Star Wars: Imperial-II Class Star Destroyer | Ship Breakdown
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Wow! What an impressive ship! Almost as impressive as the UESC Marathon, which you should totally do a video on!
Nice!! Been waiting so long for the Sojourn, I can't wait!!!
I looking forward to.
HOLY CRAP YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
will it be released to RUclips?
You missed the most important escort craft : The *Lancer Frigate.*
But don't feel bad - so did the Empire.
ZING!
Empire: the Fuck is an escort
Imperial gun boats were missing too. I love those sleek ships.
Has the Lancer been brought to the new Disney Wars? I'm pretty sure it was an old EU ship.
Yeah its pretty much been replaced by the Raider Corvette
"Star Destroyer Standing by"
Crush those rebel scum.
empire at war is legendary.
"Tartan cruiser reporting in"
Interdictor field engaged
Broadside cruiser, reporting!
Daniel on the Executor:
"There's perhaps no greater symbol of the Empire's dominance..."
Daniel on the Imperial:
"There has existed no greater symbol of imperial dominance..."
Looks like someone made up their mind.
I mean 19,000 ISD-II are scarier then 19 Executors.. Need a whole lot more A-wings to take out all the ISD-2..
Didn't Alex from Star Wars Explained say the same about the AT-AT?
R0T-N2 D-C0R4 25,000 ISD not 19,000
@@ravager2-636 eh, not really.
I think he means that the Triangle is the greatest symbol of the empires dominance
“The Sojourn, Season 1, Volume 1, coming August 1 2020”
Me: *Pterodactyl screams*
Final-f*cking-llllllllllly!!!!!!!!!
*Screeches of joy*
Those screams... RIDLEEEYYYYYY!!
Zahn had a stroke of genius when he decided to only give Grand Admiral Thrawn the remnants of Death Squadron and a bunch of escort ships to work with for the Thrawn trilogy. The ships have names, they have captains, they feel like huge important and individual ships, unlike in so many other stories. There is a reason to why the fans latched on to The Chimera as a cool and amazing ship, it has a history to it.
The New Republic is established, they have a navy large enough to properly contend with the Empire and yet... people are utterly terrified the moment an Imperial Star Destroyer appears, and it is extremely rare for one to actually be destroyed. They are too large, too powerful, too sturdy.
That's why of the 25k that existed only like 300 remained with the remnant
yeah with like two big SHOOT THE GENERATORS like spheres
The Sojourn hype continues to build!!!
2025 : How the Sojurn lore evolved.
I don't know why your trailer gave me goosebumps but it did. And now I'm sold on The Sojourn.
Spacedock: "I have you now!"
Definitely one of the most iconic starship designs in Sci-Fi
It probably deserves to be. The realism score is like 14/100, but it's the Imperial Star destroyer man. I'd be lying if I said it didn't play a part in my falling in love with sci-fi, and even if I now prefer the more realistic and thought out ones, this scary triangle will always have a soft spot in my heart.
Mariana?
@@petrpodskalsky1785 Scary triangle? More like Scary pizza to me.
Nothing beats the Venator and Victory class Star Destroyers for me. They are an absolute amazing ship and nothing can beat them in terms of beauty.
I love that the ISD IIs are like analogous to real world interwar Battleship designs - great ships but for the wrong war.
Having the wall of lower calibur and distributed casemated laser cannon and turbo laser batteries made sense to punch through swarms of low end CIS ships of the line, but clearly lacked the true dual-purpose nature to make them effective against long range strike craft the Rebels would achieve most of their victories with.
Tie defenders and more laser cannons would've solved that problem. Though we have to remember more Rebel ships fell to the ISD then the other way around and only truly whittled down in legs from other ISD's and New Republic ships
@@alexanerose4820 The comparison gets a bit wonky, because most of the on-screen ship-to-ship fights in Star Wars happen at _much_ closer ranges than most historical naval battles - at least the ones that involved armored ships with internal motive power and turret-mounted guns, which Star Destroyers and other Star Wars capital ships are clearly intended to emulate (rather than, say, ram-armed triremes or sailing ships of the line). The last generation of battleships (e.g. the _Iowa_-class) were intended to engage targets from over the horizon. The only battleship fights I can think of that happened at the kind of ranges we see in Star Wars would be the night actions at Guadalcanal, or certain parts of Jutland - situations where bad visibility or intelligence brought both sides much closer than planned - and even those don't come close to the traffic jam at Endor.
well they had mass tie fighters and tons of cruisers is just if shields failed the spaceship failed
It was really made to fight the Yuuzhan Vong
"Welcome to this midday service to God knows where." I don't know why but I lost it at that line.
I found my mantra for life
Captain: "Follow the Rebels through the asteroid field. What's the worst that can happen?"
*Asteroid smacks and blows up the bridge*
Captain: "Oh my Go--!!"
First Officer: It was either this or apologizing to Lord Vader, you KNOW what happened to Captain Needa when he apologized
*surprised pikachu face*
the *worst
Stephen Lutz that’s why you use amour on your bridges to protect them
@@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 Or just not have your bridge on a big, exposed stalk that sticks right out from the hull and may as well have a giant Neon "Shoot Here" sign, especially when some Brainlet figured that point defenses were for nerds
*Upon seeing the Sojourn release date* A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Hopefully it won't be entirely locked behind a patreon paywall I don't trust that website's security
Evil Space Dorito
These ships also look awesome when rising out of clouds, like in that new Squadrons trailer
Rising from clouds, yes.
Surfaces of ice, no
*looks at Rise of Skywalker*
@Silver- -Nexus Those were sized up Imperial-1 Class Star Destroyers.
@@Sov-Ryn15 Or from beneath the city, in that one X-Wing book!
Daniel, you've decieved me. I'm very happy that you've done so.
What a glorious ship, perhaps my favourite in All of Star Wars.
Sam dale no the Republic star destroyer is the best
It's just a shame that we never really got to see it performing as it should, thanks to the severe case of Hero Ship syndrome that the Star Wars universe is built on.
Seeing Billion-ton warships, built to fight with weapons emplacements the size of skyscrapers, getting wrecked by fighters a trillion times smaller than themselves always put me off of the whole thing.
Ranger commander Vel ‘Vlarumai but it stands no chance is a battle with an isd. It would probably destroy it before it could deploy most of its star fighters.
@@rangercommandervelvlarumai7589 agreed the Venator is the alot more sensible. Plus I would argue is superior to the ISD, reason for this is that the ISD represents the old naval doctrines. Where as the Venator represents modern naval doctrines.
@@jackcarroll22 not necessarily. A Venator could easily launch fighters and bombers from a another Star system and the ISD is screwed. I mean after all Y-wings have FTL drives and so does many of the fighters carried by the Venator. Thus would make the old days of broadside close quarters engagements a thing of the past.
Look no further than the 2nd world War, carriers could easily wreck any battleship before they get in range.
Well I came here for Star Destroyers, but to be honest I think I'm satisfied after the first minute, judging by the big ol' grin on my face. Oh yeah, and the rest of the video is pretty awesome too. Thanks guys!
Awesome. This is Super Awesome!!!
Nice to hear you again Larissa!!
If you've ever played X-Wing Alliance then you'll receive a huge appreciation as to just how powerful an Imperial II class Star Destroyer really is.
"Unfortunately, the Imperial II class, in addition to having no point defense emplacements, also suffered from a catastrophic lack of Plot Armor, which resulted in a profound casualty rate, and a general lack of effectiveness in nearly all encounters which involved plot-centric main characters. This deficit would lead directly to many pivotal defeats in battles where, going by logic, statistics, and force of numbers alone, the ships of the Imperial Navy should have been more than sufficient to win the day."
The Imperial 2 class had point defense, we see them use it in Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi. We also see the Thunderflair after being upgraded into a Imperial 2 using point defense weapons, with anti fighter cannons being able to fire in flack like mode, and it used anti-fighter proton munitions, all of this was scene in Blade Squadron.
The reason Spacedock is saying they dont, despite official lore showing otherwise, is because hes using the rpg game mechanics as the only source. It's one thing if the rpg was the only lore for the ship, its another when the official lore with multiple sources show a different picture than what the rpg does.
@Dread StarZ while not heavy, they are certainly no point defence systems as they have far too narrow and slow vertical and horizontal traverse to hit anything faster than another capital ship by virtue of manual control.
Fighter craft count as point defense and the ISD has 60 of them. The video even states this.
@@Innuendoes It is also listed as not having any point defences on Wookieepedia and in official materials. There was only ever a single shot shown of a Star Destroyer taking down a fighter and we never knew whether it was an ISD 1 or 2 that was in the shot but it makes more sense for it to be an ISD 1 since that model is listed as having point defences.
@@SonsOfLorgar always think of the casemated single gun batteries that make up the majority of guns on Imperial Is & IIs as analogous in role and operation to the casemated 4-6in secondary batteries on dreadnought style real world battleship.
And just like those secondary batteries IRL, they were made for the last war
The Imperial Star Destroyer, also known as the "ISD", "Destroyer", and "Oh SHIT, THAT'S BIGGER THAN I THOUGHT!"
Cut the chatter red 2
that's what she said!
The Sojourn anounced on a video about a Pizza shaped ship?!
Praise be Pizza the Roomba!!!!
Great video, as always!
Though, to be honest, the ISD 2 shouldn‘t have the drawing board, or maybe gone beyond a prototype phase, without Point-Defense. That‘s like... a WW2 battleship having no AA.
The Imperial 2 class had point defense, we see them use it in Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi. We also see the Thunderflair after being upgraded into a Imperial 2 using point defense weapons, with anti fighter cannons being able to fire in flack like mode, and it used anti-fighter proton munitions, all of this was scene in Blade Squadron.
@Dread StarZ My thoughts are don't even send capital ships against them. Just squadrons of X-wings to engage the TIE's and then Y-wings loaded with Ion torps to disable the ISD's and then the X-wings can proton them. Really what can the ISD's do?
@Dread StarZ The problem is where do you get a dozen or so Y-sings with decent pilots from scratch and how do you get them close enough to do damage while the ISD chugs out more TIE's? We need to remember: more Rebel ships fell to ISD's then the other way around. That's pretty damn effective
@@KenS1267 That depends: is the ISD's alone? Where would all the fighters come from? Does it have TIE fighters or interceptors? Are they the version in ROTJ where they had point defense? Heck if the TIE's get out fast enough along with the Gazonties then you can't really do much. The movies make it look easy but engaging an ISD is a campaign in it's own right. Remeber: more Rebel ships were destroyed by ISD's then the other way around
Though I agree that more point defense and better fighters would be a boost for the ISd's. Heck that's what the Ressurgence fixed
The ion cannons can be used as dual purpose against fighters.
3 years later and I'm here again. In my opinion this is the best science fiction space ship design I've ever seen until now.
It's just amazing how good these shots from the old trilogy still look after all this time. The detail in their models, the lighting, the framing, it was just fantastic.
Nice to see the ISD getting some love. Honestly one of my favorite capital ship designs in all of Star Wars. It always bummed me out that the ship gained a reputation being poorly designed. It's a well built ship for engaging other capital ships but it needs to be escorted. The Empire simply didn't use it right.
You had me in the first half Spacedock, I just can't lie to you.
For a warship so big, and needing such a large crew to operate, you'd think it would have a much larger compliment of fighter craft to defend it. It seems too dependent on its heavy weaponry when we've seen numerous times how ineffective they are against taking out small attack fighters.
That's the Tarkin Doctrine in a nutshell; sacrificing tactical advantage for psychological terror
@@christopherwall2121 Didn't ISD ones have a decent point defense?
Really star destroyers should've been always with escorts in the movies. It would've made tactical sense and make the star destroyer look more epic by giving it an expendable comparison to either be sacrificed or to show power difference.
@@JakeBaldwin1 yes, the ISD 1 had point defense systens (The class still remained in service years after Endor as well)
@@JakeBaldwin1 The ISD-1 has a point defense network, but it's quite rare by the time of the Original Trilogy, where it has largely been phased out for the ISD-2, which doesn't have any point defenses at all.
@@evanboll4651 this should be retconned. Such a stupid idea. Why should the Empire not equip the backbone of their Fleet with proper point defense when they were pretty much aware that they will mostly fight smugglers, pirates or small groups of rebels using fighter craft. It also makes no sense to have such a big weapon platform lagging this key functionality which was apparently very successful on their predecessors?
Who set this? Where is this written? SW is full of inconsistencies and I have the very much the feeling this is a biased concept based on perspective: Empire bad, Republic good.
I’m so glad to hear Larissa’s voice again. I will most likely listen to the audio drama just for her
I'm so happy to hear that you will be launching Sojourn soon, I remember when you first started talking about it and went over the designs! Can't wait to see it in August! Congratulations again!
I’ve been bamboozled and I couldn’t be happier
The Sojourn , finally , i cant wait for it :)
Last time I was this early, the Imperial I was still in production.
I APPROVE of 'The Sojourn' teaser before the main clip! I'm rather curious about it, now!!!
Again, nice job as always, Herr Orrett.
Good, our first catch of the day.
Yay, my favorite ship in all of sci fi!
That Sojourn trailer made my day!
So stoked about The Sojourn, Season 1, coming to ALL of us in August!
Thrawn was perhaps the best at evaluating the ISD. He believed it was a solid design. The Death Star was never needed. If star systems spun out of control, just build more ISDs. His thoughts on the weakness of the ship were its starfighters. He came up with a solution to that problem as well. If only they listened to him and let him manufacture the TIE Defender in mass. The empire would have been truly invincible.
Unpopular opinion: The TIE Defender was an over-engineered piece of garbage. We see regular TIEs have no problems taking out X-wings in Ep4, and TIE Interceptors do a good job in Ep6 as well. Slap some light shielding on them just so they don't get taken out by a random piece of debris or a micro-asteroid, and they're good to go in terms of what the Empire already had. If Thrawn wanted to aid the Empire with a fighter, he would have made it a two-person fighter with a rear gunner. He also would have redesigned it to make it SMALLER so more of them could fit in a hangar. Have a single wing in-line with the cockpit and have tilt wings that fold down to not only make the craft smaller but also act as landing gear.
Of course in reality the fact that a ship like the Falcon exists in Star Wars renders fighters of any kind moot. It's roughly as fast and agile as they are, its shields are able to soak multiple direct hits, its hull was even able to survive an unshielded glancing blow from a First Order TIE in Ep7 (during the escape from Jakku), it has a complete 360 degree field of fire offering no advancing craft a safe attack vector, and it has munitions powerful enough to take out other ships (concussion missiles). Militarize it by getting rid of the dead space (things like the cargo and smuggling compartments, crew quarters, and so on), toning down its hyperdrive to a more reasonable level, etc, and you have yourself something that can take on multiple fighters simultaneously and win, while relying on its ordnance to engage other ships, and should by this point be small enough to easily fit several in a hangar (especially of a 1.6km long ship!). A larger version, keeping some of the crew comforts and cargo space, could even be used for independent assignments, carrying out the day-to-day tasks of the Empire (dealing with pirates and smugglers and whatnot) in far off systems and such. They'd certainly do better than a gozanti cruiser with a couple TIEs latched on.
I think I can say that I'm not the only one who's been waiting for *everything* in this episode with bated breath!
The Star Destroyer has got to be most iconic Capital Ship in all of Science Fiction.
Most iconic maybe. Deadliest? not even close. Certian Scifi properties have ships that could solo the entire imperial navy single handedly death stars included.
@@vonfaustien3957 Single an ISD? Perhaps. The entire damn navy and a planet-killing moon base with kilometer thick armor? Now you're smoking something my friend
@@alexanerose4820 borg cube maybe? idk
CLash A single Borg cube trying to take on the entire Imperial Navy wouldn’t stand a chance. One ISD? Maybe it could take that. Three, four, five or more ISDs? I highly doubt it. And the DS-1 Battle Station? Not a chance. The raw firepower advantage held by the Empire, combined with the inability to beam drones aboard anything without first blasting the shields down, gives the Borg one hell of a mountain to climb.
@@crabbyguy2737 It also depends on how borg adaptive shielding works. As presented in Star Trek, the empire would need to eliminate the cube *very* quickly because their weapons arrays are relatively simplistic compared to Star Trek's. (Not saying they aren't as powerful, just that they do one thing very well). As presented in the show, adaptive shields are essentially "god mode" against anything that they've adapted to, so once turbolasers and ion cannons have been adapted to then the empire will be very slim on options. The federation had to leverage their highly variable equipment, both in their phaser arrays and also their magic plot disk I mean deflector array in order to stand a chance... and as far as I understand, turbolasers really only have one setting.
Now if adaptive shielding is just "take 1% damage" rather than "take 0 damage", then I 100% believe that the empire would wreck a cube.
The Sojourn? I forgotten about that project with the great Voice of The Institute Larissa Thompson. They might be using an backup right now but she will always be the Voice of The Institute to me. And it should be a fun ride to she how the story of the Sojourn goes. I am still surprised that there are not more content like that on RUclips.
Thank you for all your team's hard work that you do.
Man... I just cant wait for the Sojourn! The lore of the Tantalus cluster is really a worldbuilding inspiration... Big fan
I see three major weaknesses to this ship:
1 There seems to be a blind spot behind the thrusters you could park a frigate in.
2 The position and layout of the landing bays look like it would be awkward to deploy or retrieve fighters during battle.
3 Who can forget the com tower?
Glad to see you kept the sojourn up Daniel great job.
I won’t lie; I let out a literal squeal of happiness when I saw this video
Daniel, I find your choice of the "Emperor's Theme" for background music excellent for this video. Keep up the great work.
Like that Sojourn animation. Reminds me of the style used in 'Homeworld'.
Just those snippets of the improved art, animation and acting are already amazing. The Sojourn is probably the show I'm most looking forward to right now. Even though I won't be able to watch it when it first airs, but oh well. And that probably-villain became even more intriguing now.
That was a jumpscare and a half... holy shit I am stoked
Seeing the teaser on the Sojourn Twitter: excitement
Seeing title and thumbnail of todays video: sadness
Seeing the teaser an the beginning of the video: massive hype
Nothing is scarier than a geometric design. Borg Cube, Star Destroyer, UFO Disk Ship.
Love your Brit accent. Fits in well with classic "Core World" accents from Star Wars. Like I'm getting a briefing in a Rebel base by a former Imp officer.
At 4:10 Millennium Falcon taking a piggyback ride upon a unsuspecting ISD
I'm so FREAKING EXCITED for The Sojourn!
I can't wait for Sojourn!!!
Woohoo Sojourn!!! Well done Spacedock, it's looking epic.
Originally started watching bc ,
"Omg he hasn't done this ship yet?"
And then the sojourn teaser just dropped the biggest hype bomb I've had in months!✌️😁👍
Yes please!
Still miss Larissa over at the institute though. But this+the stories works too!
An excellent episode as always guys. I also love the use of the emperor's theme in the background, this just nails down the threat of an ISD.
Hopefully one day I can invent star destroyers and I can have an Imperial 1 class
The Galatic Empire Needs an Additional One Hundred Quadrillion ISD1S and One Hundred Quadrillion ISD2s
THE SOJOURN IS COMING! FINALLY!
Very well done, my friend.
I love Star Destroyers. This one, along with the Super Star Destroyers, are amongst my favorite ships in Star Wars!
Also, Can't wait to see The Sojourn! :-D
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EVER SINCE YOU ANNOUNCED THE SERIES!!!!
SOJOURN TEASER
IT'S HAPPENING
Man I love the sight of Flying Space Doritos :D
Oh, crap. Can't believe this. For some reason, I actually thought I had already backed the Sojourn kickstarter, but...I didn't. I went through hell for a while there and didn't come up for air until just a couple of months ago. LONG (and painful) story. Medical and legal stuff, so put 2 and 2 together. Came out the better for it in one respect, but still in VERY rough shape physically. Somehow through it all I thought I backed it. In my defense I had a lot going on, though. :/ Oh, well. I guess I can still enjoy the videos when they come out. ;) It looks to be awesome! Glad ot got funded!
Dude I love that your intro and outro music is battle zone 2 😌🙌🏻
Love thoses wedges!
btw gread choice of music, emperors theme fits well with his toys.
I am so excited for the Sojourn!!!
When you get The Sojurn news. Nice.
Larissa!!! I missed your voice. Can’t wait for Sojourn!
about got dam time for the sojourn
Wow, the intro got the Sojurn was amazing
The Sourjon. FINALLY!>D
I still want to bet that a fully equipped Venator would win against a fully equipped Imperial II. Of course not in point blank slugging but at a distance, the Venator has a gigantic advantage. A functional point defense grid, like 7-8 times the number of fighters/bombers, oh and it's way nimbler. The Venator would have no trouble keeping out of the effective firing range of the Imperial II and constantly send bomber wave after bomber wave. It's like a bear trying to fight a wasp nest that has legs and is faster than the bear.
Yay the Sojourn is back
Sojourn! I'm so ready!
Whoo! The Sojourn is coming!
Sojourn looks like it will be great
Palpie just loved those things.
Happy birthday to the Sojourn science advisor Gabriel
No idea how you know this but it is very much appreciated!
Because a year ago on the Apollo 11 video i said it was my birthday then you said “dude same”
@@argus2389 Ha! That's a good memory you have there! Happy birthday for you as well!
Should be a good memory, I watched that video yesterday
The sojourn hype is real
Nothing like 25% of a video advertising something else to bring me joy.
Omg I was not expecting that Sojourn teaser. You got me hyped!
Loving that Sith theme background music
Imperial I is my second favorite star destroyer.
The Xyston class is the number one favorite star destroyer.
Good luck with the Sojourn launch. Guinevere is in fact my dog's name (my partner wanted 'Princess' but luckily for the dog I like Welsh names) so clearly it will rock :)
Yass finally The Sojourn is coming!
I mostly just like them, because they're colossal arrowheads... in space! 😎
I loved the video as always but... That announcement for the Soujorn made my day much better than it could get!
I am actually excited for The Sojourn
Now that's a birthday gift.
One of my MOST favorite stsrships in Star Wars!!!!
Liked and enjoyed watching another AWESOME vid.
And I am TRULY looking forward to The Sojourn!!!!
Nice to see Larrissa around again
I think it would be cool to do a dissection of a ship from elite dangerous (ie; Krait MkII or anaconda or something). I don’t know though, I’m not a RUclipsr
Glad to see the sojourn coming soon. i hadn't heard much about it lately.
Anyone here still remembers the Tie fighter short film? It is still as awesome as it was back then, just sayin'.
Thx Spacedock nice to hear a narrative that's not Eurovision from my beloved city. I'm sure an Imperial presence will be there soon ; D!