Update: Future Mrs Zoomer did this bracket and she got Lutheran due to her Midwestern Lutheran heritage and veneration of Bach (also my video is not getting dislike-bombed, the return dislike extension is not accurate)
I'm not offended by his ignorance, just annoyed that he refuses to correct it 🤷🏼♀️ Once again, Reformed Baptists, particularly Covenental Reformed Baptists, believe *almost identical things* to Presbyterians regarding soteriology, ordinances, and covenental theology. We just believe that the birth of the new covenant is the new birth by the Spirit. And yes, the term "Reformed Baptist" is newer, but it's hardly a new concept.
I'm in this camp too. And like he doesn't even acknowledge ANY of the Baptist contributions to music either... Like almost all the roots of American country music was footed by Baptist musicians and singers... Starting to think he's got a hatred for Baptists just because he wants to... He hides behind "the differences" of presby and bapst but truth is there ain't too much different when you look at the bigger picture..
@@grammaurai6843 It was "particular Baptists" before 1960-1980 until you guys decided to hijack the name of another protestant tradition and pretend you were just a congregational version of it (we already had the Congregationalists). Besides that, your view on Baptism is very different and as far as i know your Covenant Theology is also different. I'm saying that for the sake of what i believe is intellectual honesty, but Reformed Baptist preachers had a great impact on me especially when i was converting and i believe their association with Presbyterians actually helped PCA and other Presbyterian churches remain theologically conservative.
@@jeremykoeppe7949 it's subconscious. The relationship between RBs and Presbyterians is like that of Lutherans and Presbyterians. We're cool with them, they dislike us, often for things we don't even believe.
@@PerturaboIWthat’s wild. I’ll never become a Catholic. Respect them? Of course. Think I’m eating Jesus’ literal body and blood and priests can’t be married? No way.
Truth pills are hard to swallow. Every post catho protestant was a product of the abuse of the Catholic Church. Hard to predict protestants existing had the catholics not continue to drive wedges between folks. @Raxel501
@@heidehho6191except that can be applied to any denomination’s worse elements lol RZ doesn’t jump online to shoot some potshots at Coptics or Methodists or even Non Denominationals every week lmao
@@redeemedzoomer6053 noooo! no respect for the papacy! so many don't believe in justification by faith! many led astray. we need to face this for the sake of preaching the Gospel!
On the Catholic view of predestination: “God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end” (CCC 1037)
God is outside time so His final descision on us is already made. This judgement was made based on if we are in God's Grace or not at the moment of our death, but this just seems like an argument of semantics. Traditionally we Catholics would use the language of predestionation to describe this but it has become less popular since Calvenists use similar language.
@@bobskanal The idea (although I don't agree with it) is that he is subject to time as much as we are, although his omniscience and omnipotence allows him to behave as one outside of time. The reasoning for it is that all of God's free-will decisions must 1. Not be true at one point in time and 2. Be true at another point in time, since that's how decisions work. An example of that is Jesus choosing to heal a blind man because of that man's faith, but this example can be discredited due to Jesus's humanity. For this reason we use God the Father's actions in judgement/covenant towards man.
@@mk4630 The problem is that we say The Son was "born of the Father" but also that he is eternal. Birth implies that there is a time when you did not exist, and yet Jesus is eternal. So maybe that logic can also be applied to decisions (there is no time before God made a decision because he is eternal). Plus, we for us decisions take time because we need to gather information and take time to decide. An all-knowing and all-powerful being would already know everything. So maybe God's judgement for us is not something he "decides" but something he has always known.
You guys gotta challenge RZ on some of his stuff. The EO were the bulwark of Christianity, and basically was under siege which protected Europe from Islam. Also look up the history of Byzantium and the episode about the imperial republic. It shows how Byzantium had the best govt system as in fairness for regular people
16:00 I'm a Catholic from Argentina and I don't really agree. I don't think this can be blamed on the Church not making enough of an effort to spread the Gospel, it does, and the Gospel is read at every mass. Plus, you began saying you would judge a denomination by its "traditional version", not its liberal version. Folk catholicism is not an accepted form of Catholicism, but the effect of being unable to fully erase Native American paganism.
Not every bigot, ever truly abandons bigotry...took some obscure people with exposure to Catholicism and holding on to their other beliefs and decided that's Catholicism despite having said he's evaluating the traditional belief
@@CorvusLeukosThis is more in Mexico, but "Santa Muerte" or "Saint Death." It's a pagan syncretic belief in a figure who is treated and viewed like a pagan goddess rather than a normal saint by her believers, even though they dress it in Catholic aesthetics of Saint statues and *claim* it's Catholic. The mainstream Catholic church has tried and continues to crack down on it, but it survives underground because the Cartels love Santa Muerte.
Haha, I’m Russian Orthodox so I had to look that up! Christ is risen indeed. Here, since you took time to reply to my comment (again 10/10 creator) here’s a saying to add to your repertoire. Hristos voskrece!
@@Pomni740give up kid, you've posted this exact comment 10000 times, I appreciate you're dedication to your faith, but give it a rest, HE IS NOT MORMON! God bless
Both are not nearly comparable to the British Empire. Sweden was a regional power in Europe until the great northern war, they barely spread Christianity, if any for example. Germany was almost half Catholic but the Protestants were the dominant group, so I guess it could count and in their few colonies missionary efforts were a thing but it is just so little. The Catholic Empire of Spain or the Anglican Empire of Britain left a completely different level of a mark on history.
@@BeWe1510 You took my comment too seriously. I didn’t try to compare them to Britain. It’s literally a meme of Sweden and Germany reacting to being called “not mighty”. Don’t overthink it! 😂
What you said about Methodists being more 'doers' and Presbyterians being more 'thinkers' rings true for me. As a Methodist with a deep interest in theology and really understanding and examining my beliefs, I find that a lot of my reading is Presbyterian & Calvinist authors (despite the fact that I'm very much an Arminian). I think the great thing about Methodism *is* that focus on doing though. We're always out there spreading the gospel and doing good in the Kingdom (or at least, we're supposed to be). Methodism was formed on the principle of bringing the most needy back into the church at a time when Anglicanism was failing to reach them. You really do need both, though -- the theological & apologetic prowess, and the practical application of Christianity in the world -- our traditions could learn a lot from each other.
Same here. The school I attend is a Catholic school, but if the sculptures of Jesus and Mary weren’t there, as well as the prayers that would be played through a speaker at a set time, you wouldn’t be able to tell. Only the sisters and a friend of mine are the only ones I know that take their faith seriously. It’s sad.
@kashmirandal6282 I pray the Lord grants you His strength, that you and your friend can be a light to those in the school. That they may see Jesus in you and be guided towards the faith. In Jesus's name, Amen.
@kashmirandal6282 Some people just need to know about the faith There are many logical arguments for God's existence and specifically the Christian God To say some If anything i say intrigues you, I advise looking at the video series why we can trust the bible by DLM Christian Lifestyles, as well as the video by Reedemed Zoomer one 10 arguments for God. But the way I see it If everything had a cause, nothing would exist because before we could get to the present, an infinite amount of events would need to happen first, which is impossible. So there needs to be a definite start. Since life comes from life and not nonlife, that definite start would be a thinking feeling life, God. We can see attributes of God in us like our ability to reason and love and feel. As well as there are things that I believe are objectively wrong (like murder) and in order for things to be objectively wrong, there would need to be someone with an authority above us to set said morals in place, which would be God. Like any other historical source, the disciples and other eyewitnesses of Jesus life, miracles, resurrection and that he is God, held true to their claims till death, even though their claims didn't benefit them and got them persecuted and killed, making them reliable sources. The gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) are some of these eyewitness accounts. His disciples being monotheistic Jews who's bias wouldve compelled them to say He is not God, but instead threw away their lives because they saw him do miracles (making their claims more trustworthy). His crucifixion (which has been documentation outside religion) was due to the Jewish citizens agreeing that his claim to be God was heresy (as they didn't know Jesus is truly God and the pharisees were afraid of losing power). Or people like James, Jesus's half brother who was a skeptic at first but saw Jesus after his ressurection and from that point on knew Jesus was God and reffered to himself as a servant of the Lord Jesus. And if someone claims all this and has miracles to back it up, is kind to everyone (doesn't use this to get power or riches) and witnesses and documentation to prove this to be true and says their the only way, imma listen. John 8:58-59 New International Version 58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. Jesus is claiming to be God and to be eternal (live before abraham) The crowd understood this and tried stone him for blasphemy Jesus claimed to be God, had miracles to back it up, is kind to everyone (doesn't use this to get power or riches), and says he's the only way. God is good, so sin and evil is when you disobey God and his will. God loves us so he gives us the free will to choose what we want to do, even if it's wrong. However, God is still just, so he can't leave evil unpunished. He is so just that all who sin aren't worthy of his Kingdom. And we all sin. Think about it like this, a lot of pain and suffering in the world is caused by us, whether big or small. God loves us and doesn't want anyone hurting us. But in order to remove all the pain from the world, He'd have to remove us as removing the free will he gave us isn't just. God cared for us enough to meet us where we are. As whilst we were still sinners, God came to Earth as a man (Jesus), lived the perfect sinless life we should've lived and paid the price for our sins (death) and defeated death when he rose again on the third day, so that we can have peace, salvation, eternal life and a relationship with him. And all we need to do is repent (express remorse) for our sins and follow Jesus. He cares for each one of us enough to die for the sins of each one of us (crimes he didn't commit), so he cares about people (including you) on an individual level too, that's why he wants a relationship with you. Romans 5:8-9 New International Version (NIV) "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!" God gives us the free will to choose to follow him or not. However, when you follow him, you allow him to work in your heart to give you peace and joy and to make you a better person. But if u refuse to follow him, God honors your free will and choice to do so. However, that means you are claiming that you can live a good life without Him. So when God is judging people and their actions (as he must as He is both good and just) all the sins of the unbeliever are weighed against them, because they claimed full responsibility for their actions and choices. But the believer has accepted the gift Jesus gave in paying the price for their sins, so they are weighed as blameless. God doesn't force you to follow him. He gives you free choice, but the different choices have consequences. God wants us to follow him because he wants to have a relationship with us, as we are his children who he loves dearly. So believers meet God in heaven to live eternally, because they followed him. And non believers are to be judged for their sins and since everyone sins, they are thrown into Hell. That's why believers are called to share this message so that people accept Jesus and can be saved by repenting their sins and accepting and following Jesus. Jesus lived a life helping those who were sick, poor in spirit, and hurting. He lived his life poor when he could've chosen to be born rich. This is why I trust in God's goodness and love for us, even when i don't fully understand some things This is why I believe God is real, loves you and you can put your trust in him. And though there are people who twist religion to hurt others (Jesus warned against false prophets and scribes we should be weary of), I'm not going to let the corrupt nature of some people ruin my relationship with God. There will always be people who try take a good thing and use it for evil, so even though there are many times of people using the Bible for their own motives, I can trust in the God who was willing to face physical and spiritual death for me even when I didn't do anything to earn it, who wants to grant me peace and joy and who emphasized loving God and loving thy neighbour. Repent and follow Jesus. He loves you and wants to save you❤
Prohibiting marriage to non-Christians is the norm in Catholicism. Catholics are only allowed to marry unbelievers with special permission (dispensation from the normative rule) from the Bishop. Your bishop will evaluate you to make sure that your spouse won’t bring you away from God and His Church.
Him last week: I’m so convicted about being mean online. 😢 I’ll never do it again. Him a few days later: Methodists are just baptists who can read 19:33 SO MUCH PROGRESS 😍
@@redeemedzoomer6053 As Catholic it's weird for someone to put us behind Methodist but okay..😅 ps: In my eyes we are better than Methodist but they are still strong 😅
Genuine question since you mentioned Catholicism in Poland being about the worship of statues rather than the teachings of the gospel and I want to know where this perspective comes from since I've personally been really satisfied with the church, and it's teaching ever since I've become a Christian in this country
I’m intrigued too. I’m in the US, but from what I understand the order of the mass is universal, and it ALWAYS includes several readings from the Bible and one from the Gospel, so I’m not sure where the idea that Catholics just light candles to saints comes from.
@@HeatherFonseca As Bishop Fulton Sheen once said. Only a hundred souls on earth hate the Catholic Church, but millions of souls hate what they believe is the Catholic Church. It’s not necessarily the fault of Protestants that they believe what they do.
@@HeatherFonseca Even at the Latin Mass, the priest nearly always reads the epistle and gospel for the day in the vernacular before preaching his sermon.
Interesting to note that John Wesley himself technically remained a loyal Anglican in good standing his whole life, though it wasn't easy. It was Wesley's followers who truly started the Methodist Church.
The reason almost anybody could be Anglican is because they shy away from taking super hard line positions on miniscule topics. They don't force people to belive tiny little obscure factoids about what 2 words mean in some obscure scripture most Christians have never read before. This means two things; one is that there seems to be many things Anglicans can believe without loosing the church. People can actually disagree on little things without a forced conformity on every little topic. Secondly, I think it may be the 3rd largest church in the world, or third largest Christian church? Meaning, it has that "old" faith feel, there is a presence in most places where churches can be planted, and it has a decent balance between the high church RC system and the reformed "but scripture is actually the highest authority" protestant. Anglicans themselves may fight about whether they should be described as protestant and/or reformed etc. I rather like the idea of not making grand universal sweeping hard judgments on every tiny thing. When a church does this, it ipso facto excludes everyone who isn't sure. Forcing them to either bow at the feet of church authority, or feel like they are a bad Christian in some way for not agreeing with the church. You don't want a church that, every 10 minutes, proclaims some new thing you MUST believe in order to remain part of that church. I'm not personally a "high church" type because I think too much weight is placed on things like symbols and litergy and icons and rituals and it tends to feel borderline idolotrous at times. We aren't "earning" anything by doing all these rituals, it doesn't make us more Christian or more favored or anything. The heart of the church is to spread the gospel and serve people. The heart of the church gathering is to read scripture and fellowship and break bread and serve needs in the body. I don't really know how to categorize the point of strict litergies and highly specific rituals and doing things with church trinkets. Anyway, people like me tend to go wherever the bible is preached well and applied to daily life. Sorta somewhat baptist somewhat reformed somewhat "non-denominational". You don't need special titles and strict codes and rituals and rites and litergy books in order to study God's word. Those things are just helpful for people it seems.
I completely agree with your take on Methodists being consistently more similar to Presbyterians due to things like pardobaptism and the like. However, the Particular Baptists are very similar to Presbyterians in a lot of ways. They affirmed spiritual presence in the Eucharist and a view of Baptism that is higher than just symbolic (it's not as strong as Presbyterians, but it's definitely not seen as merely a symbol). Major differences between the Particular Baptists (who were the majority early in Baptist history) and Presbyterians were in regards to church polity and the debate regarding infant baptism. I know you like Gavin Ortlund, so I think you would find his videos on the subject interesting. Love your videos as a Reformed Baptist!
The word of God should be an ultimate authority of any church, not a tradition, not a church history or whatever. And that’s why my heart stand firm with the Baptist church.
for the record I'm not christian, but I've always been curious about this point. The version of the bible that baptists read was literally assembled by the catholic church. How is that consistent with the belief that the church has no authority?
As a recent Orthodox convert, I definitely agree you would be more RC than EO. That said, I pray for you to find your way back to the Orthodox tradition eventually. Peace be with you RZ. Hail Christ the Risen King!
Redeemed zoomer, I am a southern Baptist, and am currently a student of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. I’m a long time viewer of your channel as well. I really admire you, and your dedication and attention to detail and have come to love your content. I have learned much from you about other denominations outside of Baptist. However, I wish you did have more love for Baptists than you at least appear to on the surface. Speaking for myself as a southern Baptist, I usually find myself in agreement with most of what you say, as Presbyterian. In fact because of my admiration and respect for you, I’ve said I’d be Presbyterian if I weren’t Baptist. Theologically, I agree with you more often than not. The only areas I have to agree to disagree with you about primarily is Baptism, and maybe certain things with communion and sacraments. I’m not sure which Baptists you’ve met and interacted with or which Baptist churches you’ve attended? But I find myself often wishing I could show you my church. I’ve often thought you’d at least appreciate our message and where we stand theologically. However you are correct in that we do distance ourselves from Catholicism as much as possible, I’d have to agree with that. Nevertheless, I have a great deal of respect for Presbyterians because of you and your channel.
Hey, thanks for the respectful comment, but I do feel like the Baptist-Presbyterian relationship is a lot like the Presbyterian-Lutheran relationship. Presby: we're similar to Lutherans Lutherans: no you're not Baptist: we're similar to Presby Presby: no you're not We think the sacraments are an essential to the Reformed tradition so if you disagree with us on it you can't be Reformed
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Fair enough. I do stand by that Baptism should be by immersion and that we shouldn’t Baptist infants. I do stand by that it should be a personal choice of each individual, as a public declaration of their faith in Jesus. Being Baptized because they are saved, not to become saved. I do feel that Biblically speaking, Baptism and Communion are the only sacraments needed. I also stand by the belief that the bread and wine/grape juice, are symbolic only of the body and blood of Christ, and that we are doing this in remembrance of Him, until He returns as He commanded. But throughout all of your videos, I find myself in almost complete agreement with you on your interpretation of scripture and what it means to be Christian and what that looks like. Even if we differ on church tradition, I know your content well enough to know how intelligent and knowledgeable you are, and that you have been born again of the Son of God, and I know that and believe that with all my heart that you are a true believer in Christ. If we are not necessarily brothers in Christ due to differing denominations, then we certainly are at least cousins in Christ. And I’d certainly like to go on watching your content. I find it fascinating.
@Bible43If it isn’t symbolic and is the real flesh and blood of Christ, then it means those consuming it are cannibals. This is the problem when people claim it is quite literally his flesh and blood. If cannibalism is now okay under Christianity, can Christians eat dead people? The belief of it being real leads to these absurdities
@@HighCarbDiabeticV it's even worse, Catholics believe that they are eating Jesus, eating God 😮 because he said to do so and because he is the sacrifice. No wonder Jesus lost so many followers after this teaching. Totally worse than Cannibalism!
As an Anglican I’m always happy with faith dialogue between denominations. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ and that is far more unifying than what divides us. God bless you all ✝️🤝🏻☦️🤝🏻🇻🇦
@@sulamy1955 Nem tanto Sulamy. A mailine tem mais de 700k de.membros e se for somar com as outras formas de Presbiterianismo então somos cerca de um milhão. Mas realmente tem muito mais pentecostais, batistas não denominacianais no protestantismo brasileiro, mas somos um dos grupos que mais vem crescendo.
@MermaidMonarchist problem with that theory is that neither religion believes in a sola scriptura theology. Sola scriptura was a de novo method of interpreting scripture at the time
Bro actually said reformed Baptist is a new thing 😂 The Baptist confession of faith was written in 1689 and was initially adopted by the SBC before they got rid of it. We did not appear with MacArthur 😂😁
@@auggieeasteregg2150 I think he more just strongly dislikes Baptists so he throws us reformed baptists out the window with him. Based on his videos, he’s never seriously grappled with 1689 baptists. Avoids talking about us entirely
@@scharlesscalvin to be “Protestant” your church has to be out of the “Protestant Reformation” area the SDA came from the “Great Restoration” some 200 years later. Also Protestant churches agree to the Nicene Creed, which SDA do not. Calling yourself Protestant doesn’t make it true.
After watching a bit of Redeemed Zoomer's content I think this video makes sense. I do enjoy these videos. I'm a Pentecostal from Canada and both Methodist and Anglican would be in my top two as well.
@@fernandoperez8587 I believe that Jesus is present and working during communion. I don't believe that water baptism saves. I believe that when a person turns to Christ in repentance and believes in Christ then that person is saved and is baptized with the holy Spirit. Water baptism should follow soon in the new believer's life. Here I disagree with Redeemed Zoomer and Anglicans and probably Methodists. I am more like a Baptist in this way.
@@IsGul_Davos I encourage you to read up on what scripture says about water baptism. It is not a work we do but something done to us by God through His church. Even in scripture the command and description of baptism is in the passive voice "be baptized." Ultimately though salvation is a process with the Triune God. Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. - Hebrews 6:1-2 Here we find an order of salvation starting with repentance and faith and ending in resurrection and final judgment. Salvation is a process. First is repentance and faith which is directed to God (the Father). Then baptism, in the name of the Triune God, follows placing us into Christ (in whom is the promises). Then lastly is the laying on of hands to receive the Spirit of God which makes us children of God. We are made God's temple by first appealing to God in repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Then in baptism we receive the forgiveness of sins to be consecrated for God's presence to come in and dwell. This then happens when hands are laid on us and we receive God's presence, His Spirit. Just like Moses had to first make atonement and consecrate all instruments of worship and the sanctuary with blood and water for God to dwell with them so we too must do so in baptism and the laying on hands. It's a process.
@@IsGul_Davos Consider this: Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. - Hebrews 6:1-2 Here we find an order of salvation starting with repentance and faith and ending in resurrection and final judgment. Ultimately though salvation is a relational process with the Triune God. First is repentance and faith which is directed to God (the Father). Then baptism, in the name of the Triune God, follows placing us into Christ (in whom is the promises). Then lastly is the laying on of hands to receive the Spirit of God which makes us children of God. We are made God's temple by first appealing to God in repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Then in baptism we receive the forgiveness of sins to be consecrated for God's presence to come in and dwell. This then happens when hands are laid on us and we receive God's presence, His Spirit. Just like Moses had to first make atonement and consecrate all instruments of worship and the sanctuary with blood and water for God to dwell with them so we too must do so in baptism and the laying on hands. It's a process. Also water baptism is not a work we do but something done to us by God through His church. Even in scripture the command and description of baptism is in the passive voice "be baptized."
@@IsGul_Davos Consider the following: Therefore, having left the beginning teaching of the Christ, we should go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. - Hebrews 6:1-2 Here we find an order of salvation starting with repentance and faith and ending in resurrection and final judgment. Salvation is a relational process with the Triune God in which we are made God's temple. First is repentance and faith which is directed to God (the Father). Then baptism, in the name of the Triune God, which places us into Christ causing us to receive the forgiveness of our sins (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Ephesians 5:26). Then lastly is the laying on of hands to receive God's presence, His Spirit which dwells within us making us children of God. Similarly Moses had to first make atonement and consecrate all instruments of worship and the sanctuary with blood and water for God presence to dwell with them. All this process is done and accessed by faith. Water baptism is not a work we do but something done to us by God through His church. Even in scripture the command and description of baptism is in the passive voice "be baptized."
I appreciate your discourse on predestination. As a catholic, I've been accused of being calvinist for simply pointing out that God is omnipotent and all powerful, that God supercedes time and space, and that nothing happens unless he allows it to happen.
“Reformed Baptists” were known as Particular Baptists. They have a similar Sacramentology and Covenant theology to Presbyterians and Congregationalists. Their beliefs are outlined in the 1689 2nd London Baptist Confession of Faith.
Catholics in Catholic Church doesn't hear much about Gospel? W8 what? On every Mass there's reading from the Gospel. Nearly always there is a preaching, homily from the priest after the reading of the Gospel. Dude, even after the Mass (for exmaple during pope's Agnelus Prayer / Regina Ceali Prayer, there is homily, which is based on Sunday's reading of Gospel). Really dude? Not only that, but parts of the Mass, of the Roman Missal - there is a Bible verse out of this included. The Mass itself is about the Last Supper, death of Jesus on cross and His resurrection. And catholicism in Poland, even that it's declying, but IT IS NOT A PRAYING TO THE STATUES! NO! I'm a Pole, I live in Poland. Catholics are declyining - yes, but IT ISN'T a situation like in Spain, where there is a little group attending to the small chapel i cathedral on Sunday Mass, NO! Many great priests are in Poland still. And quess what - protestants in Poland are liberal-leading. The augsburg-evangelical (lutheran) Church inteoduced woman "priesthood" and the presbytarians openly promote homo-marriages. There is no known catholic church in Poland, which is for that (in cotrast to Germany or USA).
Do you attend the TLM, I've heard there is a lot of them in Poland. Ah yes the Germans... in the Netherlands we've already had our liberal phase in the 1960's to let's say 1990's, where the Germans are at now. Despite (or maybe because of) their culture (the same as we Dutchies have), the best Catholic content is from the USA.
Hey, don't blame us for the woman preachers. Those churches are a rogue denomination, which doesn't believe the Bible is the word of God or infallible. They are eisegesis fake "churches," not Lutheran or even basic Christians. Anyways what are you going to do about Pope Francis? He is going on CBS 60 minutes embarrassing you in realtime.
16:10 I thought he had a point about the pitfalls of Catholicism, until he said "praying to statues." Just common Prot slander. If you are a solider and you are in a fox hole and you kiss a picture of your wife, does that mean you love that picture, or is it your wife that you love?
Your videos are pretty balanced with no bias that I could detect. I didn’t know you were a Presbyterian from your other videos so that tells me you were doing a good job of just giving the facts with no bias.
I really appreciate when people answer this because it's so helpful to know if one ever had to unexpectedly move, what the next best churches to go to might be if our preferred denomination wasn't there by chance.
@@Procopius464couldn’t agree more, especially since I’ve still been trying to read where I’m the Bible it says to baptize babies. Last I checked it was a decision one consciously made.
@@JhonnyL3002 I actually am in a church that baptizes babies. There are some places in the Bible where whole households get baptized at once, so that is the main justification for it. I get that Zoomer doesn't want to go to a Baptist church, but since he believes in theistic evolution he ought to dial back his criticism. There's no wiggle room in Genesis, so who is it that's not reading?
Loved it! It's the most catholic-without-being-catholic choice possible! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Btw, I'm catholic, and I've never felt offended by any of your commentary... On the very contrary, I learned a great deal from your videos. Thanks! :)
A question, but what is exactly the problem with purgatory? Like maccabees 2 12:46 states: It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins. Is it not enough? Like why is “wholesome thought” praying for the dead if is useless, by bothering making “sacrifice to be offered for the since of the dead” (maccabees 2 12:43) if god has already decided?
As a reformed Baptist, attending a Presbyterian and about to try out the Wesleyan Methodist, this was really interesting and timely. "Much nicer people" is what I'm looking for.
Best Part about being Moravian is that we're such a small denomination No one ever bashes us LOL. Which honestly baffles me we're not talked about more considering we're descendants of the Hussites who absolutely wrecked the Roman Catholic Crusaders.
I ran a similar “bracket.” I was raised in an Evangelical non denominational church, but now I’m theologically literate. I landed on being either Anglican or Catholic. I’m probably going to be Anglican unless I marry a Catholic, because I am very open to Catholicism and would want my kids growing up with united parents and in a denomination that’s pretty strong. This channel has really shaped my beliefs. God bless.
Heads up, according to US copyright law your creative works are copyright by default. You may want to consider providing a clear and explicit grant to the public domain. My father, who has the exact attitude you do, puts a public domain icon and "I grant this work to the public domain" at the bottom of each of his theological articles on his website.
Copyright is not an issue unless Zoomer decides to sue you. It is purely defensive in nature at least in the US. He did say his denomination seals are not copyrighted in the video, though whether that counts a valid disclaimer or not, he won't sue you over it. You can use it just like how copyrighted stuff appears in almost every video on youtube. Though of course, making it formal may prevent issues no matter how unlikely they will occur.
20:29 At this point it would be between Baptist and Lutheran but that closeness with E. Orth. is still there. There was a time when Lutherans were in dialogue with Bishop Cyril Lucaris of Constantinople but Dositheus of Jerusalem got alarmed and rallied the East against reform. Do you know if there are any English translations of the actual source writings of those events? That might be an interesting read.
@@malachite5338 I don't know if you have watched any of Leighton Flowers on his Channel 'Soteriology 101'. Many of his posts are quite long but there are also some short videos. He has done two debates with James White. It's a bit too complicated to expound in the comments section of a video on another subject.
Reformed baptists are reformed. and although the term reformed baptist came in at a later time there was still the 1689 London Baptist confession of faith and it is an exact copy of the Westminster confession except for minor differences and in infant baptism. those are the beliefs I hold and people who are reformed simply because of predestination are not reformed and in my opinion predestination is the worst of the reformed views.
RZ as an Englishman bought up in traditional anglicanism (not an anglo-catholic, not a basically methodist etc) I was bought up on traditional liturgy and think that you can have a clearer view of what the essence of the Church of England is there than in the Articles of Faith or in the statements bought out by Sir Justin etc. Could you do a video (or some sort of discussion) on what you see to be the theology of the Book of Common Prayer, the traditional form of Anglican worship (and still technically the authorised form of prayer, the far more common forms are officially alternative options). I don’t mean the broad brushstrokes of what prayers are said but the implications of the wording. I’ve always found the description of christ’s sacrifice in the phrase at the Eucharistic Prayer of particular interest that it is “(by his one oblation of himself once offered) a full, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice, oblation, and satisfaction, for the sins of the whole world; and did institute, and in his holy Gospel command us to continue, a perpetual memory of that his precious death, until his coming again”. If you’ve not read it before, beware of several long sentences, words that have slightly changed meaning over the last 350 years and a weird need to keep praising the King, but I suppose that’s all part of our confusing governance. It can be easily found on the CofE website here www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/worship-texts-and-resources/book-common-prayer/lords-supper-or-holy-communion
As a Redeemed Zoomer fan and Baptist who is hyperfixated on being scholarly about my own theology, there is nothing more hilarious than seeing Zoomer totally dunk on us every single video, because he's usually right hahaha💙
@ReformationHomested not really, when many Baptist form off from the main Baptist conventions they really don't change. Also the Independent fundamentalist Baptists are basically just non-denominational Christians who are just honest in saying their Baptists
Yes, yes! As a Calvinist with a bishop I am delighted at this outcome ….this was better than the sports channel…I was edge of my seat cheering for my reformed Anglican team. Loving the fun within the Kingdom. Our Triune God is obviously the clear overall winner on Trinity Sunday.
As a former Baptist, now Anglican who goes to a very traditional, conservative, Anglo-Catholic high church, I love your winner! I love my Church and its tradition.
*I used to never put any other books or objects on top of my KJV that was given to me in 1961. I cherishED it my whole life from when I was just 8 years old. That is up until about 8 years ago! Now it stays on the bottom of a big box of books in my closet. And unless Jesus changes it back into God's Holy word, I will never open it or any other bible again the rest of my life!* *Satan is spreading his evil across the globe and most people are beginning to see it. But sadly only a tiny few see what he's done to God's word...* *What The Father has spoken will never change, His promises are still good and our prayers are still answered! Hallelujah!!! But as impossible as this sounds, like so many of the true stories in scripture, our bibles have all been supernaturally changed by Satan in the last several years, right in our homes, in the fulfillment of prophecy. It's being done to prepare for the reign of the antichrist. All languages and all translations have been changed along with concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, the original Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic manuscripts. Even the Dead Sea Scrolls have been changed!* *I'm 71, was saved when I was 10, and have read only the exact same copy of the King James bible my church gave me in 1961. (This does not mean I was a King James onlyist but now I'm glad I never read other ones or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I had memorized many scriptures from it through the years. Then in 2014 I started seeing changes in it that I couldn't explain. I had never owned a computer or heard of the Mandela Effect back then. But after being given my first computer in 2016 I finally found out why I had been noticing all of the oddities that I couldn't explain. I then started diligently studying what should actually have been called the "Daniel 7:25 effect". That's where God said He would give the antichrist the power to do this. (Change times and laws, history and scripture) We're seeing many end time prophecies being fulfilled SUPERNATURALLY! This is some of the "lying signs and wonders" God told us He would give the AC power to perform which would even deceive His very elect, if it were possible in 2nd Thessalonians chapter two!* *God said in the end of days, (NOW!) that He would send us a famine for hearing His words in Amos **8:11** and that He would give the antichrist the ability to do this in Daniel 7:25. In Daniel 12:4 & 12:9 He told him to seal his book until the end days. He told John **_not_** to seal his book because the end time is at hand in Revelation 22:10. One of the Greek definitions of ''seal'' in Strongs concordance is “to protect from Satan”. He also told us to “hide His words in our hearts”, which meant memorize, if not word for word at least the essence of what was written, because He knew this was going to happen.* *God commanded us to "prove all things", and people **_better_** obey Him, especially on this subject. I urge you to research this. There are many brothers and sisters making videos about the changes with more proof of what was originally written and I have lots more about this in my playlist 👉 which can be found by typing in (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE 1)* 👈 *I've continued to stay in God's word by reading what has been documented to be what used to be written and what Satan has been changing. Soon Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled too and we won't be able to find God's word anymore, and the only way it can happen is by not being able to see these videos and PDF written lists of documented changes like the one at (amos)(8)(.)(org)* *May God bless all who read this with eyes to see this incredible faith strengthener, and how close we are to our Saviour's return!!!!* *P.S. Everyone is going to learn about this one way or the other. I'm just trying to keep so many people from hearing Jesus explain it to them at the Gate. If you ask for them at the address on my about page I will send you links for 17 films that absolutely prove the snake bite is the mark. And yt hates me, they won't notify me of replies and won't post my answers so write me at residue junkie in one word at g mail for lots more info yt would never allow you to see.* ❤✝️💪 *P.P.S. YT will not notify me if you reply here so write me at residue junkie in one word at g mail.*
Let me guess. Next it’s going to be “You’ll never believe this but I had this dream where God showed me the true scripture and told me to write it down for His true followers.” Where have I heard that one before
*The separation of the ''tares'' from the ''WHEAT'' for the Harvest is happening right now!!!* *WHEAT obey God's commandment to ''prove all things'' even if they believe something contrary to what is being presented. This is how the Holy Spirit leads them into all truth. Then they immediately begin helping to spread the news.* *Tares on the other hand, always argue or simply ignore anything that they ''think'' is wrong. That's why they will ''perish for a lack of knowledge.''* *God promised to send a ''famine of hearing His word'' in the last days, and if you don't see that's where we're at now, you're blind **_and_** lost.* *Now here's the info that is perfectly and distinctly revealing whether someone is WHEAT or a tare because it's by far the most important thing that has happened since the Day of Pentecost! And if they don't investigate it...* *The AC has not only tricked billions into receiving his mark, he has fulfilled many other end time prophecies which everyone previously misinterpreted. The key one is Amos **8:11**. That's where it tells us about the famine. Everybody used to think it meant our bibles would be taken from us some day, right? NOPE! That prophecy has already been perfectly fulfilled right under everyone's noses!!!* *On the off chance any WHEAT see this (they make up less than 1% of all who say they're saved) first read Amos **8:11**, then type in (proof of bible change residue junkie 1) AND HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT!!! Then to see proof about the MOTB ask for it at my g mail which is residue junkie in one word.* *After some of the shock has worn off and you have seen all of these films (I didn't make them) your faith will be 1,000% stronger and you will have grown MUCH closer to the never changing Word of God Jesus Christ ... **_GUARANTEED!!!!!!!_* *Jesus will explain it to the tares and everyone else at the Gate before sending them all on their way.* ❤✝️💪🏻 *P.S. After people have taken all of the required 💉's, they will apply a quantum dot invisible tattoo to their head or hand, but anyone who has had just one has a bluetooth mac # that can be read by any smart phone and when you walk through the deal at an airport they know if you have it. The no buying or selling is happening incrementally and will be complete when cash is abolished and worship can be defined as "to fear, obey and trust in someone or something" which is what they are doing with the Beast System and the Image of the Beast, (NWO and TV!). They also now have triple helix DNA, are no longer human and if they have children they won't be human either! Yes, this absolutely is it, and👉 if you write me at the address on my about page👈 I'll send you 17 **_shocking_** films that will PROVE it to anyone who has the courage to watch them.* *P.P.S. YT won't notify me if you reply here so write me at my g mail which is residue junkie in one word.*
“You will know them by their fruits.” That’s the bottom line for me. I have friends from many denominations from evangelical Christian to UCC. What matters to me is the way they show God’s love to the world, display the fruits of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Follow God in whatever way brings you closer to Him and helps you shine His light.
In fact, the bible even gives instructions for adding winged angel figures to the arc of the covenant (Ex 25:18-22). Or is "hammered gold" somehow not "graven"?
Zoomer,, I really think you misunderstand the baptist tradition. You communicated that baptists all of a sudden decided to be calvinist because of John Piper. There are two problems with this. It completely ignores the particular baptist tradition (Charles Spurgeon, long before John Piper). The second issue is conflating those who more accurately refer to themselves as reformed like voddie baucham and James White on the basis of believing major tenants of the reformed tradtition just with a baptist spin on it, and those of the "young restless and reformed" group which identify with MacArthur and Piper and Platt and thus identify as reformed solely on the basis of predestination.
Update: Future Mrs Zoomer did this bracket and she got Lutheran due to her Midwestern Lutheran heritage and veneration of Bach (also my video is not getting dislike-bombed, the return dislike extension is not accurate)
My family is Lutheran too
I think somebody is bot-disliking your vids
0:48 But congregationalists deny the presybterian form of church governance, don't they???
@@geochonker9052no. The return dislike extension is not accurate
@@Pomni740Why would he? If it’s so non-contradictory to the Bible as Mormons claim, why do we need to?
I’m gonna call it and say he’s NOT gonna say Three Self Patriotic Movement
I feel like he might, though
He shouldn't knock it until he tries it. I feel English speaking Christians are so prejudice against the Three Self Patriotic Movement.
I got that on the denomination test lol
Or Calvary Chapel
Ah yes, the one true church,
Beijing is the fourth Rome,
“Anglo Catholics are basically like Catholics but more likely to be gay”
Why did I laugh at this 💀
Real 💀💀
Bruh so true 😂
Cuz it’s true
It's bc if they weren't gay then they'd be Catholic
They are like 'Catholics', but without submitting to Rome, which is like the basis of Catholicism
“You have to wait your turn for me to say something offensive about you.”
Me, a Baptist: Don’t worry bro, you offend us almost every video.
I'm not offended by his ignorance, just annoyed that he refuses to correct it 🤷🏼♀️
Once again, Reformed Baptists, particularly Covenental Reformed Baptists, believe *almost identical things* to Presbyterians regarding soteriology, ordinances, and covenental theology. We just believe that the birth of the new covenant is the new birth by the Spirit. And yes, the term "Reformed Baptist" is newer, but it's hardly a new concept.
I'm in this camp too. And like he doesn't even acknowledge ANY of the Baptist contributions to music either... Like almost all the roots of American country music was footed by Baptist musicians and singers... Starting to think he's got a hatred for Baptists just because he wants to... He hides behind "the differences" of presby and bapst but truth is there ain't too much different when you look at the bigger picture..
@@grammaurai6843 It was "particular Baptists" before 1960-1980 until you guys decided to hijack the name of another protestant tradition and pretend you were just a congregational version of it (we already had the Congregationalists).
Besides that, your view on Baptism is very different and as far as i know your Covenant Theology is also different.
I'm saying that for the sake of what i believe is intellectual honesty, but Reformed Baptist preachers had a great impact on me especially when i was converting and i believe their association with Presbyterians actually helped PCA and other Presbyterian churches remain theologically conservative.
@@jeremykoeppe7949 it's subconscious. The relationship between RBs and Presbyterians is like that of Lutherans and Presbyterians. We're cool with them, they dislike us, often for things we don't even believe.
@@grammaurai6843not true
Just watched this. Can't believe he has chosen Mormons!
Shhhh
@@redeemedzoomer6053 this deserves pinned comment
😂😂
I hope not because they’re not Christian! I haven’t watched the full video though.
@@Pomni740they are heretics, they believe that the father, the son and the holy spirit are three seperate gods
If he weren't presbyterian CLEARLY he would be a Sagittarius.
I like ur Prussian country ball pfp
@@JoachimSchwerkelburg-mo3ey
Thx! I got it cuz I play Empire Total War a lot :)
Country balls are cool
@@Yxunz_Exists
So are you :)
Thanks :)
"You have to wait your turn to be offended by me"
Baptists - Nah, we really don't lol
As a former Baptist turned Catholic I'm double offended
PerturaboIW
You went from Based to cringe.
@@PerturaboIWthat’s wild. I’ll never become a Catholic. Respect them? Of course. Think I’m eating Jesus’ literal body and blood and priests can’t be married? No way.
Bro is REACHING to find a way to hate on Baptists
(Forgot the B)
@@PerturaboIWYo, do you think those who aren’t Catholics are going to hell? You being a former Baptist makes me very curious.
“Some Methodists are just Baptists who can read.”
Bro I’m wheezing 😂
Paul Washer quote
Methodists are baptists who can read
Presbyterians are Methodists with Money
Anglicans are Presbyterians who print the money
It's actually a much older quote.
As a Methodist who used to be a Baptist I was dying
I love baptists though. They’re awesome
Former Baptist here, also. I LOLed.😄😉💗
Obviously EO. Redeemed Zoomer is gonna start spam-generating trad orthobro edits with hardcore phonk music and gigachad music layered over them.
dude has a really serious beef with eastern orthodoxy
Truth pills are hard to swallow. Every post catho protestant was a product of the abuse of the Catholic Church. Hard to predict protestants existing had the catholics not continue to drive wedges between folks. @Raxel501
@@Raxel501naw i think it's a healthy criticism of the orthodox bro larpers but not beef with actual orthodox
@@heidehho6191except that can be applied to any denomination’s worse elements lol
RZ doesn’t jump online to shoot some potshots at Coptics or Methodists or even Non Denominationals every week lmao
@@obiwankenobi6871 I agree that you'll get that in any denomination for sure. 🙌
Catholic Zoomer is too beautiful to be real
mad respect for Catholicism, but my heart is Presbyterian
@@redeemedzoomer6053 noooo! no respect for the papacy! so many don't believe in justification by faith! many led astray. we need to face this for the sake of preaching the Gospel!
@@redeemedzoomer6053 in my case, my heart may be Lutheran, but my mind is Presbyterian
@@sheeniebeanie2597 I said respect not approval
@@sheeniebeanie2597they do affirm justification by faith
I cannot believe he chose the Three Self Patriotic Movement as what he would be
probably the Three Self Patriotic Movement.
He forgot to add it to the chart didn’t he?
This is gonna be a meme now
@@Michiganman800 not really a meme when there is one true church
the one true church
What even is the three person self patriotic movement?
Instructions not clear, RZ became JW
💀💀
NOOOO, WE COMEPLETELY LOST HIM (Said by an ex-JW)
Heresy
He already wa- oh, wait, those are initials.
On the Catholic view of predestination: “God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end” (CCC 1037)
God is outside time so His final descision on us is already made. This judgement was made based on if we are in God's Grace or not at the moment of our death, but this just seems like an argument of semantics. Traditionally we Catholics would use the language of predestionation to describe this but it has become less popular since Calvenists use similar language.
@SancteCuthberteOraProNobis it's actually debatable if God is outside of time.
@@mk4630 he could voluntarily restrict himself. But I am not sure on what to
@@bobskanal The idea (although I don't agree with it) is that he is subject to time as much as we are, although his omniscience and omnipotence allows him to behave as one outside of time. The reasoning for it is that all of God's free-will decisions must 1. Not be true at one point in time and 2. Be true at another point in time, since that's how decisions work. An example of that is Jesus choosing to heal a blind man because of that man's faith, but this example can be discredited due to Jesus's humanity. For this reason we use God the Father's actions in judgement/covenant towards man.
@@mk4630 The problem is that we say The Son was "born of the Father" but also that he is eternal. Birth implies that there is a time when you did not exist, and yet Jesus is eternal. So maybe that logic can also be applied to decisions (there is no time before God made a decision because he is eternal). Plus, we for us decisions take time because we need to gather information and take time to decide. An all-knowing and all-powerful being would already know everything. So maybe God's judgement for us is not something he "decides" but something he has always known.
First fight and we're already out of the bracket 😭
We still love you bro ☦️
Thanks bro
He does not like the idea of free will.
- A Baptist.
@@Pomni740the challenge is among Christians. 🤷🙃
You guys gotta challenge RZ on some of his stuff. The EO were the bulwark of Christianity, and basically was under siege which protected Europe from Islam. Also look up the history of Byzantium and the episode about the imperial republic. It shows how Byzantium had the best govt system as in fairness for regular people
We hate heresy
16:00 I'm a Catholic from Argentina and I don't really agree. I don't think this can be blamed on the Church not making enough of an effort to spread the Gospel, it does, and the Gospel is read at every mass. Plus, you began saying you would judge a denomination by its "traditional version", not its liberal version. Folk catholicism is not an accepted form of Catholicism, but the effect of being unable to fully erase Native American paganism.
Amen ✝️
Not every bigot, ever truly abandons bigotry...took some obscure people with exposure to Catholicism and holding on to their other beliefs and decided that's Catholicism despite having said he's evaluating the traditional belief
What kind of Native American paganism is still present in folk Catholicism over there? Could you give an example?
@@CorvusLeukosThis is more in Mexico, but "Santa Muerte" or "Saint Death." It's a pagan syncretic belief in a figure who is treated and viewed like a pagan goddess rather than a normal saint by her believers, even though they dress it in Catholic aesthetics of Saint statues and *claim* it's Catholic. The mainstream Catholic church has tried and continues to crack down on it, but it survives underground because the Cartels love Santa Muerte.
Hey man! Orthodox here just wanted to say I really love your videos!
God bless! Christos Anesti
Haha, I’m Russian Orthodox so I had to look that up! Christ is risen indeed.
Here, since you took time to reply to my comment (again 10/10 creator) here’s a saying to add to your repertoire. Hristos voskrece!
@@Pomni740It’s a heretical book
@@Pomni740give up kid, you've posted this exact comment 10000 times, I appreciate you're dedication to your faith, but give it a rest, HE IS NOT MORMON! God bless
@@Armchairamerican1it's even worse, in previous videos he commented that Christ never existed
“There was no mighty Lutheran empire”
*The Swedish and German Empires have entered the chat*
He said mighty lol
having to formally apologize for Luther's self-published hatred of Jews may be a disqualifying factor for some
Both are not nearly comparable to the British Empire. Sweden was a regional power in Europe until the great northern war, they barely spread Christianity, if any for example. Germany was almost half Catholic but the Protestants were the dominant group, so I guess it could count and in their few colonies missionary efforts were a thing but it is just so little. The Catholic Empire of Spain or the Anglican Empire of Britain left a completely different level of a mark on history.
@@BeWe1510 You took my comment too seriously. I didn’t try to compare them to Britain. It’s literally a meme of Sweden and Germany reacting to being called “not mighty”. Don’t overthink it! 😂
@@darthyall841 Yeah maybe I did, sorry for that 😄
I wasn’t aware that this is commonly known meme.
What you said about Methodists being more 'doers' and Presbyterians being more 'thinkers' rings true for me. As a Methodist with a deep interest in theology and really understanding and examining my beliefs, I find that a lot of my reading is Presbyterian & Calvinist authors (despite the fact that I'm very much an Arminian).
I think the great thing about Methodism *is* that focus on doing though. We're always out there spreading the gospel and doing good in the Kingdom (or at least, we're supposed to be). Methodism was formed on the principle of bringing the most needy back into the church at a time when Anglicanism was failing to reach them.
You really do need both, though -- the theological & apologetic prowess, and the practical application of Christianity in the world -- our traditions could learn a lot from each other.
Right that's why Methodists are so common in the Pacific. Because Methodists actually get out and do..
I wish that Methodism didn't separate out from Anglicanism. Being a "High Church Evangelical" type of Anglican myself, we could use you guys!
Lutheran is my prediction.
No definitely wrong he is going to be the three self patriotic movement.
When I heard “syncretism with pagan beliefs”, I really felt that (Filipino catholic here)
Same here. The school I attend is a Catholic school, but if the sculptures of Jesus and Mary weren’t there, as well as the prayers that would be played through a speaker at a set time, you wouldn’t be able to tell. Only the sisters and a friend of mine are the only ones I know that take their faith seriously. It’s sad.
@kashmirandal6282
I pray the Lord grants you His strength, that you and your friend can be a light to those in the school. That they may see Jesus in you and be guided towards the faith. In Jesus's name, Amen.
@kashmirandal6282
Some people just need to know about the faith
There are many logical arguments for God's existence and specifically the Christian God
To say some
If anything i say intrigues you, I advise looking at the video series why we can trust the bible by DLM Christian Lifestyles, as well as the video by Reedemed Zoomer one 10 arguments for God.
But the way I see it
If everything had a cause, nothing would exist because before we could get to the present, an infinite amount of events would need to happen first, which is impossible. So there needs to be a definite start. Since life comes from life and not nonlife, that definite start would be a thinking feeling life, God. We can see attributes of God in us like our ability to reason and love and feel.
As well as there are things that I believe are objectively wrong (like murder) and in order for things to be objectively wrong, there would need to be someone with an authority above us to set said morals in place, which would be God.
Like any other historical source, the disciples and other eyewitnesses of Jesus life, miracles, resurrection and that he is God, held true to their claims till death, even though their claims didn't benefit them and got them persecuted and killed, making them reliable sources. The gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) are some of these eyewitness accounts. His disciples being monotheistic Jews who's bias wouldve compelled them to say He is not God, but instead threw away their lives because they saw him do miracles (making their claims more trustworthy). His crucifixion (which has been documentation outside religion) was due to the Jewish citizens agreeing that his claim to be God was heresy (as they didn't know Jesus is truly God and the pharisees were afraid of losing power). Or people like James, Jesus's half brother who was a skeptic at first but saw Jesus after his ressurection and from that point on knew Jesus was God and reffered to himself as a servant of the Lord Jesus. And if someone claims all this and has miracles to back it up, is kind to everyone (doesn't use this to get power or riches) and witnesses and documentation to prove this to be true and says their the only way, imma listen.
John 8:58-59
New International Version
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
Jesus is claiming to be God and to be eternal (live before abraham) The crowd understood this and tried stone him for blasphemy
Jesus claimed to be God, had miracles to back it up, is kind to everyone (doesn't use this to get power or riches), and says he's the only way.
God is good, so sin and evil is when you disobey God and his will.
God loves us so he gives us the free will to choose what we want to do, even if it's wrong. However, God is still just, so he can't leave evil unpunished. He is so just that all who sin aren't worthy of his Kingdom. And we all sin. Think about it like this, a lot of pain and suffering in the world is caused by us, whether big or small. God loves us and doesn't want anyone hurting us. But in order to remove all the pain from the world, He'd have to remove us as removing the free will he gave us isn't just.
God cared for us enough to meet us where we are. As whilst we were still sinners, God came to Earth as a man (Jesus), lived the perfect sinless life we should've lived and paid the price for our sins (death) and defeated death when he rose again on the third day, so that we can have peace, salvation, eternal life and a relationship with him. And all we need to do is repent (express remorse) for our sins and follow Jesus. He cares for each one of us enough to die for the sins of each one of us (crimes he didn't commit), so he cares about people (including you) on an individual level too, that's why he wants a relationship with you.
Romans 5:8-9 New International Version (NIV)
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!"
God gives us the free will to choose to follow him or not. However, when you follow him, you allow him to work in your heart to give you peace and joy and to make you a better person. But if u refuse to follow him, God honors your free will and choice to do so. However, that means you are claiming that you can live a good life without Him. So when God is judging people and their actions (as he must as He is both good and just) all the sins of the unbeliever are weighed against them, because they claimed full responsibility for their actions and choices. But the believer has accepted the gift Jesus gave in paying the price for their sins, so they are weighed as blameless.
God doesn't force you to follow him. He gives you free choice, but the different choices have consequences. God wants us to follow him because he wants to have a relationship with us, as we are his children who he loves dearly.
So believers meet God in heaven to live eternally, because they followed him.
And non believers are to be judged for their sins and since everyone sins, they are thrown into Hell. That's why believers are called to share this message so that people accept Jesus and can be saved by repenting their sins and accepting and following Jesus.
Jesus lived a life helping those who were sick, poor in spirit, and hurting. He lived his life poor when he could've chosen to be born rich. This is why I trust in God's goodness and love for us, even when i don't fully understand some things
This is why I believe God is real, loves you and you can put your trust in him. And though there are people who twist religion to hurt others (Jesus warned against false prophets and scribes we should be weary of), I'm not going to let the corrupt nature of some people ruin my relationship with God. There will always be people who try take a good thing and use it for evil, so even though there are many times of people using the Bible for their own motives, I can trust in the God who was willing to face physical and spiritual death for me even when I didn't do anything to earn it, who wants to grant me peace and joy and who emphasized loving God and loving thy neighbour.
Repent and follow Jesus. He loves you and wants to save you❤
@ I’ve been praying for strength myself. I know that in time, my prayers will be answered.
Prohibiting marriage to non-Christians is the norm in Catholicism. Catholics are only allowed to marry unbelievers with special permission (dispensation from the normative rule) from the Bishop. Your bishop will evaluate you to make sure that your spouse won’t bring you away from God and His Church.
Christ is risen!☦️
Indeed he is risen ☦️
Indeed he is risen!
Christ has risen *
Christ is Risen Indeed.
@@raygengarratt7220Christ is risen*
Him last week: I’m so convicted about being mean online. 😢 I’ll never do it again.
Him a few days later: Methodists are just baptists who can read 19:33
SO MUCH PROGRESS 😍
Love RZ
Ave Christus Rex ✝️☦️
Hail Christ. Amen
@@redeemedzoomer6053 As Catholic it's weird for someone to put us behind Methodist but okay..😅 ps: In my eyes we are better than Methodist but they are still strong 😅
Why would he, he's Christian, not Mormon? @@Pomni740
Agreed, I’m Dutch reformed and would have chosen Catholic over Methodist
@@Christislord33yeah, chosing methodist over the Church of Christ is absolutely ridiculous. But then again, so is choosing calvinism
We are all saved through Jesus Christ. ☦️✝️
Genuine question since you mentioned Catholicism in Poland being about the worship of statues rather than the teachings of the gospel and I want to know where this perspective comes from since I've personally been really satisfied with the church, and it's teaching ever since I've become a Christian in this country
I’m intrigued too. I’m in the US, but from what I understand the order of the mass is universal, and it ALWAYS includes several readings from the Bible and one from the Gospel, so I’m not sure where the idea that Catholics just light candles to saints comes from.
@@HeatherFonseca
As Bishop Fulton Sheen once said. Only a hundred souls on earth hate the Catholic Church, but millions of souls hate what they believe is the Catholic Church.
It’s not necessarily the fault of Protestants that they believe what they do.
Me too. I want to move to Poland because they're so badass in their Catholicism.
@@HeatherFonseca Even at the Latin Mass, the priest nearly always reads the epistle and gospel for the day in the vernacular before preaching his sermon.
No bigot, even those who pretend to be open, ever really abandons their bigotry
Interesting to note that John Wesley himself technically remained a loyal Anglican in good standing his whole life, though it wasn't easy. It was Wesley's followers who truly started the Methodist Church.
Yup, Wesley is the only founder I know that wasn't a member of his own denomination
where's the Three Self Patriotic Movement? i was waiting for it...
I feel like anglican is the canonical second choice for everyone
Cuzz Anglican is just any denomination but with bishops
I tried the denomination test and yeah I got Anglican for second.
Exactly. You can kind of pick and choose what you want to be as Anglican.
For a protestant, maybe. I doubt I faithful Catholic or Orthodox could ever be a protestant
The reason almost anybody could be Anglican is because they shy away from taking super hard line positions on miniscule topics. They don't force people to belive tiny little obscure factoids about what 2 words mean in some obscure scripture most Christians have never read before.
This means two things; one is that there seems to be many things Anglicans can believe without loosing the church. People can actually disagree on little things without a forced conformity on every little topic. Secondly, I think it may be the 3rd largest church in the world, or third largest Christian church? Meaning, it has that "old" faith feel, there is a presence in most places where churches can be planted, and it has a decent balance between the high church RC system and the reformed "but scripture is actually the highest authority" protestant. Anglicans themselves may fight about whether they should be described as protestant and/or reformed etc.
I rather like the idea of not making grand universal sweeping hard judgments on every tiny thing. When a church does this, it ipso facto excludes everyone who isn't sure. Forcing them to either bow at the feet of church authority, or feel like they are a bad Christian in some way for not agreeing with the church. You don't want a church that, every 10 minutes, proclaims some new thing you MUST believe in order to remain part of that church.
I'm not personally a "high church" type because I think too much weight is placed on things like symbols and litergy and icons and rituals and it tends to feel borderline idolotrous at times. We aren't "earning" anything by doing all these rituals, it doesn't make us more Christian or more favored or anything. The heart of the church is to spread the gospel and serve people. The heart of the church gathering is to read scripture and fellowship and break bread and serve needs in the body. I don't really know how to categorize the point of strict litergies and highly specific rituals and doing things with church trinkets.
Anyway, people like me tend to go wherever the bible is preached well and applied to daily life. Sorta somewhat baptist somewhat reformed somewhat "non-denominational". You don't need special titles and strict codes and rituals and rites and litergy books in order to study God's word. Those things are just helpful for people it seems.
"Baptists who can read." Bruh.
Bro fr 😭
Based
Day 397, still don’t read where infant baptism is allowed
@@themilkman369 ???
@@arminthegreat3729 just messing with non baptists lol
I completely agree with your take on Methodists being consistently more similar to Presbyterians due to things like pardobaptism and the like. However, the Particular Baptists are very similar to Presbyterians in a lot of ways. They affirmed spiritual presence in the Eucharist and a view of Baptism that is higher than just symbolic (it's not as strong as Presbyterians, but it's definitely not seen as merely a symbol). Major differences between the Particular Baptists (who were the majority early in Baptist history) and Presbyterians were in regards to church polity and the debate regarding infant baptism. I know you like Gavin Ortlund, so I think you would find his videos on the subject interesting. Love your videos as a Reformed Baptist!
Was I the only Catholic that stayed and hoped to see if he'd choose Anglican as an alternative?
No 🫡
I've been non-denominational my whole life and am going to an Anglican church for the first time next week. Wish me luck!
How did it go?
Tell us how it went!!
Tell Mr Bean we said hello!
How did your visit go?
“Other Methodists are just Baptists who can read.” 😭😭😭
“This all belongs to the Lord”
God bless you, brother, and give fruit to your work!
No Three Self Patriotic Movement?
I grew up Anglican i dont recognise my church anymore i have become isolated but my faith is stronger then ever
Is there a Free Church of England or other GAFCON church anywhere near you?
The word of God should be an ultimate authority of any church, not a tradition, not a church history or whatever. And that’s why my heart stand firm with the Baptist church.
for the record I'm not christian, but I've always been curious about this point. The version of the bible that baptists read was literally assembled by the catholic church. How is that consistent with the belief that the church has no authority?
Aight it BETTER be Anglican or we gonna have to have another stream 🗿
Pls do another callable with rz
Hes an ordained anglican marine!
Anglican is gay. Its looks like Catholicism, but without the most important parts
Probably Anglican.
not even a downgrade, just a new paint job.
As a recent Orthodox convert, I definitely agree you would be more RC than EO. That said, I pray for you to find your way back to the Orthodox tradition eventually. Peace be with you RZ. Hail Christ the Risen King!
bruh
Praying to make people change denomination? Kinda lame to be honest.
@@realshaiwit’s not if he believes he belongs to the one true church. Just like Christians pray for a Muslim or Hindu.
@@sweetxjc We are talking about different denominations though, not completely different religions.
@@realshaiw Eastern Orthodox Christians believe there is no salvation outside their Church.
Redeemed zoomer, I am a southern Baptist, and am currently a student of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. I’m a long time viewer of your channel as well. I really admire you, and your dedication and attention to detail and have come to love your content. I have learned much from you about other denominations outside of Baptist. However, I wish you did have more love for Baptists than you at least appear to on the surface. Speaking for myself as a southern Baptist, I usually find myself in agreement with most of what you say, as Presbyterian. In fact because of my admiration and respect for you, I’ve said I’d be Presbyterian if I weren’t Baptist. Theologically, I agree with you more often than not. The only areas I have to agree to disagree with you about primarily is Baptism, and maybe certain things with communion and sacraments. I’m not sure which Baptists you’ve met and interacted with or which Baptist churches you’ve attended? But I find myself often wishing I could show you my church. I’ve often thought you’d at least appreciate our message and where we stand theologically. However you are correct in that we do distance ourselves from Catholicism as much as possible, I’d have to agree with that. Nevertheless, I have a great deal of respect for Presbyterians because of you and your channel.
Hey, thanks for the respectful comment, but I do feel like the Baptist-Presbyterian relationship is a lot like the Presbyterian-Lutheran relationship.
Presby: we're similar to Lutherans
Lutherans: no you're not
Baptist: we're similar to Presby
Presby: no you're not
We think the sacraments are an essential to the Reformed tradition so if you disagree with us on it you can't be Reformed
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Fair enough. I do stand by that Baptism should be by immersion and that we shouldn’t Baptist infants. I do stand by that it should be a personal choice of each individual, as a public declaration of their faith in Jesus. Being Baptized because they are saved, not to become saved. I do feel that Biblically speaking, Baptism and Communion are the only sacraments needed. I also stand by the belief that the bread and wine/grape juice, are symbolic only of the body and blood of Christ, and that we are doing this in remembrance of Him, until He returns as He commanded. But throughout all of your videos, I find myself in almost complete agreement with you on your interpretation of scripture and what it means to be Christian and what that looks like. Even if we differ on church tradition, I know your content well enough to know how intelligent and knowledgeable you are, and that you have been born again of the Son of God, and I know that and believe that with all my heart that you are a true believer in Christ. If we are not necessarily brothers in Christ due to differing denominations, then we certainly are at least cousins in Christ. And I’d certainly like to go on watching your content. I find it fascinating.
@Bible43If it isn’t symbolic and is the real flesh and blood of Christ, then it means those consuming it are cannibals. This is the problem when people claim it is quite literally his flesh and blood. If cannibalism is now okay under Christianity, can Christians eat dead people? The belief of it being real leads to these absurdities
@@HighCarbDiabeticVwhen protestants resort to first century pagan smears… you love to see it folks😊
@@HighCarbDiabeticV it's even worse, Catholics believe that they are eating Jesus, eating God 😮 because he said to do so and because he is the sacrifice. No wonder Jesus lost so many followers after this teaching. Totally worse than Cannibalism!
“If I were not a Boy Scout, a Boy Scout, a Boy Scout-If I were not a Boy Scout an Anglican I would be!”
LMAO this sends me back
As an Anglican I’m always happy with faith dialogue between denominations. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ and that is far more unifying than what divides us. God bless you all ✝️🤝🏻☦️🤝🏻🇻🇦
As a mainline brazilian Presbyterian i could not agree more with you.
O número de brasileiros nesse canal é brincadeira kkkkkkkk
Presbiteriano aqui é raro hein bro, abraços da igreja católica
@@sulamy1955verdade
@@sulamy1955 Nem tanto Sulamy. A mailine tem mais de 700k de.membros e se for somar com as outras formas de Presbiterianismo então somos cerca de um milhão. Mas realmente tem muito mais pentecostais, batistas não denominacianais no protestantismo brasileiro, mas somos um dos grupos que mais vem crescendo.
Were there any sola scriptura Christian denominations between the 400s and the 1500s?
Not full denominations, but John Cyrsostom and Cyril of Alexandria held to it. You might want to fact check for Cyril, though.
@@JoWilliams-ud4euCyril was not sola scriptura. He literally quotes the fathers that came before him to make his case in ephesus
@meina0614 That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't, but if you're right, then thanks for the information.
@MermaidMonarchist problem with that theory is that neither religion believes in a sola scriptura theology. Sola scriptura was a de novo method of interpreting scripture at the time
The moravian church was started in 1457 and were similar to solo scriptura
Bro actually said reformed Baptist is a new thing 😂
The Baptist confession of faith was written in 1689 and was initially adopted by the SBC before they got rid of it. We did not appear with MacArthur 😂😁
He got confused because Reformed Baptists used to be called Particular Baptists
@@auggieeasteregg2150 I think he more just strongly dislikes Baptists so he throws us reformed baptists out the window with him. Based on his videos, he’s never seriously grappled with 1689 baptists. Avoids talking about us entirely
Yeah I think it’s interesting how many things differ even within Baptist churches.
He's clearly going to choose adventist
SDAS REPRESENT!!!1!111 ELLEN G WHITE ON TOP (satire)
Adventism isn’t a Christian denomination they’re not even Protestant
@@OnBail-gq6cbnah we are
we don't think we're the only objectively true denomination, therefore we are by definition protestant ;)
@@scharlesscalvin to be “Protestant” your church has to be out of the “Protestant Reformation” area the SDA came from the “Great Restoration” some 200 years later. Also Protestant churches agree to the Nicene Creed, which SDA do not. Calling yourself Protestant doesn’t make it true.
When's the "Why I'm not Three Self Patriotic" ?
When that Wall of Fire or Firewall collapses
As a Methodist, i am glad you called us much nicer then other denominations
God bless you 😂
After watching a bit of Redeemed Zoomer's content I think this video makes sense. I do enjoy these videos.
I'm a Pentecostal from Canada and both Methodist and Anglican would be in my top two as well.
Do you personally believe that baptism saves and in real presence of Christ in the bread and wine?
@@fernandoperez8587 I believe that Jesus is present and working during communion.
I don't believe that water baptism saves. I believe that when a person turns to Christ in repentance and believes in Christ then that person is saved and is baptized with the holy Spirit. Water baptism should follow soon in the new believer's life. Here I disagree with Redeemed Zoomer and Anglicans and probably Methodists. I am more like a Baptist in this way.
@@IsGul_Davos I encourage you to read up on what scripture says about water baptism. It is not a work we do but something done to us by God through His church. Even in scripture the command and description of baptism is in the passive voice "be baptized." Ultimately though salvation is a process with the Triune God.
Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
- Hebrews 6:1-2
Here we find an order of salvation starting with repentance and faith and ending in resurrection and final judgment. Salvation is a process.
First is repentance and faith which is directed to God (the Father). Then baptism, in the name of the Triune God, follows placing us into Christ (in whom is the promises). Then lastly is the laying on of hands to receive the Spirit of God which makes us children of God.
We are made God's temple by first appealing to God in repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Then in baptism we receive the forgiveness of sins to be consecrated for God's presence to come in and dwell. This then happens when hands are laid on us and we receive God's presence, His Spirit.
Just like Moses had to first make atonement and consecrate all instruments of worship and the sanctuary with blood and water for God to dwell with them so we too must do so in baptism and the laying on hands. It's a process.
@@IsGul_Davos Consider this:
Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. - Hebrews 6:1-2
Here we find an order of salvation starting with repentance and faith and ending in resurrection and final judgment. Ultimately though salvation is a relational process with the Triune God.
First is repentance and faith which is directed to God (the Father). Then baptism, in the name of the Triune God, follows placing us into Christ (in whom is the promises). Then lastly is the laying on of hands to receive the Spirit of God which makes us children of God. We are made God's temple by first appealing to God in repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Then in baptism we receive the forgiveness of sins to be consecrated for God's presence to come in and dwell. This then happens when hands are laid on us and we receive God's presence, His Spirit. Just like Moses had to first make atonement and consecrate all instruments of worship and the sanctuary with blood and water for God to dwell with them so we too must do so in baptism and the laying on hands. It's a process.
Also water baptism is not a work we do but something done to us by God through His church. Even in scripture the command and description of baptism is in the passive voice "be baptized."
@@IsGul_Davos Consider the following:
Therefore, having left the beginning teaching of the Christ, we should go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. - Hebrews 6:1-2
Here we find an order of salvation starting with repentance and faith and ending in resurrection and final judgment. Salvation is a relational process with the Triune God in which we are made God's temple.
First is repentance and faith which is directed to God (the Father). Then baptism, in the name of the Triune God, which places us into Christ causing us to receive the forgiveness of our sins (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Ephesians 5:26). Then lastly is the laying on of hands to receive God's presence, His Spirit which dwells within us making us children of God.
Similarly Moses had to first make atonement and consecrate all instruments of worship and the sanctuary with blood and water for God presence to dwell with them.
All this process is done and accessed by faith. Water baptism is not a work we do but something done to us by God through His church. Even in scripture the command and description of baptism is in the passive voice "be baptized."
I honestly can't believe neither catholicism nor lutheranism won
As he said, Anglicanism can be just calvinism with bishops kkkk and they had a great impact on the world
Say what you want.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
We should all act like it
Amen, brother!
I appreciate your discourse on predestination. As a catholic, I've been accused of being calvinist for simply pointing out that God is omnipotent and all powerful, that God supercedes time and space, and that nothing happens unless he allows it to happen.
“Reformed Baptists” were known as Particular Baptists. They have a similar Sacramentology and Covenant theology to Presbyterians and Congregationalists. Their beliefs are outlined in the 1689 2nd London Baptist Confession of Faith.
Catholics in Catholic Church doesn't hear much about Gospel? W8 what? On every Mass there's reading from the Gospel. Nearly always there is a preaching, homily from the priest after the reading of the Gospel.
Dude, even after the Mass (for exmaple during pope's Agnelus Prayer / Regina Ceali Prayer, there is homily, which is based on Sunday's reading of Gospel). Really dude?
Not only that, but parts of the Mass, of the Roman Missal - there is a Bible verse out of this included. The Mass itself is about the Last Supper, death of Jesus on cross and His resurrection.
And catholicism in Poland, even that it's declying, but IT IS NOT A PRAYING TO THE STATUES! NO! I'm a Pole, I live in Poland. Catholics are declyining - yes, but IT ISN'T a situation like in Spain, where there is a little group attending to the small chapel i cathedral on Sunday Mass, NO! Many great priests are in Poland still.
And quess what - protestants in Poland are liberal-leading. The augsburg-evangelical (lutheran) Church inteoduced woman "priesthood" and the presbytarians openly promote homo-marriages. There is no known catholic church in Poland, which is for that (in cotrast to Germany or USA).
Do you attend the TLM, I've heard there is a lot of them in Poland. Ah yes the Germans... in the Netherlands we've already had our liberal phase in the 1960's to let's say 1990's, where the Germans are at now. Despite (or maybe because of) their culture (the same as we Dutchies have), the best Catholic content is from the USA.
Hey, don't blame us for the woman preachers. Those churches are a rogue denomination, which doesn't believe the Bible is the word of God or infallible. They are eisegesis fake "churches," not Lutheran or even basic Christians. Anyways what are you going to do about Pope Francis? He is going on CBS 60 minutes embarrassing you in realtime.
Once a bigot always a bigot despite attempts to look and sound otherwise
16:10 I thought he had a point about the pitfalls of Catholicism, until he said "praying to statues." Just common Prot slander. If you are a solider and you are in a fox hole and you kiss a picture of your wife, does that mean you love that picture, or is it your wife that you love?
Once a bigot always a bigot
Your videos are pretty balanced with no bias that I could detect. I didn’t know you were a Presbyterian from your other videos so that tells me you were doing a good job of just giving the facts with no bias.
Zoomer I am PRAYING you become Catholic. I want you to know that. Please look into it. Please be open. Please pray.
God bless you.
based
Can you do a video where you go more into the different interpretations of pre-destination?
They don’t worship statues in Poland…
Och really? Next time you'll tell me that my compatriots do not worship paintings too?
RZ doesn't know the meaning of veneration. He's a typical ignorant prot.
@@patrice161 huh?
@@deus_v00lt38 what I said, poles worship paintings and statues as if they were some kind of fetishes
@@patrice161 there is no worship/adoration/latia of any statues or paintings in Polish Catholicism.
I really appreciate when people answer this because it's so helpful to know if one ever had to unexpectedly move, what the next best churches to go to might be if our preferred denomination wasn't there by chance.
When I became Orthodox, I was looking for something as far away from Calvinism as possible. Please tell me I made the right choice.
I been sat here laughing. Was not expecting “Baptists who can read” goodness gracious
Seems unnecessarily scathing.
@@Procopius464couldn’t agree more, especially since I’ve still been trying to read where I’m the Bible it says to baptize babies. Last I checked it was a decision one consciously made.
@@JhonnyL3002 I actually am in a church that baptizes babies. There are some places in the Bible where whole households get baptized at once, so that is the main justification for it. I get that Zoomer doesn't want to go to a Baptist church, but since he believes in theistic evolution he ought to dial back his criticism. There's no wiggle room in Genesis, so who is it that's not reading?
See you at church tomorrow boys
SIR YES SIR
Loved it! It's the most catholic-without-being-catholic choice possible! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Btw, I'm catholic, and I've never felt offended by any of your commentary... On the very contrary, I learned a great deal from your videos. Thanks! :)
I'm learning Pipe Organ. It's a really cool instrument! *Guess which split-off denominations have pipe organs*
(None of them)
Dutch reformed have pipe organs
Beautiful music🙂
A question, but what is exactly the problem with purgatory? Like maccabees 2 12:46 states: It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
Is it not enough? Like why is “wholesome thought” praying for the dead if is useless, by bothering making “sacrifice to be offered for the since of the dead” (maccabees 2 12:43) if god has already decided?
As a reformed Baptist, attending a Presbyterian and about to try out the Wesleyan Methodist, this was really interesting and timely. "Much nicer people" is what I'm looking for.
Best Part about being Moravian is that we're such a small denomination No one ever bashes us LOL.
Which honestly baffles me we're not talked about more considering we're descendants of the Hussites who absolutely wrecked the Roman Catholic Crusaders.
Mad respect for Jan Huss. Your denomination gave a great contribution to Christendom.
Aren,t Bohemians Slavs?
If bro aren't Presbyterian, he will INVENT Presbyterianism
Baptists that can read is INSANE
I ran a similar “bracket.” I was raised in an Evangelical non denominational church, but now I’m theologically literate. I landed on being either Anglican or Catholic. I’m probably going to be Anglican unless I marry a Catholic, because I am very open to Catholicism and would want my kids growing up with united parents and in a denomination that’s pretty strong. This channel has really shaped my beliefs. God bless.
As a Methodist (not umc) you are sadly right most don't know jack crap about theology or even Methodist history
Pleasantly surprised that you chose Anglican over Lutheran. As soon as I saw that match-up I was sweating!
Huh, I guess Redeemed Zoomer really _isn't_ going to be converting to Lutheranism any day now...
"other methodists are just baptists who can read" I feel called out 😂
Didn't even click on the video and called it
Anglican!
Ive never picked a perfect March Madness bracket but i picked this perfectly before i watched your video!
Heads up, according to US copyright law your creative works are copyright by default. You may want to consider providing a clear and explicit grant to the public domain. My father, who has the exact attitude you do, puts a public domain icon and "I grant this work to the public domain" at the bottom of each of his theological articles on his website.
Copyright is not an issue unless Zoomer decides to sue you. It is purely defensive in nature at least in the US.
He did say his denomination seals are not copyrighted in the video, though whether that counts a valid disclaimer or not, he won't sue you over it. You can use it just like how copyrighted stuff appears in almost every video on youtube. Though of course, making it formal may prevent issues no matter how unlikely they will occur.
20:29 At this point it would be between Baptist and Lutheran but that closeness with E. Orth. is still there. There was a time when Lutherans were in dialogue with Bishop Cyril Lucaris of Constantinople but Dositheus of Jerusalem got alarmed and rallied the East against reform. Do you know if there are any English translations of the actual source writings of those events? That might be an interesting read.
Reformed Baptists have sound theology
@@malachite5338 I've been more inclined to the Provisionist view of Leighton Flower lately.
@@glstka5710 could you expound on that?
@@malachite5338 I don't know if you have watched any of Leighton Flowers on his Channel 'Soteriology 101'. Many of his posts are quite long but there are also some short videos. He has done two debates with James White. It's a bit too complicated to expound in the comments section of a video on another subject.
Reformed baptists are reformed. and although the term reformed baptist came in at a later time there was still the 1689 London Baptist confession of faith and it is an exact copy of the Westminster confession except for minor differences and in infant baptism. those are the beliefs I hold and people who are reformed simply because of predestination are not reformed and in my opinion predestination is the worst of the reformed views.
u are spittin' fax rn
Lmfao! 😂 very clever way and fun way of doing a hypothetical ! Cheers 🍻
RZ as an Englishman bought up in traditional anglicanism (not an anglo-catholic, not a basically methodist etc) I was bought up on traditional liturgy and think that you can have a clearer view of what the essence of the Church of England is there than in the Articles of Faith or in the statements bought out by Sir Justin etc. Could you do a video (or some sort of discussion) on what you see to be the theology of the Book of Common Prayer, the traditional form of Anglican worship (and still technically the authorised form of prayer, the far more common forms are officially alternative options). I don’t mean the broad brushstrokes of what prayers are said but the implications of the wording. I’ve always found the description of christ’s sacrifice in the phrase at the Eucharistic Prayer of particular interest that it is “(by his one oblation of himself once offered) a full, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice, oblation, and satisfaction, for the sins of the whole world; and did institute, and in his holy Gospel command us to continue, a perpetual memory of that his precious death, until his coming again”.
If you’ve not read it before, beware of several long sentences, words that have slightly changed meaning over the last 350 years and a weird need to keep praising the King, but I suppose that’s all part of our confusing governance.
It can be easily found on the CofE website here www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/worship-texts-and-resources/book-common-prayer/lords-supper-or-holy-communion
Yay for Anglicanism 🎉🥳 i was baptised in the church of England
RZ doing a march-madness bracket about which *other* denomination he would be is exactly what I've come to expect from this channel! ❤
"Other Methodists are just Baptist who can read."
LoL 😂😆 as a Methodist, that's hilarious!
As a Redeemed Zoomer fan and Baptist who is hyperfixated on being scholarly about my own theology, there is nothing more hilarious than seeing Zoomer totally dunk on us every single video, because he's usually right hahaha💙
Can’t believe you chose Universalist Unitarianism! How bold, how brave!
If I was not Baptist I'll start a new denomination and call it Baptist 2.0
Aren’t you guys up to 2350.0 by now?
@ReformationHomested not really, when many Baptist form off from the main Baptist conventions they really don't change. Also the Independent fundamentalist Baptists are basically just non-denominational Christians who are just honest in saying their Baptists
That is basically how schisms happen
Yes, yes! As a Calvinist with a bishop I am delighted at this outcome ….this was better than the sports channel…I was edge of my seat cheering for my reformed Anglican team. Loving the fun within the Kingdom. Our Triune God is obviously the clear overall winner on Trinity Sunday.
"John Wesley was calvinist" - uh what?
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As a former Baptist, now Anglican who goes to a very traditional, conservative, Anglo-Catholic high church, I love your winner! I love my Church and its tradition.
*I used to never put any other books or objects on top of my KJV that was given to me in 1961. I cherishED it my whole life from when I was just 8 years old. That is up until about 8 years ago! Now it stays on the bottom of a big box of books in my closet. And unless Jesus changes it back into God's Holy word, I will never open it or any other bible again the rest of my life!*
*Satan is spreading his evil across the globe and most people are beginning to see it. But sadly only a tiny few see what he's done to God's word...*
*What The Father has spoken will never change, His promises are still good and our prayers are still answered! Hallelujah!!! But as impossible as this sounds, like so many of the true stories in scripture, our bibles have all been supernaturally changed by Satan in the last several years, right in our homes, in the fulfillment of prophecy. It's being done to prepare for the reign of the antichrist. All languages and all translations have been changed along with concordances, encyclopedias, dictionaries, history books, the original Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic manuscripts. Even the Dead Sea Scrolls have been changed!*
*I'm 71, was saved when I was 10, and have read only the exact same copy of the King James bible my church gave me in 1961. (This does not mean I was a King James onlyist but now I'm glad I never read other ones or I might not have noticed the changes as soon.) I had memorized many scriptures from it through the years. Then in 2014 I started seeing changes in it that I couldn't explain. I had never owned a computer or heard of the Mandela Effect back then. But after being given my first computer in 2016 I finally found out why I had been noticing all of the oddities that I couldn't explain. I then started diligently studying what should actually have been called the "Daniel 7:25 effect". That's where God said He would give the antichrist the power to do this. (Change times and laws, history and scripture) We're seeing many end time prophecies being fulfilled SUPERNATURALLY! This is some of the "lying signs and wonders" God told us He would give the AC power to perform which would even deceive His very elect, if it were possible in 2nd Thessalonians chapter two!*
*God said in the end of days, (NOW!) that He would send us a famine for hearing His words in Amos **8:11** and that He would give the antichrist the ability to do this in Daniel 7:25. In Daniel 12:4 & 12:9 He told him to seal his book until the end days. He told John **_not_** to seal his book because the end time is at hand in Revelation 22:10. One of the Greek definitions of ''seal'' in Strongs concordance is “to protect from Satan”. He also told us to “hide His words in our hearts”, which meant memorize, if not word for word at least the essence of what was written, because He knew this was going to happen.*
*God commanded us to "prove all things", and people **_better_** obey Him, especially on this subject. I urge you to research this. There are many brothers and sisters making videos about the changes with more proof of what was originally written and I have lots more about this in my playlist 👉 which can be found by typing in (PROOF OF BIBLE CHANGE RESIDUE JUNKIE 1)* 👈
*I've continued to stay in God's word by reading what has been documented to be what used to be written and what Satan has been changing. Soon Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled too and we won't be able to find God's word anymore, and the only way it can happen is by not being able to see these videos and PDF written lists of documented changes like the one at (amos)(8)(.)(org)*
*May God bless all who read this with eyes to see this incredible faith strengthener, and how close we are to our Saviour's return!!!!*
*P.S. Everyone is going to learn about this one way or the other. I'm just trying to keep so many people from hearing Jesus explain it to them at the Gate. If you ask for them at the address on my about page I will send you links for 17 films that absolutely prove the snake bite is the mark. And yt hates me, they won't notify me of replies and won't post my answers so write me at residue junkie in one word at g mail for lots more info yt would never allow you to see.*
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*P.P.S. YT will not notify me if you reply here so write me at residue junkie in one word at g mail.*
Not sure if schizo, cult or AI
Let me guess. Next it’s going to be “You’ll never believe this but I had this dream where God showed me the true scripture and told me to write it down for His true followers.” Where have I heard that one before
*The separation of the ''tares'' from the ''WHEAT'' for the Harvest is happening right now!!!*
*WHEAT obey God's commandment to ''prove all things'' even if they believe something contrary to what is being presented. This is how the Holy Spirit leads them into all truth. Then they immediately begin helping to spread the news.*
*Tares on the other hand, always argue or simply ignore anything that they ''think'' is wrong. That's why they will ''perish for a lack of knowledge.''*
*God promised to send a ''famine of hearing His word'' in the last days, and if you don't see that's where we're at now, you're blind **_and_** lost.*
*Now here's the info that is perfectly and distinctly revealing whether someone is WHEAT or a tare because it's by far the most important thing that has happened since the Day of Pentecost! And if they don't investigate it...*
*The AC has not only tricked billions into receiving his mark, he has fulfilled many other end time prophecies which everyone previously misinterpreted. The key one is Amos **8:11**. That's where it tells us about the famine. Everybody used to think it meant our bibles would be taken from us some day, right? NOPE! That prophecy has already been perfectly fulfilled right under everyone's noses!!!*
*On the off chance any WHEAT see this (they make up less than 1% of all who say they're saved) first read Amos **8:11**, then type in (proof of bible change residue junkie 1) AND HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT!!! Then to see proof about the MOTB ask for it at my g mail which is residue junkie in one word.*
*After some of the shock has worn off and you have seen all of these films (I didn't make them) your faith will be 1,000% stronger and you will have grown MUCH closer to the never changing Word of God Jesus Christ ... **_GUARANTEED!!!!!!!_*
*Jesus will explain it to the tares and everyone else at the Gate before sending them all on their way.*
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*P.S. After people have taken all of the required 💉's, they will apply a quantum dot invisible tattoo to their head or hand, but anyone who has had just one has a bluetooth mac # that can be read by any smart phone and when you walk through the deal at an airport they know if you have it. The no buying or selling is happening incrementally and will be complete when cash is abolished and worship can be defined as "to fear, obey and trust in someone or something" which is what they are doing with the Beast System and the Image of the Beast, (NWO and TV!). They also now have triple helix DNA, are no longer human and if they have children they won't be human either! Yes, this absolutely is it, and👉 if you write me at the address on my about page👈 I'll send you 17 **_shocking_** films that will PROVE it to anyone who has the courage to watch them.*
*P.P.S. YT won't notify me if you reply here so write me at my g mail which is residue junkie in one word.*
Praise YHWH!
*LOL, 18 years combined and 4 subs. Perfect indication of a lack of worth.*
“You will know them by their fruits.” That’s the bottom line for me. I have friends from many denominations from evangelical Christian to UCC. What matters to me is the way they show God’s love to the world, display the fruits of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Follow God in whatever way brings you closer to Him and helps you shine His light.
I hope he says methodist
"...Jesus said by their fruit you will know them; He didn't say by their valid apostolic succession you will know them."
Best quote.
You do know the Bible is fine with making statues; its the worship of the statues that's the problem
In fact, the bible even gives instructions for adding winged angel figures to the arc of the covenant (Ex 25:18-22). Or is "hammered gold" somehow not "graven"?
Zoomer,, I really think you misunderstand the baptist tradition. You communicated that baptists all of a sudden decided to be calvinist because of John Piper. There are two problems with this. It completely ignores the particular baptist tradition (Charles Spurgeon, long before John Piper). The second issue is conflating those who more accurately refer to themselves as reformed like voddie baucham and James White on the basis of believing major tenants of the reformed tradtition just with a baptist spin on it, and those of the "young restless and reformed" group which identify with MacArthur and Piper and Platt and thus identify as reformed solely on the basis of predestination.