS for my battery pack ??
BlDC motor 2800W-----2 motor
60V
2 controller each controller have 60A discharge power.
For the up details if I use
21700 16S12P 40T samsung = BMS size ?????
If I use 16S1P pouch cell Sk 66Ah = BMS size ???
Regards
I have a question since you are a veteran of the ΛΑΟΤΗ® Ti30 scooter market .. do you advise me to buy one or are there other models that may be more useful for use within the city
my custom battery I had made wont take a charge the voltage is 51v, when I connect the charger it charges at .1 amps then goes down its weird...Would you be willign to fix this its got sanyo cells 52V
Do you know any one in NYC that does custom escooter work/mechanic??
how do you feel about Ti40 pro?
Did you mention the cell brand?
Can you try to replace the single rode stem of the es18 with the dual stem of the ti30 ?
Both scooters are similar to the folding mechanism so it is a simple swap.
@@marinostsali7131 down to try it?
Hey 👋 how you doing I need help my scooter from motor stop I replace the controller and the same things I switch the cable B controller to from motor and it works can you tell me we’re to check my scooter is a clone just like the X tron pro 10 same scooter 43.75Mph, 56 Miles Travel Range Powerful Dual Motor 3200W Foldable 10" Pneumatic Tire e-Scooters is a 60v 21ah controller are 60v 50v28a
are u getting new laoties?
"Like Chinese Laotie ES19 Yume" a co laotie es 19 się psuje ??? jakieś wady w niej znalazłeś ? opłaca się ja kupować bo jestem zainteresowany kupnem es19
Dobry wieczór, słyszę wiele narzekań na model es19, czy warto spróbować?, czy rzeczywiście są wadliwe?. Doceniam twoją opinię
These cells are similar with Samsung 25r. ?!🤔
Possible :)
Which E Scooter buy today? I look for Laotie Ti30 Landbreaker, but maybe now come better E Scooter.
For me ti30 is still no1 :)
@@PirateWasHere I try to find a forum or group for this vehicle, but find only videos from RUclips, when the scooter makes problems, like not going on at 54V
@@vlvdy buy Halo Knight 107 pro, better choice
@@75mustango tubeless (Ti30) is better than inner tube, otherwise they're pretty much the same except the Halo got a back rest, but those split rims are weak and inner tube sucks either way, so i'd get the ti30
Pirateeee where are u? We miss ur videos😩.
Thanks that U care :) , I got for U 30% discount for my Eshop :) . Just PM on FB group or support page on pirate.ac :)
@@PirateWasHere hello iam interested in discount in your shop. Do you shipped to slovakia?
Pirate u gonna come back?
Soon, but Escoots are kind of boring, in mean time I learned so many stuff about other things. World is amazing, so much to learn & share 🚀
@@PirateWasHere yeah i understand that u cant make rest of ur life escoots videos :D Lets see what coming next😏.
Piracie, może nie do końca pod dobrym filmem pytam ale masz większe doświadczenie w hulajnogach, jaki powinien być zasięg dla 30, 35 lub 38ah hulajnóg z mocą 5600w, 60v? Od niedawna używam klonu Laotie i mam jakiś mały zasięg jak na tak dużą pojemność, z 20ah wykręcałem 50km przy mniejszej mocy w innym sprzęcie, tutaj zasięg wychodził mi przy 15-18st 75km.
pewnie wiesz ze na twoje pytanie nie ma odpowiedzi ;), cos ala " Kupilem sobie toyote supre , raz spali mi 15l na 100 a raz 50l, czemu ? " . Pojemnosc baterii w Ti30 jest okolo 1800-2000wh , realnie kontrolery wyciskaja okolo 5000w, raz wcisniesz w gaz w podloge i doslownie wsysa baterie. Czym zimniej tym mniejsza realna pojemnosc. Jak jest 28C masz maxa 100%, przy 10c jest 75% , przy 0C jest moze 50% , przy -10 jest 25-35% . Bateria przy kazdym ladowaniu rozladowaniu traci pojemnosc moc ( zywotnosc). Ciezko dokladnie odpowiedziec na twoje pytanie 🚀🍻
Wiem wiem, nie doprecyzowałem pytania, oczywiście chodziło mi o jazdę z w miarę stałą prędkością bez szaleństw, wiem czego się spodziewać po temperaturze zewnętrznej, lecz w mojej mniejszej bestii zasięg nie zmienia się tak diametralnie, po 4kkm pojemność chińskich ogniw 19ah niewiele się pogorszyła, nadal jestem w stanie wycisnąć z nich 50km przy 20st+, jesienią spokojnie 40-45km z GPS 😁 tu chyba rzeczywiście trzeba będzie inaczej operować gazem. Jaki największy zasięg udało Ci się zrobić przy wspomnianych wyżej pojemnościach akumulatora?
@@nivchu 55km , ale standardowo z 30 ;)
To ładnie zapodajesz 🔥 dzięki i pozdrawiam 😁
@@nivchu 75km to naprawdę sporo. Mi w TI30 nie udało się dobić 50km a bateria na 100% jest sprawna. Podobnie z techlife x9. 30-40km zazwyczaj.