My opinion on the Leica M3
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2017
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That was incredibly helpful. Thanks! I'd been considering getting an M3 someday, but I'll also look into the M2 now.
Im glad it was helpful. I find reviews give too much about things that are not always too important. I find myself loving the M2 for 35/50mm work.
First you’re wrong on several counts. 1.) please pronunce the brand correctly. 2.) it is possible to add an auxiliary finder in the cold shoe for the 35mm lens as well as other wide angle lenses.
3.) the camera’s rangefinder can easily be adjusted to focus to .7 meters
The M2 is a lovely camera and a little more flexible but it doesn’t have the same build quality of the M3. It was just too expensive for Leica to continue manufacturing cameras at the level of the M3. Even during the years of production of the M3 certain features were dropped as cost savings measures. Best regards and happy shooting.
Thanks for the review, Nicos! Have to mention one bit of info though: you can make M3's viewfinder focus closer than 1m!
Leica artificially limited close focusing to 1m because viewfinder parallax correction was not as precise with such close focusing. Later M3's simply need one gentle straightening of the lever that prevents the roller arm to fully extend. Older one's might be upgradable in service (actual viewfinder has to be modified).
Cheers!
On the M3 you can close focus with a 50mm summicron DR and the close focus attachment. Yes admittedly it's something you have to setup for but it's still possible to focus to as little as just under .5 of a meter.
+ahlads Yeah, I know about the 50mm DR. Also they can modify the m3 to focus down to 0.7m but they are all add ons you already have on the M2 and later models.
Mannnn, I knew I should have bought an M2!. lol. Great video Nico. I like these types of videos, very informative. Keep up the great work!.
Hahaha, I love my M2, not bad to own a M3 but it limits my way of shooting. And thanks for the support!
no problem nico
That's a fair review. I own a DS M3 and absolutely love it. This images are stunning at 11x14 FB paper. I own the 50mm DR, 35 Goggled. Both lenses are tack sharp.Todd
+ToddB987 Thanks Todd! I had a M3 DS and really enjoyed it. But having two kids I try to get up close and missed my 0.7m from my M2. But still loved the M3, just more of a M2 user. Still have to say the goggled lenses have a certain appeal to them that make me want one. So might lick up a M3 and a 35mm with goggles just for that and test it for a while. But yeah, prints look amazing. I usually print 8x10 and it made me love my M2 so much more when you wetprint.
Nice review! Leica's last forever, are fun to use and hold their value extremely well.
They really do.
The M3 is much more durable and better made and the frame lines are better in low light for sure. You can shoot a 35mm lens with an adjustment or you can use the bubble and even use a 24mm lens with a bubble. I also shoot with a 135mm lens all the time as well as a 90 and a 50 including a new Voigtlander 1.5 lens (pricey but wonderful) on my M3. I had an M2 but it wasn't nearly as functional as my M3 and I also have an M6, but I shoot a great deal of medium format on my Rolleiflex and Hasselblad as well. Plus the M3 is the sexiest of all.
+Adolph Kraut Yeah, the M3 is for sure built to last more than the original owners and if one shoots long lenses or wide apertures its the best bet. To me its the M2 for my own reasons but I would never not recommend the M3 if it suits the photographers needs. And in camera "porn" the Leica M3 sits in the top for sure.
Unquestionably the M3 is the best body for fifties, but if you use the entire viewfinder window beyond the fifty frame lines then essentially you will have a very close approximation for a 35 mm lens, easy.
+Bernie O'Dea Im sure it works. I do the same with 28mm lenses on my M2. ;)
Agreed... It all comes down to final product. I usually sling my Rolleiflex TLR, however, if I want to go light weight, then I go with M3.
+ToddB987 I wish I could take along with Rolleiflex. Every camera I have bought was faulty and I gave up. But they are sweet TLR's. My main setup is Leica M2. And when the kids stop a little maybe a RZ67. But its not a walk around camera. ;)
Going light with 6x6? Try a 1950s folder.
Great, as always. Slightly off topic: lost the metal ring in front of the viewfinder on my M2. Can't find anything on Ebay. Do you know anyone in the EU where I can ask for used spare parts?
+babarfyi thanks! I would ask at mayor stores that still repair. In madrid you have Fotocasion, Im sure they have spares. Let me know if you need help.
I use a M4-P with a Summitar 50mm f2 and an Elmar 35mm f3.5 Both lenses stop at 1m and at the moment I don't really mind that limit... Maybe one day if the cash is at hand to buy a recent lens I'll know what I am missing :p
I guess if one starts with 1 meter its normal, but I went from the M2 Summicron 35mm ASPH to the M3 and found it annoying. Not that it is bad, just not what Im used to. At the end they are just tools... ;)
Hola Nicos! Estaría muy bien que hicieras un review de la Zeiss Ikon zm. Acabo de conseguir una de segunda mano en ebay después de mucho pensar entre ésta camara y la leica m6. Creo que tienes la Zeiss de habertela visto en uno de tus videos y seguro que tienes buenos consejos de como utilizarla. Un saludo y gracias por tus videos.
Hola Miguel, pues justo estoy preparando un review mas decente de la Zeiss. Pronto la veras por aqui!
Thanks for another great video! Some day I’ll shoot one.
Hi Nico, is the M2 a single stroke camera?
Hi Mano, yeah. All M cameras except for the M3 double stroke are single. But you can advance in small strokes if you want. Doenst have to be one long one.
Have you shot with a m4-p? If so how does it compare to a m2?
I haven't but I think its similar to the M6 just with no meter (not sure). I never liked the cluttered viewfinder with more frame lines and love having a simple 3 operation camera that lets me focus on my pictures. Not that the M4-p or M6 are bad (actually they are great cameras) just not my style.
I see your point, but I don't think that this is such a big issue: This 35mm/f2.8 Summaron is great(www.kenrockwell.com/leica/35mm-f28.htm) - although it looks a little awkward when screwed of, this works nicely and looks good when mounted. The 0.3m difference in the focus-distance: Also not a big issue, don't you think? Never did any macro-shots with this camera anyway, so in reality I never really needed to get that close, especially not with a 35mm, which is all about soaking in all the scene and not focusing on some tiny detail. So to me these edge-cases that you describe do not really matter and I am pretty happy with my m3...
+Stefan Frank Off course its not a big deal and many M3 users would think like you. I just happen to use 35mm 95% of the time and a lot of close focus (i have kids) and like getting close to what they do. That is why in the title I said my opinion as it very personal. Thankfully we have both M2, M3 and more options. ;)
Nice quick review covering the salient differences between the M3 and M2. I have both, and I find the M2 more practical because of the 35mm option, and more aesthetically pleasing with its flush, no-frills design as opposed to the unnecessary raised details around the viewfinder and rangefinder windows on the M3. The manual-reset counter is a bit of a drag but not really a big deal as you say. Plus the M2 is a bit cheaper than the M3 (if not by much these days). But do us a favour: IT'S "LEYE-CA", NOT "LAY-CA"! ;^)
Had an M3 and sold it because i was using my M2 more often for the same reasons. I've recently picked up an M5 and absolutely love it. Easier loading and a light meter.
Nice to hear, I find the M3 is an amazing tool, but the M2 is my tool, 35mm framelines, clean viewfinder and 0,7 min focus distance is all I need. I have always wanted to try the M5, one day...
Gosh... I've have yet to commit to digital. They are a horrible investment and terrible value. Spend 3 grand on a decent kit, 6 month later, you can't give it away. These old cameras still hold their value and fetch a pretty good price if you need to sell.
+ToddB987 I would say digital makes sense if one makes money off it. If not its dumping money to have cameras sitting on shelves after a few years. All my older (film) gear is worth more today than what I paid. Not in any rush to sell but feels good to know that. Plus it makes wonderful memories each time I shoot a roll with them.
Digital cameras become obsolete and landfill
True, as many other electronics that are made to break after a very short lifespan.
When you’re ready to try digital, I can’t recommend the Fuji X100 line enough. They hold up in quality and hold their value well. They also have the most vintage form and function out there. :) Cheers!
Horrible investment? I make $100k a year with digital cameras as the tools of the trade 🤷♂️
Which layka should you get?
I have a few. My favorite is the M2. Or maybe you are asking for you?
Focus below 1 meter it’s best to use an SLR.
True, but I like rangefinders most times.
only 1/1000 sec..shutter speed on all their analog cameras. But very well built. im kinda interest in the black sheep M5 one.
I have never run into an issue on the 1/1000 but Im not a f1.4 guy so ISO 1600 and f16 1/1000 works for me. The M5 is an amazing camera, I still have to get one and use it for a few months.
Leyka?
Its how they say it in Spain, didnt know better when I made the video. But ever since I have learned my lesson. ;)
Back in the day the M2 was the professional choice.
I love mine today. I understand its not a camera for daily news guys but its still so good and solid.
No one shoots long lenses with a rangefinder camera
Max I have used was a 90mm and I wasn't too fond of it.
Am I the only one to find all this very informative but Leica makes all this very complicated..., no!? Must be just me.
+Mario Pierre I also find the differences complicated to understand between most brands. I dont know if its done on purpose or not but it doesnt help choosing. ;)
Thank you...everyone is talking about how much better the M3 is to the M2 like little schoolgirls, but it simple isn't. If you love 35mm lenses go for the M2 all the way. well - i am lucky to own a M2 with timer and frameline selector - i've been told there are versions without, that sucks, but if you can have one of these.... go for the M2. It is brilliant.
Mine doesnt have the self timer but I have never needed it either, the M2 is to me the best M out there. Maybe they lowered the quality when they made it, but its still around shooting daily, after 60 years.
@@NicosPhotographyShow true!
M3 with 35mm lens NO problem - just put a 35mm viewfinder in the cold shoe you DONT have to use a lens with goggles!!
The goggles for a 35? Just need a viewfinder
+Pencil Jockey you are very right! I totally forgot the viewfinder option. And the revolver style ones are very useful to use more lenses. Jut it still ads more steps to shot.
Nicos Photography Show True, but focus is more precise and that's the way I've used it forever so I'm used to it. If you zone focus it's much nicer using the external viewfinder. They're much brighter and clear usually.
+Pencil Jockey Yeah, the M3 rangefinder is the best of all M's. Im used to my M2 and thats why the M3 is not my favorite. Just personal preference.
Nicos Photography Show I like the M2 for it's design, it's a prettier camera than the M3.
+Pencil Jockey yeah, i have the button rewond and really like it.
watching you grind the lens putting it back on made me cringe, As far as using the Leica M3 with a 35 mm lens. If you use the whole viewfinder using the 35 mis really not issue. yes it's true that the Leica M3 is optimized for the 50mm but saying you can't use it with a 35 mm is simply false.
Well I hope I didnt say you "cant" use it, but that its not optimal. I use a 28mm with my M2 all the time, so I understand the eye framing out of the frame lines. Also the 1 meter limitation does bug me big time as I mostly shoot close up.
@@NicosPhotographyShow True enough. If close up photography is your thing the Leica M3 probably isn't for you . Unless you get the 50 Dual range of course and than its the best close range focusing Leica ever : ) Thanks for taking the tine to respond to my comment.
Eh I shoot my M3 with my 50 dr till 0.5 m
My god man I had to stop mid video, u kinda hate this stuff right? Try working on the attitude, film photography is an exciting and passionate world! U totally ruin it!
No worries man, all cool here.
NOT Leyca it's Lica [Leica] You are a photographer get it right dude... I can't watch this
Yeah, I take pictures. Doesn’t mean I know exactly how it’s pronounced. Also being from Spain most say it like I do, but once I got told it was wrong I changed my way of saying it. Happy Holidays!
@@NicosPhotographyShow No malice intended sorry. Merry Christmas
Non taken, I still make the mistake every now and then. But when I made this video I had never heard the right name from anyone. Always learning!