I think it's more of an explanation as to why the Ashes are of "magical enhancement". The ashes aren't special because they're Andraste's, they're special because they've been sitting next to extremely pure lyrium.
@@rolandosanchez2019 lyrium ghost ? its more likely she became possesed like anders and cassandra by some spirit of faith or vengeance more likely as she is very ruthless in inqusition if you murdered her
Since only the faithful are supposed to be able to get to the urn I am 90% sure that Oghren is correct on that Lyrium part but the missing urn at the end of the game if something goes wrong makes me wonder.
Lelouchxzero1 Lyrium is quite mysterious... First urn vanishes, then Leliana gets resurrected, then Renn (from Descend DLC) disappears from his grave...
Well technically what you're doing is defiling a corpse, its like you've dug up someones grave and pissed on them, and not only that, thats the remains of their godess. Just trying to see their side.
Very old comment, but technicality: Not their goddess (that would be the cultists), but their prophet. It would be like finding the actual remains of Jesus Christ while travelling with devout Christians, and pissing on them.
No it's the ultimate act of stupid, you literally make enemies of everyone involved. Poor cultists just wanna take over the world in the name of their dragon god :(
The super magical remains on a level that within the setting of Dragon age would be the equivalent of the holy grail if magic powers actually existed in our world, and you're surprised that two pious women would lose their shit?
I'm surprised two pious women whom claim the grey wardens are imperative to the destruction of the Blight to turn readily on said saviours, despite one claiming to have been gifted a vision by the maker aiding them in their task. That being said, I see your point lol. I just think it's highly hypocritical that their insinstence on the Grey Wardens importance is readily lost for defilement of a would be prophet.
I can’t decide on which is the most evil choice of the game: between leaving the redcliffe villagers to their fate or letting that tevinter slaver take all the elves cause you made the deal to choose the information you needed for the landsmeet, over them
Probably the slavery bit, to be honest. My Rogue City Elf left Redcliffe to its fate due to her sordid history with humans. But she didn't create that chaos. She didn't even enjoy it. It just wasn't her problem, and she had a Blight to stop. Is it a heartless decision? Is it a morally objectionable decision? Oh, absolutely, but I hesitate to call it evil. On the other hand, literally throwing other people's lives away for money? You are actively supporting the destruction of other people's well being and self agency for profit. In that case you aren't just ignoring a problem, you're actively participating in it.
Fisrt: saved before helping the mad man and his cult. Second:Obtain the reaper class Third: reload and wipe out the whole cult with your new powers Fourth: make leliana and wynne very happy.
I like how everyone in the party has their different views, though I am surprised Alistair wasn't more disapproving of defiling the Urn of Sacred Ashes. Sten's and Morrigan's responses make sense regarding their characters, but they're hypocrites; Sten derides the Chantry but looks how he reacts if you criticize the Qun, and Morrigan should look in a mirror when she calls the Chantry things such as cruel, manipulative, deceitful and power-hungry. Ironically, if the Chantry was as bad as Morrigan says it is, she'd make an excellent member. I couldn't bring myself to destroy the Ashes with any of my Wardens. The writers behind Dragon Age deliberately said they're keeping the Maker's existence ambiguous, so that's why there's lyrium veins in the mountain; in-universe, maybe the Maker imbued Andraste and her ashes with power or it's the lyrium. In favor of the Maker argument, if you defile the Ashes, the Disciples notice a change even though defiling the ashes shouldn't effect the lyrium veins.
I don't see sten as a hypocrite. Sten doesn't acknowledge the chantry or their teachings. He has already discredited it and thinks it is heretical. He only acknowledges the Qun and anything else is rubbish.
I think morrigan doesn't dislike that the chantry is manipulative, she dislikes that no one will admit that it is and people let the chantry get away with it. Many in Thedas believe the chantry to be a good and pure place, which it isn't, and most people who look at Morrigan see a manipulative enchantress, which she is in this game. Also, Sten is not badmouthing organized religion, just any religion that isn't the Qun.
@@TheStrongNerd I've never noticed anything manipulative about Morrigan. From the time you meet her up until the final battle, she's straight honest with you. Aside from her feelings of course. 🐉
The Chantry reminds me a lot of the Church of the Eternal Fire from the Witcher franchise in a lot of ways. They are just slightly kinder in that they don't push for daily witch burnings or directly instigate riots against non-humans. They'll still kill mages, they'll just force them to live in a cramped tower and see what happens first.
It's part of the mod called "grey wardens of ferelden" and the colours can be changed through downloading an extension to that mod, but I forgot the name of the extension. You can find out more on the nexus (nexusmods.com)
"You may have your reasons for wanting to keep the Urn a secret, but I sincerely doubt they were worth the life of this good man." Man, sometimes Bioware writing is just stupid. Wynne is sentimental, but not an idiot.
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"Nice vase. I should get one for my house." Zevran, there's a woman's ashes in there xD
he knows what he said
Congratulations, you found a waste bin. I just died.
find it funny Alistair seems to have forgotten we've drank the blood of darkspawn...
And wasn't THAT such a lovely experience?
I love how half of the companions are in awe and about to shit themselves from just looking at the urn, while the other half are mildly disappointed.
The way Morrigan said SHE KNOWS that this is human blood is creepy.
Flemeth must have done nasty things
She's just familiar with the sent being able to transform into wild beasts
@@fx3dv2vg7m no she clearly says flemeth would chase chasing men, bed them then sacrifice them.
I theorized that the reason behind alistairs mild reaction is due to him being so desensitized to the wardens shit that this is considered mild
I wonder if Ohgren's lyrium talk is foreshadowing Red Lyrium.
I think it's more of an explanation as to why the Ashes are of "magical enhancement". The ashes aren't special because they're Andraste's, they're special because they've been sitting next to extremely pure lyrium.
Also to the lyrium ghost that Leliana becomes afterwards if you mix the ashes AND the blood.
@@fawnieee NO SHUT UP HERETIC!
REPORT TO NEAREST WITCH HUNTER IMMEDIATLY
@@rolandosanchez2019That's just a theory though, granted one with a lot of evidence, but a theory nonetheless.
@@rolandosanchez2019 lyrium ghost ? its more likely she became possesed like anders and cassandra by some spirit of faith or vengeance more likely as she is very ruthless in inqusition if you murdered her
I like how alistair acts like it's a minor inconvenience
Compared to the Blight it kinda is I suppose
Man the Warden can be a cold blooded SOB.
The way he turned after you stabbed him...
I though he was possed and was gonna laugh or sth
That has to be the most cold-blooded I've ever seen Wynne get.
Since only the faithful are supposed to be able to get to the urn I am 90% sure that Oghren is correct on that Lyrium part but the missing urn at the end of the game if something goes wrong makes me wonder.
Lelouchxzero1 Lyrium is quite mysterious... First urn vanishes, then Leliana gets resurrected, then Renn (from Descend DLC) disappears from his grave...
"That is human blood." is so iconic
Warden: /dumps dragon blood in extraordinarily sacred jar
Warden: /shrugs
Anyone who believes that a vicious High Dragon is a goddess reborn is either in need of a padded room in a mental ward or a headless neck!!!
NeoDanomaru For some reason that dragon still listens to these cultists...
More likely the beast simply understands that one of the beings it has accepted to watch over its children wishes to allow these strangers passage.
This comment cracked me up so bad! Laughed for ages
Not a goddess...
@@AlexZebol and ignores you if you kill them. Its more like they are annoyance to the Dragon but she gives them chance to walk away anyway
Wynne's "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?" made me laugh.
I honestly thought the dregon was going to eat him the first time. That would have been funny.
The Warden: *extremely casually desecrates a religious artifact*
Morrigan, Sten, Zevran and Shale don`t have time for any of this holy grail bullshit.
''I hope it involes chains.I hope they ask me to join -Priceless!!!
Ah, Zevran. Even 10 yrs later his comments give me a laugh.
Well technically what you're doing is defiling a corpse, its like you've dug up someones grave and pissed on them, and not only that, thats the remains of their godess. Just trying to see their side.
Very old comment, but technicality: Not their goddess (that would be the cultists), but their prophet. It would be like finding the actual remains of Jesus Christ while travelling with devout Christians, and pissing on them.
That is some scary freaking music at 4:42 lovely work.
I love defiling Andraste's ashes drinking the dragon blood then killing the cult XD it's the ultimate act of evil mwhahahaha >:D
I'm sorry, I like evil but not THAT evil!!!
You forgot the part where you kill their god.
No it's the ultimate act of stupid, you literally make enemies of everyone involved. Poor cultists just wanna take over the world in the name of their dragon god :(
@@LadyStoneheart312 That's pretty accurate... Exaclty how chantry began... But they are doing it in the "name of Andraste".
The super magical remains on a level that within the setting of Dragon age would be the equivalent of the holy grail if magic powers actually existed in our world, and you're surprised that two pious women would lose their shit?
I'm surprised two pious women whom claim the grey wardens are imperative to the destruction of the Blight to turn readily on said saviours, despite one claiming to have been gifted a vision by the maker aiding them in their task.
That being said, I see your point lol. I just think it's highly hypocritical that their insinstence on the Grey Wardens importance is readily lost for defilement of a would be prophet.
emotions
Zevran: I hope it involves chains
*inquisitor 10 years later*
Zevran from Rivia?
Lol, that witcher armor... :D
HA Genitivi's death animation is funny
Zevran is looking good in Geralt of Rivia's armor.
The irony of Alistair being wary of drinking dragon blood. Your ancestors already did that for you, boo.
His "You are what you eat" response was funny, tho. Lol
He didn't know that yet.
OGHREN WAS SO FUCKING RIGHT !
Thank you thanks to you I heard so many dialogues))
I can’t decide on which is the most evil choice of the game: between leaving the redcliffe villagers to their fate or letting that tevinter slaver take all the elves cause you made the deal to choose the information you needed for the landsmeet, over them
Probably the slavery bit, to be honest.
My Rogue City Elf left Redcliffe to its fate due to her sordid history with humans. But she didn't create that chaos. She didn't even enjoy it. It just wasn't her problem, and she had a Blight to stop. Is it a heartless decision? Is it a morally objectionable decision? Oh, absolutely, but I hesitate to call it evil.
On the other hand, literally throwing other people's lives away for money? You are actively supporting the destruction of other people's well being and self agency for profit. In that case you aren't just ignoring a problem, you're actively participating in it.
Lol that Sten morph is atrocious
Leonidas has gone crazy!
i love sten.
and shale.
+neosaneo2 who doesn't?
neosaneo2 and they love each other. Their dialogue hints at it.
is this the same haven from inquisition? comes it sure doesn't seem like it
+Nicholas Rich Much time has passed and it is in winter in Inquisition
+Bob Thesexyfish Yeah like 10 years pass.
Plus most of this cultists were killed by the Warden.
Much time has passed, it’s been destroyed, plus better graphics makes most things look different
@@Testingthisname if the warden allied with them they are wiped out by Cullen and the inquisition forces and demons
I love Sten.
And then we load a previous save and wiped them out and get double the fun :-)
Fisrt: saved before helping the mad man and his cult.
Second:Obtain the reaper class
Third: reload and wipe out the whole cult with your new powers
Fourth: make leliana and wynne very happy.
Raven's armor in witcher 1 to be precise.
The more I learn of what the acaar origons was the more the dragon subquest saddens me, seeing as this _was_ that origin.
I like how everyone in the party has their different views, though I am surprised Alistair wasn't more disapproving of defiling the Urn of Sacred Ashes. Sten's and Morrigan's responses make sense regarding their characters, but they're hypocrites; Sten derides the Chantry but looks how he reacts if you criticize the Qun, and Morrigan should look in a mirror when she calls the Chantry things such as cruel, manipulative, deceitful and power-hungry. Ironically, if the Chantry was as bad as Morrigan says it is, she'd make an excellent member.
I couldn't bring myself to destroy the Ashes with any of my Wardens. The writers behind Dragon Age deliberately said they're keeping the Maker's existence ambiguous, so that's why there's lyrium veins in the mountain; in-universe, maybe the Maker imbued Andraste and her ashes with power or it's the lyrium. In favor of the Maker argument, if you defile the Ashes, the Disciples notice a change even though defiling the ashes shouldn't effect the lyrium veins.
I don't see sten as a hypocrite. Sten doesn't acknowledge the chantry or their teachings. He has already discredited it and thinks it is heretical. He only acknowledges the Qun and anything else is rubbish.
I think morrigan doesn't dislike that the chantry is manipulative, she dislikes that no one will admit that it is and people let the chantry get away with it. Many in Thedas believe the chantry to be a good and pure place, which it isn't, and most people who look at Morrigan see a manipulative enchantress, which she is in this game. Also, Sten is not badmouthing organized religion, just any religion that isn't the Qun.
@@TheStrongNerd I've never noticed anything manipulative about Morrigan. From the time you meet her up until the final battle, she's straight honest with you. Aside from her feelings of course. 🐉
The Chantry reminds me a lot of the Church of the Eternal Fire from the Witcher franchise in a lot of ways. They are just slightly kinder in that they don't push for daily witch burnings or directly instigate riots against non-humans. They'll still kill mages, they'll just force them to live in a cramped tower and see what happens first.
I forget Zevran is a walking sex joke
lol morrigans outfit even more skimpy
On a cold, cold mountaintop. 😂
I love Morrigan. Seriously. 😂
0:55 zev? Zev *what does this mean*
Jesus Christ anyone know the name for his grey warden outfit? I've been finding it for a while now...
It's part of the mod called "grey wardens of ferelden" and the colours can be changed through downloading an extension to that mod, but I forgot the name of the extension. You can find out more on the nexus (nexusmods.com)
Samuel Charnock Thank you :)
I love poisoning the Ashes xD
If it's not... Tin foil hat time.
where do you get all the mods im curious?
Is... Oghren wearing a Blood Angel Armor?
Your thumbnail is a gif?
"You may have your reasons for wanting to keep the Urn a secret, but I sincerely doubt they were worth the life of this good man."
Man, sometimes Bioware writing is just stupid. Wynne is sentimental, but not an idiot.