There's a Reason Pros Don't Clear Everything | (Platinum Brimstone Fracture Coaching)
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I keep on wanting to send in a vod for vod review, but every time I look at my own vods and watch your videos I see countless mistakes that I can keep improving on. These are a huge help and I just hit plat last night. thanks mr bannana!
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While you are absolutely seeing your own mistakes, my specialty is in pointing out YOUR BIGGEST WEAKNESS.
Everyone is different! While you're all making the same types of mistakes, it's almost certain that one of them is your Achilles heel.
@@Woohoojin Please tell me I'm bad at the game. :>
@@nikolaialvarez5329 no
What do you use to record vods?
bro u in valorant curios LMAO
Woohoojin: Stop checking corners
Me and my judge: 😈
yess he is secretly a closet judge lover. All according to keikaku
yow bro exactly what I was thinking. Hopefully this thinking pops off and nobody checks my rat spots ever again
Update: reached Ascendant on my main using this strat atleast once a game. If they still don't act cautious, I punish them again and hide in some weird corner until they are paranoid af. Effective because once you get in their head, they check everything which slows them down. If they still gamble, they get pumped full of buckshot.
@Holy Capybara jesus should've teched
every players under gold OR radiant(because a lot of them troll a lot apparently):
What you said between 10:03-13:24 really helped me as an asc3 player.Instantly subbed
variable interval
i am always over clearing when I'm flanking cause i'm scared. You are so correct.
Selective clearing is a big part of valorant that a lot of people don’t understand in lower elo. People often get given the advice “clear ur angles” and so the end up clearing everything since they dont know which angles r worth clearing. Learning the timings and probabilities of where people can be is huge and will make u a more efficient player. Clearing that rat angle on site as ur teammate is planting is a smart clear, clearing the rat angle on B when 4 have shown presence on A is just inefficient
Yes never clear angles that just aren't possible for a player to be in, but it's always worth clearing corners that are unlikely especially after you've cleared the likely angles. Too many rounds have been lost because someone doesn't clear an uncommon angle after 4 teammates have passed
@@InMyAbyss I mean it's all about what type of angle it is, when going on to site pretty much every angle should be cleared, but its those angles that r just random ass spots in the middle of no where that will only have someone hiding in it 1% of the time that u dont need to clear, which is about half of the angles in the game if u rly think abt it
@@dry137. oh yeah if you spot all 5 on the map far from where you're at, it's then useless to clear the angles in your area. but if only 4 get spotted, the likelihood of a lurker playing a rat angle trying to catch you is not worth the risk of not taking the time to clear every angle (properly)
@@dry137. agreed it all comes down to game sense and your awareness. Maximize both then you will save a lot of team as clearing angles can even waste up half the time the bomb requires to explode.
I like to clear every angle just because of my paranoia 😂
This one really resonated with me. This guy plays a lot like me. One thing I know holds me back is I am an over thinker and I am always thinking about the 10 different spots they could be and then end up reacting slow when the guy just runs and guns around the corner in front of me.
Unironically changed the way I look at the game, I thought that the best player would play the most comprehensively and leave no stone unturned so they don't die to anything "stupid". But maybe the thing that makes stupid stuff stupid is how low percentage they are, so I can just play faster on higher percentage plays and over enough games my win% would go up. New sub gained.
12:05 to be fair in bronce there's someone holding that corner 60% of the time. It's a fiesta down here!
Silver player here. The amount of reynas and phoenix who hide in a corner waiting for flanks while their whole team is dying pushing a site would surprise you. Hell, if you flank one round and it works, you'll have someone call "lets all wait in spawn for flanks until timer reaches 30secs".
Honestly I would never knife out yolo flank unless I see 5 people pushing on minimap, if I dont have info on one player Id be shift walking clearing everything.
I think this is solid advice by you but I would recommend against in low elo lobbies, unless you wanna get tilted.
im immo player and i agree with u. If u can expect enemy in every posotion\corner u cant be defeated, because u expect everything.
As a high ascendant trying to make that jump to immortal level play I appreciate stuff like this. Made me realize I need to play the risks and speed up my decisions on instead of worrying about the what ifs.
The way you articulate your points is underrated, thank you RUclips recommended!
This help me so much instantly i'am maining neon and was always over clearing angle, i have now become a menace in diamond
Wow I have stumbled upon the GEM of learning how to play Valorant. Love your content!
lmao i realize i do this a lot in asc1 and also a lot of times me and my teammates end up double clearing stuff...Only thing that happens more is that either of the two will realize and go back to focusing on the important angle while the trade player checks these angles of lesser importance
yeah this video has actually been one of those EXTREMELY helpful videos for me. I've watched... hundreds? of coaching videos, most of which never really cover this sort of stuff. I'm so happy to have found this channel.
Recently discovered your channel and I really love it so I will ask for a bit of advice as well.
I have just started playing, valorant is my first fps so I definitely know nothing: as an absolute beginner is there any "bad habit" that I should definitely avoid from the start? Or somehow some good fundamentals to get at least the basics right from the start?
Thanks if you'll ever reply to this and thanks for the high quality content :3
Gunfight hygiene. Go watch my "Get Gold in a Month" video, and really really really lay down a solid foundation of good movement/mechanics before you start to think too much about strategy.
@@Woohoojin Ok, thanks for the advice! I will definitely stick to that and I will definitely comment again if I actually feel decent at gunfights and hit gold in a month!
@@tavolinov.8857 did you make it friend?
@@calebmangrum8657 Actually I did the "aim training" every day and practiced gun fight hygiene BUT I couldn't play ranked most of the time because of reaally high ping, but! I won almost all the few ranked games I did and always had lots of performance bonus, gaining about 30RR per match. I think that if I could have reached 60 games I'd be gold I think but I only did 25 after my placements so I didn't make it! Plus, since my connection is bad I couldn't instalock Reyna even once, so I just stuck to playing controllers but it worked well I think. I'm looking forward to do more ranked this episode because I feel that I can make it pretty easily with all the banana advice.
hi coach Woohoojin! love all your content - enjoying the new perspectives given to strats, gameplay etc
just would like to make sure i'm understanding your pro tip here - so you're saying on defense - if no initial contact has been made the play would be to just knives out and fast flank the enemy? simply because at higher elos players don't camp waiting for pushes as often (unless they catch on to a repeat strat of constant pushing out)?
I try to avoid generalizing, I’m saying in this game in these scenarios I’d personally be knife out because the statistical likelihood that they’d punish me for that is very low.
One of your best videos! Thanks banana man
The intro clip play is a hilarious jest I love to pull out in the middle of a brim pilot on this map. It works out great against rushing
in lower elos, people love to hide in corners to catch flankers off guard
it only happend only couple of times people camp in 1 and done angle
but it really burn in your memory how annoying that moment is and u end up always checking every angle
I only do this if i got site and they do it 1 time and 90% of the time i flank they have to check me so i dont think so.
Plat going diamond
hey woohoojin, if i send you a match, how likely will it be that u vod review it?
I got a fracture question. So every other map I got a good idea of why that controller is played, but fracture I'm not sure why brim is the best controller for the map. I understand that he pairs best with neon+breach for the fast executes, but is he still as good if your solo q teammates don't pick breach/neon?
I'm guessing it's because his ult works similarly to bind where it's great for clearing out tower like it does lamps, and the smaller sites let you clear a lot of angles with ult. I would've said the 3 smokes are great for dish, CT, and ropes before the ropes changes... but can't you get a lot of value from omen paranoia in A main and B main?
I've seen all 5 controllers on this map so I'm just a little curious what makes brim the best for ranked. Thanks for all your videos they've been very helpful!
I find both Viper+Omen to also be super playable on this map.
I believe Brimstone become a bit more meta in soloQ lately as teams started drafting more Neon.
How should you adjust this for an anti eco round? Is losing time more worth it then?
Dude I’m immo 3 and learning from this. I make these mistakes a lot as a Reyna player lol
Thanks to you Banana man I went from Bronze to Plat 3 :) I’m on my way to diamond and beyond. Thank you.
Did u guys record your game with obs?
im debating on sending in a vod cause lately i've been gettibg a lot of kills in my games but lossing a lot and i know there's stuff i can do to help my teamates more but i just dont know specifically what it is. i de ranked to asc 3 from imm 2 this act
Hey Woohoojin, Im not sure I got the context correct on the point you ended on at 9:59 however if its what I think it is with you arguing have your knife out in this situation, I have to firmly disagree. The situation is 4v3 and they're on a flank, players on the 3 person team will likely be aggressive and look for frags in these situations to even up the playing field. This point is further emphasized on the sheer amount of time left in the round, this is not a time you take risks as the team with 4 players, you do however want to tactically take space, have the 3 players commit to a bomb plant and then retake or prevent the bomb from being planted based on the space you've taken. I would agree highly unlikely someone is holding that space, but id say based on how poorly that fight went on A main for them that players going to DROP could more likely cancel that Site take and start pathing towards them to rotate and try to take Arcade to B.. If a player is caught with his knife out and that person has any layer of decent aim skill its now a 3v3 and roles have reversed in which team %wise will win this round... Like I said I may not have the context correct because you mention Speed-running which I don't know what exactly that is lol. Great to converse with a fellow coach and open to hearing your opinion further on this!
Nah knife out all the time during that situation, the round had literally just begun you only get your gun out when you enter dish and if the team were to play for picks after being down numbers it would take some time for them to even be down numbers and you’d already be in dish at the moment.
I wasn't listening thinking this didn't apply to my elo until you said you adjust for THAT game if someone rats a lot. trueeee dude true.
Woohoojin, I like how you talk about speedrunning, but so many people in my rank (silver) will just stay in corners, like not even kidding, there will be one going to site and 4 will stay back getting free kills.
This is exactly what I felt that was my weakness, I clear literally every angle I can and I think I developed this habit from playing dm with no audio. I’ve noticed how slow it takes for me to even get where I want because I’m paranoid with the most unlikely holds. Let’s see what happens this new act trying to remove this habit
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I think it applies to like gold cuz down here in iron to silver, there is just some person really camping the most unreasonably random corner. I just gotta check every corner bruh
Such an underrated tip
This guy just solved one of my dilemmas
Ty for content banana
This guy should listen to Knives Out by Radiohead
man loves his crash bandicoot remixes
I admitted that you are correct about dont clear everything, cause this game is also about timing. But yesterday i played with my friends in diamond 3 - ascendant 2, he yelled at me about me not checked every corner cause im playing with my sense and my feeling also. This game is so gamble, you cant blame your team when they do wrong move, especially in high elo
That's why you're going to win 13-7 and not 13-0 even if ur better
can you make a video going over pros for this i don't WHY???
That list is basically an exhaustive list of things I tried to understand in Valorant while climbing from Gold -> Radiant. It's huge, and full of garbage that is completely irrelevant. It's also full of notes that I only took for me myself and I, bad habits that I specifically had that are not globally applicable to all lower rated players.
I would be very hesitant to show it unaltered in any form at risk of excited viewers interpreting it in a detrimental way.
At the end of the day pretty much any video I release is a result of what I learned from trying to answer the questions I wrote down on that list. "Why do pros get so many kills from smokes (minimap refrag)", "Why do pros ignore all these angles (efficiency)", etc.
I hard clear everything
I feel like doing so because of a rat i played with that one time but this shows why i always get
"LAST PLAYER STANDING" everytime and lose my rounds/games
sadly this doesn't work in silver because everyone is just sitting in a corner with a judge or odiin
im silver and i kinda agree, nice tips!
id love to submit a vod review but recording my gameplay makes me lag too much to play the game :/
Prop your phone up on some books, point it at your monitor.
I won't reject it from the raffles, I'll try my best to review it king.
what gpu do you use?
how is brimstone not on bind what alternate universe have i entered
Thank you Mr Potassium
Does this work in silver
I understand but its just better to clear everything. I see it all the time in pro play CSGO, Valorant, R6, etc. They dont clear it especially in crucial rounds where the enemy just trigger discpiline and they lose the round because of it. Its just good awareness to check the corners that your teammate didnt check. SO MANY pro teams lost because of it so its just better for everyone to clear their angles and every corner.
yeah honestly i dont know why they dont at least glance at the corners they walk past
what a fun cute outro
The brim is so me, it like a me irl of valorant
Would you be open to make a Video based on that list? And the Why?s you answered?
Exactly why you need to practice flanking with a neon 😂
Im in silver lobbies im 100% sure most these places you say are off chance are not off chance they will sit there and wait ive been bamboozled many times its a struggle out here in low elos everyone got nothing to risk
is this crash bandicoot loading music :D
Woohoojin im too insecure, i can't stop checking corners unless it's 2 - 3 player left.
oh wow, this was helpful
That sonic adventure song. Anyone who knows that song is a good person 😌😌
I feel personally attacked by this vid 😃
Higher elo players underestimate how ratty lower elo lobbies are
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10n2jJocYWrr9bMD5nAjqig0D8V-JKy4EOpGTmhGR6S8/edit?usp=sharing
I started in Bronze. This is my first FPS game.
I don't underestimate anything - this is a bad habit that low ELO players develop frequently that needs fixing. It's not optimal to play this way, even in lower ELO.
@@Woohoojin I agree. The amount of times I've been ratted on in Bronze wasn't nearly as high to warrant the overall wasted time clearing every single angle.
Now in Ascendant, I'm starting to notice more and more how important TIME is. Had I understood that back in Bronze, I may have been able to win 20, maybe even 30% more games, taking me away from Bronze much faster than how long it actually took me (70 wins over 2 acts).
Thanks for making this video, it was extremely helpful.
omg eye opener
do u have more points on your list, pros do this, I do not?
Im the rat holding a small box, making bronze players lose their sanity.
@9:54 skye gets a dog kill on chamber 😂
9:34 woohoojin i stg im imm and the other team be doing this shit on a regular basis, oce is the freakiest ranked server
"Sometimes you just need to take risk"
Proceed to rush with op like it a judge
Radiant lobbies : flank fast so they don’t expect you there
silver lobbies : holding flank on pistol round since the beginning of the round
anyone else think the music sounds like it's from crash bandicoot?
Lol I’m surprised a plat player is making this mistake, cuz my brother is plat and he actually taught me exactly what you taught in this video, his also greedy with speed in flanking, the only difference is he simply tells me “cuz Ik they aren’t gonna be there” instead of fully explaining why he so confidently knife out and not clear all angles
Nothing to be surprised about. Plat is only the start to getting good. Even Ascendants are struggling with this concept too.
This banana looks a little sick XD
I would be looking at a corner with my knife out while running 🤣. wouldn't care at all
There is a 1% chance they are actually there, so it's basically saying would u rather take the site 10 seconds faster or have a 1% chance of potentially dying. Also another thing to add on is if everyone always checks it then nobody would ever play there, if nobody plays there u don't have to check it anymore
I swear in my gold games theres always someone there
new game new me
Well, bronze and silver hide all alone in absolute random corners, so if you are in that elo, remember where they were hiding....
Need me a kayo like this, I want to kiss this dude on the lips
😳
should've let cypher clear for him
I'm Diamond and I don't know these...
The reason why low elo players check corners constantly is because the enemy is always ratting in the most random corners ever. Taking your advice to not clear some corners gets me killed probably about 5 times a game with how ratty players are in low elo.
Someone dies from a rat angle coaches u should have cleared that
Ofc you hear when they ult without voiceline lol pseudo couch
I disagree. You should not take this risk to get "perfect timing" on flank, and not all agent have the skillset to do this task.
That is why pros don't solo flanking and lurking on certain agent.
For example, no matter how fast you run with your knife out + taking the risk of not clearing corner to go even faster (which is very bad) as Brimstone,
Neon/Raze/Jett/Yoru can do this as fast (if not faster), while clearing every corner, I guarantee you 1000%.
This is what you call efficiency.
As a smoker, your priority should be helping the team by:
- Staying alive (you cannot throw smokes if u dead)
- Throw a flippin good smokes (you are a smoker, get it right sir)
- Trade kills (coz you are a good teammate and player).
Smoke is what defines Smoker role, not your flanks and lurks.
bronze EU 💀
I like most of the content but this is really terrible advice
"stop checking your corners to save 1 second with knife out because most teams in soloq dont bother to hold their flank"
Just awful.
If you don't know where the enemies are, at the very least have your gun out and stay alert
11:41 the problem with your logic is that you're basing everything on the radiant elo. This isn't radiant. True, they could've done a better job at clearing but this isn't radiant. Your reasonings are good but sometimes they don't make sense. As far as I can tell based on the videos I've watched, you're just basing everything on "radiant". Base your review on the rank of the player you're reviewing, not based on what a theoretical radiant lobby would do.