This brings back some great memories from 1987. I worked with the other band at EPCOT and had the pleasure of hanging out with some of these guys. That's Bubba on snare, the man from Wisconsin on tri's and the fantastic Paulie Collins on bass drums. Bob Franklin was a great leader and bugle player. Sorry I can't remember more of their names -- I'm over 50, dudes.
dude......... key word there is trumpet. Yes, 3 valve trumpets have been around since the year of the flood. Future Corps didn't use trumpets. They used G bugles. For many years, G bugles were 2 valves. DCI made the switch to 3 valves over a multi-year period. Just not sure when (late 80's, early 90's???). Future Corps made the switch earlier than DCI (they had the prototype horns). Note, the DCI corps have started to switch to Bb instruments.
@SNSKreationz Universal/IOA didn't have a band when I was there in April of 2008. I don't recall seeing anything on the entertainment list. Magic Kingdom has had a band in the daytime parade that marches in red and white uniforms. The one I saw was a brass band with trumpets, trombones and sousaphones instead of G bugles like FC used (soprano, melophone, baritone & contra). They also had three drummers (snare, quads and single bass).
That must have been great to meet and work with some of them. I did get to talk briefly with one of the horn players in 1998 about the rack mounted drums. Anyway.... in 1990, I caught just about every performance over a 2 day period. Saw them a few more times between then and 1994. It was just incredible to me that such a small group could sound so full. Was really disappointed when I went in 2001 to find they were no longer there.
@Fragite They're playing on G bugles which are harder to play than standard Bb brass. They also will always have a different tonal quality regardless of the ability of the players. G bugles have a raspier tone. Also, if I remember correctly, these are prototype 3 valved horns. As for your comment on recognizing when someone isn't very good... are you saying they weren't very good? These guys are pros and most if not all came from Top 12 DCI corps.
you're lucky u saw them live. i never had the chance to saw them live but i had the privilege of working with the lead trumpet Bob Franklin and the bass drum player Paul Collins during the opening of hong kong disneyland. they're not just great musician but nice people too.
I think those were the prototype 3 valve G bugles. I read somewhere that Future Corps was using 3-valves before DCI. Note the triple bass drums. This puts this video before 1997 or so. They switched to the rack mounted drums around that time. Other videos on RUclips with the triple bass drums are circa 1991. Have to say, I always felt the triple-bass sounded better than the 6 rack mounted bass drums. Much better sound projection. Also Future Corps disbanded I think in early 2001.
I love the samba part too, StickyxSkittle. Whenever I think of this video, when it gets to the samba part the whole image just rotates 30 degrees, like the song. This is definitely a wonderful piece and I think it would be fun to learn.
this piece is actually Brass Roots. My school band has played both and either one is a smash hit with crowds. each year we have gotten gold at the national level for one piece or the other
Agreed TWBaltz. I definitely prefer the G bugles. Today's corps lost something with the switch to Bb (well..... the amplified commentary doesn't help either). And yeah, these guys were amazing.
i just love this song, the original, and every version of it. I play this in my jazz band (drummer) and i feel like im flying when i play it. i hate how people are walking by, not even caring about this genius of a band. There is a really tight groove thats not found in alot of bands like this.
Started I believe all dci corps now play on Bbs. Pioneer was the last to switch like 2 years ago. Now DCA corps still use Bugles ( well some ) like statesmen.
@SNSKreationz You're welcome. I don't recall seeing saxophones, but it's possible. I think it was 2005 or 2007 that I saw them. Can't remember. I got the impression that it was actually the Tomorrowland band just with different uniforms and marching in the parade. If they had saxophones as well, it could have been the sax quartet/quintet joining them. Disney has been cutting entertainment groups. Not sure if they're still there. Voices got cut down to 8 singers at Epcot.
Do you think you could get a recording of When You Wish Upon a Star? My Band has a gig at Disney Land and my Director said I could pick the song if I could get the info. All I need is a sample.
i havent been to epcot.... but im pretty sure its either magic kingdom or islands of adventure/universal has a band like this too. i was there is 1999 and 2001. anyone else know what im talking about? from what i remembered they were wearing red
thats the same thing i saw back in 2001 im sure. they had saxophones im sure. and i am positive they had a bass drummer. ill look into that because i really wanna see them again on my next visit :) thx
Awesome! I think they sound very good for the size for the group. I'm a drummer and played this at my high school's music talent show in the jazz ensemble...so much fun to play. when was this filmed?
I need The Future Corps' one. I've been searchimg RUclips everyday. Futurecorpsfan closed his account and his MySpace page and he had multiple recordings. Thanks though.
I just love these comments that they're not that good..... Especially when the poster says they can do better, but don't post anything to back it up. I'm still waiting to see something from m4dclaw......... And as has been said before, these aren't trumpets. They're using G bugles. Oh and BTW..... your brother really shouldn't be posting under your account. Let him make his own account.
Make no mistake these guys are all great, but for me... anyone besides Maynard himself playing this song just seems to fall short. Great effort though!
m4dclaw, they're not good?! You're kidding, right? I guess you can do better. I don't know what you see wrong with the tempo. I just listened to a number of Brass Machine videos..... All but one seemed too slow. That one sounded like a studio recording. It was David Stahl. The tempo was almost the same as this. FYI.... those are G bugles so they're not trumpets. They're sopranos. But I'm just nitpicking.
Exactly timpanista. They have no idea who the guys are, where they're from or what drum corps used to be. If anyone says it's not good, I wonder if they can do better. If they say they can, I want to see proof.. and not just on a trumpet. Let's see them do it on a G bugle. The videos are great but don't do the group justice. First saw them in 1990. When I rounded the corner, I was amazed at the sound of just three drummers and 10 horns (missing 1 contra). Was expecting a bigger group.
I'm pretty sure Maynard never played this. There's a recording of it floating around online that reference Maynard, but it's really the Army Band with Dave Deitweiller soloing. If anyone knows of an actual Maynard recording, please post a link. Here's the mislabeled one. I started listening to Maynard in 1973. That is definitely not his tone or style. ruclips.net/video/dPh-sY32kSA/видео.html
This brings back some great memories from 1987. I worked with the other band at EPCOT and had the pleasure of hanging out with some of these guys. That's Bubba on snare, the man from Wisconsin on tri's and the fantastic Paulie Collins on bass drums. Bob Franklin was a great leader and bugle player. Sorry I can't remember more of their names -- I'm over 50, dudes.
C'mon Disney Bring Future Corps back PLEASE! I already work at Epcot and I can play trumpet and mellophone.
I miss the G bugles of the old corps. These guys are amazing.
dude......... key word there is trumpet. Yes, 3 valve trumpets have been around since the year of the flood. Future Corps didn't use trumpets. They used G bugles. For many years, G bugles were 2 valves.
DCI made the switch to 3 valves over a multi-year period. Just not sure when (late 80's, early 90's???). Future Corps made the switch earlier than DCI (they had the prototype horns).
Note, the DCI corps have started to switch to Bb instruments.
@SNSKreationz
Universal/IOA didn't have a band when I was there in April of 2008. I don't recall seeing anything on the entertainment list.
Magic Kingdom has had a band in the daytime parade that marches in red and white uniforms. The one I saw was a brass band with trumpets, trombones and sousaphones instead of G bugles like FC used (soprano, melophone, baritone & contra). They also had three drummers (snare, quads and single bass).
Wow does this take me back, to the late 80's with Bob Franklin, Paul Collins, Bubba, etc. Good job, studs.
That must have been great to meet and work with some of them. I did get to talk briefly with one of the horn players in 1998 about the rack mounted drums.
Anyway.... in 1990, I caught just about every performance over a 2 day period. Saw them a few more times between then and 1994. It was just incredible to me that such a small group could sound so full.
Was really disappointed when I went in 2001 to find they were no longer there.
Why haven't more people watched this? Mindboggling!
@Fragite They're playing on G bugles which are harder to play than standard Bb brass. They also will always have a different tonal quality regardless of the ability of the players. G bugles have a raspier tone. Also, if I remember correctly, these are prototype 3 valved horns.
As for your comment on recognizing when someone isn't very good... are you saying they weren't very good? These guys are pros and most if not all came from Top 12 DCI corps.
you're lucky u saw them live. i never had the chance to saw them live but i had the privilege of working with the lead trumpet Bob Franklin and the bass drum player Paul Collins during the opening of hong kong disneyland. they're not just great musician but nice people too.
I like this group of music! I'm so sad this band don't play !!!
Thank you for this great music!!!
I think those were the prototype 3 valve G bugles. I read somewhere that Future Corps was using 3-valves before DCI. Note the triple bass drums. This puts this video before 1997 or so. They switched to the rack mounted drums around that time. Other videos on RUclips with the triple bass drums are circa 1991. Have to say, I always felt the triple-bass sounded better than the 6 rack mounted bass drums. Much better sound projection. Also Future Corps disbanded I think in early 2001.
I love the samba part too, StickyxSkittle. Whenever I think of this video, when it gets to the samba part the whole image just rotates 30 degrees, like the song.
This is definitely a wonderful piece and I think it would be fun to learn.
I played this in my high school jazz band. Cool stuff.
this piece is actually Brass Roots. My school band has played both and either one is a smash hit with crowds. each year we have gotten gold at the national level for one piece or the other
I'm loving that bass harness!
Agreed TWBaltz. I definitely prefer the G bugles. Today's corps lost something with the switch to Bb (well..... the amplified commentary doesn't help either).
And yeah, these guys were amazing.
no problem.
i honestly don't know what year. maybe around 84-88. i just got this video from bob franklin, the trumpet player doing the first solo.
i just love this song, the original, and every version of it. I play this in my jazz band (drummer) and i feel like im flying when i play it. i hate how people are walking by, not even caring about this genius of a band. There is a really tight groove thats not found in alot of bands like this.
which version of when you wish? future corps have their version of it by i don't have it. you can search here in youtube. i'm sure you'll find it
Started I believe all dci corps now play on Bbs. Pioneer was the last to switch like 2 years ago.
Now DCA corps still use Bugles ( well some ) like statesmen.
do they are playing g bugles. what drum corps used to play before switching to the Bb trumpet
@SNSKreationz
You're welcome. I don't recall seeing saxophones, but it's possible. I think it was 2005 or 2007 that I saw them. Can't remember. I got the impression that it was actually the Tomorrowland band just with different uniforms and marching in the parade. If they had saxophones as well, it could have been the sax quartet/quintet joining them.
Disney has been cutting entertainment groups. Not sure if they're still there. Voices got cut down to 8 singers at Epcot.
wasnt it dave stahl, or chase?
i think it´s a bit to fast,or am ia wrong?
Do you think you could get a recording of When You Wish Upon a Star? My Band has a gig at Disney Land and my Director said I could pick the song if I could get the info. All I need is a sample.
i havent been to epcot....
but im pretty sure its either magic kingdom or islands of adventure/universal has a band like this too. i was there is 1999 and 2001. anyone else know what im talking about?
from what i remembered they were wearing red
Metalfreak63, umm...... Brass Roots??? I checked a few videos with Brass Roots and it sounds nothing like this.
Fantastic band
They worked their asses off the entire time they were employed.
nice visors...
nice pants...
thats the same thing i saw back in 2001 im sure. they had saxophones im sure. and i am positive they had a bass drummer. ill look into that because i really wanna see them again on my next visit :)
thx
Let me know when it's posted.
Older than I thought then. I figured it was no older than 1991 like the others. Didn't think 3-valves were in use as far back as '87.
we played this and i thought that we sounded pretty good, but these guys are playing up tempo and cleaner than we ever did
o really? how come i don't see any video of you playing trumpet on your videos?
Awesome! I think they sound very good for the size for the group. I'm a drummer and played this at my high school's music talent show in the jazz ensemble...so much fun to play. when was this filmed?
so do basically all bands inprov the 2 nd solo?
@kmabru and the G bugle is much harder to play then the standard Bb trumpet
Great peace of music!
no no thats my brother who made the comment, thats my channel and he doesnt make any videos but he is good
Does anyone else notice that the Bass Drummer is marching Trip Bass Drums?! HOLY WTF?!
Wow, on G bugles... Kinda wish i could of seen this live..
Are those TRIPLE-stacked bass drums?
Jesus.
I'm a "the note" able junior :P. I'm not the lead, so I don't have it, but our lead is also a "the note" hitting junior.
hahaha very well said kmabru. those people have no idea who The Future Corps is.
I need The Future Corps' one. I've been searchimg RUclips everyday. Futurecorpsfan closed his account and his MySpace page and he had multiple recordings. Thanks though.
ah, but you didn't specify what instrument, my friend
dude, the 3-valved trumpet is older than the jazz age
we do too and our junior can hit higher than "the note"
Three bass drums on on harness!?
I played this in high school
I just love these comments that they're not that good..... Especially when the poster says they can do better, but don't post anything to back it up. I'm still waiting to see something from m4dclaw.........
And as has been said before, these aren't trumpets. They're using G bugles.
Oh and BTW..... your brother really shouldn't be posting under your account. Let him make his own account.
@RJm8488 Agreed, a great arrangement and performance of this piece. Heard this thing mangled horribly by countless HS groups....
Make no mistake these guys are all great, but for me... anyone besides Maynard himself playing this song just seems to fall short. Great effort though!
I have a version of future corps doing this where he takes it as high as maynard does...if not higher
correction. I was thinking balistic brass. this one is brass machine lol
m4dclaw, they're not good?! You're kidding, right? I guess you can do better.
I don't know what you see wrong with the tempo. I just listened to a number of Brass Machine videos..... All but one seemed too slow. That one sounded like a studio recording. It was David Stahl. The tempo was almost the same as this.
FYI.... those are G bugles so they're not trumpets. They're sopranos. But I'm just nitpicking.
Exactly timpanista. They have no idea who the guys are, where they're from or what drum corps used to be.
If anyone says it's not good, I wonder if they can do better. If they say they can, I want to see proof.. and not just on a trumpet. Let's see them do it on a G bugle.
The videos are great but don't do the group justice. First saw them in 1990. When I rounded the corner, I was amazed at the sound of just three drummers and 10 horns (missing 1 contra). Was expecting a bigger group.
Oh yeah, and outside under the Central Florida sun.
Maynard NEVER played this. The original that everyone knows was The Army Blues big band.
those are G bugles
sorry lol I was thinking balistic brass when I made that comment
I'm pretty sure Maynard never played this. There's a recording of it floating around online that reference Maynard, but it's really the Army Band with Dave Deitweiller soloing. If anyone knows of an actual Maynard recording, please post a link. Here's the mislabeled one. I started listening to Maynard in 1973. That is definitely not his tone or style. ruclips.net/video/dPh-sY32kSA/видео.html
this mens are beast of trumpet! it's normally impossible to play like that!
u'll see - i'll poste a vid!
it's pretty much same tempo as maynard ferguson's version.
definately like dave stahl's "Scream Machine" better
Maynard Ferguson plays this two octives higher than this.you should listen to it..
So that's where DeSantis got those boots!
m4dclaw, Travel to Germany just to see you prove it........ Not gonna happen. Why not post a video?
its the future haha
i thin he was just having a bad day
Just sent you a private message.
@gamesharks8912 If you were really good, you wouldn't have felt a need to put down other trumpet players.
no i'm not kidding - come to germany and i'll show you, that i can do it better!
not realy - the aren't good... the song doesn't "groove" in this tempo.. and the trumpets are somehow bad..
umad
omg, too fast... MUCH too fast!
these guys are not that good... and I am a trumpet player..