Reminder that this was streamed 2 years ago on 4th May 2020. It's 2022 now, what do you think of this chart? ※ Boke and Tsukkomi (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzai) Boke: The person who sets up the joke / makes funny comments Tsukkomi: The person who takes a jab at the boke's funny comments.
Astel in 2020: Introvert nice kusogaki Astel in 2022: Extrovert kusogaki that tease almost everyone Edit: Wow if holostars making these charts again, there's definitely lots of changes plus uproar and tempus
I like how Roberu said 'damn cute' as soon as he saw Kaoru, totally missed all the boys😌 Btw suprised that Astel looks introvert back then since many people like Miyabi and Ollie said he's an extrovert 🤣 Ty for the clip!
Recently Aransan has been feeding us so much of his silly boke that when I watch older videos like this I forget he can sound smart and dandy. Thanks for the clip!
It seems unbalance at first to only rely on Robesan for tsukkomi, even if Astel leaned more to extrovert atm, his tsukkomi only appear as emergency measure. And Izuru I say is pretty balanced between tsukkomi and boke. But since Uproar is here!!!!!! at least Fuma and Rio are average tsukkomi and Uyu is slightly better behind Shinove. But then again we should consider how Gamma outcharted both boke and extrovert, he is the far top right beyond the screen.
It really interesting how some things changes now vs then lol. - I think Rikka, Aruran, & Roberu placing are still very much the same now. If Anything Roberu extrovertness probably should be put off the chart with how much he's been becoming the vtuber boy-toy. - Same with Temma, that man is as enigmatic as he is in the past and present lol. - Current Shien & Oga probably should swap places ww. - Miyabi nowdays is Holostars prime king of boke and should be put most right, and Astel is definitely improved a lot and should be on extrovert territory probably somewhere on Rikka level even. - Izuru is unique, kinda, I feels like his irl backstory of doing busking/street performance is something of extrovert person and the way he interact with other Holostars member show his extrovertness, but at the same time, among Holostars Izuru is the one that do outside collabs the least (I think?) which does shows his introvert side. So I think his placement is correct, sort of.
It's interesting to see this clipped from 2 yrs ago... things have changed now and they got to know more of each other better, I wonder what would be this chart now with the addition of uproar and maybe even tempus. I feel like Temma will still be placed in the middle. 😆 Also recently they keep saying everyone in starsjp are actually inkya so it's a matter of who's more of a tsukkomi or boke? 🤔
It's true that JP folks are generally more introvert than most because of their culture. However we have quite a few of extroverts in Holostars. We have Roberu, Rikka, Aruran, Rio and Gamma as peak extrovertness. And the introvert talents don't have crippling social anxiety like some of their Hololive senpais. Most of Holostars members do collab with both within their branch and outside of their branch pretty often. I think all of Holostars have done at least one collab with people outside of Holopro too (except for Uyu but he's kinda busy taking care of his irl job rn)
If we were going to place the EN holostars on this chart, let's think about it. (Grid system: -10 to +10) - Axel is probably the easiest to place. His loud and aggressive energy places him firmly in extroverted territory. As for left/right, he really doesn't say a whole lot to be misinterpreted. There are dirty jokes here and there, yes, but for the most part, you know right away that there's no double meaning. I consider him quite a bit more tsukkomi than boke. Coordinates: (-7, 9). - Altare is the leader, which places a lot of tsukkomi and extrovert responsibility on his shoulders. But he doesn't play into it all that much. It's actually more of a gap characteristic, in my opinion, and it shows how much he surrenders the leadership role to others who are more qualified depending on the situation, such as with Axel in the Raft streams. For that reason, on top of his quiet nature, I consider him only slightly extroverted, and only slightly tsukkomi. Coordinates: (-2, 2) - Magni is a troublesome one. Voted "most likely to betray the guild" and having the most corrupt fanbase without exception, his boke level is strong. On the up/down, he prides himself in being a showman, as demonstrated in his announcer streams, but betrays that character from time to time with cowardice and behind-the-scenes friendliness toward his guildmates. It's neutral/right energy, in my book. Coordinates: (9, 3) - Vesper seems the most surprising to me, even more so than Altare, for having gap potential. While his introverted-ness is apparent, his scholarly character is constantly overshadowed by playing strongly into his old-man jokes and saying lines that could be easily taken completely out of context. He recently attempted a gaslighting manzai with Kronii, and got completely steamrolled by her boke act. He has literally been seen yelling at clouds and power-washing an entire backyard while taking a prone stance. All in all, I don't think there's an ounce of tsukkomi in his entire body. Coordinates: (10, -6) Give me your opinions, and I'll update where I agree
3:28 I didn't know that Miyabi was Holostars JP's Mumei lol. Although, I guess technically it's the other way around then? Mumei is Hololive EN's Miyabi? XD
And turned out that is at the peak of extrovert It's even out of chart probably just like miyabi said in his stream about their first meeting to holostars and when he met astel for the first time ruclips.net/video/EFDfWSPbUu8/видео.html I hope for them to redo this again along with uproar and tempus xD
A bit confused bcoz from the end of 2020-til now I watch stars actively, I always though Astel is an extrovert (?) Idk in their early days, but I will put Astel, Ricchan and Son in the same level of extrovert, lol. I hope Robe-Son will update this chart including Uproar boys!
Welp there was a time Astel couldn't even talk to girl so.... You can check this vid about Astel and Matsuri awkward ( but cute ) convo lolol. In the stream he even asked chat for advices ruclips.net/video/cOPUHR22y-U/видео.html
@@congeepongee welp, nice info! Never imagined that guy Astel on the awkward phase, lol. I'm glad he gradually better with people even mostly become the pioneer for new mem collab nowadays
Astel has low self-confidence (or self-esteem?) because how tough Holostars situation in beginning. Astel himself admitted he used have mindset "someone like me don't deserve to collab with someone outside of group". Even when fans asked why not do collabs and he answered "there are more interesting people than me".
Interesting that this was in 2020, and they already had gen 3, and haven't gotten any new members for the JP side. Hopefully Holostars interests will increase now that Tempus are very well into making an impact.
@@thieftheodore Oh, yeah. I guess my mind skipped them because Miyabi once said that they’re in holopro, but not holostars, or something among those lines.
Reminder that this was streamed 2 years ago on 4th May 2020.
It's 2022 now, what do you think of this chart?
※ Boke and Tsukkomi (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzai)
Boke: The person who sets up the joke / makes funny comments
Tsukkomi: The person who takes a jab at the boke's funny comments.
Time to ask Roberu to update!
Thanks for the clip, holostars clippers are quite rare,most of them clip holostars en but not much jp
@@watataenjoyer reigen deserves more views!!! They've been clipping holostars jp for so long!
No wonder, i was shocked when kira came into it.
LMFAO so temma was just as unpredictable back then as he is now… some things never change
"In conclusion, Roberu is a mom"
even back then they already knew.
Astel in 2020: Introvert nice kusogaki
Astel in 2022: Extrovert kusogaki that tease almost everyone
Edit: Wow if holostars making these charts again, there's definitely lots of changes plus uproar and tempus
lol the fact that temma confused them back then and still confuses everyone now, sasuga mystery kishi
I like how Roberu said 'damn cute' as soon as he saw Kaoru, totally missed all the boys😌
Btw suprised that Astel looks introvert back then since many people like Miyabi and Ollie said he's an extrovert 🤣
Ty for the clip!
lmao Oga seems to be complete introvert now
Recently Aransan has been feeding us so much of his silly boke that when I watch older videos like this I forget he can sound smart and dandy.
Thanks for the clip!
I keep forgetting that shinove can talk IRL
It seems unbalance at first to only rely on Robesan for tsukkomi, even if Astel leaned more to extrovert atm, his tsukkomi only appear as emergency measure. And Izuru I say is pretty balanced between tsukkomi and boke.
But since Uproar is here!!!!!! at least Fuma and Rio are average tsukkomi and Uyu is slightly better behind Shinove. But then again we should consider how Gamma outcharted both boke and extrovert, he is the far top right beyond the screen.
It really interesting how some things changes now vs then lol.
- I think Rikka, Aruran, & Roberu placing are still very much the same now. If Anything Roberu extrovertness probably should be put off the chart with how much he's been becoming the vtuber boy-toy.
- Same with Temma, that man is as enigmatic as he is in the past and present lol.
- Current Shien & Oga probably should swap places ww.
- Miyabi nowdays is Holostars prime king of boke and should be put most right, and Astel is definitely improved a lot and should be on extrovert territory probably somewhere on Rikka level even.
- Izuru is unique, kinda, I feels like his irl backstory of doing busking/street performance is something of extrovert person and the way he interact with other Holostars member show his extrovertness, but at the same time, among Holostars Izuru is the one that do outside collabs the least (I think?) which does shows his introvert side. So I think his placement is correct, sort of.
>Everyone sees Oga as an extrovert
He literally owns Zoids.
This is so much fun btw!
Congratulations on 100th clip, Reigan!🥳
Even after 2 years, Robechan is still the undefeated tsukkomi imo ✨
最近沼った勢だから、こんな企画やってたの知らなかった…!含め今の印象も変わってないんだろうか🤔アプロちゃん含めのやつを改めてやってみてほしさある
it would be very interesting to see how these three would fill this chart now after been together for over 2 years 👀
Thank you for the clip!! 💚
It's interesting to see this clipped from 2 yrs ago... things have changed now and they got to know more of each other better, I wonder what would be this chart now with the addition of uproar and maybe even tempus. I feel like Temma will still be placed in the middle. 😆
Also recently they keep saying everyone in starsjp are actually inkya so it's a matter of who's more of a tsukkomi or boke? 🤔
It's true that JP folks are generally more introvert than most because of their culture. However we have quite a few of extroverts in Holostars. We have Roberu, Rikka, Aruran, Rio and Gamma as peak extrovertness. And the introvert talents don't have crippling social anxiety like some of their Hololive senpais. Most of Holostars members do collab with both within their branch and outside of their branch pretty often. I think all of Holostars have done at least one collab with people outside of Holopro too (except for Uyu but he's kinda busy taking care of his irl job rn)
If we were going to place the EN holostars on this chart, let's think about it. (Grid system: -10 to +10)
- Axel is probably the easiest to place. His loud and aggressive energy places him firmly in extroverted territory. As for left/right, he really doesn't say a whole lot to be misinterpreted. There are dirty jokes here and there, yes, but for the most part, you know right away that there's no double meaning. I consider him quite a bit more tsukkomi than boke. Coordinates: (-7, 9).
- Altare is the leader, which places a lot of tsukkomi and extrovert responsibility on his shoulders. But he doesn't play into it all that much. It's actually more of a gap characteristic, in my opinion, and it shows how much he surrenders the leadership role to others who are more qualified depending on the situation, such as with Axel in the Raft streams. For that reason, on top of his quiet nature, I consider him only slightly extroverted, and only slightly tsukkomi. Coordinates: (-2, 2)
- Magni is a troublesome one. Voted "most likely to betray the guild" and having the most corrupt fanbase without exception, his boke level is strong. On the up/down, he prides himself in being a showman, as demonstrated in his announcer streams, but betrays that character from time to time with cowardice and behind-the-scenes friendliness toward his guildmates. It's neutral/right energy, in my book. Coordinates: (9, 3)
- Vesper seems the most surprising to me, even more so than Altare, for having gap potential. While his introverted-ness is apparent, his scholarly character is constantly overshadowed by playing strongly into his old-man jokes and saying lines that could be easily taken completely out of context. He recently attempted a gaslighting manzai with Kronii, and got completely steamrolled by her boke act. He has literally been seen yelling at clouds and power-washing an entire backyard while taking a prone stance. All in all, I don't think there's an ounce of tsukkomi in his entire body. Coordinates: (10, -6)
Give me your opinions, and I'll update where I agree
I think Altare is more of an introvert person and he has slight boke tendency (only in his solo stream) so I would put him around (-2, 0)
I always love it when the boys include their managers in the streams. Get to know them on a slightly personal level since we get to hear them talk.
I really miss Kira and Kaoru
3:28 I didn't know that Miyabi was Holostars JP's Mumei lol. Although, I guess technically it's the other way around then? Mumei is Hololive EN's Miyabi? XD
wow what a throwback, thanks for bringing this moment back
And turned out that is at the peak of extrovert
It's even out of chart probably just like miyabi said in his stream about their first meeting to holostars and when he met astel for the first time
ruclips.net/video/EFDfWSPbUu8/видео.html
I hope for them to redo this again along with uproar and tempus xD
I miss them....
Cool
A bit confused bcoz from the end of 2020-til now I watch stars actively, I always though Astel is an extrovert (?) Idk in their early days, but I will put Astel, Ricchan and Son in the same level of extrovert, lol. I hope Robe-Son will update this chart including Uproar boys!
Welp there was a time Astel couldn't even talk to girl so....
You can check this vid about Astel and Matsuri awkward ( but cute ) convo lolol. In the stream he even asked chat for advices
ruclips.net/video/cOPUHR22y-U/видео.html
Astel was really shy and awkward back then, he even pulled the weather card when he first met matsuri
@@congeepongee welp, nice info! Never imagined that guy Astel on the awkward phase, lol. I'm glad he gradually better with people even mostly become the pioneer for new mem collab nowadays
Astel has low self-confidence (or self-esteem?) because how tough Holostars situation in beginning. Astel himself admitted he used have mindset "someone like me don't deserve to collab with someone outside of group". Even when fans asked why not do collabs and he answered "there are more interesting people than me".
What do tsukkomi and boke mean?😅
Think of a comedy duo; the boke is the one who will make the dumb joke and the tsukkomi will be the one who makes a reaction to it.
@@Jellomancy Thank u for the explanation! Totally understand now🙌💗
Interesting that this was in 2020, and they already had gen 3, and haven't gotten any new members for the JP side.
Hopefully Holostars interests will increase now that Tempus are very well into making an impact.
Did you forget Uproar?
@@thieftheodore
Oh, yeah. I guess my mind skipped them because Miyabi once said that they’re in holopro, but not holostars, or something among those lines.