DPAD is actually perfect now, when rocking the finger back and forth on just 1 side it shouldn't trigger diagonals, that's only okay for fighting games, for precision games you want the DPAD to avoid those false diagonals.
I disagree with that Diagonals can be triggered by holding a single direction on multiple consoles from snes to the genesis n64 and even the gamecube so to me that is the standard
@@VKsChannel That applies to membranes, but not mechanical/dome switches, if we are to go back in time and compare with those, check out the PS Vita, GBA SP, DSI, and all these other consoles. Yes they aren't standalone controllers, the most comparable for those would probably be modern Xbox controllers but none of those share the proper feel of a Vita DPAD or similar.
@@CleanDesign_ being able to activate diagonals by holding on one direction means you can get a quicker response activating diagonal movement quicker and with less effort, also there is no space for hitting a "diagonal" button unless you have a circle D-Pad so yes activating diagonals easily is a must and I have no idea what you are talking about, MOST first party controllers you can activate diagonals with a single direction and I have the original controllers as well just to name a few that you can Snes,N64, Sega Genesis, Virtualboy, Gamecube, Ps3,Ps4,Ps5, New 3DS, Xbox one, Xbox Series, if you play competitive games you will also lose commands due to the hard to press diagonals, and on a final note, the default gate for arcade sticks is a box, meaning that when you push down you just need to slide to the sides to get the diagonals, so the easy to hit diagonals mimics that range of accuracy
@@VKsChannel I agree that hard to press diagonals are a no go. But dpads that can activate diagonal while only pressing a cardinal direction are also a no go. Without a circle pad you simply press two cardinal directions at the same time to activate diagonals (for example down + right). This is why some controllers with over sized cross shaped Dpads are considered flawed, because it is hard to press two directions at once. On a proper cross dpad you can easily reach two cardinal directions at one and the diagonal input is instant, there is no delay. Not sure about the modern controllers you listed except for the PS4. The PS4 had two versions of its controller (one with the light at the top of the controller and one with the light on the front). They both had opposite dpad problems, one put out diagonals if you weren't dead center on a cardinal. The other had hard to press diagonals and accurate cardinals. Both versions got complaints from the FGC depending on the character type the player used. The PS1 and PS2 controller has neither of these issues. Diagonals came out easily by pressing two cardinals, and cardinals wouldn't trigger diagonals if they were the only button being pressed. This is much the same as the original NES controller, and in my experience with my SNES controllers (though there were revisions to this controller). For example in Contra on an NES controller, you can press down to duck and have no fear in a tense moment that you didn't put too much pressure to one side of the cardinal, as a diagonal input will cause you to stand up and walk forward, right into the bullet you were trying to avoid. Yet at the same time, on an NES controller you can easily press any of the four diagonals to aim your gun and shoot diagonally. On the modern Nintendo Online NES controller they messed up the build and now cardinal directions can trigger diagonals, leading to complaints from many and online tutorials on how to fix the problem. Perhaps they were listening, because the SNES Nintendo Online controller that came out later seems to have greatly improved the dpad accuracy. The Switch Pro controller is also widely panned for the accidental diagonals issue, so much so that there was a huge rumor going around that the Xeno Blade version of the controller had fixed the issue with a hardware revision. However pro gamer and Tetris enthusiast Chris Tang got his hands on the controller only to sadly report that the rumor was false and rocking a cardinal direction still output diagonals. If you look around at other controller reviews from news sites and RUclips channels, you will see pretty much everyone that checks the dpad for accuracy, reports it as a negative or a flaw when a cardinal input can be rocked and trigger a diagonal. If you go through Amazon reviews for controllers you will find many one star reviews on a lot of 8bitdo's controllers complaining about diagonals coming out when pressing cardinals. Many RUclipsrs will pull up a controller test on PC and test the controller by pressing left and right repeatedly back and forth and if any other directions come out they will let the viewer know the dpad is not accurate. There are no real world benefits to pressing a cardinal and getting a diagonal. If you want diagonal you press the input for diagonal. On the flip side, there are many real world issues that come up when getting a diagonal when you pressed a cardinal, it can make some games nearly unplayable. That is why reviewers consider it a flaw. If you are going to do a proper review of the dpad, I think you should avoid personal bias and review it from the standpoint of the average gamer. If not that, at the very least you should not present as if your stance is the factual and objective truth, and at least say it is your opinion that rocking the dpad is to get diagonals is a desirable feature however others may see this as a flaw. It is a more professional presentation when you remain objective. A lot of the more amateur reviewers tend to constantly state opinion as fact, such as rubber membrane is better than microswitches for controller feel (and vise versa), and heavier controllers feel better than lighter controllers, and Dual Sense shape is better than Xbox shape. All of those things are personal and vary greatly depending on player preference. Over all you put so much work into your videos and provide so much data, that your channel provides a lot of value to viewers, but there is just a couple of hiccups I think you could iron out to improve. Objectivity is key to audience trust.
@@VKsChannelhey when you make your video can you please go in depth about the gyro and please check the deadzones of the right stick and left stick gyro in the setting the right stick currently has huge errors of 20 percent while left stick has error of almost 0.1 the apex 4 has this problem also except it’s a rectangle inside the inner deadzone and the Vader 4 pro is rectangle and not circular which effects the range of motion for the gyro in game
Hello great video again One problem I am facing with controller is that one where it mentions the controller is v1 or v2 even on the box. how did you know you when you were ordering that the one you are ordering is v2. This is creating a lot of confusion to me. Thanks for the great video about this.
Now it is close to the betop btp kp50a. Independend of the hardware changes, a lot they had could improve by firmware. Why not? I dont understand. Was the V1 a beta test? It looks like. And now manba fix the recorded problems of the community, but they didnt have still all fixed. My impression, Manba dont have enough experiences to develop a good controller with their own differeces. Thats reason why the controller looks like the betop. At the end , after the V1 I bought the betop. And it is, even compared to V2, still better. I'm waiting for the controller with touch control. We are already close. And eith touch input they could fix a lot of problems in the handling.
Mine came in a box not the one you have , it also had an outer sleve with pics and info advertising , how can I tell If I have v1 or v2 , thnx in advance
@@VKsChannel That's odd. A license is not required from Microsoft to produce any other compatible 3rd party hardware. There are a ton of 3rd party peripherals that work with the Microsoft OS on PCs - keyboard, mouse, especially monitors. You would think that a 3rd party would make their controller Xbox compatible regardless of what MS says.
Hi, can you help me? i just ordered manba one v2 on last december and i rarely use the controller. And today 2 feb 2025 when i tryna use it to play on my switch, i just noticed the LB button is not working. Do you have any suggestions for my problem?
The fact the refuse to label their V2 as such, whether that be with a new SKU, or label, will ensure that i NEVER buy one of their products. Because they are more interested in selling through their own old inventory, than providing the consumer with a quality product at face value. This also makes the market rife for scalpers selling grey market versions of the old V1 controller, marketed as as the new V2. Inexcusable for any brand not to label their product changes clearly and informatively.
@@VKsChannel it plays good on steam games but when I get on Xbox an wat to play cod 6 the controller doesn't work. Can u do a video or walk me thru it if u can, would appreciate it very much,
Too bad they did not fix the cutout lettering on the face buttons. On the surface it does not seem like a big deal, but I actually chewed up my thumb from some intense button mashing with this controller. I actually had a letter imprint on my thumb for while afterwards. LOL!!!
I think I had a one-off manba one v2. first, the left joystick was clicking, now nothing works on the whole controller. the display won't even come on. The dock won't even recognise it's sitting on it and my pc won't recognize it's even plugged in. It might be $70.00 down the drain. They keep repeating things and telling me to do things the prior support asked. Getting real sick of it. Damn japanese...guess they didn't learn their lesson when we hit them years ago. They are giving me the run around with it. I sent them a video of the clicking left joystick, they said it's normal. The fact it wouldn't hardly work on the left direction IS NOT normal.
@@LukeMalas you also need to remember that creators now have the option to screen comments for approval before they get posted. so on top of youtube censoring any little word they deem "wrong" there will be channels that wont let you see your comment until they decide. i guess too many people dont have thick skin these days lol
make sure not to remove the actual screen protector. ive had this controller for about 10 minutes and the screen is completely f***ed already. This is the worst plastic ive ever seen
they call this a v2..but i call it a trash, the cheap scratches collector plastic screen is a big fail, after a week using my controller look like a cheap old toy controller with those millions scratches all over the plastic...it is disgusting af !!! together with the useless dock without a usb A port they both belong to trash can
get the black version + screen protector, should be good. The white version with the see through plastic looks very tacky and gets scratched easy like you mention, black one doesnt have that problem
Wow.. a company that completely fixes a product, that's rare
This is an amazing company. They actually listened and completely improved their controller. Now I have a controller idea. Thanks Manba!
I asked Manba, and they told me they will only send the V2 from now on. Besides, you get a 10% discount, so you only pay 63$ for a ManbaOne.
About time they fix it. Now I’ll think about ordering one.
Have you ordered it? Are you satisfied with it?
Hidden Gem review channel?
Nice thorough, detailed and calm analysis. Well done and thank you for tge content.
Keep up the good work. 💜
DPAD is actually perfect now, when rocking the finger back and forth on just 1 side it shouldn't trigger diagonals, that's only okay for fighting games, for precision games you want the DPAD to avoid those false diagonals.
I disagree with that
Diagonals can be triggered by holding a single direction on multiple consoles from snes to the genesis n64 and even the gamecube so to me that is the standard
@@VKsChannel That applies to membranes, but not mechanical/dome switches, if we are to go back in time and compare with those, check out the PS Vita, GBA SP, DSI, and all these other consoles. Yes they aren't standalone controllers, the most comparable for those would probably be modern Xbox controllers but none of those share the proper feel of a Vita DPAD or similar.
@@CleanDesign_ being able to activate diagonals by holding on one direction means you can get a quicker response activating diagonal movement quicker and with less effort, also there is no space for hitting a "diagonal" button unless you have a circle D-Pad so yes activating diagonals easily is a must
and I have no idea what you are talking about, MOST first party controllers you can activate diagonals with a single direction and I have the original controllers as well
just to name a few that you can Snes,N64, Sega Genesis, Virtualboy, Gamecube, Ps3,Ps4,Ps5, New 3DS, Xbox one, Xbox Series,
if you play competitive games you will also lose commands due to the hard to press diagonals, and on a final note, the default gate for arcade sticks is a box, meaning that when you push down you just need to slide to the sides to get the diagonals, so the easy to hit diagonals mimics that range of accuracy
@@VKsChannel I agree that hard to press diagonals are a no go. But dpads that can activate diagonal while only pressing a cardinal direction are also a no go. Without a circle pad you simply press two cardinal directions at the same time to activate diagonals (for example down + right). This is why some controllers with over sized cross shaped Dpads are considered flawed, because it is hard to press two directions at once. On a proper cross dpad you can easily reach two cardinal directions at one and the diagonal input is instant, there is no delay. Not sure about the modern controllers you listed except for the PS4. The PS4 had two versions of its controller (one with the light at the top of the controller and one with the light on the front). They both had opposite dpad problems, one put out diagonals if you weren't dead center on a cardinal. The other had hard to press diagonals and accurate cardinals. Both versions got complaints from the FGC depending on the character type the player used. The PS1 and PS2 controller has neither of these issues. Diagonals came out easily by pressing two cardinals, and cardinals wouldn't trigger diagonals if they were the only button being pressed. This is much the same as the original NES controller, and in my experience with my SNES controllers (though there were revisions to this controller). For example in Contra on an NES controller, you can press down to duck and have no fear in a tense moment that you didn't put too much pressure to one side of the cardinal, as a diagonal input will cause you to stand up and walk forward, right into the bullet you were trying to avoid. Yet at the same time, on an NES controller you can easily press any of the four diagonals to aim your gun and shoot diagonally.
On the modern Nintendo Online NES controller they messed up the build and now cardinal directions can trigger diagonals, leading to complaints from many and online tutorials on how to fix the problem. Perhaps they were listening, because the SNES Nintendo Online controller that came out later seems to have greatly improved the dpad accuracy.
The Switch Pro controller is also widely panned for the accidental diagonals issue, so much so that there was a huge rumor going around that the Xeno Blade version of the controller had fixed the issue with a hardware revision. However pro gamer and Tetris enthusiast Chris Tang got his hands on the controller only to sadly report that the rumor was false and rocking a cardinal direction still output diagonals.
If you look around at other controller reviews from news sites and RUclips channels, you will see pretty much everyone that checks the dpad for accuracy, reports it as a negative or a flaw when a cardinal input can be rocked and trigger a diagonal. If you go through Amazon reviews for controllers you will find many one star reviews on a lot of 8bitdo's controllers complaining about diagonals coming out when pressing cardinals. Many RUclipsrs will pull up a controller test on PC and test the controller by pressing left and right repeatedly back and forth and if any other directions come out they will let the viewer know the dpad is not accurate.
There are no real world benefits to pressing a cardinal and getting a diagonal. If you want diagonal you press the input for diagonal. On the flip side, there are many real world issues that come up when getting a diagonal when you pressed a cardinal, it can make some games nearly unplayable. That is why reviewers consider it a flaw.
If you are going to do a proper review of the dpad, I think you should avoid personal bias and review it from the standpoint of the average gamer. If not that, at the very least you should not present as if your stance is the factual and objective truth, and at least say it is your opinion that rocking the dpad is to get diagonals is a desirable feature however others may see this as a flaw.
It is a more professional presentation when you remain objective. A lot of the more amateur reviewers tend to constantly state opinion as fact, such as rubber membrane is better than microswitches for controller feel (and vise versa), and heavier controllers feel better than lighter controllers, and Dual Sense shape is better than Xbox shape. All of those things are personal and vary greatly depending on player preference.
Over all you put so much work into your videos and provide so much data, that your channel provides a lot of value to viewers, but there is just a couple of hiccups I think you could iron out to improve. Objectivity is key to audience trust.
I ordered this today for 55 bucks. It apparears to be the v2 from the ad on amazon from the manba store. Cant wait to play it on my pc.
I am very happy with my EasySMX X10, but I might give this one a try, too.
Ok now im buying 4 of them .. lets go ..
This reminds me of Dreamcast controller ..
Lol it was kind of awesome to see a set of Mobapads on your switch.
These things are getting so competitive.
Great work! Waiting for the vader 4 pro review
Yes as soon as it arrives
It was delayed because of the customs
@@VKsChannelhey when you make your video can you please go in depth about the gyro and please check the deadzones of the right stick and left stick gyro in the setting the right stick currently has huge errors of 20 percent while left stick has error of almost 0.1 the apex 4 has this problem also except it’s a rectangle inside the inner deadzone and the Vader 4 pro is rectangle and not circular which effects the range of motion for the gyro in game
If this controller had 2 extra shoulder buttons, it would be perfect.
I need this bad thx for vid
Hello
great video again
One problem I am facing with controller is that one where it mentions the controller is v1 or v2 even on the box.
how did you know you when you were ordering that the one you are ordering is v2.
This is creating a lot of confusion to me.
Thanks for the great video about this.
That is the problem there is no way to deferentiate it from the V1
Only when you open it
I bought it just because they fixed the mayor problems
Now it is close to the betop btp kp50a. Independend of the hardware changes, a lot they had could improve by firmware. Why not? I dont understand. Was the V1 a beta test? It looks like. And now manba fix the recorded problems of the community, but they didnt have still all fixed. My impression, Manba dont have enough experiences to develop a good controller with their own differeces. Thats reason why the controller looks like the betop. At the end , after the V1 I bought the betop. And it is, even compared to V2, still better. I'm waiting for the controller with touch control. We are already close. And eith touch input they could fix a lot of problems in the handling.
It looks exactly like the beitong kunpeng 50😮
get them to add invert Y!
That’s a setting in almost every game ever so you should be fine
One of my leds flickering on red...can you let me know what rgb led packages they house....??😢
are you going to review the "machenike g5 pro v2" this is an upgrade from the other controller and the new easysmx x20 in the future ?
Not yet
One question: is the screen still on all the time while loading?
Just tested it and thankfully it turns off now!
@@VKsChannel Thanks for the answer!
Great vid. Can you remap keyboard keybinds if you play on PC?
Mine came in a box not the one you have , it also had an outer sleve with pics and info advertising , how can I tell If I have v1 or v2 , thnx in advance
If your buttons are mechanical you have a V2
@VKsChannel cool thnx , my buttons are the clicks type
What do you have on the sticks of the M6HD?
Does it still need 2 usb ports or did they integrate one into the charging dock ?
Yeah, you can do that.
It's curious that Manba controllers are not XBox compatible, but they still use the XABY button labels.
No other controller is compatible with xbox unless they get licensed from microsoft
They use the xbox layout because pc games uses the xbox layout
@@VKsChannel That's odd. A license is not required from Microsoft to produce any other compatible 3rd party hardware. There are a ton of 3rd party peripherals that work with the Microsoft OS on PCs - keyboard, mouse, especially monitors. You would think that a 3rd party would make their controller Xbox compatible regardless of what MS says.
this or Vader 4 Pro?
can you test the polling rate of this controller with the dongle ? thank you
If i would remove the layer on top of the dpad switches would it be louder or would it break ?
Are you going to the try the updated Apex 4? Has a 2000hz polling rate now
It's not updated, it's just one limited edition controller with 2000Hz.
The standard Apex 4 will still be 1000Hz.
Como saber cual es la v1 y la v2 ?
A creo que la v1 viene como en una caja plásticosa jaja y el v2 viene en una caja de cartón más bonito👽
Dose this one work for xbox series s?
Hey, I don’t wanna annoy you but is there a reason why they can’t send you the nyxi Warrior to review?
They are not sending it to brazil anymore so i wont be able to revirew it unless I personally purchase it
Hi, can you help me? i just ordered manba one v2 on last december and i rarely use the controller. And today 2 feb 2025 when i tryna use it to play on my switch, i just noticed the LB button is not working. Do you have any suggestions for my problem?
Btw i have tried reset to factory settings, but still didn't work
Does this controller have Impulse triggers? aka those tiny rumble motors embeded in the triggers of xbox controllers
Nope
I GOT STICKDRIFT AND ITS REALLY REALLY BAD HELP ME PLEASE
This vs vade 4 pro please
Vader 4 pro
Is it just mine or is the D-Pad really hard to push?
Do you have the v2 or v1
The dpad is hard on the v1
@@VKsChannel V2, did it ever break in or get easier to push down?
I heard it’s not the most comfortable controller.
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The fact the refuse to label their V2 as such, whether that be with a new SKU, or label, will ensure that i NEVER buy one of their products. Because they are more interested in selling through their own old inventory, than providing the consumer with a quality product at face value.
This also makes the market rife for scalpers selling grey market versions of the old V1 controller, marketed as as the new V2.
Inexcusable for any brand not to label their product changes clearly and informatively.
So very true
Can this controller be used with the lenovo legion go?
Yeah
@@VKsChannel it plays good on steam games but when I get on Xbox an wat to play cod 6 the controller doesn't work. Can u do a video or walk me thru it if u can, would appreciate it very much,
What's the polling rate wireless?
250HZ
@@VKsChannel Thanks
Is it bad for 250?@@VKsChannel
Too bad they did not fix the cutout lettering on the face buttons. On the surface it does not seem like a big deal, but I actually chewed up my thumb from some intense button mashing with this controller. I actually had a letter imprint on my thumb for while afterwards. LOL!!!
I think I had a one-off manba one v2. first, the left joystick was clicking, now nothing works on the whole controller. the display won't even come on. The dock won't even recognise it's sitting on it and my pc won't recognize it's even plugged in. It might be $70.00 down the drain. They keep repeating things and telling me to do things the prior support asked. Getting real sick of it. Damn japanese...guess they didn't learn their lesson when we hit them years ago. They are giving me the run around with it. I sent them a video of the clicking left joystick, they said it's normal. The fact it wouldn't hardly work on the left direction IS NOT normal.
no bro there in cons in V2
great video, will u review vader 4 pro thank you
Yes as soon as it arrives
It was delayed because of the customs
@@VKsChannel thank you!
Cheap transparent plastic and silver finish are still meh for me, same thing as with Apex 4 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Which is better idk which to get
It's not Mamba, it's Manba :-)
Thanks!
@@VKsChannel Great review, BTW. Best controller reviews on RUclips. Channel subscribed.
can this controller wake up the Nintendo switch?
Yes
Test. If someone sees this, pls comment something
Ok wtf, now suddenly comments started to work again. It didn't let me post nothing till now.
@@LukeMalas you also need to remember that creators now have the option to screen comments for approval before they get posted. so on top of youtube censoring any little word they deem "wrong" there will be channels that wont let you see your comment until they decide. i guess too many people dont have thick skin these days lol
Why did they make the letter colors on the buttons so damn hard to see? What have they been smoking while making that choice?
I wish they would maje the screen more useful, like for DS emulation
I hate how these controllers never come with a carrying case or at least an official carrying case that you can buy separately.
make sure not to remove the actual screen protector. ive had this controller for about 10 minutes and the screen is completely f***ed already. This is the worst plastic ive ever seen
they call this a v2..but i call it a trash, the cheap scratches collector plastic screen is a big fail, after a week using my controller look like a cheap old toy controller with those millions scratches all over the plastic...it is disgusting af !!! together with the useless dock without a usb A port they both belong to trash can
get the black version + screen protector, should be good. The white version with the see through plastic looks very tacky and gets scratched easy like you mention, black one doesnt have that problem