thank you for making a guide like this, as someone who's new to the car scene and trying to learn new things, tutorial/info sort of content is very valuable to me.
I’ve been loving the turbo kit on my BRZ for 3 years. The 86 should’ve come this way from the factory, it only improves the car. Of course getting much wider rubber than stock is a mist afterwards. I was on stock wheels/tires for a few months with the turbo and it was pretty sketchy.
Just get an aftermarket oil pan. The FA already has issues with oil starvation if you turn right too much. The oil pan is going to be a much bigger issue than the internals in terms of running risks making power.
I am running my stock fuel system. My tuner is pushing 320kw on the wheels(with his car) with the stock fuel system but he is tuning with the direct injection only. The port is used for cold start only. If you want to be safe, upgrade the supply pump but you can get more then enough power on the stock setup.
I have a 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8 automatic that has 58,000 miles because I drove it to school everyday for over an hour. I think I have owned it for three years now? Unfortunately, I wasted ten years of my life going to school to get a bachelor's degree in the U.S. in December 2018. I did an amazing Summer internship in 2019. Now I have no job and not making any money during coronavirus apocalypse tribulation. For the past few months, I have been learning more about cars and making a parts list for my Genesis Coupe to get it to 440+ wheel power someday. It doesn't look like I will have the money anytime soon. Over a week ago, I start looking into the GT86/BRZ/FR-S. When I see these cars on the road, I usually think, "It's another annoying kid in a brz/frs. Nothing amazing. move on." Which they usually are those kids. But the more research I do and videos I watch, I think I would rather have this car than my Genesis right now. Only if I had extra money for mods. Let me tell you the main reasons. 1. Yes, those are usually annoying kids who drive them, but this car has so much support and modifications that it can be transformed into a car that is beyond what high school and college kids drive. 2. Again, this car has support. All of the support for the Genesis Coupe is very small because the car is no longer manufactured, and the Infiniti Q60 is a better deal than Genesis cars now. The few turbo kits and modifications are very expensive (Remnant Performance being the cheapest and best I would be able to do someday). It is difficult to find anyone in Dallas area who works on Genesis Coupe like the they do with Subaru and the Evo cars, Mustangs, etc. 3. This car is super light and apparently handles well in turns. 4. There are stage 3 built motor blocks that I could have a shop install on this BRZ/86 car, and if I add a turbo kit and ECU and other supporting mods on top of that, I could reach the 440 to 500 whp I hope to experience someday. Not only this, but a car that weights this much and had that much wheel power would smoke some Porsches. I saw a video of a BRZ/86 beating a GT-R (GTR is one of my favorite cars). Of course the GTR was probably not heavily tuned, but the thought of that as a daily driver is what I need.
A turbo does use energy from the engine. On the exhaust stroke, the piston has to travel upward, pushing the exhaust gases out. The more restriction the exhaust gases have, the harder the piston has to push to expel the gases. That is taking power from the crank. A turbo increases the resistance the exhaust gases experience, and therefore take more force to expel, and take power from the crank. It just isn't as much power as a supercharger, but a turbo isn't exactly free boost.
Thanks a lot for this video, been debating on buying a solid next to new FRS 2015 with 20 000 km for almost nothing. I'm definitely buying and turning into a monster.
To me a supercharge has less complexity in terms of invasiveness to the the engine components because most sc kits like jackson and kraftwerks uses it's only oil system and in general yes they have less potential to make crazy power but sc has the immediacy of power and have less heat production. in my opinion the sc is better as a track application.
Great video. Very concise and informative. I hope you do other videos about modifying other cars also. Seems like it’s difficult to research information
Pretty decent summation of a turbo guide, except would have like to have seen info on drivetrain upgrades too.. anything over 350 is a good time to upgrade the stock clutch and driveshaft.. AND BRAKES!!!
also , a wastegate will always open when the port on the wastegate "sees" the pressure that the spring is rated at. in order too run a higher boost pressure you have to manipulate what the wastegate "sees". This is what a boost controller does and you dont actually need one with external wastegates at all as you can just swap springs
jess Wastegates aren't off/on valves. They're progressive valves that crack open before the spring pressure is reached. They act as a "brake" of sorts for the turbocharger. They don't exactly open right at spring pressure and remain closed after that. A boost controller, especially an electronic one, aids in decreasing spool time by bypassing the air that would "crack" open the wastegate, and allowing the air in once target boost pressure is reached. While it is true that you can swap out springs to change boost levels, that often isn't practical. Sometimes the wastegate lies in an uncomfortable location. Boost controllers come in several flavors and some you can get for as cheap as 20-25$ on eBay and they work perfectly fine and don't fail after years of use.
I would love to see a video on superchargers. Also, while I realize it only affects a portion of your audience including myself, a list of CARB legal supercharger and turbocharger kits would be awesome.
I find this video very useful. I am about to buy my brz but I've heard alot about blowning turbo brz engines. You said it would be good to modify valves and fuel pump, etc etc. I have found the auction without such modifications. Full spec is: Turbo FullBlownMotorsports USA installation. Power 300KM. FBM cooler. Oil cooler. Full Nur-Spec Exhaust. Front Alcon 6 piston brakes. Tein suspension with hardness adjustment. Rays Gray Lights Extreme Rims . Toyo R888 tires. it has around 40000 of mileage. Do you think the engine might be a wreck just after this? Is buying an used one a good choice? Especially with turbo installed? Is this setup something worth looking (I am not an mechanic so modding myself would cost me extra $, here everything is set up). How can I check engine before a transaction?
Not sure how many takes you shot Thomas, but the video was edited extremely well. Kept me interested all the way through! =) Liked and subbed (even though I don't have an 86/brz).
My FRS almost killed me with this issue , Toyota really needs to issue a recall due to this problem. The clutch fork and throw out bearing are incredibly weak and not properly lubricated from the factory. I have a video on my channel explaining this more.
If you can, can you can make a video on how to modify the stock engine to rev to 12,000 RPM (naturally aspirated) like the AE86 in Initial D, driven by Takumi Fujiwara? Happy if the modifications can deliver 200 horsepower at the wheels.
Awesome explanation not boring and not repetitive also efficient! I clicked subscribe more videos like this and dont change the way you explain things( making it not so complicated)
This is a really great video to get a lot of information quickly. I would love to see a SuperCharger video though, since that is what I am thinking of getting for my car in the future.
Nice Video as always, but would be great to take some time to decipher all the options you have on your site. Also, add me in for the supercharger videos.... I would like to see something where you explain the various SC kits FT-86 sells...Which ones are more plug and play (all parts included)? ... and which ones need more attention (tune + other parts) and maybe even horsepower ranges... What is the simplest way to make ~200-250whp (safe on stock compression)?
I would recommend against boosting with an auto transmission. They are alot more complicated which means alot more can go wrong/more chances of something breaking. Manuals are much much more simple and more rugged. There's a reason you never see boosted autos lol
So if you get AA after market Honey calling headers say You have to replace those when you get a Turbo with a Turbo new version or can you modify them to work with your Turbo deal cell headers that are kept off until you get a Turbo
So I done a lot of these things but for some reason my AC is not blowing cold air anymore and whenever my fan is on, my idle rpm sometimes drop to almost stalling
what about purchasing the Crawford short block path with S3L-X Turbo: Rated up to 600whp (720bhp) IS this the best path since the stock engine is very iffy at 350HP and it wui want to push 500HP Or more I Think this is the only path. Although with that said I think you would have to replace the clutch, flywheel and possble rear end gears and CV joints as well as add racing braes as I Think the stock equipment here would fail under that kind of power. Any advice and if you can sell or put together the full list of parts needed to add the Crawford 500HP short block and Turbo?
thank you for making a guide like this, as someone who's new to the car scene and trying to learn new things, tutorial/info sort of content is very valuable to me.
We do want a supercharger video lmao
LivingKV agreed.
Impede to the 🏪 for us all I have
pretty much the same with turbo but much simple
Supercharger video
Yup supercharger video
Supercharger video please!
Yes do supercharger too!
One of the best overall videos on Turbo charger systems I watch recently.
Directly to the point and not 1+ hour. Thanks
Supercharger video please
super grateful for this channel's communication skills. it's so hard to find videos about this stuff without 20 minutes of useless monologue
Supercharger vid please
super charger video please and thank you :)
I’ve been loving the turbo kit on my BRZ for 3 years. The 86 should’ve come this way from the factory, it only improves the car. Of course getting much wider rubber than stock is a mist afterwards. I was on stock wheels/tires for a few months with the turbo and it was pretty sketchy.
@mysticstrider You could also have a go at installing yourself with a friend or two, then taking it to a shop to get tuned.
This guy knows exactly what I need to know about 86.
We want Natural aspirated Max power video!!!!!
your looking around 400 ish hp but youd end up dumping around 7-12k into your engine
@@budderswag seriously? What would that take? Forged internals, Higher comp pistons, Bored, de-stroked, header, straight pipe, 9500 redline, rad upgrade, oil cooler, ecu?
@@najirban all of that + bigger valves. Any engine that you want to make NA power will cost lot of money.
But but but... stutututut
@@budderswag there is no way u could reach 400 na especially with consumer parts . Dont push the bs on the web if you don't have build to back it up.
it's kevin from subispeed
Just his hands......
stalker!
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Do a bolt on guide!
Am i the only one who reads Ecutek like "E-C-U Tech?"
Not at all. I’ve made this mistake with them as well as GReddy, which I always pronounced as “G-Ready” 😂
Matthew Novak no you not, I do to
@@metallicaspiker16 dude, i thought that's how you're supposed pronounced it the entire time, thx bro
Just get an aftermarket oil pan. The FA already has issues with oil starvation if you turn right too much. The oil pan is going to be a much bigger issue than the internals in terms of running risks making power.
Saved this video ! Will help me prepare before I turbo my FRS
Definitely make a supercharger video
I am running my stock fuel system. My tuner is pushing 320kw on the wheels(with his car) with the stock fuel system but he is tuning with the direct injection only. The port is used for cold start only. If you want to be safe, upgrade the supply pump but you can get more then enough power on the stock setup.
I have a 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8 automatic that has 58,000 miles because I drove it to school everyday for over an hour. I think I have owned it for three years now? Unfortunately, I wasted ten years of my life going to school to get a bachelor's degree in the U.S. in December 2018. I did an amazing Summer internship in 2019. Now I have no job and not making any money during coronavirus apocalypse tribulation. For the past few months, I have been learning more about cars and making a parts list for my Genesis Coupe to get it to 440+ wheel power someday. It doesn't look like I will have the money anytime soon. Over a week ago, I start looking into the GT86/BRZ/FR-S. When I see these cars on the road, I usually think, "It's another annoying kid in a brz/frs. Nothing amazing. move on." Which they usually are those kids. But the more research I do and videos I watch, I think I would rather have this car than my Genesis right now. Only if I had extra money for mods. Let me tell you the main reasons. 1. Yes, those are usually annoying kids who drive them, but this car has so much support and modifications that it can be transformed into a car that is beyond what high school and college kids drive. 2. Again, this car has support. All of the support for the Genesis Coupe is very small because the car is no longer manufactured, and the Infiniti Q60 is a better deal than Genesis cars now. The few turbo kits and modifications are very expensive (Remnant Performance being the cheapest and best I would be able to do someday). It is difficult to find anyone in Dallas area who works on Genesis Coupe like the they do with Subaru and the Evo cars, Mustangs, etc. 3. This car is super light and apparently handles well in turns. 4. There are stage 3 built motor blocks that I could have a shop install on this BRZ/86 car, and if I add a turbo kit and ECU and other supporting mods on top of that, I could reach the 440 to 500 whp I hope to experience someday. Not only this, but a car that weights this much and had that much wheel power would smoke some Porsches. I saw a video of a BRZ/86 beating a GT-R (GTR is one of my favorite cars). Of course the GTR was probably not heavily tuned, but the thought of that as a daily driver is what I need.
A turbo does use energy from the engine. On the exhaust stroke, the piston has to travel upward, pushing the exhaust gases out. The more restriction the exhaust gases have, the harder the piston has to push to expel the gases. That is taking power from the crank. A turbo increases the resistance the exhaust gases experience, and therefore take more force to expel, and take power from the crank.
It just isn't as much power as a supercharger, but a turbo isn't exactly free boost.
Super charger video and maybe a recommendation for twin charged set ups. Yes I'm crazy...but I want it.
Thanks a lot for this video, been debating on buying a solid next to new FRS 2015 with 20 000 km for almost nothing. I'm definitely buying and turning into a monster.
"Everything you need to know before you turbo your frs/brz/86"
You'll blow through transmissions faster then the advertised 0-60 times.
Not really. Put a good clutch. The motor will go before the transmission
Synchros in these are super unhappy.
I want to daily drive for 300k plus on original motor this power any suggestions?
@@surferman911 lambo
@@vicentesulbaran307 won't last
Supercharger video please. I want to go turbo, but it's not CARB legal here in CA.
KarantsTV works Motorsport turbo is CARB legal
theres already a couple legal turbo kits
Supercharge me Scotty!
they said HEY SCOTYYYYY
To me a supercharge has less complexity in terms of invasiveness to the the engine components because most sc kits like jackson and kraftwerks uses it's only oil system and in general yes they have less potential to make crazy power but sc has the immediacy of power and have less heat production. in my opinion the sc is better as a track application.
Depends on your track/power goals though right?
Great video. Very concise and informative. I hope you do other videos about modifying other cars also. Seems like it’s difficult to research information
350wheel? I'd be happy with 240whp!
yes we all want a supercharger video i think im speaking for 99% of the brz, 86 community
All forced induction videos are very appreciated.
With twin scroll turbos lag is almost a thing of the past. My newer Subaru comes on boost at like 1500 RPM.
Exactly right. Newer small turbos have almost zero lag.
Super charger video? Yes please!
We need a supercharger video bro!
Pretty decent summation of a turbo guide, except would have like to have seen info on drivetrain upgrades too.. anything over 350 is a good time to upgrade the stock clutch and driveshaft.. AND BRAKES!!!
i want that 86 shirt.
Ball bearing doesn't "flow more air", they just spin easier, leading to earlier boost compared to journal.
also , a wastegate will always open when the port on the wastegate "sees" the pressure that the spring is rated at. in order too run a higher boost pressure you have to manipulate what the wastegate "sees". This is what a boost controller does and you dont actually need one with external wastegates at all as you can just swap springs
jess Wastegates aren't off/on valves. They're progressive valves that crack open before the spring pressure is reached. They act as a "brake" of sorts for the turbocharger. They don't exactly open right at spring pressure and remain closed after that. A boost controller, especially an electronic one, aids in decreasing spool time by bypassing the air that would "crack" open the wastegate, and allowing the air in once target boost pressure is reached.
While it is true that you can swap out springs to change boost levels, that often isn't practical. Sometimes the wastegate lies in an uncomfortable location. Boost controllers come in several flavors and some you can get for as cheap as 20-25$ on eBay and they work perfectly fine and don't fail after years of use.
That red and black gt86 in the video is clean.
Yep. Supercharger video... I'm leaning towards the Jackson Racing kit myself...
Yes supercharger video would be amazing!
Thanks for the video, very informative and well thought out! Keep up the awesome informative videos, love your site!
I would love to see a video on superchargers. Also, while I realize it only affects a portion of your audience including myself, a list of CARB legal supercharger and turbocharger kits would be awesome.
Here's a couple carb cert kits
Works Stage 1 Turbo Kit - www.ft86speedfactory.com/works-stage-1-simple-turbo-kit-tuned-carb-compliant-2013-ft86-mt.html#.WtX6EYjwYkk
Kraftwerks Supercharger Kit - www.ft86speedfactory.com/kraftwerks-supercharger-carb-exempt-system-with-tuning-2013-ft86.html#.WtX6NYjwYkk
Thank you! That turbo kit is super interesting too. Simple and different approach.
a supercharger video would be good, so that people will know which to choose and understand more about supercharger
Yes please! Also some pro and cons between each hahaha, keep it up!
I find this video very useful.
I am about to buy my brz but I've heard alot about blowning turbo brz engines. You said it would be good to modify valves and fuel pump, etc etc. I have found the auction without such modifications. Full spec is: Turbo FullBlownMotorsports USA installation. Power 300KM. FBM cooler. Oil cooler. Full Nur-Spec Exhaust. Front Alcon 6 piston brakes. Tein suspension with hardness adjustment. Rays Gray Lights Extreme Rims . Toyo R888 tires.
it has around 40000 of mileage. Do you think the engine might be a wreck just after this?
Is buying an used one a good choice? Especially with turbo installed?
Is this setup something worth looking (I am not an mechanic so modding myself would cost me extra $, here everything is set up).
How can I check engine before a transaction?
Just twincharge, that’ll eliminate the lag 😉
The Dudeprime lol right 😂👍
To be more specific a sequential set up yeah lol
Supercharger video plss
Nicely explained without all the B.S. Well done.
Not sure how many takes you shot Thomas, but the video was edited extremely well. Kept me interested all the way through! =)
Liked and subbed (even though I don't have an 86/brz).
Also... Delicious Tuning ftw. Absolutely superb tuner!
I would really enjoy a supercharger video for the 86.
Let's see that supercharger video.
Please make a video on superchargers, and a video to directly compare the two for the FA20 motor.
My FRS almost killed me with this issue , Toyota really needs to issue a recall due to this problem. The clutch fork and throw out bearing are incredibly weak and not properly lubricated from the factory. I have a video on my channel explaining this more.
Great video dude ! Learned a lot about turbos. Please do a supercharged version !
I elected to go with the Jackson Racing supercharger kit. I love having the instant boost.
How did that go?
SUPERCHARGER TUTORIAL!! 😀
really love these videos man, keep it up!
If you can, can you can make a video on how to modify the stock engine to rev to 12,000 RPM (naturally aspirated) like the AE86 in Initial D, driven by Takumi Fujiwara? Happy if the modifications can deliver 200 horsepower at the wheels.
Exciting to hear more on Supercharger video as well, thanks!
Yes please do one on Superchargers. Sprintex please
supercharger video!!
Definitely do a supercharger video. Great video as always guys
can you guys do a video on what to look for when buying a used BRZ?
I'm getting an Asian Engineering Explained vibe from this guy
I had a 1989 Supercharged Toyota MR2 with a HKS turbocharger. 320 bhp.
Can't wait to boost mine! Just need to find some deeper pockets! Ha
For 5k idk 60 horse power doesn’t buy me
I will probably only do the headers and a stage 2 tune with opentablet
Awesome explanation not boring and not repetitive also efficient! I clicked subscribe more videos like this and dont change the way you explain things( making it not so complicated)
Damn I want an FRS so badly. I've done so much work on my truck though I'd have no money to upgrade an FRS anyways 😥
Get a 370z alot more fun
This is a really great video to get a lot of information quickly. I would love to see a SuperCharger video though, since that is what I am thinking of getting for my car in the future.
Supercharger please, and nice video about turbo
If I turbo my car how much of a fuel efficiency decrease do I except to see
Just adding another comment. Supercharger video please
Thanks for the info! Can you do a super charger video?
Probably going to want to mention a clutch on the next video. Also if you have a 13-16 upgrading to the 17+ tob
We've got a whole separate video for that ruclips.net/video/vz1bu2nsoBA/видео.html
Booooooosssttttt, wootootootoot.
Yes We Do Want That In The Comments Down Below....Yes Please Do Make A Video About Super Charging Your GT86.....PLEASE
Nice Video as always, but would be great to take some time to decipher all the options you have on your site. Also, add me in for the supercharger videos.... I would like to see something where you explain the various SC kits FT-86 sells...Which ones are more plug and play (all parts included)? ... and which ones need more attention (tune + other parts) and maybe even horsepower ranges... What is the simplest way to make ~200-250whp (safe on stock compression)?
I’d like to see the Supercharger counterpart video to this please. Thank you.
Please do the supercharger video!!!! I have a 2017 BRZ and I want to supercharge it!
What kind of nose/splitter is on the FRS/86/BRZ behind him? Looks like it has brake ducts too. Very nice :)
Toyota needs to come out with a turbo version of the 86
A supercharger video would be perfect. Keep up the good work!
Video on super charges and one on the pros and cons of going either way would be nice
Thanks for putting out this video! Please do more videos on boost!
Which is why the edelbrock S/c is so
Much easier to install....
Yes please been wanting sc my frs for a long time
How much power can an auto BRZ transmission handle and will it easily overheat?
I would recommend against boosting with an auto transmission. They are alot more complicated which means alot more can go wrong/more chances of something breaking. Manuals are much much more simple and more rugged. There's a reason you never see boosted autos lol
428WHP/331WTQ P&L motordports
Sporkinstien the only boosted autos are manufactured ones lol, anyone working on a car would buy and learn a manual because $$$
So if you get AA after market Honey calling headers say You have to replace those when you get a Turbo with a Turbo new version or can you modify them to work with your Turbo deal cell headers that are kept off until you get a Turbo
about how much will everything cost you
At least £5k for a basic set up, for what he’s talking about it’ll be 7+
A supercharger video would be great! I'm eyeballing the edelbrock for mine.
Supercharger video for sure!
So I done a lot of these things but for some reason my AC is not blowing cold air anymore and whenever my fan is on, my idle rpm sometimes drop to almost stalling
Do we want a video on SC? 🤔
at 8:41 in the video, what is in place of the AC Compressor??? I see two AN fittings and two steel lines, but not sure what they are going to.
what about purchasing the Crawford short block path with S3L-X Turbo: Rated up to 600whp (720bhp) IS this the best path since the stock engine is very iffy at 350HP and it wui want to push 500HP Or more I Think this is the only path. Although with that said I think you would have to replace the clutch, flywheel and possble rear end gears and CV joints as well as add racing braes as I Think the stock equipment here would fail under that kind of power. Any advice and if you can sell or put together the full list of parts needed to add the Crawford 500HP short block and Turbo?
You should do a 2step for the brz