even men don't trust other men*... but we're supposed to? lol no.
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In this episode of her podcast, Elle dives into the discussion around women's fear of men, triggered by a social media trend where women were asked to choose between being trapped in the woods with a man or a bear. Elle unpacks the universal fear women have towards men, supported by various anecdotal evidence, literary examples, news articles, and personal experiences. She also discusses the societal gaslighting that occurs when women express this fear. Elle highlights the importance of understanding that men are aware of this fear, often using it to their advantage. She further criticizes men's lack of empathy and the victim-blaming that occurs when women are attacked. Throughout the podcast, Elle advocates for women's safety and empowerment, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and caution when interacting with men.
I wouldn't be risking prison if I defended myself against the bear.
If you shoot a bear even after it's done attacking you, you're gonna be called brave and smart
THIS
The thing that makes me hesitant about choosing the bear is that the poor bear would pay with its life for being a bear. A man would get off the next day.
FACTS
SAY IT LOUDER
I stopped taking the train to work because of men. I was physically grabbed, harassed, and followed multiple times until I figured it's not worth the gas and parking savings to keep doing this. My male co-worker asked me why I stopped taking the train, and I told him. He said, "Hmm, I've taken the train for years and never had a problem." I said, 'That's because you're a man,' and it was like a light flicked on. This man is in his 50s and oblivious 😐
I’ve had a lot of bad experiences with them on the train as well 🧍🏾♀️
I had a 2-3 hour public transport commute to my first job when I was 18 so I’d be leaving work around 6 pm coming home around 8-9 pm. It was so scary some nights waiting at the station for the next bus or train as a very small 18-year old girl. I got approached by all sorts of creepy older men, some clearly could’ve been my father or grandfather. Ended up quitting that job after a few months because the commute was not only so long but so dangerous for me.
People around you in public will literally watch you get sexually harassed and walk away. I had to get back in the subway train once and go to a public library and wait for a family member to pick me up so that a man wouldn't be able to follow me home. People hate gentrification, but I'll say that harassers who are jobless will often hang in areas near the main streets and harass women/girls who go to work/school. In some places they put fences to get these men to find a new spot and it's a relief. Living in a nice area also lessens the street harrassment.
@@chidiogoikeh4550I’ve heard gross and disgusting stories about men on subways in NYC, too. I read a book by one of the current feminist authors who said when she was in middle school (I think) she was on the subway, it was packed, and this man right behind her kept bumping into her. When she got home, she found a white sticky substance on the back of her coat. I was so grossed out! And that’s besides the men who would grope her. To think of that happening to a 12 or 13 year old girl. Ugh! But, unfortunately, that is the age a lot of us are when we start becoming aware of men doing creepy things. When I was about 12, I was walking home from the theater on a Saturday (it was only about a mile, and I knew the area very well, and I walked that far every day walking home from school). I noticed this guy in a car slow down as he passed me and he gave me a very creepy smile (very predatory) and waved his hand (more like wiggled his fingers) at me. After he passed, he turned around and passed me again. Same creepy smile and finger wiggle/wave. After he passed I saw him slow down and start another U-turn, and I hightailed it outta there! I ran to the nearest business I knew and used their phone to call my mom (this was before cell phones). That’s when I started understanding men’s intentions.
@@kgs2280 I’ve heard too many terrible things about men in NYC in general. It’s so disheartening
Ask these men if they'll leave their daughters with a man.
Many of them will....sadly!
Ask these men if they will choose either a bear in the woods or prison with men
Ask them if they would let their daughter date an older guy… I asked this question to someone who was in his 30s and he said no while he was hitting on me.
Sad they need to hear it about their property before they care
Or little boys, or animals or anything at this point. I know y'all heard about the 4 guys getting arrested over a monitor lizard
Men still don’t understand why women choose bears over men on purpose.
Exactly. Willfully ignorant
I think they do. They're just playing dumb.
Ehhhh, they do. They are *that* man.
@@luna-pWhen I was 20 I thought its maybe 20% of men, with 30 I thought maybe 50% and now I think its 80%. Honestly.
@@NidzShah-ps6krThey do, but they deny it because they think they have to defend other men. It’s bro code. They can’t EVER make any man look bad.
Can we talk about the men are now saying “if I had to choose between a woman or a bear in the woods, I would choose the bear because the bear won’t annoy me”. They are worried about us nagging or annoying them while we are afraid of the things worse than death that they do to us.
Literally.
No, they just trying to offend and hurt, calling us annoing
@@NeistovayaChupacabra oh I know, they are feeling butthurt and think by saying that that we will also feel butthurt. It’s sad that this is what they are doing instead of reflecting and thinking about why we are choosing the bear
“Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.” - Margaret Atwood. When men say stupid things like that, just laugh at them. That’s what they’re truly afraid of at the end of the day anyway. They will never understand because they’re actively choosing not to understand and if they really wanted to learn, they would seek out the knowledge themselves.
Thats pretty dumb. I'd 100% rather be stuck with a woman. Based on the way women answer the question, whoever I'm stuck with would see me, a random man in the woods, and immediately try to distance herself from me. Then I'd just be by myself which is way better than being stuck with a bear
Male Logic: Mocking women for their trauma and fears will totally prove they're safer 😍
Don't care about what they say
The same with them harrassing women for opting out of contact with men in general as if it is some kind of lovable and/or erotic. When I ask some of them if they think their reactions make them more desirable I never get an answer. They are not capable of love.
Trauma and fears created by men themselves
They'd rather punish the women for being afraid than try to become better people.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This topic has brought out male victims of male sexual abuse on TikTok.
It’s sad that these men are ALSO BEING ATTACKED for choosing the bear. Literal men who have been victims of male assault are being harassed and victim blamed and called gay for being attacked by men. All because these men KNOW they are dangerous to everyone and are upset that people are actively avoiding them for their own safety.
By doing that they show off their mindset.
Calling a man gay for being sexually assaulted by another man is fxcking crazy. Not to mention the underlying homophobia in that sentiment. Not to mention them thinking sexuality assault a type of exemplification of someone's sexuality. Omfg.
At this point I’m ready for bears to come out and say they don’t want to be alone in the woods with men
I saw that too. " Four bears won't hold you down taking turns " God no one deserve it. Man or women . Even men are choosing bears 🐻🐻
I've noticed that when a man posts about being graped by other men, the people most likely to ridicule them are, yep you guessed it, other men. They get zero sympathy from these men. However, the women in the comments are a lot more caring and sympathetic.
Proverbs 17:12 *“Let a man meet a ferocious bear robbed of her cubs, rather than the narcissistic fool in his folly.”* Someone said this in a chat the other day and I said “Wow, even the Bible says choose the bears!” 😅
Woa
#thebibleisalwaysright
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
well.. 😭Amen !
I saw that, too and was very surprised. I’m not religious, but I like it, and will use it. Thanks for the reminder.
The bear doesn't hate me just because I'm a female.
#proBear
And a bear would never grape you.
And you can still hide. He will not look for you and hunt you down if you stay put and out of his way.
@@Miel0312💯 exactly it's not about hate for the Bear.
@@kgs2280 it's ridiculous that the men come on here and try to say we're "crazy" for choosing the Bear. I'd rather be in any situation with any animal than a strange man. My odds are definitely better with the animals! #ichoosethebear
@LuckCat5577
This comment section sure is emotional. I think you’re all being disingenuous when you say you’d rather be stuck in the woods with a bear.
I've literally watched several TikToks of women telling bears to go away and the bears actually listened 💀A man (asterisk) could NEVER
Men will say “no means yes” lol
Omg lol this is so underrated
No bear's going to think your'e playing hard to get
@@LnvoMv a bear would growl as he left man would say you’re a b anyways
@@lalaland7961 They are kids with beards who don’t take no for an answer
Even if I legit WAS a real man-hater, big effin deal! Avoiding men is not equivalent to what men do to the women they hate.
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exactly. when a woman hates men, she avoids them. when men hate women, they still come looking for us. i think some hate us because they are absolutely obsessed with us and don't like the fact that we have the option to say no to them. so instead of admitting they want us, they go to the other extreme.
THIS
EXACTLY 💯🎯‼️
So true!!!!
The fact that men don’t understand this is kinda the whole problem..
They understand. They just don’t want to admit how screwed up most of them are.
@@Greenplanet949 yeah they're trying to cope and feel like they're "not one of them", but their approach is awful, like ik they get easily mad for "woke"
It's sexism, just plain sexism.
And we wonder why men and women are so divided.
You'd be surprised by how many males genuinely don't understand. I used to be one of them before my partner further enlightened me.
Some don't think of other random males. My initial response was "I'd obviously never do something like that to anyone, so what reason do they have to be afraid of me?"
Dumb way of looking at it, I know. But it happens
And from the same lense, most of us don't know or just go bragging about shitty things we do, so we often don't know any better ourselves when with other males. I'm pretty sure a LOT of us would answer the exact same way
@@grandempress1947 how is it possible bot to understand though i don't understand that at all i even think about the feelings of bugs how do, like.. i don't know ive had plenty of weird stuff, guys saying weird and uncomfortable stuff to me and as soon as i want to have a normal conversation that isn't about my body or what drugs im doing they get fucking mad, like what the hell, and i wouldn't understand how men wouldn't like understand this analogy because i just, there's no words i just keep repeating myself, hope doesn't come across rude, ive just noticed myself over the years talking about very serious things and absolutely no man would fucking just act like a normal person and take it seriously i don't understand all women do this ive talked to my whole life why won't they just.. be tolerable honestly, i really want some guy friends but oh my god, im just scared of men at this point, it's like we can't just have normal conversation about anything
At least bear wouldn’t make a podcast about female bears should be submissive and stuff.🙃
thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Ewwww fr. A bear would never 😂😂😂😂❤
bears wouldn’t put themselves on pedestals and open talk about not minding putting their hands on lady bears because they squared up to them🙄
AHAHAHAHHAAH!
"You need to be more careful" tells you that, if you ever actually are assaulted, your boyfriend will blame you and excuse the man who attacked you. You will not have support from that boyfriend. Time to say "goodbye" to that non-bear boyfriend.
Right , like they were just living . Well trying to live THEIR lives . How could they know a man would walk up to them . This is why most of us have stopped trying to deal with men . 🙄 # exhausting # never ending 😢
Right , like they were just living . Well trying to live THEIR lives . How could they know a man would walk up to them . This is why most of us have stopped trying to deal with men . 🙄 # exhausting # never ending 😢
I was followed home once by a guy. I told my ex and he laughed and said it’s my fault for attracting creeps. I’m so glad I’m no longer with him. He never protected me anyway.
Did you just miss the part where she talked about that with her bf. My God chill tf out
La question c'est comment un homme réagit lorsqu'il entend un autre homme disons son frère ou ami qui a été victime de viol de la part des hommes en prison ou a l'armée? Est ce que des hommes éprouvent de la compassion envers eux mêmes? De l'indignation de la colère de la rage?
As I and many others have said before about this wonderful topic: people will believe me if I say I've been attacked by a bear.
DAMN! And they wouldn’t ask you what kind of underwear you had on.
@@alwaysyouramandaor if you ate cereal out of a bra.
Yes 100% and you bear attack story would be talked all the time and would 100% be cautions of the bear and the area you were attack
and you don't feel shame in admitting about a bear attack
YES!!! Exactly smh
Everyone tells me not to walk at night, not to take the metro, not to do this, do that WE ARE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS if public amenities are not safe enough for us to use
It's not safe and women who don't listen to caution will be blamed for the assault. It's not fair but it's a very real reality.
@@khrisi9410 I was offered a new job role last week but I didn’t take it due to the finish time being 10pm and having to walk through the city alone at that time. I thought to myself, if I am attacked I will be blamed for walking alone. Not worth it!
That's india for you
@@Biya666 I’m American 🇺🇸 I feel for you Indian sister
@@khrisi9410 it’s not safe at daylight either
Not all present fathers are good fathers.
We call them, NPC fathers who are always married to Pickmeisha mothers.
Facts. My father was present and the root of all my trauma.
@@deepforestfiresame
Yup. My father was my worst ab*ser. I ended up dating and then even marrying men like him. I’m so happy to have removed all of them from my life and broken the cycle. Lots of therapy ❤ learning to trust men at all again is extremely difficult.
Yup. Mine's physically present, not emotionally. We don't really have a relationship, we just exist together and he nags me about things and i try to talk to him but he ignores me🤷 there are also man ab**ive fathers etc
Lots of women are speaking from experience, I see bears often where I live and they've always been polite.
so unfortunate that as a Canadian I can confirm that all bears are polite but most men aren't
And when you're loud enough, they are spooked and run away. Men wouldn't lol
At least a brown bear will leave you alone if you look dead 🤷🏾
They’re like big raccoons…they just want to go through your garbage.
I live where there are black bears. Never once had a bad run in. They just stayed where they were or scurried off.
Girls, have high standards, be hard to get, be “unrealistic”, be ambitious, have rules and have many things you consider red flags! You are picking a partner for life, not toilet paper! If he isn’t loving, protective, loyal , respectful and giving he isn’t it!
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Like that is the bare minimum😭😭😭 like why is it a bad thing to want a decent man? Its because they aren’t that man
@@letyv9071 I remember hearing somebody saying that for the first time in history men have to depend on their personality to get a wife and now they are struggling because they can’t hold money over our heads.
He must be a protector, a provider, a maintainer, and a replenisher.
We all lock our doors each night because of MEN. Not women. Not bears. MEN
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Keep Targeting 'Men'.
Fear enough, i never imagine a woman breaking in.
@@KashyapKashyap-zb5hgsomeones mad😂😂
@@OreoOreoCookie234 if people Target ' women ' a lot women will also be mad specially if they were innocent.
Of course the Bear prefers to be stuck with a woman in a Forrest, because a woman has no interest in killing it and displays his corpse as a trophy.
There are women hunters.
Exactly, even if you flipped the question around, 99% of animals would also choose a woman over a man!
@@gladitsnotme do you hear about the four guys that graped a lizard?
@zom6i Exactly. I heard they were " doing " domesticated animals . Dogs , goats , etc , but a lizard blew even my mind . 🥺😡 # team bear 🐻 🐻❄
@@cocoace7587 mankind has no limits. I remember the shity phrase a hole is a hole, I didn't think about that so much, but as a grown woman I know now what it means and the truth behind that.
It’s just nasty how many dudes are responding do this by saying “oh, the bear would be begging to be saved after five minutes with a woman” or making worse jokes. And when you point out that they’re acting horribly they start insulting you or deflecting it by trying to say “oh, girls abuse men too and ruined men’s lives with fake accusations.” Yeah, that’s horrible, too, but they clearly don’t actually care about men being abused until they can use it as an excuse to say nasty stuff about women.
Those men are why we chose bears
They say "Men are logical beings" after coming up with illogical and unrealistic scenarios based on stereotypes like bear listening to you talking for a debate point.
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That’s exactly it. They never EVER mention abuse that women do unless it’s to redirect blame off of other males who do horrific shit.
@@small_dropin_the_big_ocean995 you really need prizes for your amazing comment 🗿🍷
Another thing to mention, how come when women use the “I was r@ped!” card when it didn’t actually happen is it so easily believed?? Almost like enough men being bad often enough makes horrible things that didn’t happen plausible, thereby making things harder for not bad men. Of course the women that do this are trash, men need more compensation after this and fake accusing women need to be imprisoned, but the point still stands that they can only get away with it because of the patriarchy.
the worst thing a bear can do is to kill you. but *men...
Right they'll beat you, unalive you, and then do things to your corpse once you're unalived. Truly terrifying
Right?? And at least the bear would kill me and eat me for sustenance or have killed me out of a genuine fear to protect itself, whereas who knows why or what with a man…
Junko Furuta case, Frietzl case…
If you don’t know, I advice you to look it up with caution.
And if you don’t have evidence if you survive it,you’re a lier and trying to destroy a poor man’s career.
@@missrebel634 may their souls rest in peace 🙏🥺❤
Men often look for victims. My mother died when I was 15 and up to her dead NOO ONE asked me out or anything. After she passed I had boys swarming me…the worst is they even said they thoughts it’s hot that my mom is dead. My ex even admitted he wanted me cause he knew I was an easy target to manipulate. Whenever I think about this time I am absolutely disgusted!
Wow, that’s awful to hear I’m sorry this happened
This
And that's exactly why they always prefer very young women and girls
I’m so sorry this happened to you 😓
Absolutely true. They're highly attracted to easy victims and suffering
That’s completely disgusting. I’m sorry you went through that and hope you’re doing okay now ❤❤
The fact that my brother was telling me the same thing, he once said "men are afraid of men for the same reason women are "😢
*Homophobia lore*
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c "Men being afraid of the men, for the same reason women are" Aren't always aligned fairly, as gay/queer and even black men have been historically demonized in media to be "agressors", while denying the double standard for women who go through this experience by ten fold more often by the same men who "fear" Being "liked by a man".
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c RUclips doesn't like it when i reply so im gonna have to protect censor the comments partly.
Queer/Gay especially black queer m*n have been historically in media inaccurately portrayed as "agressors",
Straight men often come up with this " Fear" Of being hit on by another man,
while rejecting the double standards that wom*n, and queer people disproportionately face, under the experience of m*n (closeted, and not).
Meanwhile it is mostly these same m*n that wom*n feel unsafe about.
Thus enter the *Homophobia lore*
This right here. i was trying to tell a stubborn man that if he would happen to be murdered, his murder would most likely be a man. Men are dangerous to other men. but women are suppose to just suppose to tough it out.
@@lordnokia4222 how is that homophobia?
Two stories: (1) I am 33 and I just went to the gym for the first time six months ago. My dad LECTURED me about how seducing gym trainers are and how I should always have my guard up around them. I repeat, I am THIRTY THREE.
(2) I live with my 84 y/o grandpa. My mom, sister and I used to joke about how he thought he was young and strong, because whenever I come home late, he gets down from the apartment to the sidewalk and walks me home. Just NOW I have realized that even an 84 year old male presence is safer than being a young woman on your own.
Men* only respect other men
My brother is seven years younger than me My mom and I were safer when we were with seven-year-old BOY than alone with just the two of us girls. We get cat calls daily when my brother is with me all they do is look.
He understands his presence is a deterrent even at his age. And a needed deterrent, unfortunately
Goes to show it’s men not respecting women, they respect men regardless of age.
@@alexisalvarez9629 it's because they see you as owned so they don't need to put you in your place
I've been followed, sexually harassed, groped, etc. probably around 100 times give or take a few in the past 22 years as a pedestrian and someone who rides public transport. I can bet that any woman who has been dependent on the bus her whole life has had the same experience. It isn't all men but it is most of them if no one else is watching. I'll never forget one particular experience where I was walking home from work at night at 27 and I passed a group of teenage boys but they were taller and physically fit and the got excited when they saw me and one of them started yelling, "Me and you are gonna f***!" He was so aggressive and his little friends were laughing and cheering him on as he started following me with his group of friends behind him and I was so scared in that moment that I was going to get gang raped by a group of kids. I literally took off running because I had a really bad feeling in the pit of my stomach that when he said, "Me and you are gonna f***!" That he meant whether or not I agreed. They had followed me for longer than I expected but once I took off full blown running he gave up and they were all laughing. That's how dangerous the world is for women, we have to fear being raped and murdered by literal male children. It's disgusting that society is that unsafe for women.
Around what area are you from, if you’re comfortable mentioning it? I’ve been taking public transportation for 17 years in a couple mid-size cities in Canada - only had 2 incidents, and I’m a short weak woman. I don’t doubt you, just wondering what the huge discrepancy is. Men show their creepiness here too, but I guess not on public transportation but literally everywhere else - grocery stores, parks, parties, bars, etc.
@@reckonerwheel5336 Phoenix, AZ. I'm also 5ft 0 and 105 pounds most of my life so...east prey there are more ppl in California than all of Canada....so that's one reason
@@aurora8749 You know, when I think about it, maybe it’s weather. Just too cold to be doing anything on the bus except staying warm in your jacket, hat, boots and mitts lmao
With all the migration and social economy stuf and blablabla here in Germany there are at least two officially reported gangraps PER DAY
I'm so so sorry this happened to you. My heart goes out to you. This is beyond scary and disgusting... I also fear the same... because in a fight, even if they are younger than you, there is so much danger and risk
Men aren’t even hired for funeral homes for a reason. It’s so sick and scary.
For real?
Male morticians are the standard in the industry, Females usually run the PR side. So no, not banned by any measure in America.
@@thimalidassanayake some funeral homes have that policy
My stepdad raped my grandma's corpse in the funeral home and when the lady who just got hired reported it to the police they told her they don't care and the boss who was male in the funeral home told her its normal and that she should get used it and just give men privacy and let men do what they want with the corpses. She said he told her it's a form of grieving. I told her it's not. It's corpse rape. I talked to her, my stepdad, my mom, and the police about it and they did not care and did nothing. I tried to convince the woman to quit her job so she wouldn't be around corpse rapists who might also rape her, but she insisted she needed the job and had to stay. The police refused to rescue my sister and me from our situation at the time, which was rape, incest and human trafficking. My grandma had been raped over 5 years at the nursing home while she had Alzheimers by many family members and had been murdered by my stepdad during one of his rapes. Nursing home staff knew and I was told they also raped my grandma. This was in Racine, Wisconsin, USA in 2007. The whole situation really messed me up and made me extremely suicidal. I disowned everyone and escaped eventually.
@@lemurlover7975 I am sorry stay strong!!! 💪
Bear attacks are fairly rare, while men proudly claim to be solely responsible for building societies that pose an increasing threat to all life on Earth.
Heck…even the _bears_ would rather be unalived by one of their own than face the indignity of some fool taking selfies with their corpse and being used as a rug.
✨This. All of this.✨
And they forget that many societies were built when women had no rights or very few. The fact that they use this as a clapback is laughable.
Yes the “risk” of being around men (physical & sexual & financial & emotional risks) is so not worth their companionship because they are socialized to be less empathetic than women are.
Interesting you also listed financial abuse. I’ve seen this becoming more of a topic and I’m her for it, haha.
I love the words we have now to describe different influences of power.
But they contribute with some DNA. I hope for the good of humanity that there IS some sort of thing triggering in their brain when they become fathers.
@@paradox9369 There is. Men with higher levels of oxytocin are better fathers than those with testosterone. I don't remember the study but there was one which showed fathers having higher Oxytocin levels than men who are like... in their 20s
@@redleeks6253 this rhetoric is incredibly harmful and the reason why they justify their crimes. They're NOT biologically less emphatic or loveable or anything. They were EDUCATED to be this way. Testosterone doesn't make you less emphatic. Traditional gender roles do. Bffr.
@@mazhiang_dishia_ this!!!
It's not just the absence of fathers in the home, a lot of us had the presence of a father but we still ended up not knowing the true nature of men.
Well when you've been guilted and gaslight to think men are mostly safe...
@@DimaRakesah Exactly, happened to me and I fell flat on my face a few times because of that. Now I've learnt my lessons but ugh so much trauma that could've been avoided...
The presence of an ab*sive father can be just as harmful
My father is very much present but he's constantly berating my mom and treating her like she's less than him and acts like he's the most important person ever and only he matters and I've had to listen to them yell all the time at each other and argue for years. I still only learned how dangerous men can be not from him but from the internet.
Even when your father is present, loving, caring, and a genuinely good person, sometimes they are just so out of touch with the reality of misogyny in the world that they dont teach you any of this at all bc they dont even realise it is there everywhere. Bc they are good men and dont think this way about women, they think its a ridiculous idea that the majority of men does. There is many oblivious men like this, they know it exists but for them its so distant they think its the exception, or a minority. They dont realise they are the ones that are the exception. Or they just dont wanna face the reality that their daughters are gonna live this. My dad is a good guy yet I have had to explain and argue so many times with him about common sexism and what women have to endure. Its crazy to me how ignorant a lot of men are about stuff thats literally happening all the time all around them everywhere and to everyone
I'm going camping in afew weeks and one of my biggest concerns is men in nearby campsites.
No fr…when I camp I get kind of worried about bears but I’m much more afraid of walking up to a man outside my tent.
Female hiker here and same! So glad I have a dog I can take with me that “looks frightening”. Kids really don’t care about shapes and sizes but men seem to keep more distance.
Especially in summer when men groups go do dumb shit in the woods I get nervous. Half of them are drunk and they’ll try to bribe my dog to come over using their grilled food. Some just like dogs, the others want to get me to stay 😢 obviously I don’t engage, haha
And no, I'm not looking for male approval (I know you must be thinking it)
please be safe, if you have any friends willing to go with you, invite them! there’s safety in numbers, but if not, maybe bring a pet with you and definitely some bear mace to scare off anything. i hope your trip goes well and you are safe! 🙏
I went camping a few weeks ago. As it got later, I put my cooler in the car and locked the door, per the bear rules, and headed down to my tent, with like 10 other people, half men, I barely know. I thought about the bear vs man thing for a bit and decided to also sleep in my locked car.
Ya’ll even animals aren’t safe and we all know what I mean. 👀
Animals and women are on the same side in this...👍🏻
Animals, children, socks, women, dolls, random things with holes…
@@iamReptarit’s so sad that this is true
Pies.
urg.
@@meganwalker27No, we not
Honestly the conversation surrounding this question right now on TikTok, especially TikTok live, is showing just how unhinged and terrifying men can be.
Getting so defended by this question is honestly showing how these men hate women. The men who are crying about women in a hypothetical situation wanting to be in the woods with a bear than them shows everything we need to know about them.
@@honeyedpeaches 100%. The only men bothered by this question are the ones who know they're not good people. The good ones that are actually capable of empathy understand how women feel and they understand that women still want to find partners, just not at all costs. My husband is not bothered by the question at all bc he's fully aware of how most men are and doesn't try to deny or defend men's behavior.
@@Ash-tree420 so true,women aren’t afraid of all men but we don’t have some kind of superpower to identify which men will hurt us because some fake it until the last minute,some get so far they’re a boyfriend,a husband,a father,an authority,etc. we can’t tell until it’s happening. The bear for the win.
@@honeyedpeachesgetting offended by the 4B movement was very interesting. One would think men at least would pretend to be happy now that women are distancing themselves with how much resentment they show us but no! How dare you not want to have sex or date or marriage?
Yup and I’m kinda glad they’re getting exposed. They immediately start fantasizing about women getting killed or hurt as their “karma” for not picking them 🥴
I remember seeing a post about a baby girl who was about 3 or something, I’m pretty sure she had been fleeing her country and was found at a border of another country. But she was found to have the DNA of like 79 men all over her, the comments under that post were foul, the boys and men in those comments were saying “let’s get it to 80” and “game is game”. Honestly after seeing that post and those comments I have been cold with any man that’s tried to talk to me.
At this point jail isn’t enough…
I'm shaking reading that. I cannot put myself in the headspace of someone who would see that as an opportunity to degrade a child even more than she had been.
@@tbobontiyudeath
Well let's play a little "game" with them then. How many fingernails can they lose without screaming?
right yet they have the audacity to say not all men
Even animals don't trust men. I have two cats, they were stray cats and the funny thing is that neither of them trust men. When my father (who is a very good man) tries to touch them or get close to them, my cats run away in fear, they are always alert around men but with women they become calmly docile, you can hug them, give them kisses, play with their whiskers. ..they just trust women.
I’ve actually heard a lot of animals are like that. I watched a video of this family, who ran a wolf nature preserve, introducing their son to the wolves when he was young, so they would know and not fear him when he got older.
It’s a proven fact that dogs prefer women over men and children. Children are annoying to the dogs, men’s deep voices and big frame seem threatening to the dog. Dogs feel more comfortable around woman because of the smaller frame and higher voice which is more comforting, that’s why we use baby voices to comfort our dogs
And a quick Google search about ‘dog men and women study’ shows they listen to women more. And it helps most vets are also women
So dog might be a man’s best friend but the feeling is not mutual I fear!
Cats are so aware! Are they female cats?
I know a lady who adopted a freaking parrot who, as it turned out, felt threatened enough by the mere presence of men that it would get into position for a preventive strike. And it wasn't like a tiny budgie, it was a huge red macaw, decades old presumably, that would swoop down and peck and claw at the face of any man that entered the room. She was completely dumbfounded because the bird had never been this way with her or any of the other women she had brought over, it was literally just all men that this macaw attacked. She ended up having to give it away again because the bird's misandry adventures got out of hand.
They probably had bad run ins with men. One of my dogs was abused by a man and did not like any of them for the rest of her life.
A few years ago, I was talking to my husband about women and SA. I was telling him that for men, statistically they are the most vulnerable when they are very young or very old. But for women, it stays the exact same for our entire lives. I saw an alarm go off in his eyes because he'd never even thought about it before. He's not perfect but he's learning and he's listening. And that tells me everything I need to know about him.
I have a circle of girlfriends all about the same age, early 50. When I drop them off at their house, I will always wait untill they are safely in their home and then drive off. Not long ago, one of them said to me, that surely I was being paranoid and that their was no need for being that cautious at our age. I replied exactly what you told your husband. Even women of 90+ years get SA.
When I got pregnant, I was surprised my husband wanted a girl. He has an older brother. He's in the Army.
But about 50% of his close friends are women. His favorite sibling is his "sister," his brother's ex whom he's known a fraction of the time he's known his brother. I think his whole family prefers the ex tbh...
He told me he's around men all day and he doesn't want that energy at home. He tells me the things he hears at work, he doesn't respect many of his coworkers.
The irony is, I think he would be a wonderful boydad bc he's so sensitive and empathetic. He doesn't believe in "boys will be boys" - he's a feminist who would raise wonderful men like himself.
That's so interesting.. What are his 3 big zodiac signs?
@Apricot90 oh I don't know. His sun sign is Leo, which is hilarious bc I historically haven't gotten along with Leos.Leo's.
Edit: but I know a lot of it is due to the way he was parented. He and his brother are very different (his brother is the one that comes after Leo), but their parents raised them right, for sure
Do you have a boy or girl?
Hoping yall have a long, secure, happy relationship and as many healthy happy kids as your heart desires
@@xletragedyx hey girly I am a leo too!!! Wonderful if he is in army!! Aa myself i did thought of joining army but, inflation stopped me!! Trust me he will be a leader!! Has a good moral ethics and all!! Be happy girly🤗 you got a good one!! The best thing you can do to him is small compliments and just watch him spoil the hell Outta you!
The overwhelming consensus is that sexual assault is worse than death. This is something people have said when given hypothetical questions like this, people have said it in mental health studies and recovery programs and to doctors.
We still don’t take sexual assault seriously as a society, but anyone who has ever thought about it for a minute, let alone experienced it will tell you it feels less despicable to have someone try to end your life than to use your body for their own satisfaction and pleasure.
By "society" you mean men. They're the only ones who choose SA over death. Btw, notice how everybody understood "men" = " SA", including men. Than they expect women to choose them, and will blame them if anything happens saying they should choose better.
I really hate how true this is. I remember around 20 realizing deep in my soul that I could not survive SA again. (I was SAd as a child by step grandfather.) I remember feeling this, as if I couldn't change it. It was just a natural progression. It took being sexually harassed and threatened out of a career for me to snap and wish for death like nothing else I've ever wished for (I did not do it and found a good therapist who cared) The hollow emptiness it can all create is so bleak you can become nothing. There's nothing to fight for if you're no one. Death by a bear? Much cooler gravestone than "the abuse destroyed her." My own father admitted it would have been more merciful if my abuser had killed me.
If I were a man, I would be sad and introspective about this. But they are just offended and trying to make this into a “misandry” issue, no reflection on why this may be. Yet do they trust other men with their daughters? NO!
You should do one on why society calls women girls instead of women. Literally infantizing grown women.
Like when they use "panties" instead of pants or underwear
We and society need to STOP SEXUALIZING yOUR CHILDREN.
Or why they like no body hair or small tatas or to be called daddy.
As someone who walks in the woods a lot and have encountered a bear twice, I do not underrestimate the danger of these creatures, but also
A bear would avoid me if they had any option to do that. A bear will probably leave me alone if I dont show any kind of aggression.
Of course im not super afraid of men even, but people screaming how bears are ruthless killing machines and men help us stupid women build a fire, I hate that narrative.
If you go to the woods ever, you have probably been close to a bear. They make themselves literally invisible.
I'm a survival instructor. I only take women out into the woods. When I took men out on survival trips, they would almost always behave foolishly. I said "no more".
@@ElizabethGeiger-ye1sf what did they do?
I'm interested too, what did they do?
@@cristinaratiu4535Refuse to listen and do what they're told. I would give them instructions and they wanted to argue and tell me that I don't know how to do my job. They had big delicate egos, would try to condescend me, and refuse to respect my knowledge and expertise. I keep people alive on wilderness trips for a living. I've never lost a passenger yet. Even the crazy egotistical males were brought home safely by my skills. But they would fight me about safety measures, which direction we should go, and so forth. They are terrible at following orders. It hurts their ego to follow orders, and since they believed that I was beneath them, they would simply refuse to listen and do what I told them to do. Some examples: They would try to hide food in their packs so they could snack in the middle of the night (major wildlife attractant, in the wilderness food has to be secured properly overnight), they would try to demand that we take a different direction than the one that would lead us back to the rendezvous point. They would argue that we should press on through thunderstorms instead of sheltering in place. These are Rocky Mountain summer thunder storms, complete with high winds and lightning. The weather would go from hot to freezing cold and pouring rain in a second. Hypothermia and shock are both real dangers in those situations, and they would try to demand that we press on as a group. Of course, I told them to go ahead if they it was so important to them, and several of them pressed forward. We found them further up the trail, in need of first aid. I would hunt small game to feed the group, in order to supplement our prepackaged rations, and they would try to eat all the fresh meat. They're like poorly behaved dogs. They would try to insist that we were lost, and try to create panic in the group. It never worked, the women always backed me up. But it was a battle. They would attempt to destroy the cohesion and morale of the group and sabotage the entire excursion. Which is super dangerous for us all. It was a fun game to them. They were cocky and didn't take any of it seriously. Every time I took a male or several males out I would regret it later. So eventually I banned them permanently. It's been peaceful ever since. I take my son out, he was raised correctly and he's a very respectful young man. I taught him survival skills from a young age. Most males don't respect Mother Nature. They think that Mother Nature isn't the boss of them. My son respects Big Mama. He knows that she will delete him in a moment if he gets arrogant.
@@ElizabethGeiger-ye1sf thank you for your answer.
My dad was very honest with me about men growing up. He didn’t preface it by saying, “but not all men” none of that crap, he just said what’s what and you can never 100% know a man’s intentions. As a result I didn’t take no shit growing up even though I had a bunch of low value men repeatedly try to bring me down and try to negotiate me about my boundaries. Never fell for it and never understood why other women fell for that crap but I think you’re onto something about them maybe not having decent men in their lives to teach them what’s what.
I grew up with a single mom. I'm 30 and still waiting for marriage. Not having a dad isn't an excuse for not having boundaries.
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@@terenarosa4790there are women who have boundaries and still have their boundaries disrespected. Sometimes people don’t learn about boundaries because they couldn’t have any as child with grown ups.
@@a.b.2405 mine have been disrespected too. You don't need to tell me this. I have them though.
My sire was there, but not present in my life. He taught me exactly what to look out for by being such a shtty person.
Me and my colleagues were chilling outside talking about whatever when one of my female friends asked the only guy with us (who was in a relationship) if he would be comfortable with letting his girl go to a night bar alone. The dude didn’t think much before telling us that he wouldn’t because he knows what men think in these places and he would be afraid about what would happen to her without him to protect her. Really makes you think…
Yeah, they definitely know how they are. Most of them just don’t wanna acknowledge that truth.
When you look into a bear’s eyes, you can see they have a soul, they have feelings, they have personalities. They wouldn’t do it for any other reason but survival. The men I’ve run into in dangerous situations all had dead eyes….
Dehumanization
dead eyes is a huge giveaway of a dangerous person. sociopaths are always referred to as having dead eyes, man or woman
@@arsena5209Although mental disorders do not equal evil. Those who haven't suffered and gain pleasure from harming us are the most dangerous. If someone was actually a sociopath they'd not feel anything. Men with dead eyes are the most dangerous. You see it in "people" like Trump or Netanyahu.
@@pinkymii072 its a myth that sociopaths dosent feel anything do.
@@pasteldad39boo hoo
As a girl who was assaulted at a sleepover... Valid.
Sorry for what happened to you 😢😢😢😢😢
I am terribly sorry 😔
Me too. The dad said to 9 year old me after kidnapping me from his daughter's room and raping me, "The sleepover is for me, not for my daughter. You ought to sleep in my bed now and not hers. That will make it so you don't turn gay. When two little girls sleep in the same bed they grow up and become lesbians." Then I started screaming and begged his wife to let me go back in his daughter's room to protect her from him and to protect myself from him. He kept on doing that every time his daughter and I had a sleepover. My mom knew and was fine with it. My teachers knew and were fine with it. They all said it would stop me from growing up and becoming gay, so it was justifiable. It was Idaho in 1991.
A bear will not touch a dead body but even a girls dead body is not safe with a man.
Men can act creep anytime ☕
@@lemurlover7975i’m so sorry. Not only was that man a monster… you were surrounded by them. I hope you have a happy and peaceful life
As a passing FTM i am HORRIFIED by the shit ive heard other guys say. Like ive heard them say such graphic and vile things that are "just jokes" for the sake of sick laughs from other men and then five minutes later get mad at a woman for saying "all men are trash"... No its not ALL men but until other humans are comfortable to be in a room around strangers (both men AND women sadly) then it is not safe to assume that "not all men are trash"
I was raised in a house with my grandfather, my father and a whole slew of uncles. They all told me most men are bad and to stay away from them. Then they told me I should get married. 🥴 To whom is my question. 😑
Sigh
Exactly!
a girl
Never said you gotta marry a guy
to a woman obviously! 😂
My own father was no angel to women: he was physically and verbally abusive to my mother and other romantic partners. He was a tyrant and ruled the house with an iron fist.....
....even he would have told me to choose the bear...
This same Dad, also taught his daughters: how to shoot a gun for protection, never get in a car with a strange man, ignore catcallers on the street, and most importantly, NEVER go out with a man who cant pay for your meal/entertainment
I like to believe, he raised us this way in the hopes we never encountered a man like himself....RIP Papa
He should have been a better person
@@C12341Yes. They’d rather turn away than face the truth because it’s more convenient. Not realizing that if they took the time to work on themselves, only then might they actually be more successful in relationships.
I can relate to what you wrote word for word.
Your experience is very relevant to me. My father is also incredibly strict and domineering, but as for my upbringing, he does everything so that I don't meet a man like him. Once he said that if my future boyfriend behaves the same way, just run and call him, he'll deal with it
@@C12341 i don't think they're offended or hurt, i guess some innocent and big time ignorant men might be, like they're real good men but they live in an ivory tower thinking every men out there are saints, they're rare but they exists.but many other men are just angry knowing they won't get easy prey anymore.
Sometimes I think about that BoJack Horseman episode where it becomes a trend for women to carry guns and the US moves forward on gun control because of it.
😂😂 yes
Of course THAT is when they crack down on the pewpews. When we actually need them.
My unhinged animal choice is that I choose Canada geese over men. In fact, the geese have become so protective of me, I can use them as attack geese when men bother me.
Canada geese are the worst, they have beef with everyone 😂
@@CB-dy1he while I do agree, I've also made friends with all the geese in my neighborhood. So I have a protective goose Mafia
@@ML-di8lt you are so awesome!
@@ML-di8lti finally found a person, who is worth to be my idol 😂
I was once attacked by a squirrel and I was believed, but the moment I revealed my mom's boyfriend sexually assaulted me, I wasn't believed.
guys on this trend pretending to be smart(er than the women's responses) by missing the point is very.... lol
I dealt with some many things when it came to men. I got SA, another attempted SA, groomed, stalked, and even sexual harassed by a man at my job. He sent a two guys to hurt me. Thank God I work from home now. I don’t interact with anyone from the outside world. I just go to the gym and my garden.
Junko Furuta was treated worse than she would have been a bear. I will take the bear.
I remember hearing her story for the first time and not being able to comprehend how “people” could inflict so much pain on a girl. It shook me to my core. The bear, always.
Unrelated but nice profile pic!
A bear will not touch a dead body but even a girls dead body is not safe with a man.
Men can act creep anytime ☕
A bear will not touch a dead body but even a girls dead body is not safe with a man.
Men can act creep anytime ☕
Poor Junko. I wish I could hold and comfort her. She was treated worse than an animal
@@iamjackspyramidshapedhelmet I always tell myself that they only revealed their true selves. Junko is still sweet and innocent and they can never change that.
I remember I called my older brother when I was scared, but he got up and sped to get me. I'm not tolerating my bf doing anything less than that. All the guys in my life chose the bear too, and agreed that seeing a man in the woods is terrifying! There's a subgenre of horror/slasher movies proving they're untrustworthy
And you know what's crazy? If men* were being asked if they would rather be in the woods with a woman or a bear, you know the first thing they would say is "the bear because it can't falsely accuse me of something". It's insane how twisted the perspectives of some men* are. They come so close to understanding the point only to dodge it at the last second.
"FALSELY accuse" Read as many times until you understand "falsely" "falsely" "falsely" Is that enough or do you still not understand? The crux of the problem is this. The truth is not what you feel at a given moment, you are not entitled to change your mind after the fact, what counts is your opinion BEFORE any decision, also before copulation, your feelings and emotions do not change reality. If you made the stupid decision to have sex with the wrong man, that's your problem. Adults call it responsibility.
Are you being deadass rn@@pawemarciniak4929
@@pawemarciniak4929all you’ve done is just solidify why women choose the bear
I suggested inviting a friend of mine (a guy) I've known for years to a camping trip we have with our all girls plus one guy group. He is the polar opposite of most men* and is very reserved, not a lecher at all. Even with my assurances my other male friend I've also known for years was still highly suspicious and wanted to investigate him before letting him come.
NO MEN just TRUST other men with women they are protective of. They know what their fellow men* can be like and are just lying to protect their sexual access to women.
my former male friend was looking for a simple job, i suggested nanny because it’s high demand and his sister makes easy money from it. Although he’s good with kids, he told me that he’d struggle to get a nanny job because people don’t trust men..and that he wouldn’t hire a man as a nanny himself.
Girlie pop the amount of tweets I’ve seen by men being so bothered by this and the retaliation memes they made. They prove their point by those memes having women be killed by the bears. I don’t know what this world is anymore
I'm a Canadian woman and I've seen literal wild bears walking through our yards to get to the woods. I've lived in northern foresty areas, in the Chaudieres-Appalaches mountains (the Canadian Appalachian mountains), and been SURROUNDED by wildlife of all kinds. Moose, bears, wolves, coyotes, large deer. I have never been attacked or felt threatened by a wild animal, however every single man in my life has hurt me in some way, shape, or form. Strange men have followed me, threatened me, and harrassed me. I'm picking the bear.
My father passed away when I was 16. Before that, boys treated me well, not long after dad died was when men starting using and abusing me. It's true - if you don't have a dad, men think they can treat you how ever they want.
a bear will kill you
a man will leave you alive, and keep coming back over and over again.
Yes its true... there was a special need girl in my country who got rape many times on the same day. He let her go because she was intectually disabled and he saw her again a few hours later and repeated the act. It was disgusting and horrifying.
A bear will not touch a dead body but even a girls dead body is not safe with a man.
Men can act creep anytime ☕
A bear will not touch a dead body but even a girls dead body is not safe with a man.
Men can act creep anytime ☕
I am glad you covered this topic. The fact that men only get why women are choosing the bear are men who are present in their daughter's lives.
I believe the men who are getting offended by women picking the bear, are feeling called out in some way.
With a bear, they'll take you to a hospital first, not a police station for questioning
Your not gonna live
A bear will not touch a dead body but even a girls dead body is not safe with a man.
Men can act creep anytime ☕
I don’t think men understand how evil they can be. Or maybe they know but want us to ignore their behavior?
They know, but if WE know then we'll be afraid of them and so finding a sexual partner is harder. They KNOW. They just don't want us to know, because then we'll avoid them. They don't want to stop being dangerous., they'd rather convince us they're ignorant.
@@YuniX2 we’re being collectively gaslighted.
The same guys who mock women for choosing a bear shut up real quick if you throw them a prison shower hypothetical where they're the weaker party.
"I've been both in a house with a man and in the woods with a bear ... Guess which time I was "graped"
That hit me. I can't stop thinking about it
My own brother told me to watch out and that MOST men are narcissists , selfish, and dangerous. Every time I start dating I call my older brother and tell him. He gives me the red light or green light on whether to continue. Shoutout to great older brother who love and care about their sisters ♥️
I had an ex that always policed what i wore and if i went to parties. I looked at it as him being over protectiveand annoying. After we broke up i linked with him stupidly bc i wanted someone to vent to, after me telling him multiple times that i dont want to pursue a relationship and especially nothing seggsual due to my mental state atm, I finally met him he grabbed me by the neck and forced himself onto me. The dude that i never thought would hurt me. He proved to me that night what he meant all them times he was saying those things about not wanting me around other men, i just never knew it would be him to teach me that lesson
sorry this happened to you
i am so sorry i hope you’re doing so much better now. hugs
I'm really sorry and I know how you feel as my ex also SAed me. I'm 33 and have been hurt by every single man in my life.
As someone who was SA in the mountains by a man i choose the bear all day every day. Even in another universe in which i wasn't SA by a man I'd still choose the bear. Why? Because the worst thing that can happen when attacked by a bear (they only attack if provoked) is death, then your corpse is eaten by said bear (prolly its family too) and is now part of the eco system. So you're supporting the eco system by sacrificing.
I'm still surprised i wasn't k^lled that day. I live in eastern europe and not being unalived by a man in the mountains is a blessing. A miracle even. 💀
Actually a black will try to eat you if you look dead so sleeping might qualify and a polar bear would eat almost anything it encounters live or dead, a brown will leave you alone mostly if it thinks you're dead
You could be as careful as possible (park in a lit area, never be alone, cover your drink, etc) and STILL get attacked by a man 😔 A bear only kills to eat or for protection, you cannot say the same thing about a man.
Back in the 1960s, a neighbor man told my mother he was training his son to use women and to "get it" whenever he could. Mom was the best. She said she thought that was awesome....then asked if he was ok with the man up the street training HIS son to do the same thing to our neighbors daughter. Neighbor man lost his shxx. They never flip the script at how their own behavior impacts their own wives, daughters, sisters, mothers.
It's always fun when they say "not all men" but based on how language works that means that you agree it's most men, or you wouldn't have to specify it's not all of them
Yes my dad taught me the entitlement of men from an early age. As I grew up I saw and experienced it for myself. ALL men even when they marry and “settle down”
No, im not hiring a male nanny or caretaker. I can’t even trust these male teachers and coaches half the time. They did this.
You should not trust them even relatives.
I found out about Pony the orangutan and the 4 men who ganged a lizard and ate it
And a guy on reddit admiting he used a squid
Etc etc etc
A bear wouldnt do that or eaven think about doing that
There was a guy that was caught graping a goat at Laurel RC a while back.
LOLOLOL. Like what kind of conversation piece is that like with other men? Can you imagine your girlfriend calling you on the phone on Monday and be like: Guuuuurl, I had a really wonderful hot weekend with donkey from Shrek...LOLOLOLOLOL.
Men aren't idiots. When he does something unfair/ manipulative to you & act like- *"What happened? Why are you overreacting? What have I done?"* -HE EXACTLY KNOWS WHAT THE F**K HE HAS DONE TO YOU 😬
so just runnnnn queen 👑 🧿✨💗
Bears are held accountable when they attack a woman, but society will come up with a million reasons why a man isn't to blame.
I do moutain tourism in Russia, so i've been in a forest with a bear multiple times. 9 of a 10 times they don't want to meet you either so you can just make some noise and it won't come closer to a hiking trail. The worst thing a bear has done to me is stealing a food from my backpack at night, lol. So A BEAR. 1000 times A BEAR.
My ex ex bf took me to a chicken strips club with his friends once, his friend stole my mj , touched me inappropriately and I was pickpocketed. When I told my bf he said it was my fault for being there in the first place. After we’d broken up and I was dating women openly, he tried to out me to my family before I could tell them (we’d already talked and they were already aware and supportive).
He was an actual trash person. I could go on. One of the worst human beings I’ve ever had the displeasure of sharing time with.
And he acted surprised when I ended things, bc he had no idea he was being a pos. He thought he was fine lol
But there are such good men out there that I know personally and I’m sure exist elsewhere who don’t deserve to be associated with his kind
'chicken strips club's
🧐
Another one for the 'community guidelines lingo'
When a man drops the soap in prison, "well you should've have more careful" 🤷🏾♀️
A bear would only eat me out of necessity, it would feast off my body then leave me be. A man? Me and my body are not safe with him no matter if I’m alive or dead.
I live at the end of town in a small southern British Columbia town. We have a large bear that comes through the backyard, it even came up on my porch and grabbed a bucket of pears I had picked and ran away with it in its mouth. It was terrified when I approached it - it must have been 300 pounds. They also poop all over the yard during the night, this is common where I live. I was not scared, but the bear took off so fast to get away from me.
However if there was a man in the back yard I would definitely grab a weapon and a phone right away…
Bears don't pretend to be good bears and then attack when you are most vulnerable and least expect it in your own home.
Also, bears don't travel in packs with fully premeditated strategies to harm *specifically* women for their amusement.
We're likely to get harmed or not either way, but when it comes right down to it, with the bear we have a choice of what harm will come to us.
Likely the bear will be hunted and put down, while IF they even get around to processing the kit and catching the man, he might get out on parole for good behavior in a few years. Of course his behavior was "good" in prison, there are no women there.
What's even crazier about that initial video is that Europeans are TERRIFYED of bears! America and Asia are the only countries that have them in the wild, so the thought of an animal that dangerous unnerves them. When I visited London, everyone was asking me about bears and whether or not I have seen one (answer: no. but I would want to). The fact that they would rather be in the woods with an animal so scary than with a man truly speaks volumes.
Some parts of Europe do have bears in the wild and by bear I mean Ursus arctos arctos aka European brown bear.
Its super cool seeing them in Colorado. Very beautiful
We have wild bears in Poland. I saw one in the mountains. He was very unbothered by our presence.
I am learning a lot in these comments. I did not know that Finland and Poland had bears. Cool!
@@Lady_Jennie bears are our national animal here in Finland. They used to be considered so sacred you couldn't speak the word bear, so our language has a dozen words that also mean bear.
I’ve been called a bigot, misandrist, man-hater etc for unapologetically choosing the bear and listing the multitude of reasons as to why I will always make that choice. Honestly, I feel like women actually have a lot of good reasons to genuinely hate men and want nothing to do with them, but we still at large don’t. I’ve seen actual man haters and they’re still not as bad as woman haters. The things men do to women, not even just out of hate, but out of anger, jealousy, embarrassment, resentment etc is truly stomach turning.
When i was 15 at my first job i had an old man tell me "you have beautiful red hair... Just letting you know, if i was 20 years younger you wouldn't be able to stop me"
My boss said "he was raised in a different time... Compliments were more aggressive"
Worst is other women mocking those that choose the bear.
I saw a few of them speaking about "this crazy feminists/woke people that choose the bear".
Sympathy has flown out of the window.
Yep. Those are the pick-mes. They're using a self defense mechanism and they don't even realize it. They appeal to men (who usually hold more power than women) so that they might be "safe" from those very same men, even though they still have a high chance of not being safe.
Lol as someone who’s done environmental work, when they say “no one’s handed me a pamphlet on bear attack prevention” I feel that our national park service is failing those women lol
My type of humor, haha
I would like one of those pamphlets 🤓 (I don't live where bears are out in the wild)
I would choose the bear rather than get punched in the face on the nyc subway.
My father defends other men, i was so disappointed to know he cared about my ex more than me on some occasions, and not even in a fair way, but in a trauma reaction kinda way...
asking these kind of men who they would leave their hypothetical daughter with is quite sad cause thats probably the only time they cared about a woman's safety
At worst, the bear found no enjoyment in killing me. There is a gentleness to animal violence as there is no malice in the actions, just survival. At best, I saw a really cool bear in the woods.
I don't want to talk about the worst case with a man in the woods.
I saw a video of a woman motorcyclist who was being perused on the highway by an angry man because he thought she tapped his mirror. She records her rides so there is evidence that she came NO WHERE NEAR this man. He got out of his car when they were at a stand still and charged her, he was weaving in and out of traffic to get to her, etc. She finally got police to intervene cause she felt so afraid and she finally got to tell the man “I just want to go home to my babies”. He responded with “I don’t give a f*ck”.
As a wise commenter said on her video; the bear wouldn’t have chased her that far. I’d choose the bear every time.
I keep seeing an exhibitionist who masurebates in his car when I am on my way to school, the last time was yesterday. He is always parked near the back entrance of my campus so it's like not the most exposed but there are still a steady flow of student who pass his car.
And I feel so helpless and disgusted whenever I see him, evertime I think I am going to be brave and take a picture of him and have him arrested. But everytime he looks at me dead in the eyes and I think what if he gets out of the car when nonome is around, what if I report him but they don't arrest him, what if they do nothing to stop him and he knows who I am afterwards. And so I just pass his car and act as though I didn't see him, I am disgusted I feel like I am giving him what he wants.
And somehow when it happens tonme and I am shaken and I talk about it people always shift the responsibility to me. I should have taken another route (it would add twenty minutes to the walk ), or I should have taken someone with me (all my friends have different schedules and it's not like he is here everyday, it's not realistic to have someone with me every time I go there)
Please report him. He will escalate.
I’m sure there are more girls that have noticed him. Please report this *man, he will never know. Make him accountable, cause you haven’t done anything wrong
You don't need to take a picture just call the cops.
@@silververnallbells191 I did, but by the time they arrive he is always already gone. I should at least try to provide a license plate number
@@melchiorlise2466there are probably other witnesses on your campus !! you should see if anyone else in your class has seen him ... your case will be stronger that way
I have a group of anti-feminist guys as friends and they were SO needlessly offendeed by this. Like they get so mad and make jokes like "Yeah say that again when the bear eats them!" "Yeah the bear would love chasing them in the forest" etc. Meanwhile i was there telling them over and over again "you're missing the point, you're falling for the clickbait and not the intelligent discussion the video is trying to stir up". Cus maybe this is all clickbait and it's all a huge prank but that doesn't change the fact that in italy one out of 3 women dies every single goddamn day. The feminice got so bad we made goddamn new legislations and laws about the damn thing, our government has no idea how to handle the situation and women are screaming and venting and doing whatever they can to explain to the male population how BAD the situation has become. It's like living in a nightmare where you scream your lungs out but no voice comes out. It's beyond concerning.
I am African-American. I NEVER let my kids do sleepovers . All of their friends came to my house , some stayed for days , it was fun for all . I was abused by an uncle . So , there was no way that i wouldn't protect those kids . My husband was here , but # ANYONE could get got for TRYING to hurt a kid . 🥺😡 # keep kids safe 😊❤# no , you are not paranoid 😊
my mom never allowed me to sleepover unless it was my cousin's house who had a single mom and non brother. I was so mad at her when I was younger then I grew up and realised she was just protecting me
My dad would warn me about men all the time. That told me what I needed to know as a girl and a woman. He was not a good husband and I think sometimes the warning was because he knew deep down how he was, and saw it in other men. It scared him to imagine his daughters with a man like him.
How is it that in my backyard one "tomboy" plays football with boys weighing more than 20 kg and they neither rape nor beat her and consider her as "one of us"? Can you explain this phenomenon to me? I know at least 4 "tomboys", including one in my family - she served vodka in bars, hung out with crowds of drunk men and nothing ever happened to her, she married one of them. She always considered women to be mean and hypocritical, so she always preferred men's company. Maybe "if you don't like someone, they don't like you"? What do you think?
@@pawemarciniak4929wow you know a pick me. Congrats
Just asked my father this question and he immediately said bear. He also asked why would a random man be in the woods anyway. #lovemydad
Men aren't allowed to hike or camp anymore? Damn
bears are mostly vegetarian and a good animal that wont attack people
By god I had to go fact check this since I had not heard of it before- you're right! A bear's diet consists of almost 90% plant based foods! Thank you for this insight, and yes, bears do tend to keep to themselves and are some wonderful creatures
I love bears so much!
Im an ecologist, and thats not true at all. Bear hunt a lot. They eat grown bull moose while the moose is still alive. Bear are also extremely fast. Have you ever seen a bear hunt? Its terrifying. And yes, bear will absolutely attack people and its not out of fear. A 12ft tall brown bear is not scared of you. Just get a carry permit and learn how to fight.
Nature is neutral, nature doesn't care. Only human hurts others for the sake of it
I've met a man who survived a bear mauling. Bear maulings happen all the time in Alaska. A friend of mine lost a family member to a black bear. Bears eat moose and salmon and berries and humans...