I was thinking the whole time, why design a new submachine gun when the world had a huge surplus of WW2 weapons? Like opening a new expensive restaurant during a recession... It just doesn't make any sense.
East Germany did for maybe 10 or 15 years after the war. After that they mostly used Soviet designed weapons. Using captured weapons is a third world military thing most of the time. It just doesn't happen.
Wow I've been hoping to see one of these come up in a video for nearly 15 years now, ever since I first discovered that Luxembourg manufactured an smg.
At 04:25 the cutaway seems to to show two sears like Walther MPL or Star Z70 and a kind of "trigger inside the trigger". I would love to see its internals. "Military Small Arms of the 20th Century" book didn't describe most lockworks.
"They first tried improving/copying the sten gun,but that didnt work so they threw that out the window and came up with a whole new gun".... That bolt looks oddly similar to a sten gun bolt ..
It seems like I found out where most of design ideas for the Feather Industries AT-9 came from. The AT-9 is a great little take down PCC that was great way before the PPC was all that popular.
I thought the exact same thing the moment I saw it. If you think about, if someone wanted to make a basic openbolt SMG as simply as possible, no surprise if a few people come up with very similar ideas.
After World War II yes the firearms market especially the domestic American items marked of military hand me downs was oversaturated Lil Dan Mark made the Madsen bolt action 3006 And sold it to Columbia I think nice rifle adapt very well for civilian use And the French had a semi automatic box magazine open top bolt rifle that’s Saw little use Many of these were sold decades later on the civilian US market
Eh, the Thompson was also expensive, relatively heavy, wasn't easy to fire accurately, and had a lot of jamming/feeding issues. So while it might be a fun gun for an individual person. It wasn't a particularly good gun at scale, especially for the troops that had to haul this heavy SMG around. Which is why it ended up getting replaced by the cheaper grease gun.
Other than the large muzzle flash, concussion, lack of controllability on full auto, loss of velocity, weight of the ammo, and the recoil from rifle rounds from short barreled rifles. I can keep going as to why a short barreled rifle is no where near as good as a pistol caliber submachine gun. Jump on a full auto H&K G3 and then give an mp5 a try. Or even compare a Vector v53 5.56 that is the same size as an mp5 9mm fullsize and compare the two of those. Rifle rounds out of compact guns arent a very good combination. When it comes to small SMG pattern firearms pistol calibers are best.
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I was thinking the whole time, why design a new submachine gun when the world had a huge surplus of WW2 weapons? Like opening a new expensive restaurant during a recession... It just doesn't make any sense.
East Germany did for maybe 10 or 15 years after the war. After that they mostly used Soviet designed weapons. Using captured weapons is a third world military thing most of the time. It just doesn't happen.
Thank you!
Looking at that trigger one of them cheated on the other with a Glock.
police used mp40s till 70s
A skimpy grease gun
Surprised I haven't seen Ian McCullem do a video about this on Forgotten Weapons.
Definitely fits the bill👍😉
Wow I've been hoping to see one of these come up in a video for nearly 15 years now, ever since I first discovered that Luxembourg manufactured an smg.
It might just be me, but it looks like an MP40 and a Grease Guns got together and had a kid.
the Luty
It is just you and 90 others… here is a thumbs down btw
Thank you for sharing such a unique SMG
Greetings from Luxembourg!🇱🇺
A real Fire Breather.
At 04:25 the cutaway seems to to show two sears like Walther MPL or Star Z70 and a kind of "trigger inside the trigger". I would love to see its internals.
"Military Small Arms of the 20th Century" book didn't describe most lockworks.
This is what shooting sport is all about. Cool, fascinating history related in a totally approachable way. Brilliant stuff!
With a wood stock it'd make a fine militia and home defense gun for people who don't like pistols. But my favorite smg will always the berretta m38/49
"They first tried improving/copying the sten gun,but that didnt work so they threw that out the window and came up with a whole new gun"....
That bolt looks oddly similar to a sten gun bolt ..
those flames coming out of the ejection port would be a major distraction.....
Eh.. no big deal
You wouldn’t see it moron, you only see it in slow motion.
suppressor 😊
Beautifully made for an inexpensive open bolt SMG!-John in Texas
As a study in simplicity, I'd love to see this compared and tested against the Brazilian Uru
‘Similar to an mp40’
Dude, it literally looks like they just copied the Grease Gun. Hell I thought it WAS the grease gun.
You weren't the only one with that thought. New improved version what was my thought. And they went with MP40 mags like that was better?
Yes 9mm magazines were better than .45 magazines for this 9mm submachine gun 😄👍
To me this thing reeks of the Smith and Wesson M76
"Okay so basically I'm both a STEN, a Grease gun and an MP40"
Both is two not three
That's Man Bear Pig.
It seems like I found out where most of design ideas for the Feather Industries AT-9 came from. The AT-9 is a great little take down PCC that was great way before the PPC was all that popular.
Yah fascinating when FLAMES shoot out of the ejection port....
Mark Serbu, "neva been done befo part 2", is doing something like this
Wrong guy but funny comment all the same.
I thought the exact same thing the moment I saw it.
If you think about, if someone wanted to make a basic openbolt SMG as simply as possible, no surprise if a few people come up with very similar ideas.
This submachine gun appearance looks like it was design in a HS🏨 Senior class assignment back in the 1950s.
Ok, so how did it get its owner in trouble? They said it did in the first few minutes....
I know they left that part out, false advertising!
No they didnt. It got used by african decolonisation movements and got bad press because of that.
Interesting, I thought Luxembourg used the Uzi. Never heard of this smg
"sola lege" is still sten /bergman origin as mp3008 was but more refined .
1:54 Société Luxembourgeoise d'Armes
Grand !
Is that custom smg from rust
My grandpa had one for years I thought it was a modified sten ...
That looks more like an M3 Submachinegun than the Belgian Vigneron SMG.
Seems like a sweet little weapon. I bet you can find some cheap in Africa. 😎
They should have gone for telescope bolt
Cool
After World War II yes the firearms market especially the domestic American items marked of military hand me downs was oversaturated
Lil Dan Mark made the Madsen bolt action 3006 And sold it to Columbia I think nice rifle adapt very well for civilian use
And the French had a semi automatic box magazine open top bolt rifle that’s Saw little use
Many of these were sold decades later on the civilian US market
Looks like M3 Grease！！！
How German is modern Luxembourg?
i'm from Luxembourg and it's no german at all :)
The german is very close, luxemburgish is a 'mosel-fränkisch' Dialect.
And because of the hughes amendment we can't buy any clones of these and all remaining examples would be exorbitantly expensive.
Be nice to have one
the Thompson machine gun is a whole lot better gun my thought
Well if we're going to go there. May I suggest the Lancaster, Gustav 45, Sonoma, to name a few.
Eh, the Thompson was also expensive, relatively heavy, wasn't easy to fire accurately, and had a lot of jamming/feeding issues. So while it might be a fun gun for an individual person. It wasn't a particularly good gun at scale, especially for the troops that had to haul this heavy SMG around. Which is why it ended up getting replaced by the cheaper grease gun.
The Sola powered African decolonisation program killed the sales of this Independence freedom provider
It looks like the automag paintball gun but uses bullets not paintballs.
mp0:40
SOLA Super = M3.
Luxemburgers 🍔
This is basically a rip off of a Grease gun.
Submachine guns were the biggest firearm fail. Yeah, we love them...but a compact rifle can do everything they can, only better.
Other than the large muzzle flash, concussion, lack of controllability on full auto, loss of velocity, weight of the ammo, and the recoil from rifle rounds from short barreled rifles. I can keep going as to why a short barreled rifle is no where near as good as a pistol caliber submachine gun. Jump on a full auto H&K G3 and then give an mp5 a try. Or even compare a Vector v53 5.56 that is the same size as an mp5 9mm fullsize and compare the two of those. Rifle rounds out of compact guns arent a very good combination. When it comes to small SMG pattern firearms pistol calibers are best.
Absolutely not, it’s depend on your usage.