Jazakallah hu khairan Qaiser bhai... I was already sure that he will build his arguments on lies and misrepresentations... To embarrass himself. To be honest, embarrassment is itself embarrassed after such shameful acts by these so called intellectuals... Keep up the good work. May Allah S.W.T guide those who are willing to seek truth and accept the reality. Shaykh Ahmad Deedat once said: "Islam will always win, with or without you. But you will always lose without Islam."
Did you intentionally omit the word 'absolutely' in your second sentence? He isn't saying that Islam is absolutely immoral; rather, he's saying Islam is immoral. There's a distinction. Also just a side note, I'm Muslim
ASSLAM ALYKUM BROTHER QAISER AHMED RAJA,MAY ALLAH ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY AND THE WHOLE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE WORKING TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL AND RESPONDING TO SUCH CRITICISM (and lies told about Islam) AND MAKING PEOPLE REALISE THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM!!! AMEEN SUMAMEEN JAZAK ALLAH KHAIR!!!!!
2:53 Qaiser bhai, you are wrong. there is no such thing as absolute morality. E.g., Incest is haram but Children of Adam married own sisters and brothers. Drinking Alcohol is haraam now, but before this forbiddance, Sahaba would drink alcohol. Absolute means for all times and for all circumstances. which is never the case in reality. Bhai mere, even Salat and Saum (roza) have to be adjusted in Norway and northern hemisphere countries, where you need to pray and end fast based on sun rise and sunset. So again there is no absolute morality.
Please define and answer Absolute morality related to someone who is practicing .....If someone is lying it doesn't mean that truth is not an absolute morality ...lack of knowledge....🤔🤔🤔 ....then please give any solid reference from Quran or Sahih hadees that brother and sister married ,again lack of knowledge.....SUGGESTION :(WATCH AWAZ E HAQ OLD CHANNEL VIDEO RELATED TO HOW SOMEONE BECOME ATHIEST PART 1) Aqaal ka istamaal karo lekin zara ghor kr kay ....I don't know fake I'd hai apki ya orignal hai ....
@@waqas077 If adam and eve didn't have sex so can you tell how lineage of adam and eve went forward if there is no incest ?Were babies downloaded in mobile apps ??
@ufaqishtiaq43 Can you give me an example of what you consider as Absolute morality Which disbelievers Can't practice as disbelievers! What's the role of M identity?
@Asif islamically absolute ka matlab hai jo Allah ne batadya. To agar pehlay shariat ke kuch ahkamaat different thy abhi ki shariat se, to woh shariyat bhi Allah hi ne nazil kari thi. Objectivity ka criteria Allah hai Muslims ke liye. Is liye ye koi argument nahi hai ke bilfarz agar koi cheez pehlay sahi thi to ab bhi sahi honi chahye. Aur Ye bhi koi argument nahi hai ke agar pehlay aur ab ke nazal hui huwi shariyat different hai to iska matlab morals objective ya absolute nahi. Iska aap sirf ye matlab nikal saktay hain ke Allah ne shariat ko change Kara hai. Morals Abhi bhi objective hain kyunke morals define karnay wala batanay wala Allah hai. Aap 'absolute' ko 'fixed" se confuse kar rahay hain.
Absolute morality ka matlab yeh hai ke jo Allah ne kah diya wo absolute hai wo sahi hai no matter something jo kah diya is daur ke liye wo absolute hai usmai koi shak nhi Maslan ami hai wo abhi apko kehti bike chalana ek umar mai sahi nhi 6 saal ki umar mai magar jab wo 18 saal ki umar mai pohonchta ya late ten's mai amma allow krten to kiya yeh absolutely correct nhi tha unka decision?? The truth is from the day one it was absolutely correct kyuke ammi ne apke faide ke liye hi achi niyyat se soocha tha absolutely ka matlab 100% guarantee he ke wo sahi hai Yahi kaam Allah ne agr allow ki thi certain cheezen pehle aur ab disallow krden to wo fixed to nhi magar absolute hain 100% yaqeeni baat hai ke yehi ab mauyar hai yehi standard hai yahi magar Harris Sultan said ke absolute hai hi nhi guarantee nhi de skta ke yeh ghalat hai ya sahi.... Moreover he also said agr society normalize krleti kisi cheez ko to wo sahi ban jata yani ke society can itself determine morals and change....
Qaiser sb ap ne bohot badnamo krwai, apni b aur Islam ki b. Jb apka ilmi level itna tha e ni, to kion bethay Haris k samny... Behtar tha k ap na krty debate. Pata ni kia smjha wa apny khud ko
Harris ko aqalamand samjhna illiteracy ki nishaani hai. Learn some basics about Objective and subjective morality. Learn what implications and limitations each type has. Phir aapko samajh ayega ke Harris just wasted time in that debate. For your ease, I'll mention 2 things: 1, At the very beginning Harris conceded that there is no absolute/objective morality for atheist. He conceded that there is no standard moral principles. He lost the debate at this point, because he was supposed to prove that atheistic morality cab be derived from first principles. He didn't even try. 2, Secondly, he said that atheist have no absolute morality, he believes in subjective morality, and there's no absolute universal morality. For your ease, it means that each subject (humans in this context) can have their own morality. So how can he claim that Islam is right or wrong? How can he claim *Anything* is right or wrong? Because there's no absolute standard according to him right? Everyone can have their own standards right? The stupidity is that he himself says that there is no right or wrong and at the same time claims right or wrong about Islam all the time. By his undefined standards and subjective morality he can't even make any claims. Let alone making criticism about Islam. This is so basic, I can't believe you and others, especially Hindus can't see this. Hindus don't even get that if they still support Harris, logically they are admitting defeat because Hinduism is antithetical to atheism. Anyways, these are just basics
اللہ تعالی نے شیطان کا غرور دیکھ کر اس کو اس کے حال پر چھوڑ دیا ورنہ ایک طرف اللہ تعالی کی ذات تھی اور دوسری طرف بہت زیادہ علم رکھنے والا ملائک مگر اللہ تعالی نے اس کے ساتھ علمی گفتگو یا زیادتی نہیں کی اور اس کو اس کے حال پر چھوڑ دیا اسی طرح کہا گیا ہے کہ جاہل کے ساتھ مناظرہ نہ کرو کیونکہ جاہل کوئی بات سمجھنے کے لئے تیار نہیں ہوتا ہے اسلام کو کسی چیز سے بدنامی نہیں ہوتی جو بھی اسے بدنام کرنا چاہئے ہے وہ خود ہی بدنام ہوتا ہے
jis tarah engineer jahil is tarah iss k muqalid jahil, jis tarah haris nei mana k atheism ki koi morality nahi, iss trah tera bhi koi viewpoint nahi hai
Regarding the issue of marriage with a minor and the waiting periods (iddah/iddat) of different types of divorced women The following is written solely for academic purpose. There are two Ayats or Verses under discussion. The first one is from sūrah al-Ahzāb. O you who believe, when you marry believing women and then divorce them before you have marital relations, then you have no ‘iddah upon them… (Qur’an 33:49) The second āyah under discussion is from sūrah al-Talāq. And those of your women who have passed the age of monthly courses and those who have no courses, if you have doubts, their ‘iddah is three months… (Qur’an 65:4) The āyat in al-Ahzāb is stating that if a couple has not engaged in marital relations, then the woman does not have to observe an ‘iddah in case of a divorce. This is regardless of the age of the wife. On the other hand, the āyat in al-Talāq is discussing the ‘iddah of a woman in the case where the couple had engaged in marital relations. A prepubescent girl, with whom a marriage is not normally consummated, falls within the ruling mentioned in al-Ahzab. Another scenario is that at times, even though a girl reaches the age of maturity, she still does not menstruate due to certain medical conditions. However, because of her having reached maturity, she and her husband may have consummated the marriage. In the case of a divorce and the absence of menstruation in this scenario, she will observe an ‘iddah equivalent to three lunar months. This is the ruling mentioned in al-Talaq. Hence, there is no contradiction in rulings, as they discuss different scenarios. The fact that it is permissible to marry a minor girl does not imply that it is permissible to have intercourse with her, rather the husband should not have intercourse with her until she becomes able for that. It is permitted to contract marriage with a young girl. As for consummating the marriage, this does not happen until she is physically able for it. Thus the matter becomes quite clear. Also important to note is that a marriage contract for a minor in shariah law is allowed only if the following conditions are met. 1. Her father marries her off. It is not permitted for anyone, other than the father to marry her off. 2. The father must be mentally sane and possess integrity. 3. There must be a benefit or welfare for the young lady in the marriage.
@@bobobobo3142 Quite possible but not necessary. Depends on the character of the person, circumstances, accommodation, housing, well being, education and various factors that are taken into consideration.
@@NaasihunAmeen No one in their sane mind will do it. It is actually illegal in Pakistan as well as Saudi Arabia. Being a Muslim I can not justify two things, one slavery, and concubines' issue. I didn't know Prophet Muhammad PBUH had a concubine named Maria Qibtiya and she even gave birth to his son Ibrahim. She was gifted to him. Prophet never banned slavery in his life, so it kept being practiced in Arabs until the 1960s. Secondly this child marriage thing. No one in their right mind can marry a 4-5 old
@@NaasihunAmeen i will be glad if someone like you bring forward your 5 or 6 year old daughter and i can convince any of your great scholars like mufti taqi usmani etc (as they hold all the great values you are looking for) to marry your daughter ... this will do 2 great things ... 1 - it will revive the sunnah of the prophet ... 2 - it will really show that you really believe it is good and are not being a hypocrite let me know when you are ready to marry your daughter and i will start speaking with ulemas to convince them to marry her ... please respond what you actually feel instead of just winning the point
@@bobobobo3142 Slavery was of two types. Preexisting slavery before Islamic law. The beating of a slave results in freedom and emancipation in Islam by the way. Freeing of slaves is also an atonement so people think multiple times before committing a sin or unlawful act. Freedom of slaves is a recommended and praiseworthy act in Islam. Second type of slavery was enslavement of people who were at war and tried to annihilate Muslims or could pose a threat to them in the future. It's also not an obligation to enslave people who are defeated in war. They can be set free with or without ransom. A concubine only has relations with either her owner or her husband not multiple men. A slave woman who gives birth to her owner's child becomes free after the death of her owner. Slaves can even buy their freedom through a contract Besides the rules mentioned above enslaving someone is not allowed. Also read about the Mamluks. Child marriage contract is one thing and sexual relations is another. For intercourse, the person's health and fitness are to be considered.
Is it possible that Emaan Union can put a compilation against all the Hadith that Harris has shared? He shares a link under most of his videos about the collection of Hadith that he has gone through. Can Emaan Union kindly compile a list of them and give proper explanation for each of the "Sahih Hadiths" only? Whether they're right or wrong and the context behind them. It'll be a huge benefit for the entire Muslim Ummah. I'm not talking about making videos for each of them. Just a simple Excel/Sheets Table with Hadith no in 1 column and it's explanation or context in the next column. Thank you
@@human_hope I'm pretty sure if they try they can do it. The list is massive and it may require months or a year or more. Hope they work together on it. I appreciate that Harris took the time and effort to compile the list. Rest is up to the Islamic scholars to show their effort too.
@@123arskas if they ever do it, which I swear they will not because they can't - and if you remember reply to this comment when they do it. I'd love to see
The issue HS raised on menses and its relation with marriage.... I want to clarify it According to science.... Uterus is a child bearing organ ( as heart defiend as pumping organ)and menstration occurs if failure of fertilization and implantation takes place. According to science the Normal age of menstration is 8 years Purpose of marriage in islam is childern. And according to sceince pupose of menses is childern Science defines normal age of menses is 8 years for girls while islam defines purpose of menses 1400 years ago through Hazrat Ayesha R.A. this should be considered as mujza of islam but people are ignorant Regarding precocious puberty, it means menses occurs before 8 years but in science it is called pathology means abnormal menses due to any ovarian tumor or any other etiology... Science defines what is normal and what is abnormal menses and defines is cutoff age 8 years Islam defines it 1400 years ago
Qaisar Ahmad Raza Sir, Harish Sultan se koi debate Hui hi nahi wo to saf bola atheist morality aisi koi chij hoti nahi to debate finished aur aap jit Gaye ❤❤ baki time be hurmati ho Rahi thi jiske liye apko dusri Debate rakhni thi🔥🔥
Qaiser Sahab bara e meherbani aapnay jo bhi wazahatain di hain uskay references bhi provide karain... Sirf aik slide aapnay is poori video main dikhai uskay neechay bhi reference nhi likha....
The unjustified attack on the moderator and the inability to directly address the questions raised by other scholars of Islam including Mufti Al Wajidi are all the kinds of behavior you expect from a bitter camp that felt they lost a debate.....and thanks to his performance, QR has sowed the seeds of questioning and disbelief even among his own followers or fair minded youth. With all due respect, your side deserves better representation.
Very well put. Qaiser Raja was obviously unprepared because he frequently disagreed with classical scholars without providing an adequate justification and avoided answering the actual questions posed by HS.
Haris admitted that no atheists morality. This statement is not even accepted by all atheist. After saying no atheists morality, Haris lost 50% of the debate. Hadis was daeef then You(HR) have to prove sahih.
As a Muslim I'm very disappointed from some Muslims in the comment section who because of their ignorance on how to do a FAIR debate are bashing br Qaisar and they are thinking that "Islam ki badnami ho gai hai". Wallahi if you really think that then you are just being ignorant. You can CLEARLY SEE from the beginning of the debate when H.Puss (Nick name of Harris sultan by Muhammad Hijab and we all call him like that in the UK) started the debate. Muslims, if you don't have knowledge then go do your homework and learn your Deen! May Allah guide us all!
Islam sikhayen. Jugglery of words mein logon ko bewakoof na bnaien. Ap k zati understanding or interpretation koi ni dekhna chahta. Evidence k sath short bat krain. If you think that listeners are fool then you are badly mistaken. The truth is that you have no evidence to justify your position. Hawai fire Mar k logon ko convince krny wala doar guzr gya a. Abbas haider aik sharif insaan ki peeth peechay usay galiyan Dena, ye ha defensive position ap ki? Or sharif ul nafas insaan ko galiyan dety way sun k daant nikalna was a way of defending your position for you? Sharam tum ko magar zara ni ati. Islam ko defend kr rahay ho ya Islam k peechay khud ko hide kr rhy ho????
Debate me to aapki matti paleet hui hi.... Magar Har cheez ki tarah Girne ki bhi ek hadd hoti hai, jise aap paar kar chuke ho... jo kuch aap ne Abbas Haider bhai ke sath kiya
Abbas Haider per jo comments apki traf se kiye gye thy live stream per, uske baad apki videos dekhne ko filhaal dil nahi krta, balke Unsub krne ko dil krta hy. Eman union ne bri Be Emani ka muzahira kiya hy. Bri strong apology ki zrorat hy Ap sab ki traf se. Ek adhi post se kam nahi chal sakta.
حد ہے جہالت کی جو بات عامر حق نے کہی اسکا حساب اور اسکی صفائی قیصر صاحب سے مانگنا جہالت ہے اگر آپ کا فارمولا ایسا ہی ہے تو ڈیبیٹ کے دوران حارث ملعون نے لفظ " پیل دیا" استعمال کیا کیا اسکی صفائی عباس حیدر سے مانگی جائے گی ؟
@@afnan_a او جی سرکار پھر اسی فارمولے کو عباس حیدر صاحب پر فٹ کر لیں ، حارث ، کے پیل دیا جیسے اکیڈمک لفظ پر عباس صاحب کی خاموشی تایید مان لیتا ہوں 😂ٹھک ہو گیا بھائی کیوں عباس صاحب پر ظلم کر رہے ہو اک تو انہوں نے پہلے ہی غلط بٹن دبا دی اوپر سے آپ ایسے کمنٹ کر رہے ہو یار میں نے عباس کی دونوں ویڈیوز سنیں حارث اور قیصر صاحب کی پوری ڈیبیٹ دیکھی ہویٔ ہے
Qesar Bhai apki waja sy mery mind sy atheist or communist liberals etc ko Jo concept tha wo khatam hogya he or islam ka ek acha vision create hogya he bhut bhut shukriya apka ❤😊
I saw the whole debate. Qaiser, you did awesome debate. It was so much one-sided. Harris was just like any other looser who, when he didn't have any logic or point, started a useless attack. And the way you counter attack him, it was brilliant and most intellectual.
قیصر بھائی، حضرت آئشہ (رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنھا) کی عمر کے بارے میں جو ملحدین اعتراض کرتے ہیں اس پر آپکا کیا موقف ہے, براے مہربانی اس پر بھی ویڈیو ضرور بنائیے۔
Ulma e karam ne hazrat Ayesha ki age calculate ki ha with respect to her elder sister hazrat asma bint e abu bakar is k ilawa aik or Akali daleel b ha K apni aulad k hoty Hoye Jo k khud chotay bachy thy to Kya Rasool Allah ghar or bachy sambhalne k Liye aik or chota bacha to nahi Lana tha... Is Liye hazrat Ayesha ki age according to calculations 29 years banti thi
@@hammadurrehman8189 ulama ny calculate nhe ki ha... Badtareen yalghar ky natijay main modern musalmanu ny apni kitabain truck ky nechy phenk kr 6 years of age ka inkar kiya ha😂😂😂....
@@hammadurrehman8189 Subhan Allah being a muslim ap hud k itni bari hadees ka fahm kamoz bana rhy k ulma ny count ki. Hosh k nakhun ly sir Seerah parhain saboot apko hud mil jay ga.
@@hassangilani772 Raja bhai ki tarah aap ne bhi sirf galiaan hi nikali. Raja bhai ki tarah aap ka intellect bhi duniya ke samne aagaya. Raja bhai Ka Baj gaya Baja.
@@usmanayoube usman bhai ap ke kitne ghatia judgement hai usman bhai you are very wrong raja ne to koi ghaliaan nahi nikaleeee haan me ne ghalliaan nikaleee hein ap loggon ki buhat chootii soch hai bhai ye ghalib or haris ghatia tareen log hein ye jis tarah ek bande ki muqadas hasteeeon ko zaleel kartee hein tu kya me in ko dua dooon ye khal utare jane ke qabal hein in ki khaal utarne chayeee ap ki sooch be buhat ghalat hai is haris haramzade se sirf jhail mutassir hotee hein ye zaleel tareen shaksh hai ap ke jhail soooch dunya ke samne a gaye or haris ko suna jhail bano
Anas reported that a person was charged with fornication with the slavegirl of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to 'Ali: Go and strike his neck. 'Ali came to him and he found him in a well making his body cool. 'Ali said to him: Come out, and as he took hold of his hand and brought him out, he found that his sexual organ had been cut. Hadrat 'Ali refrained from striking his neck. He came to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) and said: Allah's Messenger, he has not even the sexual organ with him. حَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَفَّانُ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ، أَخْبَرَنَا ثَابِتٌ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، كَانَ يُتَّهَمُ بِأُمِّ وَلَدِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم لِعَلِيٍّ " اذْهَبْ فَاضْرِبْ عُنُقَهُ " . فَأَتَاهُ عَلِيٌّ فَإِذَا هُوَ فِي رَكِيٍّ يَتَبَرَّدُ فِيهَا فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ اخْرُجْ . فَنَاوَلَهُ يَدَهُ فَأَخْرَجَهُ فَإِذَا هُوَ مَجْبُوبٌ لَيْسَ لَهُ ذَكَرٌ فَكَفَّ عَلِيٌّ عَنْهُ ثُمَّ أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّهُ لَمَجْبُوبٌ مَا لَهُ ذَكَرٌ
how do you charge someone without bringing him infront of jury and then order verdict in his/her absence without listening to his side of story? Then send someone to strike his neck?
Kaisar Saab mujhe Jo hadees sabse zyada pareshan kar Rahi hai vo ye hai Hamare nabi ne ek aurat ko kaha ke usy apna doodh pilao to vo tumhara mehram ho Jayega to aurat ne kaha ke vo bada hai Mai kaise to nabi pak ne ka Mai Janta hu aur hansne Lage Please wajahat kare ye mere Liye bahot zaruri hai Kyu ke hamare nabi ikhlaq me Aala muqam rakhte hai to Ye apki hadees kaise ho sakti hai Ap samajh gaye Mai kis hadees ki bat kar Raha hu Apne us hadees ki wajahat is video me v nahi Kiya halanke ye bahot zaruri hai hamare Liye Vo hamare nabi k shaan me bahot bada gushtakhi Karke Chala gya aur Apne Kuch nahi kaha us hadees ke bare me
Just a historic fact: King Richard II married Isabella of Valois who was 6 years old and Margaret Beaufort, mother of Henry VII, was married at the age of 12. This is just being mentioned as a fact and piece of info.
@@sandeepkumaragnostic Allah k nabi bhi society ka ek hissa hote hain. Iske elawa nabi hamesha allah k hukm k tabe hote hain, wo apni marzi se kuch bhi nhi karte. Quran me sab mentioned hai jisko tum to padhte nhi aur moonh uthakar intervene karne chale aate ho. Zara proper knowledge lo phir bhonka karo.
Qaiser sab ap ne is bad tameez bad akhlaq aur mutakabir insan k ghuror aur takabur ko khak main mila diya hai. Ap aur yasir sab is waqt k isamic hero aur mujahid hai allah tala ap dono ko islam ko defend karne ki tawfeq de.
Moral absolutism me abhi bhi masla arha hy. Chori krna absolutely galat nahi there is expection to the rule, jhoot bolna absolutely na haram hy na jurum hy there are exeption to that, qatal krna absolutely galat nahi yani murder krna there are expection to that (aik muslim agr darul harb me jaaky kisi ko qatal krta hy to usper qisaas nahi chahy chori krny ki he niyat se gya ho), do behno me shadi krna bhi absolutely galat nahi rha moosvi shariat me agr christians or jews follow kren to aj bhi jaiz hy per Allah ny shariat mohammadi utaar kr ussy haram qraar diya, even kufur k sentences bolna bhi absolutely galat nahi expections hen usky liye, haram khana ya khilana bhi absolutely galat nahi usky liye bhi expection hy. To ap kesy kehty hen ki Absolute Morality exist krti hy (objective morality to samjh aati hy per absolute morality ka wajood he maaloom nahi hota)
@@hamzamohiuddin973 tou jb Harris ne bola k Absolutely kuch ghalat ya theek nai hota, tou tb baghlein bajaney ki bjaye mtlb smjh lete tou kya jata?? 😂😂😂
@@Anonymousperson_123 bhai context se clear tha. Objective aur subjective ki hi debate thi jo ke Harris ne start me hi haar maanli ke there is no universal morality. He was supposed to prove why his atheistic morality is objective and universal. Because if it is not objective or universal, then logically He can't pass any judgements. He didn't provide any justification or foundational principles of his morality (which was the topic of the debate). On the other hand he conceded that every society has their own subjective morals, and at the same time he was making moral claims/criticism about Islam. What's so hard to understand dude. No universal standard means no judginging criteria, which means no moral claims. Got it? Raja ke questions aur examples se bhi clear tha. Are u forgetting that raja kept on elaborating, questioning, and pushing Harris to justify that how, on what basis can he say something is right or wrong if there's no fixed standard for him. When raja used the word absolute, he clarified through his questions that he means in the current time frame, meaning after the final revealation has been fully revealed. Aur bhai ye basics hain. Harris has been doing this for years Now. He should know this.
@@hamzamohiuddin973 absolute mein time frame kese aa jata? It’s better to not debate with an Atheist if you can’t answer harsh questions. But the way Raja just disowned all scholarly work just because he felt trapped is beyond painful to watch. I respect religious preachers like Engineer Ali Mirza and other scholars who acknowledge that answering the questions of Atheists while staying with in the boundaries of our religion gets impossible at some point. And that’s exactly what Raja sahab did. He threw everything out of the window just to satisfy his own ego
@@Anonymousperson_123 I've already elaborated the concept of subjective and objective morality. When your morality is subjective, you can't make moral claims bhai. That's the logical conclusion. If he then after says that something is right or wrong then that claim is outright absurd. If he believes in Presentism(everything at present is right. That's what he does. He Makes moral claims about Islam by current/present western standards) then he must first prove why his standard should be universal and enforceable. He makes moral judgements about history using current prevalent subjective standards. This is illogical. If believes in subjective standards, then the standards that he is criticising of the historical events were subjectively acceptable to people of that time and place. Therefore, he has no argument. Don't you get the contradiction? Aur aap jo absolute ki baat kar rahay hain. Mene aapko uska usage or context within the debate batadya hai. What you are talking about is absolute in the sense that it is fixed past, present, future right? But I'm saying that isn't how it was used. You know that Islam, and therefore Allah's commands, were completed at the end of Prophet's (peace be upon him)life right? So when a Muslim makes a claim that something is absolutely wrong it of course means after the final revelation was revealed. Atheistic morality has been changing on daily basis. What's right today will be wrong tomorrow. Such as homosexuality, nudity, and now transgenderism have now become acceptable. So when we say that these things are absolutely wrong past, present, future, we mean it will always be wrong as per and after final revelation. That's the common theme of these debates. So I am not making things up. Watch any such debates. I can name a few. Checkout Muslim sebate initiative, subbor ahmad vs alex conner, hamza tzortzis' had numerous such discussions with academics, thought adventure podcast. If Harris wasn't getting these things he could have clarified the terms and definitions right? But Harris did understood as we understood because he was having hard time condemning transgressions using his sunjective changing standards. Anyways, this debate wasnt of high calibre anyways, because usually, the terms and definitions are made clear before or during the debate. This was the topic of debate. You can criticise what raja did with scholars, but that still doesn't change the fact that Harris didn't even put forth an argument for his case. And if Harris is consistent with his idea of subjective morality, then he should shut down his RUclips channel, because he can't make Any moral claims
وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ ۚ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَٱللَّهُ خَيْرُ ٱلْمَٰكِرِينَ And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved & plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.
That guy Harris had such weak points to discuss. Taking out of context and weak Ahadith to strengthen his backing was itself weakening. I got sick of how he presented the topic. Utter disgust and he lost miserably. May Allah reward Dr. Qaiser for his efforts and reward him with countless blessings in the hereafter
Qaisar bhai did u admit that its ok to hit ur wife if shes caught cheating? Should you maybe just leave that person ? Are you going to feel better by using physical force to revenge ur feelings?
Most respectfully, Your argument that in UK women are honor killed by their boyfriends and husbands sounds a bit dishonest, dear Raja. You are portraying it as a legal alternative for Islamic Process of handling wives. UK law does not establish torturing, mentally or physically, your wives for betrayal. Be honest. Islam is the true religion. It does not need your flawed logic to win a debate. Therefore, avoid such tactics, you will only weaken our cause. Jazakallah
Hmmm mein expact kr raha tha k app abbas haider pr be bat kro ga wo jo amir haq ne abbas ko bola app k hote howay umeed hai us pr be app apna point of view show kro ga jazaakallah
عباس حیدر کو ٹیشو پیپر تھمایہ جا چکا ہے ، کسی (عامر حق)شخص کی ذاتی کمنٹ کی صفائی آپ اگر قیصر صاحب سے مانگ رہیں ہیں تو پھر اس فارمولے کے مطابق بات بہت دور تک چلی جائے گی
@@kamaal_Saif agr raja sab waha amir haq k sath na hote to koi be un se sawal na krta Abbas ne kafi valid question uthay thay jis ma raja sab be shamil hai .
@@maharalihassan8111 سرکار معصومانہ سوال پوچھا تھا اگر اسی فارمولے کو ریورس کر دیا جائے تو حارث اور قیصر کے درمیان ڈیبیٹ میں عباس حیدر کی موجودگی نہیں بلکہ موڈریشن میں حارث نے "پیلے جاتے" ہیں جیسے بازارو اور فحش لفظ کا استعمال کر دیا تھا کیا قیصر صاحب اب یہ کہنا شروع کر دیں کے عباس صاحب کو جواب دینا پڑے گا؟؟ انکی اپنی ذات پر بات آ گیٔ تو پھر وکٹم کارڈ کھیل رہیں ہیں ، میری جان یہ سوشل میڈیا ہے یہاں شیشے سا دل رکھ کر نہ نکلا کرو جو معیار اپنے لئے پسند کرو وہی معیار دوسروں کے لئے پسند کرو یہ ہوتی ہے عدل پر مبنی اصولی بات ورنہ دو ویڈیو بنا کر بھی عباس نے کویٔ ٹھوس بات تو کی نہیں
@@kamaal_Saif ye mujhe be pata hai Abbas is debate ko thk handle Nahi kr paiya q k wo kabi is thara ki stream Nahi krta pr mujhe Abbas ki bat ma zada sense lagi app is ne itafaq na kray koi bat Nahi mein app ki Rai ki izat krta ho
@@maharalihassan8111 جی میں مشکور ممنوں ہوں بس میں یہ عرض کر رہا تھا کہ عباس بھائی نے تھوڑا تحمل سے کام لیا ہوتا اور اس مسلے کو صحیح وقت پر رکھا ہوتا تو بہتر تھا
Allah apko jaza e khair ataa kare . Farigh Sultan ke pass koi morality nahi hai, iske hisab se society me jo bhi aam hojaye wo moral ho jayega(khud isne dibate me kaha hai). Kal ke din incest aur pata nahi kya kya aam hojaye to wo morally correct ho jayega iske pass. Khud apni pole khol ke Atheism ki asliyat bata di zamane ko.
If something is Absolute, why does it need a FINAL Word or Ruling ???? If it is Absolute, it should be the ONLY word, and throughout. If things are "progressively" corrected with time, they are not based on something Absolute. Absolute means Absolute....not progressive. Were you arguing for your position or his ? Just attaching a label of "Absolute" doesn't make it so.....your mental gymnastics are clear proof of this. Here's your position in simple terms "This (xyz) practise is relatively bad.....still relatively bad....wait, still relatively bad...almost there, but still relatively bad......ok, now Absolutely Bad (Final Ruling) !! But wait, Absolute doesn't mean under NO circumstances....you have to consider the context....like killing for blasphemy, or "pretend" beating (very gently with a handkerchief) to express EXTREME displeasure at spousal infidelity". Makes perfect sense....NOT!
That is a whole lot of rubbish. Fot us to say something is bad we already must know what is good.If morality is just a subjective taste of people _ You like chocolate and i like vanilla _ ,then you have your truth and i have my truth. Harris snailtan said there are no absolutes ( Including this statement) ! For us to call something curvaceous we already must have an idea of a straight line!! With regards to circumstances blah blah blah or the vomit of sam harris about consequentialism that is too ridiculous. The belief about reality doesnt change the reality.you can utter ridiculous nonsense to look good but it doesnt change the fact that you are a tailless devolved monkey that too a devolved one who is _ ontologically _ no different from a pig or a cockroach.
If Incest is Not Absolutely Wrong Morally .Can you give me 1 or 2 Scenario from your "Prograssive" mind in which Incest can be considered Morally Right?
@@IslamistLeads Lol!! a person who believes that he is born out of Incest relation of Adam and Eve is calling incest "Absolutely wrong" 😂😂😂😂. Cousin marriage is rampant in islamic world which is generally seen very bad in Non muslim world. To bhai tu to incest pe kuchh na hi keh to achha hai 😂😂
@@faisal5544 Or Adam and Eve and their Kids having sex with each other or Cousin marriages among Muslims. If these things are allowed in Islam then Incest is not absolutely wrong even in Islam. So first talk about that.
Sir ye Amir Haq Sahb ki or Abbas Haider k msly jo Create ho Rhy Use Solve kreN plzzz Yha hum Amir bhai ki revew sun k abbas ko bura jan rhy or abbass ki revew se amir bhai ko bura kehry . Alg hi level ki Confused ho rhy . isy khtm krwaen plzzz
As a Muslim, I lam not satisfied by your arguments. I wish HS debate should be with other true Muslim scholar. I realized that you have insufficient argument and it's your fault not in Islam at all
i observed his body language in that debate.. his mental health is not good its my suggestion to check out best of the best doctor in his area and get further treatment..
Dua to Fix all your family issues: رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ اَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيّٰتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وََّاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا اے ہمارے رب !تو ہمیں ہماری بیویوں اور اولادوں سے آنکھوں کی ٹھنڈک عطا فرما اور ہمیں پرہیزگا روں کا امام بنا۔ Our Lord! Grant us from among our wives and offspring, comfort to our eyes and make us an example for the righteousness. (Al-Furqan:74)
اعسلام اعلیکم قیسر بھائی آپ نے ڈبیٹ میں کہاکہ آدم علہ سلام کی اولادوں سے انسانیت کی شروعات نہیں ہوئی ۔۔۔ ہم بیشیتے مسلمان یہی سمجھتے ہیں کہ آدم علہ ص سے انسانیت کی شروعات ہوئی اب آپ کا کیا نظریہ ہے انسانیت کی شروعات کیسے ہوئی .?????
Did he actually say that ? I think he said we can't say anything specific with full confidence about the unseen and unknown which hasn't been mentioned in the primary sources(quran and sunnat). Their are opinions, but he wanted Harris to show it from primary sources.
@@Siyaramji823 चवन्नी जी रो कौन रहा है जाकर पता कर लो 😂😂 वैसे तुम्हारा दूध भात इस लिए के ये सब समझने के लिए भेजा चाहिए और उस फ्लोर में तो गोबर है इस लिए मुन्ने टेंशन कोई नई लेनी तू बस हारिस की चूसता रह और इसी पर खुश रह
Raja saab pooray video mai apni awam ko bus yehi bata rahe hai k jo kuch bhi islamic books mai likha ha asal main us ka matlab wo nahi hai jo likha howa ha 🤦🏻♂️ Or wajdi saab ne jo sawal poochay thy wo ye sahib gool hi ker gye 😂 Kitna manafiq aadmi ha ye raja
@@billybro1403 wajdi saab ne rajay ko specifically pocha tha k choti bachi k haiz wali ayat ki tashreeh kare kuon k jo tashreeh raja Debate mai de raha tha wo ijma k bilkul ult thi
The response toward moderator was very disappointing. The moderator did well and Emaan channel and that guy Haq comments were outrageous toward moderator and you didn’t stop that guy Haq
Hahah Haris multiple times said morality is adapted by society after experiences. Qaiser sahab you are such a disgrace to muslims.. plus aap ne still haiz per qurani ayat ki tafseer per har aalim ko rad krdya. Ab jab saheeh hadeeso per baat krengy tau us per kahegy.." nahi ji yeh tau ye ye tau wo" pehlay hadees aur quran per aik moral ground khud tau set kren .. Allah hum sab ko hidayat de ameen
There are number of loopholes and drawbacks in every religion so like as islam has also some default in theories and practices interpreted by well known sharia alims it is difficult to argue with an atheist since he may show you all hidden secrets of that time which were common practice 14years ago but now today's ethical society this consider as immoral and unethical for humanity like concept of slavery in islam
Many loopholes😅? I think you don't know the basics, Slavery was practised in pre islamic period in Arabs which was slowly eliminated, that's why there is no concept slavery in Islam now.
You should have left the debate when he was insulting the Prophet(S.A.W) and Islam. But you did not even ahow any concern. You were more concerned about the bloody format of the debate than invalidating his points. You're a disappointment.
Os ko expose krna hein os na disrespect kiya hein wo oun ko prophet he nai manta wo Abu jhail hein is doar ka agar wo baat na krty hein tu wo mou par park k khata muslman bag Gayá hum geet Gayá
Aik momin itna hi dishonest hota hay jitna yeh banda hay. Bhai sb ap nay sari islamic scholarship, hadeeths or even quran bhi truck kay neechay phaink dya.
@@chemistrynine7256 Mufti Yasir Wajidi aik honest or respectable person hay is jahil ko tarah hr hadeeth or ayat ko negate nhin krta. Is jahil ko chahye pehlay proper ilm lay or phir debate mein aye.
@@chemistrynine7256 Secondly I studied from Makkah University and participated in tajweed competitions. Dont claim what you dont know. Seems you are following your master Jahil Raja.
Jazakallah hu khairan Qaiser bhai...
I was already sure that he will build his arguments on lies and misrepresentations...
To embarrass himself.
To be honest, embarrassment is itself embarrassed after such shameful acts by these so called intellectuals...
Keep up the good work.
May Allah S.W.T guide those who are willing to seek truth and accept the reality.
Shaykh Ahmad Deedat once said:
"Islam will always win, with or without you. But you will always lose without Islam."
I listened all debate and your arguments were concrete and valid with proper logic..
Thanks for protecting my belief
With proper logic… ?? you don’t have even head… let alone the brain… 😂😂
True
You destroyed his career Brother
Tha hi nahi uska😂
Kharish sultan has no career. Isi liye tou islam sey paisy kamata hai 😅
Bro literally called a Sahih Hadith Zaeef because he couldn't defend this pathetic religion of yours
You should look at his face....Allah has destroyed him here and will destroy him hereafter
Arey Qaiser se 3 times jyada subscribers hai uske. 😂
Well done Qaiser sab amazing work and research. These arguments left unanswered can lead to disaster
Harris be like : There is nothing such as absolute moral or immoral
Also Harris : I am here to debate that Islam is immoral
Did you intentionally omit the word 'absolutely' in your second sentence? He isn't saying that Islam is absolutely immoral; rather, he's saying Islam is immoral. There's a distinction. Also just a side note, I'm Muslim
@@Zipp786**1 month later**
Read his comment again... CAREFULLY this time.
JazakAllah Qaiser Bhai .
You are a great warrior ❤
ASSLAM ALYKUM BROTHER QAISER AHMED RAJA,MAY ALLAH ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY AND THE WHOLE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE WORKING TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL AND RESPONDING TO SUCH CRITICISM (and lies told about Islam) AND MAKING PEOPLE REALISE THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM!!!
AMEEN SUMAMEEN
JAZAK ALLAH KHAIR!!!!!
2:53 Qaiser bhai, you are wrong. there is no such thing as absolute morality. E.g., Incest is haram but Children of Adam married own sisters and brothers. Drinking Alcohol is haraam now, but before this forbiddance, Sahaba would drink alcohol. Absolute means for all times and for all circumstances. which is never the case in reality. Bhai mere, even Salat and Saum (roza) have to be adjusted in Norway and northern hemisphere countries, where you need to pray and end fast based on sun rise and sunset. So again there is no absolute morality.
Please define and answer Absolute morality related to someone who is practicing .....If someone is lying it doesn't mean that truth is not an absolute morality ...lack of knowledge....🤔🤔🤔 ....then please give any solid reference from Quran or Sahih hadees that brother and sister married ,again lack of knowledge.....SUGGESTION :(WATCH AWAZ E HAQ OLD CHANNEL VIDEO RELATED TO HOW SOMEONE BECOME ATHIEST PART 1) Aqaal ka istamaal karo lekin zara ghor kr kay ....I don't know fake I'd hai apki ya orignal hai ....
@@waqas077 If adam and eve didn't have sex so can you tell how lineage of adam and eve went forward if there is no incest ?Were babies downloaded in mobile apps ??
@ufaqishtiaq43
Can you give me an example of what you consider as Absolute morality Which disbelievers Can't practice as disbelievers!
What's the role of M identity?
@Asif islamically absolute ka matlab hai jo Allah ne batadya. To agar pehlay shariat ke kuch ahkamaat different thy abhi ki shariat se, to woh shariyat bhi Allah hi ne nazil kari thi.
Objectivity ka criteria Allah hai Muslims ke liye.
Is liye ye koi argument nahi hai ke bilfarz agar koi cheez pehlay sahi thi to ab bhi sahi honi chahye.
Aur Ye bhi koi argument nahi hai ke agar pehlay aur ab ke nazal hui huwi shariyat different hai to iska matlab morals objective ya absolute nahi. Iska aap sirf ye matlab nikal saktay hain ke Allah ne shariat ko change Kara hai. Morals Abhi bhi objective hain kyunke morals define karnay wala batanay wala Allah hai.
Aap 'absolute' ko 'fixed" se confuse kar rahay hain.
Absolute morality ka matlab yeh hai ke jo Allah ne kah diya wo absolute hai wo sahi hai no matter something jo kah diya is daur ke liye wo absolute hai usmai koi shak nhi
Maslan ami hai wo abhi apko kehti bike chalana ek umar mai sahi nhi 6 saal ki umar mai magar jab wo 18 saal ki umar mai pohonchta ya late ten's mai amma allow krten to kiya yeh absolutely correct nhi tha unka decision?? The truth is from the day one it was absolutely correct kyuke ammi ne apke faide ke liye hi achi niyyat se soocha tha absolutely ka matlab 100% guarantee he ke wo sahi hai
Yahi kaam Allah ne agr allow ki thi certain cheezen pehle aur ab disallow krden to wo fixed to nhi magar absolute hain 100% yaqeeni baat hai ke yehi ab mauyar hai yehi standard hai yahi magar Harris Sultan said ke absolute hai hi nhi guarantee nhi de skta ke yeh ghalat hai ya sahi.... Moreover he also said agr society normalize krleti kisi cheez ko to wo sahi ban jata yani ke society can itself determine morals and change....
Qaiser sb ap ne bohot badnamo krwai, apni b aur Islam ki b. Jb apka ilmi level itna tha e ni, to kion bethay Haris k samny... Behtar tha k ap na krty debate. Pata ni kia smjha wa apny khud ko
Harris ko aqalamand samjhna illiteracy ki nishaani hai. Learn some basics about Objective and subjective morality. Learn what implications and limitations each type has.
Phir aapko samajh ayega ke Harris just wasted time in that debate.
For your ease, I'll mention 2 things:
1, At the very beginning Harris conceded that there is no absolute/objective morality for atheist. He conceded that there is no standard moral principles. He lost the debate at this point, because he was supposed to prove that atheistic morality cab be derived from first principles. He didn't even try.
2, Secondly, he said that atheist have no absolute morality, he believes in subjective morality, and there's no absolute universal morality. For your ease, it means that each subject (humans in this context) can have their own morality. So how can he claim that Islam is right or wrong? How can he claim *Anything* is right or wrong? Because there's no absolute standard according to him right? Everyone can have their own standards right? The stupidity is that he himself says that there is no right or wrong and at the same time claims right or wrong about Islam all the time. By his undefined standards and subjective morality he can't even make any claims. Let alone making criticism about Islam.
This is so basic, I can't believe you and others, especially Hindus can't see this. Hindus don't even get that if they still support Harris, logically they are admitting defeat because Hinduism is antithetical to atheism.
Anyways, these are just basics
Ilmi kitabi itnay girangay Kabi Socha b Nahi ta....
Bughaze Qaiser ma Atheist ko support kregay... Ye tho Kabi Socha b Nahi ta
اللہ تعالی نے شیطان کا غرور دیکھ کر اس کو اس کے حال پر چھوڑ دیا
ورنہ ایک طرف اللہ تعالی کی ذات تھی اور دوسری طرف بہت زیادہ علم رکھنے والا ملائک
مگر اللہ تعالی نے اس کے ساتھ علمی گفتگو یا زیادتی نہیں کی اور اس کو اس کے حال پر چھوڑ دیا
اسی طرح کہا گیا ہے کہ جاہل کے ساتھ مناظرہ نہ کرو کیونکہ جاہل کوئی بات سمجھنے کے لئے تیار نہیں ہوتا ہے
اسلام کو کسی چیز سے بدنامی نہیں ہوتی جو بھی اسے بدنام کرنا چاہئے ہے وہ خود ہی بدنام ہوتا ہے
jis tarah engineer jahil is tarah iss k muqalid jahil, jis tarah haris nei mana k atheism ki koi morality nahi, iss trah tera bhi koi viewpoint nahi hai
Regarding the issue of marriage with a minor and the waiting periods (iddah/iddat) of different types of divorced women
The following is written solely for academic purpose.
There are two Ayats or Verses under discussion. The first one is from sūrah al-Ahzāb.
O you who believe, when you marry believing women and then divorce them before you have marital relations, then you have no ‘iddah upon them… (Qur’an 33:49)
The second āyah under discussion is from sūrah al-Talāq.
And those of your women who have passed the age of monthly courses and those who have no courses, if you have doubts, their ‘iddah is three months… (Qur’an 65:4)
The āyat in al-Ahzāb is stating that if a couple has not engaged in marital relations, then the woman does not have to observe an ‘iddah in case of a divorce. This is regardless of the age of the wife. On the other hand, the āyat in al-Talāq is discussing the ‘iddah of a woman in the case where the couple had engaged in marital relations. A prepubescent girl, with whom a marriage is not normally consummated, falls within the ruling mentioned in al-Ahzab.
Another scenario is that at times, even though a girl reaches the age of maturity, she still does not menstruate due to certain medical conditions. However, because of her having reached maturity, she and her husband may have consummated the marriage. In the case of a divorce and the absence of menstruation in this scenario, she will observe an ‘iddah equivalent to three lunar months. This is the ruling mentioned in al-Talaq. Hence, there is no contradiction in rulings, as they discuss different scenarios.
The fact that it is permissible to marry a minor girl does not imply that it is permissible to have intercourse with her, rather the husband should not have intercourse with her until she becomes able for that. It is permitted to contract marriage with a young girl. As for consummating the marriage, this does not happen until she is physically able for it. Thus the matter becomes quite clear.
Also important to note is that a marriage contract for a minor in shariah law is allowed only if the following conditions are met.
1. Her father marries her off. It is not permitted for anyone, other than the father to marry her off.
2. The father must be mentally sane and possess integrity.
3. There must be a benefit or welfare for the young lady in the marriage.
will you be comfortable marrying your minor sister/daughter?
@@bobobobo3142 Quite possible but not necessary. Depends on the character of the person, circumstances, accommodation, housing, well being, education and various factors that are taken into consideration.
@@NaasihunAmeen No one in their sane mind will do it. It is actually illegal in Pakistan as well as Saudi Arabia.
Being a Muslim I can not justify two things, one slavery, and concubines' issue. I didn't know Prophet Muhammad PBUH had a concubine named Maria Qibtiya and she even gave birth to his son Ibrahim. She was gifted to him. Prophet never banned slavery in his life, so it kept being practiced in Arabs until the 1960s.
Secondly this child marriage thing. No one in their right mind can marry a 4-5 old
@@NaasihunAmeen i will be glad if someone like you bring forward your 5 or 6 year old daughter and i can convince any of your great scholars like mufti taqi usmani etc (as they hold all the great values you are looking for) to marry your daughter ... this will do 2 great things ... 1 - it will revive the sunnah of the prophet ... 2 - it will really show that you really believe it is good and are not being a hypocrite
let me know when you are ready to marry your daughter and i will start speaking with ulemas to convince them to marry her ... please respond what you actually feel instead of just winning the point
@@bobobobo3142 Slavery was of two types. Preexisting slavery before Islamic law. The beating of a slave results in freedom and emancipation in Islam by the way. Freeing of slaves is also an atonement so people think multiple times before committing a sin or unlawful act. Freedom of slaves is a recommended and praiseworthy act in Islam.
Second type of slavery was enslavement of people who were at war and tried to annihilate Muslims or could pose a threat to them in the future. It's also not an obligation to enslave people who are defeated in war. They can be set free with or without ransom. A concubine only has relations with either her owner or her husband not multiple men. A slave woman who gives birth to her owner's child becomes free after the death of her owner. Slaves can even buy their freedom through a contract
Besides the rules mentioned above enslaving someone is not allowed. Also read about the Mamluks.
Child marriage contract is one thing and sexual relations is another. For intercourse, the person's health and fitness are to be considered.
لاسٹ میں جب سوال جواب ہوئے تو "حارث سلطان " کا رویہ ایک باولے کتے جیسا تھا مگر آپ جس طرح تحمل سے جواب دے رہے تھے دل خوش ہوگیا ❤
Carry on Qaisar Bhai
Is it possible that Emaan Union can put a compilation against all the Hadith that Harris has shared? He shares a link under most of his videos about the collection of Hadith that he has gone through.
Can Emaan Union kindly compile a list of them and give proper explanation for each of the "Sahih Hadiths" only? Whether they're right or wrong and the context behind them. It'll be a huge benefit for the entire Muslim Ummah.
I'm not talking about making videos for each of them. Just a simple Excel/Sheets Table with Hadith no in 1 column and it's explanation or context in the next column.
Thank you
No they can't
Because their criteria for rejecting a hadith is if it embarrasses them, they reject it
@@human_hope
What? You know them personally?
@@123arskas this happens way too often. I don't need to know them personally. Actions speak for themselves.
@@human_hope
I'm pretty sure if they try they can do it. The list is massive and it may require months or a year or more. Hope they work together on it.
I appreciate that Harris took the time and effort to compile the list. Rest is up to the Islamic scholars to show their effort too.
@@123arskas if they ever do it, which I swear they will not because they can't - and if you remember reply to this comment when they do it. I'd love to see
The issue HS raised on menses and its relation with marriage.... I want to clarify it
According to science.... Uterus is a child bearing organ ( as heart defiend as pumping organ)and menstration occurs if failure of fertilization and implantation takes place.
According to science the Normal age of menstration is 8 years
Purpose of marriage in islam is childern.
And according to sceince pupose of menses is childern
Science defines normal age of menses is 8 years for girls while islam defines purpose of menses 1400 years ago through Hazrat Ayesha R.A. this should be considered as mujza of islam but people are ignorant
Regarding precocious puberty, it means menses occurs before 8 years but in science it is called pathology means abnormal menses due to any ovarian tumor or any other etiology...
Science defines what is normal and what is abnormal menses and defines is cutoff age 8 years
Islam defines it 1400 years ago
Beautifully explained 👏.
Qaisar Ahmad Raza Sir, Harish Sultan se koi debate Hui hi nahi wo to saf bola atheist morality aisi koi chij hoti nahi to debate finished aur aap jit Gaye ❤❤ baki time be hurmati ho Rahi thi jiske liye apko dusri Debate rakhni thi🔥🔥
MASHALLAH well said brother
Qaiser Sahab bara e meherbani aapnay jo bhi wazahatain di hain uskay references bhi provide karain...
Sirf aik slide aapnay is poori video main dikhai uskay neechay bhi reference nhi likha....
MAASHA ALLAAH. PROUD OF UMMAH BROTHER RAJA QAISAR. LOTS OF DUAA WITH RESPECT FROM YOUR INDIAN MUSLIM BROTHER.
The unjustified attack on the moderator and the inability to directly address the questions raised by other scholars of Islam including Mufti Al Wajidi are all the kinds of behavior you expect from a bitter camp that felt they lost a debate.....and thanks to his performance, QR has sowed the seeds of questioning and disbelief even among his own followers or fair minded youth. With all due respect, your side deserves better representation.
Very well put. Qaiser Raja was obviously unprepared because he frequently disagreed with classical scholars without providing an adequate justification and avoided answering the actual questions posed by HS.
@@manitrim because debate was on atheism. And HS was talking about other issues
Haris admitted that no atheists morality. This statement is not even accepted by all atheist. After saying no atheists morality, Haris lost 50% of the debate. Hadis was daeef then You(HR) have to prove sahih.
Moderator was totally shameful person.,
Brother problem is that we can't make blind people see
So aap khush hote rahiye
Aur apni morality ko talash kijiye
Sorry wo to exist hi nahi karti 😂😂😂
Haris k pass debate me siwaye zaeef riwayat or blasphemy karne k kuch nahi tha. Zabardast qaiser sahab.
As a Muslim I'm very disappointed from some Muslims in the comment section who because of their ignorance on how to do a FAIR debate are bashing br Qaisar and they are thinking that "Islam ki badnami ho gai hai". Wallahi if you really think that then you are just being ignorant. You can CLEARLY SEE from the beginning of the debate when H.Puss (Nick name of Harris sultan by Muhammad Hijab and we all call him like that in the UK) started the debate. Muslims, if you don't have knowledge then go do your homework and learn your Deen! May Allah guide us all!
Well DOne Sir. Huge respect.
Harris Sultan " Ki Rozi Roti
" ISLAM " Hai 😊
Islam sikhayen. Jugglery of words mein logon ko bewakoof na bnaien. Ap k zati understanding or interpretation koi ni dekhna chahta. Evidence k sath short bat krain. If you think that listeners are fool then you are badly mistaken. The truth is that you have no evidence to justify your position. Hawai fire Mar k logon ko convince krny wala doar guzr gya a. Abbas haider aik sharif insaan ki peeth peechay usay galiyan Dena, ye ha defensive position ap ki? Or sharif ul nafas insaan ko galiyan dety way sun k daant nikalna was a way of defending your position for you? Sharam tum ko magar zara ni ati. Islam ko defend kr rahay ho ya Islam k peechay khud ko hide kr rhy ho????
I don't like atheists but this time they successful is dismantling Qaiser Raza As a muslim I can't agreed upon the view's of Qaiser Raza .
Most awaited video of this week
Debate me to aapki matti paleet hui hi.... Magar Har cheez ki tarah Girne ki bhi ek hadd hoti hai, jise aap paar kar chuke ho... jo kuch aap ne Abbas Haider bhai ke sath kiya
To aapne bachaya q nhi aapke nam ki hazarat aysha ne adha deen ham tak pahucha ya hai or aap ne kya islam ke liye
Jo hadith ap k views k opposite jaye wo daheef ha, aur jo support kary o teek,, apko daheef nhi kehna cheye tha sir,, ap defend karthy
Kahna kya chahte ho daif hadees ko bhi saheeh maan len😂😂
Daheef hadis bolty kis ko hy ya pata hy ap ko phly is ka matlab samjo
Asalam u alaikum warahmatullah Qaisar Ahmad Raja Sahab....
I was eagerly waiting for this video.May Allah protect you from every evil 🤲🤲🤲🤲
Abbas Haider per jo comments apki traf se kiye gye thy live stream per, uske baad apki videos dekhne ko filhaal dil nahi krta, balke Unsub krne ko dil krta hy. Eman union ne bri Be Emani ka muzahira kiya hy. Bri strong apology ki zrorat hy Ap sab ki traf se. Ek adhi post se kam nahi chal sakta.
Qaiser bhai has apologized. Lekin inhone comment nahi kiye thay, Amir bhai ne kiye thay, albata inko thora sa defend karlena chahye tha, par kher
حد ہے جہالت کی جو بات عامر حق نے کہی اسکا حساب اور اسکی صفائی قیصر صاحب سے مانگنا جہالت ہے اگر آپ کا فارمولا ایسا ہی ہے تو ڈیبیٹ کے دوران حارث ملعون نے لفظ " پیل دیا" استعمال کیا کیا اسکی صفائی عباس حیدر سے مانگی جائے گی ؟
@@kamaal_Saif خاموشی تائید ہوتی ہے
قیصر صاحب خاموش تھے، یہ بات انہوں نے قبول بھی کی ھے
آپ عباس حیدر کا ری ایکشن ویڈیو دیکھ لیں
@@afnan_a او جی سرکار پھر اسی فارمولے کو عباس حیدر صاحب پر فٹ کر لیں ، حارث ، کے پیل دیا جیسے اکیڈمک لفظ پر عباس صاحب کی خاموشی تایید مان لیتا ہوں 😂ٹھک ہو گیا بھائی کیوں عباس صاحب پر ظلم کر رہے ہو اک تو انہوں نے پہلے ہی غلط بٹن دبا دی اوپر سے آپ ایسے کمنٹ کر رہے ہو یار میں نے عباس کی دونوں ویڈیوز سنیں حارث اور قیصر صاحب کی پوری ڈیبیٹ دیکھی ہویٔ ہے
Boht boht shukria qaiser bhai Allah aap ko salamat rakhay
اشكرك يا اخي جزاك الله ❤
Mufti yasir ki request ka kia howa sir
He doesn’t have any answers 😂🎉
Salute to you sir
Qesar Bhai apki waja sy mery mind sy atheist or communist liberals etc ko Jo concept tha wo khatam hogya he or islam ka ek acha vision create hogya he bhut bhut shukriya apka ❤😊
Mubarak hoo ap ko new life
Aisa pagal insan ko tum itni ijjat de rahe harish ne aisa dhoya isko ki ye aay Bay karne laga
Harish ne hadishe code ki magar ye Bhagata raha
@@SatishKumar-mg4gs Haris firstly surrendered by saying there is no atheists morality. Which hadeea you talking about? Tell me.
@@SatishKumar-mg4gs harris sirf tatti ugalta hai or tatti khata hai
@@SatishKumar-mg4gs zaeef hadeesy code ki ab ap kahogy zaeef kia hota hy
MashaAllah Zabardast Qaiser Ahmed Raja Sahab ❤❤
@Liabrarianhalala orat ki marzi hai chye to kre or chye to na kre
Pehley SE decide Kiya ho to lanat ha orat or mard dono pr
@Durbeen دوربین दूरबीन دیں اسلام میں کوئی جبر نہیں،
نہ ہی بےحیایی
اگر میاں بیوی کے درمیان پھر سے ریلیشن
کے لے
@Durbeen دوربین दूरबीन غلط کی سزا بھی ہوتی ہے
@Liabrariankya aapko pta hai ki aap islam ke baare mein bilkul jahil ho
Halala Islam me nhi ulma e soo ki ijad hai
He is sooooo deceptive!!!!
And he knows that !!!!
I saw the whole debate. Qaiser, you did awesome debate. It was so much one-sided. Harris was just like any other looser who, when he didn't have any logic or point, started a useless attack. And the way you counter attack him, it was brilliant and most intellectual.
قیصر بھائی، حضرت آئشہ (رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنھا) کی عمر کے بارے میں جو ملحدین اعتراض کرتے ہیں اس پر آپکا کیا موقف ہے, براے مہربانی اس پر بھی ویڈیو ضرور بنائیے۔
Ulma e karam ne hazrat Ayesha ki age calculate ki ha with respect to her elder sister hazrat asma bint e abu bakar is k ilawa aik or Akali daleel b ha
K apni aulad k hoty Hoye Jo k khud chotay bachy thy to Kya Rasool Allah ghar or bachy sambhalne k Liye aik or chota bacha to nahi Lana tha...
Is Liye hazrat Ayesha ki age according to calculations 29 years banti thi
@@hammadurrehman8189 ulama ny calculate nhe ki ha... Badtareen yalghar ky natijay main modern musalmanu ny apni kitabain truck ky nechy phenk kr 6 years of age ka inkar kiya ha😂😂😂....
@@MohammadAli-fp9ddhow do you say that 😢
I think you are another ignorant
@@hammadurrehman8189 Subhan Allah being a muslim ap hud k itni bari hadees ka fahm kamoz bana rhy k ulma ny count ki. Hosh k nakhun ly sir Seerah parhain saboot apko hud mil jay ga.
@@hammadurrehman8189 please improve your research unauthentic bat na krain. Is py ijmah hai
Sir share links to ahadiths, scholars and references you are quoting in the review.
haris tattti
Waqat qayamat tuk hai. Ub na ho ga aap se.
@@usmanayoube harris or ghalib tattian ugalteee hein or naalaaiq tareen loog hein
@@hassangilani772 Raja bhai ki tarah aap ne bhi sirf galiaan hi nikali. Raja bhai ki tarah aap ka intellect bhi duniya ke samne aagaya. Raja bhai Ka Baj gaya Baja.
@@usmanayoube usman bhai ap ke kitne ghatia judgement hai usman bhai you are very wrong raja ne to koi ghaliaan nahi nikaleeee haan me ne ghalliaan nikaleee hein ap loggon ki buhat chootii soch hai bhai ye ghalib or haris ghatia tareen log hein ye jis tarah ek bande ki muqadas hasteeeon ko zaleel kartee hein tu kya me in ko dua dooon ye khal utare jane ke qabal hein in ki khaal utarne chayeee ap ki sooch be buhat ghalat hai is haris haramzade se sirf jhail mutassir hotee hein ye zaleel tareen shaksh hai ap ke jhail soooch dunya ke samne a gaye or haris ko suna jhail bano
Well done Qaisar Ahmed Raja bhai
ما شاء الله
MashAllah
Qaiser Ahmed Raja bhai.
Love from Bangladesh.
🔍 Allah guide our hearts & soften these
Anas reported that a person was charged with fornication with the slavegirl of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to 'Ali:
Go and strike his neck. 'Ali came to him and he found him in a well making his body cool. 'Ali said to him: Come out, and as he took hold of his hand and brought him out, he found that his sexual organ had been cut. Hadrat 'Ali refrained from striking his neck. He came to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) and said: Allah's Messenger, he has not even the sexual organ with him.
حَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَفَّانُ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ، أَخْبَرَنَا ثَابِتٌ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، كَانَ يُتَّهَمُ بِأُمِّ وَلَدِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم لِعَلِيٍّ " اذْهَبْ فَاضْرِبْ عُنُقَهُ " . فَأَتَاهُ عَلِيٌّ فَإِذَا هُوَ فِي رَكِيٍّ يَتَبَرَّدُ فِيهَا فَقَالَ لَهُ عَلِيٌّ اخْرُجْ . فَنَاوَلَهُ يَدَهُ فَأَخْرَجَهُ فَإِذَا هُوَ مَجْبُوبٌ لَيْسَ لَهُ ذَكَرٌ فَكَفَّ عَلِيٌّ عَنْهُ ثُمَّ أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّهُ لَمَجْبُوبٌ مَا لَهُ ذَكَرٌ
how do you charge someone without bringing him infront of jury and then order verdict in his/her absence without listening to his side of story? Then send someone to strike his neck?
@@bobobobo3142 The statement was "IF YOU FIND HIM BY HER"
"إن وجدته عندها"
Zabardast Qaiser Bhai 👍🏻💯
Well done sir ❤❤❤
Kaisar Saab mujhe Jo hadees sabse zyada pareshan kar Rahi hai vo ye hai
Hamare nabi ne ek aurat ko kaha ke usy apna doodh pilao to vo tumhara mehram ho Jayega to aurat ne kaha ke vo bada hai Mai kaise to nabi pak ne ka Mai Janta hu aur hansne Lage
Please wajahat kare ye mere Liye bahot zaruri hai
Kyu ke hamare nabi ikhlaq me Aala muqam rakhte hai to
Ye apki hadees kaise ho sakti hai
Ap samajh gaye Mai kis hadees ki bat kar Raha hu
Apne us hadees ki wajahat is video me v nahi Kiya halanke ye bahot zaruri hai hamare Liye
Vo hamare nabi k shaan me bahot bada gushtakhi Karke Chala gya aur Apne Kuch nahi kaha us hadees ke bare me
आप डिबेट जीत चुके हैं सर आप अपना हक अदा कर रहे हैं अल्लाह आपको अपने अमान मैं रखें
Aqal nikaal ke dekhi thi kya debate 😂
Kya bakwas hai… debate dekhi bhi hai ya bas aise hi sab jagah copy paste maar raha hai.. 😂😂
@@agnosticatheist1620 inpe aqal hoti hai kya ?
@@MaverickManish..han dekh chuka hun harish c...d gya 😢😢
Just a historic fact: King Richard II married Isabella of Valois who was 6 years old and Margaret Beaufort, mother of Henry VII, was married at the age of 12. This is just being mentioned as a fact and piece of info.
Wo Allah ke nabi h kya
@@sandeepkumaragnostic Allah k nabi bhi society ka ek hissa hote hain.
Iske elawa nabi hamesha allah k hukm k tabe hote hain, wo apni marzi se kuch bhi nhi karte.
Quran me sab mentioned hai jisko tum to padhte nhi aur moonh uthakar intervene karne chale aate ho.
Zara proper knowledge lo phir bhonka karo.
Tou king richard ko hum nabi maantay hain yaa poojtay hain yaa usko acha insan samjhtay hain ..but tum log aisa krnay walay ko mantay ho
@@qasmibook8710 ham kyu pade ek reason de. Jab padne wale bachhio se sadi karte h. Or example criminals ke dete h
@@sandeepkumaragnostic wo to krishna ji bhi karte the.
Aur nhi padhna hai to bhonkna band karo.
Itni jaldi apni aukat par kiyun ajate ho tumlog ?
Assalamu Alaikum qaiser bhai💚
MAY ALLAH(SWT) bless you🤲
Walekum asslam
Qaiser sab ap ne is bad tameez bad akhlaq aur mutakabir insan k ghuror aur takabur ko khak main mila diya hai.
Ap aur yasir sab is waqt k isamic hero aur mujahid hai allah tala ap dono ko islam ko defend karne ki tawfeq de.
This video is very helpful to take dission on the debate
Qaiser sahb you rejected translation of taki usmani, modudi, etc. And again you didn't cleared your point of view on this
Morality pa debate thi bhai Kam umer shadi pa ni
Moral absolutism me abhi bhi masla arha hy. Chori krna absolutely galat nahi there is expection to the rule, jhoot bolna absolutely na haram hy na jurum hy there are exeption to that, qatal krna absolutely galat nahi yani murder krna there are expection to that (aik muslim agr darul harb me jaaky kisi ko qatal krta hy to usper qisaas nahi chahy chori krny ki he niyat se gya ho), do behno me shadi krna bhi absolutely galat nahi rha moosvi shariat me agr christians or jews follow kren to aj bhi jaiz hy per Allah ny shariat mohammadi utaar kr ussy haram qraar diya, even kufur k sentences bolna bhi absolutely galat nahi expections hen usky liye, haram khana ya khilana bhi absolutely galat nahi usky liye bhi expection hy. To ap kesy kehty hen ki Absolute Morality exist krti hy (objective morality to samjh aati hy per absolute morality ka wajood he maaloom nahi hota)
Objective hi matlab hai. Morality ke discussions me objective aur subjective hi ki baat hoti hai.
@@hamzamohiuddin973 tou jb Harris ne bola k Absolutely kuch ghalat ya theek nai hota, tou tb baghlein bajaney ki bjaye mtlb smjh lete tou kya jata?? 😂😂😂
@@Anonymousperson_123 bhai context se clear tha. Objective aur subjective ki hi debate thi jo ke Harris ne start me hi haar maanli ke there is no universal morality. He was supposed to prove why his atheistic morality is objective and universal. Because if it is not objective or universal, then logically He can't pass any judgements.
He didn't provide any justification or foundational principles of his morality (which was the topic of the debate). On the other hand he conceded that every society has their own subjective morals, and at the same time he was making moral claims/criticism about Islam. What's so hard to understand dude. No universal standard means no judginging criteria, which means no moral claims. Got it?
Raja ke questions aur examples se bhi clear tha. Are u forgetting that raja kept on elaborating, questioning, and pushing Harris to justify that how, on what basis can he say something is right or wrong if there's no fixed standard for him.
When raja used the word absolute, he clarified through his questions that he means in the current time frame, meaning after the final revealation has been fully revealed.
Aur bhai ye basics hain. Harris has been doing this for years Now. He should know this.
@@hamzamohiuddin973 absolute mein time frame kese aa jata? It’s better to not debate with an Atheist if you can’t answer harsh questions. But the way Raja just disowned all scholarly work just because he felt trapped is beyond painful to watch.
I respect religious preachers like Engineer Ali Mirza and other scholars who acknowledge that answering the questions of Atheists while staying with in the boundaries of our religion gets impossible at some point. And that’s exactly what Raja sahab did. He threw everything out of the window just to satisfy his own ego
@@Anonymousperson_123
I've already elaborated the concept of subjective and objective morality. When your morality is subjective, you can't make moral claims bhai. That's the logical conclusion. If he then after says that something is right or wrong then that claim is outright absurd. If he believes in Presentism(everything at present is right. That's what he does. He Makes moral claims about Islam by current/present western standards) then he must first prove why his standard should be universal and enforceable. He makes moral judgements about history using current prevalent subjective standards. This is illogical. If believes in subjective standards, then the standards that he is criticising of the historical events were subjectively acceptable to people of that time and place. Therefore, he has no argument.
Don't you get the contradiction?
Aur aap jo absolute ki baat kar rahay hain. Mene aapko uska usage or context within the debate batadya hai. What you are talking about is absolute in the sense that it is fixed past, present, future right? But I'm saying that isn't how it was used.
You know that Islam, and therefore Allah's commands, were completed at the end of Prophet's (peace be upon him)life right? So when a Muslim makes a claim that something is absolutely wrong it of course means after the final revelation was revealed.
Atheistic morality has been changing on daily basis. What's right today will be wrong tomorrow. Such as homosexuality, nudity, and now transgenderism have now become acceptable.
So when we say that these things are absolutely wrong past, present, future, we mean it will always be wrong as per and after final revelation.
That's the common theme of these debates. So I am not making things up. Watch any such debates. I can name a few. Checkout Muslim sebate initiative, subbor ahmad vs alex conner, hamza tzortzis' had numerous such discussions with academics, thought adventure podcast. If Harris wasn't getting these things he could have clarified the terms and definitions right? But Harris did understood as we understood because he was having hard time condemning transgressions using his sunjective changing standards.
Anyways, this debate wasnt of high calibre anyways, because usually, the terms and definitions are made clear before or during the debate.
This was the topic of debate.
You can criticise what raja did with scholars, but that still doesn't change the fact that Harris didn't even put forth an argument for his case. And if Harris is consistent with his idea of subjective morality, then he should shut down his RUclips channel, because he can't make Any moral claims
Video Dekhte 30 minutes Ka pta hi nai chala kese khatm ho gae
MashaAllah Youre amazing sir
وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ ۚ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَٱللَّهُ خَيْرُ ٱلْمَٰكِرِينَ
And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved & plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.
Qaiser bhai you did too much with him🤣🤣
His carrier in danger...may be founding also stopped by his western owner🤣🤣
Qaiser Raja athiests ka 12 khilaari ha 😂
Log iski baatain sun k mazeed door chalay jaty hain deen se
Pajeet crying 😂
That guy Harris had such weak points to discuss. Taking out of context and weak Ahadith to strengthen his backing was itself weakening. I got sick of how he presented the topic. Utter disgust and he lost miserably.
May Allah reward Dr. Qaiser for his efforts and reward him with countless blessings in the hereafter
Qaisar bhai did u admit that its ok to hit ur wife if shes caught cheating? Should you maybe just leave that person ? Are you going to feel better by using physical force to revenge ur feelings?
But she has right to take divorce so why she is not taking.
Her husband can even charge her with adultery (if he can prove it in court).
السلام وعلیکم ورحمتہ اللہ وبرکاتہ
قیصر بھائی اپکی ڈیبیٹ دیکھ کر میرا ایمان اور بھی پختہ ہوگیا 🎉
Most respectfully, Your argument that in UK women are honor killed by their boyfriends and husbands sounds a bit dishonest, dear Raja. You are portraying it as a legal alternative for Islamic Process of handling wives. UK law does not establish torturing, mentally or physically, your wives for betrayal. Be honest. Islam is the true religion. It does not need your flawed logic to win a debate. Therefore, avoid such tactics, you will only weaken our cause. Jazakallah
جزاك الله خير قيصر بهاءي
Hmmm mein expact kr raha tha k app abbas haider pr be bat kro ga wo jo amir haq ne abbas ko bola app k hote howay umeed hai us pr be app apna point of view show kro ga jazaakallah
عباس حیدر کو ٹیشو پیپر تھمایہ جا چکا ہے ، کسی (عامر حق)شخص کی ذاتی کمنٹ کی صفائی آپ اگر قیصر صاحب سے مانگ رہیں ہیں تو پھر اس فارمولے کے مطابق بات بہت دور تک چلی جائے گی
@@kamaal_Saif agr raja sab waha amir haq k sath na hote to koi be un se sawal na krta Abbas ne kafi valid question uthay thay jis ma raja sab be shamil hai .
@@maharalihassan8111 سرکار معصومانہ سوال پوچھا تھا اگر اسی فارمولے کو ریورس کر دیا جائے تو حارث اور قیصر کے درمیان ڈیبیٹ میں عباس حیدر کی موجودگی نہیں بلکہ موڈریشن میں حارث نے "پیلے جاتے" ہیں جیسے بازارو اور فحش لفظ کا استعمال کر دیا تھا کیا قیصر صاحب اب یہ کہنا شروع کر دیں کے عباس صاحب کو جواب دینا پڑے گا؟؟ انکی اپنی ذات پر بات آ گیٔ تو پھر وکٹم کارڈ کھیل رہیں ہیں ، میری جان یہ سوشل میڈیا ہے یہاں شیشے سا دل رکھ کر نہ نکلا کرو جو معیار اپنے لئے پسند کرو وہی معیار دوسروں کے لئے پسند کرو یہ ہوتی ہے عدل پر مبنی اصولی بات ورنہ دو ویڈیو بنا کر بھی عباس نے کویٔ ٹھوس بات تو کی نہیں
@@kamaal_Saif ye mujhe be pata hai Abbas is debate ko thk handle Nahi kr paiya q k wo kabi is thara ki stream Nahi krta pr mujhe Abbas ki bat ma zada sense lagi app is ne itafaq na kray koi bat Nahi mein app ki Rai ki izat krta ho
@@maharalihassan8111 جی میں مشکور ممنوں ہوں بس میں یہ عرض کر رہا تھا کہ عباس بھائی نے تھوڑا تحمل سے کام لیا ہوتا اور اس مسلے کو صحیح وقت پر رکھا ہوتا تو بہتر تھا
Tabari b truck k nichy gya SHABAAASH 😂
Allah apko jaza e khair ataa kare . Farigh Sultan ke pass koi morality nahi hai, iske hisab se society me jo bhi aam hojaye wo moral ho jayega(khud isne dibate me kaha hai). Kal ke din incest aur pata nahi kya kya aam hojaye to wo morally correct ho jayega iske pass. Khud apni pole khol ke Atheism ki asliyat bata di zamane ko.
If something is Absolute, why does it need a FINAL Word or Ruling ???? If it is Absolute, it should be the ONLY word, and throughout. If things are "progressively" corrected with time, they are not based on something Absolute. Absolute means Absolute....not progressive. Were you arguing for your position or his ? Just attaching a label of "Absolute" doesn't make it so.....your mental gymnastics are clear proof of this. Here's your position in simple terms "This (xyz) practise is relatively bad.....still relatively bad....wait, still relatively bad...almost there, but still relatively bad......ok, now Absolutely Bad (Final Ruling) !! But wait, Absolute doesn't mean under NO circumstances....you have to consider the context....like killing for blasphemy, or "pretend" beating (very gently with a handkerchief) to express EXTREME displeasure at spousal infidelity". Makes perfect sense....NOT!
That is a whole lot of rubbish.
Fot us to say something is bad we already must know what is good.If morality is just a subjective taste of people _ You like chocolate and i like vanilla _ ,then you have your truth and i have my truth.
Harris snailtan said there are no absolutes ( Including this statement) !
For us to call something curvaceous we already must have an idea of a straight line!!
With regards to circumstances blah blah blah or the vomit of sam harris about consequentialism that is too ridiculous.
The belief about reality doesnt change the reality.you can utter ridiculous nonsense to look good but it doesnt change the fact that you are a tailless devolved monkey that too a devolved one who is _ ontologically _ no different from a pig or a cockroach.
If Incest is Not Absolutely Wrong Morally .Can you give me 1 or 2 Scenario from your "Prograssive" mind in which Incest can be considered Morally Right?
@@IslamistLeads Lol!! a person who believes that he is born out of Incest relation of Adam and Eve is calling incest "Absolutely wrong" 😂😂😂😂. Cousin marriage is rampant in islamic world which is generally seen very bad in Non muslim world. To bhai tu to incest pe kuchh na hi keh to achha hai 😂😂
This is called red herring fallacy,I would like to know too.May be Nyog could be the scenario in which incest is Morally Right 😂😂
@@faisal5544 Or Adam and Eve and their Kids having sex with each other or Cousin marriages among Muslims. If these things are allowed in Islam then Incest is not absolutely wrong even in Islam. So first talk about that.
Sir ye Amir Haq Sahb ki or Abbas Haider k msly jo Create ho Rhy Use Solve kreN plzzz
Yha hum Amir bhai ki revew sun k abbas ko bura jan rhy or abbass ki revew se amir bhai ko bura kehry . Alg hi level ki Confused ho rhy . isy khtm krwaen plzzz
As a Muslim, I lam not satisfied by your arguments. I wish HS debate should be with other true Muslim scholar. I realized that you have insufficient argument and it's your fault not in Islam at all
debate thi morality pa ye Murtad us ma Fiqhi masail utha k la aya is ma fault kis ka ha qaiser ka ya us murtad ka?
Masha Allah Qaiser Bhai
i observed his body language in that debate.. his mental health is not good its my suggestion to check out best of the best doctor in his area and get further treatment..
QAISER BHAI GREAT 👍👍❤❤❤
Dua to Fix all your family issues:
رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ اَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيّٰتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وََّاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا
اے ہمارے رب !تو ہمیں ہماری بیویوں اور اولادوں سے آنکھوں کی ٹھنڈک عطا فرما اور ہمیں پرہیزگا روں کا امام بنا۔
Our Lord! Grant us from among our wives and offspring, comfort to our eyes and make us an example for the righteousness. (Al-Furqan:74)
He have no answers he just blaming islam and saying now prove me wrong 😂
Sir *~Respect~*
Sir ek baar Neeraj Atri se bhi debate karen.
Allah tala aap k ilm o amal, emman or zindgi ma izafa fermain. Aap ki hifazat fermain. Ameen ameen
JazakAllah for clearing it all up.
ضعیف تو اپ بھی ہوگئے ہیں راجہ جی ۔۔😅
Strict legal action must be taken against responsible and i am sure local govt officials are involved directly by taking dollars
اعسلام اعلیکم قیسر بھائی
آپ نے ڈبیٹ میں کہاکہ آدم علہ سلام کی اولادوں سے انسانیت کی شروعات نہیں ہوئی ۔۔۔ ہم بیشیتے مسلمان یہی سمجھتے ہیں کہ آدم علہ ص سے انسانیت کی شروعات
ہوئی اب آپ کا کیا نظریہ ہے انسانیت کی شروعات کیسے ہوئی .?????
Did he actually say that ?
I think he said we can't say anything specific with full confidence about the unseen and unknown which hasn't been mentioned in the primary sources(quran and sunnat). Their are opinions, but he wanted Harris to show it from primary sources.
Jazakallah khair
Qaiser sahib HARRIS se DHULAAI😅 k baad kesa lag raha hai.. 😂😂😂😂😂
पुत्र डिबेट समझ भी आई😂 ? डिबेट करने वाला डिबेट के बुनियादी मुद्दे से ही जान छुड़ा के निकल लिया अब तुम जैसे मूर्ख ढोल पीट रहे हो😂
@@kamaal_Saif qaiser saahib and momins ka rona dhona dekh k sab samaj aa raha hai.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣o
@@Siyaramji823 चवन्नी जी रो कौन रहा है जाकर पता कर लो 😂😂 वैसे तुम्हारा दूध भात इस लिए के ये सब समझने के लिए भेजा चाहिए और उस फ्लोर में तो गोबर है इस लिए मुन्ने टेंशन कोई नई लेनी तू बस हारिस की चूसता रह और इसी पर खुश रह
Go read about hinduism the gapod of pandit tumhari aukat bhi islam par bat krne ki😂
@@Siyaramji823keep crying kid 😂
Raja saab pooray video mai apni awam ko bus yehi bata rahe hai k jo kuch bhi islamic books mai likha ha asal main us ka matlab wo nahi hai jo likha howa ha 🤦🏻♂️
Or wajdi saab ne jo sawal poochay thy wo ye sahib gool hi ker gye 😂
Kitna manafiq aadmi ha ye raja
wajidi sahab ne kya sawaal pooche thay? please tell cuz I haven't watched that video
@@billybro1403 wajdi saab ne rajay ko specifically pocha tha k choti bachi k haiz wali ayat ki tashreeh kare kuon k jo tashreeh raja Debate mai de raha tha wo ijma k bilkul ult thi
Ye akela munafik nai ha is jesay saray mazbhi ek sey bhr kr ek munafik hn
Clear winner🎉
Qaiser saab ko chahiye harris sultan ki video pa research paper likhey so that next day wo ya batein hi nahi kahey. Once for all.
To bo honest you made a weak case. You lost accept it and walk away and next time go prepared
Oh how?
Kaisar bhai allah apko jazayr khair de❤
The response toward moderator was very disappointing.
The moderator did well and Emaan channel and that guy Haq comments were outrageous toward moderator and you didn’t stop that guy Haq
Koi Gulam jana chahe toh ja sakte hai “SHARTE” puri kar ke 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ha yahi baat hai research karo, atheist sources nahi balke muslim sources sai.
Hahah Haris multiple times said morality is adapted by society after experiences. Qaiser sahab you are such a disgrace to muslims.. plus aap ne still haiz per qurani ayat ki tafseer per har aalim ko rad krdya. Ab jab saheeh hadeeso per baat krengy tau us per kahegy.." nahi ji yeh tau ye ye tau wo" pehlay hadees aur quran per aik moral ground khud tau set kren .. Allah hum sab ko hidayat de ameen
Raja sb congratulations on winning the debate
There are number of loopholes and drawbacks in every religion so like as islam has also some default in theories and practices interpreted by well known sharia alims it is difficult to argue with an atheist since he may show you all hidden secrets of that time which were common practice 14years ago but now today's ethical society this consider as immoral and unethical for humanity like concept of slavery in islam
Many loopholes😅? I think you don't know the basics, Slavery was practised in pre islamic period in Arabs which was slowly eliminated, that's why there is no concept slavery in Islam now.
You should have left the debate when he was insulting the Prophet(S.A.W) and Islam. But you did not even ahow any concern. You were more concerned about the bloody format of the debate than invalidating his points. You're a disappointment.
Such a dumb argument
Os ko expose krna hein os na disrespect kiya hein wo oun ko prophet he nai manta wo Abu jhail hein is doar ka agar wo baat na krty hein tu wo mou par park k khata muslman bag Gayá hum geet Gayá
@@MamaMama-sv3b usko expose kya karna hai wo to hai hi badnaame zamaana mulhid
@@billybro1403 mulhid na kha kro os ko Abu jhail kha kr to Abu khail sani
Tum debate bahut buri tarah hare ho mr qaiser. Tum munkir ho is baat k ki adam alehissalam ki podh aapas me nahi badi . Touba touba
I'd change tunni 😂😂
Allah aapko salamat rakhe
Aik momin itna hi dishonest hota hay jitna yeh banda hay. Bhai sb ap nay sari islamic scholarship, hadeeths or even quran bhi truck kay neechay phaink dya.
Funny.
Ap momin nehi lekin Islamic scholars se jyada jante ho...Dishonest kon pata chal gya
@@chemistrynine7256
Mufti Yasir Wajidi aik honest or respectable person hay is jahil ko tarah hr hadeeth or ayat ko negate nhin krta. Is jahil ko chahye pehlay proper ilm lay or phir debate mein aye.
@@chemistrynine7256
Secondly I studied from Makkah University and participated in tajweed competitions. Dont claim what you dont know. Seems you are following your master Jahil Raja.
@@hiddentruth1424 Makka University 🤣😂 MasAllah. Thora sharam kar Jao. Jhut thora halka main bolna karo
@@hiddentruth1424 tajweed competition 😂🥴🤣
For you may be
" Weed competition "
Suarh talaq ki aayat no4 ki Final wazahat kare ahadees aur tafseer se ????