Jehovah’s Witness Snitching Culture
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- In this video I attempt to quickly discuss the Jehovah’s Witness snitching culture, and why it is a hallmark of cults.
I also mention how Jehovah’s Witness LOVE to snitch because they feel it is their scriptural duty based on Leviticus 5:1, but they somehow often forget the words at Matthew 18:15.
And of course I share a personal story in my life when I got snitched on.
Please share with me your JW snitching stories in the comments! The best (or the funniest) story will be pinned in the comment section!
By the way, if you’ve never heard of Steven Hassan’s BITE Model, you can take a look at it here: freedomofmind.com/bite-model/
They love snitching cause they don’t have anything productive to do in their miserable lives!
The more you snitched; the more "spiritually minded" you were.
lol
LOL truth. (see what I did there?) LOL
My own husband’s dad snitched on him for smoking weed. He was disfellowshipped for it. Meanwhile, his dad was an alcoholic.
Funny enough, most of the snitches usually have issues themselves.
WOW!
Normally the case! This is why many of us cannot tolerate hypocrisy in ANY GROUP!
So once he was DF, did the family shun the son?
One time I went to help a sister with her computer, the following day we sent a message and I told her she was the type of sister I would be interested in. This young sister saw it and when straight to the elders. They approached and asked me if I was dating the sister that I fixed the computer. When I found it was the young sister I asked why she didn’t come to me she just said “I got nervous because my family told me I should tell the elders”. From that day I didn’t trust anyone from the congregation
Can't trust witnesses especially if you have an interest in the opposite sex.
They'll interfere in your personal business and screw up any chance of you getting to know someone.
If in a relationship or starting out in a relationship people in the congregation will have nothing better to do than to interfere and ruin a relationship and they're happy about it.
They're idiots.
@@peterkos1034 well I found out years later, that the elders had always talked bad about to any sister that asked about me. They always used the excuse that I had been disfellowshipped twice and to stay away from me. SMH I swear that religion is so screwed up.
Funny that the 2-witness rule does not apply in the majority of snitching cases but when it comes to child abuse suddenly 2 witnesses are needed for the report to be true
wannabe freespirit EXACTLY!!!!!
Lmfao W !!!!!
You deserve a academy award for best RUclips comment.
Yeah, my sister snitch on me when my younger brother told on me for experimenting with pot, I wasn't baptized, but Elder spoke to me anyway. It was funny because I smoked pot with one of the other Elder's son.
The elders kids ALWAYS got away with stuff lol
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 Yeah, nepotism!!
That's normally the case! All of my wrongdoing and my daughter's wrongdoing was with fellow JWs! Lol....
I overheard a newcomer’s child tell one elder who was asking too many questions, that “Ny momma said to keep folks out of our family business.”
My messy butt yelled out, “Ur mommas right little one” as I moved through the crowd. 😇
dawnye C 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I snitched on someone when I was in middle school cause her friends bought balloons, flowers, and a cake to celebrate her birthday. In actuality I was jealous that she was getting that attention from her friends. All these years later if I ever run into her again I would apologize for doing that bs.
Dude, my own brother turned me in to the judicial commitee!
John Hernandez daaaaaaaamn that sucks. But you know, he thought he was doing “the right thing” to please the elders, i mean Jehovah lol
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 I thought I was the Man ... Your the man my friend... super video.. the total reality snitcher inside of the garbage JW
Hi Matt, you had me in tears laughing because everything you said was soooo true. As I posted on one of your previous videos, my congregation was the disfellowshipping/reproving capital of the JWs world. The Circuit Overseers would constantly come to our hall to give needed counsel because of all of the disfellowshippings and public reprovings. I used to call our hall the Young and the Restless because it was like a soap opera. We had a sister in our congo who was a regular pioneer for years and would run to the elders on everybody. She was a single sister for many years until she married a pioneer brother. She got into trouble because she was a nurse and she apparently came across one of her JWs patients who had had an abortion and she ran to the elders on this other sister. The elders immediately disfellowshipped the sister who had the abortion and she sued the hospital because the JWs sister had snitched on her. So JWs nurses and doctors can be sued if they run to the elders on their JWs patients. JWs are not the only one who snitch on people. I work with alot of Born Agains and they love to run to the supervisors on everybody but they never tell on themselves. Snitches only want to put the spot light on other people to avoid it being on them. That is human nature.
Young and the restless 😂😂😂
I got snitched on by a so called brother when I was about 20. My dad got a phone call from an elder who said he wanted to speak to me at the next meeting as he'd been told I'd been swearing at this "brother's place of work".
When I got to the meeting, this elder had me at the back of the hall before the meeting started and said that "Ken" (not his real name, but his wife looked like Barbie 😂), had heard me and my friend, who was also a witness at the time, swearing. Now this was my own computer business and I was delivering to Ken's company, so I was being professional and I know that neither me or my friend had sworn. So this is what I told the elder and that my friend would confirm it. Instead of calling my friend into the conversation, which was by no means private, he calls Ken over and asks him.
Ken said that it was actually his secretary who said she thought she'd heard us swear in the hallway as we passed her office and maybe she heard wrong!! He didn't even have the balls to come and ask me if she'd heard correctly before he grassed me up! The elder was also wrong for doing it at the back of the hall in front of other witnesses according to there rules, especially if I'd have needed "private reproof".
It also turned out later that Ken was banging the secretary too, but funnily enough was never disfellowshipped or even publicly reproved, despite his wife making it very public knowledge.
Love your videos mate, I'm looking forward to the next one.
@Chiafade now yes they were what a lot of people would consider good looking, even though she had plastic surgery and they were certainly rich. He was an accountant and drove a Bentley and a Porsche.... at least until she drove his Porsche into the Bentley to get him back for cheating on her haha
My husband and I have recently discovered your channel and have found it very interesting and entertaining. We feel you are doing a good job and hope you continue to keep it up. I am using my husband' account to write to you. I am an ex Jehovah's Witness for 30 years but married a non believer. I was of course reproved. My husband tried to come to the meetings for a while and became an un-baptised publisher until he realised it was a cult and stopped. Long story to our complicated history together which I will not go into at the moment. I wanted to tell you our amusing story of when we were dating and how we were snitched on. My parents were on holiday so I had the house to myself. I had a chaperone staying with me. One evening I was preparing a meal and my fiancee was with us. As I was busy in the kitchen and the chaperone was busy watching television, my home phone rang. I asked my fiancee to answer the phone. It was a sister from the congregation. 15 minutes later I had a phone call from the head elder of the congregation accusing me of being alone in the house together making a meal without a chaperone. I put my chaperone on the phone as proof that we were not alone. I then had a go at the elder and and said they had no right to confront us like that without confirming facts. I was informed next time my fiancee should not answer the phone. I told him it was my house I could let him answer the phone if I wished, he had no right to tell me who can answer my phone. I then phoned the sister who snitched and reminded her of the scripture you quoted and said she should get her facts straight before running to the elders. Unfortunately I had to find a new chaperone as my chaperone was now too upset. My husband and I still laugh about it to this day. I am glad that my husband persevered and supported me for years as I was leaving the cult. As I was shunned by my family and friends.
Your story reminds me of the time when I was told that they saw me driving a car with a man sitting next to me that wasn't my husband. I told them: "Well first of all, I've never driven a car, nor do I have a license, so you must not have seen me driving a car. LMBO!
They were so thirsty to snitch that they imagined you driving 😂
You are so funny brother ,every single word is so true snitching and gossip is their favourite culture
There was too much drama in the org!! I guess with WT/GB control and dogma of no higher education, no career or ambitions, the only thing left to do was snitching, cleaning toilets and knocking on doors!...SMH
I was helping a work friend across the road to my car, as she had injured her leg, we were spotted by a snitch who thought we were both drunk as we were wobbling around! Instead of stopping to ask if I was OK (two women on their own in the middle of the city at night and intoxicated as he thought??) he went straight to the elders to report it. Such Christian behaviour! It wasn't long after I left the organisation. Just one of the straws that broke my back!
Jilly C terrible. So terrible. But in the witness world the obession with “keeping the congregation clean” comes above everything. Even personal health and safety.
Jilly C. You should have said.."If I'd have known that I'd be accused of Intoxication, I should have finished off that 40 ouncer in the back of my truck!(or really get them with "I should have called Tony Morris over for a wee bit of Single Malt Scotch!"😂😂); 😂And do it with as much of a straight face as you can muster...😂😂...at least until you leave the building...then...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍😉😉
@@sparklecanada0112 LMAO!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅
Bro, I love ❤️ tattle tailing! 😆😆😆. I just feel like a a good cop when I do it!! Anyway, these days I love tattle tailing on the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization’s imperfections.
Proud to say i never snitched. But i definitely got falsely accused. Smh
Me too lol
I didn't either....but if i saw something i used it for leverage cuz I stayed in the "elders meeting" due to snitches. LOL
You are so funny when you tell all this JW ridiculousness. I can relate so much.
Reiner Esser thanks! Im normally not even trying to be funny, its just how i talk lol
You're so funny and articulate, I honestly just love listening to your stories! your channel is a treasure lol, thank you for sharing it all
Valeria Vagapova aww thank you so much! Im just trying to keep it real
My ex-girlfriend snitched on me when her so-called best friend kissed me in the mouth when we were temporarily broken up (her best friend was technically married).
This prevented me from becoming an elder. I told her that it was just a kiss, nothing else happened, and I could lose my standing as a ministerial servant. She said: " That's ok, I still want you..." SMH.
Many people use JW snitching as a fact finding mechanism. At this point in my life I want to thank her for preventing me from becoming an elder! She's still a Snitch though! 😂🤣
Muntu Poets Legacy whooooooa buddy! Thats kinda wild. I’d like some more details! 😂
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 I got a whole book worth of stuff my brother - seriously. Maybe we can collaborate.
Can't wait for the collab!
Muntu Poets Legacy absolutely fam. Also i love the pic. Dope flag
Beware a woman scorned....lol
Actually that was one of which jesus warned would be an issue in the worldwide congregation in the last days
"That woman jezebel"
Anyone got any ideas ?
Things lve been through l guess
Is it the way Women and others express
Is it part of the jezebel influence
A type of behaviour christ in revelation
Warned against
The motivation behind ones, especially men were spoken or acted against
When women are rejected
it's how they cleverly vent.
Often they wont literally outwardly scream
But they make certain wherever they know
Your plans and dreams
They scheme to cause you trouble somehow
Vengefully vindictively equalizing hurt feelings
So You feel what they feel..
Made happy
Preventing you from realising your dreams.
Anyone have an idea you're willing to share ?
I was snitched on by someone I thought was my friend. I had told her that I went to drop something off at a male coworkers home and stayed for a few mintes to meet his kids and ended up watching the end of an episode of breaking bad. Then leaving. She told on me to her elder husband that day and the next day the brothers wanted to lecture me about the dangers of bad association. I felt betrayed.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I cant stop laughing!
I was in 8th grade and one day I walked to the store for lunch with "worldly kids". I sister driving by saw me.. because I was like the only red head.. and she called up mama and I got an ass whoopin when I got home.
Lady L it was that red hair!!! 😂👩🏻🦰
I know it wasn't funny then, but I'm dying!!🤣🤣😂 I can definitely relate!
I stayed gettin my ass beat for the same thing hone! And my groundings lasted whole semester long! By the time I was off grounding punishment the whole basketball season was over, or football. LOLLLLLL
You know I'm over here already answering your questions before you even gave the answer 😂😂 😂! You know they got eyes everywhere!! They can't even give anyone the benefit of the doubt! I would have been in that sister's face the next meeting!
Snitching? I am currently in hiding because my brother, an elder, came to visit and asked me why I wasn't at the meeting. I mistakenly told him why. He immediately turned me in and in 24 hours I was receiving phone calls from all the elders, and in less than 48 they were knocking on my door.
Aaawww maan! I was snitched on regularly.....I stayed in the B-school room. I hated when before the meetings the elders would come to me and say" uuh we have to meet with you after the meeting" thaf was pure hell for them 2 hours! Uuugghhh
@Justin Richardson Exaaactly! Lol
Justin Richardson facts bro! You get that double tap and you be SHOOK 😂 even if you didnt do anything wrong
Yes! Omg I called it the "interrogation room" you knew something was up when one of the elders has ur ass going in there lol
@@shimmie7623 the situation room lol
When I was younger I always wondered why you gotta confess to “elders” if God sees everything anyway? SMH 🤦🏾♀️
I subscribed and liked your videos without thinking it twice. Hey 👋 fellow viewers..., hit that like button!
Ditto!
Thanks Carlos!
OMG! 😂😂😂😂 Back in 1989 when I was in Bethel it was ridiculous. The snitching culture was used to move up the proverbial kingdom latter.
Your video is as usually honest and also entertaining. Keep up the good work my love. #snitchesgetstitches
I believe snitching is a sign of vulnerability. Strong people don't snitch (dob).
When I joined the JWs I was told that self reporting or reporting on others helps to keep the congregation and ultimately Jehovah's organisation clean ... I bought it
Funny thing is that Jehovah never had or used an organization.
"Give it a rest you snitch!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great video.
We had a sister not in our congregation but a near one that loved gossip and loved to snitch. I couldn’t stand her and she was a close friend of my mom. Once a when we were teens a friend of ours told a joke going: you know the 3 forms of communication? They’re; telephone, telegram and tell Es____!(sister’s name) lol her kids told her and the brothers talked to that friend and he got in trouble for that! Such a small thing! But everyone knew she was the biggest gossiper.
caliwacan hahahahaha
That was a good one. I bet they laughed privately.
That brainwashing is serious. I laugh at my mom and sister who are JW's and rubuke what they say EVERYDAY. When they get mad I tell them to leave it in Jehovahs hands.
Haaaaa thats the Jw favorite line
😁😁😁
😂😂😂😂😂😂 savage.
Ivin Golden, if you really want to be effective, watch Anthony Magnabusco on RUclips or any of the other Street Epistemology heroes. I can never fathom why they keep being so patient and polite! I would burst out laughing when I hear their "reasoning"...
I love that use their own phrase on them
😹😹😹😹😹😹😹 I was laughing so hard I woke up my kids 😹Im on the other side of the pond but *everyone* has a sister like your sister Busybody. I got snitched on for wearing - wait for it - EYELINER at school by our dinnerlady ( that's right, I think she was a PLANT by the elders! Can you imagine being a teenaged kid and your dinnerlady is the cong busybody?!)
Eyeliner Porneia! They'll getcha with anything and everything! I'd tell the Elders they're guilty of wearing "Unclean" Depends!
Eyeliner?!? Wowwww that is so silly 😂
I used to date a JW woman. We had to Drive outta the County lest a congregation member SAW us. Welcome to America,land of the FREE.🇺🇸🗽🎇
I'm not hitting on you because we are both married, but I could listen to you all day. I gave up on organized religion in 2007.
So funny!! I remember when I was dating this guy in the congregation and he had the nerve to say that I should tell a female friend off for saying a word that he didn’t like
I have family in the cult, and I thank my brain I was never pulled into it. The stories I hear of snitching-even on immediate family members for petty BS-are insane. What a set-up for vengeful retaliation! As the saying goes, snitches get stitches. Of course, with JWs, it will be mental & emotional stitches instead of physical. Great video!
Name 'em & shame 'em! You KNOW they watch these videos.
Love it!
I went to a rock concert, Ratt & Poison in 1987 and two teenaged girls I didn't know sat on my lap together. Not by my invitation, but I didn't complain either. I thought it was funny and I told the story. I was snitched and had my privileges removed. I later heard that a sister who was a good friend was the snitch. And she was no angel herself.
When I was a teen I actually did approach the person who did the wrong and encouraged her to tell her parents and or elders know she was pregnant before she started showing. Damn if I didn’t get in trouble for not snitching on her first🥺😡
Apryl Masdeu Now THAT’S messed up!
Of course you got in trouble! How dare you actually do the right thing! 🤦🏾♂️ meanwhile you was just trying to help your homegirl out smh
I got disfellowship because I was snitched!
They did you a favor!!
Oh my days....snitching 😮
A group of us jw teenagers went to the river and some older jw ones came down too and they brought some Whiskey. Of course they offered some to me and my friends and we got rather intoxicated.
Well because I was the only undedicated one they blamed the whole thing on me and I was shunned.
Wow thats foul
As a former honestly can say nope haven't snitched on nobody because I go by the scripture Jesus said mind your own business. And stop being a busybody in other people's affairs.now if somebody came to me talkin about I want to tell you something and I don't know if I should tell the elders first thing to me look I ain't trying to hear it can you help you keep me out of your business I'm not qualified to hear whatever you done it's above my pay rate.so nobody can say you ratted me out you're a snitch or a tattletale
This video cracked me up so much! If only I could get a penny for each snitching story I have experienced or known of I'd be a millionaire. Here's one: I was19, summer evening about 11pm in my country (Italy), that time in the summer is equivalent to being like 7-8pm in NAM, EVERYONE is out or about to go out.
I bumped into a school friend (non-jw) who was a good friend of mine and had not seen him for a while. So we grabbed an ice cream and sat at the shop to catch up. After a few minutes, the jw woman who converted my mother walked by. I said hello and didn't act weird as I wasn't doing anything weird, but I knew from the onset that would have meant trouble. Sure enough the day after, my mother said: "Someone" said that they saw you late last night getting cozy with a guy. - I literally laughed in my mother's face and told her: first of all, that "someone" is XYZ, second of all I bumped into X (who my mother knew well him and his family and knew nothing would have been going on) and we were catching up as I have not seen him in a while, so you can tell XYZ next time to mind her business.
Another time...I used to go to the gym as I was diagnosed with scoliosis at 12 so it was important that I exercised. Going to the gym was frown upon in my congregation, but as I was quite active in the congregation and a decent kid, so other older sisters started to join and the elders didn't complain about it too much. Then some gave up as many do with exercise, but I kept going regularly, for years. At 16, this stupid girl my age also grown up in the jws, who was technically a close "friend" and she was for lack of better words a real hoe, in and out of the congregation, started coming to the gym too and was flirting with everyone. At some point, I took my distances, not even because of spirituality, just her flirty and egocentric ways were getting on my nerves as I was going there to actually do work, no flirt with people. Anyway, she got jealous of something and went to tell her mother who then told mine that I was flirting with some guy. And she "worried" for me. Full disclosure, I may have been as he was my teenage years' HUGE crush, but I never made a fool of myself, never even kissed the guy (definitely regret that LOL)...anyway, whatever I was doing it was not reprehensible. However, next thing you know, I get an elders visit and then a "local needs" talk.
Needless to say her ass got cut off from my life there and then. Even later when we were both out, she tried to reconnect with me and I was like nah....don't have time for you egocentric ass.
Then at 19YO almost 20, I moved to another country because of this snitching culture, and still they managed to harass me in the new country, boy, they must have been busy, as with a different language, I can only imagine the amount of people involved in keeping a tab on my life as they were interacting with the local elders in my new congregations. I received one pastoral visit, and that was enough for me.
Yep, pretty much same exact culture in the United Pentecostal Church Int as well. Three decades and several congregations showed us that. and when we left, we were majorly shunned.
When I was around 18, I once visited some of my JW family in another town and went to their Kingdom Hall with them. When I saw my favorite uncle standing near the front of the hall, I ran to give him a hug.
When my uncle saw me approaching, he quickly shouted, "Hello, niece who I have not seen in a long, long time!"
I was confused until I found out that a sister from his KH had recently snitched on him because she saw him, an unmarried man, in a car with a mystery woman. The woman, as it turns out, was his biological sister who attended a different congregation. Since then he felt it appropriate to loudly announce familial ties before engaging in any social or vaguely affectionate behavior with any of his female family members.
Ooooo, I’m traveling and just getting started on this doozy! I’ll start with the idea that snitching is about exposing someone... usually to protect your own assets. Then there’s speaking truth to the tune of I will not abide in a lie to protect you. Isn’t that character-based refusal to live in lies why we’re all here? Big difference between snitching and lying. (And I’m in the legal profession!) Ya’ll just wait til my plane lands.
I’m about to land this plane myself.
The last time they tried it when I was like eighteen....I snapped and say " nooo talk to me noow ,I'm not waiting after the meeting" they had the dumb look!
Thats right! Put your foot down on them elders! LOL
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 there is another point you forgot Worldly relatives love too snitch too i had jw friends tell me there relatives snitch and called the kingdom or threaten too call my elders or pastor lol
I was so surprised to see how many of my childhood friends in the 'truth' would know so much about adult people's business. It would be their parents who had gained the trust of a person studying, telling their kids what was told to them in confidence. In one way it was good to warn kids about dangerous people, but on the other hand it made them little gossipers.
@Elle Morgan Yes. Many of the JW youngsters have been way too exposed to adult matter by way of Gossip...smh
I hadn't thought much about "snitching." But way back when, you kept your homosexuality secret. I got disfellowshipped for homosexuality and that just sort of advertised to everybody I was gay. I didn't think that was fair. I could no longer hide that fact. It was like being "outed." It was horrible. Even after getting reinstated I couldn't deal with being openly "gay" in the congregation. I was afraid of going to the rest room for fear some adolescent would get caught in the rest room with me and cause people to worry. Plus those were the early days of the AIDS scare and I had to note in my reinstatement letter that I was free of AIDS and so as not to worry. It was just too much. I couldn't become "active" again until I moved far, far away from the area I was known in. But it was interesting that I was not openly gay in my private life and my work life, but I was at the Kingdom Hall. A sick situation that didn't work. I couldn't function in the congregation. Fortunately, I'm free from that now.
Thanks for posting!!
Robbie Dudley WOW! That is so terrible Robbie. Im sorry you had to deal with that. And at that time period, oh man im sure people were acting all kinds of foolish towards you. Glad you’re free!
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 Thank you. You are so refreshing. I have a good relationship with myself and with God, so I'm thankful.
I know this happens with the JW's, for it happen to me and yes I was shunned just for asking questions.
Oh shit man! You can't be asking no questions! That's the worst thing you can do. Much worse that smoking weed. Asking questions is somewhere between fornication and smoking.
your videos are fantastic. Thanks for your addition to the ex-JW experience, healing, and sharing. The more voices the better!
Sharing scriptures on your RUclipss gives me feelings of ptsd. 😬 I wonder if I’m the only person who feels like this. Feels like I’m hearing “a talk”.
I think its honestly a force of habit:/
He was quoting certain scriptures to show what the Bible recommends vs what JWs do. Which shows a contradiction. The Bible does not say go report your findings directly to the Elders. It says you should go straight to the person(s) and hash it out that way. He was just trying to show the contradiction.
Sorry! Tbh it kinda triggered me too when i was watching the video back. I try not to be too JW-like anymore, but i felt like using the scriptures helped for context in that case.
I was raised Pentecostal Christian. I listen to get an idea what my Brother goes through. He’s the only JW in our immediate family. Thanks for sharing.
Robin D. Phillips thanks for watching! I love when ppl of other faiths watch to try and get an understanding of the JW cult.
I guess just to show how early the indoctrination is when i was like 9 or 10 my friend snitched on me to my mother because i watched a Cartoon called Yu gi oh when his parents didnt let him, thats all i got lol
What is the cartoon about?
Miss Bailey Too Yu-Gi-Oh was a Japanese manga that had magic and monsters. So it was a big no-no in the JW world.
Funny how they're so against things that feature creatures that don't exist like monsters as if the bible never used one of those as a form of representation.
"Snitching culture" is a great new expression which accurately describes something that happens regularly in the J-dubs NWO "religion".
You're just 'bitter'. 😜 l'm joking! 😜
@@amazingbibleantiquities7221 LOL! I might be a little bitter. I still have family on the inside and wish they could be free of their cages. i miss them :/
@@Esther-1914 Seriously, the only solution l know of is relentless prayer. 🤔
I hollered when you "sneezed"! LMAO!!!! You a mess!
Amanda Henderson allergies 😏😂
The Irregular Pioneer Channel might want to try some allergy meds. Lol!!
I’ll admit I snitched re: a possible impropriety with a minor. Yes, it was through gossip. A sister called to warn me about a brother who may have molested his niece (Sister was a friend of the family, also witnesses). I had a daughter a bit younger. After talking to her, I was shocked because she told me stuff about this brother I had no clue about. Needless to say, I ran to the elders and met with them. They “praise me” for basically keeping it “in house” and for not spreading slanderous gossip also. In hindsight, I think I played into the hush game of hiding this kind of behavior in the congregation. Made sense, why several years back this brother was deleted as an elder and never gave parts. AND, during this time, the brother’s “home computer“ was somehow stolen with all it’s contents (before cloud storage). Even though his comments were very “elderly” and he came off as very spiritual, he was never given privileges. When I left, he also had a very heavy drinking problem. When there is info control, you just don’t know what you don’t know. SMH in disgust, because I looked both elders in the eye and asked, “Can you assure me that my children are safe in this congregation with this brother?”
Jimothy Lopez unfortunately an all too common story in the organization smh
my brother snitched on me to the elders when i was first fading, and i realized i couldn’t trust him anymore. dark times yall
I snitched on so many people until I was PIMO, then I quit. There was something about it that felt good, which was just plain old self-righteousness.
Matt, just discovering your videos. Lawd, me & my sister used to call my mother the "JW Police" and "Snitchy-Poo" because she was on the lookout and was going to report you to the elders. She even turned me in a couple of times. There was an elder who was on drugs. My mother with all of her righteous indignation, repeatedly turned him in. He was disfellowshipped EVENTUALLY. But his grown children still have bad feelings towards my mom today (decades later) for turning their father in so many times. I'm like hell, she turned me in. The snitching and shunning were bad enough, but mums the word regarding Bro. Chester Molester.
my 96 year old grandmother got called in to the elders when my disfellowshipped niece (her great granddaughter!) posted a picture of them together on Facebook. Someone actually printed off the picture and anonymously gave it to the elders. I still dream of finding that person and thrashing them.
This one made me LOL. Great video. You know you and wifey were gone 20 minutes - you must have been fornicating!! 😂😂 so silly. You really are a great story teller and super funny.
Leslie Hopcroft thanks! I could never let the cult take away my sense of humor 😂
I was out with my sister she was visiting me from another state one of the brothers from my church saw us and ran straight to one of the leaders of my church.. I told that brother were to go..
I went on the radio about something political and the phone lines were overloaded as bored sisters called each other. Twenty years ago. Now find it embarrassing to confess ever having been involved...
I was involved with a snitching religion once, I only asked three questions to a member, the member went straight to the minister without my knowledge and told the minister about the questions I was asking, the minister and one of his pets, both came at me like a runaway freight train. Among many other things, they told me any questions that I wish to ask don't ask any of the brethren, ask the minister. I ask questions to whoever I want, I replied. Do you want me to disfellowship you? I said... OH...No! ...don't bother, I'm leaving all by myself. Good-bye! I simply walked away, and never looked back again.
A few weeks later I was told, that that minister was shifted to another location. That minister will never forget my name because before my fallout with the church the minister and his wife had another child, a baby boy, and named him Benjamin.
Brother, I love your Videos !!! Spot On !!! I know because I'm an ex Elder/Congregation Secretary 😃 Born and Raised in and Thankful I'm Out !!!!!
Larry Jolly thanks so much Larry! Im glad you’re out too.
It seems the elders are treated very much like the priest in the Catholic Church someone to go to and confess all our sins to. the differences priest don’t judge but elders do. what part of the Bible states that elders have the right to condemn , judge and shun people?
Sky Wind it doesnt give the “elders” which is a term only used in the visions of revelation, not in the 1st century christian congregation, the right to judge. But the JW’s have billions of explanations and “principles” to tell you why they believe it does.
Hey Matt one thing I forgot to mention in my post was that usually the JWs who run to the elders all of the time get their come uppings. That pioneer sister that I mentioned who ran to the elders on the sister who had the abortion, got hers when somebody went to the elders on her pioneer husband. He was having an affair and was disfellowshipped. Her MS brothers both got deleted as MS and reproved and Disfellowshipped. She moved away in shame. The congo was so happy to see her go.
OH SNAP!
I got thrown under the bus by my best friend, brother and even my mother. For stupid things! If they gave travel points for being in the back room I would've made a bundle.
Love your stories and always look forward to your next uploads.
Peter Edwards thanks Peter!
I saw it so much I never told on no body I was a publisher and I hated the way they acted
I was taken into second school several times , to explain lots of things in was suppose to have said ! But the Elders would never say who told them the information .
After my ex and I separated(he left me bc he wasn’t happy oh wait no he slept with another woman) anyway I was walking out the gym talking to a mechanic and we walked right past my ex husband. He called my name and I was like ‘oh what are you doing here? We get into a verbal altercation, he says, “I’m going to tell the elders you’re talking to a worldly man”.. I told him I don’t care who you tell, those men are not GOD... I was so angry I was spitting fire... how is it you slept with another woman but you’re threatening to tell the elders on me?,..laughable.....
I stayed getting snitched on
Yes, the gossiping is something else!! For real, they even had to name it, " having a discussion". 😂 My ex- husband's Uncle was an Elder and let me tell you....we got all the juice! He would come around and have a sip or two, or three, or four, and end up telling his dear sister, (my ex mother in law) EVERYTHING that went on in a judicial hearing. It took us less than five minutes to get it out of her.😂
In my KH, snitches got stitches! I never ratted or did they on me, but I am sure some of the older, more zealous ones did rat out others. I guess it also depends on what hall you went to... and who your elders are.
Hilarous. My NY Bruh. They snitch even when you are disfellowshipped! Go figure. Peace
I am proud to say I only snitched once. Dude wouldn’t haven gotten snitched in if he hadn’t been a jerk to me though! Lol I was otherwise the best NON snitcher. Mum was the word. People snitched on me quite a bit though.
Holistic Hottie im okay with snitching on jerks 😂
I got snitched on for drinking a bottle water at the Kingdom Hall and 2 elders pulled me aside and told me
One World - What was their reasoning for why you couldn't have water?
Ina Conder one of the elders wives pointed me out to her elder husband and he and his other elder friend told me not to drink water bottles at the Kingdom Hall no more. Plus that Kingdom Hall was very conservative
Oh, that's right. You're not allowed to be human. The other side of this is that they are too busy being petty instead of paying attention to talk being given by the speaker. I don't recall any scriptures that said you can't drink water when you need it or go to bathroom to relieve yourself while the meeting is in progress. Bunch of desperate people feeling powerless and will behave as irrationally as possible just to have some control over someone no matter how pointless it is. Sorry about the rant but it just makes me so mad.
Loving your channel!
Lol I snitched on someone too. The good old cult days!!
For myself, I hated the idea of reporting "sins" to the elders, but absolutely believed my eternal life and that of the "sinner's:" depended on it. There were times as a young person that I gave an erring JW the chance to mother confess to the elder or I would report. Dreadful. It went against my true self and not was life everything else as a JW for me: driven by fear, guilt and shame. I hated it but I obeyed.
The craziness of this is illustrated in the fact that for several years my sister (and best friend) and I both no longer believed it was the Truth, and yet never even hinted at this to each other for fear of losing each other, our mother, and all the congregation. Crazy! Might as well have been in North Korea!
Love this! I subscribed. All true right here.
this is the reason i stay has far as possible from all JWS apart from my family members
When I was 18 I threatened my mom that I would snitch on her for dating a worldly man. I never did snitch. Just the satisfaction of telling her I would tell the elders was enough for me lol. Up until 18 she had been unbearably strict with who I was allowed to associate with how long I was allowed to leave the house for. Bad association this bad association that. I was only allowed to leave the house for 15min on rollerblades; If I came back 1min late I was grounded. Needless to say I was grounded on a weekly bases. So I wanted payback lol. Anyway I never intended to actually do it but my aunt ended up doing it. So for the next 2 years until she married him there was public needs talks (I think thats what they were called) talking about divorce (a woman in our hall was getting a divorce) and dating worldly people. These 2 talks would alternate every week until the divorce was final and until my mom got married. And I would nudge my mom every time there would be a talk about dating worldly people and double raise my eyebrows and wisper in her ear "they are talking about you mom" lollll. I know I was petty loll.
i can appreciate some good pettiness lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I bet yo mom was pissed...
I do have a friend who does this practice. For the most part, what the other person was doing was none of his business. After snitching, the person who got snitched found out who it was and he got into real trouble. To the point that it got physical with family members. I really don't consider this to a be a good practice, you can really get into trouble for getting into other people businesses. Mind your own business and continue own with your life.
You keep it real when you say "keep it real" my brother!
Yea I got called into the backroom some years ago when still in. I had a book put out by the Mormons that had been blanket mailed. I thought it was funny but someone turned me in when they saw me with it. AND at this point I'd already started questioning the WhORG and had began watching the ARC hearings. After asking me about the stupid book, the next thing out of those dimwit "elders" mouths was "How do you feel about the governing body?" I said "How do you all feel about the Australian Royal Commission hearings?" Ughhh, "we can't answer that question." "Well then I can't answer your's either." Meeting adjourned.
You are a New Yorker like me. As a matter of fact, I used to work in College Point Queens and now in Maspeth, I come from Brooklyn
Shunned non-member Copperfeld nice! My mom was from Brooklyn
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 What part of Brooklyn was your mother from? I live in Bayridge.
@@shunnednon-membercopperfel6843 Mom was from Bed-Stuy
@@theirregularpioneerchannel1804 That is clear on the other side from where I live. Brooklyn is so big. The city is closer to me than Bed-Stuy. People don't realize how big Brooklyn is who live out of state.
I’m being told that when I miss a meeting to go and see my dying brother that I’m putting my dying brother first and not my meeting
I’ve also been told that I need to be balanced on work and spiritual activity
It took being told all this BS that I realize that this individual is messed in the head
There is really good people that are jw I just became close to a real air head
I can tell you some real experiences of ones who misuse their elder positions And don’t follow what they preach / teach
Yup. I got snitched on when I was 18 by a 12 year old who saw me getting very friendly with a non witness male. She told her mom who at least called me and questioned me. I denied it, told her her kid was mistaken. Honestly, I never snitched because I didn't want anyone airing out my dirty laundry.
I'm happy to say that I never snitched without telling the person first. I'm ashamed to say that twice I snitched because two didn't go to the elders when I gave them the opportunity to do so. Ashamed is not the right word. I'm actually nauseated with myself for doing so. Looking back, I hate the person I was during my Regular Pioneer years. I was a jack-ass.
You speak the truth about the so called truth i stand with u i too was a baptized brother and I could go back but I whish not to because as they say the light about why not to go back just keeps get brighter
I got snitched on and so did some of my family members... the JayDubbs love looking like they are better than Sister Noname and Brotha noname. and, the person that snitch on me, turned around and somebody snitched on them! LOL!!! im so glad i never got baptised.
Facts. Some of the witnesses wanted to hear my name called on the stage for the longest kept running to the elders and telling the dumbest things they saw me do
I remember girls in the cong were mad we didn’t invite them that they said we tried to sneak into the movies to see a rates r movie, mind you we were 18 but tried to sneak in 😂😂😂 got taken to the back and all, my dad was not happy and was like he’s 18 and if he wanted to see it he would have lol