I tried to read The Red Book while in the early recovery stage of psychosis. It was too difficult for me to read. Memories, Dreams, Reflections is the best book to start with when wishing to understand more of Jung! Great video :)
Why are you reading this while recovering from psycosis? Iis it therapeutic? Works like therapy? Communicates psychosis to the real word? Don't tell me jung is psychotic? Honestly, what's even psychosis at this point
as a German Biologist and Pythagorean - I bought the Red Book as soon as it became available. It is stunning to see - how in a dark Phase he still had the resources to Paint and write. Jung may have been Psychic in the sense - he sought the intimate contact wtih Freud - and broke it off - to prepare his own Path. His Vision of the great War and Atrocities emerging. His last remarks: “The World of Humanity hangs on a Thin Thread” - now 8 Billion People hang on an almost broken Thread. We may be the last Generation...
The more who do the work to become conscious the more there's a counter force to the collective unconscious and it's destructive expression through the masses.
It’s actually psychotherapy for crazy people. I would know, I have bipolar disorder, he speaks to the sick with imagery parable and allegory, to bring us back to ourselves, he’s a genius, he’s not psychotic, he just knows the language.
Coherence vs. incoherence is the main difference between a schizophrenic's theory and a sane person's theories. Still waiting for someone to lay out some coherent ideas from this Red Book. Not that I think Jung was insane. I think he was mostly a fraud.
Sadly the copy of the Red Book on this video (imitation leather edition) does NOT have any sketches, diagrams or pictures Jung drawn, only the text. To see them all one has to buy the Hard Cover version which will cost you a fortune
So dope you are also creating your very own The Red Book. I started producing crystal visions and inner dialogues that I have been recording in my notes and then faithfully a year later came across Liber Novus. It was the first book I read of Carl Jung. Now I'm reading more of his work, I can't get enough. I too am creating my very own Red Book. I am a new fan and subscriber to your awesome channel.
It’s hard to read other writers after Jung, you never quite get the mind blowing experience again. You have to read Erich Neumann, he was Jung’s favorite student and his work is amazing
@@ThusSpokeHaven Jung was dabbling with Neoplatonic theurgy, and countless syncretic practices; occult practices, if you will. Telling people to “write” their own red books is pointless if they don’t even know where to begin; these things can also be extremely dangerous for every individual. I’m speaking from experience.
CG Jung indeed was in a psychosis...all that was is contained in Liber Norvus...he came through his own dark night of the soul purified. I'm moved to tears at the implications of his work.
The journey to integration and rediscovery of our Soul is a journey to our center. Some practices help for some of the journey, but the deeper journey begins when we learn to follow a feeling. Thoughts and practices reach an end, but the capacity to feel more peace and more fullfillment is endless. Everyone should find a good teacher and a good path that fosters a deepening of awareness of the Self. The real journey and the real reward of seeking begins when we can safely shed all our expeditionary gear and proceed naked to our purest source.
Psycosis is One way to put it, But read also his "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" in which it becomes clear his Own distancing from Freud to reach more transendental knowledge. This is a man familiar with Alchemy and the Great Mysterys of Life. ❤️🔥👍🏽
It could be what we refer to as unlocking the minds eye, connection to the universal knowledge or just nothing but a way to read your and other humans behavior and the drive/ reasons we feelfor those actions… I think if people did this kind of thing then we would have a very different society and individuals. Probably in a positive and insightful way… I’d like to think it’s a way to journey into the introverted universe knowledge outside of us
I have a question about the edition of the book because it says that is a reader's edition and there's another which doesn't have the same description. Can someone please tell me what's the difference between the two editions?
if we dont learn from history politically and in our personal lives, it is our children who are destined to be next. the speech by goebells is a must see for understanding how crowd psychology operates and the professional liar on a podium. be careful of those who demonise others as a distraction to their own human rights abuses.
You could, but you may end up rereading it later on. I think Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a good comparison. It would depend on how familiar you are with his work and you have to be careful because some people have interpretations I personally think are wrong.
Loved your video on my favourite genius Carl Jung! In my experience: Vision State - Dreaming while Awake Dream State - Dreaming while Asleep They offer different information & experiences but they're related, like siblings.
7:20 Do you want to specify with what you mean with "we in the west live in a sickening culture" I do believe many, if most cultures are even more sickening, but I do definetly agree the west is not in a healthy state, and the pressure is very high. I've been raised without a god by christian raised parents. Im an atheist, but I do believe so many people not having a god, or having vastly different gods in the west causes huge problems. Thanks for the video
That’s a hefty question to answer in the comments section, but I think it comes down to a lack of a cohesive culture. I think that dooms any society to political polarization, radicalization, and the destruction of the middle class. Everything is set to be ripped in two, then further split into tribalistic chaos or else totalitarian take over. Nietzsche talks about how a society without myth is doomed. For us that was Christianity, but I think Jungian psychology provides a healthy alternative. A way to reintegrate Christian myth without some of the dangerous dogmatic side effects. Really a way to reintegrate Greek myth, any myth, and even to further create new myth (like Jung did in part for himself in the Red Book). It gives us insight into the importance religion, myth, and culture plays.
@@ThusSpokeHaven Alright. Just wanted to check whether you meant that or 'the sick racist sexist, homophobi etc west' Yeah I largely. Agree. If I had faith of anything working, I'd put my money on Jung too. (Have only listened to 2 of his books and some Peterson lectures ab him, but it sounds very promising!)
Jung was dabbling with Neoplatonic theurgy, and countless syncretic practices; occult practices, if you will. Telling people to “write” their own red books is pointless if they don’t even know where to begin; these things can also be extremely dangerous for every individual. I’m speaking from experience.
As dangerous as doing a tab of acid is. It all leads to the same place. The mind’s a beautiful an sometimes scary place. Can be dangerous for people prone to certain mental illnesses but helpful in the long run for most others. (In my opinion)
@@joeblackford Jung was also an idealist; he had his own variant of metaphysical idealism. So no, what I’m describing isn’t as simple as epiphenomena from a physicalist perspective; read Aion, his red book, and his black books. Jungian idealism is peppered throughout his entire corpus for a reason. The collective unconscious was Jung’s answer for high strangeness phenomena, and that also includes UAPs; he wrote a book on them. I however no longer believe in Jungian idealism because I’ve seen large sample sizes of data that go against the level of subjectivity of this idealistic ontology.
@@joeblackford You should also spend some time studying computer science, psychology, philosophy, read a book on logical fallacies, spend time in mathematical topology like high dimensional manifolds, and spend time listening to physicists who work in high energy physics; Nima arkani hamed is a good one to start with. I’m telling you to do this because it’ll help you with reasoning. Otherwise you’ll end up in the same camp as countless other people who torture reason itself. If you want to learn more about neuroscience then I suggest you look at Karl Friston. Start with this paper, “Cognitive Dynamics: From Attractors to Active Inference”. You should also debate all kinds of people to help you with reasoning, but not before reading a book on logical fallacies.
@@joeblackford RUclips censored my comment on my recommendations. If you choose to mess around with acid, and theurgy then don’t pay attention to the subjectivity of the symbolic imagery. Pay attention to the behavior of the phenomena, and the things stated; that does not mean that you should believe any of it.
It’s fun to see younger kids starting to become aware of this. There is so much more down this rabbit hole. Whoa. But really, what does a kid know ;) Have fun.
These video titles gaslighting the audience into choosing either/or are so off putting. I don't know when this trend began but you do a disservice to your community's intellect.
All the big black microphones jammed in everybody's mouths on youtube is archetypically "rich". You didn't tell us anything about what is of interest in the Red Book.
I don't think anyone can gatekeep understanding as if there is a direct correlation between it and age. Many people put in a considerable effort to waste consciousness their whole life long. Experience is the benefit of age yes, but how many will learn more from a small sip of experience than those who have had a barrel full of it? It depends upon how the individual has postured themselves towards learning. If with humility coupled with rigor, the experiences to come will prove beneficial, and much of true learning is to become more simple and childlike anyways.
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I have been looking for this video everywhere!!!
I tried to read The Red Book while in the early recovery stage of psychosis. It was too difficult for me to read. Memories, Dreams, Reflections is the best book to start with when wishing to understand more of Jung!
Great video :)
Can you explain to me what recovering from psychosis was like? That’s very fascinating.
Also, thank you
@@ThusSpokeHaven In order to explain it properly I would need to write you a book. You can start with watching a few videos on my channel
I also wanted to read this when i was recovering from psychosis and this is why i didnt read it!
@@Emily-vj4ul good choice 😂
Why are you reading this while recovering from psycosis? Iis it therapeutic? Works like therapy? Communicates psychosis to the real word? Don't tell me jung is psychotic? Honestly, what's even psychosis at this point
as a German Biologist and Pythagorean - I bought the Red Book as soon as it became available. It is stunning to see - how in a dark Phase he still had the resources to Paint and write. Jung may have been Psychic in the sense - he sought the intimate contact wtih Freud - and broke it off - to prepare his own Path. His Vision of the great War and Atrocities emerging. His last remarks: “The World of Humanity hangs on a Thin Thread” - now 8 Billion People hang on an almost broken Thread. We may be the last Generation...
The more who do the work to become conscious the more there's a counter force to the collective unconscious and it's destructive expression through the masses.
Do you read his books in German or English language? Thanks a lot
@@isicat5112 his Books in Jung - German
his talks in Jung Eng Lish
hilarious
It’s actually psychotherapy for crazy people. I would know, I have bipolar disorder, he speaks to the sick with imagery parable and allegory, to bring us back to ourselves, he’s a genius, he’s not psychotic, he just knows the language.
Coherence vs. incoherence is the main difference between a schizophrenic's theory and a sane person's theories. Still waiting for someone to lay out some coherent ideas from this Red Book. Not that I think Jung was insane. I think he was mostly a fraud.
Is there psychotherapy for sane people?
@@sigilpop if I ever met a 100 percent sane person they would probably scare the shit out of me
Thanks, enjoyed your introduction to Jung by such a personal exegesis of himself that he may have believed never to be made public.
im amazed and pleased someone so young has made such a brilliant video. well done man your perants must be very proud!
PArents
Sadly the copy of the Red Book on this video (imitation leather edition) does NOT have any sketches, diagrams or pictures Jung drawn, only the text. To see them all one has to buy the Hard Cover version which will cost you a fortune
or pictures Jung drew. Past tense of draw.
So dope you are also creating your very own The Red Book. I started producing crystal visions and inner dialogues that I have been recording in my notes and then faithfully a year later came across Liber Novus. It was the first book I read of Carl Jung. Now I'm reading more of his work, I can't get enough. I too am creating my very own Red Book. I am a new fan and subscriber to your awesome channel.
It’s hard to read other writers after Jung, you never quite get the mind blowing experience again. You have to read Erich Neumann, he was Jung’s favorite student and his work is amazing
@@ThusSpokeHaven Jung was dabbling with Neoplatonic theurgy, and countless syncretic practices; occult practices, if you will. Telling people to “write” their own red books is pointless if they don’t even know where to begin; these things can also be extremely dangerous for every individual. I’m speaking from experience.
CG Jung indeed was in a psychosis...all that was is contained in Liber Norvus...he came through his own dark night of the soul purified. I'm moved to tears at the implications of his work.
Wow the quality of your video truly stands out. Thank you for your work!
Great channel, great insights, summaries and content. You deserve a million subs.
Also, where's the update on your personal rebook?
Did you do it?
4:32 amazing quote, where is this from?
The journey to integration and rediscovery of our Soul is a journey to our center. Some practices help for some of the journey, but the deeper journey begins when we learn to follow a feeling. Thoughts and practices reach an end, but the capacity to feel more peace and more fullfillment is endless. Everyone should find a good teacher and a good path that fosters a deepening of awareness of the Self. The real journey and the real reward of seeking begins when we can safely shed all our expeditionary gear and proceed naked to our purest source.
Nice presentation.. does anyone find background music somehow obscuring the words of the presenter ? I guess it’s just with me ..
Fair critique, I’ll make a book Review without music and see how it feels
Psycosis is One way to put it, But read also his "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" in which it becomes clear his Own distancing from Freud to reach more transendental knowledge. This is a man familiar with Alchemy and the Great Mysterys of Life. ❤️🔥👍🏽
Great video/commentary. I’m mid way through this book. It’s caught early on, the line about creating one’s own cathedral is powerful. 🙏🏻
“The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.”
What's your fav Jung book beside this one?
Aion
I just got my copy in the mail today, thanks for the recommendation & excellent video.
I hope you like it!
Loving this style of video! Great review.
Thank you 🙏
So well put together, and yes relevant
Thanks
It could be what we refer to as unlocking the minds eye, connection to the universal knowledge or just nothing but a way to read your and other humans behavior and the drive/ reasons we feelfor those actions… I think if people did this kind of thing then we would have a very different society and individuals. Probably in a positive and insightful way… I’d like to think it’s a way to journey into the introverted universe knowledge outside of us
I have a question about the edition of the book because it says that is a reader's edition and there's another which doesn't have the same description. Can someone please tell me what's the difference between the two editions?
Love your Self like no one else
1:30 Stanley Kubrick fans - the blood gushing out of the elevator in The Shining most likely stands for "WAR!"
The double 👏 👏 … if I wasnt completely in my right brain, I’d think your trying to hypnotize us into staying awhile😊
I really like your manner of presenting a book and especially this video. Keep the good work! 🖤
Thanks
Great video dude.
if we dont learn from history politically and in our personal lives, it is our children who are destined to be next. the speech by goebells is a must see for understanding how crowd psychology operates and the professional liar on a podium. be careful of those who demonise others as a distraction to their own human rights abuses.
You should also remember the dream about the laast 50years of humanity. How old is social media?
I love seing your editing improve with every video
Can I read The Red Book if I am familiar with Jung's basic work but have never read any of his books?
You could, but you may end up rereading it later on. I think Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a good comparison. It would depend on how familiar you are with his work and you have to be careful because some people have interpretations I personally think are wrong.
Loved your video on my favourite genius Carl Jung!
In my experience:
Vision State - Dreaming while Awake
Dream State - Dreaming while Asleep
They offer different information & experiences but they're related, like siblings.
Thank you dear. Seems antidote to my long year of derepression. Please make other good medicine videos.
I like very much your ideas. But why did you used video clips of the so call insurrection?
It was the most visually pleasing footage of political possession, but I had no political intention. Antifa’s in the same boat as far as I’m concerned
@@ThusSpokeHaven thanks for your response.
Np, thanks for your compliment
What version did you end up buying to read?
The book I used in the thumbnail, the Sonu Shamdasani Readers edition
@@ThusSpokeHaven Does this version come with the illistrations?
Another great video really making me want to speed up my return
That’s been my sole purpose
I got C.G. Jung snake tree tattooed on my arm couple years ago, just liking it because somthing similar to the meaning
That’s sick, I’m looking at getting something similar
@@ThusSpokeHaven It’s crazy I had just subscribed to you yesterday and As you’re talking you came across the meaning of his art I got on my arm
*Synchronicity*
Thank you for this video!!
Thanks for the great video, full of references and clear enough to understand why its called as depth psychology
Excellent content man!! this is why tiktok is not a complete waste of time, you just gotta use it well and it'll show you the good stuff sometimes
7:20
Do you want to specify with what you mean with "we in the west live in a sickening culture"
I do believe many, if most cultures are even more sickening, but I do definetly agree the west is not in a healthy state, and the pressure is very high.
I've been raised without a god by christian raised parents. Im an atheist, but I do believe so many people not having a god, or having vastly different gods in the west causes huge problems.
Thanks for the video
That’s a hefty question to answer in the comments section, but I think it comes down to a lack of a cohesive culture. I think that dooms any society to political polarization, radicalization, and the destruction of the middle class. Everything is set to be ripped in two, then further split into tribalistic chaos or else totalitarian take over. Nietzsche talks about how a society without myth is doomed. For us that was Christianity, but I think Jungian psychology provides a healthy alternative. A way to reintegrate Christian myth without some of the dangerous dogmatic side effects. Really a way to reintegrate Greek myth, any myth, and even to further create new myth (like Jung did in part for himself in the Red Book). It gives us insight into the importance religion, myth, and culture plays.
@@ThusSpokeHaven Alright. Just wanted to check whether you meant that or 'the sick racist sexist, homophobi etc west' Yeah I largely. Agree. If I had faith of anything working, I'd put my money on Jung too. (Have only listened to 2 of his books and some Peterson lectures ab him, but it sounds very promising!)
Hey, that’s more than most
😂 all cultures of man are sickening.
Book review on The Prince?
That could be interesting
@@ThusSpokeHavenyes, please do this
Jung was dabbling with Neoplatonic theurgy, and countless syncretic practices; occult practices, if you will. Telling people to “write” their own red books is pointless if they don’t even know where to begin; these things can also be extremely dangerous for every individual. I’m speaking from experience.
As dangerous as doing a tab of acid is. It all leads to the same place. The mind’s a beautiful an sometimes scary place. Can be dangerous for people prone to certain mental illnesses but helpful in the long run for most others. (In my opinion)
@@joeblackford Jung was also an idealist; he had his own variant of metaphysical idealism. So no, what I’m describing isn’t as simple as epiphenomena from a physicalist perspective; read Aion, his red book, and his black books. Jungian idealism is peppered throughout his entire corpus for a reason. The collective unconscious was Jung’s answer for high strangeness phenomena, and that also includes UAPs; he wrote a book on them. I however no longer believe in Jungian idealism because I’ve seen large sample sizes of data that go against the level of subjectivity of this idealistic ontology.
@@joeblackford You should also spend some time studying computer science, psychology, philosophy, read a book on logical fallacies, spend time in mathematical topology like high dimensional manifolds, and spend time listening to physicists who work in high energy physics; Nima arkani hamed is a good one to start with. I’m telling you to do this because it’ll help you with reasoning. Otherwise you’ll end up in the same camp as countless other people who torture reason itself. If you want to learn more about neuroscience then I suggest you look at Karl Friston. Start with this paper, “Cognitive Dynamics: From Attractors to Active Inference”. You should also debate all kinds of people to help you with reasoning, but not before reading a book on logical fallacies.
@@joeblackford Don’t be seduced by poets.
@@joeblackford RUclips censored my comment on my recommendations. If you choose to mess around with acid, and theurgy then don’t pay attention to the subjectivity of the symbolic imagery. Pay attention to the behavior of the phenomena, and the things stated; that does not mean that you should believe any of it.
Amazing video
Interesting stuff.
Anyone other than Jung talking about Russians ending it all, and I may not be worried...
Who do u think should read this book dude ?
Please answer this
You
@@ThusSpokeHaven u mean anyone
Excellent analysis and you’re quite attractive
How can you do a review in just 10 minutes?
By not actually covering the content😂
What led you to the Red Book?
Idk
Most people who read it experiment with homosexual activities! At least once
Dude, young is literally trying to finish an h bomb
Wtf are you even talking about. JUNG, Carl G. Jung is dead.
What bomb? 😂
It’s fun to see younger kids starting to become aware of this. There is so much more down this rabbit hole. Whoa. But really, what does a kid know ;) Have fun.
These video titles gaslighting the audience into choosing either/or are so off putting. I don't know when this trend began but you do a disservice to your community's intellect.
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Yue word is dichotomy, the up and the down. It is reaching its peak mixing rn guys.
Dude literally shut up about individuaytion
Jung
Yes
I'm like in love with you
All the big black microphones jammed in everybody's mouths on youtube is archetypically "rich". You didn't tell us anything about what is of interest in the Red Book.
or...you could just join a church.
Hmmm I think you’re too young and inexperienced to understand Carl jung
You’re* and too*
@Coleman Calgary dude are you too old and too much of a failure to get that the way you see the world may not be the way the world is?
I stand corrected!
I don't think anyone can gatekeep understanding as if there is a direct correlation between it and age. Many people put in a considerable effort to waste consciousness their whole life long. Experience is the benefit of age yes, but how many will learn more from a small sip of experience than those who have had a barrel full of it? It depends upon how the individual has postured themselves towards learning. If with humility coupled with rigor, the experiences to come will prove beneficial, and much of true learning is to become more simple and childlike anyways.
You're about 25? What on earth do you know? 😂😂😂
Ahh yes. The ole appeal to ancient wisdom.
idiotic human being as usual,i see 🥰
Dude, great edits and articulation on this! Your channel will grow! Keep at it!
❤