Destiny Confronts His Friend, Bridge Catches Fire...
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Booksmarts wants to come on stream to address his comments supporting Destiny's ban from Twitter, he calls in WickedSupreme to mediate as the conversation progresses...
Date: 10 Apr, 2022
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00:00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:01:07 Booksmarts supports Destiny's ban on twitter
00:04:36 BookSmarts comes on to address his comment
00:34:15 "You've got a good point there..."
00:43:11 Why Destiny's twitter was banned
00:56:03 Emotional outburst
01:00:57 Destiny doesn't delete tweets to hide anything
01:08:52 Destiny's convo w/ Afrosabi...
01:27:22 BookSmart's definition of manipulation...
01:39:08 BookSmarts walks back after clip
01:44:27 WickedSupreme doesn't understand BookSmarts
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Booksmarts wants to come on stream to address his comments supporting Destiny's ban from Twitter, he calls in WickedSupreme to mediate as the conversation progresses...
I'm not watching any of this 2 hour video but I have to say that leftists banning leftists is so damn satisfying. Choke on it.
@@crazy10bears YEAH GO RIGHTIES WOO SCORE THAT POINT, TOUCHDOWWWNNN
@@crazy10bears my
@@leeroyo Oh god that was fucking funny
@@crazy10bears you represent the kind of original thinking that keeps bringing me back to the comments section.
I think the bar for the word friend has to go up for a lot of people. When I was younger, there was so many people that I would call friends that were actually acquaintances. In my 30s, the bar is really damn high for somebody I would call a friend
And people wonder why their “friends” are stabbing them in the back all the time
I've got family and coworkers.
It's not a fun life but it's a safe one
Was not expecting to see a Louis Rossmann comment here. Keep up the great work dude.
I kinda liked the "top 8" and stuff some social some previous social media sites had. Instead of everyone just being a "friend" - you could be like "but these are the people I actually like and hang out with" lmao. Yes, sure - whoever was the 9th and 10th person might feel let down a bit -- but that's part of life.
Same feeling about star ratings rather than just "thumb ups/thumbs down". There are different degrees of how much people like something, and different degrees of closeness for friends and acquaintances.
Worse yet, we are seeing a trend towards not even thumbs up and thumbs down -- the removal of the "dislike" button.
There is something to be said against a bandwagoning or crowd mentality in regards to "I like/dislike this because everyone else does" - but I don't think removing this kind of information is the right way to go.
@@PiPArtemis SAME
I am very unfamiliar with the Twitter/Twitch political sphere but after watching the pannels and discussions around destiny it really feels like watching a bunch of students discussing whether or not they like their professor. That's the vibe that i get.
Lol this is way more accurate than you might think. Or than they would like to admit, honestly.
TRUUUUUE
To add to that: Destiny is an old professor that grew up in a different time so he talks in a less progressive way and doesn't bs his way around topics
Wtf that's so accurate lmaoooo
Destiny is starting to get eaten by the side he's defended for the past ~6 years. We all saw this coming, which is why we stood up to their bullying and pointed out they are trying to aggregate power. Good riddance.
53:07 He needs ZERO evidence to throw a friend under the bus, but now demands evidence just for the possibility of switching his stance to neutral?
Yikes.
I know nothing about this guy Destiny's talking with, but he reeks of 'fair weather friend'. Seems like, just like Vaush, he was friends in order to associate with Destiny when he was one of the biggest names in the leftist political debating sphere; then when the association pumped up his numbers and gave him the clout needed to stand on their own, the 'friendship' was purely indifferent. Then, at the first sign of trouble, you use it as an opportunity to grow even more by throwing them under the bus.
It's extremely dishonest and a clear betrayal, but given how dishonest and toxic the leftist sphere is these days, it's sadly par for the course.
Dan called it. He once warned the BookFkr bridge was next. Wiith age comes wisdom.
The Saltman 5Head
old men do have the most wisdom
Facts. Dan the man strikes again.
Elderly men, barely holding onto life, withering to dust with every second really are wise.
Dan says a lot of crap memes though
booksmarts acts exactly how i do when caught in a lie: "wow thats an interesting new perspective i didnt consider, ill change my outlook in the future"
What's that acronym... "Deflect, Accuse, Attack" or something like that.... IDK there's a rational thought here somewhere
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor DARVO :)
@@edmaldonado8207
Let me guess... Deflect, Attack, Reverse, Victimise, and Optics?
@@jeremias-serus skinda cring
Booksmarts hopping airbnbs and demanding streamer level internet sounds like the most obnoxious fucking thing, I need to know why I'm wrong about thinking that.
only argument I could think is if he pays more for airbnb's that say they have a certain quality of internet, and it's not up to standard. idk tho.
You aren't wrong. His requests and the fact that he's willing to complain to airbnb is insane
Lol "what, you're telling me they don't have 50gb/s Fiber Internet at my Tijuana airbnb?? WHERE'S YOUR MANAGER?!?!"
yeah but he said he asks if they have good quality internet, doesn't sound like he just moves in and expects it to be there, its more he was told they would have it but when he moves in it's sub par. It's like if you were to ask if the airbnb has a pool and they say yes but when you get there its just one of those spa bath things
@@Benthorpy good quality internet and internet that allows you to stream are two very different things. Most non-streamers would say good internet essentially means fast downloading speeds and no buffering when loading sites or watching vids. An internet connection that facilitates streaming is a step above good internet
wow, Booksmarts had plenty of time to give this doshit take and somehow decided to do it while there's a hate bandwagon on Destiny, what an absolute coincidence.
I was gonna say the same thing haha! Wow, somehow Booksmarts accidentally mischaracterized Destiny around the same time the Twitch sphere has been shitting on him since his ban. Surely it was all an accident!
I mean maybe he just realized he doesn’t have to be “scared”. Destiny had a lot of influence on twitch before his banned, booksmart knows how destiny and his fans gets when someone attacks him, booksmart probably holded in his tongue alot of times. Is that coward shit? Maybe, but now that alot more voices are shitting on destiny, he decides to join too. That’s just my thought
If booksmarts is your "rhetoric" guy, then you're fucked.
yore
Destiny keeps getting hit by the fireball when he tries to heal. If anyone else is having problems with that, try baiting an attack before healing. If he's in the middle of another animation he won't start the fireball.
For a moment there I thought you were slyly referencing his recent ban streak.
I mean this whole video was hik trying to beat those 2 bosses. I mean. At some point you gt frustrated and like enough is enough finish the bosses
Yeah these godskin bosses are so annoying. The fact that they programmed them to throw the fireballs every time you heal is maddening.
@@shadycry5047 I can only imagine how hard it is to play a souls game while following wild mental gymnastics he does pretty good considering… but also Jesus it’s so frustrating
@@CrungySpungus its already very impressive that destiny can debate and think while landing on attacks on the bosses. I can't even talk while playing otherwise I might loose. But At losing for so many times i would have paused the game and take a breather 😂😂
The "I think you should be banned because you're mean" argument always seems to override the "actual" argument. As a Gen X'er I can say that I see this more and more these days. People who have to revert to this kind of tactic knows it works. But the hypocrisy is palpable because these same people have no problem ruining a person's life over one perceived aggression. That's far more "mean" in my view.
Mean + honest > nice + dishonest
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor nothing is absolute. Sometimes politely lying serves more good socially. Reminds me of the people who use "I'm just honest" to explain why they're dicks. It about applying appropriate tools at appropriate times. The important thing to remember is the people Destiny is "being mean" to are publicly spreading disinformation and are themselves asshats.
Destiny defended the social media censorship so I hope he gets banned to oblivion
I’m a millennial and I’ve always thought that my generation was incredibly soft. Somehow gen z seems to have outdone us even. I can’t imagine the level of safe space, ban everyone I don’t like type of stuff we’re gonna see out of the next generation if this trend continues.
@@bigben3089 the boomers were right, we are very soft and I think humanity needs to back petal a bit because people are getting too sensitive.
Is booksmarts the robot who doesn’t understand basic human interaction to the point he just reviews everyone else’s conversations saying their rhetoric might hurt peoples feefees
Then all his 1 on 1 talks go to shit because he can’t understand anything anyone says
He has a pretty good understanding of rhetoric. Better than 99% of people probably. He clearly lacks in some areas. He’s also like 25, so chill
Destiny is also unable to self acknowledge his own negative actions. He pushes the envelope everywhere, including on Twitter, then acts indignant when people confront him about his behavior
@@joshuajones6403 Normal people don't care about Destiny's behavior tho lol. Only terminally online brainlets get uppity over Destiny "pushing the envelope" on twitter and shit.
@@MrMctastics hes just a Child .. ?
@@joshuajones6403 I just cant imagine being in my 30s and caring about what anyone says on twitter, let alone someone with a decade worth of their real opinions online for all to see, often explained pretty throuroughly
slim chance you'll see this but if you still have the email of that original tweet the better business bureau may be able to help. Twitter doesn't reply, but if they take the case and email Twitter they should give you a response back about that. I did that for my Perma suspension
I second this, as an attorney who sometimes has had to get client suspensions reversed on Twitter. The BBB is a good route to take in many scenarios involving large companies 👌
the BBB is just boomer ass yelp reviews. they are a private company that shakes down other companies to massage "reviews" and are cancer. as long as they are paid their protection money they will keep a company's rating positive. its corrupt and garbage, they monetize consumer outrage.
I love how Destiny understands the mind of Booksmarts better than he does.
Edit. This is a genuine comment, not sarcastic.
Destiny has a ton of experience snake wrangling.
It’s really easy to not be honest with oneself. Destiny tried to give him an out and move off the convo but he didn’t want too.
Destiny thinks he does. Nothing more.
@@harrydouglas9818 except that like was said, there’s no explicit reason for the ban given. And what if you’re given a ticket for speeding and you weren’t actually speeding? It was just a faulty speed reader.
That being said, yes Destiny should really be reevaluating his past takes on censorship.
@@harrydouglas9818 why are u spamming this shit?
This wasn’t about being right for Destiny, this was about the death of a friendship. Destiny was checking the tall grass for snakes before going down future paths. Most people follow the flow instead of thinking for themselves. People like that will bite you when the opportunity presents itself. We all have had experiences like this with people in work, school, and general social settings.
You're making it sound like this is some epic social detective work on Destiny's part, when it's actually just really obvious desperate backpaddling. If this is what it takes to indicate to you that someone is a bad faith person you shouldn't be friends with, then you'll let too many less obvious signs slip.
Yupp, luckily he spotted it pretty early.
@@somedudeok1451 that could be true, but theres also many cases where friendships cannot be truly tested, and it would be psychotic to create the situations just to test your friends.
@@somedudeok1451 yeah I could tell pretty early on that BookSmarts’s ethics and willpower weren’t that strong, he made friendly streams with Vaush then ghost-wrote flat “Vaush is unironically evil” video, I knew it was just a matter of time before Book would alienate Destiny
Death Note music is playing guys
I don't know why Destiny ever talks to Booksmarts. Every conversation with him makes him sound more and more braindead
Its almost like hes not braindead
@@dylankempthorne what?
Booksmarts is exactly what I imagine happens when somebody tries to learn how to interact with people by reading a book about it instead of *interacting with people.*
Very funny how even the people who don’t hate destiny still feel the need to condemn him for basically nothing
Gotta get that sweet clout
Hes the twitch politics demon, the far left and right both hate him because he makes their echo chamber authoritarian bs look retarded.
@@MatTastic209 get on board with Fuentes?
@@MatTastic209 eh idk. Groypers are kind of fucking cancerous too. You should look at the shit they say in the live chat. I’m not going to be all buddies with a community with insane bigoted beliefs like that.
@@MatTastic209 not a stable alliance.
Being united by being outcasts is almost as wobbly as being united by hatred. Learn from Kreia.
ruclips.net/video/peEuwkBamx8/видео.html
"Snakes in the grass, trynna slither fast, I just bought a fucking lawnmower"
VROOMMMMMMMMMM
@@DaveChappeleIsGod All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
@@harrydouglas9818 how is speeding tickets comparable to social media bans?
@@harrydouglas9818 I mean, your example is pretty subjective to your local culture surrounding driving. Example, I live in New Mexico, EVERYBODY speeds 5-20 over everywhere, especially highways. I've never been pulled over for speeding on the highway, I have however been pulled over on the highway for "obstructing traffic" because I WAS going the speed limit of 75 mph, & everybody else was not. So to you, 3mph over the speed limit is speeding, to me & other New Mexicans that's the norm if you DON'T want to be pulled over. BUT, twitter TOS is not supposed to be subjective to cultural norms, it is supposed to be objective for all
This conversation was so frustrating. All Destiny would have had to say was "Would you still think I should be banned if I wasn't ban evading and I wasn't creating new accounts?" and then Booksmarts would say yes and Destiny could ask, "Okay why?"
I thought that too but I realised why the conversation was going in circles. Booksmarts doesnt care/know the original reason he was banned and admits as much. But because he is big dumb he thinks he is justifed to say he should be banned for ban evading as a seperate point. Which yeah, he is allowed to say, and it is a fact. Destiny's problem is that it sounds like he is using it to bolster the fact that he was originally banned. TECHNICALLY this is untrue/could be mispoken. Booksmarts is dancing around a technically for a real weak point.
@@twistedfox9445 Nah, the Booksmarts guy just couldn't own up to what was very clearly his initial opinion and had to run back to this very weak excuse.
@@somedudeok1451I’m a year late but this was true for literally every incident brought up. Booksmarts has an initial opinion, Destiny confronts him about it, Booksmarts tries to walk it back without fully walking it back.
@@plaguepug2091 Most people are idiots unable to follow a clear trail of logic and too emotionally incompetent to admit mistakes or keep their emotions out of their logical arguments. It's sad. And since then I've only seen more and more instances of such pathetic behaviour.
This is like the episode before the big season finale.
Man this twitch ban arc has been spicy, can’t wait to see what the finale will bring
The writers have really outdone themselves this season, I'm just worried that they won't be able to keep up the intensity in the future without something like a murder
@@Zgembo121 in a shocking twist, Keffels sets her sights on deplatforming Hasan after discovering the Lady Gaga and Catboy clips. Destiny is unbanned admist the power struggle and Keffels gets ratioed by Twitch support themselves.
@@Zgembo121 the manifesto.
All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
love how just like the gameplay, this discussion went no where for 1,5 hours!
xD
Booksmarts tried to manipulate me into thinking he wasn't a cowardly snake for the entirety of this video
real
*bookfarts
Never thought I would lose this much respect for BookSmarts. Oh, how the mighty fall.
Oh I stopped watching him a while ago because of how much drama mongering he was involved with for the sake of easy clout.
He went from a safe, sensitive do-gooder genuinely caring for Destiny’s emotional needs to just another streamer.
It was such a disappointing exchange on a personal level. Booksmarts is as disingenuous and performative as Demonmana, as weasely as Hasan, as uncharitable as Vaush and as spineless as Lance/TheSerfs. All in one person and I don't think I'm exaggerating.
The amount of times Booksmarts was caught being dishonest or blatantly misrepresenting something, then had to take it back but still found things to lie about it was unreal. I think there were 4 occasions with exactly the same MO. I don't know how Destiny can deal with these dishonest clowns and still be so good faith every time.
@@sargeteg5927 for sure and the worst part is hearing Destiny finally click that Book became what he’d feared. Another disingenuous hanger-on explicitly using his relation to Destiny as a means for gaining an audience.
How is that a huge portion of you DGG peeps can't see what Booksmarts actually meant vs what it came off as. And why can't y'all see that Destiny's comparison of a social media platform's TOS to our criminal justice system is wrong. Those two things aren't analogous in the way he's using them.
I know nothing about this guy, but I honestly cannot imagine that he ever contributed anything that even came close to insight on any subject with that level of thinking.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like Booksmarts. That guy is seriously terrible.
*bookfarts
Shout out to all my OG Booksmarts dislikers. Also shout out to Dan for being gigabased as per usual.
Dude is so fake. I remember hearing him call himself/his stream "wholesome" a while back - you just can't trust these people lmao.
Never blindly trust anyone. Trust is a currency, you earn it and you spend it.
@@CrestOfArtorias I like that
"Gigabased" jesus this twitch lingo is lame.
@@vinny5638 I heard an adult, it may have been Vaush actually, use the term "sussy" on stream and it was so fuckin stupid. Like damn, you're using lingo from Among Us? You could just say suspect, suspicious, sketchy, dubious, etc. Nope, gotta substitute your vocabulary with whatever the currently popular lingo is. When I listen to video game streamers, half the commentary is literally "pog, poggers, let's gooooooo." Like, what is the appeal of someone's commentary/personality when it is the same meme lingo used by every other streamer?
@@harrydouglas9818
Nice copypasta. Have you spammed it in the subreddit yet?
Bookie must've been in a really bad head space at the time or something cause I have no idea how you run that hot in a clip without BASIC info and then comes on stream and explains it away like this. Especially from the guy who claims and always appeared to be as conscious about rhetoric as him.
@@Mephisophistry You have a good head on your shoulders man. His current and past circumstances (plus some of the stuff I've seen him do on stream) can put you in dark places, especially when things are uncertain and stressful for long periods of time. I've been there and it's one of the hardest things I had to go through.
Remember:
Booksmarts is larping as someone, who understands people, communication AND situations!
No surprises.
@@s.hi.1076 I was half way through the video when I posted my comments but by the end I was starting to think that too in part. I never saw it in his or destiny's video/ stream but I'm sure there are clues cause where the hell does all this come from. If my friend said something like that about me on stream, I'd call them a snake. Although, I do think that his head is fucked up cause who argues like that against fucking clips. Being homeless, living in a van and being unsure about your future month to month would fuck me up but that could be a lie or not the whole truth. Him being fucked up would never excuse wildin like that but I'd understand a little better why.
Ah yes a true trust fund vagabond, travelling the globe visiting poor countries then complaining to Air B&B that he can't stream in 1080p to get a refund. I've never heard of this guy before, the first 10 minutes were enough.
I made a comment about this too. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt that there's some poor wording here but I can't imagine anyone who runs an airbnb would understand his needs even if he explained it. It seems really odd that a person who seems (seems) so nice would expect people to accommodate such a specific need to the point of actually making complaints.
100% agree. That airbnb tangent was worse than polio.
Never seen someone so privileged also basically be a hobo who ebegs to pay for his GLOBETROTTING lifestyle.
My man's needs to stop living in Mexico and get a labor job with some Mexicans. One summer shingling roofs in Texas would bring him straight back to Earth.
he's not a trust fund kid, he's essentially homeless and consistently broke since he spends basically all of his money on travel. that's part of why the meme about him streaming just long enough money to fund the next trip became a thing. i totally agree that he sounded super clueless and privileged right there though lol, it's super obvious he's gonna have problems trying to AirBnB in many of the countries he's going to if he wants to consistently stream without paying out the ass
@@deensama7718 appreciate ya. That is a hell of a situation.
1:26:30 - it annoys me that booksmarts sorta gets away with this one. The issue wasn't just that he 'didn't provide context', the problem was that he lied about the context and greatly dramatised it. His statement implied that they were surrounded by 'more black people than he'd ever been around' and that Destiny was repeatedly saying it for everyone nearby to hear. Even if he wasn't aware of the specific context, this was just a blatant lie.
He really is good at weaseling his way out of these situations
I honestly don't think the context makes it any better, but I never really agreed with his n word debate much to begin with. I think his argument is solid, I just don't think anyone should say it personally. Booksmarts phrasing was pretty fckn dumb tho lmao
I also would be worried to hang out around someone like bonnell because 1 he's dogshit at league plus he's white plus he fell off plus ratio
@@revolioclockbergjr.6780 how do you feel about non-blacks singing the n-word as part of a rap? I’m curious whether you have any exceptions.
@@matsab7930 I subscribe to the if we're deciding who can and cannot say certain words through whatever reason than it's just easier if nobody says it. Like I cringe out when my fellow white man drops an nword but that could be because I'm a liberal and can't squat 215 below parallel. It's not realistic cause I'd assume most people would sperg out with censoring language or whatever but that's just how I feel about it you know
A big problem that BookSmart is going to run into, just as a person, is not being able to admit to themself what their goals are. They are unaware of their own goals or wants at certain levels and so discussions will get nitty gritty instead being able to reflect on actual intentions or even goals. This is an infuriating cycle of thinking where they pretend to be a passive bystander with no opinions or at least any 'wrong' opinions. Plausible deniability is the name of the game.
what do you think their goals are ?
And he validates everything I said the last time booksmarts was on this. A smug, pseudo-intelectual, with big deficiencies in communication...trying to pose as a great communicator. His bread and butter is proofreading and editing college papers, this is a very specific niche which doesn't really translate into other things very well. He is used to looking at words on paper(or on a screen) where he doesn't have to worry about tone of voice or real time communication and interpretation of information being exchanged. You can have someone who's a good writer, that doesn't necessarily make them a good orator or rhetorician...often times they ARE, but booksmarts proves that isn't always the case.
Low key just tired of people pretending like this guy has a brain, simply because he was the only person in college that liked writing essays.
Rhetoric isn't universal. Things that work in writing may not work in a conversation. Being likeable and charismatic is more convincing to most people than pure rhetoric
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
@@harrydouglas9818 dude chill, ur on every comment it's scary.
@@yondaimesin so are you if your noticing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 karmas a bitch isn’t it? And this whole thing is about destiny dodging a ban, imagine if Alex Jones had a fake Twitter account after getting banned hahahaha y’all would have a field day. This is your guys bed you made now you have to sleep in it🤦♀️😂😂😂😂😂😂 “ ISNT IT IRONIC, ITS LIKE RAINNNNNMN ON YOUR WEDDDING DAY” 😂😂😂
@@harrydouglas9818 stop reposting the same comment in every thread jeez, literally what we mean when we call you folks unhinged
Ban evasion? I never imagined that someone with his sort of lifestyle would be such a boy scout. Maybe he can join a homeowners association and tattle on his neighbors if their grass is a quarter of an inch too long.
Bookaren
People travel cushy nowadays. He even complained to Airbnb about his internet, he sounds seriously sheltered.
Just wondering cause I’m not sure, how many destiny Twitter account have been made and how many been banned ?
never heard someone go through this level of mental gymnastics before
twitter = good
government = good
1934
Poor Bookfarts, this was a miserable showing by every measure. Having built a bit of a name for structural analysis, rhetoric and communicational prowess this was particularly pitiful. If Stephen would explain away his political takes suddenly by saying that he's just a game streamer that knows nothing about the subject it would give the same vibes.
Yea, it's pretty bad. I'd seen booksmarts like a few times, seemed cool but this is pretty bad lol
@@harrydouglas9818 All if your points seem particularly weak. No one would disagree with the speeding example so it doesn't work, obviously, so how is Destiny wrong here? There's no irony in Destiny getting banned and his stated views, they align perfectly and he has no issue with it so what's your point? No one's tried to cover up anything, but to point out damaging mischaracterizations. Destiny has made his private/public distinction clear so there is no new information here.
You seem very desperate for a dunk and I hate to break it to you, but you didn't even touch the ball yet.
He hasn’t built a name in any of that shit, him saying he did doesn’t count
@@doobas2171 He has with several decent walkthroughs of debates and he's even given reasonable advice to Destiny as well.
I think the implication booksmarts was ever good at those things is the problem. The reality is he just comes off as pedantic or nit picky most of the time. Sometimes it felt like to follow his line of reasoning you’d have turn your brain off or worse the line of reasoning blatantly misinterpreted what someone was saying.
I actually think he’s rather bad at what he does but to be fair I’ve watched very little content of his thanks to that negative perception I had outlined above. So maybe I caught him on his “bad days”. This is entirely possible. The whole I am afraid of destiny makes him seem like a sheltered baby. Especially given he had to know before hand what they were doing at the Trump rally.
About halfway it becomes the most obvious what 'the game' being played is. I think Supreme unintentionally called it out when he said "at best:..". Booksmarts knows he clout sharked and got called out and has nothing to actually defend himself so now he's trying to 'at best' himself with the most charitable narrative.
This whole rant was basically damage control.
the game is elden ring
@@harrydouglas9818 why are you copying your Comment? It shows either a lack of understanding or a lack of braincells :/
@@lazyvault39 just wanna get into argument with Incel DDgers while I’m bored at work. Something the left knowing nothing about 😂😂😂😂😂 karmas a bitch ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂
@@boreksniffer3538 Your comment isn't getting enough love for how funny it is
Wait this dude is supposedly a friend and sold him out that viciously? What a snake. He “thinks he should be banned for ban evasion”, says he has no idea what he got banned for, but SHOULD stay banned cause of previous offenses… AND thinks he probably broke the rules. What a double-speak loser, get outta here dude..!
Leftwing cucks being backstabbers foe their own gain
God i'm so shocked who on earth could have ever predicted this?
Exactly.
How do you claim to be a friend and then say you think your friend deserves to be deplatformed?
Not just banned or temp suspension. Not saying you understand why he was banned. Saying he flat out deserves to not have a right to be on Twitter or twitch? Ever? Wow.
I heard and seen so much toxicity from blue check marks that to claim anyone deserves to be be banned and never allowed on while not saying shit about the blue checks is just petty tribalism.
Jeff Tiedrich would post on every single tweet made by trump and it was almost always vulgar. This violates tons of Twitter rules in trolling, stalking, rude behavior, threats of violence, etc, but then they ban Trump soon as he wasn't pres.
Twitter is horrible in how they enforce their rules, so to advocate Twitter be more horrible is garbage. This "friend" would sell destiny out for a pack of gum and a soda.
Destiny himself wouldn’t put loyalty to a friend over his own morality. If Destiny’s friend is wrong he calls them out on it (aka Hasan, Vaush, etc.)
I think Mister Metokur said it the best: "I don't make friends with anybody on the internet."
4/5 star comment
Said what best? His own opinion?
I usually listen to these talks on the go without watching them, but recently, I've had a chance to watch, and this game just seems so hard. Like suddenly, I can't even listen, I just want to see the fights 😅
That's a souls game for you. Idk if watching other people play video games is the most boring shit ever or if Destiny is uniquely able to pick games that make me want to un-alive myself
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor I don't think that's what their point was at all, quite the opposite
He is playing a no vigor playthrough which basically means when he levels up he never puts stats in to his health points and instead into dmg stats which have diminshing returns meanwhile vigor scales very hard in the early levels so he gets one shot by everything
@@theguyinhd The response made me laugh anyway, so it's all good
@@FunnyGuy7 I had a feeling something like that was the case
-booksmarts: does rhetoric
-also Booksmarts: it doesn't matter how bad what I said sounds or logically implies, you have to take my word what it means
If you have enough charisma you don't actually _need_ good rhetoric.
The opposite is not true: you can have the best rhetoric ever and it will be worthless if nobody likes you enough to actually listen.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor I don't think you understand what the word rhetoric means. Rhetoric is the delivery system, not the information presented. Your charisma would be tied to the rhetoric, and if you were the best at rhetoric, by definition, you would be good at convincing people.
With "friends" like this who tf needs enemies
The more content by Booksmarts I have seen, the more certain I am that he is simply not that smart. He had a discussion with ChudLogic where he was ultra smug and told ChudLogic even a little research would prove himself right. Later he send ChudLogic a few studies while insulting his intelligence - all the studies turned out to prove ChudLogics point.
I’d love to see this. Got a link?
@@Adam-tu1lk This one: ruclips.net/video/18jhhxTa798/видео.html, to be clear this is the part where he gets confronted by ChudLogic, not where he makes the original claims. But I don't think you need the original debate for context, which I think was the Dr.K debate between ChudLogic and Booksmarts.
i've been saying this since the beginning of this bridge. So happy that others have come to the same conclusion. It always felt like he could get away with his stupidity because he was willing to caveat every statement he made; and he hardly made any assertive statements to begin with.
Chud is a good bongerboi
@@matsab7930 All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
Mr Girl definitely watched this with a big ass grin on his face
Does Mr girl hate everyone aligned with the left in destiny's orbit?
I think this conversation is a good example of why if you want to be a content creator, do not get involved with other content creators as friends. If I'm being ULTRA charitable to Booksmarts here, I can see his perspective in these clips but at the same time, I think its just part of the game. Your chat demands drama and so you feed them little bits in order to remain interesting, never thinking a few months down the line the sum totality of all these little shots will get compiled and thrown back at you. In real life, I think we all take these little shots at our friends from time to time, either out of frustration or being playful, but they aren't recorded and locked onto the internet forever.
That being said, I'm sorry but I only have so much charitability and I was rolling my eyes at a lot of Booksmarts explanations. For being the 'rhetoric' guy he seems to play pretty fast and loose with the implications of his words.
Idk that he views it as a game, i just think hes not good at dealing with the constant negative opinions he sees about himself. I cant say I blame him, I could see how it would wear on you.
Booksmarts doesn't seem like that bright of a guy, what can ya really expect
@@dylankempthorne Ya, after watching this space for a while and the dozens and dozens of people who have come and gone I have a lot of respect for those who last. Its been said before but as humans I think we just aren't mentally equipped to deal with this volume of criticism. Nor are we equipped to have everything we said recorded going back years and replayed for us in compilations.
Most people that stream for a living are undiagnosed narcissists of some form. It's only expected. Mister Metokur said it best: "I have NO friends on the internet."
Tbh most RUclipsrs and streamers are clout monsters who will do anything for growth
Booksmarts is one of the biggest cringe fools in this whole arena. I love it
Don't be mad bc he's right.
@@GreyKnight7777 Dude sounds like he has autism. He legitimately just has no social skills and can't comprehend how anything works verbally. He sounds like he's not a human and he's just some creature trying to figure out why humans think certain things.
@@GreyKnight7777 So, tautological statements are correct? Your brain called, it wants a different host.
@@uUuWolf16uUu It's cute that you just learned a new word, but you might want to Google what a tautology is. I'll wait.
@@GreyKnight7777 "a statement that is true by necessity or by virtue of its logical form" fun fact, words can have multiple meanings
He walked backwards faster the Michael Jackson. He said that it is good Steven is gone because he is bad for Twitter and Twitter is bad for him so him saying that it would be good for Steven to go through the process and get a clean account is 180.
That "I'm sorry" at the end really sounded heartbreaking in a way even though it was justified, volunteered and brushed over.
Bookfarts is a bookbitch
Sometimes I get lost in Destiny's logical branches (because it's a lot to keep track of in my feeble brain) But I think he's logic is solid here. Referring to chapter: BookSmarts comes on to address his comment
Nt trying to get you or anything but would you bd able to share a recent logical branch that gave you trouble? I just wanna see if Im unbiased :)
Booksmarts: "N'stuff" 4:51 "N'stuff" 4:54 "N'stuff" 4:57 "N'stuff" 6:31 "N'stuff" 6:36 "N'stuff" 7:06.....
Im out. Holy yikes man.
Whoa whoa whoa... the best part was just cut out?
How do I look like that after 21 days?
Made this exact comment the last time Booksmarts said something dumb and i'll make it again; he isn't particularly smart, he brings very little to the table and there's no reason for him to have this odd role of 'rhetoric police' in the community.
Seriously, it's like the twitch community just accepted that he's the universal moderator of the platform without him really having to earn the credentials. Fortunately people are waking up to how nonsensical that is.
All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
@@harrydouglas9818 I don’t think destiny has every argued that Twitter doesn’t have the right to ban him. His only argument is that the reasons are never explicit so you never truly know where the line is.
@@matsab7930 yes but the ironic thing is if alex Jones was making alt accounts you and the wholenDDG and all Dems would be trying to get it removed. Karma is a bitch. He had this coming
@@harrydouglas9818 who the fuck do you think I am? I couldn’t care less if anyone made an alt Twitter account, and I’d care even less if it was banned too.
If destiny hit the mainstream Twitter would ban any alt accounts they found, the only reason it doesn’t happen is because he slips under the radar. I’m pretty sure destiny has even acknowledged this?
Who are you arguing against right now? Your comments make it seem like you’re emotionally invested in this?
@@matsab7930 just funny how karma is such a bitch. Y’all made the bed now you have to sleep in it. Keep supporting private orgs having god like power to silence people until it affects your side 😂😂😂 I love karma
Sad and lame on Booksmarts part. If he’s being sincere about his perspective then he’s too dumb to be in the room with adults, and if he’s lying then he’s really good at sounding like a dumb person who doesn’t know any better.
You know the conversation is going in a circle when you get more focused on the gameplay rather than the ongoing conversation ^^
Love destiny’s face when he dies to the dragon for what looked like no reason hahaha
Dude, I think that all booksmarts had to say was that he "wanted" destiny to be banned on Twitter instead of trying to argue whether he ought to be banned. because If all he was expressing was his feelings, then combining the emotional argument with a logical one is way more fair game... imagine he said this: "when I made that clip steven I was trying to justify that I wanted u to be
banned... your twitter is super toxic and edgy, I hate the jokes and I really hate how bad they make you look when I know that how you present yourself on that website doesn't align with reality one to one... then I just said that technically according to the tos u should be banned already to further justify my feelings"
And I still feel that this is the actual reason why he said that in that clip. Book was critical of Destiny on twitter for a year+ and even said before he shouldn't be there. Idk why the fuck is he trying to say its not the actual reason. Destiny sused it out in like 10 minutes but book for some reason disagrees.. out of what? Embarrassment?
Why is Book debating why he should or should not be *banned* instead of just 'not on Twitter'? It's ceding unnecessary ground and putting himself in an unwinnable position where you can only sound dishonest to dispute it. If you think he shouldn't be on Twitter, stick with that. Don't get dragged (or walk willingly) into a debate about ban evasion when you don't know anything about it, then stack that with bad behaviour as another 'reason'.
That being said, I don't really understand Book's position. If ban evasion/TOS is a problem, his behaviour is irrelevant. If his behaviour is a problem, the TOS is irrelevant.
Because there’s social capital on the line. The people who have been for Destiny being banned have been bridge burners or enemies. His friends have either not commented or outright disagreed with the ban.
Book is only someone because of Destiny. He’s be a 20 viewer Andy if not for this “relationship”, and that’s something that’s constantly at the back of his mind here.
It's always a treat to hear destiny and wicked chat
I didn't used to dislike Book until I started watching his streams to be honest. Can't really decide what he wants to do, gets overly touchy about things chat says, wants to be like... someone to look up to for tonal advice and things like that, but practices NONE of it on his own stream, especially (as mentioned) how easy he flies off the handle at his chat.
I also just fundamentally disagree with what he considers improving debates. I mean, some of it is good, but I'm more in the Mr. Girl camp when it comes to how debates need to change. Book wants people to be more "fake" for lack of a better word.
That said, Destiny is doing one annoying Mr. Girl thing here where no matter what Book says, Destiny just keeps saying "that's not what you think, only I know what you think." You literally can't argue with someone once they start saying that.
Thank you. I thought only I thought this. I love bookie and am subbed to him, but I noticed that he gets very nasty with his own chatters and it just seems so gratuitous and overboard. It’s upsetting to see the disconnect between his empathetic content yet see him be such a freaking asshole.
He isn't saying "only I know what you think"
He is saying "I know this isn't what you think" (or "is" I don't remember if it was a positive or negative assertion)
Man Bookssmarts has always been like this. All his reviews were popshots at Destiny. All his criticisms face to face were light regurgitations of the "stop hating leftists" talking point.
Go back and rewatch the Bookssmarts videos and he's ALWAYS been like this.
All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
How much do you hate leftists small might?
Not at all?
As much as Destiny hates Hasan?
@@ubuu7 I don't hate leftists. Some ideas of theirs and some individuals, sure.
@@harrydouglas9818 no you shouldn't lose your license for going 3 mph over the speed limit. That would be laughed out of many courts.
Saying "Destiny should be banned for ban evasion" is essentially like saying "You should be arrested for resisting arrest". The conversation is about the initial arrest/ban and you shouldn't use the resisting/evasion of that to justify the initial arrest.
Just got to the 28:00 minute mark, and Destiny just used my example 😂
Imagine comparing the TOS of a social media platform and our criminal justice system. I love Destiny, but these things are too different to be compared like this.
@@impastorr1354 could you explain why the analogy doesn't work without just saying "They're 2 different things"?🤔
If the principal point of the analogy is that "You shouldn't justify the initial punishment of someone by their evasion of that punishment." How does that not apply in both situations?
@@impastorr1354 Just because two things are different in severity doesn’t mean their components can’t be analogous
@@jrthehunter4309 You'd have to be terminally online to compare a real-life unjustified arrest to being banned from a social media platform for unsatisfactory reasons. Because let's be real, there are no unjustified bans from social media platforms. Social media platforms can create and enforce whatever TOS they want, and no one has the unalienable right to have an account on any social media platform. In a real-life arrest however, an arrest can easily be unjustified since it can violate a person's right to liberty without legitimate reason. You absolutely need a legitimate reason to arrest someone, which is def not the case with a social media ban.
Hey Destiny, a deduction (deductive logic) is an inference made from a hypothesis -> testing -> conclusion and in induction (inductive logic) is an inference made from observations -> synthetisation -> conclusion. Heard you say deduction where it would have been induction. Thanks for the content my friend Steven and my friend August : )
Honestly I was never a fan of Booksmarts and he massively disappoints here. What he CLAIMED to try to do was interesting and valuable but how he actually IMPLEMENTED that was pretty bad in many cases. In this instance we have a very clear example of how Booksmarts's logic is fractured and the sad thing is he has a hard time coming to grips with it.
Hes always got on my nerves. Im unhinged and I like blood sports and when he first came on, he was like destiny's temper coach and it bugged me.
What he demonstrated is him trying to double speak out of this and showing how disingenuous he is as a person, I’d have more respect if he was like “I fukt up dude, my take was wrong I’m sorry”, but that would take real courage, nobody has the courage to be honest these days too much pride.
I thought Booksmarts was actually smart. But he is not.
I also hate people hiding behind "oh, Im autistic".
@@AdvancedSquadLeader I agree. To me it doesn't seem like he's autistic, I just feel like his writing skills are overhyped and his logical argumentation is subpar. The way in which he often has issues understanding context is a constant problem with myriad symptoms that make him a bad choice for explaining anything to a larger audience.
Bookmarks' focus was never logic. If you actually watched his streams, you'd be aware of that. His focus was always rhetorical effectiveness.
He actually had some pretty good inputs when it came to the multiple vaush destiny dramas and the twitter arc, but also some mishaps of course.
The world ain't black and white son.
i have never seen a "poor" person move around the world this much. There is no way his family doesnt have money and isnt paying for these trips.
All of these people “intellectuals” have wealthy families that coddle them financially while they live extremely privileged lives and wag their fingers in the faces of normal people.
It’s so easy to be woke when you’ve never had to actually work.
Before he lived from writing papers for college students, now he lives from Twitch and donos. Also he slept in his van. These days he literally has donation goals for his rent. Thats actually why he lives in mexico and other places like that, it's cheaper than living in US and when paid in USD.
@@DudokX theres no way he travels the world going to europe off of twitch donations or writing papers this much. He will be in mexico for one month then fucking greece the next.
@@DudokX most hobos just have to live wherever they happen to be. If you need donation goals to pay rent then it sounds to me like you need a real job.
Booksmarts might be the dorkiest of them all
I've been watching since the 4festor hit squad days and even I thought the ban was the bomb threat joke
When the mediator left I thought I blew through the 2 hours of video.. I checked the time and there is an hour left. This conversation is so draining.
So either bookfucker is really bad faith and lying here about his intent or he knows fuck all about rhetoric and how to phrase what he means/wants to convey. This sounds really bad and I'm getting Vietnam flashbacks of burning bridges from destiny's past. Then in the end destiny will be blamed as a bad guy for being mean and burning the bridge when booksmarts was literally taking shots at him on repeat, whether intentional or not.
Damn Destiny supporting book burning now. He really has swung to the right.
some leftists are also fans of book burning so its okay
Bridges, books, witches... WE'RE BURNING EVERYTHING NOW BOYS!
@@attilapataki46 All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
"it's not that it's not important, it's just that I don't know it" my brother in Christ that's a pretty important component of your argument
“That was Denims level treachery...”
Oof.
I felt that cut deep.
I heard Mr. Girl's take on this argument before I saw this, and was really curious about his comment on how he doesn't believe Booksmarts forgot how English works. I chalked it up to hyperbole, but jesus..
Yeah Destiny is intentionally trying to burn this bridge. Not saying Booksmarts isn’t at some sort of fault, but Destiny was being verrrrry aggressive the entire time
Yeah its pretty obvious when Destiny is here for blood vs discourse
In the second half it becomes so obvious
Bridge Burning always comes before the manifesto. - Destiny probably
can't wait for the Vooowsh manifesto
"I never saw a bridge I couldn't light."
~Destiny, for sure
This feels like a lawyer pressing a bystander or cop or prosecution about the law
All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
You should never attach yourself to thoughts/beliefs/ideas that you don’t fully flesh out
I agree, albeit a lot easier said than done, as you truly never know how much knowledge is hidden underneath, as soon as you uncover some you find several more rabbit holes to climb.
Might end up taking many years before you realize the gaps and some gaps can't be answered, at least as of yet.
@@norXmal while I can agree with you about this in so many topics. It’s just with this situation i feel is a hating the hated. My statement however is a bit generalized.
@@AvrageAndy Gotcha, I wasn't aware that you were being specific to this situation and I agree, don't voice an opinion as a fact when you are ignorant of it.
But, when do you know if you are ignorant of it?
That's the hard part, at least for me and the only ways I found was to uncover that is to ask people with different opinions that could combat your idea or keep digging while trying to be the opposition of your arguement/belief.
Booksmarts in this was constantly backpedalling from previous statements, not sure if it is ignorance or on purpose.
Eitherway, his name does not fit his actions.
I know BookSmarts as the guy that walks back his opinions when confronted about them by Destiny. He did the same about the Hans v DemonMama debate lol
Gotta give him credit tho, atleast he actually walks it back instead of 98% of people who scream and cry when theyre proven wrong
Sounds like a hoot. Can not wait.
fire reaction vid to unk's weight loss guide! the booksmarts guy was pretty interesting too
The inference method destiny uses to deduce Booksmarts' lying is called representativeness heuristic. If anybody is interested I recommend you look up a thread on the sub about it, great stuff, turns out it was used in a harry potter fan fiction lol.
You can't be banned for ban evading without having an original ban. Therefor knowing if the original ban was justified would justify the the ban for ban evading
All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
@@harrydouglas9818 you good bro?
@@Miszor420 typical Incel ddg response😂 why are all Biden supporters ugly? Did you see the destiny maga rally? All ugly ppl were Dems hahahahaha
@@harrydouglas9818 he didn't go "3 miles over the speed limit" though. If anything he went 3 miles under and the cop said "eh, close enough"
@@theeendo3677 now your arguing the same side as republicans 😂😂😂😂 aren’t you guys for Twitter being a private org that can ban anyone for anything if they want too? 😂😂😂 watch out now your starting to sound like a “Nazi racist” like all republicans are right? 😂😂😂😂 karmas a bitch and your mad
~ 28:00 That's not the reason for multiple points in an essay. Thinking from an essay writing perspective isn't "I'm going to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks". Multiple points in an essay are meant to build upon each other to argue a single conclusion.
This conversation is full of comedy gold.
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I liked bookie tho... but even jokingly bringing up a redemption arc It stings of trying to maintain the bridge to continue to leech. This is going to be difficult to overcome because it needs charitability from Destiny to heal and whatever Booksmarts does he better not stop being critical of Stephen or its an admission to clout farming.
Kind of rude to be renting airbnbs and expecting them to have internet capable for streaming then when they obviously don't you complain above them to airbnb saying the internet doesn't work at all
He said that he is pre calling the rnbn to ask if they have sufficient internet. It's not like he strolled in and said "Gimme sweet fast 5g now!"
He asked they said they can provide and they couldn't provide. That simple.
Don't let your frustration with this debate overshadow the actual criticisms brought up through petty points like that.
13:35 - Booksmarts actually starts talking about Destiny's twitter
Saw this one coming from the first conversation
It always makes me chuckle when people on the left refer to the US and Europe as “better countries than Mexico” 😂
Next week this guy will be calling for someone (on the Right) to be banned for saying the same thing 😂
I hate these arguments when it comes to social media bans. “If you broke the TOS of (such and such website) then you deserved to be banned” I think this is a major cop out and a very naive and simplistic way of looking at things. TOS is similar to IRL laws, people break tons of laws that are on the books everyday, the only reason they don’t get charged is because no one is going to enforce said rules. Websites like RUclips and Twitter are the same, they have a ton of different rules and they are purposely made vague. So you can make tons of arguments that a ton of people have broken TOS yet haven’t been banned. There have been plenty of examples and debates about people breaking TOS on different websites yet not getting banned for it. So I think you need to bring up a moral or practical argument for why said person should be banned instead of the cop out answer of “Oh well he broke TOS”.
By that logic, wouldn't you need more to arrest somebody than "they broke the law" though?
@@harrydouglas9818 and saying the N word context matters soooooo what does that have to do with anything
@@noahthenormal theres a difference between a legal/logical justification for an arrest and a moral one. Do you deserve to get arrested for skipping jury duty?
@@tongpoo8985 The law is supposed to provide a structure for society, so I'd say, if that's the normal recourse for missing jury duty, then yes
@@noahthenormal I was trying to point out there are laws that people break everyday without knowing because laws rarely if ever get taken off the books. For example where I live it's technically illegal to fly a kite, yet the cops never say anything, no one does. So I'm using this fact to argue that in my opinion a law needs to have a practical or moral benefit to society in order to be considered justified. I don't think this is a very extreme take either. For example if suddenly your area made a law that says you can't drive any vehicle inside your town/city, do you think anyone would enforce or obey a law like that? It makes no sense and would just be a major lose to society. So I think in order to justify a law there needs to be a reason, be it moral or practical.
This guy really has no booksmarts or street smarts.
tries to explain that he doesn't just stream to fund his travel and then literally explains that he only streams to fund his travel. Good rhetoric there friend
OK so this guy is just motivated to remain ignorant so he can take any spicy position without the nuance of being informed on all of it
I don't know what you're talking about but you're wrong and I bet you steal candy from babies!
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Hi :)
Cool story
You have chosen the right path soldier
howdy 😤
It looks like this book… has no spine😎 *CSI Miami intro plays*
Wish there was a counter ticking the number of times this guy said the word ‘like’.
I think this dude might be a little duplicitous
Booksmarts had been absolutely awful the last 6 months. Glad i never subbed to him. No loyalty, disingenuous as hell
My favorite Bridge Burners. Kalam, Quick Ben, and Destiny.
lol, this whole interaction is Destiny going “debate me bro, debate me!!!”
I don't think destiny should be banned at all but here's an example of what booksmarts was trying to say. You're falsely accused of a crime and you go to jail. You escape from jail. You get arrested for escaping from jail. Now you're in jail because you escaped from jail it's justified. Again either way I don't think you should be banned.
Except that wasn't at all what Booksmarts said. Booksmarts said, "Destiny was arrested and he keeps doing thing I don't agree with, and then he escaped jail, which is illegal, so I think he should be put in jail." Grow a fucking dendrite.
Not everywhere true. In germany f.e. there is no punishment for escaping the jail, because humans have, even when guilty, the right to strive for freedom. Basic human right.
@@homers84 All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
@@harrydouglas9818 Destiny is saying that Booksmart doesn’t even know why he got his licenses suspended in the first place. If Booksmart knew about the hypothetical 3 speeding tickets than he can say he supports the license ban.
The issue is the conclusion is build before .
@@Ms452123 agree, but if you were to tell your friend “ I’m driving while my license is suspended ” the friend doesn’t have to know why your license got suspended to know you shouldn’t be driving. My analogy is rock solid
With him I get the feeling of a middle age life crisis that is lasting a couple of years already.
All this dude had to do was ask destiny if you get 3 speeding tickets for going 3 MPH over and gets his license suspended should he still be able to drive. Destiny is wrong here but this guy doesn’t know how to argue his point. So funny seeing destiny get banned on everything after he was going around saying “ oh well these are private orgs they can do what ever they want” karmas a bit#* ain’t it? 😂😂😂😂😂 also imagine trying to cover up how much destiny says the n word offline 😂
“it’s not that it’s not important, it’s that I don’t know.”
who needs enemies when you got friends like this : )