Zoom G2x Four / G2 Four: In Depth Review (How to create presets)
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- In this video we will share a demo review of the Zoom G2 X Four and the G2 Four. First of all we will hear the unit in action with a demo song, then we will describe the technical characteristics of the unit, than we will hear more sounds, also building together presets, checking out a clean and overdriven tone, and finally I will give my 2 cents. So, I hope you enjoy and please don’t forget to subscribe and ring the bell as it would be of a great help! Thank you!
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⏰Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:33 - Demo Song (G2 X Four in action)
2:42 - G2 X Four description
8:08 - More sound and How To build presets
18:58 - My Two Cents
24:15 - Unboxing
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I got a Zoom g2x four last week. I own a Hx stomp XL and a Boss GT-1. I have previously owned a Boss GT1000 core and a Boss GX100. I am “modeler curious.” I think that condition might soon get its own definition and designation from the psychology societies.
Anyway, I used the Zoom G2x four for 3 gigs last week. Two were direct input gigs and the other I used the G2x four for effects in front of an amp. It worked really well in all cases. I brought the HX stomp with me as insurance in case the G2x four let me down. But it performed very well and I left the stomp in the bag.
I bought the Zoom hoping to get a really small and light unit with a built in expression pedal. And I am really glad I did!
Also, I powered the unit via USB using an Amazon mobile battery pack for charging phones. It worked without issue and for a really long time without draining the battery much at all. That may be the trade-off benefit for the crappy screen (and it is crappy).
I spent quite a few hours with it getting patches that worked for me. But it was fun and well worth it. I have a few IR’s that I am pretty partial to and use in the stomp. But honestly, I do not miss the ability to load IR’s in the Zoom. The amp models sound good with the cabinet simulations that Zoom programmed at the factory.
Hi Jeff, thank you so much for sharing your experience! Interesting points!
I share with you the "modeller curious" condition...😀👍
what about delay/reverb tails when changing preset?
Jeff, Are you still playing gigs with this? I hope to try some with my Epiphone Casino soon.
Take care.
Matt in MS
Super helpful comment. I am in the same situation where I have a main amp modeller, the GT1K Core, which I am really happy with, and I'm looking for an affordable but 100% presentable direct-to-PA modeller as a back up. I think your evaluation of the G2X fits the bill.
Leo - your videos are always a pleasure. Besides the great content you provide in terms of reviewing features, you also provide user-friendly and easy to follow tutorials which, considering how attention-challenged most of us are now, are much appreciated 💯
Thank you so much, these are really great compliments that make me happy!!!
Thank you!
Very informative and insightful, thank you for sharing Leo. 🙂
You are welcome!
Thanks Leo for this review, I was anticipating it. I recently got the Nux MG 30, thanks to you. Love it. I was thinking of getting another pedal to avoid abusing the MG 30. I will wait for the MG 30 updated version.
You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!
Thank you also for sharing your final choice!
Great video as Always. Totally agree with you.
Thank you so much, really appreciated!!!
Great video and playing as always! Been a Zoom user since the 505. I hope Zoom adds the IR feature and assignable footswitches. In the coming models.
Hi, thank you I'm happy that you like the video!!!
Thank you also for sharing your findings!
The best part is listen to you playing
😀👍🙏 Thank you soooo much!!!! This is a great compliment!!!
Leo you are amazing. You buy these stuff with your own money so that you can leave an unbiased review. I hope you prosper and get more subscriber.
Thank you so much, I'm happy that you appreciate these videos!
Let me just add that, to be fair, I'm not buying all these units, as some of then has been sent to me by the manufacturers in order to test them out.
Obviously, I always try my best to provide you with unbiased opinions.
Thank you!
I hope so, Nokia phone's were built like tank's!
Great review, as always. I've long said that a person "can" save too much money. I think this is one of those cases. The screen UI is a deal-killer.
😀...thank you for sharing!
Thanks Leo for your wonderfully videos very helpful 👍 I think I'll go with the mg 400 or ampero 1 after watching this viedo
Hi, you are welcome, and I'm happy to have been of some help!
looking forward for your nux trident review.
😀...well, I can't confirm...so far, I have not received any info from NUX about this product, and actually I don't know if they are gonna send me a unit to review.
Let's keep our fingers crossed, as it seems a very interesting product
Thank you!
Your review is spot on, Leo - I had a Zoom G1on about 10 years ago and it was great…but now in 2023 they’re offering basically the same old product 🤦♂️
Thank you so much, I'm happy that you like the review!
Thank you also for sharing your findings!
I have a G1XOn, and I have to agree. The G1X Four is just a building upon of the features for the G1XOn, with the interface more versatile, yet more convoluted and less intuitive, and the addition of being able to load IR's. These new G2 series units seem to go backwards, not only going back to the G1On/G1XOn issue of lack of external IR features, but now you can't pair different cabs with different amps? Maybe they should have used one of those IR layers for the actual speakers, and then used the other two to blend isolated power tube IR's. TBH it makes more sense to buy the G1 Four or G1X Four and then spend the $200 on an IR loader pedal like the Cab Box from Joyo or the Solid Studio from NuX. Or, spend the extra $50 on a unit with an internal FX loop and then get a cheaper power tube emulation pedal (Guitar Fetish, based in Sarasota, FL, USA, makes the Twin Clean Drive for $80, but I don't know about international shipping outside the US), or a cheaper IR loader from Sonicake or Flamma or something, and load power tube IR's on it.
got to say, I usually think that gear people aren't good musicians, but you are the proverbial exception. You have musical TASTE, something many guitarists don't get. :)
Thank you so much, this is really a great compliment!!!
Thank you!!!
Tre fratelli gemelli musicisti, che bella famiglia in armonia :-)
😀...ogni tanto abbiamo degli alterchi anche noi...soprattutto il bassista vorrebbe essere più protagonista...ma poi troviamo sempre un accordo...😀
Thanks Leo - I think you have uploaded the first comprehensive review of this unit.
I will forgive the plastic look, but not the screen or the dysfunctional paid app; and the inability to separate amp from cab is just stupid.
I doubt they will sell many.
You are welcome!
Also for me the screen sounds too much outdated...in my upcoming comparison G2 vs MG 400...we will share other considerations!
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Yes please, we are all looking forward to that comparison, hopefully with some bassman or plexi models, in clean, crunch and lead tones!
Great review as always Leo , a message to zoom :
We are in 2023 ,having no ir loading even at this price point is a dealbreaker .
Thank you!!!
Yes...IRs nowadays are pretty important...
@@LeoGibsonGtr even the cuvave cube baby wich costed 35 euros can load 10 user irs …😂😂😂
Yes...the cuvave is pretty impressive...
@@LeoGibsonGtr IRs are pretty important you say.... to who? I will repeat what I said in an earlier comment, but the greatest guitarists that ever graced our earth did not need IR loading to accomplish all they have accomplished... what makes you think IR loading is so important and to who? Bedroom players?
Yes, as it was for Line6 when they didn't have it for anything after HD500... and Boss was even later. :(
Thanks for review!
I like this carbon-like design. Screen the same as it was in n-series, not so preety, bad view angles, but less power needed for such display.
Sounds better then prev series (maybe this 3-layered cabs helps), but amp and drive modeling of ampero one and nux mg-400 are better.
Intresting to compare it sound with match amps of zoom g6 or n-series
Hi, you are welcome!
Good suggestions...yes, I'm doing a comparison vs the MG 400...actually also the comparison with the G6 would be interesting...I would see what I can do...
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr i think amp modeling algorithms and all stomps/effect algorithms are the same in g3n/g5n/g6/g1four and in this device. The only difference is cab block (IR in g6, 3-levels cabs here).
Could be...a comparison video would be for sure interesting, even if we can not be 100% sure about the differences causes.
Thank you!
Thank You Leo very well presented but you did not mention anything on the Drum Bests does It have any Latin Drums like Bossa, Rumba,bolero, cha cha etc ? Thx again and I have the older A1X four for Acoustic getr. effects and like it very much but only has 30 sec loop only compared to 180 sec with G2x
You are welcome! Yes, I have not reviewed the drum section, but I have noticed from your other messages that you have already found the answers. Thank you!!!
I still use my super old PS02 (has a killer emulation section) and now have the Zoom R4 multitrack. That has some effects and amp combos and got this Zoom G2x Four because it has two effects I wanted from the R4. I also wanted a backup rig to mirror my presets in the old PS02, which are really fantastic. Mine is arriving this week and snagged a used unit and will report back.
Hi, thank you very much for sharing!
Thanks for another great video. My question is could you detect the layered ir technology in your touch or when using the volume knob of the guitar. If so, that what explain the inability to load 3rd party irs.
Thank you for sharing your findings!
In my modest opinion, IRs should always be an option.
Hello Leo, please make a tone comparison for Zoom G2X Four and NUX MG300/ MG400 / MG30. Thanks!
Hi, thank you for your suggestion!
Here you can find a tone comparison G2x Four vs MG 400: ruclips.net/video/8u7dUi5JnS4/видео.html
How does this compare to the ZOOM MS-50G? It seems fairly similar, hopefully the G2x is improved?
Very nice demo. Please compare it with zoom ms 50g and nux mg300
Hi, thank you, I'm really happy that you like the demo! I'm actually making a video comparison with the MG 400, which is the new version of the MG 300.
Thank you!
Hi! Thx for this share 😊, i want tu put it in the loop of my marshall sv 20 only for a couple of effects like delays, reverb and chorus, do you think it s possible? Thks
Hi, yes, I think it's possibile.
Hello Leo, great video. I'm actually a "Zoom fan". Unfortunately, the Zoom g2x four is no longer up-to-date and Zoom will probably plan for the IR's on the next device! I hope so! Otherwise Zoom is unfortunately off the market! And that would be a shame. My favorite is the G1xOn. It's really good. Unfortunately, there weren't any IRs back then. Great Chanel!
Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the channel!!!
Thank you also for sharing your experience and your opinions!!!
Thank you very much for your review! It seemed to me that it sounds a little better than its predecessor, but I really expected more from this unit. Not being able to put our IR's subtracts many points from the competition. I think Zoom is digging his own grave. Greetings from Argentina!
You are welcome and thank you for sharing your findings!
IRs are overrated, you have been brainwashed by consumerism, get back to basics! The greatest guitarists that ever lived didn't need IR loading or 250 effects.... please get down from the clouds! Zoom is good enough for most bedroom players, you don't need more.
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I guess a couple of effects are enough for you. I play on different stages and I don't use an amp, so being able to choose IR's is a must for me. If you do not leave your bedroom it is more than clear that you do not need it.
@@RubenZarate Good to hear you are not just a bedroom youtuber then.
Superb and honest review as always , you're a warranty if someone want to know the truth
Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!!
Hi Léo, do you think it's cool to have the Zoom G2 Four to add to the Ampero 2 Stomp doing only modulations?
Hi, yes you can do it. Obviously you will feed the Zoom with a mono signal, therefore you don't have to put in the chain stereo effects, before feeding the Zoom...at least in my opinion.
Thank you!
Hola, gracias por el vídeo! Una consulta: utilizo la aplicación para celular? Cuantos efectos/amps extras se pueden descargar? gracias
Hi, thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!
I have not downloaded the app, as it is not free...even if very cheap. As far as I know, the app do not offer more effects or amps.
Thank you!
Sua demonstração tem muito mais capricho que vários comerciais das próprias marcas, que muitas vezes são mal equalizadas.
Hi, I'm sorry I'm not sure I have understood what you mean... even because unfortunately I don't speak you language.
@@LeoGibsonGtr His demonstration is much more whimsical than many commercials for the brands themselves, which are often poorly equalized.
Thank you Leo for this absolutely coherent review! I agree with you 100 percent. I also bought the G2x four and compared it with my G5n, which I use as a backup for my Kemper stage.
The display and the menu navigation is really bad. The sounds have gotten a little better, they sound freer, more airy. Still no comparison to the Kemper, but really good. But the distance to the G5n is not enough for me. The handling and possibilities of the G5n and that for the same price as the G2x four made me return it.
Thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the review!
Thank you also for sharing your findings and your final decision...interesting points!
great to hear it sounds better than the g5n
Hello i have zoom g5n do you think g2x four is better for sounds and price thanks - i m french
@@christophe8779 Hi Christophe, go and test it. In my opinion, it sounds a bit better. At the moment I test the Valeton GP-200, which is really great! Very good sound and above all very good intuitive usability. Also lots of features.
The possibility to use USB to power the unit is very usefull in live situation. I use a power bank in my Zoom g3x and I'm free from power cables and buzz or noise. I hope it become a standard for all unit, even the high level ones.
Hi, yes, I totally agree!! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for review, Leo 👏 I have mixed feelings about new ZOOM devices. I like amp modelling sound quality but design is weird even in G6. G3n, G3xn, G5n - these are the latest models that I liked externally. Fullmetal black solid body. G2x four seems overpriced 😑
You are welcome!
Thank you for sharing your findings...the market is pretty crowded at this price point...
The Zoom Multi-Stomp is the best budget modeler there is for the price…I totally underestimated it until I bought one.
@@THINJIMI same here. I was pleasantly surprised how well it sounded.
@@swamperjmb - You know I’ve tried better Zoom modelers (by price anyway) and they don’t sound as good as the MS50G. I was going to try the G11, but the G6 sucked as far as I was concerned, so I bought a Quad Cortex! Now, I am in guitar heaven. I have had my battles with modelers over the years.
Maybe I missed it in the video but, is it possible to turn off the cabinet section? I have a buddy looking to buy a multi effects unit that is pretty simple and he would just run it through an amplifier no need for the cab simulation or IR in this case.
Hi, tha amp and cab block is an unicum. You can activate the overall amp / cab block or deactivate it.
Thank you!
Ciao, al di là della bassa qualità dello schermo di questa pedaliera, come qualità del suono quale pensi sia migliore tra Zoom G2X e Nux MG-30?
Ciao, un video dedicato al confronto con la NUX MG 400 (in termini di suoni simile alla mg 30) è in arrivo sul canale (direi entro domenica)...quindi ... stay tuned!
Grazie!
Can someone do a comparison with the 'direct predecessor' the G1 Four? Like many people here, I own that fine unit. I'm not sure I need this. Thanks!
Hi, good idea! May I ask you if you are interested only in the tone differences or also in the features differences?
I like portability. Does this sound like a big improvement on sound compared to later models.
I have not done a proper comparison yet, but to me, it sounds a little bit better. Maybe I will do more advanced test in the coming weeks. Thank you!
for me nothing beats the zoom ms 50g for both sounds and functionality
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Quando que a Zoom irá lançar uma versão do Ms50g? Pedal sensacional.
Hi, unfortunately I don't know...but it's a good question for sure...
I'm using Zoom pedals like 14+ years, i think the zoom g1x and g2 was a practical solution, since the g3 pedals the stompbox approach is weird and only increases the price. Imo Zoom needs to hear your customers, add IRs to the small pedals like the G2 Four and the possibility to change the chain parameters in the same patch like the other manufacturers do.
Hi, thank you so much for sharing your experience and your findings!
Ciao, grazie per il video. Pensi suoni meglio del g3n?
Grazie a te Alfonso! Penso di si, ma non sono sicuro al 100% perché non ho il g3n qui con me per fare una prova diretta.
Grazie ancora.
Also does it have any good Acoustic tones and Samples ? Thx
Hi, it does not as far as I know...but I'm not 100% sure.
Thank you!
Apologies if I missed it but would you compare the sound quality to a) more pricey Zoom devices and b) other brands. Could be a matter of taste but I’ve never been sold on the Zoom sound.
Hi, yes...I need to find the time to make some other comparisons...in the meantime, if you want, you may check out the comparison vs the NUX MG 400: ruclips.net/video/8u7dUi5JnS4/видео.html
Thank you for your message!
@@LeoGibsonGtr My mistake. I wasn’t asking you to make more comparison videos (though that’s always welcome! :)) - I was just wondering how this Zoom compares to more expensive Zoom devices and how it compares to other devices. I simply have to buy something in a week’s time, and while I want it to sound good, I also want it to last a long time. If have spend more for dependability I can do it. Any advise?
Hi, I have the feeling that the G2X four sounds actually better than the G6 or G11...even if it has less options...but I have to do a direct comparison to be sure...
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Ah ok got it. It’s a new generation pedal. Thanks.
How is the looper, the one thing i hate about loopers of these new Zoom consoles is that loopers are included as effect modules. This means you cannot switch patch while looping and that sucks. Unlike Zoom G2.1 Nu and G5 which i have used before, they had an independent looper that was not in anyway affected by patch changes.
Hi, as far as I understood, also in this model the looper is considered as an effect block.
Thank you for your question!
Zoom reigned for decades in the field of budget multi-effects pedals, before the arrival of IRs.
I think a lot of people thought that the updated G1Four would become the ultimate budget multi-effects pedal, but apparently Zoom is perhaps becoming the Nokia of cell phones.
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Yes, IRs are a pretty common feature nowadays....
The problem is that you can justify any lack of features with "its eAsiEr fOr bEgiNnErs"
why you didnt use a cabinet effect and just the amp ?
Hi, I'm not sure if I understand the question...but this pedal doesn't not have a cabinet block...you have only an amp block, which contains also the cabinet and you can not split the two.
Thank you for your question
Nice lick at 2:08
Thank you, I'm happy that you like it!!
How does this compare to the Zoom g3xn?
Hi, unfortunately I don't have the G2nx therefore I can not tell from direct experience. If someone knows, please drop here a message!
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thanks a lot, for this Test - Indeed, it's much too expensive for what is offered!🤦 But LEO, I'm still waiting for a Review of the DONNER "ARENA 2000"!?! 🤷♂️
Why You don't buy it, like the ZOOM, or all the other Modelers, etc?
PS. my best Wishes for 2023 from German
I am also waiting for the review of this Arena 2000 unit.
Hi, you are welcome! Well, I can't buy all these devices...This Zoom was interesting and I think that has a vast majority of guitarists who are interested in a review. I'm not sure that Donner has such a public. Obviously, if they want to send me a unit, I will do a review and some comparisons.
Thank you! Happy 2023 to you too!!!
I have g1x four and after tried nux mg30, valeton gp200, ampero 2 and now a happy helix user I still keep the g1x four, but I can't see even one reason why I should buy this product..
Budget wise, tech, sound, looks, design, and not seen yet desktop app.. even nux mg300 will crush this easily in the market
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!
Yes, the market is pretty crowded and the competition is stronger and stronger....we are lucky...as we have many choices!
Yes indeed, and we are so lucky we have people like you, Leo who can put their first hands on these products and show us for what they are. Good job and good playing as always!
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you find the video useful!!
Hi, I would like to know if you can change presets using the looper?, I want to know if looper continues to play even if we add a bass preset, a distortion preset like overdub? will all the presets (clean and distortion and bass) play simultaneously? This is done with the g1x zoom four
For me, NUX MG-400 is the best for a budget multi-effect electric guitar
I'm working about a direct comparison between the MG 400 vs the G2 / G2x Four....therefore...stay tuned! 😀
Bro please make a video on nux trident
Hi, I'm contact with NUX...maybe I will get a unit to review...
Can you have two delays/reverbs/etc?
As far as I know, yes, you can.
@@LeoGibsonGtr I was asking as I am putting a backup pedalboard where all my drives would be analog, but wanted to add a single multi fx pedal to cover alltime/modulation needs. I was thinking about TC Plethora, but price wise Plethora is much more vs let's say small Zooms. I don't care about IRs, amp sims etc. Just time based and modulation effects
Oouf! You have to wonder what Zoom is up to! For E26 more you could get an MG30... bad move Zoom! Terrible screen, criminally charging for an app, no Mac/PC app, no custom IRs, no amp/cab choice and it looks terrible... Im a fan of a lot of Zoom stuff. I have a Livetrak L-20 as my main interface, G5 as my mad scientist fx lab, MS70 CDR, my pal has a H4n and I even bought the Arc circle thing (Both versions!!!) but this... this is a HARD pass! Thanks for the honest and thorough review Leo - happy new year!
You are welcome and thank you for sharing your experience and your findings!
Considering the competition...I do agree...the screen is really poor ...
Agree about the price, the screen and other things you can get used to - the point for me is: did their amp modeling improve or not? My G1 Four sounds absolutely amazing and it didn't cost me more than $100 when it came out! It is my first and only zoom product having used a Vox Tonelab for more than a decade but I believe Zoom has really great products for the price. Nux is not bad either!
tem uma simulação de microfone, para por nos amplis ou gabinetes,,, acredito q isso nem precise talvez... ou como se fossem mais de uma caixa, para uma pequena ideia em delay, como som ao vivo, tocando em mais de um local... obrigado
I'm sorry, but I don't understand...I've tried with google translate, but the translation is not clear to me.
Thank you for you message!
existe simulação de microfone junto aos gabinetes? @@LeoGibsonGtr
posso inserir mais de um gabinete, como simulação de dois deles? tentando imitar som aovivo? @@LeoGibsonGtr
Hi, you can not as far as I remember.
Hi, it does not as far as I remember.
Come suona in confronto alla G6? La tecnologia è la stessa ? A parte il discorso Ir.
Grazie
Ciao, non credo usino la stessa tecnologia....da quanto avevo capito con la G2 ha iniziato un nuovo percorso per il modeling di Zoom, crerdo diverso da quanto fatto prima.
Grazie
@@LeoGibsonGtr grazie!
Grazie a te!
Ciao Leo. Alla fine l' ho presa. E ti dirò che mi trovo davvero bene. È vero che gli ampli non sono diciamo modificabili ma ha dei suoni davvero credibili. Sembra incredibile ma ho preferito questa a mooer Ge200 ed Ampero
I was thinking about getting one, but I already have a G3XN that seems more versatile, at least it let's me use multiple cabinets with each amp. They really need to work on that ugly screen! Lol
Hi, thank you so much for sharing!
Zoom G2four tem tap tempo?
Hi, yes
Hi Leo..
I subscribed. I thought I was subscribed before. I'm looking for just such a unit / multi effects to get rid of amps at gigs and to record with, and I'm on a budget and these are interesting to me.. I'm also looking at the Headrush MX5 I think it is, which is small and about a 100 dollars more, but you can do more stuff like add your own IR's, etc.
Thank you for this video kind sir.
Please take care.. By the way. Where are you from? You have a strong accent.)
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Thank you so much, your subscription really means a lot to me!!!
Thank you also for sharing your findings, and in the channel I have done a review also of the MX5, that you may want to check out here: ruclips.net/video/QCsh4CS4B3c/видео.html
I'm from Italy....you are right...the accent is strong...but so far I have not enough time to improve my English...maybe in the future.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr your English is better than you think😁. Accent doesn't bother me at all. You're more detailed than other reviewers and the amount of information. You provide so much more than the guitar print publications.
If they could just add MIDI control and an effects loop to the MS-50G, I would be set.
Thank you for sharing!
ZOOM have been incorporating a feature, for years, an effects chain, that other pedalboards in its price range and range, and even higher, do not incorporate, this new G2 FOUR also brings it:
It's the flexibility to put the effects you want and where you want, only limited by the processing capacity of the DSP. In other words, it can repeat effects or blocks in the signal chain, that other manufacturers in its price range offer this feature?
Hi, typically all the units offers the possibility to put effects in whatever position you want.
Rarely units in this price range offers the possibility to replicate many instances of the same fx block many time. Typically we have a block where we can put many different effects.
Thank you for pointing it out.
@@LeoGibsonGtr "Rarely units in this price range offers the possibility to replicate many instances of the same fx block many time. Typically we have a block where we can put many different effects."
Exactly, ,thanks for your answer and review ;)
Many people don't know how to appreciate this feature of zoom multi-effects pedalboards, a feature that can be very useful, for example having 2 OVERDRIVE blocks, 1 CHORUS block, 1 PHASER block and 1 DELAY block, in the same preset or patch.
In the EFFECT mode of the Zoom G2X FOUR "it can be used as a standard pedalboard with stomp boxes" making multiple combinations of effects or blocks, according to the user's needs.
People criticize ZOOM a lot, they say they live in the past... but this feature is from years ago, it appears in cheap products like "ZOOM G1on", other manufacturers haven't implemented it in their current products yet... so Who lives in the past and does not make innovations? ... it's not just ZOOM, the same could be said of other manufacturers.
Great review, as always with Leo. I'm here to be a little picky, though... Hehehe.
Leo, are now the Trident or the ME-90 screens the worse ones that you've ever used? Both are smaller than the Zoom's one... Just saying. And that units are around double the price.
Hi, well, the ME 90 and the Trident have a completely different approach, where the screen is actually almost not needed, where the Zoom is heavily based on screen for the overall operations you want to do.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr More or less agree. It´s not that I want to defend Zoom for the display choice. That said, the mobile app (yeah, 1€, I know) turns the UI into a great one. I think most of the functions to be made "on the fly" are easily made with unit´s display and knobs, while complex can be done with an old Android phone that can be plugged in. Then you have a hi quality screen, with perfect touch function and intuitive operation. If you ask me if I prefer a tiny color built-in screen vs a mobile phone (or tablet, or iPad) touch screen... well, I´m not sure What I´d prefer, but I guess it´d be the app option (which no other unit in this price range has, as far as I know). And I also think that a screen like that is probably unavoidable to be able to power the device through USB bus. The fact that the app is not free is weird... but if you think it for a second, I see it like a symbolic thing. Nowadays, the G2X Four can be purchased for 193€... so 194€ with the app.
Sound is nice, screen is bad. i wonder what's the latency. I have g6 and latency is so bad. Good tone tho. I also still have G3X, better latency but worse sound. Good cleans tho
Hi, I have test the latency...I will reveal it in my upcoming video comparison G2x vs MG 400....therefore...stay tuned!
Can the cabs be disabled?
Hi, there is not a cab block. There is a unique amp block which has the amp, the cab and the mic sim...thereore you cannot disable only the cab
Thanks!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks for the reply Leo !
I guess the cab gets automatically disabled when you select the output to front amp or to power amp options, instead of output to PA. That can be done in general settings.
I was surprised that it's unable to use different cabinets. I have the g3xn that cost less and lets you choose between 16 different cabinets. 😏
Thank you for sharing! I do agree....
I for one am happy for a non IR loader unit... when does all of this computer and digital fussing around get to be too much? I wonder how long it will take for other companies to catch on to this Multi-layer IR that actually does have some logic when it comes to different volumes, playing styles, etc. But if it's not for you, don't go looking at an apple and bad mouth it because it is not an orange. You corksniffers go too far!
As a 505 user in the 90s and a g2.1 user in the 00s it is heartbreaking to see this product fall so short.
I can stand an ugly product (ugly plastic, ugly screen) if specs are really worth and above what competitors offer at similar price point, unfortunately it is not the case.
The competition is steep and zoom really needs to step up their game.
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!
Yes, the competition is getting stronger and stronger...fortunately this is so good for us...as we have more options and more value for money!
You forgot the cabinet in patch..?
Hi, it is included in the amp block: as I said in the video, the amp block is an "all in one" block, with cab and mic included.
Thank you for your message!
Having cabs separate from the amp model is my favorite feature of my Zoom G1X Four so I’ll be spending my upgrade money on an IR loader not this.
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Actually also for me the possibility to load IRs is important.
Thank you!
As a Zoom multi fx user myself, all I can say that Zoom follow a similar path that Netflix The Witcher "showrunner" did, you know what I mean...
😀...thank you for sharing.
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Zoom, BOSS, Roland, Korg, TASCAM, Ibanez, Yamaha, Pearl...❣ do you guys know what they all have in common??🤔
Well, nationality?
@@LeoGibsonGtr BINGO!!👍
Zoom has to stop wrapping what is otherwise a decent product into something that looks like it came off the toy shelf at Target. This Pep Boys fake carbon fiber look screams cheap. I can recall purchasing their original 9002 decades ago and that was something that not only sounded great for the era but LOOKED great. Sound matters, absolutely, but when you look at something like the Ampero and this, it's comically embarrassing. On a final note, it's 2023 Zoom...why do you insist on display graphics that look like they were created with an Etch-a-Sketch?
I like their G3n, G3xn, G5n solid metal black devices. Nice quality and look.
...in terms or display...I do agree with you...
I completely agree. Great demo song Leo. I had a Zoom G5 in the past and didn't bond with it and got rid of it for Line 6 products. Such an odd choice for Zoom to stick with the ridiculous B&W display in 2023. If you're going to do that, then make the price point lower. God bless and rock on 👍😁🎸
Thank you, I'm happy that you like the song! Thank you also for sharing your findings! Yes...black and white in 2023...pretty odd...
Well about the screen it can run off usb computer power
Then there could be a power limitation
There is one more thing that is a big turn off for me, it wasn't mentioned here, but I guess things haven't changed much from G3gn. The looper and drum machine aren't separate units but effects that have to be attached to each patch. And that makes them pretty unusable when you want to use different sounds while playing over the loop. Simply speaking, you can't change patches. And switching on / off effects within the pach you're playing at the moment is almost impossible with such small numbers of footswitches. I would buy this effect if this issue was fixed.
Hi, thank you for sharing!!
Interesting point!
does not accept external IRs, no color screen, no touch screen, no midi. Does not offer features like the gp 200, gp200 lt , ampero one and ge200 and nux mg series
Exactly ... as far as I understood...
Those are lots of requirements, good for the pro, but overkill for the typical bedroom - the Zoom products are perfect for non cork sniffers who KNOW how to create a good tone from scratch.
Zoom should just reissue an updated G3X with IRs, built like a tank with as many connections as you need.
Hi, thank you for sharing!!
Zoom had a bag prod quality its efect often dont lastmore than 1 year there's always something broken, not like boss/ valeton
Hi, thank you for sharing!
No ir loading: bonus for me. The app is cheap and is rather pay for that than pay for a colour screen I already have in my pocket. Horses for courses, but for me these things are a bonus.
Hi, thank you or sharing! yes, everybody has his own preferences.
Everyone seems to be so gun ho about IR loading but it seems too much editing and playing around with software and computers. Bedroom players have become very cork sniffy, very american to always want the newest and most expensive toy out there. My Zoom G1 Four can be made to sound AMAZING with some tweaking, and it didn't cost me $600 like helix or worse QC, Fractal, etc. I love not to have ot use a computer to edit my tones or have to load IR cabs.
My first modeller was a ZOOM505 in 1999. Such a waste of money that was. Now 24 years apart seems like not much changed by this company.
If you want a cheap multieffect buy a Digitech RP360. It's an almost 10 years old model, but I still use it as a backup next to my Fractal FM3. My second backup would be a flyrig like the Sonicake Black Hammer if I would use an amp again.
Hi, thank you for sharing your experience and your findings!
NUX-MG400 or Donner Arena 2000
Hi, I don't have the Arena, therefore I can't tell from direct experience...I'm sorry.
Thank you for your message!
Zoom in terms of guitar fx processors has been lacking behind for some years now, if they don't change their philosophy about their products now, looks, UI, options etc. up to the competition, they're going to be out of business zoom... I mean soon. DigiTech is already going through something similar and it's future is uncertain, but at least they have put iconic products in the market in the recent years, meaning Drop Tune series, and DOD pedals reissues, but unfortunately the same can't be said about Zoom.
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!
Yes, the competition is getting stronger and stronger...fortunately this is so good for us...as we have more options and more value for money!
@@LeoGibsonGtr BTW recently I bought the Ampero II Stomp, and your videos had a lot to do with my decision, and I have to say that I'm really really satisfied by its sound and performance so far, I´m a little of an "advanced" user, creating my own IRs and kind of things, and Ampero II Stomp seems to be completely up to the job, Thanks a lot for the information you are sharing with us!
Your are welcome, and I'm really happy that you found my videos interesting and helpful! This really means a lot to me!!!
Well, let's stick to the positives: at least on video the fake carbon look is not as bad as on Zoom's promo photos...
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zoom is completely stuck in 2010... sounds decent, but there are so many better stuff in the market (in look and technology)
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Yes the market is pretty crowded...
They added undo redo on the looper..40 second mode. And there’s a tap tempo option. But they took the battery option away. And like he mentioned the screens a joke. I don’t know, why they keep bringing these updated petals into market. It’s like they’re in a room by themselves When they design this. And now we have to wait three more years for the next (try) one, they should buy the five competitive pedals in this range and take the best from everything. Love zoom but, Very disappointed. This thing is gonna price drop like a rock . 229€? Ha !
Buy a used boss gt1. And have money leftover for lunch .
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings and your experience!!
sounds like the typical cork sniffing, i need a helix bad before my blood pressure drops TGPer
Zoom needs to open its eyes and see the market, the Chinese are many kilometers ahead.
Hi, thank you for sharing!
the sound close to g1x, very bad, they didnt look how nux made a killer pedal
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Desing so much ugly, but sound is Nice. Like from 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Thank you for sharing!!!
This Casio watch user interface🤦♂️. Dear Zoom, it is 21st century in case you haven’t noticed
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colored screen will degrade overtime zoom is using led black n white that will last together with the unit for a long time and it has a reputation for robust build ill still go with this cause it's new 2022 ir is not a problem just buy a spker the likes of fender twin reverb
Hi, thank you for your comments and for sharing your opinion.
Well, interesting point of you....but I still prefer color screen (it is up to manufacturers to build long lasting color screen...if they are not able...well, in my opinion it's not a pro) and the option to load IRs is super important for me.
Sounds good, but that screen!!! Maybe paying for the app could forgive it just to use it wirelessly, but for more than $140 not even his mother buys it
Hi, thank you for sharing...interesting point about the app...even if I think that it works only wired and not via bluetooth.
@@LeoGibsonGtr You're right, I saw the app in the store and it connects via usb C... What a disappointment what they have done
Maybe, to work wirelessly, they would have need to install a bluetooth chip in the G2....and therefore reducing the margins or having to increase the price...
zoom needs to wake up and keep up with it's competitors or end up like nokia.
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Interesting comparison with Nokia...
Zoom company live in 90' reminder korg ax1500.. as we can see the display is annoying.. btw killer tone 👍
Hi, thank you for sharing and I'm happy that you like the tone!
Thumbs up for your video.
I’m gonna give this box 2 thumbs down.
Zoom has just about permanently lost my business.
Thank you so much for the thumbs up!!
b&w display, fake carbon fibre, 2023 zoom suck
Zoom G1 ON, tone shit, price 100 bucks.
Zoom G1 Four, tone shittier, 170 bucks.
Zoom G2x Four, tone shittiest, 260 bucks.
Hi, may I ask you why it is not possible to reproduce at home the tones you are hearing in the video ?
@@LeoGibsonGtr Ok, you win. I edited this out.
You should change your name to ihateitall😅
@@fabiejamespalomares2413 Maybe Zoom should come up with something worth it.
@@iloveitall yeah, g2x four should also be priced 170 bucks