I got the Scrambler 1200 XC, and I love this motor. My previous bike was an Aprilia Tuono 1100RR, and this 1200cc twin has the same torque at 3,300 rpm as my Touno did at 7,500 rpm. (Rear wheel, on the same dyno) Considering on the street I almost never went above 7,500 rpm before shifting, that makes this Triumph a fun bike. Especially combined with this fantastic transmission. What people don't realize, is that it's not about peak horsepower numbers unless you're on the track on the straightaway. It's about power under the curve. There's a lot of power under the curve with the Triumph 1200cc motors. At the same time, they aren't so highly tuned that they drive angry around town. They'll be a docile as you want them to be, comfortably cruising along, until you want to unleash the torque. On the street, torque is a bigger benefit. This motor wants to lift the front wheel from 2,000 rpm, lol. It's great fun. I would have got a Speed twin but my back is shot and I wanted the adjustable shocks and extra travel to extend my riding years.
Like @Motografs said: by far, the best, most informative review I've seen of this bike. When I saw that it was 21 minutes long, I feared it would be just another video full of helmet cam footage, and a lot of useless, unedited jabbering. Instead, there's nothing here that's superfluous - just lot's of great information, answering just about any question I would have about whether this bike would be a good fit for me. Glad you went a little bit out of your wheelhouse and reviewed this bike. I imagine there are a lot of people out there like myself - basically, those who come from a sport bike background, but who's bodies have aged out of dealing with clip-ons and bent knees on the street. Performance and handling (if not outright horsepower) are still near the top of my list of what matters in a motorcycle, and you've covered it all really well here.
Wow, who would have thought that the best Speed Twin review would come from Fast Bikes. Lots of detail, lots of important questions answered, brill job, ta!
Great review from a non retro rider. I own a 2022 ST1200, not enough of an upgrade for me to buy a 2025 RS. The ST1200 base model has been dumbed down. Middle aged, non tipster, accountant. 😎
I would love either bike, but I would also love the Kwak Z900. Unfortunately I can only afford one bike so I have a KTM 1290 SDR. Good honest review though
Lost the retro vibe in my opinion, the first speed twins had cool paint jobs and twin clocks, effectively a Bonnie with more grunt and modern tubeless tyres. The paint jobs have gotten more garish and that horrible cheap single clock is just ugly as hell. Do yourself a favour and get a low mileage early one and spend some of the savings on suspension upgrades
These are overpriced for what is in reality a fairly basic parallel twin. 14.5k for a bike with no cruise control and heated grips is not good enough. The paint jobs look a bit tacky as well especially with that big 1200 sticker on the tank on the base model. The old model was better value in many ways. It was cheaper than the new base model but had the classic analogue twin dials, Brembo brakes, metal mudguards [not plastic as is on the new base model] and classier paint jobs. The stealth paint job on the '24' model looks particularly nice.Nope , a miss for me and many other people judging from what I have seen and read.
Looks great but.. My old Firestorm makes more power and it's lighter and with more upright bars has a similar riding position. Upgraded suspension on mine means it handles better. 14k for less than I've got... No thanks.
I got the Scrambler 1200 XC, and I love this motor. My previous bike was an Aprilia Tuono 1100RR, and this 1200cc twin has the same torque at 3,300 rpm as my Touno did at 7,500 rpm. (Rear wheel, on the same dyno) Considering on the street I almost never went above 7,500 rpm before shifting, that makes this Triumph a fun bike. Especially combined with this fantastic transmission. What people don't realize, is that it's not about peak horsepower numbers unless you're on the track on the straightaway. It's about power under the curve. There's a lot of power under the curve with the Triumph 1200cc motors. At the same time, they aren't so highly tuned that they drive angry around town. They'll be a docile as you want them to be, comfortably cruising along, until you want to unleash the torque. On the street, torque is a bigger benefit. This motor wants to lift the front wheel from 2,000 rpm, lol. It's great fun. I would have got a Speed twin but my back is shot and I wanted the adjustable shocks and extra travel to extend my riding years.
Like @Motografs said: by far, the best, most informative review I've seen of this bike. When I saw that it was 21 minutes long, I feared it would be just another video full of helmet cam footage, and a lot of useless, unedited jabbering. Instead, there's nothing here that's superfluous - just lot's of great information, answering just about any question I would have about whether this bike would be a good fit for me.
Glad you went a little bit out of your wheelhouse and reviewed this bike. I imagine there are a lot of people out there like myself - basically, those who come from a sport bike background, but who's bodies have aged out of dealing with clip-ons and bent knees on the street. Performance and handling (if not outright horsepower) are still near the top of my list of what matters in a motorcycle, and you've covered it all really well here.
I ordered the RS, should be here in a couple of months. :)
Wow, who would have thought that the best Speed Twin review would come from Fast Bikes. Lots of detail, lots of important questions answered, brill job, ta!
Great review from a non retro rider. I own a 2022 ST1200, not enough of an upgrade for me to buy a 2025 RS. The ST1200 base model has been dumbed down. Middle aged, non tipster, accountant. 😎
I would love either bike, but I would also love the Kwak Z900. Unfortunately I can only afford one bike so I have a KTM 1290 SDR. Good honest review though
i live in mexico and owned a speed twin 2020. they're right.... never felt like i needed heated grips nor cruise control
Nice review very detailed and the camera work on the two models in the harbour excellent.
I want to like this but it's tough not to look at an XSR700 instead.
Did you say 12 1/2 thousand pounds?
Love the 70s 1200 graphic on the standard version
Lost the retro vibe in my opinion, the first speed twins had cool paint jobs and twin clocks, effectively a Bonnie with more grunt and modern tubeless tyres. The paint jobs have gotten more garish and that horrible cheap single clock is just ugly as hell. Do yourself a favour and get a low mileage early one and spend some of the savings on suspension upgrades
These are overpriced for what is in reality a fairly basic parallel twin. 14.5k for a bike with no cruise control and heated grips is not good enough. The paint jobs look a bit tacky as well especially with that big 1200 sticker on the tank on the base model. The old model was better value in many ways. It was cheaper than the new base model but had the classic analogue twin dials, Brembo brakes, metal mudguards [not plastic as is on the new base model] and classier paint jobs. The stealth paint job on the '24' model looks particularly nice.Nope , a miss for me and many other people judging from what I have seen and read.
This is the result of everyone getting fat knees hurt wrist pain 😂
Non adjustable suspension for that price?, older models look way better, sorry Triumph too much cost cutting. Phhhh next
Looks great but.. My old Firestorm makes more power and it's lighter and with more upright bars has a similar riding position. Upgraded suspension on mine means it handles better. 14k for less than I've got... No thanks.
To expensive
Ye ridiculously expensive for what it is...