Linguist here. In terms of the Indus Valley symbols shown at 11:07, I would (in case anyone is interested) say that it's highly likely that the symbols all represent a single object or phonetic sound but they might be slightly altered to indicate gender, plurality, ownership or other indications related to the context of the connotation (think: Polish noun forms and determiners). I.E. the symbols could convey 'my butterfly','her butterfly', 'two butterflies', 'the dead butterflies from the past', etc. It is unlikely, in my opinion, that each symbol connotes a distinct and separate meaning/sound since ancient communication always favored function over form. What this means is that due to limited materials, the imperative of being clearly understood, and the relative time and effort necessary to compose the written language would negate stylistic/artistic choices and lead us to believe that there was a definite intention to convey meaning rather than aesthetics. That's just my two cents. I could be dead wrong.
appreciate you adding your knowledge on the subject without asserting this is definitely the case but it definitely seems like a very probable explanation based on my limited knowledge. thanks for sharing your opinion as a professional in the field without assuming that it is correct. I personally agree with your take it seems more likely and practical but again we could both be dead wrong still you made some great points thanks for sharing! in fact there are still languages and dialects today that favour sort of easy contextual communication over specific communication. A good modern example i can think of would be the hadza hunter gatherer tribe of africa who still uses a very phonetic and contextual language for example many of the words for a certain animal arent a word for that animal but simply an imitation of the sounds the animal makes. so to reference a baboon in a sentence you make the sound a baboon makes this assists especially in a hunt because the other hunters know what type of animal they are tracking and adjust accordingly.
ASPIRING Linguist here - I haven't taken any classes yet (not counting RUclips University) but am going to college in August to do so Isn't it likely that early developed writing systems would be more similar to Mandarin than English? In the sense of conjugation and idk if there's a word for conjugation but for nouns It just seems to me that, typing this on my computer, it's really easy for me to make the change from "be" to "is" or "am", whereas someone having to carve this into ... whatever they used for writing would try to keep symbols drastically different to avoid confusion in case of inscription error? I seriously have no reason for thinking this aside from that it would be easier and that if I were the one designing this language, I would do it that way, leading me to think that these are just handwriting idiosyncrasies
@@samstromberg5593 well i think that is sort of the point this person is trying to make for all the reasons you just stated. if you think about it the character system used here isnt all that different than chinese characters. Its what i personally refer to as a contextual language where symbols can mean multiple things depending on what other symbols they are placed with. A very simple version of this that most people in the west would know is how aloha can mean both hello or goodbye but contextually you always know what it means because are you leaving or did you just arrive? I did some side anthropology classes and stuff in college and these are some of the subjects we discussed i am by no means an expert this is just my two cents... anybody more knowledgable feel free to correct me but this is how it appears to me. or also a single symbol can be representative of a verb so something like the image of cheetah (this isnt based on anything just making up an example) might not mean cheetah it may just means fast or quick...
It's kind of beautiful (and tragic), that a woman who died from drowning, becomes the face of teaching people CPR. Which can, in turn, save people from drowning
I would love more of all of these subjects. Indus valley, Pythagoreans, greek cults and/or Mediterranean cultures, eastern European history, all of it.
If you enjoy stuff like that Graham Hancock might be right up your alley! Take it with a grain of salt as his theories are often disproven or disputed, but his documentary is well produced and still fun to think about!
Yes Simon, I would like to see a video (or a part of a video) on the Pythagoreans. I really appreciate you covering the Indus Valley civilization as it gets too little attention. I visited the Punjab when traveling in Pakistan in the early 1980s, so I am interested in topics from this area. As for decoding the writing of the Indus Civilization, it reminds me of the Mayan system of writing. If I remember correctly archaeologists pecked away at the problem for decades until one very young man cracked the code. Genius is where you find it, and no one can predict when it will occur. Let's keep our fingers crossed...
Yeah, the person in question is still the foremost expert on Mesoamerican script. But if there is common thread in writing systems it seems to be their use in government declarations, like the naming of kings, property rights and legal contracts. Odds are the tablets are shipping contracts and ownership documents.
Thanks for doing The Lady of the Seinne, one I (and others I'm sure) suggested a while ago. The Laerdall CPR dolls have helped countless people and will continue to for generations!
This was a top tier video. As for the teaser, I had heard of the unknown girl's death mask and how it was used for CPR Annie before, and I obviously knew "Annie, are you okay" but I NEVER knew they were connected before! That's particularly crazy since I know back before google, yahoo, or even Ask Jeeves, I wondered what that song was really about but never found out.
I know this is a joke, but the answer is; work-ethic, and the love of money(also, he should have been a teacher 30 years ago, bc he just wants us all to learn things, and make sure we value fact more then legend)
Leveraging the work of others. Pitch meetings, script writers, videographers, editors/error proofreaders , social media account managers, so rather then him doing the 100’s of hours of work to run them all he pays others so he can be the ‘face’ just filming 75 percent pf his worth time hours. He’s smart and dedicated and you don’t get to a value of (per internet google) 30-40 million net worth without figuring out how typically to build a team. I just hope he is paying it forward to them!
Great episode! It was fantastically written. I'd absolutely love a full video on the Indus Valley civilization and what all we do and don't know about them, as well as a deep dive on the Eleusinian Mysteries and Pythagorean cult. Please!
I can't let this opportunity for a movie quote to pass by, "I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for now, rest well and dream of large women."
Maybe it's just cause I have been rereading the Dune series (all of them) over the Summer. But I can't help hear the description of the Temple in Malta and not think the lowermost floor is probably just cistern for freshwater during the summer months which is why the stairs don't go all the way to the lower level's floor; you probably didn't need to go any lower to collect water and they used this as an early warning that water supply was getting too low to last much longer. Likely the temple was more of a Town Center in a Religious State hence having an upper floor that is more general, an inner set of temples on the second floor, and a massive vault of a room with no obvious purpose and a strange almost hidden stairwell. It likely served as a temple and collection/distribution center run by the Clerics that doubled as government.
A cistern is a fascinating idea to solve the riddle, but would there not be some evidence of stored water? Long-term water lines, dried bacteria or mineral build-up related to water being found in the rock, etc.? Of course, this assumes that they'd even test for that, but the microscopic work of archaeology has become pretty remarkable of late.
when he said the steps ended before the floor, the first thing I thought of was that it was full of water. My brain went to a bathing pool or just controlling rain/groundwater, but a cistern for drinking water is a cool thought!
@@donaldwatson7698 Totally there would be. This is why I don't assume I solved it, I am sure this idea has been proposed by the professionals and either finding it was not used for water storage or inconclusive. This was just my brain woolgathering.
I think your description of what the building's purposes were is pretty much correct. The culture was most likely Matriarchal and fertility based. There is quite a bit of archaeological evidence to back that up.
My uni class travelled to Eleysis for a project of which I was head of, focusing around the cult, the arcitecture of the various structures that evolved from 700BCE to the late Roman times when the place was shut down as a "paganistic" site and a small church was built nearby. It's still one of the loveliest memories I have as an undergrad. If you're ever in Athens, do take the few mile trip to visit Eleysis, it's a really weird place, with the ancient ruins among a heavily industrial town. When we visited, we found flowers, candles and sweets left in a nook near the supposed entry to the Underworld, suggesting there's a handful of modern times worshipers there! A few of my friends and I were planning on investigating, maybe making a short documentary on this, but then the pandemic struck. Perhaps it's worth a trip back.
Indus Valley deep dive is a must please. I've watched you from the very start, then when you made that video , where you were contemplating in stopping altogether , I'm so glad you just kept making videos
I would love to see you cover the Harrapan civilisation and the Pythagoean cult would be a good one too. It is said that Helen of Troy was the face that launched a thousand ships, but that pales into insignificance alongside the lives saved by Annie who is probably also the most kissed woman in history.
The reason all of the "mystery" (ancient or modern) videos are so popular is because they make GREAT writing prompts, even for non-writers who will never and never intend to actually write; they're the stuff that connect and make "possible" all kinds of fanciful dreams and notions.
Amazingly good content and production! I could watch a hundred of these ancient mysteries episodes and especially the creepy, scary, or corrupt stories of legend. Fascinating! ❤
Let's see a Deep Dive about each topic you touched on. You know we'll watch them all. 😁 But Yes definitely an episode or two about Pythagoras and crew.
Read the book, “The Immortality Key.” They go into some evidence tied to Eleusinian Mystery. They basically theorize that they were drinking beer or wine type drinks laced with ergot to help them hallucinate and have transcendent experiences. Putting the body through fasting and exhaustion probably enhanced those effects even more.
Yea but that doesn't explain the secrecy behind them and only is a small part of the festivities that lasted for days. Besides the use of ergot was something very common in ancient Greece it's not like they'd go through all this trouble to hide something everyone knew was happening. Also we know these rituals had something to do with the myth of demeter and Persephone but we don't know exactly how this all was tied together.
I'd love to see you cover the Chinampas or architectural achievements of the Aztecs. They always get overlooked because of the sacrifice stuff. But their agriculture and architecture are insanely cool.
Would love to see more on the Indus Valley. Especially their Bronze Age/Pre-Bronze Age ties (if they exist) to Sumaria, Acadia, and the other ancient Med cultures.
Ok I have to applaud that conclusion, I had forgotten about our young woman of the seine. But that was a journey she undertook and you presented it with such gusto it made my night
I've always wondered if books like the 'Voynich Manuscript' or the 'Rohonc Codex' might be companions to epic Tolkienesque tales, where the languages are those of a species or race in the story, and the codex describes their world.
That's an interesting theory. Just imagine how mystifying it would be if a replica of an in-universe book (written in Elvish, with no translation guide) was the only surviving evidence of Tolkien's works.
imo i suspect these books maybe written phoneticaly by someone using a version of the alphabet they grew up with and are just attempting to apply it to a different language and like in past centuries when there was no fixed spelling etc... they had to just get a bit creative lol
So I'm Hmong. And the language never had a real written script. Most of it is romanised and is spelt how the words sound in "English." But just recently (possibly in the last 30 years) someone developed the actual script for the language. Most Hmong can't even read this "new script" tho but can read more of the English script, even if those Hmong can't even read English. I always found that pretty interesting.
This is fascinating to learn and I’m curious to know more about who, how and why they came up with the script. Is it based on scripts of the local area? . It ties into how this episode highlights that much of the history we know of well has been reliant on it being recorded somehow which means there could easily be an amazing amount that has disappeared without leaving a trace of its existence. I truly admire the efforts of archeologists and scientists to discover and piece together our pre-history
FYI, the Indus Valley Script has had some breakthroughs, not the least of which is that most of the characters are probably names, the direction it was written, and more. There's a great TED Talk about it.
The mystery of the Rohonc Codex makes me want to play the long game and fake some "important literature from an unknown language", writing some lengthy text in a fictional language with few, if any, hints to how to translate it, then either bury it in a time capsule that says not to open it until 2400 or something, or pass it down to my future kids and have them pass it down to theirs, so on and so forth, all so that in some distant era, when people find it, they spend ages trying to decode and translate the "lamguage", thrown off by a lot of random gibberish and such to complicate it, only for the it to somewhere say something like "Dear historians and archeologists of the future. I just wasted your time."
Hi Kahadi. Have you heard the saying, "As you sow, so shall you reap"? It says in effect that in the end we all get exactly what we deserve, no more and no less. So your dreams might come true. If I was King of Karma, I'd make sure that YOU were reborn to become the scientist of 2400 who frustrates his life away trying to decipher the nonsense he'd created 400 years previously when he was you. And part of your experience as that scientist would be to receive yourself the public humiliation and scorn that you're planning for others. As King of Karma I'd laugh at you just as you're gleefully laughing at making yourself a "force for ignorance" in the future. Can you see any moral fault in my plan? Take an honest look at yourself too. Cheers, P.R.
As a military history enthousiast, when you mentioned Malta’s claim to fame, I half-expected you to say it was the allies’ unsinkable aircraft carrier in WWII Lol
Malta - been there, lived there, done that. Wish I'd been old enough to appreciate the Hypogeum properly. Seriously, it is the most fascinating and beautiful places, if you have the chance, go there.
I was thinking the song you were going to refer to was "Stayin Alive" by the Bee Gees. The beat of this song is the beat you are recommended to follow when you give CPR.
Simon, you could start a do a history series covering every society beginning with the Mesopotamians, in this valley, early China, and just keep going from there. 😀
"What reason would a culture with limited resources, have to put such time and effort into building these intricate megaliths?" It's like you've never heard of the Easter Islands lol, upgrade the limited resources by a giant factor, and the effort into building intricate megaliths by an even larger factor...
I love these sort of mysteries, I could just listen or read about ancient civilizations forever, its so fascinating. Its even more interesting when we just don't know and you can let your own brain go wild but, I don't think anyone would get it, if you weren't alive then, you honestly have no exact idea how everyone acted and everything worked so essentially its all a mystery. Also history is always changing with new discoveries. We're using our 20th century brains to try and imagine something so old, we just couldn't conceive of exactly what the people thought like if you never lived it. Thats what I like about history in general.❤
Wow, I knew that the Annie rescue doll was made from that girls death mask, I never knew that it inspired Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal song, lol! Also when I was younger I spent many years collect all kinds of books on any ancient civilizations from the area called Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley people were one of my favorites, but since this was also around the late 1980s and early 1990s, the books I found had very little information on any of them, but that's also why I bought a lot of books about the whole area. I learned about the Sumerians, the Indus people, along with the Egyptians, Greeks and the Romans, and many others that existed back then, by reading all these different books. But now with the internet I have gotten to learn a whole lot more, thanks to channels like this one, well a lot of the ones Simon narrates of course. And so what I'm saying is I would welcome a whole video about the Indus Valley, as well as other Mesopotamian civilizations that aren't as well talked about as say Egypt of course!
Please tell me I'm not the only one who, during first aid training while demonstrating "rousing the patient", shook the dummy and said "Annie, Annie - are you okay Annie?" 🙃
"L'Incconu de la Seine" is also better known to us today as "Resussa Annie". This lovely girl's face was used to make the resuscitation training dummy for First Aid lessons.
Very happy to see you still making videos, your replacement on the other channels is terrible. You are great as a host, love your presentation style.❤❤
I can't stand loose ends, but sometimes they're inevitable. Simon's videos on these mysteries make me a little more comfortable, especially knowing that we don't know many things from centuries or millennia ago.
Hi Simon, I think you need to take another round on the backstory of the save Annie doll. The face used is indeed from a real person, but from one that washed up in London.
The Rohonc Codex mystery sounds quite similar to that of the Voynich Manuscript. Both have been puzzling experts for centuries. Would be funny if the same person made them both up. Lol
Linguist here.
In terms of the Indus Valley symbols shown at 11:07, I would (in case anyone is interested) say that it's highly likely that the symbols all represent a single object or phonetic sound but they might be slightly altered to indicate gender, plurality, ownership or other indications related to the context of the connotation (think: Polish noun forms and determiners).
I.E. the symbols could convey 'my butterfly','her butterfly', 'two butterflies', 'the dead butterflies from the past', etc.
It is unlikely, in my opinion, that each symbol connotes a distinct and separate meaning/sound since ancient communication always favored function over form.
What this means is that due to limited materials, the imperative of being clearly understood, and the relative time and effort necessary to compose the written language would negate stylistic/artistic choices and lead us to believe that there was a definite intention to convey meaning rather than aesthetics.
That's just my two cents. I could be dead wrong.
appreciate you adding your knowledge on the subject without asserting this is definitely the case but it definitely seems like a very probable explanation based on my limited knowledge. thanks for sharing your opinion as a professional in the field without assuming that it is correct. I personally agree with your take it seems more likely and practical but again we could both be dead wrong still you made some great points thanks for sharing! in fact there are still languages and dialects today that favour sort of easy contextual communication over specific communication. A good modern example i can think of would be the hadza hunter gatherer tribe of africa who still uses a very phonetic and contextual language for example many of the words for a certain animal arent a word for that animal but simply an imitation of the sounds the animal makes. so to reference a baboon in a sentence you make the sound a baboon makes this assists especially in a hunt because the other hunters know what type of animal they are tracking and adjust accordingly.
ASPIRING Linguist here - I haven't taken any classes yet (not counting RUclips University) but am going to college in August to do so
Isn't it likely that early developed writing systems would be more similar to Mandarin than English? In the sense of conjugation and idk if there's a word for conjugation but for nouns
It just seems to me that, typing this on my computer, it's really easy for me to make the change from "be" to "is" or "am", whereas someone having to carve this into ... whatever they used for writing would try to keep symbols drastically different to avoid confusion in case of inscription error?
I seriously have no reason for thinking this aside from that it would be easier and that if I were the one designing this language, I would do it that way, leading me to think that these are just handwriting idiosyncrasies
@@samstromberg5593 well i think that is sort of the point this person is trying to make for all the reasons you just stated. if you think about it the character system used here isnt all that different than chinese characters. Its what i personally refer to as a contextual language where symbols can mean multiple things depending on what other symbols they are placed with. A very simple version of this that most people in the west would know is how aloha can mean both hello or goodbye but contextually you always know what it means because are you leaving or did you just arrive? I did some side anthropology classes and stuff in college and these are some of the subjects we discussed i am by no means an expert this is just my two cents... anybody more knowledgable feel free to correct me but this is how it appears to me. or also a single symbol can be representative of a verb so something like the image of cheetah (this isnt based on anything just making up an example) might not mean cheetah it may just means fast or quick...
It's kind of beautiful (and tragic), that a woman who died from drowning, becomes the face of teaching people CPR. Which can, in turn, save people from drowning
The irony hits hard. But at least she's helpfull
I would love more of all of these subjects. Indus valley, Pythagoreans, greek cults and/or Mediterranean cultures, eastern European history, all of it.
I agree. I want a deep dive on all of it, too, especially the Story behind Pythagoreanism cult.
Q/"How did the ancients make a Maltese Cross ?" A/ - Tweak his nose "
If you enjoy stuff like that Graham Hancock might be right up your alley! Take it with a grain of salt as his theories are often disproven or disputed, but his documentary is well produced and still fun to think about!
I agree with Simon, honestly, our ancestors were probably painting boobs on cave walls 30,000 years ago.
Wonder when the drawing penis' fab started.....never understood that....just why?
In Ancient Rome people were drawing graffiti penises, too. National geographic channel
I would love an Indus Valley civilization deep dive. My best friend is a pre-vedic Hindu by way of Guyana so now really enjoy any pre-vedic history.
You mean he's a Jain?
By the way of Guyana? U mean Guyanese?
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We don't actually know what genetic connection present-day Indians have to the people of the Indus Valley civilization.
@@anthonysaunders345yes we're the oldest culture and civilization still alive and still being continuing
Yes Simon, I would like to see a video (or a part of a video) on the Pythagoreans.
I really appreciate you covering the Indus Valley civilization as it gets too little attention. I visited the Punjab when traveling in Pakistan in the early 1980s, so I am interested in topics from this area.
As for decoding the writing of the Indus Civilization, it reminds me of the Mayan system of writing. If I remember correctly archaeologists pecked away at the problem for decades until one very young man cracked the code. Genius is where you find it, and no one can predict when it will occur. Let's keep our fingers crossed...
I'd also would like the pathagorian video
Yeah, the person in question is still the foremost expert on Mesoamerican script. But if there is common thread in writing systems it seems to be their use in government declarations, like the naming of kings, property rights and legal contracts. Odds are the tablets are shipping contracts and ownership documents.
@@TK199999yes, I would say they are auditing/accounting records, which is why the Sumerian language and the Phoenician language was created.
Best episode in ages Simon, thoroughly entertaining and makes me want to research the separate topics more, 10/10.
Such a lovely comment thank you, makes it all worth it :)
@@anguskeenan4932for whom do you speak?
@@tommydaniels1805apparently that’s Simons 7045th account
@@tommydaniels1805 for the institution of Simon Whistler
Thanks for doing The Lady of the Seinne, one I (and others I'm sure) suggested a while ago. The Laerdall CPR dolls have helped countless people and will continue to for generations!
the beutiful thing about this, is that a young woman who drowned and was lost to time, will go on to save countless lives from drowning accidents.
This was a top tier video. As for the teaser, I had heard of the unknown girl's death mask and how it was used for CPR Annie before, and I obviously knew "Annie, are you okay" but I NEVER knew they were connected before! That's particularly crazy since I know back before google, yahoo, or even Ask Jeeves, I wondered what that song was really about but never found out.
How about videos on modern mysteries? Such as how does Simon make so many videos across so many channels?
Unsolveable!
I know this is a joke, but the answer is; work-ethic, and the love of money(also, he should have been a teacher 30 years ago, bc he just wants us all to learn things, and make sure we value fact more then legend)
Leveraging the work of others. Pitch meetings, script writers, videographers, editors/error proofreaders , social media account managers, so rather then him doing the 100’s of hours of work to run them all he pays others so he can be the ‘face’ just filming 75 percent pf his worth time hours. He’s smart and dedicated and you don’t get to a value of (per internet google) 30-40 million net worth without figuring out how typically to build a team. I just hope he is paying it forward to them!
He has two identical twins.
@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets Wouldn't that make them triplets?
The "rotundity" of the statues...that's a very gentlemanly way of putting it.
Great episode! It was fantastically written. I'd absolutely love a full video on the Indus Valley civilization and what all we do and don't know about them, as well as a deep dive on the Eleusinian Mysteries and Pythagorean cult. Please!
I can't let this opportunity for a movie quote to pass by, "I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for now, rest well and dream of large women."
After that fight, Fezzik deserved all the booba dreams
My favorite movie! ❤
I am the dwead piwate woberts
Inconceivable!
hahahahahaha love you
Maybe it's just cause I have been rereading the Dune series (all of them) over the Summer. But I can't help hear the description of the Temple in Malta and not think the lowermost floor is probably just cistern for freshwater during the summer months which is why the stairs don't go all the way to the lower level's floor; you probably didn't need to go any lower to collect water and they used this as an early warning that water supply was getting too low to last much longer. Likely the temple was more of a Town Center in a Religious State hence having an upper floor that is more general, an inner set of temples on the second floor, and a massive vault of a room with no obvious purpose and a strange almost hidden stairwell. It likely served as a temple and collection/distribution center run by the Clerics that doubled as government.
A cistern is a fascinating idea to solve the riddle, but would there not be some evidence of stored water? Long-term water lines, dried bacteria or mineral build-up related to water being found in the rock, etc.? Of course, this assumes that they'd even test for that, but the microscopic work of archaeology has become pretty remarkable of late.
Sietch Malta
when he said the steps ended before the floor, the first thing I thought of was that it was full of water. My brain went to a bathing pool or just controlling rain/groundwater, but a cistern for drinking water is a cool thought!
@@donaldwatson7698 Totally there would be. This is why I don't assume I solved it, I am sure this idea has been proposed by the professionals and either finding it was not used for water storage or inconclusive. This was just my brain woolgathering.
I think your description of what the building's purposes were is pretty much correct. The culture was most likely Matriarchal and fertility based. There is quite a bit of archaeological evidence to back that up.
As a teacher, I would love to see more on Pythagoras, especially if the Cult of Zero could be covered as well!
I absolutely love any deep dives into ancient civilizations/archaeological and also space theories/discoveries.❤
Can't believe they documented the structures on Malta 7000 years ago! Now that's dedication
My uni class travelled to Eleysis for a project of which I was head of, focusing around the cult, the arcitecture of the various structures that evolved from 700BCE to the late Roman times when the place was shut down as a "paganistic" site and a small church was built nearby. It's still one of the loveliest memories I have as an undergrad. If you're ever in Athens, do take the few mile trip to visit Eleysis, it's a really weird place, with the ancient ruins among a heavily industrial town. When we visited, we found flowers, candles and sweets left in a nook near the supposed entry to the Underworld, suggesting there's a handful of modern times worshipers there! A few of my friends and I were planning on investigating, maybe making a short documentary on this, but then the pandemic struck. Perhaps it's worth a trip back.
Indus Valley deep dive is a must please. I've watched you from the very start, then when you made that video , where you were contemplating in stopping altogether , I'm so glad you just kept making videos
I would love to see you cover the Harrapan civilisation and the Pythagoean cult would be a good one too. It is said that Helen of Troy was the face that launched a thousand ships, but that pales into insignificance alongside the lives saved by Annie who is probably also the most kissed woman in history.
The first step of CPR training: "Annie, Annie, are you ok?"
2:05 - Chapter 1 - The megaliths of malta
7:40 - Chapter 2 - The indus valley script
12:35 - Chapter 3 - The rohonc codex
16:30 - Chapter 4 - The elusinian cult
20:00 - Conclusion
Thank you.
21:40 Mike drop😀
Thank you. I never understand why creators don't leave these themselves.
There are so many weird codex's in the world
The reason all of the "mystery" (ancient or modern) videos are so popular is because they make GREAT writing prompts, even for non-writers who will never and never intend to actually write; they're the stuff that connect and make "possible" all kinds of fanciful dreams and notions.
Sir, this is a McDonalds
Also vaguely related is Stayin’ Alive cause that song has a very good rhythm for CPR chest compressions
I gave my 2½yr old nephew a piece of chalk and the first thing he drew was the ol "twig and berries ". (Pretty good depiction too) Humans gonna human.
Literally all those deep dives you hinted at sound interesting and I'd love to see the episodes.
Amazingly good content and production! I could watch a hundred of these ancient mysteries episodes and especially the creepy, scary, or corrupt stories of legend. Fascinating! ❤
Let's see a Deep Dive about each topic you touched on. You know we'll watch them all. 😁
But Yes definitely an episode or two about Pythagoras and crew.
Read the book, “The Immortality Key.” They go into some evidence tied to Eleusinian Mystery. They basically theorize that they were drinking beer or wine type drinks laced with ergot to help them hallucinate and have transcendent experiences. Putting the body through fasting and exhaustion probably enhanced those effects even more.
Yea but that doesn't explain the secrecy behind them and only is a small part of the festivities that lasted for days. Besides the use of ergot was something very common in ancient Greece it's not like they'd go through all this trouble to hide something everyone knew was happening.
Also we know these rituals had something to do with the myth of demeter and Persephone but we don't know exactly how this all was tied together.
I'd love to see you cover the Chinampas or architectural achievements of the Aztecs. They always get overlooked because of the sacrifice stuff. But their agriculture and architecture are insanely cool.
Would love to see more on the Indus Valley. Especially their Bronze Age/Pre-Bronze Age ties (if they exist) to Sumaria, Acadia, and the other ancient Med cultures.
Love it! So smooth, it was criminal?
And... yes a vid on the Pythagoras cult.
Am I the only one with that song stuck in my head?
"Annie are ok? You're a dead corpse, but you're ok?"
This feels like it should be on Decoding the Unknown.
Ok I have to applaud that conclusion, I had forgotten about our young woman of the seine. But that was a journey she undertook and you presented it with such gusto it made my night
A video on Pythagorus would be fascinating!
"Ancient Tech of Ancient Civilizations" yes, I would like to see more about that... perhaps a mini-series?
Simon out here solving all the world's mysteries one upload at the time!
A vid on the Pythagorean cult would be rad, my dude.
They liked big butts, and they could not lie, in fact they carved rocks to prove their point.
You know we are all dying for videos on your alluring mentions! Also, your micro-mystery connection. Sensational!
A Hungarian here - kudos for pronouncing the name of Rohonc and the people you are naming in that piece, very well.
I would love to know about the Indus and the Pythagoreans. That mini mystery was AMAZING
I'd love a deep dive on the Pythagorean cult.
I've always wondered if books like the 'Voynich Manuscript' or the 'Rohonc Codex' might be companions to epic Tolkienesque tales, where the languages are those of a species or race in the story, and the codex describes their world.
That's an interesting theory. Just imagine how mystifying it would be if a replica of an in-universe book (written in Elvish, with no translation guide) was the only surviving evidence of Tolkien's works.
imo i suspect these books maybe written phoneticaly by someone using a version of the alphabet they grew up with and are just attempting to apply it to a different language and like in past centuries when there was no fixed spelling etc... they had to just get a bit creative lol
So I'm Hmong. And the language never had a real written script. Most of it is romanised and is spelt how the words sound in "English." But just recently (possibly in the last 30 years) someone developed the actual script for the language. Most Hmong can't even read this "new script" tho but can read more of the English script, even if those Hmong can't even read English. I always found that pretty interesting.
This is fascinating to learn and I’m curious to know more about who, how and why they came up with the script. Is it based on scripts of the local area? .
It ties into how this episode highlights that much of the history we know of well has been reliant on it being recorded somehow which means there could easily be an amazing amount that has disappeared without leaving a trace of its existence. I truly admire the efforts of archeologists and scientists to discover and piece together our pre-history
FYI, the Indus Valley Script has had some breakthroughs, not the least of which is that most of the characters are probably names, the direction it was written, and more. There's a great TED Talk about it.
The mystery of the Rohonc Codex makes me want to play the long game and fake some "important literature from an unknown language", writing some lengthy text in a fictional language with few, if any, hints to how to translate it, then either bury it in a time capsule that says not to open it until 2400 or something, or pass it down to my future kids and have them pass it down to theirs, so on and so forth, all so that in some distant era, when people find it, they spend ages trying to decode and translate the "lamguage", thrown off by a lot of random gibberish and such to complicate it, only for the it to somewhere say something like "Dear historians and archeologists of the future. I just wasted your time."
Hi Kahadi. Have you heard the saying, "As you sow, so shall you reap"? It says in effect that in the end we all get exactly what we deserve, no more and no less. So your dreams might come true. If I was King of Karma, I'd make sure that YOU were reborn to become the scientist of 2400 who frustrates his life away trying to decipher the nonsense he'd created 400 years previously when he was you. And part of your experience as that scientist would be to receive yourself the public humiliation and scorn that you're planning for others. As King of Karma I'd laugh at you just as you're gleefully laughing at making yourself a "force for ignorance" in the future. Can you see any moral fault in my plan? Take an honest look at yourself too. Cheers, P.R.
As a military history enthousiast, when you mentioned Malta’s claim to fame, I half-expected you to say it was the allies’ unsinkable aircraft carrier in WWII Lol
One of the best episodes I have watched. Thank you Simon, that was a whole heap of fun. MORE!
Simon dear, please make the Indus Valley video! :) Also deep dive videos about other ancient (maybe less known) civilizations would be cool ;)
More ancient mysteries please.
I would definitely love to see a video about the Pythagorean cult. Thank you!!
I love most of what comes out of the Whistlerverse, but that conclusion was a right banger!
Yes please, a deep dive into the Indus Valley civilization would be much appreciated.
Malta - been there, lived there, done that. Wish I'd been old enough to appreciate the Hypogeum properly. Seriously, it is the most fascinating and beautiful places, if you have the chance, go there.
I would love to see a detailed video of Indus civilisation
I love Pythagorean everything! I'm intrigued to see what your wonderful writers & researchers would find ❤️♾️❤️
I was thinking the song you were going to refer to was "Stayin Alive" by the Bee Gees. The beat of this song is the beat you are recommended to follow when you give CPR.
I adore this channel, it's so satisfyingly interesting and smoothly high quality and easy to watch and listen to
Amazing topics as always 😄 I’d love a video about that civilization.
My honeymoon cruise included Malta. It is truly one of the most beautiful places on Earth and has an amazing history.
Have you been to British Columbia, Canada?
Less history, but so beautiful 😍
@@asylumental little Hollywood? No, but I have heard the mountains are gorgeous!
My niece is currently working there. Beautiful place.
Simon, you could start a do a history series covering every society beginning with the Mesopotamians, in this valley, early China, and just keep going from there. 😀
Don't tell him that, he'll start a whole new channel and I don't think he can sleep NOW!
@@maryellen9503 He's lost a few channels recently, so I am pretty sure he's got space to add more now. 🤣
Yes to expanded videos on all these topics❤
Yes, I know other people have done videos on the Indus valley, but I love your format.Please do one
"What reason would a culture with limited resources, have to put such time and effort into building these intricate megaliths?" It's like you've never heard of the Easter Islands lol, upgrade the limited resources by a giant factor, and the effort into building intricate megaliths by an even larger factor...
Please the indus river civilization stuff is so interesting!
I was crushed when they finally cracked the Voynch Manuscript. We need mystery in our lives.
They did? What did it end up being?
Nice! This was an especially fascinating episode, so thank!👏
Do more indus river culture vidz.
They are so awe inspiring
A dedicated Indus Valley video would be awesome.
Really like the tone of this video. Far less serious than the others I've watched. You can even hear it in his voice. I wish more were this style.
Yes Please! in regards to videos focusing on the Indus Valley & the Pythagoreans.
I love the link between the initial micro-mystery and the song. Very interesting stuff!
Just a whole video on Smooth Criminal would be good.
I just discovered this channel today and yes make a thousand of these lol
You'll want to spit shine His Bald head in No Time 👍...
Annie.... that's a random fact that will be forever stuck in my brain. Thanks Simon and writer.
I love these sort of mysteries, I could just listen or read about ancient civilizations forever, its so fascinating. Its even more interesting when we just don't know and you can let your own brain go wild but, I don't think anyone would get it, if you weren't alive then, you honestly have no exact idea how everyone acted and everything worked so essentially its all a mystery. Also history is always changing with new discoveries. We're using our 20th century brains to try and imagine something so old, we just couldn't conceive of exactly what the people thought like if you never lived it. Thats what I like about history in general.❤
My moms side of the family is from Malta and we still have family over in Malta. I love learning more about Malta 🇲🇹 ❤
Relly interesting video and I would like to know more about all the different topics talked about in it! It was fascinating.
I’d love to see a video on ancient cults if that is something you guys are willing to do.
Great stuff! Maybe you need yet another channel of just ancient mysteries… haha
@17:00 I'd love for you to make a video on the cult of Pythagoras and/or a list video about some cults you find fascinating
That ending was a gosh darn rollercoaster.
Bump Indus civilization deep dive - would be awesome
Wow, I knew that the Annie rescue doll was made from that girls death mask, I never knew that it inspired Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal song, lol!
Also when I was younger I spent many years collect all kinds of books on any ancient civilizations from the area called Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley people were one of my favorites, but since this was also around the late 1980s and early 1990s, the books I found had very little information on any of them, but that's also why I bought a lot of books about the whole area. I learned about the Sumerians, the Indus people, along with the Egyptians, Greeks and the Romans, and many others that existed back then, by reading all these different books. But now with the internet I have gotten to learn a whole lot more, thanks to channels like this one, well a lot of the ones Simon narrates of course.
And so what I'm saying is I would welcome a whole video about the Indus Valley, as well as other Mesopotamian civilizations that aren't as well talked about as say Egypt of course!
Let us have a video on the IVC (Indus Valley Civilisation).
Thank you for talking about Malta! Makes me proud to be from here
Please tell me I'm not the only one who, during first aid training while demonstrating "rousing the patient", shook the dummy and said "Annie, Annie - are you okay Annie?" 🙃
Would love a in depth video on the Indus valley civilization
Nice one, well written and presented. Cheers.
pure fire, simon! we love ancient mysteries
"L'Incconu de la Seine" is also better known to us today as "Resussa Annie". This lovely girl's face was used to make the resuscitation training dummy for First Aid lessons.
Very happy to see you still making videos, your replacement on the other channels is terrible. You are great as a host, love your presentation style.❤❤
I know. It is a shame. I just can't watch those channels any more.
I definitely want to hear more about the Pythagorean cult!
Need more on the Indus Valley Civ!! Fascinating
I can't stand loose ends, but sometimes they're inevitable. Simon's videos on these mysteries make me a little more comfortable, especially knowing that we don't know many things from centuries or millennia ago.
Hi Simon, I think you need to take another round on the backstory of the save Annie doll. The face used is indeed from a real person, but from one that washed up in London.
The Rohonc Codex mystery sounds quite similar to that of the Voynich Manuscript. Both have been puzzling experts for centuries. Would be funny if the same person made them both up. Lol
I love the archeology episodes! Yes please do more
Well, now I'm gonna have some Smooth Criminal stuck in my head the rest of the day, lol
My boy lets go!
Calm down Bergie 😂 #loveisland
fact boi