BABY STAY Uncovers SKZ LORE + FIRST REACTIONS || Mixtape: On Track, B Me, Mixtape: Oh, The View M/V
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- This is my BABY STAY's Guide to the SKZ LORE from a BABY STAY'S POV, because I am also learning it as we go! This video includes my first time reacting to Mixtape: On Track, B Me, Mixtape: Oh, The View music videos! (This isn't a perfect deep dive because it's my first watch, but I think as we learn more I will get more of an idea of whats going on! So please be gentle in the comments) THIS MIGHT BE A PART 1
#skz #lore #deepdive #babystay #straykids #megaverse #multiverse #skzuniverse
Thank you ArbitraryNaratives for giving me this list of video in order!
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Watch the videos with me:
To avoid spoilers watch this OG first: • Stray Kids ＜樂-STAR＞ SK...
Then my reaction to it (if you'd like): • WHERE'S YONGBOK!? || R...
Mixtape: On Track M/V: • Stray Kids "바보라도 알아(Mi...
UNVEIL : TRACK B Me M/V: • Stray Kids ＜IN生＞ UNVEI...
Mixtape: Oh M/V: • Stray Kids "애(Mixtape ...
The View M/V: • Stray Kids "The View" ...
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"Lee Know looking at a girl is wild to me" BUT MOOD
He’s a great actor thats for sure
"We're here for lore" the most relatable thing ever. I've tried to catch up on the lore but their beauty distracts me.
From what I've read from STAY's theorists, in every universe each one has a part to play. Like Felix is always the glitch in the machine, I.N knows about the other kids' versions, Han knows they've been watched all the time, Hyunjin just feels like something is weird in each universe (also he's a very different character in each universe), Chan seems to know everything and is the one guiding the kids (and sometimes also the one finding them when they stray too far)
Also... Bang Chan'd probably already seen your reactions. It's known STAY fact that Chan is always watching what we do.
Chan is always watching... he is everywhere. He knows all. Facts. 😂😭😳
Also, I've noticed in the skzflix scene where Felix gives Jeongin the coffee milk he calls him I.N instead of Jeongin ... they were all using their real names, not their stage names except this one time. It feels significant but I don't know why yet
27:16 "영화공모전 출품신청서" means Film Contest Application
I'm guessing Han burns it because the movie doesn't get made/finished in this timeline due to Minho/Hyunjin's falling out
I just wanna say thank you for making these videos bc I don't have any friends that are into Kpop and I love seeing other people get excited and talk about things I am also excited/want to talk about ❤
All those past interconnected mv tied up in this short film gives me a rewriting of a new history vibe wherein Felix wishes that all past hurts and separation they went through vanishes away and so they could start anew. (Felix was the one who blew the candle in Mixtape: Oh. He also reads there a book about dreams do come true to those who truly believes it).
Clearly in this flix they do not know each other quite well, seems like they were budding friends or being introduced with again, hence Hyunjin watching Han's application and Chan's meeting the writer and director. Felix character was not meant to stay in this parallel universe or reality cos he was just there to begin with to bridge the distance of his friends who are at a lost in his current world. But then Minho remembered "the Yongbok" from another universe so he went back to where they first met to get "this Yongbok" who actually doesn't know them yet and has not been their friend yet to again form a friendship and stay together this time around in this universe where they could have a different, happier ending this time. Do I make sense? Oh no, sorry if I confused you. 😅
As of 1:00:18 I genuinely think I may have cracked SKZ lore and it is SO MUCH BIGGER than we realize! They have been playing the LONG game and there are more videos involved and content that we've all been missing. Megaverse is extremely relevant!!! I am genuinely about to write an essay about this!
share a link to the essay then or something cause I'll need it ;-;
@@shuporangporang.linoss once I have one I will, but it's gonna be a while. I'm genuinely considering revisiting Tumblr and starting a blog to track my stuff as I research. Right now, I have what I think is a genuine throughline that connects all the way back to at least Cle: Levanter (if not before) but I need to watch a bunch of content and look into IRL timelines more to see if it actually makes sense.
Right now this is my working theory: I genuinely believe that this all started as a way for them to process losing Woojin as a member, wanting to change the past, and then almost losing Hyunjin later on (possibly even the initial cuts of Lee Know and Felix). It could potentially explain the focus on Hyunjin and Lee Know as main characters in the conflict within the story with Felix and IN as alternates (obviously they couldn't feature Woojin so a 4th member needed to play the 4th loss).
At first glance the IRL timeline matches up really closely with the relevant video releases (which I think there may be more than what Laurel watched in this video- I've seen that Ex may also be connected to the SKZFLIX multiverse and I want to check for videography/cinematography similarities across other videos that may be connected). I'm also pretty confident that the SKZFLIX multiverse is just ONE of many that all connect back to what we now know they call The Megaverse. It would also explain why there are similar videography/cinematography themes that carry across series of MVs and videos where the similar lighting/filters/color grading reflects different multiverses. Ateez uses distinctive outfits to differentiate theirs so who's to say SKZ isn't using a similar tactic.
I think their concept started as a single alternate universe but as their career progressed, they created more multi and mini verses to process what they were going through while expanding what makes up The Megaverse. Now that they have enough reach, influence, and money they can afford to lean into it a bit more and "break the 4th wall" to show us the future they "gave up their youth" for (and Chan said there was a lot to unpack in Social Path and I noticed that video is a direct representation of several of their known/confirmed phobias/fears/mental illnesses/and discomforts around being idols).
Like, I think ALL of their videos may have connections to others we just haven't noticed fully because they've been subtler about their lore until recently. Through this video, I noticed the direct references to the other related multiverse videos (Chan was listening to The View on his phone in the previous MV). And I know there is a Backdoor reference at the end of (I think) God's Menu. There are also obvious hints within SKZFLIX at the significance of Leave for that multiverse. And the end of Megaverse teases a probable Tablo collab in the future that will probably be relevant to that set of SKids of the Megaverse (who MAY be the same grouping from videos like Venom/Maniac/Freeze/Topline and other "criminal/dark" versions of themselves [again this requires a fair amount of checking timelines and content to see if these initial connections actually make sense]).
I'm still a Baby Stay myself (FOund SKZ in late April) so some of this may have been explored already but I haven't watched their MVs as in depth and found the lore a bit intimidating before Laurel's deep dive. Those boys are CLEVER and use their music and content to process what they're going through a lot. Not to mention they're pretty obviously neurodivergent across the board (as I also am) so I can see them getting super hyperfixated on the multiverse concept and expanding upon it (especially when you consider they're all a bunch of nerds/weebs/geeks) So once I found the thread I needed and did just a little bit of IRL timeline checking it seems to track. I already have a 3-page Google doc of brain dump that I will continue to flesh out. May genuinely write it out as a coherent essay, convert it to a PDF, and post it online when it's all done.
Hello just wanted to let you know that in the behind the scenes for be me it is mentioned that Seungmin is the one who fought with IN and Han is the one who hit Lee Know with the car.
Bookish Theories is pretty good for lore
In B Me, the paper Han is burning i think was a Singer application or some kind of audition application.
One of the coolest things about Stray Kid's music being self-produced is that each song/album is a timestamp of where they were at that point of their lives. Some insight regarding Mixtape: Oh- It was the first song/MV they released when Hyunjin returned to the group after some time where his future with the group was a question mark. The song in a way both brings both sad and joyful feelings
the paper is a short film application describing the plot of on track
I heard what he's burning is a film contest application, cementing the rift of B me being the "failed" universe for all of them, because in SKZflix he's still confident in his dream of being a director
@@Sqquidd. good looking out
@@cozythembo good looking out
54:44 Lee knows script has the Korean titel for Cover Me - 가려줘 on it. Which for me definitely means that he is from a different universe. Or that Cover me is part of this timeline. In Mixtape Oh, you could see Chan listening to the View and then the View was part of the story.
i really recommend watching the B ME behind video (it’s almost 20 minutes 😭) they clearly had SO much footage and it’s truly a mystery why they never published the MV and i’m still bitter about it
Omg?!
We're all still bigmad. There's a whole graveyard of almost M/Vs. 😭
okay random compilation of things I wanted to comment throughout this
1. The general accepted theory I've seen for On Track is Jeongin loves Hyunjin, but Hyunjin loves the girl, but the girl loves Minho (obv ppl debate whether the Jeongin/Hyunjin thing is fruity or platonic but either way it seems just as integral to the plot of the video that he is longing for Hyunjin in some way he can't have because of the love triangle thing)
2. Jisung is burning a film school application. Again, general consensus says B Me is the "bad" universe, where because of the conflict at the end of On Track, the friend group has spilt up and we see how when they are not eight, all of them are suffering in one way or another. There is the scene with them all having injuries, despite only Minho and Jeongin being actyually physically injured. I believe this is to show how they are all hurt now, even if it's not physical. (i.e. Jisung giving up on his dream of being a director, Changbin playing basketball by himself and failing etc)
3. I don't think any of them are basketball players, though Seungmin is a big Baseball guy, he even wanted to be a professional player as a child, and only turned to singing after an injury made that impossible.
4. Fun fact, Mixtape OH was the first time Hyunjin was seen in official content after his year long hiatus, so the song/video has a special place in the hearts of many Stay from that time.
5. Most ppl assume Minho wrote an apology for what happened at the end of On Track and the fight that ensued, along with leaving the year book to remind him of the good times.
6. My personal theory for the wish is that Felix wished that the fight never happened. In his mind this would look like The View where they are perfect again but in reality the only way the fight would not have happened is if the conflicts in On Track never existed. Which, for those to not exist one of the boys in the triangle could not have been there. So when his wish comes true, Minho never joined the film club, and because he wasn't with the boys he went down the "dark" version of himself from B Me while the others followed the positive track. Felix realizes that because of his wish, Minho is gone (dead?) and makes another wish to bring Minho back, but the consequence is that someone else still needs to disappear to solve the conflicts and keep the boys together, and knowing this now Felix wishes to take Minho's place and disappears, either (based on leave) wandering forever unseen by everyone, other than moments of deja vu or he's been transported back to the "bad" timeline, having taken Minho's place, living in a reality where skz will never be eight, but accepting it because he knows that his dream came true, and somewhere out there all of his friends are happy. All just theories but that makes the most sense so far to me. Its heartbreakingly tragic though haha
Really enjoyed the video, thanks for putting the time in to understand the lore (or try to cause if we're honest none of us know anything really solidly with this haha)
I love your fan-girling. I love the jokes you make. It makes it really enjoyable to watch your videos.
bro the "dreams come true to those who truly want them" in the mvs are driving me CRAZYYY
i want to know the meaning of why its in all of these
About Han spying Lee Know in SKZFLIX... if you notice, there is a lens flare/blur happening over Felix when Han sees Lee Know (which we see in the other memory like shots)... And if Han can't see Felix, but WE see LK & Felix interact, then Han sees LK alone "acting out an interaction" and thats why he thinks hes THE actor they need. 😳
just so you know 31:20 was the first time stay saw hyunjin's face since january (5 months of hiatus where the boys were't allowed to even mention his name) and hours later hyunjin changed his profile pic for him in this video, and said hi for the first time in a long time T.T
This is so deep in my memory since I became a baby stay a month before kingdom started and he went right into hiatus... 6 motnhs later he came back home with us T.T most traumatic experience after chan's room lost
Omg?!
It's HEEEERE! So glad you were able to get this finished and out as I know it was a long editing process cant wait to watch and hear your thoughts!
gosh mixtape oh is always so emotional to me 🥹 i was crying to bad when jinnie came back from hiatus and he just appeared in it 😭❤️
I had never listened to much kpop before but you officially got me into Stray Kids with your recent videos and I love it!
Welcome to Stayville! Its wild 'round here. 😂
48:45 ; Laurel.. you tried real hard. It's impossible though, you can't deny a beautiful man when you see one. ❤ he has no idea how much he is loved!
just imagine if Minho gets cast in a kdrama
26:53 I had to search it but“바보라도 알아” is “Even a fool knows”
I have been using google translate so much as I am also trying to learn Korean. It’s been really fun looking things up as I am recognizing the characters and making connections. 😊
"Even a fool knows" is the Korean name for "mixtape: on track"
Thanks for doing this... I just learned about the Lore as I am a baby stay as well and there isn't much out there about it.
I would totally support your patreon if you started one! It makes reacting a lot easier when it comes to copyright, and I like directly supporting my favorite people!
Here's my theory:
Let's say that there are 2 universes. Let's call them Universe 1 (on track, b me, oh and the view universe) and Universe 2 (skzflix). So in Universe 1 all the members were in the same club and making a film. However, the drama about the love triangle caused a riff between the members. So the group got broken up and graduated before they could solve everything. On mixtape Oh we see that everyone is reminiscing the past when they were together. I guess, Felix wishes on a cake that everyone could be together again like in the music video of The View. But the group is broken up in Universe 1 and lee know lost the chance to become an actor. So, he travels to a different universe(universe 2) where the group isn't together yet. I believe in Universe 2 they don't know each other because Felix and Lee know were wearing high school uniforms and Han and Seungmin were also wearing high school uniforms but different than Leeknow and Felix's. And it looked like the rest were in universities or something. At first, it also felt like that Leeknow didn't recognize Felix because he said "Who?" when Felix started talking to him (maybe because he is from a different universe?)
Felix helps Leeknow meet all the other members and fulfils the wish of Lee know become an actor (I guess it signifies the first candle blowing on skzflix- fulfiling a wish). Then we see that they successfully made the short film so now Felix has to go back to his original universe (universe 1). This is why he says "Now I have to go back". When he goes back to his original universe everyone forgets about him. But Leeknow remembers and goes to find Felix. After Leeknow finds Felix, I think this Felix is originally from universe 2 (or maybe from a different universe who knows) because he looks confused looking at Leeknow as if he doesn't remember him. But this time Felix is hurt so Leeknow will help him just like Felix helped Leeknow (I guess this signifies the second candle blowing on skzflix at the end.
p.s. English is not my first language so, I hope I made sense. And please ignore any mistakes.
p.s. 2: I also do not know how multiverses work so all of these were just my interpretations.
18:49 That is that scene in Skzflix. In "On Track", Lee Know wants to take hand, but Hyunjin takes it instead. In SKZFLIX, it looks like Lee Know takes Felix' hand, but other guys see that he takes I.N. hand instead. Anyway, I'm sure it has some connection.
Skz actually has, I think its called the "Highlight Reel". Its an official vid where Chan explains like the overall lore from their debut, I Am trilogy, thru their Cle trilogy, ending at Go Live (Aka God's Menu era). Not connected to the Flix Storyline (as I'm going to call it)
Hah, you making that wattpad comment made me wonder how'd you react to their "your eyes" mv
Edit: also the Chan simping is hilariously relatable lol
omg love the fruits basket reference :') ♡
It’s my favorite!!!
I have a theory... and it's stupid... and honestly kinda obvious....
Because I originally thought that lee know remembers Felix and Hyunjin Remembers Lee know...
But now..
I think Lee know remembers Felix and Hyunjin remembers EVERYTHING... evey universe every member, even Felix... And in skz flix he Chosses to ignore Felix... and I think... Felix somehow died in the car accident and Lee know survived... and after lix died every one let go of their dreams and stopped being friends... then Felix tries to bring everyone back together so they can follow their dream even without him... but whatever he does, it doesn't work because I think they all need Felix... to follow their dreams like Felix has to STAY in a universe for them to finally make their dreams come true... but then again... I'm probably wrong...😅😂😂🥲🥲
The car in Be me that they are all sitting on as a group is the same car from the accident that you see flames coming from...the sound in the start up of skz flix of burning...don't know if just me but when Lee Know first wakes up in Skz Flix it sounds like a car door opening as he sits up???
Mixtape : OH was the first skz mixtape I had heard and I instantly knew this group was the one for me 🥹 I would’ve never thought it was apart of the lore but now that I know I love it even more. Thank you for this video Laurel,, we stays appreciate it!
Hear me out, what if the SKZ Flix/Leave Universe(s) is a new universe that was created in the aftermath of death of the multiple universes. So, this universe has a memory wipe or some kind of replacement (physical or memory) when someone dies in any of these other universes. In Leave, we see all the boys who supposedly don’t know each other and then Lee Know is roughed up in the beginning and wakes up next to Felix. At the end we see Felix roughed up and no one, but Lee Know knows him. What if they’re all dead and replaced with the most recent dead version of themselves in the one of the other universes that their universe is connected to, therefore wiping everyone’s memory of this person when they are replaced with this recent death version. But in SkzFlix there’s some kind universal glitch and that’s why Lee Know remembers Felix and Hyunjin is getting deja vu from Lee Know about either the previous version of Lee Know in that universe or the Lee Know from his original universe before his death. Sorry, that was a lot…
The paper in Lee Knows hand is probably the same one Han burns which is an application to a talent agency or something like that (I think)
I know this is 2 months old BUT I'm just catching up with your reactions. Their album trailers have a huge piece in the lore too!
The songs are in order. He’s not dead, they’re just not friends in this universe.
god I loved this deep dive. Thanks for all the hard work that went into this! I’d love more of these ❤
Thank you 🥹❤️
It’s so fun to watch you react to the lore, I laughed so many times, thank you for the reaction 😂
I agree with you.... I think it's all related or at least more than 75% of the MVs are.
I think I still have the link to a playlist of all their videos in order if you're interested.
I think I also have the MVs/teasers/trailers/unveils in order too that are supposedly all related to the lore if you're interested in that as well.
LEEKNOWWW always amazing and beautiful🐰❤❤❤
LEEKNOW he is my bias🤗❤
I love him❤
Thanks for the analysis! I read some time ago that these videos are connected, and I really noticed something, but I didn’t watch them like this in a row and with all the details. It was interesting to see them again with you. Your reaction to Bang Chan is amazing, I react to Hyunjin in the same way.
I know I left a comment under your SKZFLIX video on how it ties into the Mixtape/Film Club lore. But I can include some information that pulls from regular story line lore as well, which helps explain why certain things happen.
Things to know about regular lore. Glitches & timelines & multiverses started in the beginning of SKZ lore. The members have roles in the group. (This included Woojin when he was part of SKZ but when he left, his role went to Changbin. So I will just list Changbin's role as that is what he is now.)
-Bang Chan is the leader & key-keeper. He is also in charge of the GLITCH. He has the task of making sure everyone is in the right place & keeping on track in the right direction.
-Lee Know is the support. He is there to make sure the others are safe. He will always be in the background doing something to help the others. Like driving them places, giving emotional support, etc.
-Changbin is the center & balance. It's his job to keep the team from fighting amongst themselves. He settles things. He bridges the gaps between the members. (He used to be the drive in tandem with Han's motivation, but passed that solely to Han when he took over the balance role from Woojin.)
-Hyunjin is the wayfinder. He is tasked with finding alternate routs to their destination. This allows him to see paths that the others don't. He finds keys to paths & brings them to Chan. This also sometimes puts him at odds with both Felix & Seungmin.
-Han is the motivation & drive of the group. He is tasked with keeping them moving. And providing reasons to continue on the path they have decided on.
-Felix is the Navigator. Chan passed the compass to him, and Felix bonded with it. After it broke in Double Knot, he is seen with a dimensional compass that leads to alternate realities. It's his job to know where they need to go. This doesn't mean he knows the path to take to get there, so he sometimes distrusts the rout Hyunjin finds.
-Seungmin is the cartographer/record keeper. He is tasked with recording where they have traveled, what they encountered, and what paths were dead ends. He will always be seen writing, drawing maps, or taking pictures. In almost every reality, he will be doing some part of those. This will sometimes put him at odds with Hyunjin because he dosen't want a record of a dead path, but it is something that needs to be recorded.
-I.N is the GLITCH. He is the first to notice something wrong & does something that makes him an impossibility. He is the first thing that Chan noticed to break them out. Because of this, he is sensitive to alternate realities. He knows things the others do not. He is kind of connected to all the realities at the same time. Because of this, he is highly distractable & Chan has to keep his attention on the group & where they are.
That is the basics of the regular lore without the whole context. You would have to watch the story line to fully understand. Now. Mixtape/Film Club lore.
-They are all high School friends who formed a film club. When they decided to enter a film festival, they wrote a romance story. But during the filming both Lee Know & Hyunjin fell for the female lead. That was the first MV. It's pretty straight forwards on that.
-B Me picks up the story after Lee Know & Hyunjin have a falling out. The relationship with the girl doesn't last, but it tears apart the friend group. I.N & Seungmin have an altercation that ends with him crying in the parking lot & Seungmin destroying the script. (You will notice that Serungmin's knuckles are a bit red, and in a making of vid I.N said Seungmin punched him.) The rest are torn on who to stay friends with. During this turbulent time, Lee Know is involved in an accident and Han finds him. We are not told why this accident happened, just that it did. Han burns the application for the film festival that they had been working on. The end of the video is them remembering the good times. You will notice that almost every single one of them have bruises & lacerations to their face. They had all been fighting. Felix is the one who seems to be missing the companionship they had all had the most.
Mixtape: OH starts with them taking apart the film club after the accident. And graduating. That was Hyunjin's graduation certificate that Lee Know took from Han. He was still mad & hurting & just took it without knowing what it was. We have a time skip happen. We see them all years later, still scattered. But they are remembering their friendship. Seungmin is writing lyrics to songs, but remembering the past. Han is sitting at a bus stop that has the "Dreams Come True to Those Who Truly Want Them" on it. Felix also finds it in a book. Chan is listening to The View on his headset. Changbin is looking at old photos that they had taken. I.N has memories of Felix & then calls Hyunjin, but Hyunjin had left his phone in his studio when he stepped out to the roof to clear his head. It is also at this time when Lee Know finally decides to try to mend the broken friendship and comes to return the certificate. But since Hyunjin is on the roof, they miss each other & he leaves a note.
-The View is mostly Felix's wish. The sunny fields are his fondest desire for them to be together. This is why you see the film equipment & TVs with the previous videos playing on them. But this also has Lee Know & Hyunjin finally starting to reconcile. The forest is them all coming together again, and that leads to the beach at night scene. That is reality. They slowly join him. And they still have a small bit of tension, but they are together again. Felix seems to make a wish to have them all together....In all realities.
This brings us to SKZFLIX. Since Felix is bonded to the dimensional compass, he can skip dimensions....But he's bad at pathing. So he lands in a dimension where he wasn't part of. The members are not all friends, and not even all in the same film club. So he sets out to get them together...But since he wasn't part of that reality only Lee Know can see him, because he was the focus that Felix had. Hyunjin can sense something different around Lee Know, but doesn't know what it is. I.N can briefly interact with Felix, but forgets as fast when distracted by the others. Because of what they are, they can briefly see Felix, but don't realize what this means. I believe that when Felix leaves after getting the group together, another version of him lands in the dimension (He has the bruises) but he didn't use Lee Know as a focus, so he didn't see him. We need the Leave MV to understand fully.
Until the Leave unveil video and Skzflix came out, the "mixtape" lore was considered a separate side timeline to the actual "multiple universes/SKZs" lore they had. Exploring the full lore (and offshoot Japanese lore that started when the Korean Astronaut mv lead to the Japanese TOP mv) would take way longer.
But no-one has any definitive answers, since nothing (apart from the very general storyline Chan narrates in one video) has been confirmed. So all theories are welcome. 😂
Since the multiverse was originally not considered part of this storyline, the basic idea was:
-in Mixtape: On Track, the film club is shooting a movie for a short film conpetition, but things are derailed because of the love triangle. Also, I.N is in love with Hyunjin, and takes the milk as a 'babe, if she won't take your milk, I will, get it?' move. We establish the small film camera, film reels and Chan's headphones as key props.
-in B Me, Han burns the short film competition form, Felix looks at and puts away the unfinished film etc. since the break caused by the Hyunjin/Minho drama means the film never got finished. I.N is injured and upset because he presumably caused Minho's accident, wanting payback for his beloved Hyunjin (edited to add: though in the bts, they have alternate theories for this). All the boys think back to their happy times together, but are more definitively torn apart. Key props seen again.
-in Mixtape: Oh, school is over, the film club disbands as they empty their club room, including the camera and film reels. All boys are separated. The "dreams come true..." text is both read by Felix and seen in the bus stop ad next to Han. Minho, still recovering from the accident, decides to reach out to Hyunjin by taking his graduation papers to him, but not finding Hyunjin at the studio, leaves him a note. Chan listens to The View on his headphones, and Felix wishes on the cake.
-in The View, originally it was thought Felix's wish came true: the boys are reunited, hyunjin and Minho, first separated (represented by the door) are then seen together on the same side of the door. All key props are seen again, as are 3 tvs showing clips from the 3 previous mvs.
This was the og theory, with no multiverses, only a linear timeline, although some people had side theories:
-that only Hyunjin could see and interract with I.N in Mixtape: On Track (the same way people think only Minho can see Felix in Skzflix)
-that the Ex mv shows reality if Minho died in the accident, rather than just get injured (mainly because there's also a cake and there are symbolic ghosts)
-that the Winter Falls mv is what happens if Felix doesn't wish for the boys to be together again.
With Skzflix, who knows. Some people theorise there's one reality with Felix and one with Minho, both doing the same things. Some theorise Felix is there to guide Minho unseen by others. Some theorise that Felix is there normally and everyone can see him, but once the multiverses switch, the others except Minho and Hyunjin forget him.
Maybe it has nothing to do with the accident, but Felix tries to ensure the boys are all together by making sure they finish the short film and enter the competition, which both didn't happen because of the Hyunjin/Minho drama. So: another school/uni film club, another short film competition, Minho and I.N as actors again. Only now they finish the movie, and once it's finished, Felix's task is complete, and he's gone.
The involvement of Felix, I.N and Hyunjin in this storyline is interesting if we think of the actual Skz storyline, where:
-Felix is the superpowered "glitch"
-I.N is "the oracle" who knows what's going on in all multiverses
-Hyunjin knows something is wrong and is, apart from I.N, the only other member to be switched with another alternate self, until Felix, Chan and Changbin switch him back.
For "B Me", the making of video helped me understand what was suppose to be going on in the mv.
See, I'm over here thinking too deep into these things, cause I am equating it to their actual rough start. Lee Know and Felix being the two 'outsiders' brings be back to their beginning (which if you haven't seen the survival show, spoilers, though the survival show is rough to watch). It's significant to me.
Anyway, without Lee Know, they wouldn't be able to achieve their dream, but without Felix, they don't have the happy ending that they want (The View).
In SKZflix, I look at it as Felix sacrificing himself in a way, though I am not really sure why, just to be able to bring them together.
The order of the videos kinda follows a timeline. On Track is them working together but a conflict breaks them apart (Hyunjin and Lee Know). B Me is right after the fall out, and whatever accident happens to Lee Know (Han is the one running up to Lee Know on the ground, so that's why people say Han was involved some how). I.N. being hurt too maybe causes Hyunjin to further be spiteful to Lee Know because maybe he was hurt too (This linkage I only think is how Hyunjin is so close to I.N. in skzflixs, and weary of Lee Know because he's remembering). And while they wish for them being together again, they start to go their own ways, Mixtape OH. There, Lee Know and Hyunjin are at odds, and the rest of the group is alone. (IN maybe seeing Felix in the 7/11 is somehow a link between worlds, which is why IN can talk to Felix in flixs).
So at the end of that video, Felix makes a wish and that is The View.
Also, (I am too invested) all SKZ videos allude to I.N. Knowing something (in Gods Menu, at the beginning all the members are just standing, but I.N. looks up to the sky, in Astronaut, both IN and Hyunjin act a bit differently than the rest of the group, in Freeze, I.N. is the boss that they are looking for in the newspaper, as well as Hyunjin being there with him at the end.) So I.N. is important.
This story I think goes back to their Yellow Wood (album) era, because at the end of Side Effects, Hyunjin is alone and then the group comes in to get him. I think Levanter changed the direction of the storyline, but its still somewhat like Felix, Lee Know, Hyunjin, and I.N. being stand outs in some way.
I also just remembered in both Venom and Leave, Lee Know stands out too.
Anyway, I need to get a hobby or something because I theorize about this stuff but just to myself.
If you ever watch the music videos from Astronaut/Levanter and forward, be on the look out for the little things those four do.
I did this at my cubical at work cause I have no work orz
at 15:05 of this video, some of us think i.n in the mv as a crush on hyunjin (it’s not anything to do with the real lore but it’s just cute and some people make really good edits of this mv of them 2 🥲)
30:44 oh honey... you think these lyrics are SUS??
🤣😂🤣😅 (if you haven't) you NEED to listen to want so BAD by Han and Lee know...😂
Edit: but in all seriousness I think the reason why he's looking and Lee know like that is because Han is the one who found Lee know after the accident so I think he's just worried about him.😮😢
I've been checking for this video ALL DAY! I've struggled to understand the lore and I can't WAIT to dive in with you!!
Edited to clarify: I am watching this at work so I'm watching in spurts so as I watch I'm just timestamping points where my theories evolve.
23:17 THERE ARE ONLY 7 OF THEM WATCHING! BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO IS MISSING!!!
24:48 Also at the very end of SKZFLIX The scene where Lee Know asks where Yongbok is, he remembers filming with Felix but the clip is from the Be Me video where I.N is sitting up instead of Felix (There is also a chance that the members in SKZFLIX simply didn't know Felix and Yongbok are the same person because in their real lives, there was a time when Felix tried to hide his Korean name and the group actually didn't know it was his name until he had to introduce himself at a monthly evaluation with his Korean name- I just found that out recently). I think SKZFLIX is Felix going back to change the timeline so everyone likes eachother. I think that whatever accident happened at the beginning of Be Me resulted in someone dying in that universe which is why they're so distraught.
36:33 You missed that Chris was listening to The View on his phone!!
51:13 Current theory is that I think that LeeKnow dies in the accident and the wish Felix makes to replace him. In SKZFLIX it starts with LeeKnow with the cuts on his face but at the end, Felix has the cuts. I think he wishes for them to trade places.
However, there are other videos where I.N has the cuts so I am also wondering if ALL of them accidentally created separate timelines by reminiscing and internally wishing for things to be different but Felix's formal wish is what makes them all realities. That's where the Megaverse comes into things where they created the Megaverse through the wishes and the HOT Megaverse is one where they never got broken up or had conflicts. I think Leave is going to fill in details and I think it might reflect the On Track music video as an alternate recording of the same video.
Amazing video! I can tell you worked hard! I love watching you catch all the connections now that you're seeing the older videos!
I 100% agree with you that all the music videos are almost like different universes or different instances of the Kids in each universe, like different timelines even. There's definitely some intertwining, and instances of them knowing in some universes and not knowing in others (usually individually). That could explain why they remember things from universes that aren't their own (or are variations of their own like On Track and SKZFLIX (I think)). I'm also a believer that some of the Kids aren't in their OG universes, perhaps universe hopping. That might be why some members seem to be more involved in the multiverse aspect than others (like Felix).
What I love about the SKZverse is that the guys like us coming up with our own interpretations, so we may never have the right answers! But we're gonna have fun coming to the conclusions that feel right for us. Also pro tip for lore hunting!: the , (comma) and . (period) keys will go through a YT video frame by frame when paused. You can use that to find things that are only seen for like single or few frames. Like the script Lee Know is holding when walking with Felix - I believe it says the Korean title for Cover Me on it.
I realize that there are otherworldly/multiverse-type things going on in this story line (complete with really cool parallels and easter eggs), but I feel like it's ultimately all used to portray a very simple, transcending truth for skz: their strength in solidarity. The story line begins with lee know and hyunjin letting an outside influence (it's a girl in the mv but it could really be anything) come between them. A rift is formed when hyunjin blocks lee know from his dream (acting) bc of this outside influence. This instability appears to have caused severe damage to the skz members in following mv's. Lee know has visible injuries and scars, hyunjin and lee know are portrayed as antagonists, and lee know potentially dies. The members seem to be lost in mourning, with hyunjin and lee know eventually showing deep regret. This type of break down to their group would be devastating to Stray kids. Past trauma to their group bonds (beginning with the temporary losses of felix and lee know during the survival show, and leading up through hyunjin's forced hiatus) has likely made a huge impact on all of them. In fact, i find it symbolic that felix, lee know, and hyunjin are the main protagonists in this story line. Skz have always drawn their strength and well-being from the very act of being together. They win/thrive when it's all 8 of them against the world. I would argue that Social Path and The Sound mv's also tie into this story by showcasing their electrifying/hurdle busting power (with literal visuals cues) when they come together. Interestingly, Social Path also sets felix up as an angel with the means to bridge chasms separating skz from their goals (ie to cross over to Lisa in the mv). Felix has always seemed to symbolize purity and happiness to skz, so it's not surprising that in this story line, felix appears to dream about skz being whole and happy. By blowing out the candle, i think felix acts to make a sacrifice in order to become the means to bridge the chasm between lee know and hyunjin (i.e. he becomes an angel). Indeed, in the skz film, felix seems to take on an angellic aura. He always has an otherworldly light about him, and never seems to be fully grounded with the others. His role appears to be act as a guide to bring lee know back to the group, heal the damage, and thus bring all of skz back to their original dream/goal (acting in this case). In the film, Lee know begins to actively accept Felix's help, and a more mature, thoughtful hyunjin seems to remember and miss lee know. When outside influences disappear (i.e. the original girl is gone) and the members work together, their creative genius comes alive and they produce their masterpiece (a film entitled Leave). Tragically, however, felix notes the progress as if from afar (talking to himself on the bus), and says he will have to leave. Finally, the candle-lit cake is brought out to signal Felix's wish has been fulfilled, but felix seems to have been erased from the story line. Only lee know and hyunjin (the protagonists who caused the rift) recognize the cost that was paid to heal the group, and the sacrifice felix made to change the ending. They both chase after him, but felix is gone, trapped outside of their reality. He is found sitting stagnant back in the opening scene, as if he never moved--still cast in an other-worldy light. There is one difference, however. Felix now bears the damaging scars the others have healed from. I think the final sound of a new candle being lit signals skz wont let him go, either.
I never expected to be so invested in Kpop lore… I’m kinda hooked.
if you miss a shot you can press the , to go back a frame or . to go forward a frame (e.g. pressing , 30 times will got back one second on a 30 frame rate video)
WHEN U DID THE CAKE THING I SCREAMED HELL YEAH ITZY
The we are here for Lore. We are here for Lore... So me while watching cuz these men have me in my feels 😢🥺😍🤔
I N holding the jelly bean container is me fr fr 😗🤌 (I love jelly beans) Anyway Back to Lore with Lorl
Haven't seen the video till the end yet but 31:42 yes please! Bang Chan NEEDs to see your reaction to him so he can believe that he's really good looking and maybe then he'll stop saying that he's not (I'm referring to his message on bubble today, and other times too, where he says that he's not good looking... grrrr he drives me mad with his self-consciousness(?) about his looks)
my theory is : in skzflix the other members can somehow interact/noticing Felix's presence when leeknow is there but they just got a glimpse of him like some kind of fragments(?) but not fully aware of his existence(this is why we can see the other member interacting with felix but after he left they forget about him) because in my head Felix's purposes in skzflix is only to make them connected together because in mixtape : on track - be me - mixtape:oh they got separated (bcs of the misunderstanding between hyunjin and leeknow also the accident. their relationship is ruined that's why in mixtape oh they're all alone and sad). So Felix want them to be together without any misunderstanding in another universe (he lead leeknow so that han and seungmin coincidentally meet him).
And in the end of skzflix, maybe in another universe felix is the one who's got in to the accident and teleport there(maybe just like leeknow at the beginning) bcs the other member is making a wish (bangchan is the one who held the cake now instead of felix).
BUT I DONT KNOW ADFAGSKSL sorry for rambling with broken english i just want to let this out of my chest bcs i dont have someone to talk about skz 😭
As you said, so much content and still not set answers. It's all just theories.
I believe Chan said that their music is art so there's not right and wrong answers. It's just for fun and everyone can interpret it in their own way
AND NO ONE IS WRONG
Things I am learning/questions from this video and my own watchings:
Is I.N. The Felix to Hyunjin's Lee Know in the On Track Video? does anyone other than Hyunjin interact with him?
Lee Know in On Track and B Me is "good" at sports (soccer and then Basketball) but in SKZflix he missed the basket (and Hyunjin spotted it)
바보라도 알아 - Even a Fool knows (line from On Track)
The end of B Me has a flicker of flame (like a candle?)
OH has the first instance of the phrase: "Dreams come true..." on the Bus stop right before Felix sees it in the book
OH also feels like they have all grown apart (maybe due to Lee Know dying/the accident/naturally growing apart after you leave school)
If Felix in SKZFlix is in the same role as I.N in on track then he would 100% be nudging Lee Know into the right places for him to do what he wants/needs to do
My best guess on the blurry Script Lee Know has at the start is: 가리줘 or "Please Tell Me" but I have NO IDEA what that is referencing (Pls Help STAY!)
Felix calls I.N. by his stage name, but Hyunjin uses his birth name. Not sure of any significance
Is it the lighting of the candle which erases Felix from this timeline? hes only gone from the film/memories FOR SURE after they light the candle.
That is a lot but wanted to put this out in the world and share my tin foil hat theories
Also I am here for your new alter-ego LORE-L
You can watch the making of b-me, to know about the minsung photo and about why minho missing that shoot deserves a look from Hyunjin
I was thinking After THE VIEW the story Would be End of the DRAMA and it's all enough, then LEAVE/SKZFLIX coming As A STAY THAT's really got me so Confusing!!
GURL IS NOT BECAUSE STAY IS FOOL AND DUMBED :" IT'S BECAUSE STRAYKIDS HAS TOO MUCH BRAINS
26:54 It’s Korean name of mixtape on track (so the movie they film in the 1st mv)
I think Han know him because he know he’s an actor in skzflix
I saw a theory where the view is the wish and lonely st is what really happened but I’m not sure lonely st don’t seems connected
I heard it was Winter Falls that is the real ending. I have also heard some theorize that in Winter Falls Felix went back in time and is tring to warn everyone about everything but Noone listens or something like that.
@@kasakuie oh that interesting I love seeing all the theories haha
It says 바보라도 알아, which means, even if you’re a fool you know.
(Pabo is like fool or stupid as most Stays know. It’s gentler than stupid, as in paboracha).
Yes, this is is the Korean title of Mixtape: On
35:48 it’s giving the Stitch “HI” clip lol is that what you were going for
I stg were literally the same person. I love ur reactions lol
Okay, this is just a theory, what if felix wishes to trade places with lee know and that he never existed so that no one is sad. Thats why felix has the bruising on his face... and thats why no one remembers him except lee know.. but for some reason hyunjin somewhat remembers everything.. like he knows something is up and is trying to figure it out as well..
and they group had a falling out bc of what happened between hyune and lino thats why everyone is sad 😭
Chris peak hotness in Mixtape Oh.... and The View. 🥵
That man will never peak lol
How fun would it be if they ditched everything and started dating 😂😂😂😂 it would be such a fun twist , that after looking and investigating all these lore we would find its just two dude's story of getting together
The piece of paper that Seungmin has at 26:52 says "Even a fool knows" I'm not really sure what that could mean though.
44:21 im sorry but the way you turned your eyes from the video is so funny HAHHAHAHAHHA
edit: 45:16 stoooppppp hahahhaha im sorry it's so funny and so relatable because chris is also my bias(ult actually) lol
another edut: 46:09 I hope channie sees this because I definitely know that he'll gush about it and say you're reactions are so cuttteeeee( I mean it really isssss cuteee)
last edit: okay simping aside, what I think about this lore, "universe" rather, is that mixtape: on track, B Me and Mixtape: Oh is the origin story. Long story short, hyunjin and lee know were really close, all of them were members of a filming club, hj and lk fought for the girl, and the filming club gets shut down because they didn't have funds for which the film they would submit into the competition should cover their funds(or they just graduated and can't continue the club anymore), there were other problems occurred in the club not only the hjxlk situation but to the other members too( can't specify it but yeah, just real life problems occurring), yongbok tried to wish for something after seeing the quote dreams come true... and it worked. The View MV is much more like a universe where all the members are happy and doing what they want but still together, I think yb sees this because his wish is(assuming that this is his wish) for all the members to be happy together there's nothing he can do much with this universe, now that he knows he can travel through universes he wished again for another universe where he can help the other members and that's where skzflix comes.
here's what I think, yb was always there he's just from another universe(his the on track yb, or maybe he's not the only variant of himself that knows who can travel through universes, I mean skz lore as a whole is based on having multiple "clones" and universes) Lee know is the lee know form the skzflix universes, the noises, in the beginning, is that the injuries might be from another accident that occurred in that world or, this is just my assumption, doesn't it look like that the beginning sounds is more like from a family of many "problems", like lk is suffering from family abuse. yb sees this and "helps" lk meet the other members, seungmin and han already knew each other but don't know the others. okay, why do i think that yb was really there and not like the other stays say that he was just lk's illusion? because they were filming for a contest. wouldn't you be weirded out if your lead actor is talking to someone they don't see while filming? wouldn't they question it? so I think highlighting that Jeongin as the only one who actively interacted with yb except for lee know was just to point out that I.N is someone who might know something or his very existence comes with meaning( cause in the skz lore it is believed that IN knows everything, the universes, the "clones", EVERYTHING, I think chan confirmed it in one of his vlives, I think). so again, yb was always there it's just that the " wishes" condition is that there's only one yb who can exist in a universe and not at the same time, the yb of skzflix might have been sent to another universe while the yb of mixtape: on track was there in skzflix. and when the wish came true, Yb of on track is sent to another universe again and yb of skzflix was sent back and the universe is trying to make it right by letting the others not remember yb of on track so that when they meet yb of skzflix they wouldn't be confused or something like that, he is the one we saw at the end with bruises( there might be another story for why he was bruised but that's from another universe that we may never get, cause we can't all know the stories of every universes) now, why does lee know still remembers yb and the others cant? it may be because his existence, like I.n's, has meaning in the whole skz lore(still don't know what really it is) but yeah he does remember yb, now that comes with consequences because that can be the start of lee know of skzflix knowing that other universes exist ( and yet another story that skz can come up with, or not, depends on them lol)
In conclusion, I just made a whole ass essay on yt comment section hahhaha
the story for skzflix might be the end of that story( or not if they decided to continue with that scenario) if there is a next one, it may likely be another universe where yb of on track is on a mission to make his "wish" come true.
here's what I was always thinking about yb's wish has some flaws and it embodies the motto of " be careful what you wish for" I think yb only wished that they could still be together but never thought that the universe would take it in a serious note, yb ended up doing a "job" for the universe in a sense but it is what he wished, he just have to work hard on it, the only thing is that he is the only one who wouldn't be together with the members, his other variants will take his place after he made the wish come true. His wish was to be together with the members but he will not get that until he himself goes back to his original universe and makes it come true rather than going to other universes the "rules" of the universe doesn't let him because he still not done until all the wishes from the universe came true. so yeah, yongbok will pay the consequences of wishing for something and not being satisfied with it.
okay, gonna stop here now haahahahha sorry if its to confusing
really love your reactions by the way, hope you continue reacting and supporting them
This isn't Laurel, this is LORE-rel..
ok the video has only just started for me, I'll be quiet and get back to watching now ♡♡♡ thanks for the UH-MAY-ZING videos Laurel!!
dammit I made the SAME joke before I saw your comment lmao great minds think alike
I like all the theories about BALLS. 🤪
I love this!!! ❤❤❤
i think lino went to hyunes studio to reconcile but just missed hyune 🥹
So, the biggest problem with only seeing these 4 vids is that while they are the most lore heavy and specifically tied to each other, you're still missing SKZ storyline, which kind of bleeds into everything. I'm trying to find the full storyline list.. 🤔🧐
There's a epic layout to the roles each of the boys had in the multiverse happening... Chan knows everything, I.N is a duplicate that got swapped from another universe and is with the wrong group, Hyunjin is the navigator and sees through overlaps, Felix is a compass.... like, i cant remember it all. 😵 And Channie has talked about this in videos too. Its bonkers.
There was a theory about I.N. that he can see other universes and Stray Kids in them. Perhaps, this scene at 34:07 is because of that
And also a theory about Felix that when he blow the candle he moves to another world.
"Nothing has been explained" Lol welcome to Kpop lore x3
The vast majority of it is rather subtle & vauge. That's why Skz Flix was such a big deal.
Hmmmm....I am not sure if anyone said what the book said. The one you asked about said, "Even a fool knows." Interesting....not sure what it means, but it is an interesting saying.
Skzflix is the redo of them first meeting with the making of the movie. Everything that happend is a diffrent reality from the others. Felix made a wish to replace lee know after the accident hurt/killes him and made the group break up. The view is felixs last happy time with the whole group and the with skzflix lee know is the only one who can see felix and when he finds out no one know felix he goes back to where he started and hyunjin is remembering the other timeline. So when lee know ran off he ran off after him because he finally remembered felix. Thats my theory theres probably huge gaps. Lol
Mi teoría incluye a "Oddinary Main Trailer" no sé si ya lo has visto, por eso no te daré detalles de lo que pasa allí, pero mi teoría es que Félix piensa en un mundo lindo y bueno en dónde se reúnen para su deseo;sin embargo, llega a la realidad de Oddinary dónde lo creen uno de ellos excepto Hyunjin que siente una especie de interés por Félix por eso lo expulsa de su mundo pero también lo sigue, cayendo Félix en la realidad de SKZFLIX, allí trata de salvar a Lee Know, pero esa realidad no puede soportar su presencia(la de Félix) porque no pertenece allí, por eso lo termina expulsando, en ese mundo Félix sacrifica su existencia para que Lee Know tenga una nueva vida, Hyunjin del mundo Oddinary toma el cuerpo del Hyunjin del mundo SKZFLIX, por eso se muestra hostil con Lee Know pero también interesado en el, porque Félix(su sujeto de estudio) está dispuesto a incluso desaparecer por salvar a Lee Know, así que cuando Félix es expulsado de esa realidad y todos lo han olvidado, Hyunjin sigue a Lee Know porque sabe que él puede guiarlo hacia Félix ya que estan conectados, cómo Lee Know no puede dejar ir a Félix sin querer por su intenso deseo de encontrarlo, cruza hacia otra realidad, dónde Félix está en la misma situación de Lee Know, Hyunjin de Oddinary puede o no haber cruzado con Lee Know para tratar de encontrar nuevamente a Félix o divertirse viendo que es lo que hará ahora Lee Know(otro interesante sujeto de estudio).
No sé si se entienda, trate de resumirlo y no dar sproiler por si aún no has visto "Oddinary Main Trailer" por cierto para mí ese vídeo comienza desde el final, osea cuando Félix llega al mundo Oddinary es en el final y no en el inicio, en el inicio es cuando está tratando de buscar una salida de aquel mundo.
In Be Me it was Han that hit Lee Know
Just something to also keep in mind but sometimes even though the Mv has English subtitles it’s not always exactly right. Like in the skzfix leeknow is actually saying “who” as in who are you? Telling us that he doesn’t know who Felix is in the beginning of the video. It’s like we are getting what they are saying but it isn’t always in the right context.
35:05 Isn't it the same bus as in SKZFLIX? I'm also a baby STAY and I WANT TO KNOW :D
The art class that Felix mentions, is that the same art class where Lino left Hyunjin messages? Maybe?
It's also been insinuated that Felix is an angel
@@mxvickispeak The fact that there is a fake wing tattoo at the Dome concerts makes this theory so plausible. But maybe I see messages everywhere, since they absolutely spoil all their comebacks 😂🤷🏻♀(sorry for my English is not my first language 😅)
I mean if Han didn't know Lee Know in skz flix then how did he know he was an actor?
the videos of winterfall and lonely st. aren't they also part of the story??
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have you watched the" kingdom" ?
Hi~~
Absolutely love your videos!! Your reactions are awesome😊
When you have time, please watch ODDINARY trailer if you haven't yet~
I think Lee know is 100% dead in the world where he had the accident. He has to be, i just rewatched Lonely St mv cause i felt like i was missing something and yeah that mf is DEAD
that's why i don't try to understand the skz lore... i don't have the brain for that... i don't even know all of the BTS lore much less skz's
Laurel? More like Lore-L 😎👉👉
26:53 is 바보라도 알아 (anglicised pronunciation: “paborado ara,” which means, even if you’re a fool), you know.
As @Marieonette1121 already said in another comment, it’s the Korean name of Mixtape: On.