The baby Luxman was more transparent than expected with fine imaging an admirable balance across the frequency bands. The air between the instruments and around the vocals was smile inducing not to mention unexpected in most amps at this price point. Incisive yet never seemed to editorialize or add unwanted coloration to an already impeccable tonal nature. As for the Denon, well it does look good and praiseworthiness runs thin from there on in. Proving the point yet again with higher end audio equipment, once you get a taste , as with the Luxman 505 , for audiophile grade audio, there is no going back.
The Luxman is definitely fuller in the mids, and has better low end presence. The Denon sounds a little thinner around the mids, allowing the nice, airy treble to be heard a little better. I tend to like that kinda smile shaped sound. However, I found myself preferring the sound of the luxman. It was richer, and more even sounding.
Luxman more natural ,relaxed and controlled. Vocal comes from the right place. With Denon the resolution is lower, bass is worse. And vocal comes from unnaturally far back and of course it is too bright.
I owned the PMA 2000 IVR for many years and was happy with it but my tastes might slightly prefer the Luxman now which just sounds more transparent to me than the PMA 2000. Although the Denon has a nice organic touch that the Luxman doesn't seem to have. Now it would be interesting to hear the Luxman against the new Denon A110. I get its a lot closer and a better comparo really.
It’s hard to be objective considering the path of the music from your speakers and ending in my earphones. However I can tell you what I heard and the differences that were apparent to my ears. The first thing I noted was the more apparent and tighter bass from the Luxman. Secondly the Denon sounded much brighter in the upper mid and lower high frequencies. I preferred the warmer sound from the Luxman. For example the piano and strings sounded overly bright on the Denon; compared with the sweeter yet well defined sound from the Luxman simulating the same instruments. I preferred the vocal on the Luxman too. To my ears the Luxman had better definition, yet a warmer sound, from the lowest bass through to the highest frequencies that I could hear. I would love to hear them directly. As it is I have tried to give an honest opinion of the sounds I could hear. I would love to hear some classical or baroque music on this system. JS Bach’s famous Toccata and Fugue in D Minor (BWV 565) by Simon Preston on Deutsche Grammophon 1989 would give the system a good test, especially if you like the lower organ registers!
Listening with Audeze LCD-X headphones with RM ADI-2 DAC. First immediately noticed - it hears like with Denon she doesn't even go with the rythm of the music, like she lags a bit behind it. Luxman absolutely wins dynamics, bass presentation and control, I bet the soundstage is much deeper (and probably a bit wider). Even if it might looks like Denon is more alive, Luxman is fuller and natural sounding. Denon is much brighter on highs. But Luxman is not less detailed! Its surely a matter of taste - but with those B&Ws it could be fatiguing (it probably is). Denon is less clear in mids also - instruments separation is much better on Luxman.. So its like 4:1 in favor of Luxman (with 1 for Denon's "liveliness"), which kind of reflects the units price ratio.
The Denon has the edge, not by a lot. I hear some artifacts that could be power or cable related. Very good comparison overall, I think both represent well for this price range and type of amps. Thanks for the work on this for us.
As a huge Sade fan, I had to listen to this a couple of times. "Kiss of Life" is sacred ground for me. I found myself critiquing Ms. Mahya's cover of Sade's classic, rather than listening critically, albeit limited as we all are by our own PC speaker set-ups. The Denon sounded brighter and wider, and seemed to push instrumentation at the expense of the vocals. The inevitable consequence of that for me is ear fatigue. I might listen to the Denon for a ditty or two, but if I'm truly looking to wind down and/or escape, I'd pick the Luxman. Having said that, given the price and class of the Luxman, I felt like it needed to really blow me away....but it didn't.
There was absolutely something going on with a patch cord or input on the Denon maybe loose ground bad solder joint something that seemed to come and go maybe fixed itself as it warmed up to bad because if that was to no of been occuring i would of put my money on the Denon all day the inside pf these amps are simply delicious looking and there ratings are completely utterly and vastly underrated! Denon for the W!! #1
A lot of comments Here favor the luxman, I can't blame them it's a beautiful and it sound wonderful amplifier. But I went for the denon. I pared the denon with tannoy d700, and to control the high, I got a dac with a tube output. Oh man, what a pair. A friend of mine have a high-end mcintosh set up. He is surprised how good the denon.
Clearly luxman win.. but I think there are some other choices that worth to try out.. classe ca d200, accu e370, roksan blak, densen beat 130+ & ragnarok with dac module..
Sorry, but I’d dump the AT HP’s. Don’t know about the Sony’s. Massdrop Focal Elex are supposed to be good, as are Sundara’s for cheaper option. I like the Luxman, but would like to see what an equivalently priced Naim amplification would do. Thanks 🙏
To me the Luxman is warm while the Denon is clear. I feel emotion with the Luxman only, everything sounds real and balanced (the Denon seems to lack bass).
All of your shouting for Luxman be aware that if an IC board brakes you can junk it, since you won't find parts for it, while the Denon can be repaired and had for 30 years or more.
Hi Tharbamar, had the Luxman a " cold start " as the Denon had ? I don't know any PowerAmp what sounds good started cold, even my Hypex UCD700 ( Class D ) wants a warm - up and so my PreAmp Vincent SA-32 of at least 30. Min. Was both Amps playing at same Volume ? And thanks for your Videos, I like them ! Ralf
Nice comparison. Both amplifiers sound good. the denon 2000 is a lot older than the luxman (and little difference) the denon pma 2500ne is a lot better with new Schottky barrier diodes and built-in dac. unfortunately the denon pma 2500 ne is not available in the US. Only japan and europe. What is the reason for that? price quality very attractive the 2500ne compared to the luxman. it won't be much apart other good alternative price / quality: atoll in300 yahama s2100
Good evening Sir @Tharbamar & to all your subscribers ! Been saving alot & before pulling the trigger 🙂 , which amongst this 2 amps would you recommend: LUXMAN L-505 UX II (currently @ 330,000 Yen) or...... DENON PMA-A110 (currently @ 336,600 Yen). Will be driving my humble Wharfedale linton 85th, thanks for your most positive inputs "NO MUSIC NO LIFE"
@@Tharbamar Hello Sir, just pulled the trigger! DENON PMA-A110 & DP-450USB has arrived, will set-up & pair with my B&W 606 S2/AE to break them in. Planing to get Wharfedale EVO 4.2 or the Linton Heritage soon (room size about 36m2). Many thanks for your input Sir
@@Tharbamar good day once more Sir. The PMA-A110 just arrived, many thanks for your recommendation. Now, may I humbly ask for your honest opinion, my room here in Japan is about 6 X 6 meters, which BOOKSHELF speaker would you recommend (B&W 706, Focal Aria 906, Wharfedale EVO 4.2) with good ample Bass as don't intend to use any subs, good quality & a bang for the buck....... thanks once more & GODBLESS
The Luxman sounds better in every single aspects to me. Not even slightly challenged by the Denon that almost sounds faulty next to the Luxman. The Denon sounds completely lifeless. Listening on my office 2.1 system, NuPrime stack with Monitor Audio and a SVS sub.
GOOD (MID-VINTAGE SOUND SIGNATURE ) VS Level above GOOD (NEW-AGE sound signature) YOU ALL KNOW THIS 😆 Luxman a bad Boy ! Denon isnt no chump though . Keep them both 😆
Hmm, not soo. I have a pma2000ae and pma 2020ae. The pma 2020ae is better sounding amplifier i can hear the difference! The pma-2500ne is step above over PMA-2000IV-R !
@mystique What I meant was same design principles with improved parts and they are still using same chassis as older 2000 series and I would not call it step above because it just a newer gen that replace the old one and still sell them at same price point with improvements.
In my opinion the Luxman is more dynamic in the bass and more consistent. However, it seemed to me that Denon is more musical and richer in the middle range and open and airy tops. But I would like to know the opinion of the channel based on listening to what it says about the two amplifiers. Hearing on youtube is different from listening on site. greetings from Portugal
I bet you will be really shocked when you fully treat right sidewall. Nevertheless luxman is obvious winner. And now I understood why in your reviews Wharfedale Lintons sounded boomy with sharped high region.
so its not that BW is bright by nature.. much of it could be due to the amp! it sounds like two different speakers! I can feel luxman is more dynamic and exerts more control in the drum strength. But the highs of the piano from the denon is beautiful too.
Luxman is better match here with this B&W. Denon sounds more relaxed and liquid but needs some little more explicit speakers to fully shine. That's it.
Amplifiers like other electronic components need to be turned on and allowed to stabilize. Transistors will behave differently at different temperatures.
The first thing that I noticed listening to these demos is that the luxman appears to have excessive bass, with it sounding unnaturally boosted. The Denon sounded much more natural and easy to my ears. However, the mids and midbass with the Denon sounded relatively anemic leading to the top end sounding brighter. Personally, I would go with the luxman if it has tone controls or eq to reduce the bass.
agree denon sounded easy on ears with recessed vocals,less pronounced midrange,but top end for me for unknown reason more irritating on luxman while is has more definition
The Luxman has much better clarity and would be less fatiguing. Its alittle too much on the warm side for my taste. The Denon is nice but I think the Luxman is a better amp. Imho
I found that none of the amps are shining in this setup. It seems fatiguing. I mentioned this before too and I say it again, your room sounds very echoey and needs to be further damped down!! Anyway all these aspects kept aside, the Denon sounds flatter in all respects. I dint enjoy that presentation at all. Luxman on the other hand, sounded fuller. You should not settle on this Luxman and keep your hunt on!! All the best bud!!
I have the same feeling. I think I hear stationary waves on lower bass notes, though it might not be only due to the room. It could simply be saturation if the levels are set too high on the mike... so it could be a recording issue rather than a reproduction issue, you probably experience it very differently. Have you tried listening to your video in your room by any chance, and sharing thoughts, Tharbamar ? Both amps sound very refined and detailed overall, with a much more full bodied and full range sound out of the luxman index... I'd love to hear a comparison with a Parasound Hint!
I use industry standard gain setting on my recorder and stereo mics, not like most RUclips videos.please keep in mind music was originally recorded in Jazz cafe with not much of acoustic treatments. I do not listen sound demos with my stereo because I will only hear my system, I listen with ATH-M50 or MDR7506 headphones to hear the sound of system. Parasound Hint is less detail sounding amp compare to these, thanks
I find both setups too bright or your room needs more treatment. This would tire my ears over time. Also not a fan of B&W or metal drivers. Both amps do seem of high quality though.
luxman sounds more rich with prominent mids but the bass is not as good as denon. Denon sounds balanced with better bass control. correct me if i am wrong since i am listening to this on youtube. Luxman sounded slightly better
Is there anybody who will tell something good about Denon? IMHO Denon didn't lose his path here. Very detailed sound with great midtones and accurate bass guitar partitions in the beginning. Luxman maybe a bit better, but Denon is also great. Price difference is obvious in the sound department, but I will choose Denon always before Luxman. Some warm loudspeakers will be better choice for Denon instead of this BW. The only sad thing is that this Denon cannot be found in my country. Or the new ones.
I agree! I pick up a Denon A.V.R 2500 surround rec with a phono out put included only $ 2O.OO t the goodwill I luv it. i might get one new i neve r realized they were in the ranks of H,K,,rotel, nad,Now i know!! By the way if ya remove the Hood off the Denon Receivers There Quite easy to spray down with Dust remover spray.There insides are well sepatated that way! Enjoy..Ps the Denon has nice extended Highs over Lux which ive owned as well..
15 years and 1000 euros separate its two devices...Denon is a great competitor for is age. If youy want compare sound tuning do it with the 2500NE, same generation of sound tuning and same range of price
The PMA-2000IV-R is old model. You must compare this Luxman with the new models from Denon, the PMA 2020ae or PMA 2500ne. Luxman is over priced. Yamaha a s2100 is also very good choice.
Luxman is obviously better in resolution and lower distortion. Neither is particularly to my tastes. Prefer a smoother and fuller presentation. Can't see Lux being a good match to B&W diamond series. A lot of people match with Harbeth speakers which are pretty much the opposite presentation. May be nicer with Lintons at reasonable price or the new Wharfedale Evo series.
To make a fair opinion, you need to own both and test them with several kinds of music. But just hearing from here, with all the limitations... I enjoy more the highs of the Denon.
To me luxman better than denon by quite a large margin. The overall sound more substantial & plays lower. The denon has a midrange glare that i personally don’t like. That plus a lack of body to the sound will lead to fatigue very quickly. The luxman also sound more polished & alot quieter overall.
Got a bargain last week on one in silver Immaculate Condition with original box all accessories, manuals and remote for 125 couldn't believe it! Sounds LUSH!
The baby Luxman was more transparent than expected with fine imaging an admirable balance across the frequency bands. The air between the instruments and around the vocals was smile inducing not to mention unexpected in most amps at this price point. Incisive yet never seemed to editorialize or add unwanted coloration to an already impeccable tonal nature. As for the Denon, well it does look good and praiseworthiness runs thin from there on in. Proving the point yet again with higher end audio equipment, once you get a taste , as with the Luxman 505 , for audiophile grade audio, there is no going back.
The Luxman is definitely fuller in the mids, and has better low end presence. The Denon sounds a little thinner around the mids, allowing the nice, airy treble to be heard a little better. I tend to like that kinda smile shaped sound. However, I found myself preferring the sound of the luxman. It was richer, and more even sounding.
Luxman more natural ,relaxed and controlled. Vocal comes from the right place. With Denon the resolution is lower, bass is worse. And vocal comes from unnaturally far back and of course it is too bright.
I owned the PMA 2000 IVR for many years and was happy with it but my tastes might slightly prefer the Luxman now which just sounds more transparent to me than the PMA 2000. Although the Denon has a nice organic touch that the Luxman doesn't seem to have. Now it would be interesting to hear the Luxman against the new Denon A110. I get its a lot closer and a better comparo really.
They both sound good to my ear and I could probably enjoy either of them too. Thx for the comparison!
The Winner for me is the Luxman
i have ordered a Luxman L 505 uXII now , and i feel like a child on christmas eve ..i am WAITING !!
Luxman and Accuphase would be a great comparison too...
Over in ear monitors it soulds like Luxman has more "meat on the bone" and smoother highs.
It’s hard to be objective considering the path of the music from your speakers and ending in my earphones. However I can tell you what I heard and the differences that were apparent to my ears. The first thing I noted was the more apparent and tighter bass from the Luxman. Secondly the Denon sounded much brighter in the upper mid and lower high frequencies. I preferred the warmer sound from the Luxman. For example the piano and strings sounded overly bright on the Denon; compared with the sweeter yet well defined sound from the Luxman simulating the same instruments. I preferred the vocal on the Luxman too. To my ears the Luxman had better definition, yet a warmer sound, from the lowest bass through to the highest frequencies that I could hear. I would love to hear them directly. As it is I have tried to give an honest opinion of the sounds I could hear. I would love to hear some classical or baroque music on this system. JS Bach’s famous Toccata and Fugue in D Minor (BWV 565) by Simon Preston on Deutsche Grammophon 1989 would give the system a good test, especially if you like the lower organ registers!
Listening with Audeze LCD-X headphones with RM ADI-2 DAC. First immediately noticed - it hears like with Denon she doesn't even go with the rythm of the music, like she lags a bit behind it. Luxman absolutely wins dynamics, bass presentation and control, I bet the soundstage is much deeper (and probably a bit wider). Even if it might looks like Denon is more alive, Luxman is fuller and natural sounding. Denon is much brighter on highs. But Luxman is not less detailed! Its surely a matter of taste - but with those B&Ws it could be fatiguing (it probably is). Denon is less clear in mids also - instruments separation is much better on Luxman.. So its like 4:1 in favor of Luxman (with 1 for Denon's "liveliness"), which kind of reflects the units price ratio.
The Denon has the edge, not by a lot. I hear some artifacts that could be power or cable related. Very good comparison overall, I think both represent well for this price range and type of amps. Thanks for the work on this for us.
As a huge Sade fan, I had to listen to this a couple of times. "Kiss of Life" is sacred ground for me. I found myself critiquing Ms. Mahya's cover of Sade's classic, rather than listening critically, albeit limited as we all are by our own PC speaker set-ups. The Denon sounded brighter and wider, and seemed to push instrumentation at the expense of the vocals. The inevitable consequence of that for me is ear fatigue. I might listen to the Denon for a ditty or two, but if I'm truly looking to wind down and/or escape, I'd pick the Luxman. Having said that, given the price and class of the Luxman, I felt like it needed to really blow me away....but it didn't.
now I know why most of luxman amplifier are little bit expensive. but for the practicality I would go for denon.
There was absolutely something going on with a patch cord or input on the Denon maybe loose ground bad solder joint something that seemed to come and go maybe fixed itself as it warmed up to bad because if that was to no of been occuring i would of put my money on the Denon all day the inside pf these amps are simply delicious looking and there ratings are completely utterly and vastly underrated! Denon for the W!! #1
A lot of comments Here favor the luxman, I can't blame them it's a beautiful and it sound wonderful amplifier. But I went for the denon. I pared the denon with tannoy d700, and to control the high, I got a dac with a tube output. Oh man, what a pair. A friend of mine have a high-end mcintosh set up. He is surprised how good the denon.
I think I hear more detail with the Denon. Base is not as boomy with the Denon
Please do this vs with yours JBL 580
Do you use shielded power cable? Sound is a bit strangled. Try and use unshielded right from the wall.
Clearly luxman win.. but I think there are some other choices that worth to try out.. classe ca d200, accu e370, roksan blak, densen beat 130+ & ragnarok with dac module..
I wonder how sound Luxman with Harbeth p3esr SE , is this good company ?
Sorry, but I’d dump the AT HP’s. Don’t know about the Sony’s. Massdrop Focal Elex are supposed to be good, as are Sundara’s for cheaper option. I like the Luxman, but would like to see what an equivalently priced Naim amplification would do. Thanks 🙏
To me the Luxman is warm while the Denon is clear. I feel emotion with the Luxman only, everything sounds real and balanced (the Denon seems to lack bass).
By the video, the Denon is winning but I don't know how it will be if I hear them both in person!
Luxman here. Much tighter bass, more controlled in general. But again, listening in person can be different.
All of your shouting for Luxman be aware that if an IC board brakes you can junk it, since you won't find parts for it, while the Denon can be repaired and had for 30 years or more.
Can you review Denon PMA 2500 NE.
Since you are in the room please tell is which is better!😄
Luxman sounds beter to me, good resolution, timing, clarity. Denon on the other hand muddy, lifeless and recessed.
In my opinion the Luxman sounds much better . The Denon sounds dull/flat ...
Luxman sounds good, denon is sounding bright to me..
Luxman vs Yamaha would be interesting.
Hi Tharbamar,
had the Luxman a " cold start " as the Denon had ?
I don't know any PowerAmp what sounds good started cold, even my Hypex UCD700
( Class D ) wants a warm - up and so my PreAmp Vincent SA-32 of at least 30. Min.
Was both Amps playing at same Volume ?
And thanks for your Videos, I like them !
Ralf
Nice comparison. Both amplifiers sound good. the denon 2000 is a lot older than the luxman (and little difference) the denon pma 2500ne is a lot better with new Schottky barrier diodes and built-in dac. unfortunately the denon pma 2500 ne is not available in the US. Only japan and europe. What is the reason for that? price quality very attractive the 2500ne compared to the luxman. it won't be much apart
other good alternative price / quality:
atoll in300
yahama s2100
Yes I agree, I'm more interested in PMA-SX11 than 2500NE because I do not want build in DAC, thanks
Love to know the artist and song featured on this!
Good evening Sir @Tharbamar & to all your subscribers ! Been saving alot & before pulling the trigger 🙂 , which amongst this 2 amps would you recommend: LUXMAN L-505 UX II (currently @ 330,000 Yen) or...... DENON PMA-A110 (currently @ 336,600 Yen). Will be driving my humble Wharfedale linton 85th, thanks for your most positive inputs "NO MUSIC NO LIFE"
Sound is subjective, I would go with PMA-110, parts in 505 UX II is not as good, thanks
@@Tharbamar Hello Sir, just pulled the trigger! DENON PMA-A110 & DP-450USB has arrived, will set-up & pair with my B&W 606 S2/AE to break them in. Planing to get Wharfedale EVO 4.2 or the Linton Heritage soon (room size about 36m2). Many thanks for your input Sir
@@Tharbamar good day once more Sir. The PMA-A110 just arrived, many thanks for your recommendation. Now, may I humbly ask for your honest opinion, my room here in Japan is about 6 X 6 meters, which BOOKSHELF speaker would you recommend (B&W 706, Focal Aria 906, Wharfedale EVO 4.2) with good ample Bass as don't intend to use any subs, good quality & a bang for the buck....... thanks once more & GODBLESS
@@ericcabugao3807 Denon pair really well with 706 and Evo 4.2 but I would also suggest you to try with JBK Studio 630, thanks
Version of the song? who Is it?
The Luxman sounds better in every single aspects to me. Not even slightly challenged by the Denon that almost sounds faulty next to the Luxman. The Denon sounds completely lifeless. Listening on my office 2.1 system, NuPrime stack with Monitor Audio and a SVS sub.
no wonder your experience is so bad those NuPrimes are real dust collectors.
Hi nice video. What's the deferences with model pma200r? Thank you
Hi tharbamar, Are you going to give the Macintosh ma252 a try?
Hi David, I'm going to try MA352 not 252, thanks
GOOD (MID-VINTAGE SOUND SIGNATURE ) VS Level above GOOD (NEW-AGE sound signature)
YOU ALL KNOW THIS 😆 Luxman a bad Boy ! Denon isnt no chump though . Keep them both 😆
Lux is superior here. The Yamaha 3000 would be interesting competition for the Lux.
yes great idea...
I wonder if denon pma-2500ne would sound the same as this denon.
It should because basically same amplifier design with DAC.
Hmm, not soo. I have a pma2000ae and pma 2020ae. The pma 2020ae is better sounding amplifier i can hear the difference! The pma-2500ne is step above over PMA-2000IV-R !
@@Tharbamar In the new Denon PMA-2500 amplifier improved :
MOS FETs peak current of 210A
Damping factor: greater than 700
Yes, I'm seriously thinking about new Denon models, thanks
@mystique
What I meant was same design principles with improved parts and they are still using same chassis as older 2000 series and I would not call it step above because it just a newer gen that replace the old one and still sell them at same price point with improvements.
In my opinion the Luxman is more dynamic in the bass and more consistent. However, it seemed to me that Denon is more musical and richer in the middle range and open and airy tops. But I would like to know the opinion of the channel based on listening to what it says about the two amplifiers. Hearing on youtube is different from listening on site. greetings from Portugal
Welcome, Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Accuphase or luxman sounds good?
Clear choice me , sounds almost like two different tracks, definitely the luxman .
I bet you will be really shocked when you fully treat right sidewall.
Nevertheless luxman is obvious winner.
And now I understood why in your reviews Wharfedale Lintons sounded boomy with sharped high region.
What speakers did you use in this demo? Thanks.
This is very old video I don't remember, it should be listed the video.
so its not that BW is bright by nature.. much of it could be due to the amp! it sounds like two different speakers! I can feel luxman is more dynamic and exerts more control in the drum strength. But the highs of the piano from the denon is beautiful too.
May I ask what speaker model is it?
Luxman sounds more musical
Wow: the Denon sounds so much more alive. Maybe a little overly bright though.
the 706s too bright for Denon.
Highs on Denton are a bit untamed in comparison.. thanks
Apart from the volume not being matched, these two amps sound exactly the same. As they should.
Luxman is better match here with this B&W. Denon sounds more relaxed and liquid but needs some little more explicit speakers to fully shine. That's it.
Amplifiers like other electronic components need to be turned on and allowed to stabilize. Transistors will behave differently at different temperatures.
The first thing that I noticed listening to these demos is that the luxman appears to have excessive bass, with it sounding unnaturally boosted. The Denon sounded much more natural and easy to my ears. However, the mids and midbass with the Denon sounded relatively anemic leading to the top end sounding brighter.
Personally, I would go with the luxman if it has tone controls or eq to reduce the bass.
You got that right, I would like to know what do you use for monitor it, please let me know, thanks
@@Tharbamar Sony headphones, WH-CH700N over-the-ears.
agree denon sounded easy on ears with recessed vocals,less pronounced midrange,but top end for me for unknown reason more irritating on luxman while is has more definition
Wow, good!
To bad you don't have some 702 S2 to try that amp with.
Luxman is an art of sound
Nah, low quality parts inside than Denon.
@@Tharbamar he said luxman , who mentioned the Denon?
The Luxman has much better clarity and would be less fatiguing. Its alittle too much on the warm side for my taste. The Denon is nice but I think the Luxman is a better amp. Imho
Luxman the best!!!
Wheres the subwoofer? Such speakers needs and comes out better with a sub.
I agree. Have the 607 and was not satisfied completely. Although they are nice, i got a asw608 and now pretty happy in my small room.
For my ears luxman is intresting
Luxman👍
denon for me
I found that none of the amps are shining in this setup. It seems fatiguing. I mentioned this before too and I say it again, your room sounds very echoey and needs to be further damped down!! Anyway all these aspects kept aside, the Denon sounds flatter in all respects. I dint enjoy that presentation at all. Luxman on the other hand, sounded fuller. You should not settle on this Luxman and keep your hunt on!! All the best bud!!
I have the same feeling. I think I hear stationary waves on lower bass notes, though it might not be only due to the room. It could simply be saturation if the levels are set too high on the mike... so it could be a recording issue rather than a reproduction issue, you probably experience it very differently. Have you tried listening to your video in your room by any chance, and sharing thoughts, Tharbamar ? Both amps sound very refined and detailed overall, with a much more full bodied and full range sound out of the luxman index... I'd love to hear a comparison with a Parasound Hint!
I use industry standard gain setting on my recorder and stereo mics, not like most RUclips videos.please keep in mind music was originally recorded in Jazz cafe with not much of acoustic treatments.
I do not listen sound demos with my stereo because I will only hear my system, I listen with ATH-M50 or MDR7506 headphones to hear the sound of system. Parasound Hint is less detail sounding amp compare to these, thanks
I find both setups too bright or your room needs more treatment. This would tire my ears over time. Also not a fan of B&W or metal drivers. Both amps do seem of high quality though.
Luxman !!
luxman sounds more rich with prominent mids but the bass is not as good as denon. Denon sounds balanced with better bass control. correct me if i am wrong since i am listening to this on youtube. Luxman sounded slightly better
Is there anybody who will tell something good about Denon? IMHO Denon didn't lose his path here. Very detailed sound with great midtones and accurate bass guitar partitions in the beginning. Luxman maybe a bit better, but Denon is also great. Price difference is obvious in the sound department, but I will choose Denon always before Luxman. Some warm loudspeakers will be better choice for Denon instead of this BW. The only sad thing is that this Denon cannot be found in my country. Or the new ones.
I agree! I pick up a Denon A.V.R 2500 surround rec with a phono out put included only $ 2O.OO t the goodwill I luv it. i might get one new i neve r realized they were in the ranks of H,K,,rotel, nad,Now i know!! By the way if ya remove the Hood off the Denon Receivers There Quite easy to spray down with Dust remover spray.There insides are well sepatated that way! Enjoy..Ps the Denon has nice extended Highs over Lux which ive owned as well..
The winner is Luxman absolutely ! Other Level ........ the sound of Denon is thin and More Innaturally bright
Denon more than like monster than luxman, but i think denon most value for money than one
15 years and 1000 euros separate its two devices...Denon is a great competitor for is age. If youy want compare sound tuning do it with the 2500NE, same generation of sound tuning and same range of price
Luxman sounds more analog but bass is so strong ... Denon sounds very ,, digital '''.
The PMA-2000IV-R is old model. You must compare this Luxman with the new models from Denon, the PMA 2020ae or PMA 2500ne. Luxman is over priced. Yamaha a s2100 is also very good choice.
Denon PMA 2500ne excellent
But the Yamaha S2100 is too sonorous and bright.
Luxman yeeeeeaaaah
I dont like the sound signature of the Luxman. Somehow muddy and boomy. Denon much more clearly. But that is my opinion.
Denon sound's more crisp, clear sweet.
Luxman is obviously better in resolution and lower distortion. Neither is particularly to my tastes. Prefer a smoother and fuller presentation. Can't see Lux being a good match to B&W diamond series. A lot of people match with Harbeth speakers which are pretty much the opposite presentation. May be nicer with Lintons at reasonable price or the new Wharfedale Evo series.
To make a fair opinion, you need to own both and test them with several kinds of music. But just hearing from here, with all the limitations... I enjoy more the highs of the Denon.
Denon better for me.
DENON THE BEST
they both sound wonderful through my 20 dollar computer speakers
Luxman 😎
Luxman digs a lot more in bass definition.
I was expecting the Luxman to blow away the Denon. But i actually, and surprisingly, think the Denon sounds a little better. A lot cheaper too.
Denon 👍🏻
Prefer the denon for some reason
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luxman sound best
Denon best for me
To me luxman better than denon by quite a large margin. The overall sound more substantial & plays lower. The denon has a midrange glare that i personally don’t like. That plus a lack of body to the sound will lead to fatigue very quickly. The luxman also sound more polished & alot quieter overall.
Luxman,more accurate, linear, Denon sound hollow and bright
The difference between fresh milk and pasteurized milk............one is alive , the other is sterile..
Luxman is a lot nicer. Next you need to look at an R2R dac. You can "kind of" hear that the dac is holding the Luxman back.
Clearly denon is the winner. Denon have controlled bass and bright highs. If you are selling your denon iam ready to take it :-)
Got a bargain last week on one in silver Immaculate Condition with original box all accessories, manuals and remote for 125 couldn't believe it! Sounds LUSH!
Synergy with those speakers and Luxman is better
Luxman tone!
Luxman better
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