Questionably Ranking Every MLB Baseball Stadium's Transit!
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In honor of opening week join me as I rank the transit accessibility of every MLB baseball stadium in the United States and Canada.
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Yes, I know I missed many things (looking at Chicago White Sox) and my rating system is far from perfect. This was my first time making a video like this and I've learned a lot! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Cleveland Indians are now the Cleveland Guardians
As a European (Amsterdam) I love to visit the USA and the sports it has to offer, but your (public) transport can be a bit confusing… if there is any in the first place. Considering this, I much appreciated your video. Definitely a niche you found here, keep up the work!
Regarding Minneapolis, their stadium is also served by the Northstar commuter rail which offers special event services for Twins games as well as Vikings games. And regarding Detroit, besides the QLine, the Tigers and Lions stadiums are also served by the Detroit People Mover at Grand Circus Park as well. The thing most people forget is that it was never intended to be a standalone system. Because the city and suburbs could not agree on how to utilize federal money (600 million was promised by Gerald Ford) to build a subway system, the only thing that got built was the downtown circulator and the money promised was withdrawn by Reagan. But really it was supposed to connect different feeder rail lines along Fort, Grand River (Times Sq), Gratiot (Cadillac Center), Woodward (Grand Circus) & Michigan. The QLine built in 2017 is a step closer to that old vision.
Something to mention regarding Dodger Stadium's location is that its Chavez Ravine location was once home to the Mexican-American community of Palo Verde. The community was also Jewish too, the first Jewish site in Los Angeles was a Jewish cemetery located in Chavez Ravine. The majority of the Chavez Ravine land was initially acquired by eminent domain by the City of Los Angeles to make way for proposed public housing but in 1958, the city chose to abandon this plan in favor of Dodger Stadium. About 1,800 families were forced to leave the land that eventually became Dodger Stadium. There was significant resistance to the eviction by the residents. After nearly 10 years, by 1959 Manuel and Abrana Arechiga with their daughter Aurora were among the last of the tiny number of residents to hold out.
Interesting note about Northstar, I was under the impression they did not run trains for Minnesota Twins games. But I didn’t know they did run some for Vikings games.
As a Yankees fan, can definitely vouch for its transport. Multiple subway lines, metro north station, AND it has a special gameday service so all metro north lines (including from Connecticut) go to the stop.
It also has an LIRR station attached to Citi Field, and so is the 7 train. When Roosevelt Raceway was being torn down, I openly recommended a new stadium for the "New York" Jets on the radio. The DJ's there told me there would be no transit connection if it were built, but I was going to remind them of the LIRR Central Branch, Unfortunately, I got cut off before I give them that tip.
One advantage Seattle has is that the ballpark is actually within reasonable walking distance of the Puget Sound ferry terminal! Some fans from across the sound do come to the games by ferryboat!
so convenient!
Before the Atlanta Braves moved, they used to play at Turner Field downtown between 1997 and 2016, which was formerly the Centennial Olympic Stadium in 1996 (and before that, they played at the Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium which was next door and demolished in 1997). The stadium was originally constructed with 85,000 seats! It was built with baseball conversion in mind, because of this the stadium looked weird during the Olympics as the southwest corner of the Olympic Stadium was built to accommodate the future baseball infield and seating and so in the Olympic configuration of the stadium, the seats of that section were not next to the running track. After the Summer Paralympics, the north end of the stadium was removed so it could become a 49,000-seat baseball park. After the Braves opted to leave, Georgia State University acquired the stadium site and it was converted into a college football stadium!
Mets fans even call themselves the 7 Line Army! The parking lot on the west side of Citi Field is being redeveloped as Metropolitan Park that includes a casino, hotel, bars, restaurants, a live-music venue, 20 acres of public parkland, and more. The parking will be turned into multi-story garages. And the east side of Citi Field is redeveloping Willets Point's notorious junkyards (Willets Point inspired the Valley of Ashes in the Great Gatsby) into a new residential/entertainment complex with an MLS stadium. Besides serving the sports venues in Flushing Meadows, the best part about the 7 is all the diverse neighborhoods it connects. To put things into perspective, approximately 800 languages are spoken in NYC, with 300 spoken along Roosevelt Ave that the 7 serves! Really shows that NYC is truly the international city!
Citi Field's exterior facade was inspired by the Ebbets Field where the Brooklyn Dodgers played! The reason the Dodgers moved to LA is because the Dodgers wanted a domed stadium at Atlantic Terminal as Ebbets Field couldn't handle the crowds and they wanted to stay in Brooklyn, but Robert Moses refused to help them secure the land at Atlantic Terminal, then Dodgers flirted the idea of moving to LA, Robert offered Flushing, but they said "We're the Brooklyn Dodgers, not the Queens Dodgers" and preferred to move to LA than become the Queens Dodgers! The Mets were founded in 1962, and they first played in the Polo Grounds in Manhattan before moving to Flushing in 1964. The Dodgers got their name because of trolleys! Fans would dodge trolley tracks to reach the stadium, as PCC trolleys were once such a part of the Brooklyn scene, so they were called the Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers!
The 7 is known as the International Express! This is for the languages of the neighborhoods the 7 serves, the 1964 NY World's Fair, but also because the UN General Assembly used to be at Flushing Meadows! At what's now the Queens Museum. They'd run shuttle buses from Flushing-Meadows to Lake Success in Nassau County to the temporary UN headquarters as well! In June 1999, the US government designated the 7 route as a National Millennium Trail (defined as visionary trails that reflect defining aspects of America's history and culture) along with 15 other routes including the Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail and the Underground Railroad
The 7 line and the cuisines along it are truly incredible - appropriately recognized as a national treasure
I’ve been to Yankee games via MTA, all 3 different subway trains, and bus. It’s crazy the amount of options you have, and they all stop within 2 blocks of the stadium
New York is truly another world.
He gave Toronto 14/10 but not New York 🤯
@@creedencebakken2686it's because Toronto play right next to Union Station.....it is the 2nd most yearly ridership transit station in USA/Canada with 72 million people, number #1 is in Manhattan, Penn Station with 107 million. Grand Central Station also in Manhattan is a close 3rd with 67 million and 4th is in Queens, it is Jamaica Station with 60 million. Yes 3 out of the 4 busiest stations in USA & Canada are in NYC, Infact 5 of the top 10 are in the NYC metro, because New Jersey has 2 stations that rank in the top 10. So does NYC have better transit then Toronto...absolutely, but Union Station on its own is a huge Station ranked at #2, with trains, subways, streetcars, bus terminals, airport train, all connecting rigjt there...Yankees don't play next to Penn Station or Grand Central Station, they play in the Bronx, while granted Bronx still has great transit connections, but probably not as much as Toronto Union Station actually does. It's just the location of the major stations are compared to Yankee Stadium. If Mets or Yankees played in Midtown Manhattan they would win hands down.
Did you use Metro-North?
taking a subway bt yankee stadium is rsiky and not safe
The A's haven't left yet, so I was expecting a review of the Colosseum, which boasts an Amtrak line and a BART station. Still has the giant parking lot, but it was built in the 70's.
One thing that got left out from Oracle Field: the Light Rail includes a connection to BART, but you can walk there (I haven't timed how long, so I'll estimate 20 minutes). The Embarcadero Station is also right next to the ferry building. I've gone to games there via BART and CalTrain, and it's convenient enough that I've actually gotten annoyed when family insists I ride with them when they drive (finding parking is annoying, and getting out even more annoying. Yeah, sitting in traffic while watching the train you could have been on pulling out the station is maddening).
And now for a completely different city: there wasn't a game going on, but the first time I visited Chicago, I decided to visit Wrigley via the L (wasn't renting a car, didn't need to, got everywhere via the L). What struck me is that the station is really close. As in "at no point is it necessary to cross an arterial road, if you leave the station at the right side of the road." That being said, staying in Chicago, not understanding the 5 for Guaranteed Rate Field. It's literally served by the same L line that goes to Wrigley, even if it is on the opposite side of the city. On paper, it has the same Metro access.
Yep the stop is literally called Sox 35th
The 35th/Sox Red Line L station is on the opposite side of the Dan Ryan Expressway (I-90/94) from Comiskey (sorry, I'll never call it by whatever name Reinsdork wants to call it). Not exactly as convenient as Wrigley Field if you're taking the Red Line.
In SF, you also have the recently completed Central Subway as an option to get to Bart (Powell St. Bart station) - its much faster than the Embarcadero light rail - or walk 15 to 20 mins. Also by season's end the new electric trains should be running on Caltrain. I saw one at the station on Tuesday and they look pretty awesome.
Instant like for being a Phillies fan. Go Phils!
I've taken regional rail into suburban station and the subway down to a game many times. I've also driven into the parking lot and tailgated with friends. It's always a fun time no matter what you do. Can't beat the vibes of a Phillies game!
go Phils!
White Sox park is super easy to walk to from the Orange Line. I stopped watching after the ridiculous 5/10 rating. It takes less than 3 minutes to walk to the park.
I think you mean the Red Line, but yeah, I agree. Sox Park is rated way too low.
yup, made a mistake forgetting the green line, never been to Chicago either.
@@saulgood8229 Yes, meant the Red Line. Thanks for the correction. Really convenient to get to from downtown.
yea that one pissed me off honestly, it’s next to 3 train lines and 5 bus routes but some how just slightly better than the extremely suburban braves stadium????
@@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227 Probably because you have to cross over the Dan Ryan Expressway to get from the L or Metra to Comiskey. So, I can see where he's coming from by knocking a few points off for Comiskey compared to Wrigley.
I was in Dallas for a convention a few years ago. We always try to attend games when the conventions are in MLB cities. A group trip was planned to see the Texas Rangers play. We were amazed that public transit was not an option from Dallas to Arlington on game days. We had to charter a bus to get everyone there.
One thing about gong to games in Detroit, if you live in Canada, Windsor Transit offers plenty of buses that cross the border and drop you off very near the park. The buses are always waiting for you after the game. I highly recommend it.
the tunnel bus!
Loved the video!
I haven't made a ranking video yet for similar reasons. I think you do really good keeping it simple. These are never perfect so I wouldn't sweat it. Also love your narration, really good diction.
Thanks for the kind words, this video has blown up, which is awesome but also it did get a lot of criticism. I’m always open to constructive criticism, but some people seem a bit rude. I think people just personally identify a lot with their team and Home stadium so when I criticize it, or make a mistake it really hits Home.
Last time i was at Oakland Coliseum there's a BART station that has a walkway connecting the station to the stadium and an Amtrak stop nearby.
So happy to see Fenway given a 9/10. Truly a transit system worthy of one of the best stadiums in the US. Ironically, the Green Line Kenmore stop is closer to the actual Fenway Park than the one named "Fenway" on the Green Line D branch.
Kenmore is closer but, if you come in on the D line, get off at Fenway and walk to the park. Far better experience. Going out too.
the reason for not giving it a 10 doesn’t hold up: the time is way off, whatever he used was out of date and laughable
@@riff2072not really closer, just less congested because of the crowd getting off at Kenmore…it’s the better option for getting home too
@@bostonrailfan2427 So, the T has magically solved all of their problems with maintenance on the Green Line? I think that's why Fenway lost a point in the final ratings.
@@bostonrailfan2427 I grew up in Boston and became a baseball fan there and personally I think the transit access to Fenway leaves a lot to be desired. The Green Line is literally the worst subway in the US (and maybe the developed world). The trains are very slow, take forever to load (you won't see it this season given how bad the team is likely to be but remember the huge lines post-game streaming out of the Kenmore station) and are extremely crowded (think sardine cans) - it's just ridiculous that a city that is not designed around the automobile has such bad transit. To name a few, Toronto, San Francisco, both New York parks and both Chicago parks have better transit service. And I'd also include Philadelphia as the Broad Street Line moves a crowd much more efficiently than the Green Line.
Unless you’re crossing the Rod Robbie Bridge from the bottom of John Street, or taking the 510 to Spadina and Bremner, the walk from Union Station through the Skywalk to Rogers Centre is basically a ritual for Blue Jays fans from the entire region. The fact is Union Station is the backbone of transit infrastructure in the City of Toronto, especially as even the intercity buses have been moved to Union from the old Coach Terminal off Dundas/Bay
most should not be driving to a blue jays game lol
@@sammymarrco47 Hey, better then where they started in the American League, to the west at Exhibition Stadium - aka "The Mistake by the Lake" - which they shared with the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian Football League. (Rogers Centre, then called Skydome, was a multi-use stadium built for both teams, but is now baseball only once BMO Field was built on the Exhibition grounds near where Exhibition Stadium was located, and the Argos moved there. Incidentally, that stadium has decent transit connections, with Exhibition GO and the terminus of the 509 streetcar, which also runs by the Rogers Centre - which will be very helpful when the stadium hosts 6 matches for the 2026 World Cup.)
@@sammymarrco47No, but some people just walk from home.
Guaranteed Rate Field not only has Rock Island, but Red Line is a high-capacity route and is highly used. I'd give it a higher score 8 if you want to take it away for the highway. Wrigley can't be lower than Fenway. Fenway has the green line, (light rail) while the red line has a higher capacity. Most people use the Red/purple lines to get to the ballpark because parking is so difficult. I'd give Wrigley a 9 of 10 only because the rail cars are smaller than NYCTransit rail cars and there is no commuter rail. Yankee is a 10/10. 4, B,D trains (very frequent high capacity routes) plus a metro north station. I'm a Yankee fan over the Mets, and I'll still say you can't give Citi Field lower than a 9 - the number 7 is the best transit route in the USA. Runs every two minutes. Express is 25 minutes to Grand Central. LIRR carries a bunch too as the Pt Wash branch runs every 30 minutes. More frequent during rush hours. There is also a huge infill plan at Citi as well as in Philly.
thanks for the extra info, there's only so much I could do from home.
Cool thing about the Twins is there's a direct light rail connection between Target Field and the AAA park across town in St Paul. Door-to-door in about an hour without any transfers.
5/10 is a fair rating for Citizens Bank Park. The road traffic at/after game time is horrendous. It's nice that SEPTA runs Sports Express trains for games and does a lot of free fare times after games, but as you note, it's unfortunate that the entire complex sits at the very end of ONE line 😔
indeed, go birds and Phils!
The only time I've taken public transit to a game was in Denver. During the summer, they offered free public transit. We took the light rail from near our hotel to Union Station. It was crowded (mostly Yankees fans like myself), but so nice to not have to worry about parking. And it was about a 10 minute walk from the station to the stadium.
The Rogers Stadium in Toronto is less than a 150 metres from the Union Station GO station and the TTC subway.
9:17 Oracle park has a 2 dock ferry terminal right behind the scoreboard. Service is ran on game days from Marin and Vallejo. Ironically if the A’s move service to Jack London Sq in Oakland would likely be added.
yeah as someone who doesn't live near large bodies of water I didn't even remember the ferry.
@@sammymarrco47 unfortunately people who live in the bay area, Seattle, and NYC seem to forget about them too. They could be used so much better.
10:56 Your rating for SkyDome / Rogers Centre (14/10) is hilarious!
Also wildly understating the point. It might be the best situated sports facility in the world.
I've been to Petco Park, and the MTS is not a bad ride. While it's technically not free, I have never had my ticket checked (although on game day, it may be different). They drop you off about a 10 minute walk from the entrance, and the city is quite nice.
I've been to 27 of the 30 MLB stadiums and have taken transit to pretty much all of them that have accessible transit - I do have a few comments on your rankings -
1. Toronto is definitely #1 for the reasons you mentioned - you're a very short walk from Union Station which is the hub of all things transit in greater Toronto giving you access to TTC subways and GO commuter rail. As you would expect in Canada, transit in Toronto is safe, clean and well patronized.
2. Citi field should rate a 9 - dinging it for the parking lot makes no sense as it doesn't detract from the transit accessibility. You have both local and express 7 line subway service and LIRR to suburban points on Long Island. It's not like you have to walk through the parking lot to get to the transit stations. The parking lot is there because the original stadium on this site, Shea Stadium, was built at the height of car-centric suburban development and the nadir of transit friendly development in the 1960s. It's similar to Yankee Stadium in that you have both commuter rail and subway although to be fair there are more subway lines that converge around Yankee Stadium whereas at Citi you just have the 7 train. However, the 7 train has got to be one of the great transit experiences in the country given the plethora of ethnicities represented along its route and the many international cuisines available in Queens.
3. Fenway should be a 7 - the Green Line that serves Fenway is extremely slow and very crowded. Transfers to other MBTA lines or commuter rail are required to get many places (unless you're just taking the Framingham/Worcester commuter rail) and given the slowness and crowded conditions on the Green Line they can be very unreliable. You dinged Philadelphia because of the need to transfer in Center City but the Broad Street Line has much higher capacity than the Boston Green Line and the transfers are pretty easy in part because, unlike with many US public transit systems, SEPTA operates the entire network including bus, subway, trolleys/streetcars and commuter rail. Also, once you get to Center City you can pretty much go anywhere on the SEPTA network.
4. Philadelphia should be at least a 7 - see comments above.
5. Miami should be 1 or 2 - its not really near Little Havana (or at least the hub of Little Havana along Calle Ocho (8th street) nor is it anywhere near Miami Metrorail (which has pretty good service between downtown and the airport).I would venture to guess that the Marlins attendance problems are attributable to the location of their stadium which from a distance looks like a large UFO that crashed into a residential neighborhood.
I love Fenway and Boston, but I agree. Even with the T operating normally, Fenway's definitely not a 9/10 for transit. The green line has great frequencies in the trunk, but it's still just a trolley and with its low capacity per vehicle, it really struggles with the game day crowds compared to an actual heavy rail subway. The general walkabiliy of Boston makes up some of the difference - but Fenway's a long way from Yankee Stadium when it comes to transit access. Also, if he wanted to to be picky, you do have to walk over a highway to reach the stadium from Kenmore (at least for now) .
On the other hand, Fenway's proximity and (almost) direct green line connection to Back Bay Station means that it's probably one of the most easily accessible for tourists and fans of visiting teams (via Amtrak's NEC and the Logan Express shuttle). Camden Yards would be up there too. I'd be curious to see some rankings try to quantify that.
PetCo deserves at least an 8/10. Its literally a 5 minutes Trolley ride from Amtrak's Santa Fe Depot (three trolley lines serve it and the San Diego Trolley runs about every 10-15 minutes)...and you can practically walk there from the middle of town. It's at the south end of historic Gaslamp Quarters., so it should get bonus for location and proximity to just about everything. (this is coming from a Dodger fan btw...)
Glad we weren’t last
-Brewers fan
Honestly a lot of brewers fans embrace the parking lots outside the stadium. Mostly because they love to tailgate before the games.
Tailgate instead of Transit. Seems like a fair tradeoff. Well, unless you don't have a car.
@@kevwwong I’m not one of those fans. I do think we need better transit in the area. I’m just saying that they are like that.
@@wilderac2250 Fair enough.
Here is aspect most would never consider, Back when I was a trucker, my favorite pastime was to attend ball games from Applachian league up to MLB, satisfying my love of both baseball stadiums and metro systems, In one 14 day period I attended a game every day starting in Texas going to Baltimore and then clear back to the West coast. Anyways, it often took a lot of manouvering to find a place to park a truck and get to the game, one location stood out, St Louis you could park at the enormous parking lot owned by the casino on the IL side which has a metrolink station that of course has a great connnection to the ballpark. The casino when they saw you pull in would send a little shuttle bus out to give you a lift to either the casino or the Metrolink station, they didnt care if you spent money in the casino or not. I could easily in under an hours time go from rolling down the intersate to standing for the National Anthem at (old) Busch Stadium.
wow so you would park the truck in the suburbs and take the train in ?
@@sammymarrco47 different for every location, Cubs games I had a secret spot on the North end close to an El station, Yankees games a rest area in NJ with a bus connection to Port Authority, but typically yes park some ways away and use transit. For every MLB game I attended I did at least 10 minor league games, often times you could park within an easy walk.
Great, comprehensive video! I wonder if Metro still runs short-turning Green Line trains between Mt Vernon Sq and Anacostia (as advertised on WMATA website)
I don't think they do that anymore
I can remember back in the early 2000s when the Phillies had considered the Vet replacement to be next to 30th Street Station, how nice that would have been for the Regional Rail riders. I have always wondered what the numbers are for Northern commuters who change at Fern Rock from the Regional Rail to the Broad Street Subway instead of completing the trip to Suburban.
You didn't mention that the 4 and D (+ B rush hours) subway lines serve Yankee Stadium. It's also served by Metro North commuter rail's Hudson line. Why do Dodger fans always leave early even if the game's still close? Because there's no rail transit.
NYC subway is so complicated unless I live there I don't think ill fully get it unless I live there
@@sammymarrco47 it’s not complicated . It’s really easy, especially getting to and from Yankee stadiums and Citifield
Yeah you are right, Toronto could probably be #1 in MLB transit, & probably #2 for Hockey & Basketball. I saw someone do a list like this before and putting Toronto at like #10 or something, it made no sense based on the volume of transit options.
Having the indoor walking Sky Path connecting Toronto Union Station to the Blue Jays Sky Dome Stadium (now called Roger's Centre) making it less then 15 mins walk is like having a walking path connection to Grand Central Terminal in Manhattan NYC. The volume of yearly ridership at the nearby Union Station can rank it at MLB #1 transit options. The most daily ridership stations in USA/Canada are: #1 NYC Penn Station 107 million. #2 Toronto Union Station 72 million. #3 NYC Grand Central Station 67 million #4 NYC Jamaica Starion 60 million #5 Chicago Union Station 44 million. #6 Chicago Ogilvie Transportation Center 32 million #7 Boston South Station 29 million #8 NJ Newark Penn Station 18 million # NJ Hoboken Terminal 15 million & #10 Washington Union Station 13.5 million
The reason Toronto Union Station has such high ridership is because Toronto has the 2nd most daily transportation ridership after NYC in USA/Canada & everything basically connects at Union Starion having all GO Trains that connect to the sububrbs, a Subway station, a streetcar station, a bus terminal with 2 levels for many different types of buses & distances, UP Train to the airport, and also VIA Rail station (like the Amtrak) connecting to cities like Windsor & Montreal, and I believe you can even get a Amtrak train to NYC from Toronto Union Starion. With so many options, only Madison Square Gardens might beat it being located above NYC Penn Station.
wow you really screwed the white sox over with that one man, it might be a concrete jungle but damn it’s definitely accessible to literally everyone, most sox fans are from the south and west side, the metra train runs down to the south west suburbs and you completely failed to mention to the green line that is about 2 blocks away
yeah I dropped the ball on that one 100%, my bad. My uncle is a WS fan haha.
I had to laugh when I saw what score the Rogers Centre here in Toronto got. Yeah, going by your criteria, we pretty much overperform.
Too bad the Montreal Expos aren't still there, as I would have loved to see what score you would have given Olympic Stadium, aka "The Big O". (If anything, it would probably be higher then what the Washington Nationals - where they relocated to - received.)
You left out the Detroit People Mover which (despite its small range) is very useful for major events. As someone who just visited Truist Park, I can assure you Comerica deserves a better score in that regard. (The sightlines at Truist are way better however)
Downtown Detroit was actually at it's lowest point around 1987. There were a lot more attractions (Opera House, Fox Theatre) and hotels available by 2010, though it's way better today.
I can't believe I forgot the famed people mover, yeah its only good for getting around downtown but not for getting people from their house to the stadium (which is what this video was focusing on)
@sammymarrco47 lot of people live downtown now. And even for people who drive to the game, it allows car traffic to be spread out more and avoid paying higher prices to park next door, without having to walk a long distance.
Oof...bruh..are you baiting us??!?! I'm hooked. A Seattle-litte here: "stadium station" serves both T-Mobile and Lumen field every 8-10min. PLUS extra trains are operated because the yard is just down the street. It's a 10 min walk from the station. Additionally, there are 5 bus lines that run every 15 min EACH within a
yeah prob deserves a 6.5, the highways though docked a few points.
3:30 There is an underground walkway from Tower City(where to catch the trains) that runs to Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse which is pretty much right next to Progressive field.
thanks for the extra info!
haha love this! if you're up for it the comparison between nfl and mlb stadiums wrt local economic impact/walkability/general pleasantness is also interesting - only having ~10 home games and usually huge parking lots for tailgates means that nfl stadiums don't tend to spur the same development that "ballpark areas" do
that'd be a massive video, this one took months (of sporadic working)
fair enough 😎@@sammymarrco47
I was a bit baffled by some of the lower ratings you gave and see a number comments agreeing with that sentiment (for example the White Sox, Mariners, Twins, Mets, Pirates), but I think I now understand why. You included aspects such as transit-oriented development and urban design philosophy (highways, parking lots, etc.) around stadiums into your opinions as opposed to strictly transit access to the stadium (which is what some people including myself were expecting given the video title)
Thank you, yes I believe I said in the points part that I would take off or add points as I see it.
Kind of funny how the presence of the Gardiner Expressway fails to have any impact on Toronto's rating.
Also, for future reference, the second T in Toronto is silent.
dang it i know that, did I really say it at toronToe, ugh terano is the right way!
@@sammymarrco47 You were kind of all over the place with it to be honest.
Tranna
Minne-an-apolis? Come on, man.
came to the comments to see if anyone else brought this up
its always been hard for me to pronounce
@@sammymarrco47 Mini-apple-us. Or if you want to pronounce it like a native, "Mini-app-lus."
Toronto is too perfect for transit that you literally just have to take one ride downtown and boom, you're right there. And while you do have to walk outside after going through a sky bridge, you can never be too far from a streetcar. Hell, even if you went there just by using the TTC, the stadium is LITERALLY RIGHT THERE.
Commenting from St. Louis. I would have to rate Cardinals higher than five simply because of how close the stadium is to the light rail station. The station is right below the Third Base Gate Entrance. I can get off the train and be in the ball park within five minutes. There is also a Red Bird Express Bus that transports fans from the Illinois side (Fairview Heights) directly to the stadium as well. Also, Fly Eagles Fly 🦅
Most of the legacy systems (New York, Chicago etc) have equipment or physical plant problems, which detract from it all, but that's still better than the sorry situations with KC and Texas. It will get better for the Royals if as proposed they move downtown. Bus service is much better in that part of town. Unless Arlington gets off its rear end and starts an actual fixed route system, things will likely stay the same. Added note here: Trinity Rail Express does not run Sundays. I don't think Via does either. That means a LONG, expensive Uber or Lyft from wherever. 😢
The Purple doesn’t directly stop @ Wrigley, just the Red
How did you NOT mention the Green Line that is a short 2 minute walk from the Red Line when you talked about Guaranteed Rate Field but mention the Purple Line which is 1/2 mile north of Wrigley Field but only stops there inbound fir nught Cub games during the week and you also mention the Brown Line whuch stoos at either Belmont * 1/2 mile from Wrigley) ir Southport ( ( 3/8 mile west and 1/4 mile south of Wrigley(? The Green Line is infinitely cliser to the Sox ballpark than bith the Purple and Briwn Lunes are to Wrigley yet yoy neglected to mention it. Add to the fact the 29 State (one of the 5 bys roytes that fit yoyr oarameters if serving Guaranteed Rate Field) is mere steps from the Green Line station 35th- Bronzeville- IIT.
because I'm human and make mistakes, everyone refer to @mrahollandjr if you plan to take transit to a Chicago game!
Transit is the only reasonable way to see a baseball game in Toronto. Driving a car, finding parking at or near the stadium is impossible. The Toronto sport venues are very transit friendly.
That and by foot. Lots of expensive condos in the area.
2:30 I have to push back on Wrigley having better transit accessibility than Guaranteed Rate Field. The Purple Line doesn't stop at Addison and you failed to mention the 35th-Bronzeville-IIT Green Line station that's only about 3 blocks east of GRF.
yeah I own the green line mistake, lots of Chicago people in these comments.
Pittsburgh should be better than 4/10. Very easy to walk from downtown and it's actually located in an urban space rather than the middle of nowhere.
yeah, in hindsight your're correct, its that the transit is not as good as some others on this list. (every 30 mins for each rail line sometimes)
I've had that same issue with google earth exported videos. I recommend running them through the software handbrake before putting into your editing software. That's fixed all my issues.
yeah I had to do a lot of shenanigans to get it working lol
With Las Vegas ,the Deuce is actually listed as the 301
Great video I loved that Toronto blew away your rating system!!🤣🤣
Glad you enjoyed it
@@sammymarrco47 I did especially when Toronto came out on top . I got a chuckle when you said we blew out your rating system lol
Go Birds. I live in new york now and yankew stadium, citi field ( us open) are all super accessible. Metro north and LIRR also service these. I remember my dad i used to driver over Walt Whitman bridge to get to citizens bank park it wasnt too bad.
T-Mobile Park in Seattle, the nearest LightRail station is like a 10 minute walk on avg (depending on your pace) & the LightRail in the area is very convenient in the Seattle area (which it’s slooooooowly being expanded in the nearest suburbs. Also several bus routes & as someone mentioned earlier, like a 10-15 minute walk to a ferry. I would give it 6 or 7 out of 10 actually.
its good but all the highways and parking are not giving it any favors, maybe its gotten better since google maps took the pics ?
@@sammymarrco47 there’s 2 main parking garages right next to the ballpark (one the Mariners own right across the street on Edgar Martinez Dr.) & the other right at Lumen Field. Also there’s a lot of street parking in the ballpark area. Especially south of the ballpark on streets 1st Ave S, Occidental Ave, 3rd Ave S, 4th Ave S. The further you are the longer the walk.
So nice to just pull into a big parking lot at Citizens Bank Park and not have to find a parking garage downtown.
Yankees stadium has the 4 train and D train underground. Plenty of Yankee express to Manhattan on game days.
I was expecting a 6/10 for Toronto not 14/10 😂😂💀
all the GO trains really helps lol
Yankee Stadium is an office building with a baseball stadium inside it. Citi Field IS a baseball stadium! Been to both and I think you rated Citi Field a little too low as the subway takes you right to the entrance of Citi Field.
The problem is that Mets-Willets Point is a bit farther out of the way and a bit less connected than 161 St-Yankee Stadium.
@@sblack53I’m a Yankee fan and it’s not “out of the way” the 7 train is 30 minutes from midtown and the LIRR is 10 minutes from Penn. they have less lines but are both the same amount of time from midtown. Citifield should be a 9 out of 10 because there’s only one subway that goes there
@@sblack53stop it. Citifield is named after a bank
6:27 Milwaukee used to have a direct non-stop bus route from Downtown to Miller Park for Brewers game days, but I think it was discontinued a few years ago.
7:45 I don't think it was fair to mention Las Vegas since the A's haven't left Oakland yet. As bad as the Oakland Coliseum is, there's at least a BART station in relative proximity.
10:17 Globe Life Field should've been given a 0/10, especially given that Arlington voters have famously rejected a sales tax levy to fund actual transit services. Also, Arlington's VIA service stops operating at 9:00pm and doesn't operate on Sundays; the TRE train also doesn't operate on Sundays, so to rank Globe Life Field ahead of Kaufman Stadium on a transit scale is, quite frankly, wrong (at least Kaufman has a bus route or two, even with a lengthy walk).
Dang I didn’t know VIA was so limited. Also good thing that baseball games also run mon-sat. Part of the rating was land use near the stadiums and Dallas isn’t good by any stanch there a bit more to go. Dallas prob should get 1.5/10. Thanks for the extra info!
Can’t count the amount of times I’ve taken the Capitol Corridor to A’s games. It seriously beats traffic any and everyday especially for anyone coming from Sacramento
do you often see other A's fans on the train ?
I've taken the Capitol Corridor to a game from Sac, and there were about 40 people waiting for the train after the game. That said, it was about 10 years ago, and I usually drive because of the convenient parking lots. Sadly, I don't know if I'll ever go to an A's game again, if they leave for Vegas. Maybe one more time to say goodbye.
Plus, the A's won't be in Vegas for at least three more seasons, if ever. This review really should have just reviewed the colosseum, given the fact that not even John Fisher knows where the A's will play next year.
@@sammymarrco47 Not as much as it used to be as expected. But man I remember one battle of the bay back in 2014. The train was full of A’s and Giants fans who were chanting so much it was an incredible atmosphere
It should be pointed out for Cleveland that the Tower City station is less than 10 minutes away, there's a pedestrian walkway directly to the stadium, so you don't need to go on surface roads.
oh epic, didn't know that. Google, add it!
I suppose that the Washington Nationals stadium has something in common with Montreal's Olympic Stadium. I took the (Montreal) Mètro to see the team that would become the Nationals many times when they were still the Montreal Expos.
I have taken transit to every stadium I've visited: Dodgers, Giants, Angels, A's, White Sox, Cubs...I guess that's it.
I work at oracle park and i can confirm that there is 2 metro lines caltrain and 4 bus routes
yep its easy to get to!
You can't dock Angel Stadium for the frequency of metrolink trains and then give the Dodgers a point because of how "close" it is to Union Station.
my system isn't perfect, but Union is way more central and is served way more then the station near the Angles. Plus there a bus on game day from Union to the stadium so its made a bit "closer" by that.
And the Golden Gate Ferry stops at Oracle Park.
The lightrail in minneapolis has recently been cleaned up a lot
Yeah he shouldn't dock points off target field for its light rail, its perfectly safe for twins games. Also he didn't mention the Northstar trains.
good to hear!
The car hatred is strong with this one.
Rating by transit is clearly in the title.
@@sammymarrco47 Yes. Yes it is. Transit is fine as an option. Throwing shade on those mean nasty cars, well that gets old quick.
If ONLY someone would man up and extend MARTA to Truist Park... Looking at you Georgia!
or they could have kept the park that was in the city.
There's a lot of attractions in that area but it is so cut off and isolated from the rest of Atlanta.
Nice stadium development complex, terrible location.
I do not understand why a lite rail gets 2 points while a subway gets only 1 ??? Subways to Yankee stadium and Citifield have 10 to 12 cars and arrive every 5 minutes during game times. For the 7 line at Citi field, they line them up waiting for the end of the game. There is no lite rail that can move so many so quickly as NYC subways. Also Metro North and Long Island Rail Road goes to Yankee / Mets. Both have bus lines.
Both LR and subways get 2 points if trains come every 15 mins or less.
Tampa Bay 's transit access is a joke! No transit between Tampa and St.Pete ( both cities have SEPARATE transit authorities) and really don't want to coordinate with each other. And that I-275 is a nightmare!
its unfortunate, sunrunner looks cool tho!
Some cities may have been ranked too low, but as someone who now lives in the Tampa area, it should've been ranked lower lol
It's a shame really, because Tropicana Field is in a nice urban area (more like a Wrigleyville or Fenway than how Coors or Comerica are in the main downtown) and served well by local transit. The parking lots surrounding the stadium were a product of it being built in the 80s.
Having a rapid transit line that goes from Tampa to St Pete would help attendance a lot. The Trop is actually a very nice place to watch a game despite the roof being old and having a dated design.
Citifield should be 9/10. It shouldn’t lose points for the parking lot. That lot should give it points.
lolz
@@sammymarrco47 don’t lol. Unless you’ve been there you’ll never know how convenient it is.
another comment said most Mets fans take the train so idk?
It's weird that the stadiums surrounded by parking didn't lose points. Maybe when the system lowballed CitiField with a score of 6 by valuing quantity of connections over quality, they decided to do some arbitrary corrections. Though just giving 1 for being in NYC instead of 2 would’ve given the same result.
Well, he did say "Go Phillies!", so maybe I sense there's a bit of bias involved? 😂
Chase Field only got 4, even though the stadium has its own light rail station? Id expect it higher, especially since T-Mobile Park is a very similar setup, and both have most people coming into the games by rail. The Rangers deserve 0/10 for having no transit at all.
Surrounding area and rail frequency was also considered.
Yankee stadium should be number one with citi field at 2nd. There’s busses, 3 train lines and metro north. Citifield has busses, ONE train line and LIRR.
they both scored pretty high, the video was alphabetical.
Toronto has buses, 4 light rail/streetcar lines close, 1 subway line, GO-Transit=Buses & trains, UP-Express train, Via Rail trains, TTC, even boats, all within a10 minute walk.
When you say trains to Yankee stadium and Citi Field, I think you mean “subways”. We in Westchester county, NY, call metro north “trains”. & the LIRR are “Trains” but When you actually get into NYC GCT (or Penn station) system, then ifs called a “Subway”
@@MikeCee7 We in Ulster County, NY call them all trains because they're all trains.
@@yourmom182412448 since you’re from the cow tipping part of upstate New York. FYI: The trains that go longer distances, from outside of NYC (into NYC) are trains. Once you hop on the NYC metro system. They’re called “subways” (whether they go underground in Manhattan or above ground in the boroughs)
Do the Nba
A 5/10 for Cleveland? Progressive Field is a 5-minute walk from downtown and Tower City, which hosts the Green, Blue, Red, and Waterfront rail lines. You don't even have to cross a single road given the underground walkway between Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse and Tower City. The Euclid BRT is a 5 minute walk away and there are multiple traditional bus routes right outside the stadium.
low frequencies on the LR is what kept it low
What numbers are you citing? Ridership is good on gamedays. I've been to a few hundred Indians/Guardians games in my life and take the rapid ~80% of the time. @@sammymarrco47
I've been the Yankees Stadium many times, and from a transit perspective, it's easily the best in the country IMO.
not surprising, thanks for your input!
Go birds!
LETS GO BOSTON 9/10
Who said the A’s are leaving Oakland? You know something the rest of us don’t?
I thought it was a done deal - www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=b7e072471a5b484fJmltdHM9MTcxMTY3MDQwMCZpZ3VpZD0xODdjM2JlOC1jNDQzLTZhY2UtMWE2ZC0yYmQ5YzU1YzZiYTUmaW5zaWQ9NTU5MQ&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=187c3be8-c443-6ace-1a6d-2bd9c55c6ba5&psq=a%27s+leaving+oakland&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY25uLmNvbS8yMDIzLzExLzE2L3Nwb3J0L21sYi1hcHByb3Zlcy1vYWtsYW5kLWF0aGxldGljcy1sYXMtdmVnYXMvaW5kZXguaHRtbCM6fjp0ZXh0PU1ham9yJTIwTGVhZ3VlJTIwQmFzZWJhbGwlMjBvd25lcnMlMjB1bmFuaW1vdXNseSUyMHZvdGVkJTIwVGh1cnNkYXklMjB0byxBdmVudWUlMkMlMjBvbiUyMHRoZSUyMHNpdGUlMjBvZiUyMHRoZSUyMFRyb3BpY2FuYSUyMGhvdGVsLg&ntb=1
I disagree with 3: Mets should be a 10, as easy to get to as the yankees, white sox should be an 8 or 9, also really easy but the rangers should be a 0, that via app doesnt even count as transport
I did put the White sox too low, but NYers here have said that the Yankees are easier to get to.
I lived in the NYC area for a long time. It's not that Yankee Stadium is easier to get to, it's just a bit closer to the center of the city than Citi Field. Citi Field is just as easy to get to, just takes a little bit longer
6:28 Mini Annapolis? Please learn how to pronounce the city's name. Additionally Target Field is easily the most accessible stadium in MLB. It has a train station built into it that connects the entire city with light rail and Northern Minnesota with heavy rail. There's obviously a giant parking garage and interstate built into it as well. Oh, and a massive pedestrian bridge connecting it all. As for safety, the main light rail train line ends at a freaking theme park mall. You'll be just fine.
NYC’s gotta be better than any other lol. Also I’ve had trouble saying that word my whole life so chill.
@@sammymarrco47 Absolutely not. Do your research. Sure NY has a subway system where you can hop around from train to train. ok. Target Field IS the main terminus for the entire system. You can hop on one single train directly from the MSP airport and the end of that line drops you off at Target Field station.
I have trouble taking this video seriously, if you rate Comiskey Park(White Sox) lower than Kaufmann Stadium and the Angels Stadium. Also why isn't Arlington, TX(for Rangers) lower?
I didn't, its in alphabetical order by city, Rangers has a little bit of development near the stadium, some have actually nothing.
3:07 As an Ohioan, I feel that we will conquer the world so naturally everyone will be coming for us to try and stop our global domination goals.
my siblings keep saying Ohio must be eliminated
Yankee Stadium gets 10/10?! Have you been on the subways in New York City lately?!
never been ever, but its one of the best on the continent
St. Petersburg IS in Tampa Bay which denotes a region. There is nothing contrary about their name.
what I meant is that it's not in the city limits - www.google.com/maps/place/Tampa,+FL/@27.8628249,-82.6705936,55685m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88c2b782b3b9d1e1:0xa75f1389af96b463!8m2!3d27.9516896!4d-82.4587527!16zL20vMG4xcmo?entry=ttu
@@sammymarrco47Tampa Bay refers to the cities of Tampa, St Pete and Clearwater.
It's kinda like how the Patriots don't play in Boston but represent the New England region as a whole anyways, not just Boston.
There is nothing definitely positive about the A's moving to Las Vegas.
not really, sad to see
where in the hell did you get that “30 minute” claim because it doesn’t take 30 minutes to get to Fenway unless you slogged along from Medford/Tufts or Union Square.
17 minutes by Green Line from Government Center, 11 by Framingham/Worcester from South Station. 30 minutes? no. just no.
www.google.com/maps/dir/downtown+boston/fenway+park/@42.3511165,-71.0981489,5389m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m19!4m18!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e370832503ad5b:0x18d02d6e8684bd98!2m2!1d-71.0565313!2d42.3555275!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e379f63f253f6f:0xa2800dcb647a5504!2m2!1d-71.0972178!2d42.3466764!2m3!6e0!7e2!8j1711562400!3e3!5i1?entry=ttu - got it from here, includes walking
@@sammymarrco47 so you didn’t use the actual timetables, nor the website…understood: you’re a fraud for posting the claim
How can Wrigley be anything less than a 10? Right off a train stop on a popular buss route in the most walkable part of the city. These rankings make no sense
because the Red line isn't perfect and I had to factor places like Toronto that are even better. It's also somewhat subjective.
@@sammymarrco47I disagree that Toronto being better should be a factor.
If you were ranking them 30-1, then sure put Toronto ahead of Wrigley. But you used score voting, so both can be 10/10 if you like.
If you cannot find a way to Yankee Stadium, you probably shouldn’t leave the house.
haha yeah, its the center of the bronx basically
The surface parking lot at Citi Field is a very hot topic right now as there are plans to redevelop it. However the big issue is that the leading bid is for a casino, which isn’t popular with the generally working class neighborhood nearby. I prefer the bid for a large youth sports complex and green space. On top of this, the Citi Field parking lot does have some uses, as it’s where most music festivals in the tri-state take place.
id rather go to a festival in a park then a lot.
You have it wrong .there are no plans to take parking away.
What you're talking about is the eyesore of buildings across the street that are going to be knocked down for different projects.
@@user-rv8lg5oc6w They are right actually. There are plans to redevelop a large part of the parking lot to the west of Citi Field (where Shea Stadium used to be). Those plans include parking garages, so the amount of parking spaces will stay the same or maybe even increase (not sure)
@@user-rv8lg5oc6w No, I am correct. There are two seperate developments going on. One is led by the NYCFC stadium, on the east of the stadium, replacing the Willets Points junk yards. The parking lot redevelopment by Steve Cohen (Mets owner), and includes casino and youth sports complex.
@@sammymarrco47 unfortunately the only real park that is open to festivals is Randall’s Island, and it’s a shitshow both times I have been in terms of transportation. Long hike to Lex-125. Flushing Meadows was not ideal either when I went last too. However, if they go through with a green space proposal for the lots it can keep its festival use, which I like as it saves me from having to go to NJ.
Take away the other stuff, just based on your transit criteria alone, White Sox is a 10.
Like I wrote on the pin comment I did make a mistake with the Chicago White Sox. No doubt. Just looked again and it looks like somewhere around 6.5 to 8 is what I would’ve given it if I didn’t just completely forget that one line.
@@sammymarrco47 Didn't see that. All good. I like the idea of the ranking based on transit and some of the criteria.
Light Rail AKA known as the crime train here in Portland is a joke for moving lots of people within a reasonable period of time.
well commuter and metros I guess, not a huge fan of light rail tbh
I don’t care about sports. To me it’s a scam. It feels like I’m paying to watch people run around and dance with a bat. On top of that overpriced food as well.
well not everyone thinks that, to each their own.
#stopsayingfirstgenalphaplease:D
What?
stop using ai in your thumbnails.
i love your content its just i cant with people like you who are creators and thus artists stealing other's art in their thumbnail.
I would’ve used a real picture but I couldn’t find or take any. If anyone is “stealing” it’s Microsoft and the government is slowly working on legislation on that. I don’t plan to use AI for the vast majority of thumbnails but it’s useful once in awhile.
How do you know the thumbnail is AI? And big deal with it is. Is this a picture of your home or something in the background?
@@MikeCee7 the thumbnail was changed, but the original thumbnail showed a dmu train with a deisel like front and with tram esque doors and weird ass windows
Dude..too much with the "kickin' it" stuff..and way too quick...
I was looking for synonyms for moving on and I thought of that one. I thought it was kind of funny.
Target Field also has commuter rail which you missed, as well as dedicated bike highways that reach the stadium.
Northstar does not serve all games so I didn't count it - www.metrotransit.org/target-field#:~:text=NEW!,for%20WEEKDAY%20evening%2Fnight%20games. The city has good bike facilities though!
Bummed to see Citi Field rated lower than Yankee Stadium. Both are connected to the Subway, regional rail, and buses. Been to both many times. Citi Field is also right next to a Tennis Stadium and Corona Park. Citi Field was built right next to Shea Stadium. When Shea was torn down, the area was turned into a parking lot. There have been various plans over the past 10 years to redevelop that space but things have been slow because that area is technically zoned as park space. #lgm
Yeah the less density is the main reason why i docked points. Citi is still one of the best in the US for transit accessibility.