Caleb and Sophia learn creationism
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024
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Hello. I love your videos. Ive been looking for videos that discuss the scandals of the bible. Wondering if you have a video. Im looking through your channel now. If you don't, i think that would be an awesome video
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Video was good despite some inaccuracy. I won't bother to bring up the stuff about the name issues, but you definitely have the wrong view about the JWs and the NAZIs. The organization was in full support, but Hitler didn't trust the organization, but he would later come to trust the individuals themselves. They enjoyed privileges others didn't, but, that so surprising... After the war most didn't return to the organization, because they said it changed too much during the war. You see they were very antisemetic until that point. The version of events you gave are what the JWs claim, but actually go digging and you'll find out I'm right
@caitlyncarvalho7637 - That's like asking, "If Amaterasu didn't exist, where did the Japanese royal family come from?" Or, "If Helen of Troy didn't exist, where did the Greeks (Hellenes) come from?" People sometimes come to believe their ancestors include deities or mythical heroes; it's called a "legendary progenitor."
My left ear was very happy to hear about the book!
"Best Life Ever" until you need a blood transfusion, then you're F*cked
"Best life ever" until you realise that moaning in a corner with your back to the world is what door knocking for "Jehovah" makes you want to do.
Then its "best life over" 😂
Instructions unclear, made a delicious three course meal for Jehovah and he didn't show up
you're not praying to him enough!!!!
I'll come over if you don't mind. lol
🥲
He's so mean :(
Did you make the meal with virgin flesh? The Sleeper in Darkness (the one true “god”) absolutely loves virgin sacrifices!
im currently writing a novel where a character believes himself to be God, that he was born in this world for a purpose and thus will do anything to achieve his goals, committing atroocities for those who don't believe in his will. After his conquering and he becomes a tyrant he looks back and sees himself as a pure holy thing but everyone else sees him as a monster. Personally I find the idea that with "divine purpose" as dangerous it gives people a self rightous attitude to what they're entitiled to.
Can’t wait to see it
I think the joke is that it’s the Bible he’s talking about lol. Ether this is a really good joke or I’m reading to much into it. 😂 Ether way it’s brilliant
Sounds like it's based on trump....
Sounds good. I'm an author and playwright, my Kingdom Series took inspiration from the Jehovahs Witnesses when I created the cult in the first few books (I'm very proud to say I've had a few emails from former JWs who found the books very helpful to their exodus)
Tyrants always, always think they're the good guys. Especially ones of a religious persuasion. On a small level, Charles Taze Russel should have been humble enough to realise that he wasn't chosen by God once his first prediction failed, but instead he made it "spiritual" so that it was from then unverifiable.
But very few monsters think they're monsters. Which is why all of us have to be cautious. "Divine purpose" is ridiculously dangerous if it takes you away from the simple purpose of service to others, feeding the sick, helping the poor. All the major cult leaders saw the wrong done in churches so felt they were called to start again and put things right. Funny how they all felt God was raising them up to greatness when Jesus Himself called people to humble themselves and serve people.
People are very, very good and convincing themselves that they're the protagonist in a story. We all do this to some extent. The more self-righteous we are, the easier it is for us to believe anyone opposing us is not only wrong, but evil. And evil people can be removed without qualms.
Your novel sounds like is has a great premise, I hope it develops well. Human beings are easily susceptible to what you describe.
Trump 2024!!! 8 more years!!!! @@amorphousalienblob
How does an animation from 9 years ago look better than their current art style?
Hopefully the good animators left the religion and got jobs with actual animation companies
@@katyungodly Hopefully
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@@katyungodly Hopefully
How do a group of window cleaners and janitors have quality animators on the side?
I was an adult when I asked my ex-JW mom for a book on human evolution and she gives me this JW "Blue book on evolution". I read it and quickly realized that it was filled with bullcrap and I got so angry with my mom😂 I yelled at her asking why she would give me this effing bullcrap to read😂
If you were an adult, why would you ask her if you wanted to learn about evolution?
They also quote mine evolutionary biologists, it's so dishonest
@@embrikchloraker8186To be fair, my mom owns more informational books than I do
@@embrikchloraker8186Because why buy new books if people you know already have some?
Even if Jehovah was real, why would anyone want to live in a world where you have to revolve your entire life on a god/king? It’s a sad existence.
This is exactly what I am pondering for so long. It is your life, not nobody else's.
@@RayCamacho-m2e 🙌💯
Imagine you create a computer game with incredible AI that believe they are real, how boring would it be if, for EVERY decision, they believed that they had to ask you what you thought and wanted?
This cult (like all cults) is simply insane.
Because it makes Jehovah's "Holy Spirit" hard.
They are pretty good at doing it now
Dad: Imagine if you invited all your friends over.
Caleb: I don't have any friends.
CRAAAAAAWLING IIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIN!
Yeah cuz they can only be friends with other JWs or people they want to indoctrinate into the cult.
5:15 notice the dad has an embarrassed look when he sees hes holding a pen with a purple butterfly
Cult of fragile masculinity 💀
Bros masculinity is weaker than an actual butterflie 👁👃👁
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The library? That’s the spanking room- where children who are too noisy in the hall- because spanking makes children quiet.
"You can't fix sister Elsa when she is 'broken' /hurt"
WHAT?
God can't even protect and fix ppl in his OWN house?
Sounds like a weakness
If a docter would say "sorry , can't help you getting better " he would have no patients left
But the 'all-knowing' 'all powerfull' 'master /creator of the universe' even removing a splinter is 'too much work' but unlike the docter, he keeps his patients and they keep praizing him /s
Not every patient can be helped unfortunately
But the fact that god himself can't do it is just pathetic
This may be irrelevant, but I really like the tattoo on your arm that says, "Unbreakable." You truly are unbreakable. None of that cult's manipulations couldn't break you. On the contrary, you became a strong person who dares to comment on JW's true nature, warn people not to get in there, and encourage people who are already there to leave. Keep up the great work, Owen Morgan the Unbreakable!
If the story was presented as make believe it would be fine.
As non fiction it is a lie that interferes with the child's understanding of reality.
That is abuse.
The cat in the background looks adorable and confy.
I love when his pretty kitty babies make an appearance! I think the one cuddled up in this video is called Cashmere ❤😻
ommmgggg im trying so hard to find the kitty throughout the video 🥺 i mightve seen a kitty on the couch behind him, but covered by his mic stand, during the bit where he talks about his book but i cant tell for sure if thats a kitty
edit: 1:58 KITTY LOCATED!!!!!
Cats make everything better.
Quick thing about YHWH: we don't know exactly what the vowels were in the Tetragrammaton, so "Yahweh" is only an educated guess.
Indeed, modern research indicates it was most likely pronounced YooHuaWeeHeia.
Yoohoo!
14:35 MOM!!!! Caleb's Hallucinating again!
Okay, Candace! Whatever you say...😅
Gods' final message to his creation was "We're sorry for the inconvenience."
21:49
Caleb's friends must have really been partying hard to make the whole house jump 20 feet off the ground.
🧸my mother tried to pull the stunt to put my little son those sophia and caleb cartoons behind my back, knowing I didn't. Allow it, my boy stopped liking to be mext to her because she was forcing him 😢 and obviously I stoped leaving him even for a moment with her, it breaks my heart that she changed overtime and she became a stranger person... This religion in my personal experience transataded to absolute doom in division. J Ws break families.
I tought my son since he was very small ,to not believe in those mentally-ill way of thought .
Merch idea: something that parodies the JW phrase and make it "BEST LIE EVER!"
Jehovah's Witless
It's a little awkward the dad compares Elsa to a toy. lol
It must be in purpose. The dad does not Talk about sister Elsa's feelings on getting hurt. He talks about JEHOVAS feelings. Sister Elsa's life only Matters because she belongs to Jehova. Its so messed up. She has no value in her own.
He sees her as a sex toy
Owen dropping my fave type of video every time I need em most lets goooo
Being an ex jw feels dystopian sometimes I swear
"in a future episode, she dies" "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time. I'm explaining to you, because you looked nervous... because we can stop now if you want."
24:15 Describing the library in the Kingdom Hall reminded me of the Nursery in my church growing up. It had a window to see into the chapel and also a speaker for the PA system so anyone in there could still hear the sermon. It was a small room with a crib and some toys, a couple of chairs and a small table. It was designed specifically for moms with babies or small children and it was used for my Sunday School class (which consisted of me, my sister and my cousin lol).
The basement of the church had a full kitchen and dining room, though. Always thought that was cool.
Sounds a lot like the church I went to when I was younger.
The food thing reads to me more like 'would you want a canned answer or a fresh answer that comes from the heart' which sounds like an injunction _against_ preparing, or at least to prepare lightly without using the Watchtower's pre-made answers.
Coming from a baptist upbringing I find that q and a section really interesting, it seems like they’re just being told what to ask, really interesting how there’s different indoctrination depending on the denomination. We would do 3 or 4 songs at 10 and then prayer requests, hand shaking to make everyone feel welcome, and then the next fourty minutes or so would be straight preaching, after that we’d do the same thing again after a ten minute break with a different sermon and songs
I always love when you touch on these videos. I really got into watching you every day about a year ago when I started watching through your older videos
Just think the animators would be like if they were not involved with this propaganda
I know. I doubt they're even getting paid for these
I highly recommend you read ,,Origin of the Species by Charles Darwin 1859 ,it exposes the Adam and Eve myth ,that topples the house of cards we call the Bible. Charles Darwin 1809 to 1882 the greatest biologist that ever existed.
I'm not saying you're wrong about Adam and Eve, but science can't prove the existence of God, which means it can't disprove God's existence either.
As a Christian, I keep asking other Christians, "other than 3 chapters from the Bible, who says God didn't create the universe in exactly the way science keeps proving?" Their answer is simply, the Bible, and it pi$$es me off to no end! Seriously, isn't the big bang, and the universe dancing its way to how it currently is, way more creative than, "I told it to exist, and there it is!"?
So yeah, I think the Adam and Eve story is either a one off event that happened separate from, but concurrent with what we know to be true of evolution, or it's a creation myth designed to tell the story of a loving God who made sentient humans for relationship rather than as slave labor, like a lot of other creation myths tell.
Also, I wouldn't say Darwin was THE greatest, but definitely one of the greatest, and easily the most noteworthy. I seriously believe that because of the church being so oppressive towards science, there are a lot of other truly, just as great biologists who we will never get to hear about, including several Muslim biologists who conservative white nationalist Americans deemed as terrorists.
When you’re talking about a person, you say who, not that. Charles Darwin wasn’t the greatest biologist who ever lived. What a silly comment. You don’t need to read The Origin of Species to know that the bible is mythology.
@@ckEagle165 indeed the god hypotheses is null and void
Exposes?
7:04 I thought my right airpod had gave up on me lol
Same, my left earphones stopped working today so I just assumed the right one was gone too
Caleb ,,No running through Watchtower,s real estate !,,
L'assicurazione non ripaga Elsa
I was wondering.. could you like show what JW kids are taught in their home schooling things? I've always been curious
I love that Mom spent all that time meal prepping and cooking at the stove, but when the food was presented they played a microwave *ding*. 😅😅😅
I love your vids from time to time. I binge watch them for 2-3 days rediscover you a few months later and rinse and repeat this since a few years I think. Your vids are really informational and entertaining! Keep up the good work!
you HAVE to read the hitchhiker’s guide Owen!!! It’s one of my favorite books like ever.
Oh, H2G2 is a "read it multiple times" level good book.
I have read it in german many years ago, I think I should read it in english!
7:45 Oh no! Caleb gets self-conscious again! Well - keep there boy, one day you will quit that madhouse!
100 % certified cope, Caleb is a lifer for sure
hey Owen! I just wanted to say that I'll buy your book as soon as it's on audible!
🎶turn the other cheek, turn the other cheek. Show em just how strong you are by really acting meek.🎶
Nope
If I made an empty warehouse with a few Willy Wonka props I'd get called a scam artist, but god can make the universe with unimaginable vastness and only one planet with life and gets called a genius.
You referred the SCAM OF THE YEAR.
Joseph was swoll. And white. Odd for a middle eastern man. I would've assume he'd be brown not white
No, lots of white people historically lived in that area of the middle east. Maybe you meant to ask why he wasn't more tanned?
If my kids get forced into watching this thing by Jehovah’s nut jobs (my personal nickname) i’m gonna tell them the heroes and villains and the heroes and villains are reversed in that show
are you having a stroke, and also having a stroke?
The kids are the protagonists
21:30 Now THAT’S how you foreshadow someone’s death 😂😂😂
I still struggle to understand why people choose belief systems like Creationism over what’s real?
Most people don't actually understand the science. They hear "the universe exploded from the singularity, an extremely hot dense point where the building materials all were held in, which appears to be nothing until its something" and interpret it as "the universe came from nothing hur dur dur".
Coz they struggle in live and it's much easier when someone else tells them what to think and do
It was interesting seeing your takes again since these videos are how I think I originally stumbled on your channel ❤
It's funny that the megaten games use the accurate name for YhWh and other translation, but not Jehovah
Plus the Megaten games are fun but difficult. Plus I love the different types of mythical creatures/ demons/gods in the series.
You got it a bit wrong. In Germanic languages, the Y turned into a J because according to their rules of pronunciation, J followed by a vowel is pronounced like Y, not the other way around (e.g. Jagermeister).
I love your cat in the background so much!! ❤he looks just like my kitty haha
The other day I was with my friend, and I saw Jehovah's Witnesses with their magazines.
that's crazy because in the congregation i grew up in, they're new earth creationists. my father was busy trying to convince me on how the earth is less than 10 thousand years old and radiometric dating is just a myth. he's an elder in their congregation by the way
Does he believe the earth is flat as well 😭
I cannot understand how people believe that ._.
@abiliv-lf9tz ohh no. At least he's not a flat earthen. He just denies the existence of anything older (or existed) than like 10k years, I.e dinosaurs
Why did the mom cut onions but the finished meal doesn’t look like it has onions 😮
she cut the onions for me,i like onions so the finished meal has no onion cuz i ate them onions are deliosuis
Delivery for Shrek
Owen, def read hitchhikers guide it's amazing
Always love these videos.
*Imagines everyone power walking out of the Kingdom Hall as it's on fire*
Congrats on your book Owen! I am looking forward to reading it!:)
F*ck me those Sunday meetings were the absolute worst. Soooooooo boring. And depending on the time of year we might have to get up early to go to it. Not to mention the day before having to get up early on Saturday and not watch cartoons but go and piss people off by knocking on their days the whole time being terrified to run into any of my classmates. I knew I was in a cult around the age of 7/8 and was so embarrassed.
We were given a "personal invitation" today from JW's at our door. Two meetings called, the resurrection - victory over death and the memorial of Jesus', keep doing this in remembrance of me. 😑 Oh and they handed the envelope to my autistic daughter. I'm actually surprised she didn't hiss at them lol but she took the envelope and closed the door on them.
nice video as always! although for some reason the sponsor was only in the left ear
Ah finally someone else mentions this. I thought my headphones broke
I love those points where sophia looks like she’s being held at gunpoint and wants to leave
Great video! ( I always enjoy the Caleb and Sophia stuff.) I would just like to make one small correction: The tetragrammaton is actually pronounced as YaHooWeeH.
5:15 wait...this organisation is really called "watchtower"?? I have always thought people called it like that to mock them💀
This is by far your least necessary thumbnail caption. Like, of course they do?
But excellent work as always ❤
about the "pity person" you were describing - i've experienced that exact same thing in a few of my college classes, but more specifically, last week my entire undergraduate studies class of about 18 (well, about 11 actually showed up) got kicked out and sent home for the day because no one was prepared to endure yet another socratic seminar about an extremely niche topic. the frustrating part was that i'm pretty sure someone was about to do the classic "pity answer" but the professor wasn't having it since less than half the people that showed up had hard copies of a 10-page reading that apparently we had to print out and fully annotate. i've never been a part of JW or any major religious organization in general, but i kinda related to that point.
I know this is coming late, but the arguments you've been making about the JW-branded stuff, Owen, lines up pretty well with the qualms I've had about Christian bookstores and the like for a long time.
Unrelated but I love your cat in the background.
4:44
You're supposed to write prayers and answers to prayers in your prayers journal. It's how some people strengthen their belief in God. I've done it too. But I haven't been asking as much lately, and have been studying and practicing Buddhism too, so in the most recent prayer journal I bought, I've been just reading the Bible verses on each page in their context in my Bible and writing my thoughts on the topics.
20:37 they literally made a rip off of the music from cars too lmfao
I am Catholic and I had religion as a school subject in class, tought by sister Angela (nun). Well, in 3rd grade some of the kids asked sister Angela how it is possible that the Bible says about God creating world in 7 days, Adam's rib etc. and in biology class teacher said about the apes, Big Bang etc. Sister Angela explained very calmly that all of this doesn't contradict itself cause The Bible is not a historical chronicle, rather a word of God and also a book written very long time ago, in another culture, so it has lots of metaphors and symbols and we, Catholics, do not have to look at it like at a textbook about how the world begun. She also added than whatever process there was in creating a human, we believe God controlled it and made it happen. It was kinda natural to me for years, and still is, that the Bible and science are not contradictions, especially when I found out that some famous scientists like Lemaitre or Mendel were Catholic priests. I was in shock when I've heard people in America actually think the Biblical story of creation is an actual historical fact and they have problems with science class facts. I am really glad I was raised in Europe 😂
Surprised to hear they had encyclopaedia sets. I thought they're against education??
Pity person? I think in school that's called the "teacher's pet." Or, in other words, "me."
When I was a kid doing talks the conductor would set a timer for the talks. If someone went over time they would just let the timer keep going off until they got off the stage 😂 so cringy
Wait a minute, the canned food is also prepared (in the factory) and home cooked food can be improvised from what you have at home. Could the argumentation get any more cheap?
I think you were trying to say that the puddle would have existed in any hole. There was nothing special about the hole.
10:10 it's like when pokemon fan games say "oh my arceus" instead of "oh my god"
Huh, the kingdom hall layout is very nice for a church. It’s like a church, community center and library rolled into one. Just missing a social club type of place, and a basketball court (I think the Mormons have those).
You should do a video reading of The Hitchhiker's Guide.
The puddle analogy comes from "The Salmon of Doubt", which was Adams' unfinished last book.
Also, you must read "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy". It's essential.
I just found you today and have been binge-watching your videos all day long. I'm deeply saddened by your experience within the Jehovah's Witness faith regarding your family; I wish your story was rare but it seems so commonplace in this maligned replica of Christianity. I'm a Christian myself, but I've never believed in cramming dogma and doctrine down anyone's and throat. I strongly feel that coming to faith is a deeply personal choice that should be made through one's own volition, an experience pure and devoid of any fear mongering and extortion which could only pervert and undermine the foundation of their faith. The song "More Like Falling in Love" by Jason Gray is a perfect example of what true Christianity should be. I can't understand anyone who claims to love God but carry an intolerant and pious attitude: the exact opposite of what Christ taught.
For what it's worth, I just wanted to say thank you for not lumping all Christians into the same category, even though we disagree. I appreciate that respect and I hope good things come your way. ❤
Am I the only one who thinks it’s weird for a kid Caleb’s age to vacuum? I thought that was too noisy for little kids. When me and my sister were kids, if someone started vacuuming we basically acted like cats, it was “cover your ears and run for the hills” lmao
I love your videos Owen. Watch them all the time Wondering why does it bother you so much about them miss naming the god if you don’t believe he exists anyway Is it just because the people back then actually worshipped Yahweh and should be recognized. And you say in this video that they are trying to prevent people from calling him by the proper name I mean if they worshipped him by the right name it would still not be true right so I was just wondering about that if you happen to see my question? Thanks .
Is that unbreakable tattoo new? It looks awesome
Why does Caleb’s dad and hair sound like the dad from the Brack show on Cartoon Network?
Very well could be the same voice actor
Dracula!!
heres the thing why is it called Jehovah's WITNESSES? like is it cause people witnessed who god was? or something else?
I think it's something like that yes.
It's from Isiah 43 :10 verse talking about being a witness for the true God
@jtc2691
That was a question on jeopardy a few weeks ago
The clue was: they are the people mentioned at isaiah 43:10, and they reject blood transfusions
Me and the contestant: who are Jehovah's Witnesses?
Ken: that's correct!
*audience applauds*
Where God Went Wrong is the first book in a trilogy by Oolon Colluphid. The other two parts of the trilogy are Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes and Who is this God Person Anyway?. Colluphid's trilogy of "philosophical blockbusters" is considered controversial but is less controversial than The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
I mean the dad is roastig the poor kid he says : YOUR FRIENDS would destroy the things in ur hause when Caleb doesnt even have friends because of his familys religion 😞
10:45 they still don't, there is no hebrew alphabet but an hebrew abjad: just like the arabic abjad there is no vowels only consonants. Just like the phenician abjad that was the basis for the hebrew abjad, the arabic abjad, the greek alphabet and the latin alphabet.
I’m so incredibly disappointed you haven’t read Hitchhikers Guide Owen. I immediately forgive you, of course, but I hope you’ll consider reading a few chapters or the entire 5/3.
1:50: JW: It is important to love one another!
Also JW: If you love someone of your own sex, Jehovah will fucking destroy you during Armageddon!
18:52: Jehovah knows exactly what you need. But you will need to beg him for it, anyway. Because it makes his holy spirit hard to hear little kids beg for what he already knows they need.
21:40: Dad: “Caleb, whose house is this?”
Me: “Yo mama’s house”
Caleb: “Jehovah’s house.”
Me: “Close enough”
29:00: Using the purple triangle as a decoration is not only painful and stupid, but also extremely disrespectful to all the Jehovah’s Witnesses who fucking died in the camps!
31:00: By having the members clean the kingdom hall, you’ll save tons of money that you can use to pay off victims of s. abuse.
Regurgitate information? Sounds like school
Years? Haven’t you released one on this show every few months?
What accent does the dad have?
I think Brazilian
Dracula!
They totally fucking ripped off the intro to Disney's "Cars," complete with a ripoff of the Sheryl Crow song "Real Gone."
Smb should review that Ministry board game at 25:23
At 7:04 your voice is only able to be heard in the left ear and honestly it hurts just to hear.
The dad sounds like the brack show dad
Omg yes! 😆 I knew he reminded me of someone from adult swim.
Wouldn’t surprise if it’s the same voice actor
Sounds like Dracula!
Is the watch tower STILL doing this ? This is painful as an EX JW
I don't know why, but I love these videos
20:31 😱🤣🤣🤣
Q: 'what's the question of life, the universe and everything'? A: '42'
I see the vowels are - יְהוָֽה (taken from Sefaria)
The 1st makes an ə sound
The second makes a kind of õ sound... like in כל (its a patah, not a horek, ith that's what's called)
יְהֹוָ֗ה -
But this is how i saw it on chabad (1st time when i saw it in hebrew in context actually) & the 1st vowel makes the sound ə the second is a horok (sorry if i mistake or misspell the mark name, but it makes the sound o, n the 3rd is the patah (sorry if agn i misspel, & it makes a kind of o sound but not the same kind of o...
Tho how it is presented in the most ancient scroll idk/dont remember...
The sefaria one (where i read, directly from search) seems like has put the tetragramation marks as a random, but on the chabad its like its from there... anws it doesnt has the vowels in same order as in adonai - a o a i ? Would be?? So ... totally, cant even pronounce... where you got that info from anws? Just asking...
Anws interesting materials..
I had a mate from that religion 😂 we kinda bullied her in the start but then got to get along w her (even if not all the times..) still to this day i remember the 1st history lessons on primitive ppl... i was sitting w her on the last desk & she started to kinda bug my head w : oh we dont believe in that cs x y z (totally disregarding foundings like Lucy the humanoid ape, dont remember well, an astrolopatus or how s it, &* the fsct that we have rebutary organs like those molars (mind teeth is it? & the apendix... or the way the fetus evolves in the mothers womb put that paralleled w the evolution narative story & other comparative proofs of which i read from an old biology book...
- back then i was a Darwinist, at least so i called msf, idk how i got interested into religion - ith it had to do w the mood swings during pandemic...
Poor little Caleb seems to spend a great deal of time doing what Harry Potter fans would call muggle-style cleaning.
I find it irksome that the Caleb and Sophia videos try to present cleaning as fun, with happy music and a satisfied look at the end, or they try to present cramming for a meeting test as being like getting a nice meal (although that meal didn't actually do it for me, but, whatevs). Or there's Caleb's happy fantasy of winning a race, with music, whereas, in reality, after sitting for an hour or two in a Kingdom Hall, your body must be screaming to move.
It’s sadistic to make people sit on wooden benches for hours. What does religion have against comfortable seating?
@@rootfish2671: Or heating in winter or ventilation in summer?