*This montage has been spliced diced and edited to show best parts and crowd noise has been added-in. Editing can make any fight look slugfest. These guys are wide open and exposed. Casuals always wonder why they never see these types of amateurish face-to-face brawlers today? Well because they'd be obliterated that's why! Little Rocky looks awful and would be KO'd within seconds against today's 250 lb Super Heavyweights with 80" reach. When was the last time you saw a little 5' 9" 184 lb "Heavyweight" Champion with tiny 67" flyweight reach? These guys were toe-to-toe street fighters not boxers. I had no idea how bad boxing skills were back in the day. Modern Authentic Topnotch Super Heavyweights similar to 305 lb Miller, 285 lb Bakole, 285 lb Zhang, 285 lb Teremoana, 250 lb Kabayel, 250 lb Jalolov, 250 lb Parker, 240 lb Itauma, Usyk, Fury, Dubois, Ruiz etcetera would annihilate all these little light heavyweights within seconds and that's not debatable. Y'all Rocky fans are Moronic.*
@@sam-sy8jy Maybe that's why Mr. Dream was in Punch-Out, because Mike Tyson wishes he had that level of respect, but doesn't. It made it seem like the note that came with the Mike Tyson copies were meant for Rocky to say those things, not Mike.
“He doesn’t fight by the book, but I got hit by a library tonight” - Beautiful quote from (Joe Louis) one of the best boxers of all time in regards to his loss of Rocky Marciano.
@Jason A My man, Rocky is a great fighter, he’s a great champion. But if you use logic you can understand that Joe Louis was only fighting at that time because the country turned its back on him and he had to fight for money and came out of retirement to fight. It took Rocky 10 rounds to beat a washed up Joe Louis. Again if you use logic you understand a prime Joe Louis takes care of business. That’s why Rocky cried after the fight he knew what they did to Joe.🤔
I loved Rocky Marciano's response when someone asked him what he was thinking when Walcott knocked him down in their first fight: "Gee, this fellow hits hard. I might have to get up a couple of times before I knock him out."
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Why do so many judge Rocky Marciano unfairly? He only had 12 amateur bouts and didn't turn pro till 24 years of age. Using Ali as a comparison, he had 180 amateur fights and turned pro at 18. What Rocky accomplished is astonishing in my opinion.
Great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
Jersey Joe Walcott: He is a bum! Rocky Marciano: He's a very smart fighter, a durable fighter, a very great champion, I only hope that i could be as good as him! - A heart of a humble legend and a real GOAT
Muhammad Ali said, *"Even in his prime, Rocky Marciano had no chance with me. First thing, he is too little. Less than five foot ten to my six foot three inches. I’d overwhelm him. I’d lay on him in the clinches like a big old grizzly bear, and I’d smother his insides out. He was too small to reach me from outside. I’d jab him twenty to one. Rocky had a face that cut easily. Can you imagine what my stinging jab would do to those weak eyes? By round three, Rocky would look like he ran into a lawn mower. How could he beat me? No way, is how."* This was before three Frazier fights, three fights with Ken Norton, and the George Foreman proved Ali's hypothesis. Ali too big, Ali too fast, Ali too strong a puncher, Ali too fast a jab, and the bad news, Ali too tough, takes heavy punishment well. I'm afraid Ali was right. Marciano, while a formidable opponent, wouldn't have lasted long. Regardless of the script, Rocky seemed unable to pull his punches, whereas Ali could come within a fraction of an inch to making it look extremely real. Our problem was that Ali was getting madder and madder as Rocky thumped one hard shot after another off his ribs. By the end of the second day, Ali stopped the filming to have a word with Rocky, *"Rocky, you're supposed to be pulling those body shots. You aren't, and they're hurting my ribs. Now, if we're going to have a real fight, then you will not be able to land those shots without me peppering your face with hard left jabs and right hooks, and if you do by chance land a body shot, you're going to take back a stinging right hand to the nose to break it again. Now, do we play movie or do we play boxing?"* Marciano knew he was wrong. Secretly, he wanted to find out if Ali could take his best shots. To his surprise, he found that Ali could. End of the problem. If you don't take anything away from this chapter, let me reiterate, commit this to memory: *"Ali would have beat Marciano if they had ever really fought."* - Ferdie Pacheco *Source - Tales from the 5th Street Gym: Ali, the Dundees, and Miami's Golden Age of Boxing by Ferdie Pacheco 2010. Chapter 10, When Ali took on Marciano - The Fake Fight* *(( IN SUMMARY ALI CHALLENGES ROCKY AND ROCKY DECLINED...AND THAT'S NOT JUST A THEORY OR A FABRICATED LIE...IT'S A FACT!!!! ))*
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici All bullshit. His family never filed a defamation suit because they didn't feel the need to dignify the slimy roach of a writer with an acknowlegement of his trash.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici Yeah, I dont think family members can sue for defamation over someone that has been dead for 50 years. Especially someone that is a public figure. You happen to have a precedent to contradict that?
Muhammad Ali, *"Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard* (unrecognizable) *folks in Africa."* Cosell, *"But you think you could have beaten him too?"* Ali, *"Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination."* Cosell, *"You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."* Ali, *"Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"* Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. Why was the most important part removed?? *Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* *This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!* Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades! Truth is folks have removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano! Ali knew Marciano was deceased so he Lied when he said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier!* Y'all can order copies *@ Muhammad Ali Archival Television Audio Inc* just go to the *3rd page* to order 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore and Louis.. *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano." - Muhammad Ali, 02/15/76* (As more proof Dave Diles explains Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore in depth @ 0:15 or very beginning of *1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
*Quotes from Jersey Joe Walcott about Cassius Clay:* *“Cassius Clay is the best Heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”* *“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen."* Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated: *“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and moves too quickly for all of us old timers.”* Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said: *“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations."* *“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned."* *“All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance."* *“When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch."* *"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange. Now, when Dempsey was fighting, he stood right over a man he had floored and hit him as he was getting up."* (( Source - RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan )) In summary Jersey Joe has been around boxing for a long time and should know what he is talking about....should i believe you,, a biased casual,, or Jersey Joe ?
Marciano was on a “no-lose” mission to achieving greatness and he did so by simply out-working and out-conditioning all fighting foes. His work ethic was nothing short of remarkably consistent and disciplined: hours of running, gym work, sparring, push-ups and sit-ups, countless medicine-ball thumps to the gut. Marciano was committed to his training regimen. Rocky is also remembered and honored for his class as an individual, not only his 49-0. He never boasted or ridiculed his opponents. Regardless what others may think, Rocky Marciano was a great champion.
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton *HOW DID 178 TO 186 LB TINY CRUISER MARCIANO GO FROM 8TH PLACE DURING THE 1960's AND 1970's TO THE 4TH GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT IN 2024?* Because his ranking is determined by modern computer metric algorithms. Problem is this man-made program was coded to *EXCLUDE WEIGHT* from the equation. That's why 165 pound Heavyweight champion Bob Fitzsimmons from the 1800's is ranked ahead of giant Riddick Bowe who only had one loss! *AGE* is another code omitted from the metric.
Rocky ran at least 5 miles a day, 365, with several pounds of sand built into each leather combat boot designed by a local shoe mogul. When a fight was signed he'd run 8 to 10 miles, and usually the last week up it to 12 miles. He said, "if you train like i do, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." Rocky would also include running uphill forward, downhill backwards, repeat. I remember reading that quote several decades ago. Then out of nowhere i recently stumbled across an isolated vid and Rocky said, "this is where the road work pays off. If your up at the bust of dawn everyday while your training, running up and down hill, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." On top of that Rocky liked to walk another 5 to 10 miles in the late afternoon or evening. And he did all this in the hilly country around Grossinger's, where he trained. It was Rocky's obsession with conditioning that kept him training 365 days a year and this dedication gave him stamina never seen before in a fighter. It allowed him to set a blistering pace that no opponent could match.
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades: Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL* Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL* Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?* Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much! Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf. Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!! Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D. Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights, and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. To continue claiming he was the Greatest or even top 10 Greatest Heavyweight is absurd. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight *"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
Absolute insanity this man was hitting people so hard he was destroying their arms as they blocked punches. A true people's champ and underdog story. The boxing GOAT
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades: Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL* Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL* Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?* Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much! Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf. Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!! Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D. Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Even Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight *"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
@Dirtyjew1974 I agree with all the valid points you’ve raised - humans are getting bigger , taller and heavier - I guess nutrition , evolution and lack of hard industry now can account for that , Marciano beat every man that stood in front of him at that time , if it was possible to reincarnate him and place him in the ring today then yes I’m sure he would struggle with the bigger guys but anyone south of 200lbs would still be kissing the canvas!
@@MickyTubbs1985NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO FOUGHT OR KNEW ROCKY SAID THEY TOOK A DIVE. ROCKY FREAKING HURT PEOPLE and you don't fight 15 rounds or brutality getting KOd the last round of your taking a dive.
The way Rocky throws punches from every conceivable point on the compass is not only fun to watch but inspiring. He was a perpetual motion punching machine that ground his opponents down like a hydraulic drill attacking a boulder.
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, "Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day," his uncle Charlie Piccento said, "he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one."
Marciano was single-mindedly determined to succeed. “I’ve been in this boxing business fifty years, and I’ve never seen anyone like you yet,” Goldman told the fighter after he became champion. “Work. Work. Work. Train. Train. Train. Sometimes I suspect you’re not even human.” Marciano’s work ethic and indomitable will to win were the key elements of his rise, along with a final ingredient, the only one supplied by nature: a right-hand punch that put even superior boxers to sleep.
*Per family request Wikipedia recently changed Archie Moore's birthdate from 1916 to 1913.* Archie Moore said, *"I was in my 40's vs. Floyd Patterson."* --@ Rare Archie Moore Interview The host asks Archie Moore, (@ 6:35) *"why does your mother say your one age and you say another?"* Archie replies, *"I don't deny anything"* .. *"I never deny what my mother quotes"* .. *"I know my age"* .. *"and I've befuddled a lot of people who are requiring about my age constantly"* .. *"and that keeps me in the news."* --@ Day and Night: Archie Moore, boxer Archie Moore also said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was"* --@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears Archie Moore was 41 vs. Marciano. For Pete's sake, *"December 13, 1913"* was written in his obituary. *"Archie Moore, a.k.a., the “Old Mongoose,” was born under the name of Archibald Wright on December 13, 1913 in Benoit, Mississippi. On December 15, 1952 he became the light heavyweight champion at age 39, defeating Joey Maxim, thereby becoming the oldest light heavyweight champion in history. In 1955, just four months shy of his 42nd birthday, Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano."* - NEW WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA and The Historical Marker Database Archie Moore was 41 years, 9 months, 8 days old when he fought Rocky. *"ARCHIE MOORE became the light heavyweight champion at the age of 39. In 1952, four days after his 39th birthday, Moore secured a shot against light heavyweight champion Joey Maxim. He won the title by decision and held onto it for nearly a decade. In 1955, 41 year old Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano.* - written by International Boxing Hall Of Fame Archie Moore fought Rocky Sept. 21, 1955 which makes Moore 41 years, 9 months, 8 days old.
Muhammad Ali, *"Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard* (unrecognizable) *folks in Africa."* Cosell, *"But you think you could have beaten him too?"* Ali, *"Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination."* Cosell, *"You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."* Ali, *"Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"* Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. Why was the most important part removed?? *Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* *This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!* Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades! Truth is folks have removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano! Ali knew Marciano was deceased so he Lied when he said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier!* Y'all can order copies *@ Muhammad Ali Archival Television Audio Inc* just go to the *3rd page* to order 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore and Louis.. *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano." - Muhammad Ali, 02/15/76* (As more proof Dave Diles explains Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore in depth @ 0:15 or very beginning of *1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
Such a shame you never hear much of Rocky when people refer to the greatest boxers. He truly deserves more respect and recognition in the hall of fame. He had something that most other champions never had, humility and respect for their opponents. A true man of class, undoubtedly the best boxer in history. Taken way too soon.
@@leewilliams2763 ROCKY was a light heavy what are you talking about lmao he fought 49 people. NOT bums. These were top guys in thier day. Foreman won the championship at 45. Age is just a number when guys are this size. Some of the guys he fought had 20-30 lbs on him.
@@ispartacus1337 The light heavy limit is 175 pounds...Marciano weighed 189lbs. People don't realize is that Marciano trained himself DOWN to that weight...he felt comfortable at 189 pounds. He almost always gave up height and weight to his opponents...
@@beatlejim64 I knew cruiserweight didn't come around until the 70s so in my mind I was thinking light heavyweight went up to 200 lbs in Rockys day. I knew Rockys fighting weight was around 185-188 something like that. But that was why I was calling him that. Rocky also wasn't very tall so obviously the more weight he puts on over a certain threshold is just going to wear him out faster and he was always a take as much damage as possible and wear the other guy down. Where as Tyson who's the same height as Rocky walked around with 20 lbs on him which is crazy. But he finished his fights in the first few rounds. Completely different strategies. I don't know how much I would say Rocky "trained himself down to 188" that was just the weight he was most comfortable at. The man trained CONSTANTLY I think it was his constant cardio that kept him lean. Had to have been because as soon as he retired he ballooned up pretty quick. The man liked to eat!
Wonder how many of his fights was fixed. The mob had a big influence during that time. He also started boxing late in his career. Looks a little suspect. Look up his manager Frankie Carbo and his boss was.
@Turtle Smith don't act like the mob didn't control the boxing council back in those days please do your due diligence. All I'm saying Marciano is grossly overrated. And yes I'm sure a few fights were fix. A guy went on record and said the Mike Tyson vs Peter McNeeley was fixed. Look up Frankie Carbo and his ties with Murder Inc and Tommy Lucchese. It is what it is he also fought old greats past their prime Joe Louis and Archie Moore weren't the same boxers as before they were old in boxing standards.
MR BISHOP I WONDER HOW PEOPLE CAN CALL HIM A BUM ....ANY BOXER NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE ...WHT ..BLK ..BRN..BLUE ..PINK ..IF A BOXER GOES 49.0 HOW CAN U CALL A BOXER A BUM....IT ALL PERSONAL BS ...
@@2932mike Mmmm sounds like 👍 we have a Little Jealous VON VON On our Hands" Stop!!! Don't get your Panties In a Wad Little VON VON" And please stop crying me a River" ( 40-0 ) NEVER LOST....A FIGHT HA! HA!
IT JUST SHOWES ME THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT BOTHER PEOPLE AND CANT ACCEPT HIM...I DONT CARE WHAT ..COLOUR ..CREED ..RACE...ANY BOXERS WHO GO 49...0 THE RESPECT FOR THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT MUST ME ACKNOWLEDGE...LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM ...HE DID VERY WELL FOR HIS ERA ..
@@2932mikeHe destroyed 4 all time greats and cleaned out all ranked fighters in his division. He had the highest KO ratio of all time until vitali Klitschko came along.
You're drinking the Kool Aid; Marciano was a convicted street mugger and strong armed robber, who spent time in prison for beating up homosexuals and robbing then in England during the War, when he was in the Army. NO TELL US HOW SWEET AND GENTLE HE WAS. google it
Had little 184lb-cruiser Rocky had a normal duration boxing career like EVERYONE else did he would have had to face the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Liston, Cleveland, Folley, Valdez, Johansson, Cooper, Miteff, London, Mildenberger, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Quarry, Martin and Ellis just to name a few. Instead he only dealt with light heavyweights similar to Matthews, Lowry, Charles, Moore. Little Rocky is damned lucky he QUIT when he did!
Muhammad Ali said, *"Even in his prime, Rocky Marciano had no chance with me. First thing, he is too little. Less than five foot ten to my six foot three inches. I’d overwhelm him. I’d lay on him in the clinches like a big old grizzly bear, and I’d smother his insides out. He was too small to reach me from outside. I’d jab him twenty to one. Rocky had a face that cut easily. Can you imagine what my stinging jab would do to those weak eyes? By round three, Rocky would look like he ran into a lawn mower. How could he beat me? No way, is how."* This was before three Frazier fights, three fights with Ken Norton, and the George Foreman proved Ali's hypothesis. Ali too big, Ali too fast, Ali too strong a puncher, Ali too fast a jab, and the bad news, Ali too tough, takes heavy punishment well. I'm afraid Ali was right. Marciano, while a formidable opponent, wouldn't have lasted long. Regardless of the script, Rocky seemed unable to pull his punches, whereas Ali could come within a fraction of an inch to making it look extremely real. Our problem was that Ali was getting madder and madder as Rocky thumped one hard shot after another off his ribs. By the end of the second day, Ali stopped the filming to have a word with Rocky, *"Rocky, you're supposed to be pulling those body shots. You aren't, and they're hurting my ribs. Now, if we're going to have a real fight, then you will not be able to land those shots without me peppering your face with hard left jabs and right hooks, and if you do by chance land a body shot, you're going to take back a stinging right hand to the nose to break it again. Now, do we play movie or do we play boxing?"* Marciano knew he was wrong. Secretly, he wanted to find out if Ali could take his best shots. To his surprise, he found that Ali could. End of the problem. If you don't take anything away from this chapter, let me reiterate, commit this to memory: *"Ali would have beat Marciano if they had ever really fought."* - Ferdie Pacheco *Source - Tales from the 5th Street Gym: Ali, the Dundees, and Miami's Golden Age of Boxing by Ferdie Pacheco 2010. Chapter 10, When Ali took on Marciano - The Fake Fight* *(( IN SUMMARY ALI CHALLENGES ROCKY AND ROCKY DECLINED...AND THAT'S NOT JUST A THEORY OR A FABRICATED LIE...IT'S A FACT!!!! ))*
Muhammad Ali, *"Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard* (unrecognizable) *folks in Africa."* Cosell, *"But you think you could have beaten him too?"* Ali, *"Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination."* Cosell, *"You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."* Ali, *"Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"* Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. Why was the most important part removed?? *Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* *This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!* Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades! Truth is folks have removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano! Ali knew Marciano was deceased so he Lied when he said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier!* Y'all can order copies *@ Muhammad Ali Archival Television Audio Inc* just go to the *3rd page* to order 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore and Louis.. *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano." - Muhammad Ali, 02/15/76* (As more proof Dave Diles explains Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore in depth @ 0:15 or very beginning of *1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
When "The President" Nigerian Ike Ibeabuchi met "The Tuamanator" Samoan David Tua the Nigerian got out to an insanely fast start, throwing 91 punches in round one according to CompuBox, 91 again in round two, and 95 in round three, obscene numbers for a Heavyweight. By the final bell, Ibeabuchi and Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the Heavyweight record set by Ali vs. Frazier III, when they combined for 1,591 punches - in 14 rounds, two rounds more than Ibeabuchi and Tua had to work with. Ike threw 975 punches, the most ever by a single Heavyweight. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of this epic "tribal" battle and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226lb Tua's record stood at 27-0-0 23KO's while 236lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0-0 12KO's. This fight is the stuff that dreams were made of. Two Super Heavyweight warriors stood toe to toe exhibiting exceptional heart and endurance. Both boxers threw bombs and neither took a backward step. After the fight Ibeabuchi complained of a headache and was taken to a hospital. He underwent several tests including an MRI scan but nothing abnormal was found and was immediately released. A week after the fight Tua had surgery to remove bone chips from his left elbow. And Ike's in🎃sanity had nothing to do with anything he injested lik-roids, he was too paranoid of medications to take anything illegal. Ike was an anomaly, one in a million. No heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, and he believed that he was the King, that nobody could beat him. He’d walk into the ring and you would almost have this vision of a bull coming at a matador with the steam coming out of the nostrils. Unfortunately, here was a very scary man both in and out of the ring. And it’s unfortunate that we’ll never know what could have been. Bob Arum: "I don’t know, but it was the Heavyweight division and people love a puncher, and while he probably couldn’t have made what Mike Tyson made, but he would have been damn close. You know, hundreds of millions of dollars, sure. But again, again, that’s life, that’s life. You have to be a person, you have to be sane, you have to comport yourself with some kind of dignity and some kind of grace in order to realize that type of reward, and he couldn’t do it." 21 months later, 245lb Ibeabuchi confirmed that he was indeed the best up-and-coming heavyweight on the planet by knocking out undefeated 26-0 quick and slick southpaw Chris Byrd. Ibeabuchi was 20-0 with 15 knockouts, only 26 years old .. and he never fought again. Byrd: "I got a little arrogant, thinking I’m unhittable. Cause I just thought, Oh man, he can’t hit me! I’m gonna slip everything. And, boom, just got caught. When I got knocked down the first time, I got, literally, the canvas woke me up. I was asleep before I hit the ground, and when I hit the canvas it woke me up. I asked the referee why he stopped the fight? What are you doing? "The bell rung!" But my bell was still ringing, that’s what was ringing, was my bell." 245lb Ike Ibeabuchi would have been the heir to Lennox Lewis throne. The Klitschko's would have been gate keepers if he was around. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches and had a ridiculous work-rate with KO written all over his punches. *Little 184lb cruiserweight Rocky Marciano gets flattened by the 245lb prodigy Ike Ibeabuchi 10 out of 10 times and that's not even debatable!*
This was one of the best documentary biography of a legendary boxer. I had no idea he died so tragically a sad ending and a tough life people lived back in those days.
@@Komap619 Take a look at boxing fans pages on social media a good portion of boxing fans generally think Rocky would beat fighters like Lewis, Tyson, Ali etc. From what I've read/seen from Boxing fans over the years, I'd argue boxing fans overrated Rocky. Myself, I don't think it's right to compare fighters from different eras, the guy beat everybody he fought. Though it would've been interesting to see Rocky fight Sonny Listen. Also, 50% is a big number without a source to reference.
Rocky was a never ending onslaught of cardiovascular brutality. He had a chin that allowed him to exchange and let him set his feet to put guys under. He also had some of the sneakiest footwork and underrated defenses the sport has seen.
"A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise..." Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Archie Moore was 39, and on a 21 fight win streak, the longest of his career, all against younger opposition. He was prime. Joe Walcott was 38 and the Heavyweight Champion. He was also prime. Charles was 33, a year and a half older, and prime. Louis was 37, but had just won 8 straight. Rocky only had four years under his belt when he faced Joe Louis. Rocky had great wins over great fighters and champions.
He was a true champion. He had work ethic, determination and never said anything negative about his opponents. Just a real role model and class act. RIP Rocky.
What I never knew about his retirement or how he died I did hear about that knockout punch that he called the Susie q now I have to give it to him I always have to get credit where credit is due yes he was a great champion sorry to hear how he died rest in peace 👍
Muhammad Ali said, *"Even in his prime, Rocky Marciano had no chance with me. First thing, he is too little. Less than five foot ten to my six foot three inches. I’d overwhelm him. I’d lay on him in the clinches like a big old grizzly bear, and I’d smother his insides out. He was too small to reach me from outside. I’d jab him twenty to one. Rocky had a face that cut easily. Can you imagine what my stinging jab would do to those weak eyes? By round three, Rocky would look like he ran into a lawn mower. How could he beat me? No way, is how."* This was before three Frazier fights, three fights with Ken Norton, and the George Foreman proved Ali's hypothesis. Ali too big, Ali too fast, Ali too strong a puncher, Ali too fast a jab, and the bad news, Ali too tough, takes heavy punishment well. I'm afraid Ali was right. Marciano, while a formidable opponent, wouldn't have lasted long. Regardless of the script, Rocky seemed unable to pull his punches, whereas Ali could come within a fraction of an inch to making it look extremely real. Our problem was that Ali was getting madder and madder as Rocky thumped one hard shot after another off his ribs. By the end of the second day, Ali stopped the filming to have a word with Rocky, *"Rocky, you're supposed to be pulling those body shots. You aren't, and they're hurting my ribs. Now, if we're going to have a real fight, then you will not be able to land those shots without me peppering your face with hard left jabs and right hooks, and if you do by chance land a body shot, you're going to take back a stinging right hand to the nose to break it again. Now, do we play movie or do we play boxing?"* Marciano knew he was wrong. Secretly, he wanted to find out if Ali could take his best shots. To his surprise, he found that Ali could. End of the problem. If you don't take anything away from this chapter, let me reiterate, commit this to memory: *"Ali would have beat Marciano if they had ever really fought."* - Ferdie Pacheco *Source - Tales from the 5th Street Gym: Ali, the Dundees, and Miami's Golden Age of Boxing by Ferdie Pacheco 2010. Chapter 10, When Ali took on Marciano - The Fake Fight* *(( IN SUMMARY ALI CHALLENGES ROCKY AND ROCKY DECLINED...AND THAT'S NOT JUST A THEORY OR A FABRICATED LIE...IT'S A FACT!!!! ))*
Only now did I realize how brutal Marciano fights were back then. No wonder when Mike Tyson's time came, my mother always talked about Rocky. Truly a role model. A true people's champion.
"He's a very smart fighter, a very durable fighter, and a great champion.." - Rocky Marciano This is what Rocky Marciano said in his post fight interview after his KO victory over Jersey Joe Walcott. The whole interview he gave nothing but praise to his opponent, and meant every word of it. He referred to him as a "true champion", and sincerely saw him as exactly that. And that was after Jersey Joe called him a bum, and spent weeks before the fight disparaging Marciano in the press every chance he got. Marciano had every right to rub that knockout in his face, yet he chose not to. You don't see very much of that kind of professional sportsmanship and class in fighters anymore. Its really sad. That is the kind of class that every World Champion should carry himself with. They simply don't make 'em like they used to, i guess...
The entire world has lost its morality and class. its so sad. I can't stand the stupidity of today's mentality. Humility, graciousness, and common decency are almost entirely absent. It's why politically people are willing to do the unthinkable to each other and we are staring at human rights abuses. What is so funny is that no hints of racist overtones back then at a time when there was still segregation. Everyone black and white conducted themselves with class.
You are absolutely right, take wilder vs fury 3 for example. Right after the fight ended wilder did not show any respect to fury despite correcting it later on on social media with a clear help of PR consultors the fact remains as you say. There is no class no more especially in american fighters!
@Juan Ruiz Art I just wish more fighters, more athletes, and more people in general were like that. Whether they are Catholic or not. Rocky Marciano's post fight interview i think could be the gold standard of class and professionalism that a younger generation should look up to.
Thundering fists, bloodied gloves, sweltering heat and a chant that would build and erupt: rocky, Rocky, ROCKY! He earned his 49-0 with raw intensity, rainmaker hooks and spring-loaded uppercuts. Marciano was relentless and tougher than a coffin nail.
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said, "after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning."
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, "Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day," his uncle Charlie Piccento said, "he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one."
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
I believe you're referring to what they call the 'outro' in the YT biz and yes, it is a good one that usually means you've just watched one helluva great video!
I've never heard Rocky's story until now and that unexpected ending with the planecrash really got to me. Such a great fighter in and out of the ring, gone too soon. RIP legend
The International Boxing Club Of New York was the dominant promotional power in boxing. It controlled the sport at Madison Square Garden and other major arenas. It had contracts for regularly-scheduled fights on the emerging medium of television. And it had links to organized crime; most notably through Frankie Carbo. “Carbo,” Russell Sullivan explains, “established a well-organized centralized system of control over boxing. The system featured scores of managers who operated as front men for Carbo. Once a promising fighter arrived on the scene, one of Carbo’s managers would muscle in on his ownership. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence.”
Teddy Brenner, who worked for Al Weill in the late-1940s and subsequently became president of Madison Square Garden Boxing, later acknowledged, “Carbo had his fingers on the throat of boxing. If he did not own a certain fighter, he owned the manager. Weill was a boxing politician who held hands with the mob. When Weill was Marciano’s manager, he was controlled by Carbo.” In May 1949, Weill became the matchmaker for the International Boxing Club. That meant Marciano could fight against carefully chosen opponents when and where Weill wanted. Marciano wasn’t the first fighter to be moved by people of influence. Nor will he be the last. It’s what happened after the first LaStarza fight that really blemished Marciano’s career by taking a major step back in competition. Rocky’s handlers were afraid to put him in with anyone who could pose much of a threat after coming so close to tasting defeat. His next opponent was F-level Eldridge Eatman who had lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Everybody knew it was a gimme fight for an undefeated fighter. Then there was F-level Ted Lowry who had a career record of 71 wins 68 losses. Marciano was picking and choosing his fights his entire career. Marciano's 32nd fight was against F-level Keene Simmons who had a career 8 wins 8 losses. His 33rd fight was against F-level Harold Mitchell who had a career 4 wins 17 losses. 34th fight was against F-level Art Henri who had a career 13 wins 14 losses. And his 35th fight was against F-level Willis Applegate who had a career 11 wins 14 losses. It's clear as day Frankie Carbo and Al Weill padded Marciano's resume his entire (but very short) career. Marciano's career motto was: "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
So Marciano threw 100 punches in a round? Lol give me a break. Number one Marciano only weighed 185. So even if he threw 100 punches in a round what would that prove? Why compare a light heavyweight punch numbers to a true-Heavyweight. Only sik-minded fanboys would even try to compare.
If 42 year old light heavyweight Moore and 38 year old cruiserweight Walcott could drop little white Rocky then the Tyson's, Foreman's, Klitschko's and Ibeabuchi's of the world woulda kilt him. How can a 185 pound man even be considered an ATG Super Heavyweight when he was barely cruiserweight?
Marciano could train 1000 years but prime Ali would still crush him. Since Marciano struggled with light heavyweight Charles who was a good boxer, but was smaller weaker and slower than Ali, what makes you think he'd do better against Ali?
185 lb Marciano swinging wildly against light heavyweights moonlighting as heavyweights is one thing. Swinging wildly against topnotch prime Super Heavyweights (220 to 270 lbs) is an entirely different story. Little Rocky's reach was only 67" inches (same as a bantamweight).
In Undefeated: Rocky Marciano - The Fighter Who Refused to Lose By Everett Skehan, it is documented that Rocky refused to take phone calls in camp. He didn’t want radios, (It was before the widespread use of television) or newspapers, or discussions about anything except boxing and training. He had no contact with his family or anyone in the outside world. He was there solely to train from before sunup to after sunset. Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning. In camp, he would run in the morning, and fast walk another 10 miles at night. He also did wind sprints during the day. He liked to run short distances, a couple of hundred yards, up a hill in training as fast as he could, and then run back down facing backwards. And then he repeated over and over until he was exhausted. He used a speed bag but not like anyone else does or did, he would hit it with hooks and slow power shots to work on his accuracy. He trained using a custom made 300 pound heavy bag. He would power clean a giant rock and toss it forward with both hands (the rock weighed over a hundred pounds). He did crunches that combined kicking a heavy medicine ball out to the trainer He believed in calisthenics, and did up to several hours worth in addition to everything else. Several days a week Rocky went shoulder deep in a swimming pool and threw hundreds of underwater punches for up to an hour. And then, in the late afternoon, Rocky would spar. Rocky literally trained every day from before sunup, to after sundown. So he could do 15 rounds. No science based training today could match Rocky’s old time regimen for intensity, or his old time trainer, Charlie Goldman for knowledge. There isn’t a trainer today capable of taking Rocky Marciano and making him undisputed champion. There is a price for that toughness and peerless conditioning. Rocky had to train year round, and he trained in between fights harder than most fighters train in camp. Rocky said after the Lester amateur fight: "I will never be outworked again.” And he wasn’t. Rocky Marciano summed up his philosophy simply: “Greatness is getting up when you go down, and keeping on when you think you can’t. Greatness is winning when nobody thinks you will, or fighting on when you know you are going to lose, but you can’t give up.” And that will, that ferocious desire to win, those hours, days, months, 8 straight years of training every day, is what made Rocky Marciano a Champion when he was always smaller, usually slower, and with less reach.
Rocky was almost as popular as the President and so many sports writers across America was printing information about him during his championship years. Some of that material is rare and great sources of authentic information. Rocky Marciano: The 13th Candle Rocky Marciano: Training And Meal Of Great Champion The Rocky Marciano Story - 1954 Rocky Marciano's Book of Boxing and Bodybuilding Rocky Marciano: The Winner ! This Guy Marciano Rocky Marciano: A Life Story Rocky Marciano: Undefeated Heavyweight Champion Of The World Rocky: The Story Of A Champion Undefeated: Rocky Marciano The Fighter Who Refused To Lose Rocky Marciano: The Brockton Blockbuster Rocky Marciano: The Immortal Champion Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times Rocky Marciano: Biography Of A First Son Unbeaten And much more through boxing magazines, newspaper articles, 1952 LIFE magazine, 1955 Sports Illustrated, etcetera. I stand by the "5 pounds" built into his combat boots only through his early training years at the park next to his mother/father's house. When his training became more advanced he ran in Converse black-and-white version of the All Star tennis shoes.
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse when I say this on every video you make, but the quality of your documentary videos are on par or better than all of the 30 for 30 ESPN documentaries I've seen. Your work is second to none. Thank you for doing all this. It's not hard to tell as a viewer when someone cares about what they are presenting to you. You can tell that you really enjoy this
Someone needs to make an A-list biopic (or HBO T.V series) about Rocky Marciano's life A.S.A.P. I Enjoyed the Michael Jai White Tyson film, as well as Ali and Cinderella man, and especially The Fighter but Hollywood really needs to pay tribute to this legend. R.I.P Rocky Marciano 🙏🏽
@@finalboss3893 Rocky Balboa was probably somewhat inspired by Rocky Marciano but I've never seen a high budget Hollywood Biopic or T.V series based on Marciano's life.
Ali put Rocky in the hospital for an entire week after their choreographed sparing match. *"Rocky entered the hospital for dehydration, torn bicep and exhaustion."* - Peter Marciano ... I've seen the Getty images and Rocky looked terrible! He was only 45, wearing a wig, had zero muscle tone and fat was hanging everywhere! That's not all. Y'all can clearly see Ali was at least 6" taller! Don't believe for a second that Rocky was 5' 10". Rocky was actually 5' 9" (1.75 meters) according to Rocky Marciano's biographer John Cameron; his reach was 67 inches (1.70 meters)--incredibly short for Heavyweight; by way of comparison today's Bantamweights (115-118 lbs) average 67.7". There is no question that little Rocky was superbly conditioned by the standards of the day; however, at his average fighting weight of 183 lbs/83 kg, between 178 and 188, he was not incredibly lean and he was not dehydrated; he was, in other words, a natural light heavyweight. He only weighed 170 when he boxed for the military. Frazier was a genuine 205 lb Heavyweight. Marciano was a genuine 184 lb tiny Cruiserweight. Usyk weighs 223 not 184. Zhang and Bakole weigh 285 not 184. Miller weighs 305 not 184. Weight matters and numbers don't lie!
@Malleon Willis I think the opponents back then even though they weren’t champions were brutal as well! Rocky took massive punishment! In order to get inside where he needed to be ! The punishment he took and kept on coming and seemed to never really be hurt is ehh I think he’s best . Those shots he took would probably have killed most people! And his Cardio is legendary he ran 15 miles daily in combat boots that was probably his secret, he always had gas in his tank his punches always had something behind them !
@Malleon Willis in actually boxing probably not ! But I doubt anyone could knock him out and he had the powers to knock anyone out but ya your right it’s different mike Tyson was a savage and he could actually box maybe Tyson would of knocked him out! It would be awesome to see!
Soft spoken Lennox Lewis at his best was the total package. The last undisputed Heavyweight champion emerged as cream of the crop against some of the biggest punchers in Heavyweight history. Lennox avenged his only two defeats by knockout. He didn't make excuses for his losses, he said, "It's Heavyweights, you can get caught, but i won the rematches in style," and "Show me a Heavyweight champion without a loss and i'll show you a fighter that fought a lot of nobodies." In my opinion Lennox Lewis is the GOAT. To hear 58 year old Lennox talk so clearly and eloquently after going up against 18 Heavyweight Champions is remarkable. The 18 HW Champions Lewis faced: *Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, Hasim Rahman, Oliver McCall, Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande, Tommy Morrison and Ray Mercer were later recognized as WBO champions, British HW champion Gary Mason, European HW champion Jean Chanet, Commonwealth HW champion Derek Williams, Canada HW champion Razor Ruddock, IBF/WBF HW champion Michael Grant, and WBC International HW champion David Tua...[[ technically not all were 'World' champions but champions nonetheless ]]. Other notable mentions; Olympic HW Silver medalist Riddick Bowe, Olympic HW Gold medalist Tyrell Briggs, Andrew Golota, Zeljko Mavrovic, Frans Botha and Phil Jackson* How many prime topnotch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweight and 224+lbs Super Heavyweight Champions did 184 lb tiny cruiser Marciano fight??? I always find it amusing the way Rocky fans belittle Lennox for being KO'd twice yet always fail to mention the *((28))* times Walcott Charles Moore Layne LaStarza were KO'd and the *((94))* times they lost. Who KO'd Lennox? Hasim Rahman 6' 3" 240 lbs 82% KO's with 82" reach was a genuine Super Heavyweight, *not a 184 lb tiny cruiser with tiny 67" flyweight reach.* Oliver McCall 6' 2" 240 lbs 82" reach was a genuine Super Heavyweight, *not a 184 lb tiny cruiser with tiny 67" flyweight reach.* Imagine little Rocky trying to fight topnotch Super Heavyweights with 80" to 86" albatross wingspans and 30 to 100 lb weight advantages? *What a Joke.*
Role model to all man, always believe in yourself, work hard and get up stronger everytime you fall. Just like Ayrton Senna...pursue the perfection to no end.
What's truly amazing is that he fought at his natural weight. He would even eat a steak and drink a huge glass of water before weigh in to make weight. He was smaller than all of his opponents. Some guys can cut 20 lbs.. so on fight night, his opponents were often 6 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier than him.. and he would beat them to near death in under 4 rounds.. he knocked out 2 different fighters with liver punches
Joe Louis (who went 66-3) once wrote that Marciano was the fiercest puncher he ever faced. In light of Louis’s opponents, that would mean Rocky swung harder than Max Baer, Primo Carnera, Max Schmeling and Jimmy Braddock.
I'm not sure if he swung harder than max baer because Joe Louis fought a max baer who was much softer and wasn't the same after he killed a man in the ring
@@wh1msikal How do you know? Max lived to 99. Didn't seem to bother him any. I mean just assuming stuff like that is ridiculous. How does ANYONE know what was going through his mind? Did he tell you?
@@wh1msikal The guys name was Frank Campbell. It happened in 1930. Campbell was the aggressor in the first round, eluding Baer's right hand and .scoring with his shorter, crisper punches. Near the end of the round, however, Baer dropped him with a looping right to the jaw. Campbell took a count of nine and did not seem seriously hurt. In the second, Campbell stung Baer with a left to the ribs and Max went down. He protested to Referee Toby Irwin that he had merely slipped, and Irwin agreed, motioning him back into action. Campbell, meanwhile, had not retreated to a neutral corner, as he would have been required to do in the event of a knockdown. Instead, he had strolled to the ring ropes and, inexplicably, began staring out at the crowd. As Baer regained his feet, a photographer's flashbulb exploded in his eyes, momentarily blurring his vision. He said later that Campbell appeared to him as only a shadow figure. Campbell was still gazing abstractedly as Baer advanced on him. He turned just as Baer caught him with a right to the side of the head. The blow stunned Campbell, but he held on and survived the round. Between rounds, he was heard to confide to his second. Tom (Greaseball) Maloney, "Something feels like it broke in my head." But Campbell fought well in the next two rounds, staying even in the third and clearly winning the fourth. He was ahead on some scorecards in the fifth when Baer, the right-handed slugger, surprised him with a whistling left hook to the jaw. Campbell slumped back into the ropes in a neutral corner as Baer, sensing his opportunity but wary of possum-playing, belabored him with a succession of powerful punches to the head. Campbell did not go down. He could not, for the ring ropes were supporting him. With his opponent still on his feet, Baer kept punching. One of the blows caused Campbell's head to smash against the metal turnbuckle that joined the ropes with the ring posts. Still, he did not go down. The furious assault could not have lasted more than a few seconds, but it seemed to ringsiders like minutes before Irwin stepped in and pulled the flailing Baer away. As he did so, Campbell slumped unconscious to the canvas. A count was unnecessary. As flashbulbs popped, Irwin held Baer's hand aloft, while Campbell's seconds worked frantically to revive him. Baer helped them carry him to his stool. The photograph of Baer that appeared in the morning Chronicle showed him smiling as winners are supposed to, but it was accompanied by a story saying that, as of one o'clock in the morning, Frankie Campbell "lay in St. Joseph's Hospital still insensible." Dr. Frank Sheehy of the hospital staff told reporters the fighter had suffered extensive brain damage and that "the outlook is very dark." Smith's story of the fight portrayed Baer as a vicious fighter. "He [Campbell] was ready to drop, but Baer continued to rain in blows to an unprotected jaw and against a man who was already knocked out...Campbell was dead to the world and stayed in that unconscious condition as Irwin raised Baer's hand and posed for the picture of the winner." After he had showered, Baer asked Hoffman if he might visit Campbell in his dressing room and wish him well. "Frankie isn't in the room yet," Hoffman told him. "He's still in the ring." In fact, Campbell lay in the ring for a full half hour after the fight while an ambulance from nearby Mission Emergency Hospital threaded through traffic to the ball park. Baer went to the family home in Piedmont secure in the knowledge he had won an important fight, unaware that his opponent lay near death. Early the next morning Baer received a phone call from the hospital. Campbell was not expected to live, and the police were asking for him. Baer replaced the receiver and turned to his family. "He just stood there, tears as big as golf balls rolling down his cheeks," Augie Baer recalls. "All the heart seemed to go right out of him then." Max had himself driven to the hospital, where he encountered Campbell's wife, who generously absolved him of blame. "It could have been you," she told him. He could barely speak in reply. The fight officially ended Monday at 10:34 p.m. Frankie Campbell, age 26, died at 11:35 a.m. Tuesday of a double cerebral hemorrhage. Baer surrendered that afternoon to San Francisco Police Captain Fred Lemmon at the Hotel Whitcomb. The bail of $10,000, set by Superior Court Judge George H. Cabaniss, was the highest ever for a charge of manslaughter in San Francisco. Baer spent much of that day in jail before Hoffman arrived with the bail money.
@@wh1msikal Anyhow the story gets interesting. Max almost went to prison for murder. Everyone that saw that fight said it was. It just goes to show how terrible the rules and referees were back then. Old-school was not necessarily tougher, it's just that the beatings lasted longer. The crowd demanded blood and that's what they got. More modern fighters like Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Ali, Vitali, Ibeabuchi, Foreman, etcetera would have destroyed and obliterated all those old-school heavyweight boxers.
*Little Rocky's division was the smallest Heavyweight division in boxing History. Little Charles only weighed 181 when he won his Super Heavyweight title. Little Rocky only weighed 184. Light heavyweight Jimmy Bivins was only 5' 8". Harry "Kid" Matthews was a career middleweight. Archie Moore was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Eddie Ross and Harry Bilazarian were career middleweights. Harry Haft was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Ted Lowry and Willis Applegate were career light heavyweights and Bob Jefferson was a career light heavyweight. I'm sorry but I just don't get it? What's the debate about? How to make tiny Rocky and his tiny division Bigger?*
Rocky ran 20 miles daily for 2555 (7 years) days nonstop. Keep in mind a marathon is 26.2 miles. In addition to his daily 20 mile runs he'd also include sprinting uphill backwards and shadowboxed under water for an additional 2 hours. Rocky was superhuman and will forever be my Hero. Peace to the fallen 😢
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici if Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield or Lennox Lewis fought the same fighters that Marciano fought, they would all be 49-0 as well.
Almost all people of those era's were like that. The only person that was a real jerk was Ted Williams. Had a foul mouth and actually was told to leave Sears for using profanity.
I wouldn’t say you NEVER see that any more. Tyson was a maniac but he was super gracious in victory, even mayweather was/is pretty gracious towards his opponents after he wins, there’s plenty of others too
@@Liam_Barlowe I'm not sure about dirtiest but there have been a lot of dirty boxers from that era, it's VERY common back then check out Gene Fullmer's fights. I love the man but Fullmer cheats a lot 😂
🐻Why has Marciano's admission been hidden away for decades? Marciano *"admitted"* he could *"not"* beat prime Louis, Ali, Liston! This information is huge and settles any and all debates as to who could beat who! According to Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength. --by Mike Stanton and Fight City So it's true, Rocky really wasn't that good and his competition confirmed as much. Who did he fight? Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."*
💙37 year old Joe Louis had already been fighting *"17 years"* with *(68)* fights and *(96)* fights before two million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing Marciano. *Louis' speed and punching power had all but evaporated evidenced by him scoring only 2 KO's in his last 12 fights!* Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, 184 lb Rocky was just entering his prime. 40 year old cruiserweight Walcott had already been fighting *"22 years"* with *(68)* fights before facing tiny cruiser Rocky. Walcott had an abysmal 44% KO's. Walcott being granted (6) title attempts in a (5 ½) year span (1947 to 1953) proves how shallow the division was. *And (5) of his title opportunities came immediately after a loss!* This is important. *Giant Abe Simon put Walcott into retirement for 4 years 4 months (1940 to 1944). Rocky himself said Walcott was only 90% @ 'The Marciano Tapes 3'.* Walcott's most notable victories include wins over light heavyweights Charles and Maxim. Combined Charles and Maxim lost (54) times. *Walcott lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times.* Light heavyweight Charles with the lowest ever 42% KO's had already been fighting *"15 years"* with *(95)* fights before facing Marciano in 1954. *Charles was already showing signs of ALS against Walcott in 1951.* *Charles was 100% factually handicapped when he fought Marciano!* It's in Ezzard's biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff.* *Charles lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times.* 42 year old light heavyweight Moore had already been fighting *"20 years"* with *(178)* fights before facing Marciano. Moore said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was." -@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears* Wouldn't that put Archie in his mid 40's? This was Rocky's last fight and he's only 31. Moore continued to fight till he was 50. *Who did Rocky fight when he was 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 and 50 years of age?* How many times would Rocky have lost if he had *(220)* fights like Moore had? *Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times.* In summary *Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Marciano never fought an all-time great in his prime and he was only 31 when he had his last fight.* It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over-accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."* ( @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight )
🌐Zhang - 290 Bakole - 290 Joyce - 280 Fury - 275 Briggs - 265 Ruiz - 265 Grant - 265 Lennox - 250 Parker - 250 Foreman - 250 Vitali - 250 Peter - 250 Joshua - 250 Whyte - 250 Ibeabuchi - 245 Kabayel - 245 Wladimir - 245 Anderson - 245 Hrgovic - 245 Sanchez - 245 Ruddock - 245 Wardley - 240 Bowe - 240 Ortiz - 240 Witherspoon - 235 Tua - 235 Dokes - 235 Bruno - 230 Morrison - 230 Cooney - 230 Wilder - 225 Thomas - 225 Usyk - 222 Lyle - 220 Tyson - 218 Holmes - 218 Ali - 218 Liston - 218 *Marciano - 184 with the shortest ever 67" flyweight reach* *Charles - 181 with the lowest ever 42% KO's* *Moore - 175 light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962* Rocky was never tested against genuine topnotch 200+lbs Heavyweights let alone authentic topnotch 224+lbs Super Heavyweights. But he went 49-0, yes he did, against who? Middleweights and light heavyweights masquerading as Heavyweights. Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. *Rocky never fought an all-time great in his prime.* In my opinion today's light heavy phenom Artur Beterbiev would annihilate Rocky. Rocky was flat-footed, wide open and never used the jab.
Rocky is also remembered and honored for his class as an individual, not only his 49-0. He never boasted or ridiculed his opponents. Regardless what others may think Rocky Marciano was a great champion.
When Muhammad Ali died, I read one obituary that praised him for his skill and his heart, as well as expressing admiration for Ali's willingness to stick to his principles, even when it cost him his title, but which was also critical of him for popularizing the now common habit of trash talking your opponents all the time. Marciano followed the custom that prevailed before Ali came along, and he was always gracious and a good sportsman.
@@MrCrowley925 WTF is that dude smoking. Rocky Marciano's real name was Rocco Marciano. One of the most Italian names ever!! You can even look at his facial features and could tell he had Italian features!!
I think Rocky's greatest weapon was his endurance. It allowed him to keep a certain punching output going that his opponents just couldn't match. His output in the latter rounds was the same as the early rounds. No other heavyweight in history had that kind of gas in the tank.
True. Part of that, especially in the heavyweights, is how much larger and heavier the fighters are today. All that mass and muscle takes a lot of energy to put in motion. On the other side, fighters today defense is much much better. Boxers today couldnt take that many full power direct punches from their opponents. They’re too powerful.
@@keanan5360 no I really don't think so.. it would have been a bloody brutal fight but I see Marciano winning late in the fight by TKO I see smokin' joe gasing 12-15 rounds and Marciano overwhelming him into submission TKO but total 10000%% respect to Smokin' Joe one of the best ever to do it.
Marciano's monastic monk like year round daily runs and 3 to 5 month preparation per fight was unprecedented. Never seeking refuge in a clinch and couldn't be hurt he broke spirits. Rocky beat them up, rearranged their bone structure and knocked them out.
"A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise..." Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
My grandpa and I used to watch Friday night fights back in the 90’s. He would always tell me how great Rocky was and that no boxer “pound for pound” was better or ever would be better. To this day I still have to agree with him. Great video, Joe.
Charles Lost *(25)* times and was KOd *(7)* times Moore Lost *(23)* times and was KO'd *(7)* times Walcott Lost *(20)* times and was KOd *(6)* times Savold Lost *(43)* times and was KO'd *(12)* times Lowry Lost *(68)* times and was KO'd *(3)* times Cockell Lost *(14)* times and was KO'd *(9)* times LaStarza Lost *(9)* times and was KO'd *(2)* times Louis Bravely fought *(69)* times.............little Rocky Quit at *49* Walcott Bravely fought *(70)* times.........little Rocky Quit at *49* Charles Bravely fought *(121)* times.......little Rocky Quit at *49* Moore Bravely fought *(220)* times.........little Rocky Quit at *49* Savold Bravely fought *(142)* times.........little Rocky Quit at *49* Matthews Bravely fought *(103)* times.. .little Rocky Quit at *49* LaStarza Bravely fought *(66)* times.......little Rocky Quit at *49* Cockell Bravely fought *(81)* times..........little Rocky Quit at *49* Lowry Bravely fought *(150)* times..........little Rocky Quit at *49* Louis Bravely fought *(17)* years...........little Rocky Only *7* years Walcott Bravely fought *(23)* years.......little Rocky Only *7* years Charles Bravely fought *(20)* years.......little Rocky Only *7* years Moore Bravely fought *(27)* years.........little Rocky Only *7* years Savold Bravely fought *(19)* years........little Rocky Only *7* years Matthews Bravely fought *(19)* years...little Rocky Only *7* years LaStarza Bravely fought *(14)* years.....little Rocky Only *7* years Cockell Bravely fought *(10)* years.......little Rocky Only *7* years Lowry Bravely fought *(16)* years.........little Rocky Only *7* years *Shocking isn't it?? We never se these stats bcz they're always Suppressed.* Imagine if today's Heavyweights Fury & Usyk had losing records lik that?? *Heck,, they'd be thrown under the bus immediately if they only had "'ONE"' loss,, let alone 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 or even 68!!!* *((* If a fighter *today* had *((20))* losses and was KO'd *((6))* times he'd be considered an undercard *F-LEVEL* Journeyman!!! Correct?? OH,, but, but, but it's okay for Jersey Joe Walcott bcz two-faced Marciano fans say it is *))* *HOW MANY LOSSES DID THE "'BEST"' HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME HAVE:* Lewis --------- *2* Holmes ------ *6* Ali -------------- *5* Vitali ----------- *2* Foreman ---- *5* Tyson -------- *6* Wladimir ---- *5* Bowe --------- *1* Liston -------- *4* Louis --------- *3* Holyfield -- *10* Frazier ------- *4* Norton ------- *7* Tunney ------ *1* Dempsey --- *6* Johnson --- *11* *"SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES"* -- *Lennox Lewis*
The overwhelming majority of little 184-lb cruiserweight Rocky's *F-LEVEL* opposition: Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL* James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs *F-LEVEL* Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs *F-LEVEL* Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably. --The Ring
Marciano had been married to the same woman, the former Barbara Cousins, the daughter of a Brockton cop, since Dec. 31, 1950, but the union unraveled long before the decade was done *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* Rocky's tastes ran more to svelte, statuesque blondes, that single glass of wine and smokeless rooms. "He couldn't stand his married life" says Saccone "There was nothing compatible between them." So the mesh included people, such as the late Lindy Ciardelli on the West Coast and Paterniti on the East Coast, whose job was to help feed Marciano's prodigious sexual appetite. "Rock liked girls, know what I mean?" Paterniti says. "Nobody wants me to tell you about it, but Rock was insane about girls; that's all he wanted to do, all the time. He constantly had or-geees night and day. A friend of mine in New York got me and Rocky thousands of girls. Honestly, literally a thousand girls. We had girls every single day and night. I carried a suitcase full of electric massagers and emotion lotion and all kinds of creams and oils." "That a woman be waiting for Rocky was as requisite for his appearance as the folded $100 bills." "If he ever went to some place and there was not a girl waiting for him, he'd never come back," says Santarelli, his underworld pal.
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan "One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston "Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis "The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali "My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield "Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier "Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles "Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott "Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore "Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer "Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali "Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza "One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman If that is not respect, I don't know what is
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan "One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston "Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis "The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali "My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield "Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier "Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles "Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott "Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore "Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer "Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali "Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza "One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman If that is not respect, I don't know what is
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
I grew up in Brockton and went to school with a handful of Rocky's grandchildren. Very nice family! Such a tragedy that Rocky was taken from us at such a young age.
Rocky Marciano's legacy is not that he was just undefeated, but how he was undefeated. He overcame cuts, knockdowns, trailing late in fights, and more. His will is unquestioned. When you look at the greatest Heavyweights to ever reign over the most prestigious title in all of sports, the greats are near-mythical figures that would give everything to win, men that had an indomitable spirit to go along with skill. When you think of guys like that, you think of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Holyfield and yes, Rocky Marciano, who undoubtedly etched his name among them. So let the revisionist run their mouths about how he was too short, how he was just a brawler, how his competition was weak etc. In the end, no other Heavyweight champion has ever retired undefeated and I doubt anyone else ever will. The one-man that did it is always standing and his name is Rocky Marciano!
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
*C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott lost to Middleweights Mays ,, Palmer ,, Ketchell ,, and to Light heavyweights Charles x2 ,, Fox x2 ,, Maxim ,, Brothers ,, Taylor.. In summary Walcott consistently lost to Middleweights and Light heavyweights!!! Overall he lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times!!!*
Paying for Vingos medical expenses says everything about him. And every interview I seen with him he was very well spoken and gratuitous. Legend.🙏🏴
"Consider that in Dec. 1962 Ring magazine poll of 40 boxing experts it was Jack Dempsey that was rated the # 1 Heavyweight of all time with Joe Louis 2nd, Jack Johnson 3rd and Marciano finishing a distant 7th, way behind Dempsey. If he was considered 7th in 1962 how does he propel to the top 5, when since then we have had Muhammad Ali who faced much tougher competition, the big power hitting George Foreman, Larry Holmes who made 20 title defenses, the bigger, faster and more powerful Mike Tyson, and the giant Lennox Lewis who at 6’5” 245 pounds would enjoy a 60 pound weight advantage over Marciano? This is a key point. Boxing historians Herb Goldman and Charley Rose rated Marciano at # 8, "Mr. Boxing, himself," Nat Fleischer rated him at # 10 and John McCallum's Survey of Old Timers (survey of a group of historians and writers) had him at # 9. No major historian who saw Marciano in their lifetime thought he was a top 7 all time Heavyweight and 68 years have passed since Rocky retired." -- by Monte D. Cox, (IBRO) International Boxing Research Organization, 2004. So what happened??? How did little 184-lb cruiserweight Rocky with the shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach go from 7th ranked greatest heavyweight of all-time throughout the 60s and 70s all the way up to 3rd or 4th greatest Super Heavyweight in 2023??? He only fought 7 years and only defended his cruiser title 6 times while everyone else fought 15 to 20 years and defended their title/titles 10, 15, 20, 25 times. And the funniest thing is, he only defended his title against one cruiserweight and the rest were light heavyweights moonlighting as heavyweights bcz no top-notch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweights existed!!!
I wonder what an interview where he had to talk about his conviction and Bad Conduct Discharge for the Military, for beating up and robbing Homosexuals in England during WWII, would have been like?
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
*“Cassius Clay is the best Heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”* Jersey Joe Walcott made these observations in an exclusive interview with Ring magazine. Walcott has been around boxing a long time and should know what he is talking about. Here is what he has to say about Clay’s fighting quality. *“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen."* Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated: *“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and hard and moves too quickly for all of us old timers.”* Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure-shot winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said: *“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations."* *“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned."* *“All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance."* *“He could do the same thing to Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and me. He might not knock us out but he would beat all of us."* *“When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch."* *"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange."*
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
178lb light heavy to 184lb tiny cruiser Rocky's conditioning is another manufactured fallacy and 236lb Ibeabuchi vs. 226lb Tua proved it when they threw a record breaking 1,730 haymakers in only 12 rds. *When "The President" Nigerian Ike Ibeabuchi met "The Tuamanator" Samoan David Tua the Nigerian got out to an insanely fast start, throwing 91 punches in round one according to CompuBox, 91 again in round two, and 95 in round three, obscene numbers for a Heavyweight. By the final bell, Ibeabuchi and Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the Heavyweight record set by Ali vs. Frazier III, when they combined for 1,591 punches - in 14 rounds, two rounds more than Ibeabuchi and Tua had to work with. Ike threw 975 punches, the most ever by a single Heavyweight. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of this epic "tribal" battle and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226lb Tua's record stood at 27-0-0 23KO's while 236lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0-0 12KO's.* This fight is the stuff that dreams were made of. Two Super Heavyweight warriors stood toe to toe exhibiting exceptional heart and endurance. Both boxers threw bombs and neither took a backward step. After the fight Ibeabuchi complained of a headache and was taken to a hospital. He underwent several tests including an MRI scan but nothing abnormal was found and was immediately released. A week after the fight Tua had surgery to remove bone chips from his left elbow. And Ike's in🎃sanity had nothing to do with anything he injested lik-roids, he was too paranoid of medications to take anything illegal. Ike was an anomaly, one in a million. No heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, and he believed that he was the King, that nobody could beat him. He’d walk into the ring and you would almost have this vision of a bull coming at a matador with the steam coming out of the nostrils. Unfortunately, here was a very scary man both in and out of the ring. And it’s unfortunate that we’ll never know what could have been. Bob Arum: "I don’t know, but it was the Heavyweight division and people love a puncher, and while he probably couldn’t have made what Mike Tyson made, but he would have been damn close. You know, hundreds of millions of dollars, sure. But again, again, that’s life, that’s life. You have to be a person, you have to be sane, you have to comport yourself with some kind of dignity and some kind of grace in order to realize that type of reward, and he couldn’t do it." 21 months later, 245lb Ibeabuchi confirmed that he was indeed the best up-and-coming heavyweight on the planet by knocking out undefeated 26-0 quick and slick southpaw Chris Byrd. Ibeabuchi was 20-0 with 15 knockouts, only 26 years old .. and he never fought again. Byrd: "I got a little arrogant, thinking I’m unhittable. Cause I just thought, Oh man, he can’t hit me! I’m gonna slip everything. And, boom, just got caught. When I got knocked down the first time, I got, literally, the canvas woke me up. I was asleep before I hit the ground, and when I hit the canvas it woke me up. I asked the referee why he stopped the fight? What are you doing? "The bell rung!" But my bell was still ringing, that’s what was ringing, was my bell." 245lb Ike Ibeabuchi would have been the heir to Lennox Lewis throne. The Klitschko's would have been gate keepers if he was around. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches and had a ridiculous work-rate with KO written all over his punches. *Little 5' 9" 184lb Rocky with tiny 67" flyweight reach gets flattened by the 245lb prodigy Ibeabuchi 10 out of 10 times and that's not debatable!* The way Rocky fans go on and on about how he's the best conditioned fighter that ever lived is laughable. So Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Marvin Hagler, Manny Pacquiao, David Tua and Ike Ibeabuchi never trained? What a Joke.
*Let's put Layne and LaStarza under the MICROSCOPE, shall we?* In 1952, Rex Layne LOST to no-name Willie James. Then Layne fought a 500 journeyman Bill Peterson TWO TIMES and won both. Then Layne LOST AGAIN to Harry Matthews, a light heavyweight contender. Name ANY TOP 10 RING HEAVYWEIGHT CONTENDER today who would still be rated in the top 10 if he lost to an unrated 12-2 opponent (James) and a light heavyweight contender? Layne would've been gone from the top 10. LONG GONE. Meanwhile, also in 1952, Roland LaStarza wins a decision over Dan Bucceroni (after LOSING to him FIVE months earlier) and Roland follows that up with a LOSS to the 14-9-2 Rocky Jones. Then Roland wins a decision over Rocky Jones. Neither of these guys, Rex and Roland, at this point, should've been rated in the top 10 AT ALL. They wouldn't be today, that's for damn sure. Both Layne and Roland ... LONG GONE. Then out of nowhere Rex Layne wins a 10 round decision in Utah against Ezzard Charles, in Ezzard's first fight after losing his fourth fight with Walcott. Ezzard stopped Layne in their previous fight. In their third encounter a couple months later, Ezzard would drop him three or four times and beat Layne again. BUT, on this night, the fight goes the distance. And the LONE official and "celebrity referee" Jack Dempsey scored it two rounds Rex, one Round Ezzard ... SEVEN ROUNDS EVEN for the local boy Rex. And the fans cheered. And the two Utah papers had Charles winning, by the way. Today, that would be SCANDALOUS. Layne clearly wasn't better than Ezzard. But based on that (2 rounds to 1, with seven even) scorecard ... REX LAYNE - who today wouldn't be rated going into that fight at all - gets rated #1 by Ring. And, in his next fight, before getting dropped and battered all over the ring by an angry Ezzard Charles, Rex takes on ROLAND ... coming off his rematch with the no-name Rocky Jones ... and Rex LOSES to Roland ... on what was considered a controversial decision, too. And Roland gets ranked #1. (Rating Rex #1 was bad enough. Passing the #1 rating along to Roland is probably worse.) Then Marciano signs to fight Roland ... because ROLAND IS THE #1 CONTENDER. And everyone goes "Well, Roland must've deserved it. He beat the #1 contender!" It's laughable. You want to talk about a dreadful series of ratings and situations culminating in Roland getting rated #1. That is brutal. Today, Marciano, Roland, Layne, celebrity referee Dempsey, and the entire Ring Ratings board, the National Boxing Assocation ... would be thrown under the bus. Back then, people were like, "Okay" Scandalous scoring. Ineptitude by the ratings body. Take your pick. LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf, and this is the best Rocky's era had to offer. These guys aren't topnotch professionals, more like decent Golden Glove boxers. Watch their fight. It's there. Don't just automatically assume they must have been good. Analyse the fight yourself. Witness the fight to understand how dreadful that division actually was. And to think low-power C-LEVEL Journeyman LaStarza was one of Marciano's top-tier opponents smh.
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
@@eddicarlo5362 He was the undefeated champion until his retirement, beating all the competition put against him, he had nothing else to prove. Try again.
@@eddicarlo5362ol. He beat ali. Plus he's 49-0. Undefeated heavyweight champion. He would have won more but died. You know nothing. He's the real goat. Everyone says ali is the goat. He beat ali. Which shows he is the best. Lol. Plus being undefeated made him the greatest ever
Tyson Fury is unbeaten and now retired or so he says unless he has the desire to fight the winner of the Usyk/Joshua rematch. Personally I think he lost to John McDermott.
The only HW champion to fight a half dozen of his second cousins under assumed names and the boxing commission was going to strip Rocky of his title so he conveniently retired.
@@rickyd4073 ain't nobody waiting two years to see these slow, lumbering mummified fighters slog all around the ring once every two years they might have a title fight.
Hum...Marciano...Not so Great? Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 18L 40-Year Old Club Fighter!...Joe Lewis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Christopher...Lee...AKA...Count Dracula!...Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley Howard of The Three Stooges! Pick A Decade...60s...70s...80s...90s..2000s...He would have been destroyed by the likes of Liston...Frazer...Norton...Forman...Holmes...HolyField...Tyson...Lewis...Klitschko...Ali...and Tommy Morrison...to name A Few! He was too small and steered to a list of washed up mediocre or zombie opponents! His Record ...Fight No One and Quit While You're Ahead! AKA Mediocre at Best! P.S. I Think Even The Count Would Have Beat Him!
Afro-Italians total population 1,096,089. Regions with significant populations Rome, Milan, Turin, Palermo, Bologna, Brescia, Bergamo and Florence. In 2014 alone over 170,000 migrants arrived which represented the biggest influx of people into one country in European Union history. 91 percent arrive via Africa. Although departing from Libya, most are from Ghana and Nigeria. Long long ago African Moors ruled over Italians. I can attest to this from my own DNA. My mother did one of those ancestry DNA tests, and her family is entirely from Sicily. So I, as a descendent of that same Sicilian DNA strand, have a bit of Rocky's bloodline in me as well. He's my second cousin. I am Sicilian Blackamoor Afroitaliani, born and raised in Italy, citizen of African descent. It's been proven time and time again that Rocco Francis Marchegiano aka Rocky Marciano is African Italian.
Quotes from Jersey Joe Walcott about Cassius Clay: *“Cassius Clay is the best heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”* Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated: *“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and moves too quickly for all of us old timers. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight.”* Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said: *“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance.”* *“I fought Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch.”* *RING, SEPT. 1965 WALCOTT INSIST ALI WOULD BEAT DEMPSEY, LOUIS, ROCKY, ETC. BY ED BRENNAN* In summary Jersey Joe has been around boxing for a long time and should know what he is talking about...should i believe you, a biased casual, or Jersey Joe ?
37 year old Joe Louis had already been fighting *"17 years"* with *(68)* fights and *(96)* fights before two million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing Marciano. *Louis' speed and punching power had all but evaporated evidenced by him scoring only 2 KO's in his last 12 fights!* Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, 184 lb Rocky was just entering his prime. 40 year old cruiserweight Walcott had already been fighting *"22 years"* with *(68)* fights before facing tiny cruiser Rocky. Walcott had an abysmal 44% KO's. Walcott being granted (6) title attempts in a (5 ½) year span (1947 to 1953) proves how shallow the division was. *And (5) of his title opportunities came immediately after a loss!* This is important. *Giant Abe Simon put Walcott into retirement for 4 years 4 months (1940 to 1944). Rocky himself said Walcott was only 90% @ 'The Marciano Tapes 3'.* Walcott's most notable victories include wins over light heavyweights Charles and Maxim. Combined Charles and Maxim lost (54) times. *Walcott lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times.* Light heavyweight Charles with the lowest ever 42% KO's had already been fighting *"15 years"* with *(95)* fights before facing Marciano in 1954. *Charles was already showing signs of ALS against Walcott in 1951.* *Charles was 100% factually handicapped when he fought Marciano!* It's in Ezzard's biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff.* *Charles lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times.* 42 year old light heavyweight Moore had already been fighting *"20 years"* with *(178)* fights before facing Marciano. Moore said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was." -@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears* Wouldn't that put Archie in his mid 40's? This was Rocky's last fight and he's only 31. Moore continued to fight till he was 50. *Who did Rocky fight when he was 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 and 50 years of age?* How many times would Rocky have lost if he had *(220)* fights like Moore had? *Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times.* In summary *Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Marciano never fought an all-time great in his prime and he was only 31 when he had his last fight.* It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over-accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."* ( @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight )
LYING AS TROLL! ROCKY MARCIANO NEVER FOUGHT A MAN ABOVE 38 ANS ALL OF THEM BESIDES JOE LOUIS WERE IN THEIR PRIMES!! THEY SAID SO!!!@@TheOriginalBobbyd
That look on Moores face after he knocked Rocky down, and he came back and clobbered him. You can literally see him thiink, "What the fuck, where the hell did this come from!"
@@jeremysears4263 Thank you for a more reasonable opinion, and without the "in-thing," teenage gutter talk that so many "men" love to use to make themselves feel tougher, and make their point seem, more dramatic. Lol And I do not want my kids or grandkids believing, this talk is classy. :( Yes, in the era, say 20 years from when Rocky first started, he was the greatest by a long-shot. Meeting Ali, both in their prime--do not forget, in any sports' field, evolution, definitely, plays a massive part of the equation. Ali was a modern artist and Rocky was mud-figher. I, assume, Ali, cuts Rocky up so bad, and with that confounding, evolutionary dancing, the ref would have to stop the fight? But Rocky would evade a knockout from this modern day, chosen, GOAT,
Rocky Marciano was different. He didn't toot his own horn like a lot of boxers with big egos. He trained like he wasn't a champion. Why a lot of boxers thought he was a big hype job. Only until they got hit, they gave him his due respect.
A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise... Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
Rocky ran 20 miles daily for 2555 (7 years) days nonstop. Keep in mind a marathon is 26.2 miles. In addition to his daily 20 mile runs he'd also include sprinting uphill backwards and shadowboxed under water for an additional 2 hours. Rocky was superhuman and will forever be my Hero. Peace to the fallen 😢
Best conditioned fighter who ever lived...great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...champ from 52 to 56...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan "One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston "Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis "The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali "My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield "Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier "Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles "Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott "Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore "Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer "Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali "Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza "One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman If that is not respect, I don't know what is
Marciano was named the 4th greatest Heavyweight of all-time by The Ring in 1994. Marciano was named the 7th greatest puncher of all-time by The Ring in 1997. Marciano was named the 9th greatest fighter of the 20th century by The Ring in 1999.
I went to school with his nephews in Brockton. they were down to earth with no egos at all and treated everyone with respect. That’s impressive seeing they were basically royalty and most kids that age would’ve been insufferable. Rocky’s legacy lives on. RIP Rock!!!
"Consider that in Dec. 1962 Ring magazine poll of 40 boxing experts it was Jack Dempsey that was rated the # 1 Heavyweight of all time with Joe Louis 2nd, Jack Johnson 3rd and Marciano finishing a distant 7th, way behind Dempsey. If he was considered 7th in 1962 how does he propel to the top 5, when since then we have had Muhammad Ali who faced much tougher competition, the big power hitting George Foreman, Larry Holmes who made 20 title defenses, the bigger, faster and more powerful Mike Tyson, and the giant Lennox Lewis who at 6’5” 245 pounds would enjoy a 60 pound weight advantage over Marciano? This is a key point. Boxing historians Herb Goldman and Charley Rose rated Marciano at # 8, "Mr. Boxing, himself," Nat Fleischer rated him at # 10 and John McCallum's Survey of Old Timers (survey of a group of historians and writers) had him at # 9. No major historian who saw Marciano in their lifetime thought he was a top 7 all time Heavyweight and 68 years have passed since Rocky retired." -- by Monte D. Cox, (IBRO) International Boxing Research Organization, 2004. So what happened??? How did little 184-lb cruiserweight Rocky with the shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach go from 7th ranked greatest heavyweight of all-time throughout the 60s and 70s all the way up to 3rd or 4th greatest Super Heavyweight in 2023??? He only fought 7 years and only defended his cruiser title 6 times while everyone else fought 15 to 20 years and defended their title/titles 10, 15, 20, 25 times. And the funniest thing is, he only defended his title against one cruiserweight and the rest were light heavyweights moonlighting as heavyweights bcz no top-notch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweights existed!!!
Had little 184lb-cruiser Rocky had a normal duration boxing career like EVERYONE else did he would have had to face the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Liston, Cleveland, Folley, Valdez, Johansson, Cooper, Miteff, London, Mildenberger, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Quarry, Martin and Ellis just to name a few. Instead he only dealt with light heavyweights similar to Matthews, Lowry, Charles, Moore. Little Rocky is damned lucky he QUIT when he did!
@@Studentofsweetscience The thing is, we will never know and all your conjecture makes no difference. See how that works? By the way, you listed Johansson twice. Does that mean you think there would have been a rematch? LOL
I wish there was a way to articulate what your talent means to my life. Your content sincerely brightens my mood. Thanks once again for sharing your gift with all of us, Joe Vincent.
Attribution note: quotes and facts about Ezzard Charles and his life are taken and attributed to William Dettloff’s book on Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life Ezzard Charles, who, from 1951 on, was suffering from the symptoms of ALS, (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as “Lou Gehrig’s disease.” Why did Charles keep fighting once he clearly had ALS? Charles was trying to earn a living for his family, and earn enough that they would be taken care of once he was gone. Charles kept fighting while he could not hold a fork, or button his shirt. In 1937, at 16, Charles began boxing as an amateur. He soon won the 1937 Ohio AAU Welterweight championship, in 1938, he again won the state AAU amateur title as a Welterweight, and in 1939 he won the Ohio state Middleweight championship, and then the National Amateur Middleweight crown. In 1940 he turned pro as a Middleweight, and by 1941 Charles had risen, by age 19, to be the number two contender for the world Middleweight title. But Dettloff documents how Charles was told bluntly that Zale would never give him a title shot, and the boxing establishment would back up his choosing to defend it against Billy Conn instead of Charles in his last title defense before the war. When he returned from the war, Charles was still shut out of a title shot at Middleweight, so he moved up to Light heavyweight. As a Light heavyweight, he defeated Archie Moore not once, not twice, but three times - and Gus Lesnevich, the Light Heavyweight champion refused to give him a title shot. So Charles, a natural Middleweight, went off to Heavyweight. Charles moved to Heavyweight in late 1947, and by 1948 was the #2 contender behind Journeyman Joe Walcott. According to Dettloff, titles were money, and the Heavyweight title was the richest of them all.’ Charles beat Journeyman Joe by a fifteen-round unanimous decision in 1949, to win the Vacant World Heavyweight Championship. *Charles is the only natural Middleweight in the modern age to win the Heavyweight title. Patterson never had a single fight at Middleweight.* Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe by a seventh-round knockout in 1951. Ailing and washed Ezzard tried to regain the Heavyweight Championship three times, losing once to Walcott in 52 and twice to Marciano in 54. Before Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe he was 73-5-1 in three of the original 8 weight classes. The last eight years of his career, when he was unquestionably suffering from ALS, really distorted his record. *“The heavyweight version of Charles,”* Dettloff sums up, *“would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at Light heavy and below.”*
Quotes and facts about Ezzard Charles and his life are taken and attributed to William Dettloff’s book on Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life Ezzard Charles, who, from 1951 on, was suffering from the symptoms of ALS, (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as “Lou Gehrig’s disease.” Why did Charles keep fighting once he clearly had ALS? Charles was trying to earn a living for his family, and earn enough that they would be taken care of once he was gone. Charles kept fighting while he could not hold a fork, or button his shirt. In 1937, at 16, Charles began boxing as an amateur. He soon won the 1937 Ohio AAU Welterweight championship, in 1938, he again won the state AAU amateur title as a Welterweight, and in 1939 he won the Ohio state Middleweight championship, and then the National Amateur Middleweight crown. In 1940 he turned pro as a Middleweight, and by 1941 Charles had risen, by age 19, to be the number two contender for the world Middleweight title. But Dettloff documents how Charles was told bluntly that Zale would never give him a title shot, and the boxing establishment would back up his choosing to defend it against Billy Conn instead of Charles in his last title defense before the war. When he returned from the war, Charles was still shut out of a title shot at Middleweight, so he moved up to Light heavyweight. As a Light heavyweight, he defeated Archie Moore not once, not twice, but three times - and Gus Lesnevich, the Light Heavyweight champion refused to give him a title shot. So Charles, a natural Middleweight, went off to Heavyweight. Charles moved to Heavyweight in late 1947, and by 1948 was the #2 contender behind Journeyman Joe Walcott. According to Dettloff, titles were money, and the Heavyweight title was the richest of them all.’ Charles beat Journeyman Joe by a fifteen-round unanimous decision in 1949, to win the Vacant World Heavyweight Championship. *Charles is the only natural Middleweight in the modern age to win the Heavyweight title. Patterson never had a single fight at Middleweight.* Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe by a seventh-round knockout in 1951. Ailing and washed Ezzard tried to regain the Heavyweight Championship three times, losing once to Walcott in 52 and twice to Marciano in 54. Before Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe he was 73-5-1 in three of the original 8 weight classes. The last eight years of his career, when he was unquestionably suffering from ALS, really distorted his record. *“The heavyweight version of Charles,”* Dettloff sums up, *“would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at Light heavy and below.”*
William Dettloff's biography of Ezzard Charles explains how Ezzard was ducked by champions in both the Middleweight and Light heavyweight divisions. As a result, he fought in the Heavyweight division despite never being a true Heavyweight. Post World War II for the next 15 years or so boxing was controlled by the International Boxing Club whose front man was sportsman James D. Norris. The guys really behind it were made Mafia guys Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo. Both Walcott and Charles had mobbed managers, Walcott one Nick Bocchicchio and Charles a pair named Tom Tennas and Jacob Mintz. You did as they told you and you got the matches that you needed to advance into contender ranks. After a reign of 11 years Joe Louis would retire. The IBC did an elimination tournament and Journeyman Cruiser Joe Walcott and natural Middleweight Charles were named the top two contenders and fought in 1949 and Charles won. Journeyman Joe eventually knocked Charles out in their 3rd fight. He gave Charles a rematch and retained the title in their 4th fight. And then along comes Marciano, behind on points, knocks Journeyman Joe out in the 13th round and becomes champion. Rocky had also knocked out an aging Joe Louis in 1951 before his championship bout. *Two of Marciano's title defenses were against Charles, winning a decision the first time and knocking him out the second. Charles was a spent force by that time. In 1965 Charles who could no longer walk or feed himself had a neurology consult and it was determined he had Lou Gehrig's disease. The illness wasn't officially reported to the public until 1968 but Ezzard and his family already knew something was wrong as early as 1951. Dettloff's biography is real and here to stay like it or not.*
Running 15 miles daily (in combat boots) he must have been incredibly conditioned not to mention having an iron jaw and meat hooks for arms. It said lots about his character the way he went right to Moore after winning to see if he was alright-and he even paid the medical bills for another victim he almost killed in the ring.
He was the best conditioned heavyweight of all time, people often mention his weight but when you remember he was running over half a marathon a day it's baffling he weighed as much as he did.
He was a high-school dropout who worked a series of dead-end jobs - delivering coal, laboring in factories making candy, beverages, and shoes, slinging hash in a diner, digging ditches, clearing land, and fixing sidewalks. But Marciano had two world-class skills. He could absorb a frightful beating, and he could knock men out cold. “I was a nobody,” he was fond of saying. “In the ring, I became a somebody."
Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles weighed a massive181 pounds when he won the Vacant HW title against Walcott in 1949. Charles had the lowest ever 43% KO percentage and weighed a Huge 182 pounds when he lost his HW title exactly 2 years later against who? Walcott of course. What a joke. The entire ordeal was between a LHW and two cruiserweights (Charles, Moore & Marciano).
40 Marciano opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs (F-level) Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs (D-level) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs (F-level) Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs (F-level) Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs (F-level) Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D to F-level) Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs (F-level) Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs (F-level) Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level) Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D to F-level) Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs (F-level) Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs (D-level) Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs (D-level) Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs (D-level) Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs (D-level) Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs (D-level) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less. Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less. Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less. Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less. Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see who he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less. Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents. Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck. Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-level resume. Problem is he was a natural middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight. Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. I thought this was the Heavyweight division? Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion? Even Marciano's best 3 opponents; Walcott-Charles-Moore lost (68) times and were KO'd (20) times. Marciano never faced an elite fighter in his prime. Name one, just one prime elite fighter Marciano beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore were in their prime when they fought Marciano? IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0...D AND F-LEVEL HOMELESS WALK-IN BOXERS TAKIN-DIVES AND PADDIN RECORDS FOR $$$...NUMBERS DO NOT LIE *In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine
37 LaStarza opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Marciano 183 lbs 25-0 vs. LaStarza 187 lbs 37-0. Their fight was officially called a draw then later changed to a Split Decision. Jessie Abramson of the New York Daily Herald said, "it was condemned around ringside as a miscarriage of justice." Anyhow here's LaStarza's first 37 D and F-level opponents: #37) Cesar Brion - 49 wins 11 losses with 36% KOs (C-level). Brian's career record looks okay until ya see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians. Walter Hafer - 22 wins 26 losses with 26% KOs (F-level) Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level) Jackie Lyons - 32 wins 24 losses with 23% KOs 23% (D-level) Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level) Jimmy Carollo - 36 wins 17 losses with 16% KOs (D-level) Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D-level) Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level) Bill Weinberg - 44 wins 22 losses with 34% KOs (D-level) Gene Gosney - 14 wins 5 losses with 42% KOs (C-minus level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level) Mike Jacobs - 14 wins 16 losses with 12% KOs (D-level) Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level) Mel McKinney - 8 wins 10 losses with 5% KOs (F-level) Teddy Georges - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level) Oscar Goode - 43 wins 23 losses with 20% KOs (D-level) Tony Gangemi - 21 wins 18 losses with 26% KOs (D-level) Benny Rusk - 20 wins 17 losses with 27% KOs (D-level) Fred McManus - 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) John Holloway - 2 wins 11 losses with 15% KOs (F-level) Claude McClintock - 1 win 9 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Steve King - 21 wins 11 losses with 17% KOs (D-level) Jimmy White - 9 wins 17 losses with 11% KOs (F-level) Frankie Reed - 2 wins 14 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Mike Belluscio - 15 wins 10 losses with 37% KOs (D-level) Luther McMillan - 13 wins 19 losses with 12% KOs (F-level) Fred Ramsey - 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KOs (F-level) Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Lorne McCarthy - 2 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs (D-level) Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Zeke Brown - 0 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level) Jim Johnson - 3 wins 22 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Jimmy Dodd - 8 wins 12 losses with 22% KOs (F-level) Al Zappala - 20 wins 27 losses with 9% KOs (F-level) Zack Johnson - 3 wins 7 losses with 10% KOs (F-level) Dave Glanton - 1 win 13 losses with 7% KOs (F-level) Promoters lookin for a way to get their prizefighters a big payoff will first invest thousands of dollars in padding his numbers against truly horrendous opponents. A guy who’s undefeated at 37-0, for example, might not be any better than a more seasoned boxer with a lousy record--The Ring Magazine I've studied King Fury, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Ike Ibeabuchi etcetera and little Marciano's division was truly horrendous and dreadfully awful.
There are some who never give up. There is nothing to do, they do not go down. And if they go down, they get up. You will always find them before you, maybe staggering, blood-filled, ready to step on. Sport teaches you cannot always win... They do not care, do not believe that, and always win: with a broken nose, with closed eye, a blood-red mouth. Rocky was like this. Rough, wild, fearless. His straight right punch was equivalent to a 9th grade richter. His left hook punch was an electroshock. He was not there to lose. An invincible.
Rocky was almost as popular as the President and so many sports writers across America was printing information about him during his championship years. Some of that material is rare and great sources of authentic information. Rocky Marciano: The 13th Candle Rocky Marciano: Training And Meal Of Great Champion The Rocky Marciano Story - 1954 Rocky Marciano's Book of Boxing and Bodybuilding Rocky Marciano: The Winner ! This Guy Marciano Rocky Marciano: A Life Story Rocky Marciano: Undefeated Heavyweight Champion Of The World Rocky: The Story Of A Champion Undefeated: Rocky Marciano The Fighter Who Refused To Lose Rocky Marciano: The Brockton Blockbuster Rocky Marciano: The Immortal Champion Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times Rocky Marciano: Biography Of A First Son Unbeaten And much more through boxing magazines, newspaper articles, 1952 LIFE magazine, 1955 Sports Illustrated, etcetera. I stand by the "5 pounds" built into his combat boots only through his early training years at the park next to his mother/father's house. When his training became more advanced he ran in Converse black-and-white version of the All Star tennis shoes.
"A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise..." Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Thats because apparently Rocky was a huge Joe Louis fan and when Rocky beat him, Rocky felt sorry for having to fight him passed his Prime and respected him, Rocky was also quite progressive for his era, challengening and befriending fighters reguardless of color and era, from Joe Louis to Muhammad Ali.
Marciano was the living embodiment of a warrior: Disciplined, relentless, tough, and humble. Also, a lot of people don't know this but he wrestled in high school and was pretty good at it too. Imagine if they had MMA back then and he competed? Truly one of the Greats.
Fun fact; Rocky was a swarmer, which meant he was a close range fighter. His arms measured 67 inches across, which was the shortest reach of any heavyweight (at the time), so he was unable to keep his opponents at a distance with jabs. Luckily, he made up for it with 3 tools that helped him to compensate which was able to carry him to both the Championship Title all the way to his final Title Defense. 1, his style; According to a TV interview, he had to improvise a sort of swashbuckling style that helped him get in close to his opponents. 2, his endurance; One of Rocky's best and greatest qualities was the fact that he could take so much punishment and still go after his opponent. 3, Suzie Q; Rocky invented one of the most well known punches in the world of boxing, a punch that kinda acted as his secret weapon, billed as the "Overhand Right From Hell", and named after a dance, it was the Suzie Q. It's said that this was the most devastating weapon in Rocky's arsenal and, according to a test done in the 50s, was said to have the power equivalent to that of lifting one ton a foot off the ground
I'm sure most Rocky fans remember that fictitious story about our military designing a gizmo inorder to test the light heavyweights punching power? Well Rocky's brother, Peter, said, *"His punches were measured by a professor at Harvard and there's a writing on it, and this professor gauged the strength of his punching blow to like X amount of pounds, it's almost like a small automobile hitting you."* --@ 42:01 Rocky Marciano: A Life Story | Full Movie | Marino Amoruso Harvard's only 27 miles away from Brockton, Rocky's hometown. What does gauge mean? Cambridge dictionary says, *"to make a judgement."* So there it is, a deceptive distorted erroneous misleading and untruthful story about our military building a machine to test little Rocky's power. And all along it was a hometown teacher *"writing"* a story about his hometown hero. *6' 4" 270 lb UFC Heavyweight Champion Francis Ngannou with 83" reach created the hardest punch ever measured in 2018. Ngannou recorded a punch of 129,161 units on a PowerKube.*
Roland LaStarza's interview about his two fights with Marciano: *"I'm sure as income taxes that I was the winner. Every reporter there said I was robbed. Before the first fight Al Weill promised us a return immediately if the fight was close. The next day he said, 'We don't want to go back'. After that he avoided us for 3 ½ years."* LaStarza discounted the stories about the damage Marciano inflicted on his arms in their second fight. *"There was a rumor after the fight that he hurt my shoulders and arms a lot, but the truth was that I had weak elbows from the fight before, and they were giving me trouble. With the state of my elbows I really could not give a good account of myself. During the fight I was under the influence of pain killers and I really needed them. Marciano couldn't hit me on the behind for the first five rounds.Then in the sixth I got hit on my bad elbow, the strength went out of me, and I just stood there from then on. He tried his damnedest to KO me but I was still standing in the end.* 'A RIVALRY FOR THE AGES: ROLAND LaSTARZA REMEMBERS THE MARCIANO WARS' by James Dusgate November 1990 Ring magazine page 46.
If 178 to 184 lb tiny cruiser Rocky was *all-Powerful* why didn't he ever break any bones? *He never broke one rib, one nose, one eye-socket, one jaw or detached one retina.* If he did i assure you every single Rocky fan on the planet would be talking about it, right? Marciano catches lightning in a bottle ONE time vs. Walcott and his fans automatically assume he's the most powerful puncher that ever lived. Rocky never had 43 KO's, half were TKO's. Count them. There's a Huge difference between KO's and TKO's. LaStarza and Cockell were still standing, correct? Rocky's entire legacy has been built around that "one" lucky KO against a guy that was at least 40 years of age, if not older. *Just before Walcott gets KO'd where are both of his hands? They are at waist level. Why? Bcz he's worn out and his reflexes are shot. Father time waits for no one!* Roland LaStarza with all his supposed "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels" only had minor surgery to remove tiny bone chips from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. Elbow arthroscopy is a minimally invasive procedure. It's a common boxing injury yet y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. Besides, Roland said, *"I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano."* (I have the article). Here's the newspaper article about Layne's tooth: *"Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gum shield."* ...So, Rex only sustained *"ONE"* broken tooth!!! This is important. *If all of Layne's front teeth were sheared off at the gum's it would have been virtually impossible for Layne to fight Charles exactly 3 months later! Correct?* Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slipping and falling on the ice. One broken tooth, what's the big deal?
The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. *He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."* So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. *It's no wonder Vingo said, "I WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR A CROWD" --source: The Saturday Evening Post by Carmine Vingo as told by Seymour Shubin* *Carmine Vingo's F-LEVEL opponents:* *1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* *2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* *3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* (Turner's only purpose was padding records). *4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another paid diver). *5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL* (Vingo Loses). *6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another Diver). *9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why). *10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* *11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* *12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why). *13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? Isn't it obvious? To pad his fraudulent resume). *15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* (Another 183 lb light heavyweight moonlighting as Heavyweight, they were dime a dozen back then). *16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought *FOUR* opponents *TWICE* within 16 bouts. The majority of his opponents had losing records. This is all to reminiscent of Roland LaStarza's resume). *17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* (Vingo actually fights a debuting amateur (0-0-0) just before he faces Rocky. Why? Worst division in boxing history). *18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses *A-minus-LEVEL for extremely short 7 year career. In comparison Moore had 27 year career.* (Vingo was completely outclassed and never had a chance from the get-go. I saw their Getty Museum pics and Marciano didn't have a single mark on his face, his eyes were wide open and clear). All this time i was mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight champ. Instead he was prepped for *SLAUGHTER JUST TO PLEASE A CROWD* --Carmine Vingo *WHAT THEY DID TO VINGO WAS A TRAVESTY*
As a Marciano naysayer, I see a very weak era between Louis and Liston. I think Walcott in the first Louis fight (where he was robbed of the title) and the Ezzard who beat Walcott the first time, then Louis to replace Joe as champ, both would have beaten Rocky, but like Joe both were past their prime when Rocky beat them. I see no great achievement in beating Cockell, LaStarza and Moore. Rocky was the best of a bad lot and had Liston started boxing when he was committing crimes and avoiding jail, you would never had heard of Rocky. Styles make fights and Marciano was tailor made for Sonny, who would taken Rocky out in the first.
There’s only a few who weren’t arrogant braggarts and Rocky was the only undefeated heavyweight champion,who was also humble.A lot of people always say what would’ve,could’ve should’ve but he remains the only undefeated heavyweight champion who retired undefeated heavyweight champion.
@@clintwalker6389 Rocky was not born with fast twitch muscle fibers like Mike Tyson. Put an additional 25 lbs on Marciano and he woulda moved slower than molasses. Mike was genetically gifted with fast fibers and came out the gate sprinting like 220 lb Quarter Horse. While 185 lb Rocky came out the gate shuffling forward like turtle. Prime Tyson KO's prime Marciano 10 out of 10 times!
The punch that KOed Jersey Joe is easily the best single Punch I’ve ever seen. I didn’t know it was possible to make a man’s head do that without killing Them.
@@gracedagostino5231 Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano! The man was seventy-six years old! Joe Louis always lied about his age! He lied about his age all the time! One time, Frank Sinatra came in here, and sat in this chair. I say, "Frank, you hang out with Joe Louis. Just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis?" Know what Frank told me? He said "Hey, Joe Louis is a hundred thirty-seven years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!
Not really. Rocky won his first pro fight, then went back to the amateurs and lost to Coley Wallace before turning pro again. That should not have been allowed
@First name Last name March 17, 1947. Rocky Marciano's pro debut in Holyoke Mass vs Lee Epperson. KO3 Marciano then had his 7th, 8th and 9th amateur fights in January/February 1948. March 1, 1948. Rocky's 10th Amateur fight. This one for the Golden Gloves All-East Coast Championships, New York, New York vs. Coley Wallace. L3 July12, 1948 Rocky's 2nd pro fight vs Harry Balzarian. KO1 Check out the dates on the internet and see if I am right.
Why do so many judge Rocky Marciano unfairly? He only had 12 amateur bouts and didn't turn pro till 24 years of age. Using Ali as a comparison, he had 180 amateur fights and turned pro at 18. What Rocky accomplished is astonishing in my opinion.
Don't let anyone tell you different, Marciano faced some very formidable hall of fame opponents. Walcott and Charles were not washed up when they fought him. They both fought the first fight brilliantly. While Rocky stopped the old mongoose it was a grueling fight. At first Moore seemed the better boxer but the Blockbuster would not be stopped. His incredible conditioning and brutal punching were all to much for Archie. Rocky defined what the heart of a champion is in this fight.
Soft spoken Lennox Lewis at his best was the total package. When he fought seriously he was pretty much untouchable. The last undisputed Super Heavyweight champion emerged as cream of the crop against some of the biggest punchers in Heavyweight history. Lewis avenged his only two defeats by knockout. He didn't make excuses for his only two losses, he said, "It's Heavyweights, you can get caught, but i won the rematches in style," and "Show me a Heavyweight Champion without a loss and i'll show you a fighter that fought a lot of nobodies." Lewis haters always say, "but he got knocked out twice ha-ha." Well i say, "Mike Tyson got knocked out FIVE times ha-ha, and Ali lost his best 30 years of retirement from having his faculties traumatized for an entire decade. Watching his head used as catchers mitt 100,000 times was ha-ha. IT'S NOT HOW YOU START IT'S HOW YOU FINISH." 58 year old Lennox is the GOAT. To hear him talk so clearly and eloquently after going up against 18 Heavyweight Champions is remarkable. *The 18 HW Champions Lewis faced: Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, Hasim Rahman, Oliver McCall, Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande, Tommy Morrison and Ray Mercer were later recognized as WBO champions, British HW champion Gary Mason, European HW champion Jean Chanet, Commonwealth HW champion Derek Williams, Canada HW champion Razor Ruddock, IBF/WBF HW champion Michael Grant, and WBC International HW champion David Tua...*[[ technically not all were 'World' champions but champions nonetheless ]].* Other notable mentions; *Olympic HW Silver medalist Riddick Bowe, Olympic HW Gold medalist Tyrell Briggs, Andrew Golota, Zeljko Mavrovic, Frans Botha and Phil Jackson* ..Name another Super Heavyweight with a better resume? Only person i can think of is Wladimir Klitschko. How many prime authentic 200+lb HW champions did little 184-lb cruiserweight with flyweight reach fight?? *""ZERO""!!!!* Imagine little Rocky trying to fight top-notch Super Heavyweights with 80" to 86" albatross wingspans and 40 to 100-lb weight advantages?? Think, people. Think.
How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter. Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula. Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges. Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!! Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
Walcott was out of his prime for both fights: Walcott - 37 & 38; Rocky 28 & 29. A boxers prime years was considered 28 to 32 y/o. Ya boy fought old men. hahahahaha
The way rocky spoke of his opponents makes you like him even more.
Right. I like him too.
*This montage has been spliced diced and edited to show best parts and crowd noise has been added-in. Editing can make any fight look slugfest. These guys are wide open and exposed. Casuals always wonder why they never see these types of amateurish face-to-face brawlers today? Well because they'd be obliterated that's why! Little Rocky looks awful and would be KO'd within seconds against today's 250 lb Super Heavyweights with 80" reach. When was the last time you saw a little 5' 9" 184 lb "Heavyweight" Champion with tiny 67" flyweight reach? These guys were toe-to-toe street fighters not boxers. I had no idea how bad boxing skills were back in the day. Modern Authentic Topnotch Super Heavyweights similar to 305 lb Miller, 285 lb Bakole, 285 lb Zhang, 285 lb Teremoana, 250 lb Kabayel, 250 lb Jalolov, 250 lb Parker, 240 lb Itauma, Usyk, Fury, Dubois, Ruiz etcetera would annihilate all these little light heavyweights within seconds and that's not debatable. Y'all Rocky fans are Moronic.*
@@Alien_Observer_LV-426 That’s just it ,,,he didn’t need to be
@@sam-sy8jy Maybe that's why Mr. Dream was in Punch-Out, because Mike Tyson wishes he had that level of respect, but doesn't. It made it seem like the note that came with the Mike Tyson copies were meant for Rocky to say those things, not Mike.
Shows class and humility. Can’t ask for more than that in the fight business, or any business.
“He doesn’t fight by the book, but I got hit by a library tonight” - Beautiful quote from (Joe Louis) one of the best boxers of all time in regards to his loss of Rocky Marciano.
Joe Louis was 175 years old when that fight happened.
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Who told you that? Frank Sinatra?
@Jason A My man, Rocky is a great fighter, he’s a great champion. But if you use logic you can understand that Joe Louis was only fighting at that time because the country turned its back on him and he had to fight for money and came out of retirement to fight. It took Rocky 10 rounds to beat a washed up Joe Louis. Again if you use logic you understand a prime Joe Louis takes care of business. That’s why Rocky cried after the fight he knew what they did to Joe.🤔
Its fucked up how the IRS did him tho..
They used the donations he gave the Army & Navy against him..
They humiliated that man..
@Fuck RUclips Someone never saw _Coming to America._
What other boxer would ever kiss another's coffin and weep?...those boxers in that era were real genuine men at their sport.
Most men were genuine men back then. Now we have a bunch of soft ass beanie wearin, man bun havin, pink haired video gamers.
now we're losing boxers that are genuine people that are truly humble like Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto
@@Rehd66 sadly true. Those were real men pure and simple. Hard men. Good men. My grandfather was one of them.
@@Rehd66 don't you have video game.footage uploaded to your page?
@@aboutthegiggins4236 Yes I have a video of a racing simulation with music to it from a while ago. What’s your point?
I loved Rocky Marciano's response when someone asked him what he was thinking when Walcott knocked him down in their first fight: "Gee, this fellow hits hard. I might have to get up a couple of times before I knock him out."
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Why do so many judge Rocky Marciano unfairly? He only had 12 amateur bouts and didn't turn pro till 24 years of age. Using Ali as a comparison, he had 180 amateur fights and turned pro at 18. What Rocky accomplished is astonishing in my opinion.
Great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
@@Steve_Whitlock they are words of a true fighter, doesn't accept defeat.
The Mob, Sleeping with Thousands of different People, Psychosis and other symptoms Marciano suffered. - *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
People say Joe Vincent should work for ESPN…I disagree, ESPN should work for Joe Vincent! Best sports documentarian of all time👍
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Ohhhhhhh that's good!!! You knocked it out with this one!!!
I say thank god he doesn't, imagine how much they would ruin his content.
Rocky was also the most humble of all boxing champions
He couldn't compliment his opponents enough
All heart and pure class !!
I would give you a thumb up, but your thumbs up right now is 49, and I wanted to leave it there.
You spelled Joe Louis wrong
@@DrooledOn that’s cute… 🙄
@@DrooledOn nah, he just wasnt talking about joe louis
Absolutely.
Jersey Joe Walcott: He is a bum!
Rocky Marciano: He's a very smart fighter, a durable fighter, a very great champion, I only hope that i could be as good as him! - A heart of a humble legend and a real GOAT
Muhammad Ali said, *"Even in his prime, Rocky Marciano had no chance with me. First thing, he is too little. Less than five foot ten to my six foot three inches. I’d overwhelm him. I’d lay on him in the clinches like a big old grizzly bear, and I’d smother his insides out. He was too small to reach me from outside. I’d jab him twenty to one. Rocky had a face that cut easily. Can you imagine what my stinging jab would do to those weak eyes? By round three, Rocky would look like he ran into a lawn mower. How could he beat me? No way, is how."*
This was before three Frazier fights, three fights with Ken Norton, and the George Foreman proved Ali's hypothesis. Ali too big, Ali too fast, Ali too strong a puncher, Ali too fast a jab, and the bad news, Ali too tough, takes heavy punishment well. I'm afraid Ali was right. Marciano, while a formidable opponent, wouldn't have lasted long.
Regardless of the script, Rocky seemed unable to pull his punches, whereas Ali could come within a fraction of an inch to making it look extremely real. Our problem was that Ali was getting madder and madder as Rocky thumped one hard shot after another off his ribs.
By the end of the second day, Ali stopped the filming to have a word with Rocky, *"Rocky, you're supposed to be pulling those body shots. You aren't, and they're hurting my ribs. Now, if we're going to have a real fight, then you will not be able to land those shots without me peppering your face with hard left jabs and right hooks, and if you do by chance land a body shot, you're going to take back a stinging right hand to the nose to break it again. Now, do we play movie or do we play boxing?"*
Marciano knew he was wrong. Secretly, he wanted to find out if Ali could take his best shots. To his surprise, he found that Ali could. End of the problem.
If you don't take anything away from this chapter, let me reiterate, commit this to memory: *"Ali would have beat Marciano if they had ever really fought."* - Ferdie Pacheco
*Source - Tales from the 5th Street Gym: Ali, the Dundees, and Miami's Golden Age of Boxing by Ferdie Pacheco 2010. Chapter 10, When Ali took on Marciano - The Fake Fight*
*(( IN SUMMARY ALI CHALLENGES ROCKY AND ROCKY DECLINED...AND THAT'S NOT JUST A THEORY OR A FABRICATED LIE...IT'S A FACT!!!! ))*
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici All bullshit. His family never filed a defamation suit because they didn't feel the need to dignify the slimy roach of a writer with an acknowlegement of his trash.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici Yeah, I dont think family members can sue for defamation over someone that has been dead for 50 years. Especially someone that is a public figure. You happen to have a precedent to contradict that?
Muhammad Ali, *"Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard* (unrecognizable) *folks in Africa."*
Cosell, *"But you think you could have beaten him too?"*
Ali, *"Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination."*
Cosell, *"You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."*
Ali, *"Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"*
Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. Why was the most important part removed?? *Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."*
*This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!* Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades! Truth is folks have removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano! Ali knew Marciano was deceased so he Lied when he said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier!* Y'all can order copies *@ Muhammad Ali Archival Television Audio Inc* just go to the *3rd page* to order 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore and Louis.. *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano." - Muhammad Ali, 02/15/76*
(As more proof Dave Diles explains Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore in depth @ 0:15 or very beginning of *1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
*Quotes from Jersey Joe Walcott about Cassius Clay:*
*“Cassius Clay is the best Heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”*
*“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen."*
Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated:
*“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and moves too quickly for all of us old timers.”*
Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said:
*“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations."*
*“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned."*
*“All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance."*
*“When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch."*
*"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange. Now, when Dempsey was fighting, he stood right over a man he had floored and hit him as he was getting up."*
(( Source - RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan ))
In summary Jersey Joe has been around boxing for a long time and should know what he is talking about....should i believe you,, a biased casual,, or Jersey Joe ?
Marciano was on a “no-lose” mission to achieving greatness and he did so by simply out-working and out-conditioning all fighting foes. His work ethic was nothing short of remarkably consistent and disciplined: hours of running, gym work, sparring, push-ups and sit-ups, countless medicine-ball thumps to the gut. Marciano was committed to his training regimen. Rocky is also remembered and honored for his class as an individual, not only his 49-0. He never boasted or ridiculed his opponents. Regardless what others may think, Rocky Marciano was a great champion.
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Granite' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
Great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton *HOW DID 178 TO 186 LB TINY CRUISER MARCIANO GO FROM 8TH PLACE DURING THE 1960's AND 1970's TO THE 4TH GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT IN 2024?* Because his ranking is determined by modern computer metric algorithms. Problem is this man-made program was coded to *EXCLUDE WEIGHT* from the equation. That's why 165 pound Heavyweight champion Bob Fitzsimmons from the 1800's is ranked ahead of giant Riddick Bowe who only had one loss! *AGE* is another code omitted from the metric.
Rocky ran at least 5 miles a day, 365, with several pounds of sand built into each leather combat boot designed by a local shoe mogul. When a fight was signed he'd run 8 to 10 miles, and usually the last week up it to 12 miles. He said, "if you train like i do, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." Rocky would also include running uphill forward, downhill backwards, repeat. I remember reading that quote several decades ago. Then out of nowhere i recently stumbled across an isolated vid and Rocky said, "this is where the road work pays off. If your up at the bust of dawn everyday while your training, running up and down hill, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." On top of that Rocky liked to walk another 5 to 10 miles in the late afternoon or evening. And he did all this in the hilly country around Grossinger's, where he trained. It was Rocky's obsession with conditioning that kept him training 365 days a year and this dedication gave him stamina never seen before in a fighter. It allowed him to set a blistering pace that no opponent could match.
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades:
Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.*
Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?*
Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much!
Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf.
Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!!
Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D.
Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights, and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. To continue claiming he was the Greatest or even top 10 Greatest Heavyweight is absurd. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
*"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
He was also an amazing person, he loved to help people in need!
That's 5 hours of just running. When did he hit the bag
You can be a technician in the ring but without cardio and endurance you will lose.
O
Absolute insanity this man was hitting people so hard he was destroying their arms as they blocked punches. A true people's champ and underdog story. The boxing GOAT
Lol
Simply unbeatable
@@ronaldbarnes1746 Lol..let them have their heroes..
He had lead in his gloves! Sonny liston was the real deal!
Tyson destroys these punchers in less than a round , Rocky would have zero chance whatsoever .
These punchers also had no defense , just punchers .
49 wins, 43 knockouts, 0 defeats. Rocky Marciano, a hero to all those who are told they can't.
@margot agree completely - simply the best ever
Khabib 29-0 while Rocky 49-0
@@martinkaljo8493 who's Khabib? Is this a dig at Fury, Klitschko? Who Khabib?
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which has been used for decades:
Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.*
Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?*
Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much!
Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf.
Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Walcott's losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins!!! The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division was at this time!!! And (4) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!!!
Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D.
Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed.
Even Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
*"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
@Dirtyjew1974 I agree with all the valid points you’ve raised - humans are getting bigger , taller and heavier - I guess nutrition , evolution and lack of hard industry now can account for that , Marciano beat every man that stood in front of him at that time , if it was possible to reincarnate him and place him in the ring today then yes I’m sure he would struggle with the bigger guys but anyone south of 200lbs would still be kissing the canvas!
The humility of Marciano, a true champion
"MOB " champion(?) -the 'TImes' and the elements that "controlled" the sport support more than just speculation.
@@MickyTubbs1985 Grumpy old racist.
yes a class act
he was never humiliated
@@MickyTubbs1985NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO FOUGHT OR KNEW ROCKY SAID THEY TOOK A DIVE.
ROCKY FREAKING HURT PEOPLE and you don't fight 15 rounds or brutality getting KOd the last round of your taking a dive.
Rocky was a gem and is so overlooked by casual boxing fans. I can’t believe the fighter people rank ahead of him
roberto duran better
@@zach-iq9xy Rocky never quit!
@@zach-iq9xy Rocky had more heart and power than Duran could ever dream of having.
@@abaddontheannihilator8144 No mas.
@@abaddontheannihilator8144 Rocky had better physical intimidation, but I'd say Duran has the mental edge in mental warfare
Man they had sportsmanship back then. All handshakes and smiles til fight time.
Boxing was dirty as hell back then
Amen was thinking the same thing
@@sjbrooksy45 still is lol
Class
And we didn't see the clownish, embarrassing stare-downs we have to endure these days.
The way Rocky throws punches from every conceivable point on the compass is not only fun to watch but inspiring. He was a perpetual motion punching machine that ground his opponents down like a hydraulic drill attacking a boulder.
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, "Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day," his uncle Charlie Piccento said, "he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one."
Marciano was single-mindedly determined to succeed. “I’ve been in this boxing business fifty years, and I’ve never seen anyone like you yet,” Goldman told the fighter after he became champion. “Work. Work. Work. Train. Train. Train. Sometimes I suspect you’re not even human.” Marciano’s work ethic and indomitable will to win were the key elements of his rise, along with a final ingredient, the only one supplied by nature: a right-hand punch that put even superior boxers to sleep.
*Per family request Wikipedia recently changed Archie Moore's birthdate from 1916 to 1913.*
Archie Moore said, *"I was in my 40's vs. Floyd Patterson."* --@ Rare Archie Moore Interview
The host asks Archie Moore, (@ 6:35) *"why does your mother say your one age and you say another?"* Archie replies, *"I don't deny anything"* .. *"I never deny what my mother quotes"* .. *"I know my age"* .. *"and I've befuddled a lot of people who are requiring about my age constantly"* .. *"and that keeps me in the news."* --@ Day and Night: Archie Moore, boxer
Archie Moore also said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was"* --@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears
Archie Moore was 41 vs. Marciano. For Pete's sake, *"December 13, 1913"* was written in his obituary.
*"Archie Moore, a.k.a., the “Old Mongoose,” was born under the name of Archibald Wright on December 13, 1913 in Benoit, Mississippi. On December 15, 1952 he became the light heavyweight champion at age 39, defeating Joey Maxim, thereby becoming the oldest light heavyweight champion in history. In 1955, just four months shy of his 42nd birthday, Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano."* - NEW WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA and The Historical Marker Database
Archie Moore was 41 years, 9 months, 8 days old when he fought Rocky.
*"ARCHIE MOORE became the light heavyweight champion at the age of 39. In 1952, four days after his 39th birthday, Moore secured a shot against light heavyweight champion Joey Maxim. He won the title by decision and held onto it for nearly a decade. In 1955, 41 year old Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano.* - written by International Boxing Hall Of Fame
Archie Moore fought Rocky Sept. 21, 1955 which makes Moore 41 years, 9 months, 8 days old.
Muhammad Ali, *"Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard* (unrecognizable) *folks in Africa."*
Cosell, *"But you think you could have beaten him too?"*
Ali, *"Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination."*
Cosell, *"You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."*
Ali, *"Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"*
Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. Why was the most important part removed?? *Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."*
*This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!* Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades! Truth is folks have removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano! Ali knew Marciano was deceased so he Lied when he said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier!* Y'all can order copies *@ Muhammad Ali Archival Television Audio Inc* just go to the *3rd page* to order 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore and Louis.. *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano." - Muhammad Ali, 02/15/76*
(As more proof Dave Diles explains Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore in depth @ 0:15 or very beginning of *1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici still got that L though
Such a shame you never hear much of Rocky when people refer to the greatest boxers. He truly deserves more respect and recognition in the hall of fame. He had something that most other champions never had, humility and respect for their opponents. A true man of class, undoubtedly the best boxer in history. Taken way too soon.
@@leewilliams2763 ROCKY was a light heavy what are you talking about lmao he fought 49 people. NOT bums. These were top guys in thier day. Foreman won the championship at 45. Age is just a number when guys are this size. Some of the guys he fought had 20-30 lbs on him.
@@ispartacus1337 The light heavy limit is 175 pounds...Marciano weighed 189lbs. People don't realize is that Marciano trained himself DOWN to that weight...he felt comfortable at 189 pounds. He almost always gave up height and weight to his opponents...
@@beatlejim64 I knew cruiserweight didn't come around until the 70s so in my mind I was thinking light heavyweight went up to 200 lbs in Rockys day. I knew Rockys fighting weight was around 185-188 something like that. But that was why I was calling him that.
Rocky also wasn't very tall so obviously the more weight he puts on over a certain threshold is just going to wear him out faster and he was always a take as much damage as possible and wear the other guy down. Where as Tyson who's the same height as Rocky walked around with 20 lbs on him which is crazy. But he finished his fights in the first few rounds. Completely different strategies. I don't know how much I would say Rocky "trained himself down to 188" that was just the weight he was most comfortable at. The man trained CONSTANTLY I think it was his constant cardio that kept him lean. Had to have been because as soon as he retired he ballooned up pretty quick. The man liked to eat!
Wonder how many of his fights was fixed. The mob had a big influence during that time. He also started boxing late in his career. Looks a little suspect. Look up his manager Frankie Carbo and his boss was.
@Turtle Smith don't act like the mob didn't control the boxing council back in those days please do your due diligence. All I'm saying Marciano is grossly overrated. And yes I'm sure a few fights were fix. A guy went on record and said the Mike Tyson vs Peter McNeeley was fixed. Look up Frankie Carbo and his ties with Murder Inc and Tommy Lucchese. It is what it is he also fought old greats past their prime Joe Louis and Archie Moore weren't the same boxers as before they were old in boxing standards.
All these guys calling Rocky a bum and he's just over there like "wow what a great fighter that guy is". Gotta love Marciano
MR BISHOP I WONDER HOW PEOPLE CAN CALL HIM A BUM ....ANY BOXER NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE ...WHT ..BLK ..BRN..BLUE ..PINK ..IF A BOXER GOES 49.0 HOW CAN U CALL A BOXER A BUM....IT ALL PERSONAL BS ...
Rocky Marciano the greatest Champion in the history of BOXING I call BULLSHIT 100%.
@@2932mike
Mmmm sounds like 👍 we have a Little Jealous VON VON On our Hands" Stop!!! Don't get your Panties
In a Wad Little VON VON" And please stop crying me a River" ( 40-0 ) NEVER LOST....A FIGHT HA! HA!
IT JUST SHOWES ME THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT BOTHER PEOPLE AND CANT ACCEPT HIM...I DONT CARE WHAT ..COLOUR ..CREED ..RACE...ANY BOXERS WHO GO 49...0 THE RESPECT FOR THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT MUST ME ACKNOWLEDGE...LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM ...HE DID VERY WELL FOR HIS ERA ..
@@2932mikeHe destroyed 4 all time greats and cleaned out all ranked fighters in his division.
He had the highest KO ratio of all time until vitali Klitschko came along.
Kind, respectful, gentleman, outside the ring. Savage, unstoppable beast, inside it.
Spot on pretty lady...That's how men should be but most fall extremely short of those attributes
You're drinking the Kool Aid; Marciano was a convicted street mugger and strong armed robber, who spent time in prison for beating up homosexuals and robbing then in England during the War, when he was in the Army. NO TELL US HOW SWEET AND GENTLE HE WAS. google it
@@ph5056 Please friend don't compare the 50's when we had class to today's inferior human beings
Paranoid psychoses, overly aggressive and violent behavior--(symptoms Marciano suffered)--@ '1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
Had little 184lb-cruiser Rocky had a normal duration boxing career like EVERYONE else did he would have had to face the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Liston, Cleveland, Folley, Valdez, Johansson, Cooper, Miteff, London, Mildenberger, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Quarry, Martin and Ellis just to name a few. Instead he only dealt with light heavyweights similar to Matthews, Lowry, Charles, Moore. Little Rocky is damned lucky he QUIT when he did!
Rocky was kindness, personified... humility, calm.. a generally happy guy.
R.I.P. Champ!
Muhammad Ali said, *"Even in his prime, Rocky Marciano had no chance with me. First thing, he is too little. Less than five foot ten to my six foot three inches. I’d overwhelm him. I’d lay on him in the clinches like a big old grizzly bear, and I’d smother his insides out. He was too small to reach me from outside. I’d jab him twenty to one. Rocky had a face that cut easily. Can you imagine what my stinging jab would do to those weak eyes? By round three, Rocky would look like he ran into a lawn mower. How could he beat me? No way, is how."*
This was before three Frazier fights, three fights with Ken Norton, and the George Foreman proved Ali's hypothesis. Ali too big, Ali too fast, Ali too strong a puncher, Ali too fast a jab, and the bad news, Ali too tough, takes heavy punishment well. I'm afraid Ali was right. Marciano, while a formidable opponent, wouldn't have lasted long.
Regardless of the script, Rocky seemed unable to pull his punches, whereas Ali could come within a fraction of an inch to making it look extremely real. Our problem was that Ali was getting madder and madder as Rocky thumped one hard shot after another off his ribs.
By the end of the second day, Ali stopped the filming to have a word with Rocky, *"Rocky, you're supposed to be pulling those body shots. You aren't, and they're hurting my ribs. Now, if we're going to have a real fight, then you will not be able to land those shots without me peppering your face with hard left jabs and right hooks, and if you do by chance land a body shot, you're going to take back a stinging right hand to the nose to break it again. Now, do we play movie or do we play boxing?"*
Marciano knew he was wrong. Secretly, he wanted to find out if Ali could take his best shots. To his surprise, he found that Ali could. End of the problem.
If you don't take anything away from this chapter, let me reiterate, commit this to memory: *"Ali would have beat Marciano if they had ever really fought."* - Ferdie Pacheco
*Source - Tales from the 5th Street Gym: Ali, the Dundees, and Miami's Golden Age of Boxing by Ferdie Pacheco 2010. Chapter 10, When Ali took on Marciano - The Fake Fight*
*(( IN SUMMARY ALI CHALLENGES ROCKY AND ROCKY DECLINED...AND THAT'S NOT JUST A THEORY OR A FABRICATED LIE...IT'S A FACT!!!! ))*
Muhammad Ali, *"Umm Marciano... Marciano, umm, phew, ooh he hit hard. He hit you so hard* (unrecognizable) *folks in Africa."*
Cosell, *"But you think you could have beaten him too?"*
Ali, *"Well it a been rough, look Howard, I don't take nothing from these fellas especially those deceased. Marciano and I were good friends, but I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him, probably not knocked him out, I been sore, I think he was better than Joe Frazier I'd put it that way. I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier. I think it be even, he may have won - it's just hard, it's just up to the imagination."*
Cosell, *"You know you started out with so much braggadocio, now you're ending with humility."*
Ali, *"Yea, you got the last man Marciano. Showing him last, you did the right thing. He wasn't as great as me, wasn't as beautiful everyone knows that. But I don't know if I would have beat him with his style and my style. He could've out-pointed me, could've knocked me down. Did a computer fight with him when he was an old man just pretending and my arms were so sore just for joking with him. In his heyday he may have won, he probably wouldn't... that's up for the imagination. In the end I still think I'm the greatest of all time!"*
Later, in part 6 Ali flips a script saying that *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."* He then goes on to his usual *"I'm the greatest"* after part 6. Why was the most important part removed?? *Ali said, "a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano."*
*This valuable information has been suppressed for 48 years!* Imagine all the uploaders that have been entering incorrect information for decades! Truth is folks have removed 3 hours 28 minutes because it didn't align with their agenda! *The Fact is Ali Hated Marciano! Ali knew Marciano was deceased so he Lied when he said Marciano was better than Joe Frazier!* Y'all can order copies *@ Muhammad Ali Archival Television Audio Inc* just go to the *3rd page* to order 9889 is 90 MIN, 9889A is 30 MIN and 9890 is 90 MIN. That's 3 1/2 hours of Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore and Louis.. *"a prime Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore would've beat Marciano." - Muhammad Ali, 02/15/76*
(As more proof Dave Diles explains Ali discussing Marciano Walcott Charles Moore in depth @ 0:15 or very beginning of *1976 Daytona 500 - ABC Wide World of Sports coverage* from NascarAllOut)
When "The President" Nigerian Ike Ibeabuchi met "The Tuamanator" Samoan David Tua the Nigerian got out to an insanely fast start, throwing 91 punches in round one according to CompuBox, 91 again in round two, and 95 in round three, obscene numbers for a Heavyweight. By the final bell, Ibeabuchi and Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the Heavyweight record set by Ali vs. Frazier III, when they combined for 1,591 punches - in 14 rounds, two rounds more than Ibeabuchi and Tua had to work with. Ike threw 975 punches, the most ever by a single Heavyweight. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of this epic "tribal" battle and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226lb Tua's record stood at 27-0-0 23KO's while 236lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0-0 12KO's.
This fight is the stuff that dreams were made of. Two Super Heavyweight warriors stood toe to toe exhibiting exceptional heart and endurance. Both boxers threw bombs and neither took a backward step.
After the fight Ibeabuchi complained of a headache and was taken to a hospital. He underwent several tests including an MRI scan but nothing abnormal was found and was immediately released. A week after the fight Tua had surgery to remove bone chips from his left elbow.
And Ike's in🎃sanity had nothing to do with anything he injested lik-roids, he was too paranoid of medications to take anything illegal. Ike was an anomaly, one in a million.
No heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, and he believed that he was the King, that nobody could beat him. He’d walk into the ring and you would almost have this vision of a bull coming at a matador with the steam coming out of the nostrils. Unfortunately, here was a very scary man both in and out of the ring. And it’s unfortunate that we’ll never know what could have been.
Bob Arum: "I don’t know, but it was the Heavyweight division and people love a puncher, and while he probably couldn’t have made what Mike Tyson made, but he would have been damn close. You know, hundreds of millions of dollars, sure. But again, again, that’s life, that’s life. You have to be a person, you have to be sane, you have to comport yourself with some kind of dignity and some kind of grace in order to realize that type of reward, and he couldn’t do it."
21 months later, 245lb Ibeabuchi confirmed that he was indeed the best up-and-coming heavyweight on the planet by knocking out undefeated 26-0 quick and slick southpaw Chris Byrd. Ibeabuchi was 20-0 with 15 knockouts, only 26 years old .. and he never fought again.
Byrd: "I got a little arrogant, thinking I’m unhittable. Cause I just thought, Oh man, he can’t hit me! I’m gonna slip everything. And, boom, just got caught. When I got knocked down the first time, I got, literally, the canvas woke me up. I was asleep before I hit the ground, and when I hit the canvas it woke me up. I asked the referee why he stopped the fight? What are you doing? "The bell rung!" But my bell was still ringing, that’s what was ringing, was my bell."
245lb Ike Ibeabuchi would have been the heir to Lennox Lewis throne. The Klitschko's would have been gate keepers if he was around. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches and had a ridiculous work-rate with KO written all over his punches.
*Little 184lb cruiserweight Rocky Marciano gets flattened by the 245lb prodigy Ike Ibeabuchi 10 out of 10 times and that's not even debatable!*
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez Guess what friend? None of what you said means anything. rocky was the greatest of his era. Clear?
This was one of the best documentary biography of a legendary boxer. I had no idea he died so tragically a sad ending and a tough life people lived back in those days.
Nersyankees
Check out Unforgivable Blackness for another epic documentary about Jack Johnson. It’s 3.5 hours but well worth it!
This man came back from the scariest war and brought it in the ring
Easily the most underrated champ in boxing
Seems the G.O.A.T.S. have that in common, as in Ted Williams....
He is not underrated man
@@ryanharris7891 He is underrated , 50% of the boxing fans think of the movies with stallone when you mention rocky marciano ...
@@Komap619 Take a look at boxing fans pages on social media a good portion of boxing fans generally think Rocky would beat fighters like Lewis, Tyson, Ali etc. From what I've read/seen from Boxing fans over the years, I'd argue boxing fans overrated Rocky.
Myself, I don't think it's right to compare fighters from different eras, the guy beat everybody he fought. Though it would've been interesting to see Rocky fight Sonny Listen.
Also, 50% is a big number without a source to reference.
@@ryanharris7891 yeah especially since these eras have massive weight differences its like saying Muhammed Ali should fight Tyson fury.
Rocky was a never ending onslaught of cardiovascular brutality. He had a chin that allowed him to exchange and let him set his feet to put guys under. He also had some of the sneakiest footwork and underrated defenses the sport has seen.
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Granite' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
"A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise..." Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Archie Moore was 39, and on a 21 fight win streak, the longest of his career, all against younger opposition. He was prime. Joe Walcott was 38 and the Heavyweight Champion. He was also prime. Charles was 33, a year and a half older, and prime. Louis was 37, but had just won 8 straight. Rocky only had four years under his belt when he faced Joe Louis. Rocky had great wins over great fighters and champions.
He was a true champion. He had work ethic, determination and never said anything negative about his opponents. Just a real role model and class act. RIP Rocky.
What I never knew about his retirement or how he died I did hear about that knockout punch that he called the Susie q now I have to give it to him I always have to get credit where credit is due yes he was a great champion sorry to hear how he died rest in peace 👍
Why would he say anything bad about his cousins who were fighting him repeatedly under assumed names.
@@aarondigby5054 That's a total Urban Legend.
@@aarondigby5054 - found the shine muligyan hating on rocky
Muhammad Ali said, *"Even in his prime, Rocky Marciano had no chance with me. First thing, he is too little. Less than five foot ten to my six foot three inches. I’d overwhelm him. I’d lay on him in the clinches like a big old grizzly bear, and I’d smother his insides out. He was too small to reach me from outside. I’d jab him twenty to one. Rocky had a face that cut easily. Can you imagine what my stinging jab would do to those weak eyes? By round three, Rocky would look like he ran into a lawn mower. How could he beat me? No way, is how."*
This was before three Frazier fights, three fights with Ken Norton, and the George Foreman proved Ali's hypothesis. Ali too big, Ali too fast, Ali too strong a puncher, Ali too fast a jab, and the bad news, Ali too tough, takes heavy punishment well. I'm afraid Ali was right. Marciano, while a formidable opponent, wouldn't have lasted long.
Regardless of the script, Rocky seemed unable to pull his punches, whereas Ali could come within a fraction of an inch to making it look extremely real. Our problem was that Ali was getting madder and madder as Rocky thumped one hard shot after another off his ribs.
By the end of the second day, Ali stopped the filming to have a word with Rocky, *"Rocky, you're supposed to be pulling those body shots. You aren't, and they're hurting my ribs. Now, if we're going to have a real fight, then you will not be able to land those shots without me peppering your face with hard left jabs and right hooks, and if you do by chance land a body shot, you're going to take back a stinging right hand to the nose to break it again. Now, do we play movie or do we play boxing?"*
Marciano knew he was wrong. Secretly, he wanted to find out if Ali could take his best shots. To his surprise, he found that Ali could. End of the problem.
If you don't take anything away from this chapter, let me reiterate, commit this to memory: *"Ali would have beat Marciano if they had ever really fought."* - Ferdie Pacheco
*Source - Tales from the 5th Street Gym: Ali, the Dundees, and Miami's Golden Age of Boxing by Ferdie Pacheco 2010. Chapter 10, When Ali took on Marciano - The Fake Fight*
*(( IN SUMMARY ALI CHALLENGES ROCKY AND ROCKY DECLINED...AND THAT'S NOT JUST A THEORY OR A FABRICATED LIE...IT'S A FACT!!!! ))*
Only now did I realize how brutal Marciano fights were back then. No wonder when Mike Tyson's time came, my mother always talked about Rocky. Truly a role model. A true people's champion.
You can see Tyson used some of Rockys moves.
@@lenren2004 Tyson nor Rocky had the fleet footwork to get out of trouble, just stand there and take the punishment.
In the beginning Tyson had that killer instinct, but he got derailed along the way and became a mediocre boxer...
"He's a very smart fighter, a very durable fighter, and a great champion.." - Rocky Marciano
This is what Rocky Marciano said in his post fight interview after his KO victory over Jersey Joe Walcott. The whole interview he gave nothing but praise to his opponent, and meant every word of it. He referred to him as a "true champion", and sincerely saw him as exactly that. And that was after Jersey Joe called him a bum, and spent weeks before the fight disparaging Marciano in the press every chance he got. Marciano had every right to rub that knockout in his face, yet he chose not to.
You don't see very much of that kind of professional sportsmanship and class in fighters anymore. Its really sad. That is the kind of class that every World Champion should carry himself with. They simply don't make 'em like they used to, i guess...
The entire world has lost its morality and class. its so sad. I can't stand the stupidity of today's mentality. Humility, graciousness, and common decency are almost entirely absent. It's why politically people are willing to do the unthinkable to each other and we are staring at human rights abuses. What is so funny is that no hints of racist overtones back then at a time when there was still segregation. Everyone black and white conducted themselves with class.
You are absolutely right, take wilder vs fury 3 for example. Right after the fight ended wilder did not show any respect to fury despite correcting it later on on social media with a clear help of PR consultors the fact remains as you say. There is no class no more especially in american fighters!
I reckon the Pacman counts. Both pretty hard workers with endurance too. Makes you wonder if it's a whole mindset thing....
Rockys light burns forever RIP rocky
@Juan Ruiz Art I just wish more fighters, more athletes, and more people in general were like that. Whether they are Catholic or not. Rocky Marciano's post fight interview i think could be the gold standard of class and professionalism that a younger generation should look up to.
Thundering fists, bloodied gloves, sweltering heat and a chant that would build and erupt: rocky, Rocky, ROCKY! He earned his 49-0 with raw intensity, rainmaker hooks and spring-loaded uppercuts. Marciano was relentless and tougher than a coffin nail.
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said, "after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning."
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, "Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day," his uncle Charlie Piccento said, "he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one."
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
God I love that “No one brings it home like Joe Vincent” thingy or whatever it’s called
Make it so
I believe you're referring to what they call the 'outro' in the YT biz and yes, it is a good one that usually means you've just watched one helluva great video!
Called a "stinger"
Wow!.... perfect timing.....
Tag
I've never heard Rocky's story until now and that unexpected ending with the planecrash really got to me. Such a great fighter in and out of the ring, gone too soon. RIP legend
The International Boxing Club Of New York was the dominant promotional power in boxing. It controlled the sport at Madison Square Garden and other major arenas. It had contracts for regularly-scheduled fights on the emerging medium of television. And it had links to organized crime; most notably through Frankie Carbo.
“Carbo,” Russell Sullivan explains, “established a well-organized centralized system of control over boxing. The system featured scores of managers who operated as front men for Carbo. Once a promising fighter arrived on the scene, one of Carbo’s managers would muscle in on his ownership. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence.”
Teddy Brenner, who worked for Al Weill in the late-1940s and subsequently became president of Madison Square Garden Boxing, later acknowledged, “Carbo had his fingers on the throat of boxing. If he did not own a certain fighter, he owned the manager. Weill was a boxing politician who held hands with the mob. When Weill was Marciano’s manager, he was controlled by Carbo.”
In May 1949, Weill became the matchmaker for the International Boxing Club. That meant Marciano could fight against carefully chosen opponents when and where Weill wanted. Marciano wasn’t the first fighter to be moved by people of influence. Nor will he be the last.
It’s what happened after the first LaStarza fight that really blemished Marciano’s career by taking a major step back in competition. Rocky’s handlers were afraid to put him in with anyone who could pose much of a threat after coming so close to tasting defeat.
His next opponent was F-level Eldridge Eatman who had lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Everybody knew it was a gimme fight for an undefeated fighter. Then there was F-level Ted Lowry who had a career record of 71 wins 68 losses. Marciano was picking and choosing his fights his entire career.
Marciano's 32nd fight was against F-level Keene Simmons who had a career 8 wins 8 losses. His 33rd fight was against F-level Harold Mitchell who had a career 4 wins 17 losses. 34th fight was against F-level Art Henri who had a career 13 wins 14 losses. And his 35th fight was against F-level Willis Applegate who had a career 11 wins 14 losses.
It's clear as day Frankie Carbo and Al Weill padded Marciano's resume his entire (but very short) career. Marciano's career motto was: "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
So Marciano threw 100 punches in a round? Lol give me a break. Number one Marciano only weighed 185. So even if he threw 100 punches in a round what would that prove? Why compare a light heavyweight punch numbers to a true-Heavyweight. Only sik-minded fanboys would even try to compare.
If 42 year old light heavyweight Moore and 38 year old cruiserweight Walcott could drop little white Rocky then the Tyson's, Foreman's, Klitschko's and Ibeabuchi's of the world woulda kilt him. How can a 185 pound man even be considered an ATG Super Heavyweight when he was barely cruiserweight?
Marciano could train 1000 years but prime Ali would still crush him. Since Marciano struggled with light heavyweight Charles who was a good boxer, but was smaller weaker and slower than Ali, what makes you think he'd do better against Ali?
I cry like a baby every time I watch footage of this excellent fighter and even better human being. RIP champ!
Do you really lol
@@AmericanJohnGrass Are you jealous? It’s ok to cry big man. You should let go sometime
@@derekgambill3394 maybe I’ll watch some videos of Jerry West. That usually gets me
185 lb Marciano swinging wildly against light heavyweights moonlighting as heavyweights is one thing. Swinging wildly against topnotch prime Super Heavyweights (220 to 270 lbs) is an entirely different story. Little Rocky's reach was only 67" inches (same as a bantamweight).
@@Bronco_Billy_Jack_HillsYour lips lapping up the cazzo nero 😂🤡
In Undefeated: Rocky Marciano - The Fighter Who Refused to Lose By Everett Skehan, it is documented that Rocky refused to take phone calls in camp. He didn’t want radios, (It was before the widespread use of television) or newspapers, or discussions about anything except boxing and training. He had no contact with his family or anyone in the outside world. He was there solely to train from before sunup to after sunset.
Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning.
In camp, he would run in the morning, and fast walk another 10 miles at night.
He also did wind sprints during the day. He liked to run short distances, a couple of hundred yards, up a hill in training as fast as he could, and then run back down facing backwards. And then he repeated over and over until he was exhausted.
He used a speed bag but not like anyone else does or did, he would hit it with hooks and slow power shots to work on his accuracy.
He trained using a custom made 300 pound heavy bag.
He would power clean a giant rock and toss it forward with both hands (the rock weighed over a hundred pounds).
He did crunches that combined kicking a heavy medicine ball out to the trainer
He believed in calisthenics, and did up to several hours worth in addition to everything else.
Several days a week Rocky went shoulder deep in a swimming pool and threw hundreds of underwater punches for up to an hour.
And then, in the late afternoon, Rocky would spar.
Rocky literally trained every day from before sunup, to after sundown. So he could do 15 rounds.
No science based training today could match Rocky’s old time regimen for intensity, or his old time trainer, Charlie Goldman for knowledge. There isn’t a trainer today capable of taking Rocky Marciano and making him undisputed champion.
There is a price for that toughness and peerless conditioning. Rocky had to train year round, and he trained in between fights harder than most fighters train in camp.
Rocky said after the Lester amateur fight: "I will never be outworked again.”
And he wasn’t.
Rocky Marciano summed up his philosophy simply:
“Greatness is getting up when you go down, and keeping on when you think you can’t. Greatness is winning when nobody thinks you will, or fighting on when you know you are going to lose, but you can’t give up.”
And that will, that ferocious desire to win, those hours, days, months, 8 straight years of training every day, is what made Rocky Marciano a Champion when he was always smaller, usually slower, and with less reach.
Rocky was almost as popular as the President and so many sports writers across America was printing information about him during his championship years. Some of that material is rare and great sources of authentic information.
Rocky Marciano: The 13th Candle
Rocky Marciano: Training And Meal Of Great Champion
The Rocky Marciano Story - 1954
Rocky Marciano's Book of Boxing and Bodybuilding
Rocky Marciano: The Winner !
This Guy Marciano
Rocky Marciano: A Life Story
Rocky Marciano: Undefeated Heavyweight Champion Of The World
Rocky: The Story Of A Champion
Undefeated: Rocky Marciano The Fighter Who Refused To Lose
Rocky Marciano: The Brockton Blockbuster
Rocky Marciano: The Immortal Champion
Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times
Rocky Marciano: Biography Of A First Son
Unbeaten
And much more through boxing magazines, newspaper articles, 1952 LIFE magazine, 1955 Sports Illustrated, etcetera.
I stand by the "5 pounds" built into his combat boots only through his early training years at the park next to his mother/father's house. When his training became more advanced he ran in Converse black-and-white version of the All Star tennis shoes.
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
This man is the prime example of the phrase “built like a brick wall”
Up here in Michigan we say " built like a shit brickhouse "
In England we say ‘built like a brick shithouse’
He had an iron chin.
I’ve only heard it as “built like a brick shithouse”
@@nigecheshire9854 was goin to say exact same thing..🤣😂👍👍👍
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse when I say this on every video you make, but the quality of your documentary videos are on par or better than all of the 30 for 30 ESPN documentaries I've seen. Your work is second to none. Thank you for doing all this. It's not hard to tell as a viewer when someone cares about what they are presenting to you. You can tell that you really enjoy this
Someone needs to make an A-list biopic (or HBO T.V series) about Rocky Marciano's life A.S.A.P. I Enjoyed the Michael Jai White Tyson film, as well as Ali and Cinderella man, and especially The Fighter but Hollywood really needs to pay tribute to this legend. R.I.P Rocky Marciano 🙏🏽
@@enterthebruce91 wait so the movies named rocky weren’t based on rocky
@@finalboss3893 Rocky Balboa was probably somewhat inspired by Rocky Marciano but I've never seen a high budget Hollywood Biopic or T.V series based on Marciano's life.
Ali put Rocky in the hospital for an entire week after their choreographed sparing match. *"Rocky entered the hospital for dehydration, torn bicep and exhaustion."* - Peter Marciano ... I've seen the Getty images and Rocky looked terrible! He was only 45, wearing a wig, had zero muscle tone and fat was hanging everywhere!
That's not all. Y'all can clearly see Ali was at least 6" taller! Don't believe for a second that Rocky was 5' 10". Rocky was actually 5' 9" (1.75 meters) according to Rocky Marciano's biographer John Cameron; his reach was 67 inches (1.70 meters)--incredibly short for Heavyweight; by way of comparison today's Bantamweights (115-118 lbs) average 67.7".
There is no question that little Rocky was superbly conditioned by the standards of the day; however, at his average fighting weight of 183 lbs/83 kg, between 178 and 188, he was not incredibly lean and he was not dehydrated; he was, in other words, a natural light heavyweight. He only weighed 170 when he boxed for the military. Frazier was a genuine 205 lb Heavyweight. Marciano was a genuine 184 lb tiny Cruiserweight. Usyk weighs 223 not 184. Zhang and Bakole weigh 285 not 184. Miller weighs 305 not 184. Weight matters and numbers don't lie!
Miller weighs - 305
Zhang - 285
Bakole - 285
Teremoana - 285
Ruiz - 275
Briggs - 265
Grant - 265
Fury - 262
Jalolov - 253
Parker - 250
Foreman - 220/250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Lennox - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Dubois - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Itauma - 240
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Thomas - 225
Usyk - 223
Lyle - 220
Tyson - 218
Holmes - 218
Wilder - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
Frazier - 206
Dempsey - 187
*Moore - 175 lb Light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962.*
*Charles - 181 lb Heavyweight champion with lowest ever 42% KO's.*
*Marciano - 184 lb Heavyweight champion with 67" flyweight reach.*
Little Marciano's era was undoubtedly the smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history and that's not even remotely debatable!
I never knew he died that way, what a shame. He was so respectful of all fighters and a gracious champion. R.I.P.
Its horrible he was decapitated in the accident
Just think about it like this, He was such a tough son of a bitch it took a fucking plane crash to kill him
Yes sad to hear. Yes only a plane crash could defeat him . True tough guy, with a heart. Paying for LaStazas medical bill etc
Same I just always thought he died of natural causes never actually looked it up
“Marciano had something you can’t teach, which is brutality”
A voice rang in his opponents ears as they hit the floor, as they heard it yell the word : "Fatatlity"!!!
Determination
Ya he was viscous! Most of his punches were murderous !
@Malleon Willis I think the opponents back then even though they weren’t champions were brutal as well! Rocky took massive punishment! In order to get inside where he needed to be ! The punishment he took and kept on coming and seemed to never really be hurt is ehh I think he’s best . Those shots he took would probably have killed most people! And his Cardio is legendary he ran 15 miles daily in combat boots that was probably his secret, he always had gas in his tank his punches always had something behind them !
@Malleon Willis in actually boxing probably not ! But I doubt anyone could knock him out and he had the powers to knock anyone out but ya your right it’s different mike Tyson was a savage and he could actually box maybe Tyson would of knocked him out! It would be awesome to see!
Joe Louis and Rocky were magnificent champions.
They proved that you can be humble and still be the best.
Better, a gentlemen.
@@simonemiglioli1165 A gentleman that served 2 years in prison for felony assault and robbery.
@@simonemiglioli1165 A gentleman that abandoned his kids and wife, Barbara, to sleep with thousands and left them penniless.
Soft spoken Lennox Lewis at his best was the total package. The last undisputed Heavyweight champion emerged as cream of the crop against some of the biggest punchers in Heavyweight history. Lennox avenged his only two defeats by knockout. He didn't make excuses for his losses, he said, "It's Heavyweights, you can get caught, but i won the rematches in style," and "Show me a Heavyweight champion without a loss and i'll show you a fighter that fought a lot of nobodies."
In my opinion Lennox Lewis is the GOAT. To hear 58 year old Lennox talk so clearly and eloquently after going up against 18 Heavyweight Champions is remarkable.
The 18 HW Champions Lewis faced: *Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, Hasim Rahman, Oliver McCall, Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande, Tommy Morrison and Ray Mercer were later recognized as WBO champions, British HW champion Gary Mason, European HW champion Jean Chanet, Commonwealth HW champion Derek Williams, Canada HW champion Razor Ruddock, IBF/WBF HW champion Michael Grant, and WBC International HW champion David Tua...[[ technically not all were 'World' champions but champions nonetheless ]]. Other notable mentions; Olympic HW Silver medalist Riddick Bowe, Olympic HW Gold medalist Tyrell Briggs, Andrew Golota, Zeljko Mavrovic, Frans Botha and Phil Jackson*
How many prime topnotch genuine
200+lbs Heavyweight and 224+lbs
Super Heavyweight Champions did
184 lb tiny cruiser Marciano fight???
I always find it amusing the way Rocky fans belittle Lennox for being KO'd twice yet always fail to mention the *((28))* times Walcott Charles Moore Layne LaStarza were KO'd and the *((94))* times they lost.
Who KO'd Lennox?
Hasim Rahman 6' 3" 240 lbs 82% KO's with 82" reach was a genuine Super Heavyweight, *not a 184 lb tiny cruiser with tiny 67" flyweight reach.*
Oliver McCall 6' 2" 240 lbs 82" reach was a genuine Super Heavyweight, *not a 184 lb tiny cruiser with tiny 67" flyweight reach.*
Imagine little Rocky trying to
fight topnotch Super Heavyweights
with 80" to 86" albatross wingspans
and 30 to 100 lb weight advantages?
*What a Joke.*
more than 50 years after his passing he is still a role model of sportsmanship
a role model of humanity.
Along with Jim Brown and Sandy Koufax Rocky is truly an Icon.
Role model to all man, always believe in yourself, work hard and get up stronger everytime you fall. Just like Ayrton Senna...pursue the perfection to no end.
His incredible strength and skills took a backseat to his real measure of the man - integrity, sportsmanship and an indomitable spirit.
What's truly amazing is that he fought at his natural weight. He would even eat a steak and drink a huge glass of water before weigh in to make weight. He was smaller than all of his opponents. Some guys can cut 20 lbs.. so on fight night, his opponents were often 6 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier than him.. and he would beat them to near death in under 4 rounds.. he knocked out 2 different fighters with liver punches
Joe Louis (who went 66-3) once wrote that Marciano was the fiercest puncher he ever faced. In light of Louis’s opponents, that would mean Rocky swung harder than Max Baer, Primo Carnera, Max Schmeling and Jimmy Braddock.
I'm not sure if he swung harder than max baer because Joe Louis fought a max baer who was much softer and wasn't the same after he killed a man in the ring
@@wh1msikal How do you know? Max lived to 99. Didn't seem to bother him any. I mean just assuming stuff like that is ridiculous. How does ANYONE know what was going through his mind? Did he tell you?
@@wh1msikal The guys name was Frank Campbell. It happened in 1930. Campbell was the aggressor in the first round, eluding Baer's right hand and .scoring with his shorter, crisper punches. Near the end of the round, however, Baer dropped him with a looping right to the jaw. Campbell took a count of nine and did not seem seriously hurt. In the second, Campbell stung Baer with a left to the ribs and Max went down. He protested to Referee Toby Irwin that he had merely slipped, and Irwin agreed, motioning him back into action. Campbell, meanwhile, had not retreated to a neutral corner, as he would have been required to do in the event of a knockdown. Instead, he had strolled to the ring ropes and, inexplicably, began staring out at the crowd. As Baer regained his feet, a photographer's flashbulb exploded in his eyes, momentarily blurring his vision. He said later that Campbell appeared to him as only a shadow figure. Campbell was still gazing abstractedly as Baer advanced on him. He turned just as Baer caught him with a right to the side of the head. The blow stunned Campbell, but he held on and survived the round. Between rounds, he was heard to confide to his second. Tom (Greaseball) Maloney, "Something feels like it broke in my head."
But Campbell fought well in the next two rounds, staying even in the third and clearly winning the fourth. He was ahead on some scorecards in the fifth when Baer, the right-handed slugger, surprised him with a whistling left hook to the jaw. Campbell slumped back into the ropes in a neutral corner as Baer, sensing his opportunity but wary of possum-playing, belabored him with a succession of powerful punches to the head. Campbell did not go down. He could not, for the ring ropes were supporting him. With his opponent still on his feet, Baer kept punching. One of the blows caused Campbell's head to smash against the metal turnbuckle that joined the ropes with the ring posts. Still, he did not go down. The furious assault could not have lasted more than a few seconds, but it seemed to ringsiders like minutes before Irwin stepped in and pulled the flailing Baer away. As he did so, Campbell slumped unconscious to the canvas. A count was unnecessary. As flashbulbs popped, Irwin held Baer's hand aloft, while Campbell's seconds worked frantically to revive him. Baer helped them carry him to his stool.
The photograph of Baer that appeared in the morning Chronicle showed him smiling as winners are supposed to, but it was accompanied by a story saying that, as of one o'clock in the morning, Frankie Campbell "lay in St. Joseph's Hospital still insensible." Dr. Frank Sheehy of the hospital staff told reporters the fighter had suffered extensive brain damage and that "the outlook is very dark." Smith's story of the fight portrayed Baer as a vicious fighter. "He [Campbell] was ready to drop, but Baer continued to rain in blows to an unprotected jaw and against a man who was already knocked out...Campbell was dead to the world and stayed in that unconscious condition as Irwin raised Baer's hand and posed for the picture of the winner."
After he had showered, Baer asked Hoffman if he might visit Campbell in his dressing room and wish him well. "Frankie isn't in the room yet," Hoffman told him. "He's still in the ring." In fact, Campbell lay in the ring for a full half hour after the fight while an ambulance from nearby Mission Emergency Hospital threaded through traffic to the ball park. Baer went to the family home in Piedmont secure in the knowledge he had won an important fight, unaware that his opponent lay near death.
Early the next morning Baer received a phone call from the hospital. Campbell was not expected to live, and the police were asking for him. Baer replaced the receiver and turned to his family. "He just stood there, tears as big as golf balls rolling down his cheeks," Augie Baer recalls. "All the heart seemed to go right out of him then." Max had himself driven to the hospital, where he encountered Campbell's wife, who generously absolved him of blame. "It could have been you," she told him. He could barely speak in reply.
The fight officially ended Monday at 10:34 p.m. Frankie Campbell, age 26, died at 11:35 a.m. Tuesday of a double cerebral hemorrhage. Baer surrendered that afternoon to San Francisco Police Captain Fred Lemmon at the Hotel Whitcomb. The bail of $10,000, set by Superior Court Judge George H. Cabaniss, was the highest ever for a charge of manslaughter in San Francisco. Baer spent much of that day in jail before Hoffman arrived with the bail money.
@@wh1msikal Anyhow the story gets interesting. Max almost went to prison for murder. Everyone that saw that fight said it was. It just goes to show how terrible the rules and referees were back then. Old-school was not necessarily tougher, it's just that the beatings lasted longer. The crowd demanded blood and that's what they got. More modern fighters like Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Ali, Vitali, Ibeabuchi, Foreman, etcetera would have destroyed and obliterated all those old-school heavyweight boxers.
@@Boxrec297 all of us know who you are Black David..... keep trying cause ain't nothing working
Whoever is running this channel is a gifted, talented, Legend.
*Little Rocky's division was the smallest Heavyweight division in boxing History. Little Charles only weighed 181 when he won his Super Heavyweight title. Little Rocky only weighed 184. Light heavyweight Jimmy Bivins was only 5' 8". Harry "Kid" Matthews was a career middleweight. Archie Moore was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Eddie Ross and Harry Bilazarian were career middleweights. Harry Haft was a career middleweight and light heavyweight. Ted Lowry and Willis Applegate were career light heavyweights and Bob Jefferson was a career light heavyweight. I'm sorry but I just don't get it? What's the debate about? How to make tiny Rocky and his tiny division Bigger?*
Never seen footage this good of Rocky, his power was just mindblowing!
so was Foreman, even more so!
"What could be better than walking down any street and knowing you are the heavyweight champ of the world." - Rocky Marciano
Rocky ran 20 miles daily for 2555 (7 years) days nonstop. Keep in mind a marathon is 26.2 miles. In addition to his daily 20 mile runs he'd also include sprinting uphill backwards and shadowboxed under water for an additional 2 hours. Rocky was superhuman and will forever be my Hero. Peace to the fallen 😢
Not only did Rocky's big bones give him the ability to carry more weight, it was the main reason for his tremendous power.
ROCKY PROVED THAT HEIGHT, WEIGHT, REACH, EXPERIENCE, DON'T MATTER!
Rocky was the best.
Never seen stamina like Rocky had .. superhuman.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici if Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield or Lennox Lewis fought the same fighters that Marciano fought, they would all be 49-0 as well.
Rocky seemed like good a caring man.That makes his toughness even more admirable.
Didn't he do two years in prison for felony assault and robbery among other stuff
Marciano was so generous toward his opponents after the fact, but you don't see that any more.
Almost all people of those era's were like that. The only person that was a real jerk was Ted Williams. Had a foul mouth and actually was told to leave Sears for using profanity.
Really .;; think rocky Marciano vs sunny liston???
I wouldn’t say you NEVER see that any more. Tyson was a maniac but he was super gracious in victory, even mayweather was/is pretty gracious towards his opponents after he wins, there’s plenty of others too
Watch more MMA.
@@nicktat7460 The same Mayweather that said he is better than Ali. That guys a bum.
I just think about how far we’ve fallen. To see Jersey and Rocky shake hands happily for refight, is the way it ought to be.
Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez sang a Spanish song together before their 4th fight iirc 😂
@@Liam_Barlowe I'm not sure about dirtiest
but there have been a lot of dirty boxers from that era, it's VERY common back then
check out Gene Fullmer's fights. I love the man but Fullmer cheats a lot 😂
🐻Why has Marciano's admission been hidden away for decades? Marciano *"admitted"* he could *"not"* beat prime Louis, Ali, Liston! This information is huge and settles any and all debates as to who could beat who! According to Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength. --by Mike Stanton and Fight City
So it's true, Rocky really wasn't that good and his competition confirmed as much. Who did he fight? Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."*
💙37 year old Joe Louis had already been fighting *"17 years"* with *(68)* fights and *(96)* fights before two million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing Marciano. *Louis' speed and punching power had all but evaporated evidenced by him scoring only 2 KO's in his last 12 fights!* Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, 184 lb Rocky was just entering his prime.
40 year old cruiserweight Walcott had already been fighting *"22 years"* with *(68)* fights before facing tiny cruiser Rocky. Walcott had an abysmal 44% KO's. Walcott being granted (6) title attempts in a (5 ½) year span (1947 to 1953) proves how shallow the division was. *And (5) of his title opportunities came immediately after a loss!* This is important. *Giant Abe Simon put Walcott into retirement for 4 years 4 months (1940 to 1944). Rocky himself said Walcott was only 90% @ 'The Marciano Tapes 3'.*
Walcott's most notable victories include wins
over light heavyweights Charles and Maxim.
Combined Charles and Maxim lost (54) times.
*Walcott lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times.*
Light heavyweight Charles with the lowest ever 42% KO's had already been fighting *"15 years"* with *(95)* fights before facing Marciano in 1954. *Charles was already showing signs of ALS against Walcott in 1951.*
*Charles was 100% factually handicapped when he fought Marciano!*
It's in Ezzard's biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff.*
*Charles lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times.*
42 year old light heavyweight Moore had already been fighting *"20 years"* with *(178)* fights before facing Marciano.
Moore said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was." -@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears*
Wouldn't that put Archie in his mid 40's?
This was Rocky's last fight and he's only 31.
Moore continued to fight till he was 50.
*Who did Rocky fight when he was 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 and 50 years of age?*
How many times would Rocky have lost if he had *(220)* fights like Moore had?
*Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times.*
In summary *Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Marciano never fought an all-time great in his prime and he was only 31 when he had his last fight.*
It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over-accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."*
( @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight )
🌐Zhang - 290
Bakole - 290
Joyce - 280
Fury - 275
Briggs - 265
Ruiz - 265
Grant - 265
Lennox - 250
Parker - 250
Foreman - 250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Anderson - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Wilder - 225
Thomas - 225
Usyk - 222
Lyle - 220
Tyson - 218
Holmes - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
*Marciano - 184 with the shortest ever 67" flyweight reach*
*Charles - 181 with the lowest ever 42% KO's*
*Moore - 175 light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962*
Rocky was never tested against genuine topnotch 200+lbs Heavyweights let alone authentic topnotch 224+lbs Super Heavyweights. But he went 49-0, yes he did, against who? Middleweights and light heavyweights masquerading as Heavyweights. Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. *Rocky never fought an all-time great in his prime.* In my opinion today's light heavy phenom Artur Beterbiev would annihilate Rocky. Rocky was flat-footed, wide open and never used the jab.
Rocky is also remembered and honored for his class as an individual, not only his 49-0. He never boasted or ridiculed his opponents. Regardless what others may think Rocky Marciano was a great champion.
Marciano proved that height, weight, reach, experience mean absolutely nothing
Wherever Marciano went, destruction followed
Rocky is the pinnacle of heart, courage, and determination of his time.
ROCKY MARCIANO......49-0......43 KO'd
tough...powerful...resilient...heart...will...desire...the best
When Muhammad Ali died, I read one obituary that praised him for his skill and his heart, as well as expressing admiration for Ali's willingness to stick to his principles, even when it cost him his title, but which was also critical of him for popularizing the now common habit of trash talking your opponents all the time. Marciano followed the custom that prevailed before Ali came along, and he was always gracious and a good sportsman.
The pride of Italians. Give him his love.
Yes!!!!
He was originally from Egypt
@@mikejuliet2619 no he wasn’t
@@MrCrowley925 WTF is that dude smoking. Rocky Marciano's real name was Rocco Marciano. One of the most Italian names ever!! You can even look at his facial features and could tell he had Italian features!!
@@stephcarlofc right I was like wtf all you have to do is google his name and it tells you smh
I think Rocky's greatest weapon was his endurance. It allowed him to keep a certain punching output going that
his opponents just couldn't match. His output in the latter rounds was the same as the early rounds. No other
heavyweight in history had that kind of gas in the tank.
Smokin Joe's tank (and heart) could rival his.
True. Part of that, especially in the heavyweights, is how much larger and heavier the fighters are today. All that mass and muscle takes a lot of energy to put in motion. On the other side, fighters today defense is much much better. Boxers today couldnt take that many full power direct punches from their opponents. They’re too powerful.
That chin was unreal also
@@keanan5360 no I really don't think so.. it would have been a bloody brutal fight but I see Marciano winning late in the fight by TKO I see smokin' joe gasing 12-15 rounds and Marciano overwhelming him into submission TKO but total 10000%% respect to Smokin' Joe one of the best ever to do it.
Great points
Let’s gooooo please do more old fighters , Joe Louis next please
Jack dempsey or sonny
Jack Dempsey would be a great one
Apollo creed
The Rock crushed Louis
@@jingqi9106 yeah once louis was old
Marciano's monastic monk like year round daily runs and 3 to 5 month preparation per fight was unprecedented. Never seeking refuge in a clinch and couldn't be hurt he broke spirits. Rocky beat them up, rearranged their bone structure and knocked them out.
"A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise..." Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Granite' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
Great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
My grandpa and I used to watch Friday night fights back in the 90’s. He would always tell me how great Rocky was and that no boxer “pound for pound” was better or ever would be better. To this day I still have to agree with him. Great video, Joe.
That right hand that put Walcott down was simply magnificent. Just a picture of timing, power and ferocity, delivered when it most mattered.
This documentary gives me chills at the end .... I never knew the whole story till now... Great legends at all means ... RIP Rocky Marciano
exactaly he aint deserve to go uot like that RIP rocky
When they talked about Joe Lewis kissing his coffin I almost lost it lol 😂
Charles Lost *(25)* times and was KOd *(7)* times
Moore Lost *(23)* times and was KO'd *(7)* times
Walcott Lost *(20)* times and was KOd *(6)* times
Savold Lost *(43)* times and was KO'd *(12)* times
Lowry Lost *(68)* times and was KO'd *(3)* times
Cockell Lost *(14)* times and was KO'd *(9)* times
LaStarza Lost *(9)* times and was KO'd *(2)* times
Louis Bravely fought *(69)* times.............little Rocky Quit at *49*
Walcott Bravely fought *(70)* times.........little Rocky Quit at *49*
Charles Bravely fought *(121)* times.......little Rocky Quit at *49*
Moore Bravely fought *(220)* times.........little Rocky Quit at *49*
Savold Bravely fought *(142)* times.........little Rocky Quit at *49*
Matthews Bravely fought *(103)* times.. .little Rocky Quit at *49*
LaStarza Bravely fought *(66)* times.......little Rocky Quit at *49*
Cockell Bravely fought *(81)* times..........little Rocky Quit at *49*
Lowry Bravely fought *(150)* times..........little Rocky Quit at *49*
Louis Bravely fought *(17)* years...........little Rocky Only *7* years
Walcott Bravely fought *(23)* years.......little Rocky Only *7* years
Charles Bravely fought *(20)* years.......little Rocky Only *7* years
Moore Bravely fought *(27)* years.........little Rocky Only *7* years
Savold Bravely fought *(19)* years........little Rocky Only *7* years
Matthews Bravely fought *(19)* years...little Rocky Only *7* years
LaStarza Bravely fought *(14)* years.....little Rocky Only *7* years
Cockell Bravely fought *(10)* years.......little Rocky Only *7* years
Lowry Bravely fought *(16)* years.........little Rocky Only *7* years
*Shocking isn't it?? We never se these stats bcz they're always Suppressed.* Imagine if today's Heavyweights Fury & Usyk had losing records lik that?? *Heck,, they'd be thrown under the bus immediately if they only had "'ONE"' loss,, let alone 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 or even 68!!!*
*((* If a fighter *today* had *((20))* losses and was KO'd *((6))* times he'd be considered an undercard *F-LEVEL* Journeyman!!! Correct?? OH,, but, but, but it's okay for Jersey Joe Walcott bcz two-faced Marciano fans say it is *))*
*HOW MANY LOSSES DID THE "'BEST"' HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF ALL TIME HAVE:*
Lewis --------- *2*
Holmes ------ *6*
Ali -------------- *5*
Vitali ----------- *2*
Foreman ---- *5*
Tyson -------- *6*
Wladimir ---- *5*
Bowe --------- *1*
Liston -------- *4*
Louis --------- *3*
Holyfield -- *10*
Frazier ------- *4*
Norton ------- *7*
Tunney ------ *1*
Dempsey --- *6*
Johnson --- *11*
*"SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES"* -- *Lennox Lewis*
The overwhelming majority of little 184-lb cruiserweight Rocky's *F-LEVEL* opposition:
Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs *F-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably. --The Ring
Marciano had been married to the same woman, the former Barbara Cousins, the daughter of a Brockton cop, since Dec. 31, 1950, but the union unraveled long before the decade was done *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* Rocky's tastes ran more to svelte, statuesque blondes, that single glass of wine and smokeless rooms. "He couldn't stand his married life" says Saccone "There was nothing compatible between them." So the mesh included people, such as the late Lindy Ciardelli on the West Coast and Paterniti on the East Coast, whose job was to help feed Marciano's prodigious sexual appetite. "Rock liked girls, know what I mean?" Paterniti says. "Nobody wants me to tell you about it, but Rock was insane about girls; that's all he wanted to do, all the time. He constantly had or-geees night and day. A friend of mine in New York got me and Rocky thousands of girls. Honestly, literally a thousand girls. We had girls every single day and night. I carried a suitcase full of electric massagers and emotion lotion and all kinds of creams and oils." "That a woman be waiting for Rocky was as requisite for his appearance as the folded $100 bills." "If he ever went to some place and there was not a girl waiting for him, he'd never come back," says Santarelli, his underworld pal.
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan
"One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston
"Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis
"The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali
"My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson
The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield
"Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier
"Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles
"Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott
"Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore
"Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer
"Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali
"Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza
"One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman
If that is not respect, I don't know what is
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan
"One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston
"Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis
"The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali
"My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson
The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield
"Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier
"Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles
"Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott
"Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore
"Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer
"Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali
"Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza
"One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman
If that is not respect, I don't know what is
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
I grew up in Brockton and went to school with a handful of Rocky's grandchildren. Very nice family! Such a tragedy that Rocky was taken from us at such a young age.
How did He die?
@@EverybodyUnite watch the end of the video.
Grauie fratello americano😘
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Rock' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
“He doesn’t fight by the book, but I got hit by a library" This from a man that fought so many other men. And knew what a hard hit felt like.
Rocky Marciano's legacy is not that he was just undefeated, but how he was undefeated. He overcame cuts, knockdowns, trailing late in fights, and more. His will is unquestioned. When you look at the greatest Heavyweights to ever reign over the most prestigious title in all of sports, the greats are near-mythical figures that would give everything to win, men that had an indomitable spirit to go along with skill. When you think of guys like that, you think of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Holyfield and yes, Rocky Marciano, who undoubtedly etched his name among them. So let the revisionist run their mouths about how he was too short, how he was just a brawler, how his competition was weak etc. In the end, no other Heavyweight champion has ever retired undefeated and I doubt anyone else ever will. The one-man that did it is always standing and his name is Rocky Marciano!
Undefeated. Unbeatable. The greatest, ever. That was Rocky Marciano (1923-1969), the only Heavyweight in boxing history who ended his career with no defeats: 49 fights won, including 43 by knockout. Rocky bludgeoned every top Heavyweight of his era before leaving professional boxing in 1956.
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Granite' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
A great fighter, Champ, and inspiration.
The perfect world champion. A beautiful human being and a true warrior. It's an irresistible combination. RIP Rocky.
Overrated.
*C-LEVEL Journeyman Walcott lost to Middleweights Mays ,, Palmer ,, Ketchell ,, and to Light heavyweights Charles x2 ,, Fox x2 ,, Maxim ,, Brothers ,, Taylor.. In summary Walcott consistently lost to Middleweights and Light heavyweights!!! Overall he lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times!!!*
Paying for Vingos medical expenses says everything about him. And every interview I seen with him he was very well spoken and gratuitous. Legend.🙏🏴
Beating up homosexuals and robbing them in England during WWII, and going to prison says it all; bet your kool Aid eating butt didn't know that.
"Consider that in Dec. 1962 Ring magazine poll of 40 boxing experts it was Jack Dempsey that was rated the # 1 Heavyweight of all time with Joe Louis 2nd, Jack Johnson 3rd and Marciano finishing a distant 7th, way behind Dempsey. If he was considered 7th in 1962 how does he propel to the top 5, when since then we have had Muhammad Ali who faced much tougher competition, the big power hitting George Foreman, Larry Holmes who made 20 title defenses, the bigger, faster and more powerful Mike Tyson, and the giant Lennox Lewis who at 6’5” 245 pounds would enjoy a 60 pound weight advantage over Marciano? This is a key point. Boxing historians Herb Goldman and Charley Rose rated Marciano at # 8, "Mr. Boxing, himself," Nat Fleischer rated him at # 10 and John McCallum's Survey of Old Timers (survey of a group of historians and writers) had him at # 9. No major historian who saw Marciano in their lifetime thought he was a top 7 all time Heavyweight and 68 years have passed since Rocky retired." -- by Monte D. Cox, (IBRO) International Boxing Research Organization, 2004.
So what happened??? How did little 184-lb cruiserweight Rocky with the shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach go from 7th ranked greatest heavyweight of all-time throughout the 60s and 70s all the way up to 3rd or 4th greatest Super Heavyweight in 2023???
He only fought 7 years and only defended his cruiser title 6 times while everyone else fought 15 to 20 years and defended their title/titles 10, 15, 20, 25 times.
And the funniest thing is, he only defended his title against one cruiserweight and the rest were light heavyweights moonlighting as heavyweights bcz no top-notch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweights existed!!!
@@Bronco_Billy_Jack_Hills I only said he was well spoken and a good fighter ,,and paying for Vingos expenses is a class act.🙏
@@MrG77 My apologies. I didn't read what you wrote. Good day.
I wonder what an interview where he had to talk about his conviction and Bad Conduct Discharge for the Military, for beating up and robbing Homosexuals in England during WWII, would have been like?
I wish professional boxers today displayed the class and sportsmanship as they did back then
@@ZOMBIELANDakaUSA You're falling as well by that logic.
Benavidas has class
I think a lot still do, like Canelo if i'm not wrong. But because they're this way, they don't get a lot of attention.
@@ahnaf9433 you can thank mayweather for that
Tyson Fury does
A really genuine guy and a hero to many, Rocky is a beloved icon and champion who deserves respect. RIP Rocky you are still loved and remembered.
MARCIANO IS THE SINGLE MOST DESTRUCTIVE FORCE EVER SET LOOSE IN THE RING!
"Rocky would often take a nap in the dressing room before a big fight. The kid had ice water in his veins." -- Rocky's manager Charlie Goldman
ROCKY BEST😃🇮🇹
The Best Ever Left This World.Sad Day In Boxing History.😢
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
*“Cassius Clay is the best Heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”*
Jersey Joe Walcott made these observations in an exclusive interview with Ring magazine. Walcott has been around boxing a long time and should know what he is talking about. Here is what he has to say about Clay’s fighting quality.
*“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen."*
Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated:
*“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and hard and moves too quickly for all of us old timers.”*
Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure-shot winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said:
*“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations."*
*“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned."*
*“All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance."*
*“He could do the same thing to Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and me. He might not knock us out but he would beat all of us."*
*“When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch."*
*"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange."*
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Great comment.
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I'm a fan but the headline says the hardest hitter in boxing history. Lets get real .
178lb light heavy to 184lb tiny cruiser Rocky's conditioning is another manufactured fallacy and 236lb Ibeabuchi vs. 226lb Tua proved it when they threw a record breaking 1,730 haymakers in only 12 rds. *When "The President" Nigerian Ike Ibeabuchi met "The Tuamanator" Samoan David Tua the Nigerian got out to an insanely fast start, throwing 91 punches in round one according to CompuBox, 91 again in round two, and 95 in round three, obscene numbers for a Heavyweight. By the final bell, Ibeabuchi and Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the Heavyweight record set by Ali vs. Frazier III, when they combined for 1,591 punches - in 14 rounds, two rounds more than Ibeabuchi and Tua had to work with. Ike threw 975 punches, the most ever by a single Heavyweight. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of this epic "tribal" battle and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226lb Tua's record stood at 27-0-0 23KO's while 236lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0-0 12KO's.*
This fight is the stuff that dreams were made of. Two Super Heavyweight warriors stood toe to toe exhibiting exceptional heart and endurance. Both boxers threw bombs and neither took a backward step.
After the fight Ibeabuchi complained of a headache and was taken to a hospital. He underwent several tests including an MRI scan but nothing abnormal was found and was immediately released. A week after the fight Tua had surgery to remove bone chips from his left elbow.
And Ike's in🎃sanity had nothing to do with anything he injested lik-roids, he was too paranoid of medications to take anything illegal. Ike was an anomaly, one in a million.
No heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, and he believed that he was the King, that nobody could beat him. He’d walk into the ring and you would almost have this vision of a bull coming at a matador with the steam coming out of the nostrils. Unfortunately, here was a very scary man both in and out of the ring. And it’s unfortunate that we’ll never know what could have been.
Bob Arum: "I don’t know, but it was the Heavyweight division and people love a puncher, and while he probably couldn’t have made what Mike Tyson made, but he would have been damn close. You know, hundreds of millions of dollars, sure. But again, again, that’s life, that’s life. You have to be a person, you have to be sane, you have to comport yourself with some kind of dignity and some kind of grace in order to realize that type of reward, and he couldn’t do it."
21 months later, 245lb Ibeabuchi confirmed that he was indeed the best up-and-coming heavyweight on the planet by knocking out undefeated 26-0 quick and slick southpaw Chris Byrd. Ibeabuchi was 20-0 with 15 knockouts, only 26 years old .. and he never fought again.
Byrd: "I got a little arrogant, thinking I’m unhittable. Cause I just thought, Oh man, he can’t hit me! I’m gonna slip everything. And, boom, just got caught. When I got knocked down the first time, I got, literally, the canvas woke me up. I was asleep before I hit the ground, and when I hit the canvas it woke me up. I asked the referee why he stopped the fight? What are you doing? "The bell rung!" But my bell was still ringing, that’s what was ringing, was my bell."
245lb Ike Ibeabuchi would have been the heir to Lennox Lewis throne. The Klitschko's would have been gate keepers if he was around. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches and had a ridiculous work-rate with KO written all over his punches.
*Little 5' 9" 184lb Rocky with tiny 67" flyweight reach gets flattened by the 245lb prodigy Ibeabuchi 10 out of 10 times and that's not debatable!*
The way Rocky fans go on and on about how he's the best conditioned fighter that ever lived is laughable. So Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Marvin Hagler, Manny Pacquiao, David Tua and Ike Ibeabuchi never trained? What a Joke.
*Let's put Layne and LaStarza under the MICROSCOPE, shall we?*
In 1952, Rex Layne LOST to no-name Willie James. Then Layne fought a 500 journeyman Bill Peterson TWO TIMES and won both. Then Layne LOST AGAIN to Harry Matthews, a light heavyweight contender.
Name ANY TOP 10 RING HEAVYWEIGHT CONTENDER today who would still be rated in the top 10 if he lost to an unrated 12-2 opponent (James) and a light heavyweight contender?
Layne would've been gone from the top 10. LONG GONE.
Meanwhile, also in 1952, Roland LaStarza wins a decision over Dan Bucceroni (after LOSING to him FIVE months earlier) and Roland follows that up with a LOSS to the 14-9-2 Rocky Jones.
Then Roland wins a decision over Rocky Jones.
Neither of these guys, Rex and Roland, at this point, should've been rated in the top 10 AT ALL. They wouldn't be today, that's for damn sure.
Both Layne and Roland ... LONG GONE.
Then out of nowhere Rex Layne wins a 10 round decision in Utah against Ezzard Charles, in Ezzard's first fight after losing his fourth fight with Walcott. Ezzard stopped Layne in their previous fight. In their third encounter a couple months later, Ezzard would drop him three or four times and beat Layne again.
BUT, on this night, the fight goes the distance. And the LONE official and "celebrity referee" Jack Dempsey scored it two rounds Rex, one Round Ezzard ... SEVEN ROUNDS EVEN for the local boy Rex. And the fans cheered. And the two Utah papers had Charles winning, by the way.
Today, that would be SCANDALOUS. Layne clearly wasn't better than Ezzard.
But based on that (2 rounds to 1, with seven even) scorecard ... REX LAYNE - who today wouldn't be rated going into that fight at all - gets rated #1 by Ring.
And, in his next fight, before getting dropped and battered all over the ring by an angry Ezzard Charles, Rex takes on ROLAND ... coming off his rematch with the no-name Rocky Jones ... and Rex LOSES to Roland ... on what was considered a controversial decision, too.
And Roland gets ranked #1. (Rating Rex #1 was bad enough. Passing the #1 rating along to Roland is probably worse.)
Then Marciano signs to fight Roland ... because ROLAND IS THE #1 CONTENDER.
And everyone goes "Well, Roland must've deserved it. He beat the #1 contender!"
It's laughable.
You want to talk about a dreadful series of ratings and situations culminating in Roland getting rated #1.
That is brutal.
Today, Marciano, Roland, Layne, celebrity referee Dempsey, and the entire Ring Ratings board, the National Boxing Assocation ... would be thrown under the bus.
Back then, people were like, "Okay"
Scandalous scoring. Ineptitude by the ratings body. Take your pick.
LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf, and this is the best Rocky's era had to offer. These guys aren't topnotch professionals, more like decent Golden Glove boxers. Watch their fight. It's there. Don't just automatically assume they must have been good. Analyse the fight yourself. Witness the fight to understand how dreadful that division actually was. And to think low-power C-LEVEL Journeyman LaStarza was one of Marciano's top-tier opponents smh.
Best Marciano's documentary ever, kuddos to you, Joseph
This channel is literally the definition of “Quality over Quantity”
"I have always adhered to two principles. The first one is to train hard and get in the best possible physical condition. The second is to forget all about the other fellow until you face him in the ring and the bell sounds for the fight." -- Rocky Marciano
ROCKY PROVED THAT HEIGHT, WEIGHT, REACH, EXPERIENCE, DON'T MATTER!
Rocky pounded you relentlessly.....endless cardio, endless fury, all champion.
MARCIANO IS THE SINGLE MOST DESTRUCTIVE FORCE EVER SET LOOSE IN THE RING!
"Rocky would often take a nap in the dressing room before a big fight. The kid had ice water in his veins." -- Rocky's manager Charlie Goldman
The GOAT..no question about it. He actually did rearrange people's faces. What a shame he died so young.
Not quite the GOAT. Resumes matter more than records. Name every significant heavyweight he fought.
@@eddicarlo5362 He was the undefeated champion until his retirement, beating all the competition put against him, he had nothing else to prove. Try again.
@@fuckzogtube name every significant name on his resume. Go ahead.
@@eddicarlo5362ol. He beat ali. Plus he's 49-0. Undefeated heavyweight champion. He would have won more but died. You know nothing. He's the real goat. Everyone says ali is the goat. He beat ali. Which shows he is the best. Lol. Plus being undefeated made him the greatest ever
@@timnik2902 Ali and Marciano never fought you dummy 🤣 that was a scripted fight with the result generated by a computer. Learn some boxing casual 🤣
The only heavyweight boxing champion to retire undefeated. This was in 1955, and to this day, hasn't been repeated. A rare accomplishment.
Tyson Fury is unbeaten and now retired or so he says unless he has the desire to fight the winner of the Usyk/Joshua rematch. Personally I think he lost to John McDermott.
The only HW champion to fight a half dozen of his second cousins under assumed names and the boxing commission was going to strip Rocky of his title so he conveniently retired.
@@rickyd4073 ain't nobody waiting two years to see these slow, lumbering mummified fighters slog all around the ring once every two years they might have a title fight.
Hum...Marciano...Not so Great? Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 18L 40-Year Old Club Fighter!...Joe Lewis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Christopher...Lee...AKA...Count Dracula!...Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley Howard of The Three Stooges! Pick A Decade...60s...70s...80s...90s..2000s...He would have been destroyed by the likes of Liston...Frazer...Norton...Forman...Holmes...HolyField...Tyson...Lewis...Klitschko...Ali...and Tommy Morrison...to name A Few! He was too small and steered to a list of washed up mediocre or zombie opponents! His Record ...Fight No One and Quit While You're Ahead! AKA Mediocre at Best! P.S. I Think Even The Count Would Have Beat Him!
Same shit all those he knocked out said prior to the fights.......
Rest in peace Rocky Marciano.😊
Afro-Italians total population 1,096,089. Regions with significant populations Rome, Milan, Turin, Palermo, Bologna, Brescia, Bergamo and Florence. In 2014 alone over 170,000 migrants arrived which represented the biggest influx of people into one country in European Union history. 91 percent arrive via Africa. Although departing from Libya, most are from Ghana and Nigeria. Long long ago African Moors ruled over Italians. I can attest to this from my own DNA. My mother did one of those ancestry DNA tests, and her family is entirely from Sicily. So I, as a descendent of that same Sicilian DNA strand, have a bit of Rocky's bloodline in me as well. He's my second cousin. I am Sicilian Blackamoor Afroitaliani, born and raised in Italy, citizen of African descent. It's been proven time and time again that Rocco Francis Marchegiano aka Rocky Marciano is African Italian.
The Mob, Sleeping with Thousands of different People, Psychosis and other symptoms Marciano suffered. - *@ THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Aug 23, 1993*
Quotes from Jersey Joe Walcott about Cassius Clay:
*“Cassius Clay is the best heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”*
Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated:
*“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and moves too quickly for all of us old timers. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight.”*
Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said:
*“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance.”*
*“I fought Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch.”*
*RING, SEPT. 1965 WALCOTT INSIST ALI WOULD BEAT DEMPSEY, LOUIS, ROCKY, ETC. BY ED BRENNAN*
In summary Jersey Joe has been around boxing for a long time and should know what he is talking about...should i believe you, a biased casual, or Jersey Joe ?
Marciano is the definition of a true brawler. The second he tastes his own blood, he smiles, enjoys it, and makes you taste yours
Just like Frazier. A clash between these two would be legendary
37 year old Joe Louis had already been fighting *"17 years"* with *(68)* fights and *(96)* fights before two million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing Marciano. *Louis' speed and punching power had all but evaporated evidenced by him scoring only 2 KO's in his last 12 fights!* Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, 184 lb Rocky was just entering his prime.
40 year old cruiserweight Walcott had already been fighting *"22 years"* with *(68)* fights before facing tiny cruiser Rocky. Walcott had an abysmal 44% KO's. Walcott being granted (6) title attempts in a (5 ½) year span (1947 to 1953) proves how shallow the division was. *And (5) of his title opportunities came immediately after a loss!* This is important. *Giant Abe Simon put Walcott into retirement for 4 years 4 months (1940 to 1944). Rocky himself said Walcott was only 90% @ 'The Marciano Tapes 3'.*
Walcott's most notable victories include wins
over light heavyweights Charles and Maxim.
Combined Charles and Maxim lost (54) times.
*Walcott lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times.*
Light heavyweight Charles with the lowest ever 42% KO's had already been fighting *"15 years"* with *(95)* fights before facing Marciano in 1954. *Charles was already showing signs of ALS against Walcott in 1951.*
*Charles was 100% factually handicapped when he fought Marciano!*
It's in Ezzard's biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff.*
*Charles lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times.*
42 year old light heavyweight Moore had already been fighting *"20 years"* with *(178)* fights before facing Marciano.
Moore said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was." -@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears*
Wouldn't that put Archie in his mid 40's?
This was Rocky's last fight and he's only 31.
Moore continued to fight till he was 50.
*Who did Rocky fight when he was 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 and 50 years of age?*
How many times would Rocky have lost if he had *(220)* fights like Moore had?
*Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times.*
In summary *Walcott was 40, Moore 42, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Marciano never fought an all-time great in his prime and he was only 31 when he had his last fight.*
It's no wonder Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward said, *"Marciano was over-accomplished* (overrated). *He was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10" exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. The biggest overachiever in the Heavyweight division. 188 lbs was just too small."*
( @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight )
LYING AS TROLL! ROCKY MARCIANO NEVER FOUGHT A MAN ABOVE 38 ANS ALL OF THEM BESIDES JOE LOUIS WERE IN THEIR PRIMES!! THEY SAID SO!!!@@TheOriginalBobbyd
As a kid, I was enthralled with Rocky. I was always glued to the radio during his fights.
I guess most people didn't have TVs back then?
@@fightfannerd2078 Not every family had tv's no. Radio was still big. That changed in the 60's.
Who else likes these before they even watch the whole thing.
Joe Vincent, you have made my day man greatest fighter ever!!!!!
That look on Moores face after he knocked Rocky down, and he came back and clobbered him. You can literally see him thiink, "What the fuck, where the hell did this come from!"
rocky fought some great fighters as well, he was not a can crusher, which is amazing how he went and a humble well respected guy.
@@MusMasi The guy was like an ancient mythical warrior.... Just unbelievably brutal and relentless....
I've got him as the GOAT. But I could be wrong
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@@jeremysears4263 Thank you for a more reasonable opinion, and without the "in-thing," teenage gutter talk that so many "men" love to use to make themselves feel tougher, and make their point seem, more dramatic. Lol
And I do not want my kids or grandkids believing, this talk is classy. :(
Yes, in the era, say 20 years from when Rocky first started, he was the greatest by a long-shot.
Meeting Ali, both in their prime--do not forget, in any sports' field, evolution, definitely, plays a massive part of the equation.
Ali was a modern artist and Rocky was mud-figher.
I, assume, Ali, cuts Rocky up so bad, and with that confounding, evolutionary dancing, the ref would have to stop the fight?
But Rocky would evade a knockout from this modern day, chosen, GOAT,
Rocky Marciano was different. He didn't toot his own horn like a lot of boxers with big egos. He trained like he wasn't a champion. Why a lot of boxers thought he was a big hype job. Only until they got hit, they gave him his due respect.
49-0 without running and dramas. now thats an amazing undefeated pound for pound true champ.
I've watched many other films on Rocky M. and none of them are anywhere near as good as this. Great tribute to the Legend.
A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise... Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
Rocky ran 20 miles daily for 2555 (7 years) days nonstop. Keep in mind a marathon is 26.2 miles. In addition to his daily 20 mile runs he'd also include sprinting uphill backwards and shadowboxed under water for an additional 2 hours. Rocky was superhuman and will forever be my Hero. Peace to the fallen 😢
Marciano carved a swath through the heavyweight division not seen before or since!
Rocky Marciano 🎵 simply the best , better than the rest 🎵
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici sorry, that was Ali!
The amount of work that goes into these videos to produce them at this quality and keep them coming this regularly.
This channel is fucking amazing
Boxing back then was literally life and death. Rocky was a working class hero. I’m privileged to know his family❤️
The real rocky!
The real rocky is Balboa...
You're So Cool Gohan, I Been Watching You On TV Years Ago
Chuck Wepner is
@@mikeoxhard_695 exactly ! The fight were Sly adapted Chepner’s blocking technique using his head was Muhammad Ali vs Chuck Wepner
Best conditioned fighter who ever lived...great heart...power...stamina...chin of iron...ridiculous work rate...hurt you no matter where he hit you...never took a backward step...threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them...broke bone and blood vessels...pain meant nothing...he feared no man...champ from 52 to 56...49-0...43 KO's...a beast in the ring...and class outside of it...put The Rock in with anyone!
Rocky's huge titanium fists were no different than two 18-wheeler Mack trucks. He wasn't called Rocky Mack for nothing. He was special. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about him. My god he was special.
ROCKY BEST😃🇮🇹
The Best Ever Left This World.Sad Day In Boxing History.😢
ROCKY BEST😃🇮🇹
The Best Ever Left This World.Sad Day In Boxing History.😢
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan
"One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston
"Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis
"The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali
"My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson
The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield
"Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier
"Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles
"Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott
"Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore
"Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer
"Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali
"Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza
"One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman
If that is not respect, I don't know what is
Marciano was named the 4th greatest Heavyweight of all-time by The Ring in 1994.
Marciano was named the 7th greatest puncher of all-time by The Ring in 1997.
Marciano was named the 9th greatest fighter of the 20th century by The Ring in 1999.
Marciano was a very tough little ginny wop but he wouldn't have faired well against the big heavys
I went to school with his nephews in Brockton. they were down to earth with no egos at all and treated everyone with respect. That’s impressive seeing they were basically royalty and most kids that age would’ve been insufferable. Rocky’s legacy lives on. RIP Rock!!!
"Consider that in Dec. 1962 Ring magazine poll of 40 boxing experts it was Jack Dempsey that was rated the # 1 Heavyweight of all time with Joe Louis 2nd, Jack Johnson 3rd and Marciano finishing a distant 7th, way behind Dempsey. If he was considered 7th in 1962 how does he propel to the top 5, when since then we have had Muhammad Ali who faced much tougher competition, the big power hitting George Foreman, Larry Holmes who made 20 title defenses, the bigger, faster and more powerful Mike Tyson, and the giant Lennox Lewis who at 6’5” 245 pounds would enjoy a 60 pound weight advantage over Marciano? This is a key point. Boxing historians Herb Goldman and Charley Rose rated Marciano at # 8, "Mr. Boxing, himself," Nat Fleischer rated him at # 10 and John McCallum's Survey of Old Timers (survey of a group of historians and writers) had him at # 9. No major historian who saw Marciano in their lifetime thought he was a top 7 all time Heavyweight and 68 years have passed since Rocky retired." -- by Monte D. Cox, (IBRO) International Boxing Research Organization, 2004.
So what happened??? How did little 184-lb cruiserweight Rocky with the shortest-ever 67" flyweight reach go from 7th ranked greatest heavyweight of all-time throughout the 60s and 70s all the way up to 3rd or 4th greatest Super Heavyweight in 2023???
He only fought 7 years and only defended his cruiser title 6 times while everyone else fought 15 to 20 years and defended their title/titles 10, 15, 20, 25 times.
And the funniest thing is, he only defended his title against one cruiserweight and the rest were light heavyweights moonlighting as heavyweights bcz no top-notch genuine 200+lbs Heavyweights existed!!!
Had little 184lb-cruiser Rocky had a normal duration boxing career like EVERYONE else did he would have had to face the likes of Patterson, Machen, Johansson, Liston, Cleveland, Folley, Valdez, Johansson, Cooper, Miteff, London, Mildenberger, Jones, Clay, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Quarry, Martin and Ellis just to name a few. Instead he only dealt with light heavyweights similar to Matthews, Lowry, Charles, Moore. Little Rocky is damned lucky he QUIT when he did!
@@Studentofsweetscience The thing is, we will never know and all your conjecture makes no difference. See how that works? By the way, you listed Johansson twice. Does that mean you think there would have been a rematch? LOL
I wish there was a way to articulate what your talent means to my life. Your content sincerely brightens my mood. Thanks once again for sharing your gift with all of us, Joe Vincent.
I really miss these types of fights and that level of respectful sportsmanship in the ring.
Rocky was only 185 lbs but 180 of that was pure heart, I'm sorry I missed him in his prime but my dad was about Rocky's age, seen all his fights.
Attribution note: quotes and facts about Ezzard Charles and his life are taken and attributed to William Dettloff’s book on Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life
Ezzard Charles, who, from 1951 on, was suffering from the symptoms of ALS, (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as “Lou Gehrig’s disease.”
Why did Charles keep fighting once he clearly had ALS?
Charles was trying to earn a living for his family, and earn enough that they would be taken care of once he was gone. Charles kept fighting while he could not hold a fork, or button his shirt.
In 1937, at 16, Charles began boxing as an amateur. He soon won the 1937 Ohio AAU Welterweight championship, in 1938, he again won the state AAU amateur title as a Welterweight, and in 1939 he won the Ohio state Middleweight championship, and then the National Amateur Middleweight crown.
In 1940 he turned pro as a Middleweight, and by 1941 Charles had risen, by age 19, to be the number two contender for the world Middleweight title. But Dettloff documents how Charles was told bluntly that Zale would never give him a title shot, and the boxing establishment would back up his choosing to defend it against Billy Conn instead of Charles in his last title defense before the war. When he returned from the war, Charles was still shut out of a title shot at Middleweight, so he moved up to Light heavyweight.
As a Light heavyweight, he defeated Archie Moore not once, not twice, but three times - and Gus Lesnevich, the Light Heavyweight champion refused to give him a title shot. So Charles, a natural Middleweight, went off to Heavyweight.
Charles moved to Heavyweight in late 1947, and by 1948 was the #2 contender behind Journeyman Joe Walcott. According to Dettloff, titles were money, and the Heavyweight title was the richest of them all.’
Charles beat Journeyman Joe by a fifteen-round unanimous decision in 1949, to win the Vacant World Heavyweight Championship. *Charles is the only natural Middleweight in the modern age to win the Heavyweight title. Patterson never had a single fight at Middleweight.*
Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe by a seventh-round knockout in 1951. Ailing and washed Ezzard tried to regain the Heavyweight Championship three times, losing once to Walcott in 52 and twice to Marciano in 54.
Before Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe he was 73-5-1 in three of the original 8 weight classes. The last eight years of his career, when he was unquestionably suffering from ALS, really distorted his record.
*“The heavyweight version of Charles,”* Dettloff sums up, *“would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at Light heavy and below.”*
Quotes and facts about Ezzard Charles and his life are taken and attributed to William Dettloff’s book on Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life
Ezzard Charles, who, from 1951 on, was suffering from the symptoms of ALS, (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as “Lou Gehrig’s disease.”
Why did Charles keep fighting once he clearly had ALS?
Charles was trying to earn a living for his family, and earn enough that they would be taken care of once he was gone. Charles kept fighting while he could not hold a fork, or button his shirt.
In 1937, at 16, Charles began boxing as an amateur. He soon won the 1937 Ohio AAU Welterweight championship, in 1938, he again won the state AAU amateur title as a Welterweight, and in 1939 he won the Ohio state Middleweight championship, and then the National Amateur Middleweight crown.
In 1940 he turned pro as a Middleweight, and by 1941 Charles had risen, by age 19, to be the number two contender for the world Middleweight title. But Dettloff documents how Charles was told bluntly that Zale would never give him a title shot, and the boxing establishment would back up his choosing to defend it against Billy Conn instead of Charles in his last title defense before the war. When he returned from the war, Charles was still shut out of a title shot at Middleweight, so he moved up to Light heavyweight.
As a Light heavyweight, he defeated Archie Moore not once, not twice, but three times - and Gus Lesnevich, the Light Heavyweight champion refused to give him a title shot. So Charles, a natural Middleweight, went off to Heavyweight.
Charles moved to Heavyweight in late 1947, and by 1948 was the #2 contender behind Journeyman Joe Walcott. According to Dettloff, titles were money, and the Heavyweight title was the richest of them all.’
Charles beat Journeyman Joe by a fifteen-round unanimous decision in 1949, to win the Vacant World Heavyweight Championship. *Charles is the only natural Middleweight in the modern age to win the Heavyweight title. Patterson never had a single fight at Middleweight.*
Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe by a seventh-round knockout in 1951. Ailing and washed Ezzard tried to regain the Heavyweight Championship three times, losing once to Walcott in 52 and twice to Marciano in 54.
Before Charles lost the title to Journeyman Joe he was 73-5-1 in three of the original 8 weight classes. The last eight years of his career, when he was unquestionably suffering from ALS, really distorted his record.
*“The heavyweight version of Charles,”* Dettloff sums up, *“would get a lot of good work done. But on the best day of his life, he was no more a Heavyweight than Ray Robinson. He never would be as good there as he was at Light heavy and below.”*
William Dettloff's biography of Ezzard Charles explains how Ezzard was ducked by champions in both the Middleweight and Light heavyweight divisions. As a result, he fought in the Heavyweight division despite never being a true Heavyweight.
Post World War II for the next 15 years or so boxing was controlled by the International Boxing Club whose front man was sportsman James D. Norris. The guys really behind it were made Mafia guys Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo. Both Walcott and Charles had mobbed managers, Walcott one Nick Bocchicchio and Charles a pair named Tom Tennas and Jacob Mintz. You did as they told you and you got the matches that you needed to advance into contender ranks.
After a reign of 11 years Joe Louis would retire. The IBC did an elimination tournament and Journeyman Cruiser Joe Walcott and natural Middleweight Charles were named the top two contenders and fought in 1949 and Charles won.
Journeyman Joe eventually knocked Charles out in their 3rd fight. He gave Charles a rematch and retained the title in their 4th fight. And then along comes Marciano, behind on points, knocks Journeyman Joe out in the 13th round and becomes champion. Rocky had also knocked out an aging Joe Louis in 1951 before his championship bout.
*Two of Marciano's title defenses were against Charles, winning a decision the first time and knocking him out the second. Charles was a spent force by that time. In 1965 Charles who could no longer walk or feed himself had a neurology consult and it was determined he had Lou Gehrig's disease. The illness wasn't officially reported to the public until 1968 but Ezzard and his family already knew something was wrong as early as 1951. Dettloff's biography is real and here to stay like it or not.*
Rocky Marciano had heart ( true courage)...the courage of a lion....he never showboated. He was a humble fighter.
Such a humble guy and just gives you a really good feeling watching him
Running 15 miles daily (in combat boots) he must have been incredibly conditioned not to mention having an iron jaw and meat hooks for arms. It said lots about his character the way he went right to Moore after winning to see if he was alright-and he even paid the medical bills for another victim he almost killed in the ring.
He would run 5-6 miles daily bro…he would ramp it up to 13-15 miles 2 weeks before his fight but in his day to day life he did 5-6
@@artLopez24 then he would walk 12 miles
@Ezzard Charles who was the author cause I couldn't find that book anywhere
@Ezzard Charles you are putting this message out everywhere and nobody can find it
He was the best conditioned heavyweight of all time, people often mention his weight but when you remember he was running over half a marathon a day it's baffling he weighed as much as he did.
He was a high-school dropout who worked a series of dead-end jobs - delivering coal, laboring in factories making candy, beverages, and shoes, slinging hash in a diner, digging ditches, clearing land, and fixing sidewalks. But Marciano had two world-class skills. He could absorb a frightful beating, and he could knock men out cold. “I was a nobody,” he was fond of saying. “In the ring, I became a somebody."
Kind, respectful, gentleman, outside the ring. Savage, unstoppable beast, inside it.
Rocky pounded you relentlessly.....endless cardio, endless fury, all champion.
Resilient, relentless, swarming, durable, belief, tough, powerful,.....Unbeaten.....Rocky Marciano
ROCKY MARCIANO: THE EPITOME OF PERFECTION!
"How come every time we talk about boxing, he gotta go and pull Rocky Marciano out of his ass?"
"He whooped Joe Louis's Ass"
@@iamgoat5863 “Joe Louis was 135 years old!!!” - Coming to America.
@@MTM342 "I don't know old he was but got his ass whooped"
Coming to America Moment
I had the same coming to America moment 😆
Knocking down Marciano was like a badge of honor because that’s the best you’d ever get fighting him.
Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles weighed a massive181 pounds when he won the Vacant HW title against Walcott in 1949. Charles had the lowest ever 43% KO percentage and weighed a Huge 182 pounds when he lost his HW title exactly 2 years later against who? Walcott of course. What a joke. The entire ordeal was between a LHW and two cruiserweights (Charles, Moore & Marciano).
Rocky was relentless and fought with brutal fury......a champions desire to win at all costs......and the perfect gentleman outside of the ring.
40 Marciano opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F.
Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs (F-level)
Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs (D-level)
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs (F-level)
Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs (F-level)
Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs (F-level)
Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D to F-level)
Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs (F-level)
Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs (F-level)
Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level)
Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs (D to F-level)
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D to F-level)
Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs (F-level)
Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs (D-level)
Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs (D-level)
Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs (D-level)
Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs (D-level)
Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.
Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.
Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see who he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.
Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.
Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.
Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-level resume. Problem is he was a natural middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight. Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. I thought this was the Heavyweight division? Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight champion?
Even Marciano's best 3 opponents; Walcott-Charles-Moore lost (68) times and were KO'd (20) times. Marciano never faced an elite fighter in his prime. Name one, just one prime elite fighter Marciano beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore were in their prime when they fought Marciano?
IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0...D AND F-LEVEL HOMELESS WALK-IN BOXERS TAKIN-DIVES AND PADDIN RECORDS FOR $$$...NUMBERS DO NOT LIE
*In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine
37 LaStarza opponents: We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they are. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using US school grades A, B, C, D, and F. Marciano 183 lbs 25-0 vs. LaStarza 187 lbs 37-0. Their fight was officially called a draw then later changed to a Split Decision. Jessie Abramson of the New York Daily Herald said, "it was condemned around ringside as a miscarriage of justice." Anyhow here's LaStarza's first 37 D and F-level opponents:
#37) Cesar Brion - 49 wins 11 losses with 36% KOs (C-level). Brian's career record looks okay until ya see how many of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians.
Walter Hafer - 22 wins 26 losses with 26% KOs (F-level)
Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs (D-level)
Jackie Lyons - 32 wins 24 losses with 23% KOs 23% (D-level)
Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy Carollo - 36 wins 17 losses with 16% KOs (D-level)
Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs (D-level)
Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs (D-level)
Bill Weinberg - 44 wins 22 losses with 34% KOs (D-level)
Gene Gosney - 14 wins 5 losses with 42% KOs (C-minus level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level)
Mike Jacobs - 14 wins 16 losses with 12% KOs (D-level)
Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs (D-level)
Mel McKinney - 8 wins 10 losses with 5% KOs (F-level)
Teddy Georges - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs (F-level)
Oscar Goode - 43 wins 23 losses with 20% KOs (D-level)
Tony Gangemi - 21 wins 18 losses with 26% KOs (D-level)
Benny Rusk - 20 wins 17 losses with 27% KOs (D-level)
Fred McManus - 18 wins 19 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
John Holloway - 2 wins 11 losses with 15% KOs (F-level)
Claude McClintock - 1 win 9 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Steve King - 21 wins 11 losses with 17% KOs (D-level)
Jimmy White - 9 wins 17 losses with 11% KOs (F-level)
Frankie Reed - 2 wins 14 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Mike Belluscio - 15 wins 10 losses with 37% KOs (D-level)
Luther McMillan - 13 wins 19 losses with 12% KOs (F-level)
Fred Ramsey - 8 wins 12 losses with 28% KOs (F-level)
Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Lorne McCarthy - 2 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs (D-level)
Matt Mincy - 0 wins 11 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Zeke Brown - 0 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs (F-level)
Jim Johnson - 3 wins 22 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Jimmy Dodd - 8 wins 12 losses with 22% KOs (F-level)
Al Zappala - 20 wins 27 losses with 9% KOs (F-level)
Zack Johnson - 3 wins 7 losses with 10% KOs (F-level)
Dave Glanton - 1 win 13 losses with 7% KOs (F-level)
Promoters lookin for a way to get their prizefighters a big payoff will first invest thousands of dollars in padding his numbers against truly horrendous opponents. A guy who’s undefeated at 37-0, for example, might not be any better than a more seasoned boxer with a lousy record--The Ring Magazine
I've studied King Fury, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Klitschko brothers, Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Ike Ibeabuchi etcetera and little Marciano's division was truly horrendous and dreadfully awful.
There are some who never give up. There is nothing to do, they do not go down. And if they go down, they get up. You will always find them before you, maybe staggering, blood-filled, ready to step on. Sport teaches you cannot always win... They do not care, do not believe that, and always win: with a broken nose, with closed eye, a blood-red mouth. Rocky was like this. Rough, wild, fearless. His straight right punch was equivalent to a 9th grade richter. His left hook punch was an electroshock. He was not there to lose. An invincible.
Rocky was almost as popular as the President and so many sports writers across America was printing information about him during his championship years. Some of that material is rare and great sources of authentic information.
Rocky Marciano: The 13th Candle
Rocky Marciano: Training And Meal Of Great Champion
The Rocky Marciano Story - 1954
Rocky Marciano's Book of Boxing and Bodybuilding
Rocky Marciano: The Winner !
This Guy Marciano
Rocky Marciano: A Life Story
Rocky Marciano: Undefeated Heavyweight Champion Of The World
Rocky: The Story Of A Champion
Undefeated: Rocky Marciano The Fighter Who Refused To Lose
Rocky Marciano: The Brockton Blockbuster
Rocky Marciano: The Immortal Champion
Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times
Rocky Marciano: Biography Of A First Son
Unbeaten
And much more through boxing magazines, newspaper articles, 1952 LIFE magazine, 1955 Sports Illustrated, etcetera.
I stand by the "5 pounds" built into his combat boots only through his early training years at the park next to his mother/father's house. When his training became more advanced he ran in Converse black-and-white version of the All Star tennis shoes.
"A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise..." Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
A great fighter, Champ, and inspiration.
A great fighter, Champ, and inspiration.
What a legendary and humble man,and this video is boxing poetry 🤩
That just made me cry, when they said Joe kissed his coffin and wept. He was a true Champion as well. God rest'em both
You cried? Baaaaahahahhaaaaahahahaaaaa.
Blubbing away with a hanky actually crying . Wow sers
@@dianefirth8800 😭😭😭
@@chanellegagaTakes a coward to be afraid of tears.
I’m sure you’ve cried when they forgot part of your takeout order.
Thats because apparently Rocky was a huge Joe Louis fan and when Rocky beat him, Rocky felt sorry for having to fight him passed his Prime and respected him, Rocky was also quite progressive for his era, challengening and befriending fighters reguardless of color and era, from Joe Louis to Muhammad Ali.
Marciano was the living embodiment of a warrior: Disciplined, relentless, tough, and humble. Also, a lot of people don't know this but he wrestled in high school and was pretty good at it too. Imagine if they had MMA back then and he competed? Truly one of the Greats.
Fun fact; Rocky was a swarmer, which meant he was a close range fighter. His arms measured 67 inches across, which was the shortest reach of any heavyweight (at the time), so he was unable to keep his opponents at a distance with jabs. Luckily, he made up for it with 3 tools that helped him to compensate which was able to carry him to both the Championship Title all the way to his final Title Defense. 1, his style; According to a TV interview, he had to improvise a sort of swashbuckling style that helped him get in close to his opponents. 2, his endurance; One of Rocky's best and greatest qualities was the fact that he could take so much punishment and still go after his opponent. 3, Suzie Q; Rocky invented one of the most well known punches in the world of boxing, a punch that kinda acted as his secret weapon, billed as the "Overhand Right From Hell", and named after a dance, it was the Suzie Q. It's said that this was the most devastating weapon in Rocky's arsenal and, according to a test done in the 50s, was said to have the power equivalent to that of lifting one ton a foot off the ground
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I'm sure most Rocky fans remember that fictitious story about our military designing a gizmo inorder to test the light heavyweights punching power? Well Rocky's brother, Peter, said, *"His punches were measured by a professor at Harvard and there's a writing on it, and this professor gauged the strength of his punching blow to like X amount of pounds, it's almost like a small automobile hitting you."* --@ 42:01 Rocky Marciano: A Life Story | Full Movie | Marino Amoruso
Harvard's only 27 miles away from Brockton, Rocky's hometown. What does gauge mean? Cambridge dictionary says, *"to make a judgement."* So there it is, a deceptive distorted erroneous misleading and untruthful story about our military building a machine to test little Rocky's power. And all along it was a hometown teacher *"writing"* a story about his hometown hero.
*6' 4" 270 lb UFC Heavyweight Champion Francis Ngannou with 83" reach created the hardest punch ever measured in 2018. Ngannou recorded a punch of 129,161 units on a PowerKube.*
Roland LaStarza's interview about his two fights with Marciano: *"I'm sure as income taxes that I was the winner. Every reporter there said I was robbed. Before the first fight Al Weill promised us a return immediately if the fight was close. The next day he said, 'We don't want to go back'. After that he avoided us for 3 ½ years."*
LaStarza discounted the stories about the damage Marciano inflicted on his arms in their second fight. *"There was a rumor after the fight that he hurt my shoulders and arms a lot, but the truth was that I had weak elbows from the fight before, and they were giving me trouble. With the state of my elbows I really could not give a good account of myself. During the fight I was under the influence of pain killers and I really needed them. Marciano couldn't hit me on the behind for the first five rounds.Then in the sixth I got hit on my bad elbow, the strength went out of me, and I just stood there from then on. He tried his damnedest to KO me but I was still standing in the end.* 'A RIVALRY FOR THE AGES: ROLAND LaSTARZA REMEMBERS THE MARCIANO WARS' by James Dusgate November 1990 Ring magazine page 46.
If 178 to 184 lb tiny cruiser Rocky was *all-Powerful* why didn't he ever break any bones? *He never broke one rib, one nose, one eye-socket, one jaw or detached one retina.* If he did i assure you every single Rocky fan on the planet would be talking about it, right?
Marciano catches lightning in a bottle ONE time vs. Walcott and his fans automatically assume he's the most powerful puncher that ever lived.
Rocky never had 43 KO's, half were TKO's. Count them. There's a Huge difference between KO's and TKO's. LaStarza and Cockell were still standing, correct?
Rocky's entire legacy has been built around that "one" lucky KO against a guy that was at least 40 years of age, if not older. *Just before Walcott gets KO'd where are both of his hands? They are at waist level. Why? Bcz he's worn out and his reflexes are shot. Father time waits for no one!*
Roland LaStarza with all his supposed "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels" only had minor surgery to remove tiny bone chips from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. Elbow arthroscopy is a minimally invasive procedure. It's a common boxing injury yet y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. Besides, Roland said, *"I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano."* (I have the article).
Here's the newspaper article about Layne's tooth: *"Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gum shield."* ...So, Rex only sustained *"ONE"* broken tooth!!!
This is important. *If all of Layne's front teeth were sheared off at the gum's it would have been virtually impossible for Layne to fight Charles exactly 3 months later! Correct?* Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slipping and falling on the ice. One broken tooth, what's the big deal?
The Marciano Tapes #6 @3:40 Marciano confesses Carmine Vingo hit the back of his head on the plywood flooring. *He said, "it so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."*
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo, not Marciano's punch. *It's no wonder Vingo said, "I WAS SLAUGHTERED FOR A CROWD" --source: The Saturday Evening Post by Carmine Vingo as told by Seymour Shubin*
*Carmine Vingo's F-LEVEL opponents:*
*1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
*2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
*3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* (Turner's only purpose was padding records).
*4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another paid diver).
*5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL* (Vingo Loses).
*6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* (Another Diver).
*9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why).
*10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
*11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
*12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? We all know why).
*13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* (SECOND time Vingo fights this guy. Why? Isn't it obvious? To pad his fraudulent resume).
*15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* (Another 183 lb light heavyweight moonlighting as Heavyweight, they were dime a dozen back then).
*16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* (Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought *FOUR* opponents *TWICE* within 16 bouts. The majority of his opponents had losing records. This is all to reminiscent of Roland LaStarza's resume).
*17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* (Vingo actually fights a debuting amateur (0-0-0) just before he faces Rocky. Why? Worst division in boxing history).
*18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses *A-minus-LEVEL for extremely short 7 year career. In comparison Moore had 27 year career.* (Vingo was completely outclassed and never had a chance from the get-go. I saw their Getty Museum pics and Marciano didn't have a single mark on his face, his eyes were wide open and clear).
All this time i was mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight champ. Instead he was prepped for *SLAUGHTER JUST TO PLEASE A CROWD* --Carmine Vingo
*WHAT THEY DID TO VINGO WAS A TRAVESTY*
He was a true champion, absolutely brutal, with immense power -- and a lot of class too.
@Mr Evil Pickle Demon sauce More exaggerated hyperbolic bombastic rhetoric
As a Marciano naysayer, I see a very weak era between Louis and Liston. I think Walcott in the first Louis fight (where he was robbed of the title) and the Ezzard who beat Walcott the first time, then Louis to replace Joe as champ, both would have beaten Rocky, but like Joe both were past their prime when Rocky beat them. I see no great achievement in beating Cockell, LaStarza and Moore. Rocky was the best of a bad lot and had Liston started boxing when he was committing crimes and avoiding jail, you would never had heard of Rocky. Styles make fights and Marciano was tailor made for Sonny, who would taken Rocky out in the first.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici the most you can do is be the best of your time, everything else is irrelevant, rocky was the best of his time, period
There’s only a few who weren’t arrogant braggarts and Rocky was the only undefeated heavyweight champion,who was also humble.A lot of people always say what would’ve,could’ve should’ve but he remains the only undefeated heavyweight champion who retired undefeated heavyweight champion.
@@clintwalker6389 Rocky was not born with fast twitch muscle fibers like Mike Tyson. Put an additional 25 lbs on Marciano and he woulda moved slower than molasses. Mike was genetically gifted with fast fibers and came out the gate sprinting like 220 lb Quarter Horse. While 185 lb Rocky came out the gate shuffling forward like turtle. Prime Tyson KO's prime Marciano 10 out of 10 times!
The punch that KOed Jersey Joe is easily the best single Punch I’ve ever seen. I didn’t know it was possible to make a man’s head do that without killing
Them.
Greatest KO everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Agreed...most powerful,brutal punch I've ever seen in boxing.
Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought I don't know how old he was but he got his ass whooped 😂🤣😭
@@roberthardeman2023 37
@@gracedagostino5231 Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano! The man was seventy-six years old! Joe Louis always lied about his age! He lied about his age all the time! One time, Frank Sinatra came in here, and sat in this chair. I say, "Frank, you hang out with Joe Louis. Just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis?" Know what Frank told me? He said "Hey, Joe Louis is a hundred thirty-seven years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!
49-0 undefeated undisputed heavyweight champion of the world!
Not really. Rocky won his first pro fight, then went back to the amateurs and lost to Coley Wallace before turning pro again. That should not have been allowed
@@XapnoMapkc who tf cares?
@@dislikebutton966 I don't know. Who cares about anything?
@First name Last name March 17, 1947. Rocky Marciano's pro debut in Holyoke Mass vs Lee Epperson. KO3
Marciano then had his 7th, 8th and 9th amateur fights in January/February 1948.
March 1, 1948. Rocky's 10th Amateur fight. This one for the Golden Gloves All-East Coast Championships, New York, New York vs. Coley Wallace. L3
July12, 1948 Rocky's 2nd pro fight vs Harry Balzarian. KO1
Check out the dates on the internet and see if I am right.
@@XapnoMapkc pro is the only thing that count you ass clown
Why do so many judge Rocky Marciano unfairly? He only had 12 amateur bouts and didn't turn pro till 24 years of age. Using Ali as a comparison, he had 180 amateur fights and turned pro at 18. What Rocky accomplished is astonishing in my opinion.
ROCKY PROVED THAT HEIGHT, WEIGHT, REACH, EXPERIENCE, DON'T MATTER!
Not only did Rocky's big bones give him the ability to carry more weight, it was the main reason for his tremendous power.
HEROES GET REMEMBERED, BUT LEGENDS NEVER DIE!
Rocky was relentless and fought with brutal fury.....a champions desire to win at all costs.....and the perfect gentleman outside of the ring.
The reason Rocco Francis Marchegiano is so disliked is because he's actually African American.
Don't let anyone tell you different, Marciano faced some very formidable hall of fame opponents. Walcott and Charles were not washed up when they fought him. They both fought the first fight brilliantly. While Rocky stopped the old mongoose it was a grueling fight. At first Moore seemed the better boxer but the Blockbuster would not be stopped. His incredible conditioning and brutal punching were all to much for Archie. Rocky defined what the heart of a champion is in this fight.
Soft spoken Lennox Lewis at his best was the total package. When he fought seriously he was pretty much untouchable. The last undisputed Super Heavyweight champion emerged as cream of the crop against some of the biggest punchers in Heavyweight history.
Lewis avenged his only two defeats by knockout. He didn't make excuses for his only two losses, he said, "It's Heavyweights, you can get caught, but i won the rematches in style," and "Show me a Heavyweight Champion without a loss and i'll show you a fighter that fought a lot of nobodies."
Lewis haters always say, "but he got knocked out twice ha-ha." Well i say, "Mike Tyson got knocked out FIVE times ha-ha, and Ali lost his best 30 years of retirement from having his faculties traumatized for an entire decade. Watching his head used as catchers mitt 100,000 times was ha-ha. IT'S NOT HOW YOU START IT'S HOW YOU FINISH."
58 year old Lennox is the GOAT. To hear him talk so clearly and eloquently after going up against 18 Heavyweight Champions is remarkable.
*The 18 HW Champions Lewis faced: Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker, Hasim Rahman, Oliver McCall, Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande, Tommy Morrison and Ray Mercer were later recognized as WBO champions, British HW champion Gary Mason, European HW champion Jean Chanet, Commonwealth HW champion Derek Williams, Canada HW champion Razor Ruddock, IBF/WBF HW champion Michael Grant, and WBC International HW champion David Tua...*[[ technically not all were 'World' champions but champions nonetheless ]].* Other notable mentions; *Olympic HW Silver medalist Riddick Bowe, Olympic HW Gold medalist Tyrell Briggs, Andrew Golota, Zeljko Mavrovic, Frans Botha and Phil Jackson* ..Name another Super Heavyweight with a better resume? Only person i can think of is Wladimir Klitschko.
How many prime authentic
200+lb HW champions did
little 184-lb cruiserweight
with flyweight reach fight??
*""ZERO""!!!!*
Imagine little Rocky trying to fight
top-notch Super Heavyweights with
80" to 86" albatross wingspans and
40 to 100-lb weight advantages??
Think, people. Think.
How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis
Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter.
Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula.
Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges.
Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!!
Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez why are you so angry?
Walcott was out of his prime for both fights: Walcott - 37 & 38; Rocky 28 & 29. A boxers prime years was considered 28 to 32 y/o. Ya boy fought old men. hahahahaha
Don Turner knows way more than you...hater. Modern boxers suck and are soft compared to old school. Every notable trainer agrees about this.