LET'S ARGUE: TikTok Destroyed Steve Lacy
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2022
- Other topics include whether or not we'll run out of music to make, and Avenged Sevenfold being underrated.
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If only Steve Lacy promoted a slick, minimalist wallet that fits right in your pockets on TikTok, he wouldn't have been ruined.
If only😔
Hold your horses now, you mean to tell me that the wallet is not only slick AND minimalist but also fits right in my very own front pocket? By the gods you must be lying, such an item would surely ruin me financially. If only there was a special code of sorts I could use to save some money with this transaction.
@@clementinelives that was funny
@Silk Sonic He outgrew it
@@robf1557 would you believe you if i told you can in fact use the code MELON to get 10% off of your Ridge Wallet purchase?
Now steve lacy must turn to experimental hip hop to destroy tiktok
steve lacy x peggy when
Waiting for that new Steve Lacy track produced by Quelle Chris with a Pink Siifu feature
I’d like to see some Steve Lacy shoegaze/noisepop
i’d argue that experimental hip hop is one of the most popular genres of music on tiktok
FR
I think the steve lacy thing is in reference to how the crowds on his recent tour only really knew that part of bad habit. “Blowing up” on tik tok means that a ten second snippet of one of your songs blew up, not necessarily you as an artist overall. It’s worse than getting a lot of casual fans, because even casual fans know a couple songs in full. It’s gotta be seriously disheartening for every crowd on your tour to only sing along to like 10 seconds of your entire set.
Edit: I’m aware it’s not every single show where this happens. I’ve just seen a few videos of audiences going totally silent after the “i wish i knew” part of the song because nobody knew the rest of it.
Pretty much. One hit wonder become one hit wonder's by one of the song. Nothing more
but that's no way every crowd.
@@melteddarkchocolate000 Steve isn’t a one hit wonder tho
La gave him the love he deserves last night
The thing is that it’s not been every show. In fact I’d argue that there were many more shows like the one I was at in Philly where literally everyone knew all the lyrics to all the songs. A few videos of people not knowing the lyrics blew up but I seriously doubt that’s how most shows looked; tickets were expensive as shit I don’t think too many people are paying 200+ to see someone that they know 1/4th of a song of.
Went to a Thundercat concert in LA, this dude was wasted and ironic as it is, he was cheering while Thundercat was talking about how he was sober ever since Mac Miller's passing. most surreal thing I've seen was when he got kicked out by security and front row attendees for causing a ruckus. dude was literally grabbed by his crotch and thrown over the fence. all while Thundercat is playing his crazy jazz solos looking at the dude getting tossed over by a crowd. the drunk dude's buddy was shaking his head in disappointment after he got kicked.
We've all been that guy's buddy at least one time in our lives.
At least he got thrown out. I’ve been to concerts where nobody did anything about assholes like that so they were just free to completely ruin the entire show.
I had a similar experience a couple months ago when he came to my city, Thundercat is literally on stage talking about his struggles with alcoholism and losing dear friends and this one dude the entire show, whenever there was a quiet moment, kept yelling “OH SHIET ITS X!!!! PLAY OHHHH SHIET ITS XXXXXX” honestly was really disrespectful, he did it the WHOLE time
That tik tok about them changes where the dude walks from a low angle IS JUST COPYING A TOP COMMENT it’s irritating I hope yk what I mean.
This reads like a copy pasta
I never liked the whole "will we eventually run out of art to make?" question because no individual human is ever going to reach the point where they've consumed all art to the point where they are incapable of thinking of anything valuable that hasn't already been done.
Definitely. I feel like it’s one of those arguments that have been around forever.
There will always be new art to make!
As a music theory nerd, we're nowhere close.
90% of music uses the same time signature for start, odd phrase lengths are rare too, microtonality gives new possibilities and tuplets are still underexplored by most music.
Thatsart!
what are tuplets@@bazookaman1353
Wonder if the Steve Lacy question was more in reference to what he said referring to people just wanting to hear the 1 song at concerts.
To me, it seemed obvious that it was.
1. Bad Habits
2. Bad Habits (Sped Up)
3. Bad Habits (Dababy Remix)
4. Bad Habits (EDM Remix)
5. Bad Habits (A Capella)
He's gonna end up like radiohead with creep. Because of tik tok he'll give up on playing that song for a decade at the least.
Yeah Melon is so insanely online I'm surprised he missed that.
@@ericw6923 The last sentence reminds me of when Nirvana stopped performing _"Teen Spirit"_ in later concerts because it overshadowed their other songs. I wouldn't blame Steve if he did something like that. It will weed out the tiktok fans, leaving only new and old fans to enjoy.
I don't mind people having a couple drinks at concerts, but it SUCKS when people drink to the point of getting messy where it compromises the concert experiences of those around them. Falling onto others repeatedly, starting fights/saying rude things they probably wouldn't have dared to if they were sober, spilling their drinks on others, it's distracting at best and dangerous at worst.
Double edged sword, can’t have one without the other. Same thing with weed, makes the music sound better but the crowd is lethargic bc of weed. Don’t like it? Don’t go to concerts.
Back in 2012 I saw MGMT live at a music festival. It was pretty crowded at the beginning and I was pretty far away from the stage, but after they played Electric Feel half of the people left, and half of what was left was gone after Kids. By the end, I was right at the front jamming to their longest tracks in a very scattered group of people. I only knew like 4 or 5 songs by them at the time, and the concert actually showed me they had versatility and range!
The Steve Lacy situation might be a more extreme version of this, but there's always gonna be casual listeners and people who are willing to stick for every song. I imagine in the end, music artists have to accept this fact and great ones know not to get destroyed by it.
I’m confused. Why did everyone leave after they played Kids and Electric Feel?
@@cbfire9987 Cause those were their 2 biggest songs and the rest of the crowd probably didn’t know their other songs so they just left
@@Celticsfor18th ohhhh they left when the songs were done I see. I was thinking they left like “ah they’re playing this bullshit song Electric Feel again? I’m out of here now.”
Let's Argue, did I destroy my Parent's Marriage like they said? Thanks Mr.Tano
You actually did.
not much room for argument there, sadly.
Yes
Let’s Agree
Light No to a Strong Yes
let’s agree: fantano should’ve made the vegan cookies for drake
Drake got some bomb ass vegan recipes tho
thenerdykid2001??? 😮😮
Let's Agree: Anthony's GKMC shirt goes hard
I was about to sayyyyyyy - where can I get that shirt
I just commented something similar before seeing this: I've spent 30 minutes looking for this shirt now, I'll link it here if anything comes up.
@@T1m1th lmk plsss
Such a cool design lmk if you guys find anything
I definitely need this shirt, spent the last hour can't find it 💀
The Steve Lacy situation is nothing new. Even Nirvana had a song about their new fans who would go to a Nirvana show but didn't pay attention to the meaning of their songs
Rating or reflecting on an album based on first impressions kinda does the music a disservice. Unless you're able to unpack all the sonic and lyrical nuances of a record in one sitting, sometimes you gotta listen to an album more than once to fully appreciate it.
Generally when music is really groundbreaking it's not gonna hit with someone on the first couple listens because your mind needs to open up to what's being put forward. Liking something first listen usually just means it's accessible, which is tangential to whether it's actually high quality or not.
@@transientland9932 This was my exact experience with Quadeca's newest album. I was a bit put off by all of the raving reviews it was getting, and upon first listen, I came away with a "Yeah, it was okay I guess."
But some of the songs stuck in my head, and I decided to listen to the album again. It really did it for me the second time. And I'm finding myself listening to it 2-3 times a day. What he offers on that album just keeps on giving.
Yeah i remember around the time Scorpion dropped everyone was complaining that it was so long they couldn’t listen to it more than once before putting out their review. not to defend drake’s “artistic integrity” but like maybe give it a few rotations and let your review come out later in the weekend or on Monday or the next week then bro. The album was too long to be as boring as it was but I’d have rather heard that from someone who listened more than once than from someone frantically staying up til 2am listening and then writing their thoughts on it at 9am.
people don't universally consume and rate music in a definitive, monumental way. many people rate and write about music as a way to express their transient experiences with it and use it as a flexible and dynamic form of expression. to say that doing so is a disservice is to imply that any single person's experience with a record or a random aggregate of them is what defines the worth of it, turning it into an absolute quantification of quality that feels way more disrespectful to the soul of the artform than someone giving a rating on first listen ever could be
@@georgiaginsburg734 I agree that the utility of music and it's purpose is different from everyone and I'm not invalidating that. The original tweet Fantano replied to implies that listening an album more than once before collating your overall thoughts about it is invalid. I could've worded my original comment differently but basically if you're gonna be reviewing an album (to be published in an article or as an RYM review), it's usually good to listen to it a few more times because you're likely going to get a different experience from it after multiple listens. That being said, if you like/dislike an album outright from first listen then more power to you.
If we can make an entire _genre_ of songs out of Megalovania, we're never running out of music.
No understanding of infinity.
Also the average person just wants to listen to what they already like lol. They don't care if it's the same musical concepts over and over. Every 5 mins someone writes another song with I-V-vi-IV chord progression.
Is that the undertail song
@@t_ylr i’d listen to that iv v iii vi progression forever
@@user-xt7zs7tn1c yeah it’s from Undertale, it’s actually a really good boss fight too.
Let’s Argue: Tony is afraid to review Gizztober because they were too good and he’s worried everybody else will become insecure.
As soon as he said he was going to "do all 3 of them in 1 video" I immediately thought "well that video is never coming out" and I've been right so far.
Bruh I want those reviews so baddddd I want to go to war in the comment section
Don’t… don’t call him tony
@Faith Brean it’s just not right. Like I get it’s a nick name but imagine like Captain America Civil war and caps like “don’t do this Anthony” 💀
Dark Red is still a banger tho, TikTok will never take that away from us
What about Ryd though no one talks about Ryd
I think Apollo XXI is super underrated
@@cyexe who’s nobody
Has melon seen the clip of the Steve Lacy concert where the crowd only knew the part of Bad Habit that was popular on Tiktok and no one knew the next part? The first question might have been a reference to that video.
Two drinks makes me a normalish person who can stand to be in a crowded space. Definitely don't get blasted and annoy Agent Orange before puking everywhere. (My apologies to the 2006/7 crew at Mercy Lounge, Nashville)
Let's Argue: Melon's shirt is a banger and he should leave a link to where he bought it.
Yes
anthony, when u were talking about music lasting as long as time you could say that music is so integrated into so many cultures and as cultures keeps evolving music is still gonna be a huge part of it and of life itself
Hot take: Fantano has been choosing the most boring tweets for this series for the past few months
Cold as shit
Bro is starving for racism
Has he been choosing the most boring? Or are they boring the begin with
Fantano fans are boring, be the change you want to see in the world
damn you din't have to be cold
To the question about repeating an album over and over, I remember hearing schlangenheim once and I didn’t get it at all and tried so hard for like 2-3 listens. Gave up but came back during Cavalcade, and it’s now one of my most repeated albums in my rotation. Sometimes just trying to understand a well received album will open you up to so much more once those dots connect. Remember, it’s supposed to be fun not a competition!
Why would anyone listen to something they don't enjoy though
@@hansolo631 to get into it and get their ears comforted to a new interesting sound
@@hansolo631 like Fantano said in the video, some people are passionate fans of all music. It’s not too crazy for someone to try to understand why a band, album, or song is gaining traction or popularity. Another good example would be most people listening to XiuXiu, DG, Lil Ugly Mane, and generally hardcore punk albums for the first time.
I think the example of exile on main st. needing to be listened to like 10 times before you love it is kind of true. I had to enjoy Rolling Stones during my teens then expect exile to be great for 3 years before I started to enjoy it the whole way through, and kind of loving it. I also think sound opinions did great in hyping it up in their "classic album dissection". I think many double albums run in this theme. The Wall has a little bit of this compared tonthe rest of the 4 great p floyd albums. Fantano gave physical graffiti a 10 recently and that has grown on me from a 6,5 to a 9 for like 7 years as well.
First time I listened to 1000 gecs i vocally hated it. But a friend convinced me to try it again and now it's one of my favorites and immediately gets me hyped like nothing else.
god that last take is so braindead. literally all of my favourite albums i’ve been iffy on with the first listen, and only over time have they become my favourites. imo any worthwhile piece of art requires you to sit with it and really absorb it, which you just can’t fully do over one singular listen of an album
I completely agree. You can’t grasp an album in one listen, true art requires multiple listens to get a true feeling for it. A great record is enjoyed in those first few listens but also grows even better as you listen to it more over time
Deftones in a nutshell for me
Yep, it’s the opinion of someone with a very narrow minded view of music and probably goes around calling albums “shit” because their mind wasn’t blown half way through their first listen. Most likely they only like stuff that makes think “damn bruh that goes hard” right away no matter how generic it may be.
I liked this edition of the series. The questions were not dumb and were mostly about the listening experience. These kind of edititions I was looking for in a long time.
Some was dumb , just like your comment
Just realized Melon's wearing a GKMC shirt, that's sick. Where can I get one?
Of him wearing the shirt or the shirt
@@8a6homet-beightysix60 where da melon store to purchase more fantanos
Good album grows on you. Sometimes at first listen, youre on the fence but u kept going back trying to make sense of it then, it clicked at a certain point. If the albums bad I wouldn’t even go back. There are albums where i kinda liked and it took me like monthhsss to actually be like: wait this is actually the best album ever
then theres those albums that click multiple times just when you think it cant get any better it gets better and your brain falls out your ear
With some albums you can tell that it'll require more time to fully grasp than others , i think a first listen should at least intrigued you even if you didn't fully enjoy it, some albums just go by in a blur on first listens
Also: most music that hits instantly gets old just as fast
Listening to an album more than like 2 times means youre forcing yourself to like it? That makes no sense, why would anyone would waste their time like that? Im more of a movie buff so if i compare to my favorite movies, i've one one 4 times and I still find hidden secrets in the movie that make me like it even more. You grow constantly and havw different viewpoints every year. Its actually important to revisit past works of art and naturally start either appreciating or hating after a certain time
Hey thanks for responding to me Melon man! I just wanna say, I wasn't really going for what you took from my Avenged Sevenfold take, I was mostly just using Buttrock as a genre description, not an insult. Kinda sucks you took it the wrong way and focused on that, but nice to finally be in one of these anyway. I stand by my take that they're actually pretty good.
They definitely are. I havent listened to their whole discography, but from their self titled and Nightmare alone its quite clear they have talent
They really are more of a classic heavy metal kind of band then butt rock so I would have probably not mentioned that or I would've been like ,"even though buttrock fans like them, I don't see why they get lumped in with buttrock bands when they're not one". City Of Evil is still great to this day
@@creepydinky5671 Yeah it was a blunder on my part. I'm not a huge fan, but I know they play with a lot of those bands so I was just kinda describing the scene they were in. Maybe everyone who is more knowledgeable about the band should try and get him to respond to a similar point.
They have some real progressive tendencies that make them stand out from other "Buttrock" bands. Super underappreciated
Yeah idk why he focused so much on the use of the word "butt rock" instead of his opinions of their songwriting, performances, etc. I've always wanted to hear his opinions on A7X since they are one of my favorite bands but we didn't really get anything meaningful here. Syn and the Rev are both iconic on their respective instruments and to not even mention them because you're busy dismissing the band as buttrock is such a disservice.
one of my favourite albums of all time (ceschi's broken bone ballads) made zero sense to me the first time i listened to it. i moved on with zero guilt. but then i was drawn back for some reason, and it still took me a dozen or so listens before i understood the sound. i get not wanting to "force enjoyment" of any art, but trust it can be entirely genuine, and as rewarding as any other experience, to reconsider and find new details to appreciate.
Imagine melon telling people not to get super drunk well actively double fisting tequila
Fantano follows the straightedge lifestyle so he’s a sober melon
On the listening multiple times thing, Devin Townsend is a good example of an artist that I typically take a couple listens to like when it's his less heavy stuff. His new album took a couple listens for me to get on board, on first listen I didn't really get it, but Devy is my favorite artist, so I gave it another shot, and I absolutely adore it
I have thought a lot about the possibility of exhausting all potentially unique ideas, and there's just no way. Every idea can be recombined with other ideas in novel ways, in novel contexts, etc. If anything this idea, when thought out all the way, reinforces the notion that the best music is more than just the sum of its parts on paper. That's where the individual expression comes into play.
honestly A7X does go hard tho, i used to be a big fan but it still hits hard when their tunes come on shuffle. it’s probably nostalgia bc i remember playing COD and vibing with avenged lmaoo
Yeah, it's nostalgia. I would never have gotten into A7X if I first listened to them after the age of 18.
Part nostalgia but they have chops. I still enjoy their best tracks for sure
@@RLSteffler nothing hits harder sometimes than the breakdown in Buried Alive!!!
waking the fallen goes hard, anything after self titled is just butt rock
@@xxx_donvanvliet_xxx exactly. 2003-2007 era still holds up really well
Some of my absolute favorite albums and artists took multiple listens to start to appreciate and understand, like animal collective. Same thing with flavors. Used to not really dig onions, mushrooms, parsley and cilantro, but now those are some of my favorite flavors.
Blinded in chains by A7X is a pretty distinct sounding song that sets them apart or song including the drummer's proficiency and the guitarist's melodic solos with the thirds harmonies
It kinda sucks that anytime someone is able to grab Anthony's attention and potentially give a good defence for them, they immediately handicap themselves by having the most stupid takes possible.
I can't stand their singer's whiney, nasally voice. He's the weak link in what is otherwise a talented metal band
@@vinceeager8553 I can definitely see that argument. I personally don't mind him, but I can say there are some songs (especially in their early stuff) where it is a bit jarring.
Sounds like every other song on that album. As a former a7x fan, the only "original" sounding music they put out was A Little Piece of Heaven, but even then most of the Rev's original music (like his side project) was just ripping off Danny Elfman/Oingo Boingo.
@@Guymanbot97 Got me there, I should have just omitted the buttmetal thing and just posted the main point. Maybe I'll just keep posting it without that till he responds again lol.
From what I've seen of Steve lacy and some from other artists tik tok allows for parts of a single song to get super popular and outside of that people don't know anything. It's weird when huge chunks of a crowd only know a chorus
If an artist didn’t release a song…there’s usually a good reason they didn’t release it. Posthumous stuff is usually almost always bad or just meh. There’s a reason they were shelved
Usually yeah or it was just unfinished so when they release it it's not fully realized
I mean Xscape is a terrific MJ album
Sometimes they didnt like it but it doesnt mean is not good.
Usually almost always...
Thank you OJ
Idk getting slipped before an event has always helped me but other ppl can't handle that or have a different way of remembering/enjoying things. I've noticed that I have a more vivid experience with certain events while being pretty much floored.
i don’t think steve lacy was ready to blow up like that and i think it shows, i hope he’s doing well
Steve Lacy has already been big LOL gtfo
@@sayomom bruh wdym
he went from not being in the mainstream at all to having a number one single
@@sayomom he was big not mainstream , he's mainstream now
Liked your explanation and points made on the whole “will music still be made in the future” thing.
i love watching these and seeing my opinions parroted back to me
Conversely, I've hard albums I really loved at first, but didn't hold up on repeated listens.
That column on the right is the clear winner. So many banger business email cliches in there that hit you with a twang of anxiety, guilt, anger, and a general hatred & contempt for everything & everyone!
Anthony, we are waiting for you to plug those funky lil album art shirts you’ve been wearing. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THEM??
I'd say I listened to many Steely Dan albums as a teen but now I'm in my 30's I like practically every one of their songs. Hated it at first but now one of my fav bands ever.
I first heard about Steve at the Internet’s Palace/curse song when it came out, I liked his aesthetics
After that, I really liked his projects. Steve Lacy’s demo’s project made me a really big fan of him and I constantly played songs like Ryd, Some and Thangs
And it really got me into the chill/R&B hip hop /soul
Personally, I didn’t really like the Apollo XXI project except for a few nice songs
Then, when The Lo-Fi’s came I started listening a lot more to him, I think that this project is so underrated and a lot of people haven’t even heard the all album, but there are some hidden gems in there. When the first singles off Gemini rights came {mercury, then (bad habit 😢), (Sunshine 😍😍) } I got back to consistently play his new music + old music Steve Lacys Gemini rights project is nice but because he got so popular off TikTok because of the bad habit song personally I really got disappointed and now, even though I really like his songs I listen to him less, it is disappointed me that all of my friends didn’t like him when I told them about him like 2-3 years ago and now they be like his day one fan😢
I too listen to all his projects I loved Apollo and lofis
"Do not drink at concerts" is such a "i've only gone to big venues" take. I cannot even fathom going to a local punk show without getting some degree of drunk before, during or after. House shows too. Lets you loosen up enough to have fun and enjoy the vibe.
Yeah, it screams 14 year old at their first arena show.
Yeah but eventually you grow through that and realize you don't need beer to enjoy the music and socialize
@@FrozenDairyProducts Someone hasn't met punks.
@@FrozenDairyProducts everyone is different. I don’t need booze to enjoy music. But I’m cool with other people getting down however they wish.
What? I can't speak about the punk scene (although an activity that REQUIRES you to get drunk isn't healthy in general), but I love dancing and I can assure you that, once you let go of the inhibition, maybe start to learn a couple of moves, dance events arr way more fun sober (or maybe a little tipsy, but definitely not drunk).
Definitely agree with your take on the last one. The first time I listened to The Black Parade by MCR, I absolutely hated the song 'Mama'. I did not get it. Fucking hated that track. But then I went and saw them perform it live during the US tour for that record and it was the best song they played that night. Blew me away. I love that fuckin' track and have ever since then.
As far as listening to a record 3+ times to call it perfect, for me it depends all about headspace. Sure, I generally know first listen whether or not I like an album or artist, but I won't call it "perfect" until multiple listens. And even then, I have to be in a headspace where I completely get and understand the record.
On the last take: one thing I've noticed is that there is some music that is made to grow on you and takes into consideration that you may be attempting to memorize it (Meshuggah comes to mind) and they are able to play upon that, and ultimately relistens can be more rewarding. Also, there are certain artists and albums that took me quite a while to understand, because I am always growing and changing as a listener (example, it took me months to get into Radiohead fully)
TikTok did not destroy anything he just got popular in the mainstream. More concert goers are going to be the general public that will have less respect for his privacy. It’s been happening for years long before the internet. Nirvana was a big example.
the thing with listening to an album more than once: Does that person know you can also just listen to an. album u think is good and the more u listem to it you like it less and less?
Honestly the Steve lacy thing has my head hurting, I hate that people went to the concert not knowing the songs that’s sum dumb shii. But I’m happy he’s getting more recognition he deserves it.Glad to say I been here 😩
Some shows can only be tolerated while intoxicated xD also just had to say this, your mustache is looking damn fine in this vid Anthony. Very good.
Hey Anthony.
I have a question. What kind of theories do you like when thinking about expression and critique of aesthetics. I would like to hear your thoughts about critique and how we as humans can justify expressions of aesthetics and taste in general. If you have some, I would also like some book recommandations that you look to for inspiration in your field.
"Yeah i don’t vibe with this dumbass take" is my favorite Fantano quote
It takes multiple listens for me to even piece together what it’s all about. Hell, sometimes you may even realise what specific lyrics are after multiple listens
fantano should play the screen shot riff for the next let's argue
LETS ARGUE: WE NEED MORE LETS ARGUES
let’s agree more like
Lol I got drunk at the Earl concert. Sucks cuz I don’t remember much of it and I was really looking forward to it
i feel like earl concerts r the safest ones to get drunk at lol
How drunk? Everyone kinda means something different by that. If you had 15 beers then yeah no concert is going to stay in your head
it’s crazy that we’re discussing over-drinking bc I just got out of rehab!
Drink again. Nothing and no one will ever make you happy like the warmth of alcohol. You will never obtain true happiness by being sober. Pick up the bottle and start drinking. Now.
@@rileytrawick18 I was on opioids lol
@@rileytrawick18 but thank u anyways!
@@rileytrawick18 I can’t believe this is a real comment
@@JackieCracky56 don’t
So many of my favorite albums OAT I didn’t love until I relistened a few times
getting pet sounds took me more than 3 listens and now its my fave album
I NEED that GKMC shirt. At least I think that that is what it is 😂.
I've wondered that bit about whether listening to an album multiple times is forcing it or not. I've settled very easily that it isn't forced on just the fact that I hated some songs on great albums that would then become my favorites on the next listen through. No need to even mention appreciating in depth aspects.
I agree I hated hold my liquor on my first listen but over time I began to really love the song
I think that person didnt call A7X buttmetal as an insult but rather just used the term because it’s kind’ve turning into an accepted genre label… I enjoy lots of buttrock bands and still refer to them as such because they’re commonly grouped that way. Felt like a very cop out response to their comment lol
That was me! And yeah I was thinking of it more as a name for I guess, the genre than anything else. Nice to be included still I guess lol
Anthony's ultimately a shitposter and I can't blame him for going for the most shitposty answer since this series isn't very serious in the first place, but I do agree that I would've liked him to go more in-depth on his thoughts on their sound. I don't love everything they put out but their self-titled album is one I really love due to the way they experimented with pop production techniques as well as very different musical ideas in general.
Getting him to say anything meaningful about mainstream metal is like pulling teeth.
7:25 “I don’t vibe with this dumbass take” - Anthony Fantano
Dead
I'm not a huge A7X fan but I never understood the hate.
no one gets shitfaced at a concert because you have to meneaver through a large crowd just to get another drink
This was the best let’s argue in a while.
2:24 Reminds me of that Eric Andre Show episode where Hannibal tells Asa Akira that we have enough porn.
The point about how trying to convince someone that “this buttrock band sits miles above their peers” is kind of already admitting defeat is true in a sense, but i think the larger point is that A7X is unfairly lumped in with that style of metal despite not actually belonging to it. They have 1 butt rock album, it sucks ass, all of their fans think it sucks ass, and nearly every other album of theirs is pretty respectable and inoffensive mainstream metal. They even have some great albums in Nightmare, City of Evil, and The Stage.
This is sorta the point I was going for. I was hoping to hear some actual takes about their sound from Anthony, but he kinda only focused on that one part of my post.
Which album is disliked by the fans? I was disappointed by hail to the king
@@No1downy that’s the one. Most long time fans will call HTTK their worst by far
@@No1downy Hail to the King
@@sweetandsaltyminx7310 he hasn't gone into detail but he's said that they aren't that good and that there are way better bands out there
I sometimes have this thought when I think of music that it will get to the point where fart noises will unironically be put into mainstream music and nobody will question it.
The question about running out of music reminded me of it lol.
Ngl if someone asked if I wanted to check out the "Butt Rock Palace" I'd be pretty interested in seeing what it's about....but as funny as it would be, I'd be Hella disappointed to find out it's only an avenged sevenfold building
That listen to a album 3 times take is especially dumb for genres that contains rapping. In which it might take second or 3rd lessons to fully understand references or later visit a track while mire wise & be more aware on what's being referenced
Melons definitely wants to destroy Steve’s Lacy
I was front row with some friends at a concert, and a drunk woman stumbled up to my friend and proceded to throw up all over his shoes, and then she ran away. lol
6:55 I once got in the car and my gf at the time was playing the "Alone and Suffering" interlude from that album
I agree with Avenged Sevenfold being underrated/overlooked by music nerds and critics. Not all of their albums are great, no doubt. But City of Evil is a classic and more progressive than it's given credit for, the self-titled album is quite good, The Stage is great, and imo Nightmare is good as well. But especially City of Evil. And the band members are very technically skilled. Avenged Sevenfold is not butt rock. They got lumped in with that because of some of their additions and some of their fans. But they aren't butt rock. Maybe "Hail to the King comes sort of close to that", but they have lots of great stuff.
Butt rock is a lame term anyways. It's like saying mumble rap lmao
The relistening album statement I don’t agree with only because there have been albums that I initially hated the first time round but later on really enjoyed
love the albumstop tee :)
melon's t-shirt is the best thing I've seen today
Drink at a concert, but don’t bring drinks into the mosh pit
We need to get justice for butt rock, some of that ish hits hard
Then let's stop unironically refering to genres by their deragatory nicknames. I'm sure Thom Yorke would think it's really cute and charming that Twitter e-girls like his "male manipulator music".
Can't believe Melon used this whole video to talk about how much he loves Drake.
Didn't notice the shirt till halfway through 🔥🔥🔥
Does anyone know where I can get the shirt Melon is wearing? I love GKMC and would love to have one.
I never realized how much I missed bass intros
Sometimes I discover a new artist and it's love at first listen, and if they happen to be touring near me, I'll want to see them live.
Tiktok kids get too much hate. They're willing to discover new artists and legends alike, and they even support them in concerts. Easily the most open minded generation ever in terms of music. Sure, they have short attention spans, but as they grow, their taste will develop into its own, at least they will have experienced a wide variety of sounds. Are we going to judge them just for not knowing lyrics.
Tbh, I don't even like singing along like that. No artist's concert should strictly revolve around that (not saying Steve Lacy did btw), there are other ways to get energy from the crowd.
Reels/Shorts/Toks are where I heard of him, but I've also purchased a physical copy of the album.
I got so fucked up before Action Bronson came on stage all I remember of his set is a round silhouette walking on
Wooo more let’s argue!
like when I first listened to blond, I was kinda bored and really confused with its reception.....but I kept listening and by like my 5th to 6th relist3n.....it had become a part of my existence......so u decide whether im forcing or its just that it takes time to get used to change
A7X had a song with polka beats and oboes and clarinets and shit. very intellectual and underrated.
Anthony's shirt is freaking lit
i remember hearing c u girl when it came out and instantly becoming a fan, but it does really get on my nerves when people say i found it on tik tok when i dont have the fucking app
finally, it's been a while!!
No one's asking the most important question: where can I get Antoine's shirt?
Being labelled a Tik - Tok artist is a fate worse than death
Sure... wanna try both?
Nah i dont want steve lacy to die his music fire
@@YJ-eq3gd agreed tho tik tok destroys music it milks it to the point till it's unbearable
Yo Melon where'd you get that drawn good kid, m.A.A.d city shirt? Looks cool