Just LOVE that slow takeaway. I'm working on incorporating that into my game. I have a weird twitch in my takeaway that I can't get rid of, and a slowing it down like Collin really helps.
I never noticed the weak left hand, strong right hand grip. That's seems to be why he needs to bow the wrist so much. Personally I think few moving parts are better in the long run but you can't argue with his abilities to make it all work. Will it last though?
In general…. Certain wrist conditions match up with certain grips. Because him and Rahmbo use weaker grips, and hit the ball with their body rotation, they don’t rely on their hands to square the face(Rory). The “glove logo down” through impact gives them shaft lean, and a very stable face, without having to feel like they’re rolling, or flipping it closed. There are different ways to create speed, and square the face. I’d say this is a pretty good way to do it. Keep in mind…. The more open your hips are at impact, and the more right side bend that you create through impact, the later the club wants to release(or, roll over). Try it in slow motion, and you’ll see what I mean… With open hips, and right side bend, you’ll be able to keep the face square to the arc for much longer, post impact. However, if you go through impact with square hips, and more level shoulders, the toe immediately starts rolling over the heel through the hitting zone. A persons hip, and torso flexibility will determine how much hip rotation, and right side bend that you can achieve. However, I’d say all amateurs would benefit from having more of both(open hips, and right side bend) through impact. Note…. If you play with a weak grip, and a cupped left wrist, forget everything I just said. You’ll be REQUIRED to have a flippy release, with no body rotation through the ball. This will result in iffy contact, and a high, weak ball flight. Good luck with that.
@@jamiesloan7259 I'm old school, fewer moving parts. If you have to rely on the same angle of wrist bowing to hit a good shot you're going to have issues at some point when you're timing is off. IMO simple is better.
@@Pulse2AM I appreciate you commenting back. Golf is a very individual game. Definitely “to each his own”. What is your skill level, and distance? If you don’t mind me asking…
@@jamiesloan7259 I'm 65, I started playing at 7 yrs. old. When I played a few times a month i was a legit 7 handicap on tournament rated courses. I think since I haven't played in years with a few weeks of practice I would be back to shooting 78 to 82 even at my age because I keep myself in really good shape. I went to the range last month and still hit the ball like I did in my late 40's.
Logically if your takeaway is outside your downswing will come more from the inside😂 i mean it might sound cool but he just does that because it feels good for him, will definetly not work for 99% of people
Different countries. One is from new zealand the other from south africa, similar vowels is probably what you hear, can understand how you think they sound the same to an untrained ear
Wrist bow is flexion. Wrist cupping is extension. The respected narrator a masterful and influential interpreter of the swing . But he is backwards on his simple anatomical direction terminology. Like learning land navigation from a teacher who has their left and right mixed up.
Someone needs to explain to Mark the difference between extension and flexion. A bowed left wrist at the top is NOT in extension but in flexion. If he didn't say it so many times I would have guessed he just misspoked. Other than that, nice analysis.
Wrist flexion is bowing the wrist. wrist extension is revving a motorcycle this is universally accepted anatomical movement terminology and this guy has it backwards. Repeatedly. With coinciding video demonstration. He's misleading people and they've done the same thing with supination in the past it's annoying and makes golf even more confusing.
I'm going on 50 years this year and just recently "copied" his swing, except for the wrist bow. It's paying off huge dividends. My ball flight is strong and higher then ever before. I used to fade the ball way too much, now it's pretty much point and shoot. 30 years too late, but hey, better late than never.
Whoever is talking in this video. Thank you for your insights. My swing has improved because of it. And for that, you sir, are "THE MAN", or whatever your golf bros refer to you on the course. ♠🎯
BOWING THE WRIST IS FLEXION NOT EXTENSION. Narrator needs to take a simple anatomical course if he's going to use anatomical terminology. This is like watching someone give directions who has their left and right mixed up.
I also have a slow backswing, some say they'll fall asleep on my backswing and at a stage I was thinking of speeding it up, BUT then I saw Colin Morikawa swing and now they slow Backswing is here to stay.
Sorry, but this is rubbish commentary. I wasted 15 years of my life trying to get into body positions like he's explaining. Swing the club, not your body. If you do the latter, the club will be late every single time. Then you throw the club + early extend to desperately catch the club up. Watch the full speed swings, he's swinging the club quickly through and the body is only supporting it.
The big thing I see in his and many modern swings and ways to grip the clubs is club face control, he rotates the face as little as possible going from closed to open. The only problem is possible left wrist injury
@@RedDragonfly205 If youre talking about opposite hands then yes, you cant do one without the other as the hands are performing opposite motions. I'm saying that in the video at 5:41 he's saying that his left hand is extended when its clearly flexed
That bowed wrist is dumb and a compensation for bad face control, and setting yourself up to injury. Don't do it. Bow your wrist, feel the tension...it's anti-anatomical to do that.
Yeah tell Rahm, DJ, Morikawa, and Hovland they have a dumb compensation for poor face control. DJ has been doing it a long time so I don’t think longevity can be argued either. Every swing is a series of compensations or everyone would be swinging the exact same way.
@@colonelangus3826 DJ has been doing it as a kid and just stuck with it. You can't argue with what I'm saying. It makes no sense anatomically. You would never throw a ball or frisbee or anything else that way. The point is this garbage shouldn't be taught - there's no reason to teach it or to ever try doing it. If you were a kid like DJ and just did it and it works, then fine, but leave it alone otherwise. People are on ranges every day trying to do this and it's making them take two steps backwards in improving their swing.
There is a golf teacher from japan that has a real slow back swing and basically shows that its all in the down swing, cant remember his name but he’s a big proponent to asian slow swings
@@Tony-Jabroni Flexion is when you bend your wrist forward, as if you are easing off on a motorcycle throttle. It is clearly what Collin does with his left wrist throughout his swing. Extension is when you bend your wrist backwards (often referred to as cupping in golf instruction), as if you are hitting the throttle on a motorcycle.
You mentioned his left wrist was in extension at the top and through the hitting area, but extension is the opposite direction or cupped. His wrist is supinated.
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Thanks, Mark, Great breakdown of a beautiful swing! Looks so easy in slow motion. ⛳
Just LOVE that slow takeaway. I'm working on incorporating that into my game. I have a weird twitch in my takeaway that I can't get rid of, and a slowing it down like Collin really helps.
Was waiting for this!
The lead wrist is FLEXED, not Extended, as you keep saying
Blah blah we get what he's trying to say
he reminds me so much of a young Tiger.
Same
I never noticed the weak left hand, strong right hand grip. That's seems to be why he needs to bow the wrist so much. Personally I think few moving parts are better in the long run but you can't argue with his abilities to make it all work. Will it last though?
he doesnt have to bow his wrist if u watch his junior clips he doesnt hve a super bowed wrist
In general…. Certain wrist conditions match up with certain grips. Because him and Rahmbo use weaker grips, and hit the ball with their body rotation, they don’t rely on their hands to square the face(Rory). The “glove logo down” through impact gives them shaft lean, and a very stable face, without having to feel like they’re rolling, or flipping it closed. There are different ways to create speed, and square the face. I’d say this is a pretty good way to do it. Keep in mind…. The more open your hips are at impact, and the more right side bend that you create through impact, the later the club wants to release(or, roll over). Try it in slow motion, and you’ll see what I mean… With open hips, and right side bend, you’ll be able to keep the face square to the arc for much longer, post impact. However, if you go through impact with square hips, and more level shoulders, the toe immediately starts rolling over the heel through the hitting zone. A persons hip, and torso flexibility will determine how much hip rotation, and right side bend that you can achieve. However, I’d say all amateurs would benefit from having more of both(open hips, and right side bend) through impact. Note…. If you play with a weak grip, and a cupped left wrist, forget everything I just said. You’ll be REQUIRED to have a flippy release, with no body rotation through the ball. This will result in iffy contact, and a high, weak ball flight. Good luck with that.
@@jamiesloan7259 I'm old school, fewer moving parts. If you have to rely on the same angle of wrist bowing to hit a good shot you're going to have issues at some point when you're timing is off. IMO simple is better.
@@Pulse2AM I appreciate you commenting back. Golf is a very individual game. Definitely “to each his own”. What is your skill level, and distance? If you don’t mind me asking…
@@jamiesloan7259 I'm 65, I started playing at 7 yrs. old. When I played a few times a month i was a legit 7 handicap on tournament rated courses. I think since I haven't played in years with a few weeks of practice I would be back to shooting 78 to 82 even at my age because I keep myself in really good shape. I went to the range last month and still hit the ball like I did in my late 40's.
Logically if your takeaway is outside your downswing will come more from the inside😂 i mean it might sound cool but he just does that because it feels good for him, will definetly not work for 99% of people
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How can I hit like him
Backswing is i think key for collin. good backswing, good right arm setup will allow an easier path in the downswing
Practice
The commentator sounds like Taika Waititi
Different countries. One is from new zealand the other from south africa, similar vowels is probably what you hear, can understand how you think they sound the same to an untrained ear
Great analysis. Invaluable information for a beginner.
Wrist bow is flexion. Wrist cupping is extension.
The respected narrator a masterful and influential interpreter of the swing . But he is backwards on his simple anatomical direction terminology. Like learning land navigation from a teacher who has their left and right mixed up.
he talks like tiger
It’s the socal accent
That’s exactly why I’m watching this video 😆 I noticed it in the last interview I saw
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Someone needs to explain to Mark the difference between extension and flexion. A bowed left wrist at the top is NOT in extension but in flexion. If he didn't say it so many times I would have guessed he just misspoked. Other than that, nice analysis.
He always said is bowed and everyone knew exactly what he was saying. Do you spell check texts too?
@@chuckyz2 A spelling error is the right idea with the wrong execution. Saying flexion is extension is completely wrong.
Yeah this bothered me! How can you get that wrong in his position
Wrist flexion is bowing the wrist.
wrist extension is revving a motorcycle this is universally accepted anatomical movement terminology and this guy has it backwards. Repeatedly. With coinciding video demonstration. He's misleading people and they've done the same thing with supination in the past it's annoying and makes golf even more confusing.
Golf is hard. Biomechanics is harder. 😂
I'm going on 50 years this year and just recently "copied" his swing, except for the wrist bow. It's paying off huge dividends. My ball flight is strong and higher then ever before. I used to fade the ball way too much, now it's pretty much point and shoot. 30 years too late, but hey, better late than never.
Right. I’m almost 58. And I’ve been crushing the ball as good as I ever have. And I started at 12 years old.
did you take any shots off the scorecard?
@@doughboi007 we normally take our shots in a glass. Off the scorecard, the Tequila will have traces of a taste of paper.
Whoever is talking in this video. Thank you for your insights. My swing has improved because of it. And for that, you sir, are "THE MAN", or whatever your golf bros refer to you on the course. ♠🎯
mark immelman. you know his brother, and mark has a podcast called on the mark which i listen to which is all about instruction.
@@taylort123 His podcast is legend....I hear "Synovus, the bank of here." in my dreams
@@taylort123 Thanks a lot!
BOWING THE WRIST IS FLEXION NOT EXTENSION.
Narrator needs to take a simple anatomical course if he's going to use anatomical terminology. This is like watching someone give directions who has their left and right mixed up.
I also have a slow backswing, some say they'll fall asleep on my backswing and at a stage I was thinking of speeding it up, BUT then I saw Colin Morikawa swing and now they slow Backswing is here to stay.
2:19 if you didnt erase that red line, you would see how much lateral movement there was on the downswing....pretty misleading
Stance,grip,swing path , swing speed =results
Love his swing so much.
One of my favorite ball strikers.
Sorry, but this is rubbish commentary. I wasted 15 years of my life trying to get into body positions like he's explaining. Swing the club, not your body. If you do the latter, the club will be late every single time. Then you throw the club + early extend to desperately catch the club up.
Watch the full speed swings, he's swinging the club quickly through and the body is only supporting it.
Love his swing, the slow & focused backswing. Hideki does something similar
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Trever is states extension for flexion, but otherwise great analyst
Trail arm inside the lead arm at impact is very important.
The big thing I see in his and many modern swings and ways to grip the clubs is club face control, he rotates the face as little as possible going from closed to open. The only problem is possible left wrist injury
Someone knew i would say this... im not a fan of this swing.
So much back arc needed to reroute the club down.
5 years and he breaks.
Add to video, at the moment of impact, OGF 12 Bear Back. Tks,
the fact that he keeps saying extension instead of flexion almost discredits the whole analysis
How are two different terms both correct? If you google hand flexion and extension, you can clearly see that his left hand is in flexion.
@@RedDragonfly205 If youre talking about opposite hands then yes, you cant do one without the other as the hands are performing opposite motions. I'm saying that in the video at 5:41 he's saying that his left hand is extended when its clearly flexed
Cool et j'aime bien golf ⛳
Wow! Great swing to copy fosho.
Ok, Trevor iimmermen analysis is my favorite. He is spot on
Man that was a tough break going a hair long on the playoff hole
What is the name of commentator?
Putts like a 5 handicap
6:06 full flexion*
That bowed wrist is dumb and a compensation for bad face control, and setting yourself up to injury. Don't do it. Bow your wrist, feel the tension...it's anti-anatomical to do that.
Yeah tell Rahm, DJ, Morikawa, and Hovland they have a dumb compensation for poor face control. DJ has been doing it a long time so I don’t think longevity can be argued either. Every swing is a series of compensations or everyone would be swinging the exact same way.
@@colonelangus3826 It is a compensation that they got used to and they made it work. Doesn't mean you should be doing it. It's prone to injury too.
@@colonelangus3826 DJ has been doing it as a kid and just stuck with it. You can't argue with what I'm saying. It makes no sense anatomically. You would never throw a ball or frisbee or anything else that way. The point is this garbage shouldn't be taught - there's no reason to teach it or to ever try doing it. If you were a kid like DJ and just did it and it works, then fine, but leave it alone otherwise. People are on ranges every day trying to do this and it's making them take two steps backwards in improving their swing.
Great commentary!
The commentary was too complicated in my opinion
I love these new analysis videos
I can't tell if he's southern or British
Idk who this guy is, but that's a south african accent
Is it weird to be aroused by someone’s swing?
Nah it wud be weird if u came lol
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I know it's weird, but lots of Asian players have slow tempo back swings. Idk that is...
Lots of noodles
I realize that too
There is a golf teacher from japan that has a real slow back swing and basically shows that its all in the down swing, cant remember his name but he’s a big proponent to asian slow swings
I believe its something to do with ironically kawaswing, which comes from baseball, probably where a lot of the slow swings originate from
His left wrist goes into flexion, not extension.
Difference?
@@Tony-Jabroni if you google wrist flexion vs extension its quite obvious
@@nowndalesale8518 i was hoping it would be explained to me
@@Tony-Jabroni Flexion is when you bend your wrist forward, as if you are easing off on a motorcycle throttle. It is clearly what Collin does with his left wrist throughout his swing. Extension is when you bend your wrist backwards (often referred to as cupping in golf instruction), as if you are hitting the throttle on a motorcycle.
@@Tony-Jabroni Immelman gets it exactly wrong here, about a dozen times :)
Thank you 😊 💓
Congrats for being 2023 ZOZO champion, Collin!
is Collin still hitting a draw? Or did he get is fade back?
You mentioned his left wrist was in extension at the top and through the hitting area, but extension is the opposite direction or cupped. His wrist is supinated.
It's in flexion, the opposite of extension.
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Trevor Immelmann talks weird
The analyst us Trevor's older brother Mark.
Isnt bowed lead wrist in flexion rather than extension as mark repeatedly says?
Someone should give him a physio lesson.