The idea of eating while being on a ride sounds weird and awful to me, but this actually looks pretty innovative. I don’t think I’d try it tho mainly because of the price lol. Seeing strange, extraordinary stuff like this is stuff I’ve only really seen you cover man. *THIS* is why your channel is extremely refreshing within the theme park RUclips community 👍
The only thing I don't like about this idea is knowing when you can leave the themed rooms to go to the bathroom LOL it sounds awesome but I have vague practical concerns.
It's really not, especially considering that some Disney restaurants are pricier. I'm certainly interested in trying Victoria and Alberts one day, but I believe it's $400 a person minimum or something along those lines.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Victoria and Alberts is really a must do. Went there in high school with a friend as crazy a foodie as I was, and since we were underage we were given water menus with varieties sourced from parts of the world with different acidity levels. Seven courses (five with options) and we swapped half of each of those so we could try as many flavors as we could. 150$ a person at the time I think but again that was without wine pairings or the additional 100$ caviar course. I imagine the base dinner is sadly much closer to the price you mentioned now. Still, for 3 hours of service and a take-home personalized dated menu I thought it was well worth it, not to mention the funny looks we got on the monorail to the floridian, being dressed in full formal wear.
The individual seating for a trackless ride reminds me of the Universal patent for a ride that starts out with typical 4 X 4 seating and then the seats eventually break apart and go their separate ways.
I don't think it's been running recently but Disney used to host the Imaginations competition. I remember a design concept for a restaurant, I think it was called Bloom, that while not moving had umbrellas that would come down and envelope the table transforming the space. Hard to find past submissions now, but that competition was a great place was a great look into theme designed of many types (hotels, public spaces, restaurants, ect)
I've wanted something like this to exist for so long. As a kid I imagined it as a dessert experience. The rooms included an ice cream room which was designed to look like a snowy landscape, a cotton candy room where you could watch it being made, a cupcake decorating room, a soda tasting room, a gingerbread house room, a room where the ride vehicles arranged themselves into a movie theater and you were given popcorn while watching a short movie, a room that was designed to look like everything was made of candy and the ride would take you through a pathway where you were allowed to grab candy off of trees and bushes, etc. Honestly I would still like to go on a ride like this lol
Yesterday i was there and i can say it was the most amazing dining eperience in my life. It was crazy how the flooting chair itself was part of the story and how good the journey was.
I did the experience recently and it’s the greatest theme park experience I’ve ever done. The food is vastly under valued and the way the trackless ride system is integrated is incredibly clever and subtle. The food was delicious, the alcohol servings are copious and the staff top notch. This isn’t about theming, it’s about creating an atmosphere and the food taking centre stage. There are some surprises along the way, too! This is another example of how Europa is the world’s greatest resort when it comes to value, experience and efficiency. Bravo Thomas Mack!
A great video as always, I'd never heard of this attraction before but it sounds intriguing. I visited Phantasialand this year and hope to get to Europa at some point (though travel routes are a bit more complicated) If you are interested in talking about another unique dark ride (though it's no longer around) maybe look at Hob's Pit. It was a strangely adult horror dark ride made in an otherwise family focused park in the UK. I never got to ride it unfortunately but the idea of such a horror focused ride was interesting, you don't see much of that outside of haunted houses and those are usually a bit more soft around the edges.
I hadn't heard of it before and it does seem like a really intriguing idea. However, on an initial search, most video on it is too dark to really make out much. It's a good idea, but I'm not sure if it will translate visually to video. I've put it on my idea list (and I'll provide credit to you for suggesting it if a video ever gets made), but I'm not sure if a video like that could really work.
@@PoseidonEntertainment well while this video was interesting I'm going to guess that given the nature of this restaurant thing you are probably expected to visit the bathroom before you are boarded onto the moving seats
That’s crazy! Seems slow enough not to effect your stomach. The novelty is something completely different but the price point is a bit high but I can understand why.
Interesting concept - in a way, it reminds me of a combo of food hall and dinner theatre, where instead of actors and sets, it is more culinary staging and sets
Looking at this, I love the concept and I think there's massive down market potential. Not to diminish this certainly worthy experience in the least but I'm envisioning something family-oriented targeting a similar a demographic to the Rainforest Cafe. I certainly would hope for theming and food better than the Rainforest Cafe chain but targeting a similar demographic of middle to upper middle class families on vacation wanting something more experiential than just dinner. There's huge potential here and I'm excited for what the future may hold.
You make a good point and I never really thought about it in those terms. While Eatrenalin is cool, I think it works more as a proof of concept. A more overtly, highly themed experience would be awesome down the line as well.
This really does look like one of the better, innovative restaurant ideas and worth the price of admission compared to some other "gimmicky" restaurants (remember that Michelin place that served foam in a plaster cast of the chef's mouth?)
@@PoseidonEntertainment I tried to post a link but I think RUclips doesn't like that. But if you google "bad Michelin review" it should be one of the top results. It's a very popular story and it's one of those tales that gets crazier the longer it goes on. It's the kind of thing you want to see adapted into a movie.
Great video once again. Despite its price and me not being much of a foodie I do think I'm going to give it a go when I next get to visit Europa Park as I'm fascinated by the concept. I do think it's a perfect example of the kind of innovation that Europa Park excels best at due to the Mack ownership.
I believe that much of it is seafood focused as well. I'm definitely picky when it comes to seafood, but I would definitely be willing to try whatever they bring to the table (pun intended I suppose).
Thanks for introducing this unique restaurant concept, I hadn't heard of it, and probably wouldn't have otherwise. I think Las Vegas would be a perfect launch city in the US. Not only for the target demographic (there are plenty of frequent visitors and even one-off visitors who want to enjoy a unique and elevated experience), but for all of the entertainment industry scouts who would visit it, and possibly open talks to host it around the country (and obviously comp the experience on their expense reports 😀)
One of my "if I had infinite monies" ideas is to turn the Astrodome into a dark ride concert venue, with a restaurants being a component. You can look at the Japanese group Perfume and their supporting tech group art collective Rhizomatics (it makes sense when you see their shows, which you should check out because they are amazing) to get a idea of what I think would work. Think the MSG Sphere they are building in Vegas, but that's just the main show floor and you are in trackless dark ride cars that weave in and out of the complex.
so my question would be, what if the "rider" needs to use the rest room? is there a button that will take them to one and then com back to their place? or will they have to get up and hope they know were to go, even if the seat has moved?
I should make an important note that Europa Park is no stranger to revolutionary dining experiences. They opened Food Loop, after all - the technology of which STILL hasn't left Europe. If it didn't cost so much (and wasn't inconveniently located for me), I'd be all over this experience.
The Macks (who own EP) didn’t create food loop. Confusingly enough - the concept was created by a company called HeineMack - and there are ones outside Europe in Abu Dhabi and Kuwait.
@@nickhutson Huh, didn't know that. Still doesn't change my point that it's weird that America doesn't have one, especially with places like Cedar Point where it'd fit in perfectly. But yeah, I did say "open" instead of "created." I had a hunch that it wasn't made in-house by Mack, but they were the ones who opened the restaurant.
I’d love to try something like this. If Disney did this they’d probably make the tables seat 4-6 and each room would be for different parts of the meal starting with the amuse buche and ending with dessert. Of course the price would go up depending on the kind of meal being booked since you’d need to pick your menu ahead of time.
it's so cool to hear about this! i've never considered using the trackless dark ride system for experiences like this- it makes me really wonder what could be done if more people not thinking about the standard linear dark ride thought about ways to utilize it
The only thing of this concept I DO NOT LIKE is the individual seats because rarely do people enjoy dining out by themselves and this seems like it would be much better if the seats were in pairs to enjoy with someone but this looks very intriguing.
It's my understanding that whoever you're with will generally stay pretty close to you. I'm not sure how that works, but I don't think you'll be sent to the other side of a room from them.
I was thinking like this. Maybe it's just because I'm not really a theme park sort of person, but I feel like combining dining with this sort of "ride" takes away from part of the very human/intimate element dining can have.
Great video! This is an interesting concept but I have so many questions about this new trackless vehicles up-scale dining experience. For example will I have to time my eating to the duration of the ride, or what happens if I get back to the station not having finished my food and most importantly what happens if I need to urinate while having my dinner; can I get up and go to the toilet. Also will my podium still be where I left it or will I have to walk along the track to find it again?
I do know that for patrons who need the bathroom, they'll be escorted out of the track by an employee. While each room seems to serve multiple plates, none of the portion sizes seem that large from what other video I was able to find. I don't anticipating not finishing the food being a problem. I also believe that the food is disposed of before moving on to the next room, so even if you didn't want to finish it, you wouldn't have to take it with you.
Having the ride be a restaurant doesn't solve the problem you were originally complaining about. These tables are still moving through the rooms in a very linear route.
Thank you for sharing this! I love that it's a unique idea and new use for an underutilized technology. I wish they showed more because the umami room and the fact that it's 90min experience makes me think if all they are using the ride system for is moving you from room to room, wouldn't it be easier (and cheaper because you could fit more people) to just have a dining room that transforms? I kinda got flashbacks to whole families using motor scooters at theme parks instead of walking watching some of the footage (aka Wall-E vibes).
I do think that using vehicles is very much a novelty. Still, I think they may also be more involved than I may know. I recall seeing a patent for some sort of robotic arm that delivers food in a certain room. I'm not sure if that's actually part of the experience or if it is, how it plays into things. While I agree that it does tend to just look like a novelty, the ride vehicles may be essential to the experience in aspects we don't yet know about.
While I don’t believe it would’ve been trackless, I did see this concept before. It was called ‘Dino Quizine,’ and in addition to the Dinosaur theming, the concept also included an interactive quiz element. Here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/dK5CaqcPoSw/видео.html
It’s an interesting idea but to be honest it sounds like a logistical nightmare. A big question I have is whether it works like a traditional dark ride where the entire ride system stops if someone gets out of their seat or if people are allowed to leave their seat as they please like a normal restaurant (such as to go to the bathroom). The former seems highly restrictive for the type of experience this is trying to be but the latter sounds like a nightmare as guests get in the way of other ride vehicles.
this sounds like so much fun! my only worry with limiting video experience would be that the experience is actually lame OR lame in every other part of it so they only want people releasing the cool parts! i will probably not be able to go to this thing since im not in the area, but i would love to see what the full ride actually is
If they ever decide to upgrade the Be Our Guest restaurant in WDW or make a better version somewhere else, this layout could make it something genuinely incredible. I remember the first time I was entering that restaurant, and the enterance was so well-themed I legitimately expected to see ride vehicles inside.
I like your suggestion with Orlando. Living in Vegas for 6 years and then visiting Orlando I noticed they brought alot of the same things for entertainment and dining. They have Area 15 in Vegas and now there are plans to add it to the Orlando area as well.
I've been wondering what's happening with that. I believe they stated they wanted a 2024 opening for Area 15, but there has been absolutely no sight work or construction at all. I'm inclined to think that the project is delayed or cancelled.
Singapore has a cable car dining experience that's similar in concept, but I can't see this idea being practical in the long run. What happens if you have to go to the restroom in the middle of the meal? How do messes on the ride vehicle get cleaned up during operating hours? How would emergency services get to patrons if there were a medical issue? (The Etrenalin concept art of the room layout looks like it would be a nightmare for that scenario.) A lot can go wrong when you're trying to combine food with moving vehicles. I'm not discounting the idea, but it doesn't seem like it would appeal to many people outside of those that enjoy drive-through dining.
The vehicles seem to be parked in each location for an extended period of time. If patrons need to use the restroom, then they're escorted out of the ride track by an attendant and I assume that anyone who needs medical services should be easily accessible. With such small portion sizes and a more up-scale clientele, I don't really anticipate any significant messes happening either. The vehicles themselves also don't move as people are eating. They just simply take people from location to location. I think the concept works because it's adults who are a bit more conscious of their surroundings then the average theme park guest.
Combining food and a ride seems like a really bad idea. Not everyone eats at the same pace. Plus some people might get motion sickness or need to use the restroom. Not to mention all the issues where alcohol is involved. It sounds neat but doesn't look very practical.
The spills and need to use the restroom makes this concept a bit problematic. The first time someone vomits all over the floor will take out the ride until the mess and smells can be removed. The accumulated food scraps gumming up the wheels will make this a maintenance challenge. The reason why Disney uses trackless vehicles is that they are less expensive than the alternative such as Omnimover. These trackless systems are much cheaper and easier to maintain and also handle disabled guests much easier (the entire ride loop doesn’t need to stop to load unload a wheelchair).
I'm not anticipating that these will be problems though. If someone needs the restroom, the procedure is for an employee to escort whichever person needs to go. It's a slow moving ride with I'm sure good maintenance and cleanliness standards for the building. I don't see food falling on the floor as a huge problem.
I believe that each room serves multiple plates. It's difficult to really get a feel for what exactly this entails, but I believe there's more food than may initially appear.
For those worried about motion sickness... Apparantly the ride is so smooth that you dont notice the movement. I havent experienced it myself but thats what ive heard from reviews
i'd love to try this but how is Eatrenalin the name they landed on? you're not gonna experience any adrenalin & it's a clunky-ass portmanteau besides. Eatrenalin sounds like there's gonna be a launch section between courses
This is actually really, really cheap for what it is. I hope they can make it more wheelchair-friendly in the future similar to how a lot of trackless rides have vehicles where a wheelchair can roll into.
Thanks for the video on this! I have never heard about this. I think if they brought this to Tokyo it would do well but eventually fizzle out. Ever hear about ORBI the BBC/SEGA project that went, well no where? I think there is one location still open in Yokohama.
@@PoseidonEntertainment You do have a point there. I've been to a couple. One novel approach I've seen a company buys the rights to an ip and has a place to serve food but every two-three months they'll shift the theme and the food. But there are places like the Kawaii restaurant and Robot restaurant (that is still closed right now) that do populate the more pleasure areas of the cities. My favorite, that I've done is the lockup, that claims to be the scariest restaurant chain in Japan. The servers pop in and scare you and the food is appropriately themed, I really liked the takoyaki (octopus dumpling) russian roullette, six balls 5 filled with octopus one with wasabi. A word to the wise, if you are ever forced to play this game, fake that you got the wasabi. It's funny to see the reaction of the people who do get it. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
I love this idea but if it came to any of the FL parks it would easily be 2k a plate. In the late 90's I would just go to Tomorrowland, get a slice of pizza and a surge slushee from the food stands under the Astro Orbitor, and walk on the people mover until I was done. I don't know if people now know but at the time that ride was always walk on, the operators would look at me strange but id say I have napkins and will be careful and often would ride 2-3 times without getting off because no one was waiting. It was the best lunch spot. I was always respectful, cleaned and took all of my trash with me. I just want that experience again and know it will never happen.
I'm surprised they let you do that, but it sounds like a great idea. If I recall correctly, I believe it was Pete Werner from The DIS that joked about adding a Peoplemover train with tables for an upcharge dining experience.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I would have paid it was a lovely time! Now though, it would take an hour to get through the line and be a less magical experience.
The moving seating seems a gimmick. The Eatrenalin ride system just cuts out the walking from room to room. You don’t need a ride system to customize a guest’s experience. Magic Castle Hollywood has multiple rooms where guests go to dine, drink and experience different magic acts. Each room has a different aesthetic and magician. The guests can choose which order of room to visit, all around the castle.
That honestly looks super bland (If you’ll pardon the pun). It really just like a normal sterile middle of the road fine dining type restaurant with some mediocre fake rocks and projection screens. Maybe it’s just me not being into “fancy” stuff, but the combination of the high end food items and the sensations of moving around in your chair seems very off-putting, to the point where the clash might result in neither aspect being enjoyable. It’s creative and unique to be sure, but I don’t think it’s actually a good idea. It’s pretty much just Rainforest Cafe if it was made by Wolfgang Puck.
I'm going to have to disagree. I think that City Walk needs more to do, but I don't think that this makes sense with Universal's clientele. They skew younger and are pursuing a more thrilling experience. I'm not sure if there's demand for something like this on a sustainable scale. That's why I thought placing it on I-Drive near the Convention Center made the most sense. There's a lot of wealthy people visiting that area frequently and they would be the target demographic.
There will come a day when every ride is trackless and old timers like me will still be amazed at free roaming, autonomous ride vehicles as a technology. 😊
Disney should’ve made an Eatrenalin style Ratatouille ride instead of screens, that would make it an incredible masterpiece, and it can stop people from hating Walt Disney Studios!
There are some really cool ideas with the trackless vehicles, etc, but it's quite expensive for something that appears to rely heavily on the novelty of eating on the vehicles. There's also the fact that they don't disclose what foods are included, which is... concerning, to say the least. If one comes to Vegas or anywhere in the US, I'd probably be willing to spend the money on the experience just to see what it entails, but at the moment it just seems like a really cool idea that's pushing the boundaries of what ride technology can do. And I'm absolutely not averse to that, either. I want to see them push the envelope as hard as they can and create incredible new experiences with this technology.
I don't really agree that it's overpriced. If Disney can have similarly priced up-scale dining experiences and have no issue filling their tables, I actually perceive this as the better value. It's adding that ride and theming element on top of the dining experience.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I absolutely agree when compared to, say, a Disney restaurant. I'm looking at the overall package on its own merit, and I think I can only really objectively judge it if I ride it. I'm generally fairly skeptical of things that are as pretentious as a "tasting room" or dining sold as "a sensory experience". In all fairness, though, I've never actually experienced one, and they sell well, so maybe there's something to it that I just don't see from the outside.
As a person who experienced this multisensory restaurant (what they call it), it's no darkride. Don't compare it with a themepark ride. It's not located in the themepark but next to one of the resort hotels, Hotel Kronasar. Actually, next to this restaurant is a full 20 min VR experience, walking around in a virtual world. I can see comments about restraints. Why restraints? In a extremely slow moving vehicle, like 1 to 1,5 MPH? They ask you not to stand up, enough said for us Europeans. We just listen. If you have to go tot the bathroom they escort you when the seats are stopped and escort you back to your seat. How do they restock ? This restaurant is formed in a circle pattern and restocking is done when there are no patrons in the room. So you wil never se someone walking around with an ice buket, wich we hardly use in Europe because all cold drinks are cooled. No need for a full glass of ice. The food is extremely upscale with 2 different menu's Red (meat & fish) en Green (vegetarian) and they can also meet dietary preferences/vegan. And i can see comments about the rollercoaster restaurant in Alton Towers. Actually, this concept comes from Europapark. And don't forget, Europapark is also the only Themepark resort with an onsite 2 star Michelin restaurant, Ammolite, situated in the Bell Rock hotel.
Goddamn!! First of all great video and I love all of your content. Second, that restaurant looks amazing! I live in Orlando and I really hope we get an experience like this here.
I love this! It doesn’t seem like $200 is too bad a price, but probably $25 a glass of adult beverage. Only thing…..this is a picky eater’s nightmare. I can see myself having to get Wendy’s after.
This is probably that 'awkward teenage' stage of this style of dining. Its interesting but a little bit unnecessary imo. I can totally imagine the whole 'dinner and a show' type thing existing further down the line with more abundant themeing and a good story. Maybe even at Disney. I imagine that the Beauty and the Beast ride at Tokyo disneyland could be duplicated in other parks as a dining experience with a musical show and moving dining vehicles. A POTC dining show could also be interesting with diners on board boats.
Those do sound like really interesting ideas. I agree in general though. This very much seems like a proof of concept. It'll be interesting to see if they expand to other cities.
Relating to this, would the Netflix original Somebody Feed Phil attraction do well with this concept? Would be pretty cool if the foods rotated through each ride being an episode.
To put this in a universal or Disney park domestically they would have to have the respective attractions and food and beverage cast cooperate. A food and beverage cast member wouldn’t be able to run out on the ride path, there would need to be platforms to serve from. If they must walk out on the path, they’ll need to work with ride operators to eliminate motion. But hey Walt once said if you can dream it you can do it and he would want such a thing in his parks like he did with the monorail and Matterhorn for example
I don't think either of them would adopt this, nor would I really want them to. If Eatrenalin can work as a brand by itself and expand to multiple cities, I think that's probably the best course for an idea like this.
Hm sounds interesting, but I immediately thought of food, glass with drinks falling on the floor.. This was before I saw the actual footage, and I think you don't move when you consume something. I do not know if I think it's a good interesting though, it's not something that excites me personally. To me it feels like one big gimmick, so the food has to be amazing for this to last. Unless the ride part actually brings something unique to the table (he he he), this is basically just being driven like a baby in a pram to a table :P But this is my cynical first reaction, I won't knock it till I try it. It is interesting as a concept.. but hmm. I don't know..
I think it's up-scale dining first, a ride second. I suppose it's the novelty of using a ride vehicle to move from room to room, working as a proof of concept.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Yea it's intriguing for sure. It's like the novelty of the rollercoaster restaurants where your (fast)food is delivered to your table by a little cart on a track. It's fun to experience the mechanics of it all.
Unrelated, but it also reminds me on the chair on rails in the Casper movie - I really wanted that chair! Although as a kid I was worried about the shaving razors :D
Comment for the algorithm. Also, this looks very interesting. I can picture a DIsney Buffet using this to shuttle guests to the food stations, finally a ride based on the Wall-E ip.
Honestly, I can see this working for $100 if it were dialed down and not involving so many course meals. It also sounds like a way to get easy profits too since it would be like eating at an expensive restaurant while also getting a show attached to that too. I’m just wondering who would make that happen first in the states. Disney seems the most obvious (and they do have a dark ride featuring a cooking rat already, so why not expand on that further as a second experience?) but really if done right, this could be a neat project to see unfold in the future.
Monsieur Paul charges $195 a person and they don't seem to have an issue getting people into the doors. I definitely think there's demand for something like this.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Apologies for the low-ball estimate. I can see the demand for sure for something as unique and special like this, but I guess I wasn't sure what would be seen as a fair price. So if $195 has been working well, then all the more power to them. Honestly, I can't wait to see this or similar places open up.
It would be neat to take the current technology and use it for a theatre experience. Like an immersive theatre experience or a magic show with different show rooms. It will be a fine tune version of Ellen's Energy adventure with the smaller cars and without Ellen, Energy, or Adventure.
I think I can see the appeal in that. Still, something similar to the Carousel of Progress would probably work in bringing forth that experience as well.
Nah they wouldn't and I can't say that I would trust them to make it interesting either. Maybe when Disney gets more creative leadership in the future, but definitely not now.
@@PoseidonEntertainment honestly, if they converted Galactic Starcruiser into a walkthrough experience with a trackless ride as the dining portion (all themed to original trilogy of course), they could probably recoup a ton of money. People would throw money to be able to ride in a little pod racer from the Tattooine room to Hoth etc.
I Drive would be good, but knowing city zoning and permitting, they'd put it right there on I Drive near Hawaiian or Destination intersection. A high end place will fit in perfectly there to let tourists choose from fine dining experience to Red lobster to McD's :P
I was just being facetious that's what city gov't would do. But, you're right that it wouldn't even get to O-town. Or, if it did, it would be done half right. Good location, insufficient foot print like Dave and Busters. The D&B on I Drive is too small and such a let down compared to one in Jacksonville.
I don't know about this. An hour and a half small tastes food tour for $200 on top of getting into the park. Not for me. The vehicles don't look to have restraints which means people might get up since it's so slow. Which food service profits mainly on high turn over and the building (what little we see) I'm wondering where the kitchen in and how food gets where. Like if one room runs out of something, how is it restocked. The rooms looked jammed together like escape rooms, no staff hallways or areas to move around and not be in the path of "ride" vehicles ( I know, not important. But if someone walks in with buckets of ice and dumps them in the drinks area, it's not an "experience") it's a cute idea but will it last long? I had high tea once, very fancy, but honestly ( maybe it's me) eating is not an experience on the same level as a ride or show and being so secretive is a turn off for how much you are paying, it's a rich experience I'll never have. Do you think this concept could stand alone outside of a theme park? Theme entertainment dining seems to be dying or at least not expanding. Charles Entertainment Cheese, has no shows, Rainforest Cafe is ...🤷🏻♀️ I don't know. I heard of a rollercoaster themed dining in Alton Towers (I believe, could be wrong) where the food is delivered by coaster track thru the restaurant that seemed fun, but how sustainable is a system that you have the experience probably only once? Definitely not twice in one day.
Weird question but was that giant oyster-looking dish at 5:33 blurred out in the original footage or was this a decision for folks grossed out by eating mollusks?
To clarify, my issue isn't with the idea of linearity in general. Rather, it's with trackless dark rides not using space effectively. For example, attractions such as Runaway Railway, Ratatouille and Rise of the Resistance could have been tracked and very little would have changed. In contrast, we see trackless vehicles in Beauty and the Beast really push attraction design forward in how they change conventional methods of story telling in rides. They utilize a smaller footprint by backtracking and dancing in large rooms, allowing scenes to play out over the course of a few minutes in a way that has previously been impossible with tracked rides. While not always the right choice, it has certainly opened the door for a different type of experience using this technology. In the same way that it's impossible to experience entire musical numbers from Beauty and the Beast with a tracked ride system, so too would something like Eatrenalin be impossible without the trackless vehicles.
This looks amazing! But I'm a picky eater, so I wouldn't enjoy it. But It it was more like I could order from a menu like any "normal" restaurant and then be taken on the "ride" while I'm served drinks, then the appetizer, then the main course, then the dessert, that would be awesome!
The idea of eating while being on a ride sounds weird and awful to me, but this actually looks pretty innovative. I don’t think I’d try it tho mainly because of the price lol. Seeing strange, extraordinary stuff like this is stuff I’ve only really seen you cover man. *THIS* is why your channel is extremely refreshing within the theme park RUclips community 👍
Completely agree with this! Never heard about this before!
@@Yukendoit yoooo Yukendoit love your content man 👍
@@NinthShinigami I barely make it but I enjoy making it.
I don't think you're actually moving while you eat. It seems like the ride aspect is only used to move you from room to room
@@JesusDoesntLoveU actually in some rooms you are moving while you enjoy the food. But the movement is VERY gentle and slow.
The only thing I don't like about this idea is knowing when you can leave the themed rooms to go to the bathroom LOL it sounds awesome but I have vague practical concerns.
You can go to the bathroom at any time. Just tell your waiter and he/she will get you there and then bring you back to your chair.
For the experience and the food, $195 is actually not too bad
It’s one off the once in a life time experience
It's really not, especially considering that some Disney restaurants are pricier. I'm certainly interested in trying Victoria and Alberts one day, but I believe it's $400 a person minimum or something along those lines.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Victoria and Alberts is really a must do. Went there in high school with a friend as crazy a foodie as I was, and since we were underage we were given water menus with varieties sourced from parts of the world with different acidity levels. Seven courses (five with options) and we swapped half of each of those so we could try as many flavors as we could. 150$ a person at the time I think but again that was without wine pairings or the additional 100$ caviar course. I imagine the base dinner is sadly much closer to the price you mentioned now. Still, for 3 hours of service and a take-home personalized dated menu I thought it was well worth it, not to mention the funny looks we got on the monorail to the floridian, being dressed in full formal wear.
A bare minimum meal nowadays runs $25. An upscale 90 experience for $200 is a steal.
I fully agree since drinks are included as well I believe they is like 6 different ones
The individual seating for a trackless ride reminds me of the Universal patent for a ride that starts out with typical 4 X 4 seating and then the seats eventually break apart and go their separate ways.
I don't recall hearing about that. It's certainly an interesting concept.
@@PoseidonEntertainment check out Park Stop Presents’ Digging Documents series. They had one a few months ago about that patent.
Imagine if they’d used that for the avengers ride instead of giving up and making it a simulator
It will definitely do well in Las Vegas. I can imagine the Wynn or the Venetian building one.
I'd like to see what Japan could do with this idea too. There's already a Cup Noodle ride, so maybe this could be the next thing
As much as I would like to see it come to Orlando, Vegas is definitely a better fit.
I don't think it's been running recently but Disney used to host the Imaginations competition. I remember a design concept for a restaurant, I think it was called Bloom, that while not moving had umbrellas that would come down and envelope the table transforming the space. Hard to find past submissions now, but that competition was a great place was a great look into theme designed of many types (hotels, public spaces, restaurants, ect)
I vaguely remember something like that. Wasn't it hosted by Imagineers and brought in teams of students to design attractions?
I've wanted something like this to exist for so long. As a kid I imagined it as a dessert experience. The rooms included an ice cream room which was designed to look like a snowy landscape, a cotton candy room where you could watch it being made, a cupcake decorating room, a soda tasting room, a gingerbread house room, a room where the ride vehicles arranged themselves into a movie theater and you were given popcorn while watching a short movie, a room that was designed to look like everything was made of candy and the ride would take you through a pathway where you were allowed to grab candy off of trees and bushes, etc.
Honestly I would still like to go on a ride like this lol
I would love that ride!
If it ever comes to fruition, please let me be one of the first! 😊
im going to see if i can take this kind of idea incase i mystically obtain 20+mil
Yesterday i was there and i can say it was the most amazing dining eperience in my life. It was crazy how the flooting chair itself was part of the story and how good the journey was.
did u left hungry
@@juarezm.6737 no it was perfect
I did the experience recently and it’s the greatest theme park experience I’ve ever done. The food is vastly under valued and the way the trackless ride system is integrated is incredibly clever and subtle. The food was delicious, the alcohol servings are copious and the staff top notch. This isn’t about theming, it’s about creating an atmosphere and the food taking centre stage. There are some surprises along the way, too!
This is another example of how Europa is the world’s greatest resort when it comes to value, experience and efficiency.
Bravo Thomas Mack!
A great video as always, I'd never heard of this attraction before but it sounds intriguing. I visited Phantasialand this year and hope to get to Europa at some point (though travel routes are a bit more complicated)
If you are interested in talking about another unique dark ride (though it's no longer around) maybe look at Hob's Pit. It was a strangely adult horror dark ride made in an otherwise family focused park in the UK. I never got to ride it unfortunately but the idea of such a horror focused ride was interesting, you don't see much of that outside of haunted houses and those are usually a bit more soft around the edges.
I hadn't heard of it before and it does seem like a really intriguing idea. However, on an initial search, most video on it is too dark to really make out much. It's a good idea, but I'm not sure if it will translate visually to video. I've put it on my idea list (and I'll provide credit to you for suggesting it if a video ever gets made), but I'm not sure if a video like that could really work.
@@PoseidonEntertainment No problem, thank you for considering the suggestion. Looking forward to whatever you have planned either way.
@@PoseidonEntertainment well while this video was interesting I'm going to guess that given the nature of this restaurant thing you are probably expected to visit the bathroom before you are boarded onto the moving seats
That’s crazy! Seems slow enough not to effect your stomach. The novelty is something completely different but the price point is a bit high but I can understand why.
Interesting concept - in a way, it reminds me of a combo of food hall and dinner theatre, where instead of actors and sets, it is more culinary staging and sets
Looking at this, I love the concept and I think there's massive down market potential. Not to diminish this certainly worthy experience in the least but I'm envisioning something family-oriented targeting a similar a demographic to the Rainforest Cafe. I certainly would hope for theming and food better than the Rainforest Cafe chain but targeting a similar demographic of middle to upper middle class families on vacation wanting something more experiential than just dinner. There's huge potential here and I'm excited for what the future may hold.
You make a good point and I never really thought about it in those terms. While Eatrenalin is cool, I think it works more as a proof of concept. A more overtly, highly themed experience would be awesome down the line as well.
I'm so fascinated by the euro parks they really do come up with some really interesting ride ideas
I definitely agree. I'm tired of Disney and Universal dominating the conversation when there are so many other cool things out there.
This really does look like one of the better, innovative restaurant ideas and worth the price of admission compared to some other "gimmicky" restaurants (remember that Michelin place that served foam in a plaster cast of the chef's mouth?)
I hadn't heard of that? Intriguing though.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I tried to post a link but I think RUclips doesn't like that. But if you google "bad Michelin review" it should be one of the top results. It's a very popular story and it's one of those tales that gets crazier the longer it goes on. It's the kind of thing you want to see adapted into a movie.
Great video once again. Despite its price and me not being much of a foodie I do think I'm going to give it a go when I next get to visit Europa Park as I'm fascinated by the concept. I do think it's a perfect example of the kind of innovation that Europa Park excels best at due to the Mack ownership.
I believe that much of it is seafood focused as well. I'm definitely picky when it comes to seafood, but I would definitely be willing to try whatever they bring to the table (pun intended I suppose).
@@PoseidonEntertainment Oh I'm the same when it comes to seafood! Maybe I'd pick the vegetarian menu to play it safe 😅
Thanks for introducing this unique restaurant concept, I hadn't heard of it, and probably wouldn't have otherwise. I think Las Vegas would be a perfect launch city in the US. Not only for the target demographic (there are plenty of frequent visitors and even one-off visitors who want to enjoy a unique and elevated experience), but for all of the entertainment industry scouts who would visit it, and possibly open talks to host it around the country (and obviously comp the experience on their expense reports 😀)
One of my "if I had infinite monies" ideas is to turn the Astrodome into a dark ride concert venue, with a restaurants being a component. You can look at the Japanese group Perfume and their supporting tech group art collective Rhizomatics (it makes sense when you see their shows, which you should check out because they are amazing) to get a idea of what I think would work. Think the MSG Sphere they are building in Vegas, but that's just the main show floor and you are in trackless dark ride cars that weave in and out of the complex.
so my question would be, what if the "rider" needs to use the rest room? is there a button that will take them to one and then com back to their place? or will they have to get up and hope they know were to go, even if the seat has moved?
That’s actually really funny. Oh there goes Bob to the bathroom again!
I should make an important note that Europa Park is no stranger to revolutionary dining experiences. They opened Food Loop, after all - the technology of which STILL hasn't left Europe.
If it didn't cost so much (and wasn't inconveniently located for me), I'd be all over this experience.
I actually wasn't aware that Mack introduced the concept. I knew there was a version at Alton Towers but I didn't know Mack was involved.
The Macks (who own EP) didn’t create food loop. Confusingly enough - the concept was created by a company called HeineMack - and there are ones outside Europe in Abu Dhabi and Kuwait.
@@nickhutson Huh, didn't know that. Still doesn't change my point that it's weird that America doesn't have one, especially with places like Cedar Point where it'd fit in perfectly.
But yeah, I did say "open" instead of "created." I had a hunch that it wasn't made in-house by Mack, but they were the ones who opened the restaurant.
After watching the Menu, seeing restaurants like this feels weird....
Did I just give Disney an idea?
This is exactly what I was thinking. I can’t go no where after watching Menu lol. This ride restaurant would have me in tears.
I’d love to try something like this. If Disney did this they’d probably make the tables seat 4-6 and each room would be for different parts of the meal starting with the amuse buche and ending with dessert. Of course the price would go up depending on the kind of meal being booked since you’d need to pick your menu ahead of time.
If Disney did something like this, it’ll probably be like Be Our Guest. Fun theming and atmosphere, but way too expensive.
So it is an automated mobility scooter scheduled to make sure that nobody can stay and enjoy something for too long.
it's so cool to hear about this! i've never considered using the trackless dark ride system for experiences like this- it makes me really wonder what could be done if more people not thinking about the standard linear dark ride thought about ways to utilize it
The only thing of this concept I DO NOT LIKE is the individual seats because rarely do people enjoy dining out by themselves and this seems like it would be much better if the seats were in pairs to enjoy with someone but this looks very intriguing.
It's my understanding that whoever you're with will generally stay pretty close to you. I'm not sure how that works, but I don't think you'll be sent to the other side of a room from them.
I was thinking like this. Maybe it's just because I'm not really a theme park sort of person, but I feel like combining dining with this sort of "ride" takes away from part of the very human/intimate element dining can have.
After seeing “the menu,” I have no intention of ever going to a place like this.
I don't know. Eating at a movie theater while watching a movie? Sure.
But eating while on a ride? No. Especially if you're prone to motion sickness.
A restaurant ride would be hell if you get motion sickness.
I love that opening song on the logo!
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This is new reason #30 why I need to visit Europa Park. Seriously, I need to plan a trip to Germany.
Great video! This is an interesting concept but I have so many questions about this new trackless vehicles up-scale dining experience. For example will I have to time my eating to the duration of the ride, or what happens if I get back to the station not having finished my food and most importantly what happens if I need to urinate while having my dinner; can I get up and go to the toilet. Also will my podium still be where I left it or will I have to walk along the track to find it again?
I do know that for patrons who need the bathroom, they'll be escorted out of the track by an employee. While each room seems to serve multiple plates, none of the portion sizes seem that large from what other video I was able to find. I don't anticipating not finishing the food being a problem. I also believe that the food is disposed of before moving on to the next room, so even if you didn't want to finish it, you wouldn't have to take it with you.
Having the ride be a restaurant doesn't solve the problem you were originally complaining about. These tables are still moving through the rooms in a very linear route.
Thank you for sharing this! I love that it's a unique idea and new use for an underutilized technology. I wish they showed more because the umami room and the fact that it's 90min experience makes me think if all they are using the ride system for is moving you from room to room, wouldn't it be easier (and cheaper because you could fit more people) to just have a dining room that transforms? I kinda got flashbacks to whole families using motor scooters at theme parks instead of walking watching some of the footage (aka Wall-E vibes).
I do think that using vehicles is very much a novelty. Still, I think they may also be more involved than I may know. I recall seeing a patent for some sort of robotic arm that delivers food in a certain room. I'm not sure if that's actually part of the experience or if it is, how it plays into things. While I agree that it does tend to just look like a novelty, the ride vehicles may be essential to the experience in aspects we don't yet know about.
While I don’t believe it would’ve been trackless, I did see this concept before. It was called ‘Dino Quizine,’ and in addition to the Dinosaur theming, the concept also included an interactive quiz element. Here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/dK5CaqcPoSw/видео.html
That's really intriguing. It could potentially make for an interesting video in the future too.
It’s an interesting idea but to be honest it sounds like a logistical nightmare. A big question I have is whether it works like a traditional dark ride where the entire ride system stops if someone gets out of their seat or if people are allowed to leave their seat as they please like a normal restaurant (such as to go to the bathroom). The former seems highly restrictive for the type of experience this is trying to be but the latter sounds like a nightmare as guests get in the way of other ride vehicles.
this sounds like so much fun! my only worry with limiting video experience would be that the experience is actually lame OR lame in every other part of it so they only want people releasing the cool parts! i will probably not be able to go to this thing since im not in the area, but i would love to see what the full ride actually is
From what I've read and watched, it seems to be the opposite. The most interesting rooms are the ones hidden away.
If they ever decide to upgrade the Be Our Guest restaurant in WDW or make a better version somewhere else, this layout could make it something genuinely incredible. I remember the first time I was entering that restaurant, and the enterance was so well-themed I legitimately expected to see ride vehicles inside.
I like your suggestion with Orlando. Living in Vegas for 6 years and then visiting Orlando I noticed they brought alot of the same things for entertainment and dining. They have Area 15 in Vegas and now there are plans to add it to the Orlando area as well.
I've been wondering what's happening with that. I believe they stated they wanted a 2024 opening for Area 15, but there has been absolutely no sight work or construction at all. I'm inclined to think that the project is delayed or cancelled.
Singapore has a cable car dining experience that's similar in concept, but I can't see this idea being practical in the long run. What happens if you have to go to the restroom in the middle of the meal? How do messes on the ride vehicle get cleaned up during operating hours? How would emergency services get to patrons if there were a medical issue? (The Etrenalin concept art of the room layout looks like it would be a nightmare for that scenario.) A lot can go wrong when you're trying to combine food with moving vehicles. I'm not discounting the idea, but it doesn't seem like it would appeal to many people outside of those that enjoy drive-through dining.
The vehicles seem to be parked in each location for an extended period of time. If patrons need to use the restroom, then they're escorted out of the ride track by an attendant and I assume that anyone who needs medical services should be easily accessible. With such small portion sizes and a more up-scale clientele, I don't really anticipate any significant messes happening either. The vehicles themselves also don't move as people are eating. They just simply take people from location to location. I think the concept works because it's adults who are a bit more conscious of their surroundings then the average theme park guest.
Great video great production value top notch stuff. This channel will be in the millions sooner rather then later.
I just hope they give you enough time to use the washroom midway though without your seat driving away without you
It's my understanding that they do. Anyone who needs to leave is escorted out of the ride track.
@@PoseidonEntertainment ...and then they get escorted back, right?
Combining food and a ride seems like a really bad idea. Not everyone eats at the same pace. Plus some people might get motion sickness or need to use the restroom. Not to mention all the issues where alcohol is involved. It sounds neat but doesn't look very practical.
It sounds awesome.
You get food and a ride at the same time.
This is absolutely fascinating, thanks for covering this.
The spills and need to use the restroom makes this concept a bit problematic. The first time someone vomits all over the floor will take out the ride until the mess and smells can be removed.
The accumulated food scraps gumming up the wheels will make this a maintenance challenge.
The reason why Disney uses trackless vehicles is that they are less expensive than the alternative such as Omnimover. These trackless systems are much cheaper and easier to maintain and also handle disabled guests much easier (the entire ride loop doesn’t need to stop to load unload a wheelchair).
I'm not anticipating that these will be problems though. If someone needs the restroom, the procedure is for an employee to escort whichever person needs to go. It's a slow moving ride with I'm sure good maintenance and cleanliness standards for the building. I don't see food falling on the floor as a huge problem.
It looks cool but seeing the plates I think that after the experience I would still be hungry.
I believe that each room serves multiple plates. It's difficult to really get a feel for what exactly this entails, but I believe there's more food than may initially appear.
Very interesting and cool premise. Personally, Id get really motion sick on this ride while eating though 🤢😂
I'd probably get motion sickness from that.
no thanks I'd rather just have a normal restaurant experience
For those worried about motion sickness... Apparantly the ride is so smooth that you dont notice the movement. I havent experienced it myself but thats what ive heard from reviews
i'd love to try this but how is Eatrenalin the name they landed on? you're not gonna experience any adrenalin & it's a clunky-ass portmanteau besides. Eatrenalin sounds like there's gonna be a launch section between courses
This idea is pretty awesome ngl. Great video.
This is actually really, really cheap for what it is. I hope they can make it more wheelchair-friendly in the future similar to how a lot of trackless rides have vehicles where a wheelchair can roll into.
Thanks for the video on this! I have never heard about this. I think if they brought this to Tokyo it would do well but eventually fizzle out. Ever hear about ORBI the BBC/SEGA project that went, well no where? I think there is one location still open in Yokohama.
I haven't heard of it, but doesn't Japan have a larger than average quantity of themed restaurants?
@@PoseidonEntertainment You do have a point there. I've been to a couple. One novel approach I've seen a company buys the rights to an ip and has a place to serve food but every two-three months they'll shift the theme and the food. But there are places like the Kawaii restaurant and Robot restaurant (that is still closed right now) that do populate the more pleasure areas of the cities. My favorite, that I've done is the lockup, that claims to be the scariest restaurant chain in Japan. The servers pop in and scare you and the food is appropriately themed, I really liked the takoyaki (octopus dumpling) russian roullette, six balls 5 filled with octopus one with wasabi. A word to the wise, if you are ever forced to play this game, fake that you got the wasabi. It's funny to see the reaction of the people who do get it.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
16 rooms arranged randomly to form a path. Each path is 4-16 rooms long. 6 paths, 6 riders per path. There's your dark ride.
I love this idea but if it came to any of the FL parks it would easily be 2k a plate. In the late 90's I would just go to Tomorrowland, get a slice of pizza and a surge slushee from the food stands under the Astro Orbitor, and walk on the people mover until I was done. I don't know if people now know but at the time that ride was always walk on, the operators would look at me strange but id say I have napkins and will be careful and often would ride 2-3 times without getting off because no one was waiting. It was the best lunch spot. I was always respectful, cleaned and took all of my trash with me. I just want that experience again and know it will never happen.
I'm surprised they let you do that, but it sounds like a great idea. If I recall correctly, I believe it was Pete Werner from The DIS that joked about adding a Peoplemover train with tables for an upcharge dining experience.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I would have paid it was a lovely time! Now though, it would take an hour to get through the line and be a less magical experience.
Ah yes, this is what the world needs. More idle amusements for the plutocrats.
It takes the circle Rama idea to an all new level. Like eating at the living with the land pavilion at Epcot.
Its worth noting that Europa Park already has a Michelin star restaurant
Which one? FoodLoop seems interesting, but I'm not familiar with the rest of their dining.
Wow, what a great idea. 💎
Wow, I chose the right time to look through your channel! lol
The moving seating seems a gimmick. The Eatrenalin ride system just cuts out the walking from room to room. You don’t need a ride system to customize a guest’s experience.
Magic Castle Hollywood has multiple rooms where guests go to dine, drink and experience different magic acts. Each room has a different aesthetic and magician. The guests can choose which order of room to visit, all around the castle.
That honestly looks super bland (If you’ll pardon the pun). It really just like a normal sterile middle of the road fine dining type restaurant with some mediocre fake rocks and projection screens. Maybe it’s just me not being into “fancy” stuff, but the combination of the high end food items and the sensations of moving around in your chair seems very off-putting, to the point where the clash might result in neither aspect being enjoyable. It’s creative and unique to be sure, but I don’t think it’s actually a good idea. It’s pretty much just Rainforest Cafe if it was made by Wolfgang Puck.
A place like that would fit perfectly in universal CityWalk
I'm going to have to disagree. I think that City Walk needs more to do, but I don't think that this makes sense with Universal's clientele. They skew younger and are pursuing a more thrilling experience. I'm not sure if there's demand for something like this on a sustainable scale. That's why I thought placing it on I-Drive near the Convention Center made the most sense. There's a lot of wealthy people visiting that area frequently and they would be the target demographic.
@@PoseidonEntertainment fair
$200 and it starts with the option of PURCHASING drinks. lol
Well, alcohol. I believe the champagne package is an additional $150 if I recall?
That popcorn ride is trippy lol
Disney world 🌍 should take a look at this,Bob Iger would've loved it and Walt Disney too!
This is great and all, but what if you have to use the restroom. Do you have to chase your table, after you're done?
There will come a day when every ride is trackless and old timers like me will still be amazed at free roaming, autonomous ride vehicles as a technology. 😊
Disney should’ve made an Eatrenalin style Ratatouille ride instead of screens, that would make it an incredible masterpiece, and it can stop people from hating Walt Disney Studios!
So this is the modern day version of the revolving restaurant.
There are some really cool ideas with the trackless vehicles, etc, but it's quite expensive for something that appears to rely heavily on the novelty of eating on the vehicles. There's also the fact that they don't disclose what foods are included, which is... concerning, to say the least. If one comes to Vegas or anywhere in the US, I'd probably be willing to spend the money on the experience just to see what it entails, but at the moment it just seems like a really cool idea that's pushing the boundaries of what ride technology can do. And I'm absolutely not averse to that, either. I want to see them push the envelope as hard as they can and create incredible new experiences with this technology.
I don't really agree that it's overpriced. If Disney can have similarly priced up-scale dining experiences and have no issue filling their tables, I actually perceive this as the better value. It's adding that ride and theming element on top of the dining experience.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I absolutely agree when compared to, say, a Disney restaurant. I'm looking at the overall package on its own merit, and I think I can only really objectively judge it if I ride it. I'm generally fairly skeptical of things that are as pretentious as a "tasting room" or dining sold as "a sensory experience". In all fairness, though, I've never actually experienced one, and they sell well, so maybe there's something to it that I just don't see from the outside.
As a person who experienced this multisensory restaurant (what they call it), it's no darkride. Don't compare it with a themepark ride.
It's not located in the themepark but next to one of the resort hotels, Hotel Kronasar. Actually, next to this restaurant is a full 20 min VR experience, walking around in a virtual world.
I can see comments about restraints. Why restraints? In a extremely slow moving vehicle, like 1 to 1,5 MPH? They ask you not to stand up, enough said for us Europeans. We just listen. If you have to go tot the bathroom they escort you when the seats are stopped and escort you back to your seat.
How do they restock ? This restaurant is formed in a circle pattern and restocking is done when there are no patrons in the room. So you wil never se someone walking around with an ice buket, wich we hardly use in Europe because all cold drinks are cooled. No need for a full glass of ice.
The food is extremely upscale with 2 different menu's Red (meat & fish) en Green (vegetarian) and they can also meet dietary preferences/vegan.
And i can see comments about the rollercoaster restaurant in Alton Towers. Actually, this concept comes from Europapark.
And don't forget, Europapark is also the only Themepark resort with an onsite 2 star Michelin restaurant, Ammolite, situated in the Bell Rock hotel.
Goddamn!! First of all great video and I love all of your content. Second, that restaurant looks amazing! I live in Orlando and I really hope we get an experience like this here.
I kind of doubt we will, but one can hope.
This is remarkable. I’d love to see this taken to its extreme, imagine eating caviar on iron gwazi
I love this! It doesn’t seem like $200 is too bad a price, but probably $25 a glass of adult beverage. Only thing…..this is a picky eater’s nightmare. I can see myself having to get Wendy’s after.
Nice video you’ve done, man!
This is probably that 'awkward teenage' stage of this style of dining. Its interesting but a little bit unnecessary imo. I can totally imagine the whole 'dinner and a show' type thing existing further down the line with more abundant themeing and a good story. Maybe even at Disney. I imagine that the Beauty and the Beast ride at Tokyo disneyland could be duplicated in other parks as a dining experience with a musical show and moving dining vehicles. A POTC dining show could also be interesting with diners on board boats.
Those do sound like really interesting ideas. I agree in general though. This very much seems like a proof of concept. It'll be interesting to see if they expand to other cities.
I have to say this looks really interesting and if I’m ever over in Europe anytime soon I’ll have to try and check it out thanks for sharing
Very innovative! Disney better watch out: they might lose market share!
Very cool although I hope there are chances to stand up during this "ride"
The bathroom is easily available once the vehicles stop moving. It's my understanding that an employee will have to escort people there though.
Looks like a fun tasting ride experience.
Relating to this, would the Netflix original Somebody Feed Phil attraction do well with this concept? Would be pretty cool if the foods rotated through each ride being an episode.
To put this in a universal or Disney park domestically they would have to have the respective attractions and food and beverage cast cooperate. A food and beverage cast member wouldn’t be able to run out on the ride path, there would need to be platforms to serve from. If they must walk out on the path, they’ll need to work with ride operators to eliminate motion.
But hey Walt once said if you can dream it you can do it and he would want such a thing in his parks like he did with the monorail and Matterhorn for example
I don't think either of them would adopt this, nor would I really want them to. If Eatrenalin can work as a brand by itself and expand to multiple cities, I think that's probably the best course for an idea like this.
Journey Into Imagination Taste Lab does exist after all!
Hm sounds interesting, but I immediately thought of food, glass with drinks falling on the floor.. This was before I saw the actual footage, and I think you don't move when you consume something. I do not know if I think it's a good interesting though, it's not something that excites me personally. To me it feels like one big gimmick, so the food has to be amazing for this to last. Unless the ride part actually brings something unique to the table (he he he), this is basically just being driven like a baby in a pram to a table :P But this is my cynical first reaction, I won't knock it till I try it. It is interesting as a concept.. but hmm. I don't know..
I think it's up-scale dining first, a ride second. I suppose it's the novelty of using a ride vehicle to move from room to room, working as a proof of concept.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Yea it's intriguing for sure. It's like the novelty of the rollercoaster restaurants where your (fast)food is delivered to your table by a little cart on a track. It's fun to experience the mechanics of it all.
Unrelated, but it also reminds me on the chair on rails in the Casper movie - I really wanted that chair! Although as a kid I was worried about the shaving razors :D
Comment for the algorithm. Also, this looks very interesting. I can picture a DIsney Buffet using this to shuttle guests to the food stations, finally a ride based on the Wall-E ip.
That's certainly an interesting idea. I can't see it happening, but the theme makes sense.
I think it's wacky how stuff like this can exist and I don't already know about it
Disney needs this at their parks.
Honestly, I can see this working for $100 if it were dialed down and not involving so many course meals. It also sounds like a way to get easy profits too since it would be like eating at an expensive restaurant while also getting a show attached to that too.
I’m just wondering who would make that happen first in the states. Disney seems the most obvious (and they do have a dark ride featuring a cooking rat already, so why not expand on that further as a second experience?) but really if done right, this could be a neat project to see unfold in the future.
Monsieur Paul charges $195 a person and they don't seem to have an issue getting people into the doors. I definitely think there's demand for something like this.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Apologies for the low-ball estimate. I can see the demand for sure for something as unique and special like this, but I guess I wasn't sure what would be seen as a fair price. So if $195 has been working well, then all the more power to them. Honestly, I can't wait to see this or similar places open up.
2:08 what's that ride with the Jollibee clone?
It would be neat to take the current technology and use it for a theatre experience. Like an immersive theatre experience or a magic show with different show rooms. It will be a fine tune version of Ellen's Energy adventure with the smaller cars and without Ellen, Energy, or Adventure.
I think I can see the appeal in that. Still, something similar to the Carousel of Progress would probably work in bringing forth that experience as well.
This could be a fantastic addition to Epcot, Disney wouldn’t do it tho
Nah they wouldn't and I can't say that I would trust them to make it interesting either. Maybe when Disney gets more creative leadership in the future, but definitely not now.
@@PoseidonEntertainment honestly, if they converted Galactic Starcruiser into a walkthrough experience with a trackless ride as the dining portion (all themed to original trilogy of course), they could probably recoup a ton of money. People would throw money to be able to ride in a little pod racer from the Tattooine room to Hoth etc.
I Drive would be good, but knowing city zoning and permitting, they'd put it right there on I Drive near Hawaiian or Destination intersection. A high end place will fit in perfectly there to let tourists choose from fine dining experience to Red lobster to McD's :P
Somewhere near The Pointe would make sense. If not though, I doubt that this would ever come to Orlando.
I was just being facetious that's what city gov't would do. But, you're right that it wouldn't even get to O-town. Or, if it did, it would be done half right. Good location, insufficient foot print like Dave and Busters. The D&B on I Drive is too small and such a let down compared to one in Jacksonville.
I don't know about this. An hour and a half small tastes food tour for $200 on top of getting into the park. Not for me. The vehicles don't look to have restraints which means people might get up since it's so slow. Which food service profits mainly on high turn over and the building (what little we see) I'm wondering where the kitchen in and how food gets where. Like if one room runs out of something, how is it restocked. The rooms looked jammed together like escape rooms, no staff hallways or areas to move around and not be in the path of "ride" vehicles ( I know, not important. But if someone walks in with buckets of ice and dumps them in the drinks area, it's not an "experience") it's a cute idea but will it last long? I had high tea once, very fancy, but honestly ( maybe it's me) eating is not an experience on the same level as a ride or show and being so secretive is a turn off for how much you are paying, it's a rich experience I'll never have. Do you think this concept could stand alone outside of a theme park? Theme entertainment dining seems to be dying or at least not expanding. Charles Entertainment Cheese, has no shows, Rainforest Cafe is ...🤷🏻♀️ I don't know. I heard of a rollercoaster themed dining in Alton Towers (I believe, could be wrong) where the food is delivered by coaster track thru the restaurant that seemed fun, but how sustainable is a system that you have the experience probably only once? Definitely not twice in one day.
Weird question but was that giant oyster-looking dish at 5:33 blurred out in the original footage or was this a decision for folks grossed out by eating mollusks?
It was blurred out by the news outlet. I assume that Eatrenalin wanted to keep the dishes a surprise.
5:30 Why was the food blurred?
Strangest concept ever, but I approve. Still seems linear, though, no? Would be cool if you could select the order in which room you go to.
To clarify, my issue isn't with the idea of linearity in general. Rather, it's with trackless dark rides not using space effectively. For example, attractions such as Runaway Railway, Ratatouille and Rise of the Resistance could have been tracked and very little would have changed. In contrast, we see trackless vehicles in Beauty and the Beast really push attraction design forward in how they change conventional methods of story telling in rides. They utilize a smaller footprint by backtracking and dancing in large rooms, allowing scenes to play out over the course of a few minutes in a way that has previously been impossible with tracked rides. While not always the right choice, it has certainly opened the door for a different type of experience using this technology. In the same way that it's impossible to experience entire musical numbers from Beauty and the Beast with a tracked ride system, so too would something like Eatrenalin be impossible without the trackless vehicles.
This is so creative!!!
This looks amazing!
But I'm a picky eater, so I wouldn't enjoy it.
But It it was more like I could order from a menu like any "normal" restaurant and then be taken on the "ride" while I'm served drinks, then the appetizer, then the main course, then the dessert, that would be awesome!
would love to eat here some time but i dont think it wil be hapening bc of the price
At least it feels worth the price. Even if there weren't moving vehicles, the dining experience itself really seems up there.
@@PoseidonEntertainment true it looks great even without the moving cart