I like the idea of the led light built in the opener but what happens when the light fails (and led lights do fail). It be better if it allowed bulb replacement
lol I actually cannot stand that! Every unboxing RUclipsr ever seems to handle and crinkle the packaging so excessively for the sound, it triggers my misophonia 😅
Problem with built in light is your shining the light up in the corner of your garage above the garage door (basically everywhere you don’t need light), an additional accessory allows you to put the light where you want it or need it.
I'm interested to see how this machine performs in the long run. I'm one of those who has had a bad experience with Guardian. I've had 2 broken belts and 3 board failures (all the GDS labeled machines), so it makes me very leery of Guardian as a whole. They do come up with some cool features though, like Bluetooth speakers integrated into the power head, the backup battery with a light bar (considering no one else has operator lights when mains power is out), and I agree with you on this built in light. But, as an OHD tech, I like that our safety beams don't have permanently attached wires - I find that to be a failure point with LMs and Linears. I like that our side mount can work all door types without a cable tension monitor. I like not having to run wire for a wall console (especially when the garage was pre wired for a trolley motor). I think Guardian is on the right path, but I think it's going to take more time, and a better feature set than just an internal light, to win dealers over. But I've already seen some LM dealers looking for better options with how LMs quality and retail vs dealer pricing have gone recently, so maybe this could be a persuasive enough machine to make them choose Guardian. I hope this is a sign of Guardian's improvement, because competition in our residential operator market is always a good thing. This is a very well made video!
Thanks for some specific, helpful observations. I've felt like I've been out-in-the-wilderness with my complaints re: my Guardian ceiling-mount motor and sensor system - which has caused me nothing but aggravation for several years. So to read similar problems, especially experienced by someone working in the industry, has been uplifting (no pun intended). I'm getting a new Premium Clopay partly insulated door put up in a few days, so I'm researching which new motor to have installed at the same time. So your comments were timely and I agree that it will take more than "...just an internal light, to win new dealers over. But...I hope this is a sign of Guardian's improvement, because competition in our residential operator market is always a good thing."
@@ttaylor5847 My recommendations are Genie, Overhead Door, Linear, Marantec, and Sommer. I used to have LiftMaster on that list, but they’ve been plagued with various issues over the last year or so. I just took out one of LM’s side mounted motors that we installed a couple months ago due to electronics issues.
Agree, it doesn’t matter how many cool features an opener has if it craps out on the one function is was bought to do, open the garage door. Reliability is a huge factor.
Strongly disagree with the built-in light as an advantage. In my shop, a light at the opener would be nearly worthless and with the Genie, I was able to locate the remote led light over a man-door where it would provide the most useful light for my needs. Cost wise, how does it compare to the LM and Genie units? Is there battery backup available?
Thanks for your feedback. I can see your argument. If Guardian can offer an additional fixture to pair with the motor, then it might be a solution. As for the price, it's on par with the LiftMaster. Respectively $600 plus tax and installation. And it can come with a battery back up.
Thank you for making a video on this 928. I remember a few weeks ago I asked you about it and you delivered! So thank you for this. I ended up buying the Genie wall mounted opener since there wasn't any reviews on this 928. But with that said, would the Genie still be your go to choice or has this 928 earned that top spot for the wall mounted openers?
Yes, I'd like to know too. The price is so high though. I may bet a guardsman 928 version at Menards. They have one with battery, wifi, and keyless pad for 389 vs 600 plus for the new liftmaster. I have a 8500 but don't like the way the unit jumps in speed causing loose cables momentarily.
I agree. I just installed the Genie and although the ceiling light is working fine now, if it fails, it's a $120 bill to replace it! I'd rather just replace a couple of LED bulbs! (I'd also like to be able to make it brighter, which I could do with bigger bulbs in my ceiling mounted opener)
Thank you for the feedback! I am working and updated to offer more perspective on this opener. I hope it can highlight some of the value this model provides.
Hello, great videos. I have a question. I don’t have much room on the sides of the garage doors. Out of the 4 jackshaft openers you’ve reviewed (guardian, genie, chamberlain and lift master. Which one is the most narrow or requires the least side clearance.
Hello. Thank you for the comment! Guardian has included the option to omit the cable tension monitor. So they are on par with both Genie and LiftMaster.
A private label version is sold in a big box retailer, Menards, under Menards private label Masterforce. Menards has 384 locations across the Midwest to the East in West Virginia and Wyoming West. They sell it on a rebate under $382.69 with a regular retail price of $429.00. Menards is known for having the lowest pricing on materials being privately owned.
@@shawnkfoster Yes, I sold Menards for 34 years. Their Masterforce units are the Guardian brand but privately labeled for Menards if you want to compare. GDO opener business is very competitive. Lift Master/Chamberlain has most of the market, followed by Genie and Linear, a great product.
Great to know, thank you! I'm having a hard time finding info on the Masterforce opener so I can only assume I'll have a hard time with warranty and parts. Not sure if it'd be worth it... Thoughts?
You should be good with the Masterforce product. The warranty is the same if it were through Guardian. I don't the experience is much better thru LiftMaster.
@@sosgds what's your opinion on a wall mounted opener? Genie, liftmaster or this? About $450 for the genie, $500 for the liftmaster, and $380 for the Masterforce. All with backup battery. I have a brand new house that does not have an opener at all and I think it is worth the extra premium for the wall mount because I can install it myself easily. Thoughts?
Can you please hire a professional director and script writer? You are trying to provide valuable information, but the videos just have too much wasted space fillers like zooming in on styrofoam and many others. After watching about 5 of your videos, i find that I am trying to avoid them because of your onscreen persona. You will benefit greatly from some professional help to polish them up.
@@davebyrne5030 You, I gave a valid and reasonable suggestion. Grow up! Not all feedback is always positive. This is not kindergarten . If you think your videos are perfect, think again.
I like the idea of the led light built in the opener but what happens when the light fails (and led lights do fail). It be better if it allowed bulb replacement
I love the extra taps on the pieces during the unboxing. Oddly satisfying.
lol I actually cannot stand that! Every unboxing RUclipsr ever seems to handle and crinkle the packaging so excessively for the sound, it triggers my misophonia 😅
Problem with built in light is your shining the light up in the corner of your garage above the garage door (basically everywhere you don’t need light), an additional accessory allows you to put the light where you want it or need it.
Yup. Great when the door is down but once up, you'll see nothing.
you really like the light.
I'm interested to see how this machine performs in the long run. I'm one of those who has had a bad experience with Guardian. I've had 2 broken belts and 3 board failures (all the GDS labeled machines), so it makes me very leery of Guardian as a whole. They do come up with some cool features though, like Bluetooth speakers integrated into the power head, the backup battery with a light bar (considering no one else has operator lights when mains power is out), and I agree with you on this built in light. But, as an OHD tech, I like that our safety beams don't have permanently attached wires - I find that to be a failure point with LMs and Linears. I like that our side mount can work all door types without a cable tension monitor. I like not having to run wire for a wall console (especially when the garage was pre wired for a trolley motor). I think Guardian is on the right path, but I think it's going to take more time, and a better feature set than just an internal light, to win dealers over. But I've already seen some LM dealers looking for better options with how LMs quality and retail vs dealer pricing have gone recently, so maybe this could be a persuasive enough machine to make them choose Guardian.
I hope this is a sign of Guardian's improvement, because competition in our residential operator market is always a good thing.
This is a very well made video!
Thanks for some specific, helpful observations. I've felt like I've been out-in-the-wilderness with my complaints re: my Guardian ceiling-mount motor and sensor system - which has caused me nothing but aggravation for several years. So to read similar problems, especially experienced by someone working in the industry, has been uplifting (no pun intended). I'm getting a new Premium Clopay partly insulated door put up in a few days, so I'm researching which new motor to have installed at the same time. So your comments were timely and I agree that it will take more than "...just an internal light, to win new dealers over. But...I hope this is a sign of Guardian's improvement, because competition in our residential operator market is always a good thing."
@@ttaylor5847 My recommendations are Genie, Overhead Door, Linear, Marantec, and Sommer. I used to have LiftMaster on that list, but they’ve been plagued with various issues over the last year or so. I just took out one of LM’s side mounted motors that we installed a couple months ago due to electronics issues.
Agree, it doesn’t matter how many cool features an opener has if it craps out on the one function is was bought to do, open the garage door. Reliability is a huge factor.
These are at this time $359.00 at Menards under Masterforce name and 5 year warranty. Sounds pretty good.
Strongly disagree with the built-in light as an advantage. In my shop, a light at the opener would be nearly worthless and with the Genie, I was able to locate the remote led light over a man-door where it would provide the most useful light for my needs.
Cost wise, how does it compare to the LM and Genie units? Is there battery backup available?
Thanks for your feedback. I can see your argument. If Guardian can offer an additional fixture to pair with the motor, then it might be a solution.
As for the price, it's on par with the LiftMaster. Respectively $600 plus tax and installation. And it can come with a battery back up.
can a beamup Thunderbolt BU950V3 Jackshaft Smart Garage Door Opener be programmed to automatically close after a time delay
Great question. Unfortunately the timer to close feature is not offered with this opener.
Great video! Got me thinking about getting one. 👍🏼
Thank you my friend! You should try it!
Thank you for making a video on this 928. I remember a few weeks ago I asked you about it and you delivered! So thank you for this.
I ended up buying the Genie wall mounted opener since there wasn't any reviews on this 928. But with that said, would the Genie still be your go to choice or has this 928 earned that top spot for the wall mounted openers?
For a brand new, higher end garage door, that is quite noisy. My insulated Clopay two car with Chamberlain side mount, you can barely hear it.
What’s your opinion on the new Liftmaster 98022 jackshaft compared to the 8500W we are all used to seeing?
Yes, I'd like to know too. The price is so high though. I may bet a guardsman 928 version at Menards. They have one with battery, wifi, and keyless pad for 389 vs 600 plus for the new liftmaster. I have a 8500 but don't like the way the unit jumps in speed causing loose cables momentarily.
I like the idea of a built-in light but seems like it could blind you when facing it, especially when going into a dark garage.
I agree. I just installed the Genie and although the ceiling light is working fine now, if it fails, it's a $120 bill to replace it! I'd rather just replace a couple of LED bulbs! (I'd also like to be able to make it brighter, which I could do with bigger bulbs in my ceiling mounted opener)
Put paper over it ti diffuse the light to your liking.
Can this garage door opener handle or meant for a two door garage door 16ft wide
Yes. This model works for standard doors and doors with high lift.
Would love for you to do a sound comparison between this and the liftmaster 8500w and genie 6170
Great suggestion! I think it would be intriguing to hear the decibel level of each machine. I will get to working on it.
@@sosgds It sounds like the door itself is what's making all the noise. But I didn't listen super carefully so I could be wrong.
Actually, please add the 928 to that comparison.
great video, if the idea is to show the products value, I missed it.... I thought the box opening was the high light...
Thank you for the feedback! I am working and updated to offer more perspective on this opener. I hope it can highlight some of the value this model provides.
Can an outdoor keypad be added to this new Guardian 928 wall mount garage door opener? The video has no mention of it.
Hello. Yes it can. I just didn't have one to demonstrate it.
@@sosgds the Menards version has a keypad also.
Hello, great videos. I have a question. I don’t have much room on the sides of the garage doors. Out of the 4 jackshaft openers you’ve reviewed (guardian, genie, chamberlain and lift master. Which one is the most narrow or requires the least side clearance.
Ok I'm not gonna lie, I didn't expect to like this because Guardian, but this actually seems like something I might have to check out
Do you have an Menards where you live Andy?
Yes I do
www.menards.com/main/doors-windows-millwork/garage-doors-openers/garage-door-openers/masterforce-reg-wall-mount-garage-door-opener-with-battery-backup/24225/p-1642874271412567-c-12367.htm?tid=5dac2829-f51d-4e51-93d7-d11c93e964a0&ipos=2&exp=false
Wow that's interesting. It's certainly a lot cheaper than the Chamberlain and genie ones
How did you make that small garage door?
I had made thru Wayne Dalton.
popular size for golf course commumities
What is the size of that little door?
Hello. It's a 4 by 7 Wayne Dalton 9100 sample door. If you can contact your local WD rep he might can get you some samples.
@@sosgds that’s pretty cool! You outta show openers on it and how to fix them and stuff
Great video
Thank you!
They’re behind the curve when it comes to the tension roller. Liftmaster no longer have them on their newer models.
Hello. Thank you for the comment! Guardian has included the option to omit the cable tension monitor. So they are on par with both Genie and LiftMaster.
A private label version is sold in a big box retailer, Menards, under Menards private label Masterforce. Menards has 384 locations across the Midwest to the East in West Virginia and Wyoming West. They sell it on a rebate under $382.69 with a regular retail price of $429.00. Menards is known for having the lowest pricing on materials being privately owned.
Do you have any experience with the Menards Masterforce opener? I am looking to get a wall mounted opener and that one is the most economical.
@@shawnkfoster Yes, I sold Menards for 34 years. Their Masterforce units are the Guardian brand but privately labeled for Menards if you want to compare. GDO opener business is very competitive. Lift Master/Chamberlain has most of the market, followed by Genie and Linear, a great product.
Great to know, thank you! I'm having a hard time finding info on the Masterforce opener so I can only assume I'll have a hard time with warranty and parts. Not sure if it'd be worth it... Thoughts?
You should be good with the Masterforce product. The warranty is the same if it were through Guardian. I don't the experience is much better thru LiftMaster.
@@sosgds what's your opinion on a wall mounted opener? Genie, liftmaster or this? About $450 for the genie, $500 for the liftmaster, and $380 for the Masterforce. All with backup battery. I have a brand new house that does not have an opener at all and I think it is worth the extra premium for the wall mount because I can install it myself easily. Thoughts?
If the light is what puts this motor “ahead” of the curve, then guardian just turned the wrong way
Yes, i too like to incessantly finger tap things
This demonstration doesn't really do any good. Put in on a 16 x 8 door that weighs 500 to 600 pounds! Then let's see how it works.
So, what's your motivation for shilling this product?
i see nothing special about a led light on the motor lol you can just easy put a light on the motor if you want and led lights are cheap
Looks like a liftmaster knockoff
dam sure is
Can you please hire a professional director and script writer? You are trying to provide valuable information, but the videos just have too much wasted space fillers like zooming in on styrofoam and many others. After watching about 5 of your videos, i find that I am trying to avoid them because of your onscreen persona. You will benefit greatly from some professional help to polish them up.
🤣🤣🤣
So is it production/writing/editing, or is it the guys persona??
@robertplas3947, kind of rude. If you don't like any part of videos don't watch. Maybe your online persona could use a little work.
@@davebyrne5030 You, I gave a valid and reasonable suggestion. Grow up! Not all feedback is always positive. This is not kindergarten . If you think your videos are perfect, think again.