Best Fall Food Plot | Green Blends!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Here is the history of creating a food plot blend of leafy green goodness that can be planted nearly anywhere a whitetail roams, with a huge variety of planting equipment. The evolution of the WHS Green Blend into our current Fall Power Greens has come a long way since the beginning days in the early 2000s. From green blend combinations of buckwheat, beans and peas to including oats, rye, wheat, radish, vetch and even a base of clover at times, our new Fall Power Greens is a culmination of decades of research, trial and error...
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I had great plots using both Jeff's Brassica blend and his WHS green blend last year. I've received my 2023 Brassica blend and my WHS Fall Power Greens (and some Dual Threat). What I really appreciate about these blends is that they are tweaked from year to year. As a customer, I really appreciate that. You guys never remain stagnant and are always developing the best blends for us. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much Josh, your comment and support means so much to us! And you are right...we are always trying to chase perfection so the blends will always be tweaked 👍 Part of the fun of owning a seed company 😊 I feel like a kid in a candy store...
This dude can talk in circles with the best of them!
Hope your eye gets better Jeff
Thanks a lot Mark! I get that shot once a month and man they bruised it bad this last time! Takes about 2 weeks for a bad bruise to go away...looks a lot worse than it is at k ast...thanks tho!
Hope your feeling well Jeff, been following you over the years. Good video
Thanks a lot Risd I really appreciate that!
Food plot season... Woo Hooo ! 🕺🏻👍🏻☘
Haha...lots of fun!
Can't wait to get planting this year. Trying for two plots in different parts of MN. Took deer in both last year thanks to your advice!
That's awesome to hear...we can't wait either!
I love this mix of greens on my plots in northern Wisconsin. I also added some crimson clover last year and found it did well. Overall very attractive to the deer in my area.
Very good combo for northern areas too!
Hi Jeff, what setting should i use on my earthway spreader for this mix? Going to give this a go this fall. Thanks!
Our 400 lbs of seed just arrived an hour ago! We're attempting to convert a 6 acre ag field into a nice little honey hole on our new property!
This is all very new to us so hoping for some decent results!
Man that is perfect!! Love to hear it Justin, we really appreciate it!
Our buckwheat in the Summer Soil Explosion is about 4" tall. I don't plan on spraying anything. I can just till that in in about a month then plant my Fall Power greens?
Looking good
Thanks a lot Steve...really appreciate it!
Thanks Jeff👍🏻
You are very welcome!
Your podcast said don’t leave wood on your plot, but what if you burn it?
Burning the wood is not a bad idea at all! Just have to make sure it is all removed...
Can anyone offer some advice on my fall food plots. I planted about 7 1/2 acres of buckwheat and was planning to follow Jeff’s Ultimate No till strategy for my Fall food plots. However I made a mistake In some areas and did not get good germination and ended up with weeds. I have a mixture of weeds and buckwheat and tall dead vegetation in other areas.
My thought was to mow everything down short first, and just use the buckwheat as green manure since I have weeds with it and till everything in. Than wait about a week or two and let weeds start to grow and spray with glyphosate to terminate weeds. After this step, seed half brassicas and half in the power greens. Thoughts on this approach or any other suggestions? Thank you
Jeff, if I have soft soil, but bought tillage radish because it was on sale, should I still mix it in my plot? I was thinking beans/peas/oats side. Or brassica side? Thanks!
Hi Kyle...both of our blends have them in... Very important component!
Will be placing an order soon for seed for northern Michigan . Want to try and add some rye this year. Just to make sure we are doing it properly, just simply broadcast the seed into the plot amd it will grow? It will get enough soil contact ? Thanks
Hi Matt we really appreciate it! Yes, just broadcast into the soil and rye just needs some rain. It will grow easily! Very foolproof which is a good thing!!
If you can’t find rye and use wheat instead, do you layer the wheat like you would the rye? Thank you for all the amazing videos.
Hi Beau...you are very welcome! And you sure can use wheat just like rye. Wheat just needs a little higher pH and better spoil.
Jeff, do you put out any kind of mineral blocks/licks (example Trophy Rock) on your land, food plots, watering holes?
Hi Henry! They are illegal here. Also they are great spots for a trail cam location but there is no study ever, that shows they are effective for helping deer in any way
Hey Jeff - similar to cereal grains taking away from brassicas and not planting them together, won't the oats and radish compete with one another?
They do pretty well together ...with light oats! Different with oats too. Rye has a natural chemical weed suppressant and much more aggressive growth patterns....
If you have to plant brassicas in the spring and give them a extra few months to grow, can the brassicas get to mature and undiserable to deer? I’ve tried for years to fall plant brassicas in northeast Washington and we just don’t have a good fall growing season. We go grim drought to winter usually over night. Cereal grains do good. Thank you for any and all advice.
Hi Beau! That's tough with the brassicas as they tend to rot out and can also s Rd out and cause problems. I would watch for seeding out and then look for appreciable rain patterns after July 1st. They can take a lack of rain for a while...IF established well. They will fizzle out when young tho...
I need some help. My Brassica resprouted this spring and is now 3-4ft tall. Should I spray it? Will it come back?
Hi Nathan I would mow and spray...for sure! You want to kill it and get rid of it.
Jeff love the videos thank you for all you do. Based on this video for .25 acre plot I came up with
2.25lb hairy vetch
2.5lb peas
1lb tillage radish
6lb buck forage oats
2.75lb buckwheat
Does that look right to you? Thank you for your time.
Hi Dillan I think that is roughly about right? I would add some more peas maybe? At least you can add more peas...not more oats tho
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you Jeff. I’m on sandy soil in Howell Michigan. So not pure sand like the west side of the state but kind of a loamy sand. I was trying to minimize the peas due to that. Would you still add more peas? Or add something else instead? Thanks again.
Thanks Jeff, love hearing this stuff. ??? Does glyphosate kill winter rye?
You are very welcome and it DOES kill rye...very quickly.
If you plant mainly tillage radish in a field, can you keep planting that year to year without hurting the soil?
The price on your seed going to be lower this year?
It already is...since around the 1st of the year? We changed our original supplier who was charging us extremely high rates, so we were able to drop the Big Boost Brassica from 49.50 to 37.50 for a 4# bag, and the Fall Power Greens dropped from 69.95 to 59.99 for a 24# bag. Those prices will always vary from year to year slightly, as we change the mixes to ever chase perfection. The rest of our seed blends reflect the same pricing strategy percentages.
You used to talk about how you shouldn't add buckwheat etc to your fall green plantings because the first frost will kill it and then every bite is not replaced. Why are you now adding it to the mix>?
That was in 2002 in the UP of Michigan where we had frost on 9/1 that would kill it. I've been adding it for several years now. Deer love it when young so it adds great volume and then it fizzles out to let the young rye explode towards the end of Sept. What had been doing with the 2013 WHS green blend was to add brassica, a layer of tillage radish and then at least 50#s more of peas to the blend...largely to cut the amount of oats per acre and to add more leafy green. I did that for quite a few years...maybe since 2015? And tweaked the amounts every year. I also tailored client mixes to the type of soil they had with similar blends. Which is why we now have the sandy soil blend and the Fall Power Greens...both the same concept with a different variety.
The buckwheat is meant to die...also that rye can fill that gap. Around here tho it typically stays green in thru early Oct
When are you going to have buckwheat seed?
We do...but only by the pallet. Qwe don't in the near future s ring that change, and that largely has to do with how much we have to charge for 1, 50# bag. So for now...20 and 40 bag pallets....same with winter rye
Jeff- These percentages are percent of a "full boat" as you like to say, correct? Not by volume or weight? What's the difference in the sandy soil blend vs this?
Yes...the 110-116% is total seed to acre planted. Meaning, 8#s per acre of clover is 100%...so 9#s would be 111% (or something like that) of total acreage.
The sandy (bad soil) blend has no peas as they don't do well in bad soil, we added rye to the blend and I slanted the %s of seed towards the pieces of oats, vetch, buckwheat and tillage radish that do the best in sandy or bad soil. For example 20% of an acre of tillage radish instead of 30%+.
I hope that makes sense? Each of those do well in bad soil, but some do better than others
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Yep, makes total sense. The other question is why is rye in the blend? It's plentiful and cheap and would be layered on about 1 month after this planting anyway? Would it be to protect the other species from browse?
@@c.s.8359 It's a light amount...buy a nurse crop for the radish and buckwheat and vetch. Also a "sure thing" without so much seed that it gets in the way.
Im all the way up in quebec canada, my hardy zone for plant is Between 2 and 3, what type of switch grass could i use for screening? Is there any? Should i focus only on conifer and local shrubs?
Hey Jeff should you plant corn or no? I am gonna try and plant about a quarter of an acre for the deer because we are in ag land. in Michigan so not much food around.
Just last year, the ag land around me started planting many acres of rye. This has greatly hurt my plots. Any suggestions?
Hey Jeff are you shipping seeds to Canada yet ??
We sure are Carlo! You can contact Wes to set it up for you...
weston.whs@gmail.com
i’ve been in contact with wes via email.
He even gave me a phone number, called 3 times.
even left a voicemail.
i’ll keep trying!
Thanks Jeff.
Hi Jeff! I’m in Maine and was wondering if you would suggest brassicas or the grains such as oats or winter rye?
Hi Alex...it's hard to say for sure, but I actually split the plantings a LOT! If at least a 1)4 acre or more ..especially an acre +, I like brassica on 1/2 and a green blend on the other 1/2.
Smaller plots I like planting in clover...and adding rye later to fill in. (around 9/1 for you).
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you! Keep up the great content.
Jeff have you been turkey hunting any?
Not yet! Hopefully very soon...as in next week can't wait Drew! And I hope you have gotten out...or are getting out, very soon!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 yep I’m struggling this year! Just can’t get any in range
@@drewharman1690 well enjoy it Drew! We left several inches of snow in MN which was perfect for us...then get to come home to no snow and turkey time! Can't wait...
You also talk about absolutely no food in your screens, but your deer fence has sorghum in it?
Hi Connor! Sorghum isn't a food source...with the exception of a very small % of sweeter sorghums and even then they are a very poor food source. This is not a sweet variety...but either way not a good source. If you have deer eating your sorghum there are some major population problems on the land. From what I've experienced witnessing 1000s of acres of screening blends 1st hand, if the deer are eating sorghum they will likely be eating the Egyptian Wheat 😬 Which is a very bad problem...
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Big Subconj heme Jeff! Are you on blood thinners or hypertension drugs? Take care of yourself Mr!
What happened to your eye? Looks bloody
I get a shot in the eye once a month for diabeties. Dr didn't do a great job this time, ha...at least it looks like he didn't!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 oh I see hopefully everything works out
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 also will the price be going down on your green blend? Was going to buy it and wondering if the prices are going to go down
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Thanks Jeff!
You are very welcome Isaac!