I agree with all of this, and this is a very valid hangar for late-game. Keep in mind that this is the worst-case scenario, assuming you get *no* premium weapons or implants to use. The only thing I want to point out is that Asami (or any other Legendary Pilot added to the shop) is better to use instead of an Epic. Even non-specialized, Legendary pilots do better than Epic.
Fair point on asami. Tbh when I started working on this video asami wasn’t available. That’s how long this one took me overtime inbetween other things this summer lol.
@@scape211 the speed they are bring something out, it’s hard to keep up with it all! You give us all a great insight and path to follow so as no to take the wrong hanger paths. I learnt the hard way, I used my credit a long time ago and got Redox. I then saw you review and was like…. “Darn I wish I saw that before!” You were spot on!
You're missing out on 8% damage if you use an unspecialized legendary pilot over epic but there's definitely a case to make for the extra health and extra implant slot
Amazing video scape. You came back with a banger and I totally agree with what you said, all points where covered. I'm sure this video will help out many people
Soooo glad you did the video. I am 100% free to play and have been saving for a Surge but was having second thoughts as it’s such a huge investment. Having watched the great video, Surge will fill a gap in my hanger!
He does take a while to save for, but with his changes he totally worth it imo. In the meantime, you can use zephyr who is far cheaper and only credits. Hes still worthy of end game as well so no harm in investing. And like I said in the video, if you get lucky and get zephyr legendary ability range boost, he's much better in real 5v5 combat and can stay in the hangar over surge for most.
@@scape211 thanks Scape211! I did get lucky and got the legendary zephyrs range free. Zephyr with that mod is one of my strongest mechs. Funny thing is I still haven’t managed to get a single mortar radius mod lol so my mortar 12 are pretty bad.
@@garryt6356 oh nice on the zephyr one! that's one I still don't have but am jealous of those who do. It can literally dominate smaller tdm maps and all 2v2 maps. 45m is huge for those cases. Most players don't prepare for a 45m freeze too so it catches many off guard and has that going for it over surge too. In your case, you are probably fine sticking with zephyr for a bit and only getting surge if you need the speed. Hes expensive for sure.
@@scape211 to be honest I want the surge to help me combat mortar users. Without a radius mod, my mortars aren’t very effective. Plus I think the speed will help against the EM weapons. Due to the delay firing, I need to zip zip around! Lol. I hope you win the Zephyr legendary mod soon mate. You are right it is a game changer!
@@garryt6356 yup - surge can be nice for dealing with backline guys since it has some stealth. Such a great mech now! As for EM rifles, they have targeting assist and I have been dusted mid-dash in a killshot so it wont always save you. But speed definitely helps for a lot of aspects besides that so its very useful.
I agree with all builds but the Guardian. Like you had mentioned the Guardian has the health to survive counter Mortar fire, but the damage could be avoided entirely by using a Panther, Killshot or Stalker instead. I know Stalker isn't available for F2P players but hopefully by the time most of us reach end game like myself, Stalker will be available. Paired with it's speed like a Panther and health like a Brickhouse and a damage boosting self healing ability it will be the perfect mech for Mortar use.
I understand and agree Stalker would be better. I actually use him with mortars quite a bit. I also said that killshot is another option for mortars when I was talking about killshot so I agree with you there too. I mainly talk about guardian here in the hopes that you can use your upgraded guardian later when you get other 16 energy weapons. I hope that as you grow other 16 energy weapons will be available to because they should be.
Discs on Panther. Carbs on Ares. Mortars on Killshot. Rails on Guardian. Just a slight variation of what you’ve got, is basically the previous meta. That is: before Graviton, Orion, and Em Rifle. So that’s still nothing to sneeze at.
11:43 I'm constantly being paired against 6k sp guys in my tourny matches while my max sp goes to 3.4k right now. I was holding my ground with my arc/stalker, rm/panther and dl/guardian but now after this update whole aiming system is messed up and my two main setups Arcs and RMs feels useless cause of stupid aim which just hard lock on the farthest possible target instead of the one which is right in front of me. First i thought it's only me, then i saw many others complaining about it too on discord and fb page. No words from devs yet.
You can change your aim to.. vertical I believe and it won’t lock on as much. Better with discs as well cause you actually can aim them, much easier to kill
I think that covering particular hangars is better than mech specific loadouts especially with all the pilot stuff and all, this reduces a lot of hassle. The dual railgun panther and dual disc launcher ares is the most common end game f2p loadouts that I have seen in so many in hangars even the implants are right for those two. Generally I see more players use dual rm on ks once they get it to 24 energy and more than the dual carbine 12 major setup nowadays I see dual mr12 nova setup with epic dmg and reload implants and ks dash distance. the carbine 12 setup isn't much preferred by many becoz it isn't really good for 1v1 against someone but still I do see it in some hangars. I think people started investing in surge only recently but something pretty equal to that is zephyr. Many f2p use zephyr dual arc 10 and glock setup if they don't have surge. the guardian rm build is actually used by many f2p in tdm. mostly becoz guardian is the last mech to max for many and it has high hp so it makes it good for surviving throughout a match as well. before a few months people used to use guardian for stasis beams but that wasn't so effective so it is changed now. if stalker was there in the progress path it would be good to use rms on.
Totally agree. Ks carb12 is the weakest setup here but given how common the other builds are, it made the most sense for it based on the limitations. I agree that for most, RM12s or mr12 are better once you have a couple other items in your hangar.
not really sure about this but disc launcher is very important weapon especially if you are in mid cause speaking from experience I died a lot cause the disc launcher is to powerfull back in those days and after I get myself a disc launcher the course of the my battle started to change rapidly. Now I win alot more than before.
Totally agree. That’s why I think it’s important to think smart about it’s use and why I don’t run it on killshot as most tend to use him aggressively (which he’s kinda designed for)
Thanks for the video Scape! You will really help me when my Noob to Pro series when I reach endgame. Thanks!! (BTW can you do a video like this for mid game? My hanger is in mid-game)
yea I;'ve had a few people ask for that. What would you consider mid-game though? Like 2-3k ish SP? Still not sure where that fall tbh. Mid-game has changed as the power scale has shifted.
For the time when this vid was published. Solid. However I’d switch weapons on guardian and panther. Reason? Guardian is meant to be close up since his ability. And railguns are that. Panther is great for practically any weapon. But stasis beam 16 is decent and good too.
Killshot is a common choice. I mainly have the carbines in here due to the progress path limitations. But missile racks can easily replace it. Missile racks can also go good on max zephyr or surge. Plenty of great options for missile rack 12. Just depends on what works best for you and your hangar.
I'm not sure how to answer that lol. Do you mean in terms of subscribers vs others that are bigger? They put out content more frequently than I do and fill other niches that maybe get them more views? I dunno man.
If you don't mind can you please make a video on hangar review this weekend 🙏 so that we all can come to know that what all materials we need to build up our end game hangar
Yeah,mine was panther with LA 10+12 and maverick(lucky from event),Ares with DLs8 and Rosa,killshot with JR 8 and rare pilot of guide,paragon with RM 12s and spark(it's maxed out btw),and Zephyr with AT6+10 and G-lock
I agree generally (though not sure about carbines on KS) but I just have missile racks on KS, Surge and Panther, Railgun on Brickhouse and Arc torrent on Ares. Prolly I will switch the weps around when I reach end game - I’m at 5k now. Racks are fun and I don’t use guided or non aimed weapons like discs or mortars I think they are lame AF
Nice list but I'd make a few changes: Zypher with MR 8 KS with Jav 8s (are they f2p) or DL 12s Ares with AT 10s Same for last two panther and G I realise you're not maxing some stuff but this would be more effective?
Jav 8s are not f2p as they can only be bought from the shop with real money nowadays… They could have considered f2p only during their first released as the devs gave out so many event tokens though a derby event that you were 100% guarantee to get it…
I can see Ares with arc10 being decent and I mentioned that as a possible alternate during his section. mr8s are a bit too weak for most at end game as their caliber is too low. Same kinda issue for jav8s and even more so as you heavily heavily rely on double damage and its only 30% chance max. These are great weapons, but not realistic for end game for most in real competitive play. They can work for support or group killing, but generally limited to certain conditions.
Yea I think it could be. I have not tested it, but on paper the overall damage is similar, but the burst dps and lesser exposure time of the shotgun appears better. And since killshot will likely be dashing into enemies it makes sense for finishing them off. You do lose long range flexibility that carbs can bring so you will have to adjust your playstyle and likely specialize what targets you focus on. The main reason I didnt add shotgun8s in was because its not technically a f2p weapon since you cant attain it apart from special events or spending. But its one of (of not the) best 8 energy weapon.
@@scape211 thanks for answering i plan to unlock 2nd copi and to use it on kilshot. Im f2p so not yet wining all weapons. I Will try to sawe for railgun in future
My f2p hanger would have been : Jugg arc 10, ares arc 12, killshot mortars, panther disc 12 and guardian LA 10 But because i got some goodies my hanger is gonna be: tengu shotgun 8, stalker arc 12, ares arc 10 or disc 12, panther disc 16 and guardian disc12 or killshot mortars
Nice upgrades! I would do the DL12 on areas since you already have a close-range arc mech and killshot with mortars. Its a better loadout than the guardian with mortars. I only use that here based on the limitations of f2p. You could also put the RM12s on stalker and put arcs on ks if you need more speed for early game or getting behind enemies. Great stuff to work with though.
I think both are quite viable and I plan on using both once I get the 16. If you can only choose one, it depends on the hangar. If you have stalker or orion to use with the 12s, it can be equally viable as a 16 loadout in a lot of cases.
Very helpful, Sir. How about Stalker with DL12 +Rosa, Killshot with MR12+ Nova and Guardian with Carbine 12 + Major, I want my Guardian for brawling tanks and other attackers. Is it good?? RM Guardian seems too camper to me, I don't like sitting in back and pressing buttons
Yea thats great too. I couldnt use Stalker or mr12s for this video based on the limitations, but both are better than what I had here. Personally I would use other stuff on Guardian unless you don't have other options. Tbh, the carb12s are the weakest weapon for end game in the current meta. They arent terrible, but they arent particularly good either.
tourney is really the best way. you can get about 400 to 500 casually each week, but tdm helps you get a lot more each week. You can also get extra in certain events, the progress path, and achievements. But its not a ton and not that reliable. tdm is the best to grind for.
Danggg, I just got blueprints, but honestly, that's fine, I got grav 16 last time! But I never get the top weapon/pilot... It's almost hilarious at this point how unlucky I am... *Life of a f2p player*
Am a 100% f2p and still managed to get arc 12 through crate rush. I always make sure to have 6k acoins i won't touch to be ready for disc 12 or stalker acoin crate rush. Not going to invest on carbines and not going to upgrade guardian. Surge shadow stalker panther arres and killshot are the mech on which i will work and as weapon mortar arc 10s and 12 shootguns disc 12 and 16 that's all i need. I think in one year from now i'll have them all
I guess I am in mid game now my hanger is and stays around 2900, I am disappointed I did not see the cheetah make the cut. I am a huge ambush player, he is my top killer at the moment, I think I do well when teamed up with 4k hangers I can make the top 3. Tell me there is hope for cheetah I don't want to spend the a coins on 6 stars if I don't have to.
If you are good with cheetah, you can keep using him. However, I have to be honest in saying I haven't seen one beyond like the 3kish range in hangars. Hes fun and capable, but limited based on his energy set and ability. I think he relies too much on ideal situations to work strongly in his favor while other mechs can find more generaliZed areas to stay effective everywhere. I would love to see someone who is end game rocking a strong cheetah though!
Yeah, agreeable I really want cheetah to be part of my hanger but killshot is my faster mech in my hanger and originally I wanted him to be my cpc getter but I've been using him more often cuz I want every mech in my hanger to get MVP in any way
Not really. They haven’t added much to the progress path since pilots as they have stopped adding stuff to it. Last item they added was the disc launcher 12 which is on this list for sure.
hard to say. We dont know how it will be introduced for f2p. If its an event crate rush, you will want at least 4k acoins, but probably more based on how they gave us asami (legendary pilot). That event cost more given her status. If it was in the progress path, it would probably between 7-9k acoins and then would need further upgrading for the dual copy. So I would think 9k acoins is fairly safe to bank on whether an event or a straight acoin buy if they add it to like inventory or something someday.
True but it’s not always easy to. Since MA never posts when they will do events, if you aren’t prepared for an event crate rush that’s acoin based, you could entirely miss a certain weapon or mech. This video is more of a worst case situation. I would assume many have at least a couple items they can swap in over these items but it will vary for each hangar.
@@scape211 It's true, I can't get all of them, like in the Tengu crate rush I'm stuck in 9 spins, and maybe I'll get Aegis if I don't Upgrade Guardian rank on the previous day, Like you said they didn't tell us anything about the next crate rush :( But I don't think it's a problem because, I can get some of them like Stalker, MR 12, Shotgun 8, LA 12, AT 12, And I was lucky to get EM 16 in the first spin..
Paragon has some fringe uses. Hes great for early game, but once you get stuff like panther, killshot, guardian, and ares he will be shelved. He does have some benefits very late game, but not something people typically run. Usually not worth investing heavily into.
@@scape211 hi! Thank you so much for the quick response. Really appreciate it 👍🏻 I'm in a dilemma atm My current hangar is Paragon with Dual Stasis 8 Killshot with Dual Javelin 6 Panther with Dual Pulse Canon 8 Ares with Dual RPG 6 Sitting on the bench are Arachnos with 16 energy Juggernaut with 8 energy I'm a F2P and I dunno what my next move. I have saved 1K A-Coins and 100K+ credits. I'm a mid range type of player, my favorite weapons are the Stasis Beam, Pulse Canon and RPG Please help me. Thank you so much
@@RyuHanawa hiya! Mid-range is kinda tricky as not a ton to weapons do mid range really well when it comes to meta. Your javs are good for now, but pulse cannons and stasis 8 don’t really kill stuff fast enough for their exposure time imo. I would try to work with longarm 8s and missile rack 8s if you can get those. Longarms are more ideal long range, but put out good damage and still do gold around 75 meters. Missile racks are usually designed to be close but can work in the 50 to 75 meter range and will cut down on your exposure time. Ares with the dual RPGs is decent for now too. You will likely want to save up for the disc launcher 8s. Those are very meta, don’t require too much exposure (due to their splash damage) and function for the mid-range. They might not be open on the progress path for you yet but are worth saving for if you can. Hope that helps!
I'm not entirely f2p, i just buy some weapons, mech levels are done f2p, but was just wondering if you would consider this to be a good end game loadout KS-RM12 Panther-EMR16 Stalker-DL12 Ares-Arc12 Zephyr-MR12 I don't really have anything for Zephyr so I'm just throwing on the best 12 energy weapon I have
yea those are solid weapon loadouts for sure. I did mention the RM12s for ks and arcs for Ares so even in this context that's very good. But the other stuff you got is even better and more meta so yea - solid stuff bro.
Yea that’s not bad either. Just harder for me to justify for later use versus guardian if you plan to max them for either swapping railguns or future 16 energy weapons you could get. I know some who run railguns on him though so it’s possible.
Depends what you want on a loadout for him. I did mention him for rocket mortars but I overall think he struggles for quite a few is real competitive play. Just too slow and not enough hp to compensate. I think he deserves more hp
I like the mortar 12 on killshot than carbine, spending 7k acoins for a weapon that's kinda so so 🙄 is not really cost effective. Panther - rail✔️ Surge - torrents all good ✔️ Ares - disc12 ✔️ Maybe zephyr - mr12s
Fair point, but remember Mr12s aren’t in the progress path. Maybe carb12 on zephyr instead? I completely agree that carbs aren’t worth their cost. But it’s really the best option from the progress path if someone doesn’t spend or have other options yet.
@@scape211 Could you tell me what you would recomend for my endgame and what my next steps would be? I have disc 12s and MR 12s and my ID is 15610909 and the username is Carnage
Well my friend got aegis and stalker from a crate rush on his FIRST TRY. I spent 3000 a coins to get tengu on my last try. And of course in T3, the game I can't play, (the updates are to big) i got both diggy and judex early on. So much for luck lol
I think Panther is better with Mortars. With better speed and statis barrier to slow down enemies who want to flank then keep the distance and finish with mortars. Guardian seems to me useless with mortars, slow can do nothing expect making the enemies reload if they flank.
I do agree that panther can be better in this case, but I don’t like using panther for mortars only. His ability is too good to just put mortars on him and have him sit in the back for me personally. But hey if that works for you absolutely do it.
@@scape211 yes that's I also agree. Panther is so damn versatile like he can be good with each and every weapon in any maps. I'm using mortars with him for an optional build. In some tourney maps :-) you know fire for fire. Otherwise, Discs and Longarms is my build
I would personally have orion instead of surge just as a flex, I somehow managed to win it in research pay-off event. I wasn't even trying it but i somehow got third. I am F2P player which makes things even better.
Grats to you! I would definitely put Orion in, but personally would still keep in surge if you have it. Both are worth being in any hangar imo. I couldn't use Orion for this list since he isn't f2p unless you got lucky (like you did). Enjoy! :)
thanks for the comment. I enjoy doing these videos, but they are tough to do. They take a lot of time, have limited use (since they keep introducing new stuff so frequently now), and I don't spend so I don't have everything in game.
After you buy the first railgun in the progress path or through some other purchase, you have to rank up that one to 6 stars. At 6 stars, it gives you a second copy. This is how all 10 energy or higher weapons work.
How to beat Mech Arena? Steps: 1) Get Stalker and upgrade to max. 2) Get RM 12 and get second copy. 3) Dual wield RMs on Stalker. (get Fei for extra kick) Congratulations! You are now able to beat the game with your eyes closed.
Unfortunately I don't use mortars 😬😬 So I put stasis beam16/ Thermal lance 4 on my guardian 😓 See the problem is first f2p players they are very late in-game, there are limited by event crate rushes and play-offs and their hangers increase slower than you would expect I love to grind In mech arena but p2have players and rocket mortarers get in my way
@@scape211 yes,but it's the old saying: _If you can't beat em',join em'_ And u don't want to join them I like action Face to face combat, especially 2v2 Deathmatch,my favorite ☺️😊
@@_DAKAR_ depends on what build you are doing. Generally speaking ares is gonna do well with sustain fire weapons like carb12s or dl12 since he’s tanky. Orion will do better with burst like mr12s or LA12s given his ability and slightly squisher body
I would use juggernaut with rocket mortars than guardian because juggernaut sheild can be handy from rocket mortar attacks . I think guardian is good with carbine 12 and can use its system crash. I use killshot with arc torrents until i get surge
True but can only really fill that roll well imo. Killshot is far more versatile to me and people will use it in a ton of different ways. It’s also why you see a lot more killshot mortars builds late game than you do paragon. Maxing out a killshot makes far more sense for most.
@@scape211 Thats true. I like kill for close fights, gurdian for snipe with rails. So Paragon was my budget choice :) But you are right when I face killshot MR12 player I have quite a problem :D Maybe after I will grind surge I put my mortals on killshot :)
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I agree with all of this, and this is a very valid hangar for late-game. Keep in mind that this is the worst-case scenario, assuming you get *no* premium weapons or implants to use.
The only thing I want to point out is that Asami (or any other Legendary Pilot added to the shop) is better to use instead of an Epic. Even non-specialized, Legendary pilots do better than Epic.
Fair point on asami. Tbh when I started working on this video asami wasn’t available. That’s how long this one took me overtime inbetween other things this summer lol.
I also want to mention that you called this a valid late game hangar. So you in a small way are endorsing killshot 😂😂😂
@@scape211 the speed they are bring something out, it’s hard to keep up with it all! You give us all a great insight and path to follow so as no to take the wrong hanger paths.
I learnt the hard way, I used my credit a long time ago and got Redox. I then saw you review and was like…. “Darn I wish I saw that before!” You were spot on!
Ruffy 😁
You're missing out on 8% damage if you use an unspecialized legendary pilot over epic but there's definitely a case to make for the extra health and extra implant slot
We need a more up to date version of this! Awesome video!
YES
Absolutely, I'm F2p and this isnt up to date anymore
Amazing video scape. You came back with a banger and I totally agree with what you said, all points where covered. I'm sure this video will help out many people
lol you answered my question about dl 12 and carb 12! Handy video once again. :)
Thx for the vid, decided to not give plarium any more money until they make it less p2w again and this guide really helped 👍
This video was very helpful , thanks Scape really appreciate your time and effort in making this video so informative 👍
Soooo glad you did the video. I am 100% free to play and have been saving for a Surge but was having second thoughts as it’s such a huge investment. Having watched the great video, Surge will fill a gap in my hanger!
He does take a while to save for, but with his changes he totally worth it imo. In the meantime, you can use zephyr who is far cheaper and only credits. Hes still worthy of end game as well so no harm in investing. And like I said in the video, if you get lucky and get zephyr legendary ability range boost, he's much better in real 5v5 combat and can stay in the hangar over surge for most.
@@scape211 thanks Scape211! I did get lucky and got the legendary zephyrs range free. Zephyr with that mod is one of my strongest mechs. Funny thing is I still haven’t managed to get a single mortar radius mod lol so my mortar 12 are pretty bad.
@@garryt6356 oh nice on the zephyr one! that's one I still don't have but am jealous of those who do. It can literally dominate smaller tdm maps and all 2v2 maps. 45m is huge for those cases. Most players don't prepare for a 45m freeze too so it catches many off guard and has that going for it over surge too. In your case, you are probably fine sticking with zephyr for a bit and only getting surge if you need the speed. Hes expensive for sure.
@@scape211 to be honest I want the surge to help me combat mortar users. Without a radius mod, my mortars aren’t very effective. Plus I think the speed will help against the EM weapons. Due to the delay firing, I need to zip zip around! Lol. I hope you win the Zephyr legendary mod soon mate. You are right it is a game changer!
@@garryt6356 yup - surge can be nice for dealing with backline guys since it has some stealth. Such a great mech now! As for EM rifles, they have targeting assist and I have been dusted mid-dash in a killshot so it wont always save you. But speed definitely helps for a lot of aspects besides that so its very useful.
Great video as always man! :)
I agree with all builds but the Guardian. Like you had mentioned the Guardian has the health to survive counter Mortar fire, but the damage could be avoided entirely by using a Panther, Killshot or Stalker instead. I know Stalker isn't available for F2P players but hopefully by the time most of us reach end game like myself, Stalker will be available. Paired with it's speed like a Panther and health like a Brickhouse and a damage boosting self healing ability it will be the perfect mech for Mortar use.
I understand and agree Stalker would be better. I actually use him with mortars quite a bit. I also said that killshot is another option for mortars when I was talking about killshot so I agree with you there too. I mainly talk about guardian here in the hopes that you can use your upgraded guardian later when you get other 16 energy weapons. I hope that as you grow other 16 energy weapons will be available to because they should be.
Went back and watched some of your older videos.
Miss you Brother.
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Great info with lots to plan for. I'd like to see the same treatment for mid game, 16-20 energy, 1500-2500 (?) power.
And also perhaps more information on when it becomes early/mid/late/maxed game, just because I find it interesting!
ive been waiting for a vid like this from somebody for a while so thanks for this, it was very helpful
Discs on Panther. Carbs on Ares. Mortars on Killshot. Rails on Guardian. Just a slight variation of what you’ve got, is basically the previous meta. That is: before Graviton, Orion, and Em Rifle. So that’s still nothing to sneeze at.
I'm new to this game, started it 2 days ago. Thank you for this video
It's really addictive. So be careful lol.
Reeeee i got to comment within first 5 mins!!!! Love ya gaming vids brother!
Thanks scape, im not skipping the ads for this.. lol
Finally best load out video! thanks scape!
Am early nice and very help full vido
I was wondering that, didn’t even search for a video but find that?! Man, you’re just a savor. Savior? Idk English’s not my main language
Wasup Scapeeeeee lots of love
love back at ya!
Besides Surge, I use the same Mechs. I use Zephyr. Nice Information.
11:43 I'm constantly being paired against 6k sp guys in my tourny matches while my max sp goes to 3.4k right now. I was holding my ground with my arc/stalker, rm/panther and dl/guardian but now after this update whole aiming system is messed up and my two main setups Arcs and RMs feels useless cause of stupid aim which just hard lock on the farthest possible target instead of the one which is right in front of me. First i thought it's only me, then i saw many others complaining about it too on discord and fb page. No words from devs yet.
You can change your aim to.. vertical I believe and it won’t lock on as much. Better with discs as well cause you actually can aim them, much easier to kill
I think that covering particular hangars is better than mech specific loadouts especially with all the pilot stuff and all, this reduces a lot of hassle. The dual railgun panther and dual disc launcher ares is the most common end game f2p loadouts that I have seen in so many in hangars even the implants are right for those two. Generally I see more players use dual rm on ks once they get it to 24 energy and more than the dual carbine 12 major setup nowadays I see dual mr12 nova setup with epic dmg and reload implants and ks dash distance. the carbine 12 setup isn't much preferred by many becoz it isn't really good for 1v1 against someone but still I do see it in some hangars. I think people started investing in surge only recently but something pretty equal to that is zephyr. Many f2p use zephyr dual arc 10 and glock setup if they don't have surge. the guardian rm build is actually used by many f2p in tdm. mostly becoz guardian is the last mech to max for many and it has high hp so it makes it good for surviving throughout a match as well. before a few months people used to use guardian for stasis beams but that wasn't so effective so it is changed now. if stalker was there in the progress path it would be good to use rms on.
Totally agree. Ks carb12 is the weakest setup here but given how common the other builds are, it made the most sense for it based on the limitations. I agree that for most, RM12s or mr12 are better once you have a couple other items in your hangar.
not really sure about this but disc launcher is very important weapon especially if you are in mid cause speaking from experience I died a lot cause the disc launcher is to powerfull back in those days and after I get myself a disc launcher the course of the my battle started to change rapidly. Now I win alot more than before.
Totally agree. That’s why I think it’s important to think smart about it’s use and why I don’t run it on killshot as most tend to use him aggressively (which he’s kinda designed for)
6:45 so now you tell me that i thought i was iron man no wonder u kept getting shredded so quickly when i run everywhere and anywhere😂
Thanks for the video Scape! You will really help me when my Noob to Pro series when I reach endgame. Thanks!! (BTW can you do a video like this for mid game? My hanger is in mid-game)
yea I;'ve had a few people ask for that. What would you consider mid-game though? Like 2-3k ish SP? Still not sure where that fall tbh. Mid-game has changed as the power scale has shifted.
@@scape211 I consider mid-game between 20,000 exp and 130,000 exp. Thats how I consider mid-game
1.5k to 2.5k maybe?
Thanks for this video !
Now i know what advice to f2p players ))
For the time when this vid was published. Solid. However I’d switch weapons on guardian and panther. Reason? Guardian is meant to be close up since his ability. And railguns are that. Panther is great for practically any weapon. But stasis beam 16 is decent and good too.
Im not in endgame yet but is this decent?
Guardian - Dual Arc Torrent 6
Killshot - Dual Javelin Rack 6
Zephyr - Dual Missile Rack 8
Panther - Dual Longarm 8
Ares - Dual Missile Rack 6
I'm not great in aiming, I don't think railgun will work for me, but I have access to misdile rack 12, which mech should I put on?
Killshot is a common choice. I mainly have the carbines in here due to the progress path limitations. But missile racks can easily replace it. Missile racks can also go good on max zephyr or surge. Plenty of great options for missile rack 12. Just depends on what works best for you and your hangar.
@@scape211 thrn maybe zephyr, as I have carbines too, and I'm lucky enough to get the zephyr ability range implant for free.
i give'em a quick shot with stasis 16 to slow them a bit then hit them with rail gun almost never miss like that
Sir why are you underrated ...?
I'm not sure how to answer that lol. Do you mean in terms of subscribers vs others that are bigger? They put out content more frequently than I do and fill other niches that maybe get them more views? I dunno man.
guys,. quick question. what button raises the shield (windows)? thanks.
like using plarium play? i think space bar is the ability button which would raise the shield of all shield type mechs (juggy, ares, panther, etc)
Great video sir
If you don't mind can you please make a video on hangar review this weekend 🙏 so that we all can come to know that what all materials we need to build up our end game hangar
I definitely want to do more hangar reviews, but I wont be able to this weekend. But its definitely overdue and I want to do one!
@@scape211 Nice I am waiting for it
Are you gonna do another one because in f2p end game hangers no ares no killshot because there kinda bad late game
Yeah,mine was panther with LA 10+12 and maverick(lucky from event),Ares with DLs8 and Rosa,killshot with JR 8 and rare pilot of guide,paragon with RM 12s and spark(it's maxed out btw),and Zephyr with AT6+10 and G-lock
That sounds like a good mid-game hangar. Youre on your way!
Ty so much for this, I'm not a whale but kinda like a light spender. I think I will get orion from the new offer so I can help my hanger at the moment
I agree generally (though not sure about carbines on KS) but I just have missile racks on KS, Surge and Panther, Railgun on Brickhouse and Arc torrent on Ares. Prolly I will switch the weps around when I reach end game - I’m at 5k now. Racks are fun and I don’t use guided or non aimed weapons like discs or mortars I think they are lame AF
Is there any way you can get Dual Weapons without making a Second copy ?
Nice list but I'd make a few changes:
Zypher with MR 8
KS with Jav 8s (are they f2p) or DL 12s
Ares with AT 10s
Same for last two panther and G
I realise you're not maxing some stuff but this would be more effective?
Jav 8s are not f2p as they can only be bought from the shop with real money nowadays… They could have considered f2p only during their first released as the devs gave out so many event tokens though a derby event that you were 100% guarantee to get it…
I can see Ares with arc10 being decent and I mentioned that as a possible alternate during his section. mr8s are a bit too weak for most at end game as their caliber is too low. Same kinda issue for jav8s and even more so as you heavily heavily rely on double damage and its only 30% chance max. These are great weapons, but not realistic for end game for most in real competitive play. They can work for support or group killing, but generally limited to certain conditions.
Can you put arc twelve on surge?
Would shotgun 8 be good on kill shot instead of carbine 12s ?
Yea I think it could be. I have not tested it, but on paper the overall damage is similar, but the burst dps and lesser exposure time of the shotgun appears better. And since killshot will likely be dashing into enemies it makes sense for finishing them off. You do lose long range flexibility that carbs can bring so you will have to adjust your playstyle and likely specialize what targets you focus on.
The main reason I didnt add shotgun8s in was because its not technically a f2p weapon since you cant attain it apart from special events or spending. But its one of (of not the) best 8 energy weapon.
It's lucky to see the legendary implant for range of arc torrent on the shop, but more lucky to get it of a basic implant chest as I did
I also got it, it was first legendary implant!
Hey there. Great videos. What you think about misle rack 12?
Very good weapon worth getting. Wish it was on the progress path. If so I definitely would’ve used it here in seats of the carb12s
@@scape211 thanks for answering i plan to unlock 2nd copi and to use it on kilshot. Im f2p so not yet wining all weapons. I Will try to sawe for railgun in future
First again my guy 😈
(Also first view)
I think I waas technically the first view, but it probably doesn't count it before it goes live haha.
@@scape211 makes sense. You were probably first view when editing lol
@@LobotomizedPlatypus hey its no biggie man. you can take first bro. All views count. thanks for watching :)
@@scape211 no problem man 👍
i was thinking of putting stasis beam 16 on my panther and putting railgun 16 on my guardien what do you think???
I dont think SB16 is meta enough for many, but its not useless either. Definitely requires good skill and awareness and a strong team to back you up
Hi,Scape211.
I am f2p,I am lucky, I get the EM12 from the rush event, should I build the EM12 or Railguns on panther?
My f2p hanger would have been :
Jugg arc 10, ares arc 12, killshot mortars, panther disc 12 and guardian LA 10
But because i got some goodies my hanger is gonna be: tengu shotgun 8, stalker arc 12, ares arc 10 or disc 12, panther disc 16 and guardian disc12 or killshot mortars
Nice upgrades! I would do the DL12 on areas since you already have a close-range arc mech and killshot with mortars. Its a better loadout than the guardian with mortars. I only use that here based on the limitations of f2p. You could also put the RM12s on stalker and put arcs on ks if you need more speed for early game or getting behind enemies. Great stuff to work with though.
@@scape211 alright man thanks for the tips
Hey scape, i just 6 stared my dl12, is dl16 much better than 12?! Would it be oky if i dont go with 16 and just work with 12?
Put DL12 on Brickhouse or Stalker and boom you got DL16, 🤣🤣. DL16 has higher damage but slower projectiles than 12
I think both are quite viable and I plan on using both once I get the 16. If you can only choose one, it depends on the hangar. If you have stalker or orion to use with the 12s, it can be equally viable as a 16 loadout in a lot of cases.
Very helpful, Sir. How about Stalker with DL12 +Rosa, Killshot with MR12+ Nova and Guardian with Carbine 12 + Major, I want my Guardian for brawling tanks and other attackers. Is it good?? RM Guardian seems too camper to me, I don't like sitting in back and pressing buttons
Yea thats great too. I couldnt use Stalker or mr12s for this video based on the limitations, but both are better than what I had here. Personally I would use other stuff on Guardian unless you don't have other options. Tbh, the carb12s are the weakest weapon for end game in the current meta. They arent terrible, but they arent particularly good either.
Scape do you have any tips on grinding for the rallgun besides torny?
tourney is really the best way. you can get about 400 to 500 casually each week, but tdm helps you get a lot more each week. You can also get extra in certain events, the progress path, and achievements. But its not a ton and not that reliable. tdm is the best to grind for.
@@scape211 k thanks
Hopefully they will brings DL16 to f2p as you said
Can you make a midgame version?
What about tengu? i dont have shotgun 8s so what should i put
arc 10/6 is fairly popular. I think EM10/6 will possibly be a thing too.
I feel kinda lucky, I got the em16 for my free draw and I'm praying for the Archangel as well
Im jealous - grats! :)
Danggg, I just got blueprints, but honestly, that's fine, I got grav 16 last time! But I never get the top weapon/pilot... It's almost hilarious at this point how unlucky I am... *Life of a f2p player*
Good luck
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Same
Am a 100% f2p and still managed to get arc 12 through crate rush. I always make sure to have 6k acoins i won't touch to be ready for disc 12 or stalker acoin crate rush. Not going to invest on carbines and not going to upgrade guardian. Surge shadow stalker panther arres and killshot are the mech on which i will work and as weapon mortar arc 10s and 12 shootguns disc 12 and 16 that's all i need. I think in one year from now i'll have them all
Great choices and general plan. I entirely agree with the method. Keep at it! 👍
I guess I am in mid game now my hanger is and stays around 2900, I am disappointed I did not see the cheetah make the cut. I am a huge ambush player, he is my top killer at the moment, I think I do well when teamed up with 4k hangers I can make the top 3. Tell me there is hope for cheetah I don't want to spend the a coins on 6 stars if I don't have to.
If you are good with cheetah, you can keep using him. However, I have to be honest in saying I haven't seen one beyond like the 3kish range in hangars. Hes fun and capable, but limited based on his energy set and ability. I think he relies too much on ideal situations to work strongly in his favor while other mechs can find more generaliZed areas to stay effective everywhere. I would love to see someone who is end game rocking a strong cheetah though!
Same as lancer / shadow, very fun but need to be maxed (jav8 for example) and in the long run its not gona be your main choice
Yeah, agreeable
I really want cheetah to be part of my hanger but killshot is my faster mech in my hanger and originally I wanted him to be my cpc getter but I've been using him more often cuz I want every mech in my hanger to get MVP in any way
Are shotgun 8's a good endgame weapon?
absolutely. probably the best 8 energy weapon set for end game. Many use them on tengu if you have him, but if not shadow is also a solid option.
The loadouts changed anything at all since Pilot update?
Not really. They haven’t added much to the progress path since pilots as they have stopped adding stuff to it. Last item they added was the disc launcher 12 which is on this list for sure.
@@scape211 at least there's news about the rework to progress path?
Are you gonna do a Tier List overall without the f2p limitations??
Whats tdm?
Can you do one for paragon?
How long would it probably take me to save up for disc launcher 16 ???
hard to say. We dont know how it will be introduced for f2p. If its an event crate rush, you will want at least 4k acoins, but probably more based on how they gave us asami (legendary pilot). That event cost more given her status. If it was in the progress path, it would probably between 7-9k acoins and then would need further upgrading for the dual copy. So I would think 9k acoins is fairly safe to bank on whether an event or a straight acoin buy if they add it to like inventory or something someday.
Sorry scape I meant disc launcher 12
How long do you think it would take to get all the a coins as a free to play player a year???
Even if you're f2p but you've been playing since 2021 you can get a lot of weapons and mechs that aren't available in inventory...
True but it’s not always easy to. Since MA never posts when they will do events, if you aren’t prepared for an event crate rush that’s acoin based, you could entirely miss a certain weapon or mech. This video is more of a worst case situation. I would assume many have at least a couple items they can swap in over these items but it will vary for each hangar.
@@scape211 It's true, I can't get all of them, like in the Tengu crate rush I'm stuck in 9 spins, and maybe I'll get Aegis if I don't Upgrade Guardian rank on the previous day, Like you said they didn't tell us anything about the next crate rush :(
But I don't think it's a problem because, I can get some of them like Stalker, MR 12, Shotgun 8, LA 12, AT 12, And I was lucky to get EM 16 in the first spin..
@@aryadm2412 tbh those sound like better options than tengu and aegis. Well done!
Any comments about Paragon? Is it worth upgrading?
Thank you. Your videos really helpful
Paragon has some fringe uses. Hes great for early game, but once you get stuff like panther, killshot, guardian, and ares he will be shelved. He does have some benefits very late game, but not something people typically run. Usually not worth investing heavily into.
@@scape211 hi! Thank you so much for the quick response. Really appreciate it 👍🏻
I'm in a dilemma atm
My current hangar is
Paragon with Dual Stasis 8
Killshot with Dual Javelin 6
Panther with Dual Pulse Canon 8
Ares with Dual RPG 6
Sitting on the bench are
Arachnos with 16 energy
Juggernaut with 8 energy
I'm a F2P and I dunno what my next move. I have saved 1K A-Coins and 100K+ credits. I'm a mid range type of player, my favorite weapons are the Stasis Beam, Pulse Canon and RPG
Please help me. Thank you so much
@@RyuHanawa hiya! Mid-range is kinda tricky as not a ton to weapons do mid range really well when it comes to meta. Your javs are good for now, but pulse cannons and stasis 8 don’t really kill stuff fast enough for their exposure time imo. I would try to work with longarm 8s and missile rack 8s if you can get those. Longarms are more ideal long range, but put out good damage and still do gold around 75 meters. Missile racks are usually designed to be close but can work in the 50 to 75 meter range and will cut down on your exposure time. Ares with the dual RPGs is decent for now too. You will likely want to save up for the disc launcher 8s. Those are very meta, don’t require too much exposure (due to their splash damage) and function for the mid-range. They might not be open on the progress path for you yet but are worth saving for if you can. Hope that helps!
Wo... Video which I wanted...
Yay a guide
Bold of u to think I had that much acoins, I don’t even have 400
Oh yea I don’t expect everyone to have all these acoins instantly. These are goals to work towards long term 😉
I'm not entirely f2p, i just buy some weapons, mech levels are done f2p, but was just wondering if you would consider this to be a good end game loadout
KS-RM12
Panther-EMR16
Stalker-DL12
Ares-Arc12
Zephyr-MR12
I don't really have anything for Zephyr so I'm just throwing on the best 12 energy weapon I have
yea those are solid weapon loadouts for sure. I did mention the RM12s for ks and arcs for Ares so even in this context that's very good. But the other stuff you got is even better and more meta so yea - solid stuff bro.
@@scape211 alright, thanks, now I just need to get roughly 50,000 a-coins to get there
Rate my panther:
5* panther with dl 16 & 8
Not bad! I see that one a bit too. Works well
Les gooooooo!!!
But, how about Paragon with Rocket Mortars instead?
Yea that’s not bad either. Just harder for me to justify for later use versus guardian if you plan to max them for either swapping railguns or future 16 energy weapons you could get. I know some who run railguns on him though so it’s possible.
What about brickhouse??? He just like stalker...with teammates power which is awesome 🤩
Depends what you want on a loadout for him. I did mention him for rocket mortars but I overall think he struggles for quite a few is real competitive play. Just too slow and not enough hp to compensate. I think he deserves more hp
My setup :-
1. Kill shot - dual arc 10, glock, epic dmg, mag, ability dmg implants
2. Panther - railgun + la12, maverick epic la dmg, relod, epic rg dmg implant
3. Surge - mr12 + mr8, samsom, epic reload, dmg implant
4. Guardian ( replaced by Orion after available) dual rm12, fei, epic radius, dmg, epic ability cooldown or dual dl12 according to map
5. Brickhouse (replaced by stalker after available) railgun + tl2 torchligh or myna arc 12 according to map
makes a lot of sense there. I definitely see Stalker and Orion as super meta so great choices to swap in
Brickhouse with major carbine 12 as boss
I like the mortar 12 on killshot than carbine, spending 7k acoins for a weapon that's kinda so so 🙄 is not really cost effective.
Panther - rail✔️
Surge - torrents all good ✔️
Ares - disc12 ✔️
Maybe zephyr - mr12s
Fair point, but remember Mr12s aren’t in the progress path. Maybe carb12 on zephyr instead? I completely agree that carbs aren’t worth their cost. But it’s really the best option from the progress path if someone doesn’t spend or have other options yet.
I think the zephr would be better than guardian because you can freeze people who get close to stop them from staying in your blind range for mortars
Thats a solid option as well
@@scape211 Could you tell me what you would recomend for my endgame and what my next steps would be? I have disc 12s and MR 12s and my ID is 15610909 and the username is Carnage
Well my friend got aegis and stalker from a crate rush on his FIRST TRY.
I spent 3000 a coins to get tengu on my last try.
And of course in T3, the game I can't play, (the updates are to big) i got both diggy and judex early on.
So much for luck lol
Oh but I did get legendary sky strike from a basic crate
Hopefully you can find more space on your device for T3 but I get it man. Games these days are huge
@@scape211 yeah mech arena is pretty small in comparison. My minecraft data is like 3-5 Giga bytes lol
I think Panther is better with Mortars. With better speed and statis barrier to slow down enemies who want to flank then keep the distance and finish with mortars. Guardian seems to me useless with mortars, slow can do nothing expect making the enemies reload if they flank.
I do agree that panther can be better in this case, but I don’t like using panther for mortars only. His ability is too good to just put mortars on him and have him sit in the back for me personally. But hey if that works for you absolutely do it.
@@scape211 yes that's I also agree. Panther is so damn versatile like he can be good with each and every weapon in any maps. I'm using mortars with him for an optional build. In some tourney maps :-) you know fire for fire. Otherwise, Discs and Longarms is my build
I would personally have orion instead of surge just as a flex, I somehow managed to win it in research pay-off event. I wasn't even trying it but i somehow got third. I am F2P player which makes things even better.
Grats to you! I would definitely put Orion in, but personally would still keep in surge if you have it. Both are worth being in any hangar imo. I couldn't use Orion for this list since he isn't f2p unless you got lucky (like you did). Enjoy! :)
Yeah I could use surge but I think I'll save up for disk launcher 12 instead.
( I really like the weapon )
Please do more best loadouts
thanks for the comment. I enjoy doing these videos, but they are tough to do. They take a lot of time, have limited use (since they keep introducing new stuff so frequently now), and I don't spend so I don't have everything in game.
Ok
I love your mceh arena videos they are so help full
Do you got the em rifle 16
is redox worth the cost?
No
No, wait till they buff Redox like Surge. Redox is like the weakest Attacker mech
No I dont think so. I hope he is buffed again.
No man, not good enough I'm afraid :/
Bro how to buy 2nd railgun
After you buy the first railgun in the progress path or through some other purchase, you have to rank up that one to 6 stars. At 6 stars, it gives you a second copy. This is how all 10 energy or higher weapons work.
@@scape211 copy available when any high lv weapons 6s
@@scape211 thanks for info
I have em rifill 16,tengu,shotgug8, missile rank 12,archengel and myana . And I am f2p
How to beat Mech Arena?
Steps:
1) Get Stalker and upgrade to max.
2) Get RM 12 and get second copy.
3) Dual wield RMs on Stalker.
(get Fei for extra kick)
Congratulations! You are now able to beat the game with your eyes closed.
I mean it is quite good for a setup lol
@@scape211
Rocket Mortars...
When we use it: 😍😎
When enemy use it: 😫😡
Thanks
I wonder how this hangar looks now
Best builds for mid players
Do best mech lod out for stalker
Bro how to get dual rail gun iam a new player
from the progress path. Railguns are at the end of the progress path so they take a while to get, but still a great weapon end game.
bro killshot is best for mortars and gaurdian is good for carbines
Unfortunately I don't use mortars 😬😬
So I put stasis beam16/ Thermal lance 4 on my guardian 😓
See the problem is first f2p players they are very late in-game, there are limited by event crate rushes and play-offs and their hangers increase slower than you would expect
I love to grind In mech arena but p2have players and rocket mortarers get in my way
I get it. But I think using rocket mortars is inevitable and you will need to as well. It’s unfortunate but true
@@scape211 yes,but it's the old saying: _If you can't beat em',join em'_
And u don't want to join them I like action
Face to face combat, especially 2v2 Deathmatch,my favorite ☺️😊
Id keep surge and replace the rest with brick house ,redox, cheetah,and zypher
interesting choices! what makes you pick each of those? do you use them for specific purposes or playstyle? always enjoy hearing people strategies :)
Aunque el video esta en inglés y no tenga sustitutos en español clara mente entendí ala perfección exelente video de información 👍🏻
Ahora tengo una pregunta tu cual mech prefieres a orion o surge . Cual es mejor para ti honestamente
@@_DAKAR_ depends on what build you are doing. Generally speaking ares is gonna do well with sustain fire weapons like carb12s or dl12 since he’s tanky. Orion will do better with burst like mr12s or LA12s given his ability and slightly squisher body
Arc torrents on ares maybe? I know a few people who use that build.
I would use juggernaut with rocket mortars than guardian because juggernaut sheild can be handy from rocket mortar attacks
. I think guardian is good with carbine 12 and can use its system crash. I use killshot with arc torrents until i get surge
Paragon is much better choice for mortal. Cheap and effectivity is similar to killshot rm build
True but can only really fill that roll well imo. Killshot is far more versatile to me and people will use it in a ton of different ways. It’s also why you see a lot more killshot mortars builds late game than you do paragon. Maxing out a killshot makes far more sense for most.
@@scape211 Thats true. I like kill for close fights, gurdian for snipe with rails. So Paragon was my budget choice :) But you are right when I face killshot MR12 player I have quite a problem :D Maybe after I will grind surge I put my mortals on killshot :)
Can you give a early game
My hangar SP is 3.8 k now being as a F2p player I made myself this far by not spending money
Same here! I am 3.4k, and have not spent a dime :)
@@litbrickpics nice
Ty
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