Hey dude, I’m just now getting back into wow after leaving during cata so I’m really glad I found your channel. Just taking my time leveling in retail and it’s been incredibly chill. Im also optimistic on the direction of the game and I hope, like you do, that it gets back to the “cool” WoW we remember. But yeah, awesome content. Looking forward to more!
I don’t usually do this or write comments but I have to say ur by far the best wow RUclipsr over ever watched u deserve millions I’m not even joking ur the best and i love ur vids😀
I guess shadowlands and WoD were the first moments that made me put off WoW for a considerably long time, but i’ve always come back to the game in some shape or form, so i guess i never lost hope in WoW, i always played Classic TBC/wrath while waiting for Dragonflight, i don’t care about the token, the boost or paid cosmetics because expecting an MMO in 2023 to not monetize that stuff is like expecting Nintendo to not charge 60 dollars for a 20 year old game.
Started playin turtle wow recently, and after seeing how much content a small team could make it really makes me sad how little effort blizz puts into classic
actualy warlors of draenor fucked it for me. but i came back in legion and played alot again:P now i have taken a break again but not because i wanted to. haha good video m8 love the workk hope u make more videos and love the work of it:) love from sweden
i agree with most of the things you've said in this. something i don't agree with is not advancing to Cataclysm Classic. There should be at least to me, a "Classic" (which is probably not the term i would use) and a "Vanilla". Vanilla being the old school style of game, Cataclysm changed the game into a different beast entirely. Classic could be a way to reuse old content for the current game. imagine a sort of reset on WoW, where you could go back and do Naxx when it was current and get the old tier 3 transmog for your retail account. i want to re-experience the game as i go through to get things like ahead of the curve, or challenge mode dungeons or whatever using the systems that were in place at the time. i don't want to just be able to blast through it now with the new talents because i have features i didn't have before. an example being the spriest Mage Tower, now with the void tendrils it feels easier then doing it back during legion.
I didn't really have a reason to quit classic wrath as an osrs player I didn't really see a problem with the wow token (obviously would rather it not be there) but the reason I have been playing classic era is honestly the community is just so chill in my experience. :)
I agree that cata doesn't fit the classic vibe, but I didn't get to experience the shift into it nor playing it when it came out, so I kinda wish we could get it as I've had tons of fun running thru vanilla to wotlk.
i lost hope when i got all my pvp gear in Cata then got all my pvp gear in MOP then had to do it again in WLOD, just grinding for the gear. ever. single. expansion.
Honestly, the points about retail mean nothing, More transmogs, more mounts, none of that will help retail much. You'll only give more useless, content-less shinnies to people who have 500 mounts and thousands of transmogs. It may help glue those for a bit longer, keep the treadmill up but it doesn't do much for the average player and nothing for new or returning players. I do like the optimism about classic, I think we can all agree its return to glory is a very good indicator of its future possibilites.
BFA had good theme and bad systems/currencies. SL was great theme for a nostalgic bait and switch into shoddy systems/currencies. DF is shoddy theme with shoddy systems/currencies that metzen won’t have any say over. Next xpac theme is TBD with shoddy systems/currencies that metzen won’t have any say over. Case closed.
Look the Token may not fight bots, but it's honestly what the Classic community deserves for breaking ToS so much and buying so much gold. This is their punishment.
I agree with you I want bad ass conflicts with the only hope for Azeroth squaring off with what ever wants to mess up the world. I hope the heroes can fight the blizz team making bad decisions with the game I grew up loving. Zug Zug
blizz died in 2016, it was blizz who were the wow killers all along, sadly & ironically (thanks bobby, and others). There is hope left, with those who left the company and are free to do new creative stuff for themselves and care about gameplay and players first, which was said word for word by one of THE biggest ex blizz name.
Yeah completely agree with all this! don't bother with cata guys just let ppl have their wotlk hype! I reckon 20 year anniversary is a good point on a "big announcement" I appreciate this vid for the hope haha
I’m playing ssf on the official server. I just have a hard core mod install. I don’t care if others aren’t 😂 in fact I get asked to tank/do group content but tell them I can’t. Surprisingly people are cool about and wish me luck. They are original hc mod players so they understand and Vice versa.😊
hot take cata was a great expac but ppl still blinded by old zones being remade. the cata raids were good. heroic dungeons where better than wraths, and reforging gear was the best thing they added to wow
Say what you want about Anduin, at least he had the decency to gtfo instead of imposing a council of soy upon his faction. Edit: You can still get the OG Scarlet Tabard. It's just a really low drop chance from Armsmaster Harlan iirc.
Wat first made me get out of WoW? Cataclysm What brought me back? Warlords of Draenor... what a mistake Dragonflight was a bit of a W though, the new talent trees are great edit: Zug zug
I disagree that we need a subjective "cool" expansion with DF features. DF is cool and your tastes aren't everyone else's. I also won't play Cata but I still think that it shouldn't be skipped. zug zug
I think vanilla arenas would be cool as heck its true vanilla has far more content than cataclysm would i thought wrath would be more popular but your right the token and in general its not as fun
More than likely not, no. Classic+ would require a full team of new talent and months of development time. I’m 99% certain Chris came back to work on retail.
Retail needs the Mod API killed. Make PvP more attractive. Don't overload the game with stuff to do (it doesn't seem to work - sometimes less is more for fun - yeah, retail can be quite unappealing on max lvl to new players, especially if the complexity is so much of a gatekeep nowadays, besides the strict requirements from other players)
Ditch Blizzard and come play private servers for a better experience. We will not see an official V+ expansion in the next few years outside of private servers.
Dont talk shit about king anduin bro! Everyone knew he wasnt the warrior his father was. Then the bfa cinematic happened, and he helped out ya boy saurfang! Lol i agree that im sick of all the emo talks, like that was anduins thing and now every character is doin it and its annoying. At least anduins emo talks were about hey saurfang i heard you were a badass, go be badass lol
@@arethoresen9127 It was a chance to show that he had grown and was more able to follow his fathers footsteps as a King. Showing he was not a little child anymore standing in his fathers shadow, but nope nope.........The Blizz story writers have been really bad for a very long time. Even as a priest he could have been stoic and cool and commanding. They could even have spun him into more like a Cleric if they had to force him as a melee char,but instead they spun him like a paladin but still a priest....blabla The stuff they do makes no sense.
Retail needs a complete overhaul . Been playing classic hc, seems the game mostly got worse over 20 years . Classic is what the game should be rpg flavor so spicy 🌶️ you need a glass of milk. Retail wow is that bland glass of room temperature milk , it’s a liquid , you can drink it , but why
I dont think cataclysm fits the wow classic vibe with the new zones and all, i rather hope they use the man power to make classic+ instead.
Classic+ is likely years away if it even happens. Blizzard will move onto Cataclysm because it’s the only option that’s feasible in the next year.
Hey dude, I’m just now getting back into wow after leaving during cata so I’m really glad I found your channel. Just taking my time leveling in retail and it’s been incredibly chill. Im also optimistic on the direction of the game and I hope, like you do, that it gets back to the “cool” WoW we remember.
But yeah, awesome content. Looking forward to more!
I really like you mate. Subbed after 3 videos.
I don’t usually do this or write comments but I have to say ur by far the best wow RUclipsr over ever watched u deserve millions I’m not even joking ur the best and i love ur vids😀
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Jesus I'm late but I'm here with your gogurt!!! I didn't forget!
I guess shadowlands and WoD were the first moments that made me put off WoW for a considerably long time, but i’ve always come back to the game in some shape or form, so i guess i never lost hope in WoW, i always played Classic TBC/wrath while waiting for Dragonflight, i don’t care about the token, the boost or paid cosmetics because expecting an MMO in 2023 to not monetize that stuff is like expecting Nintendo to not charge 60 dollars for a 20 year old game.
Started playin turtle wow recently, and after seeing how much content a small team could make it really makes me sad how little effort blizz puts into classic
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Honestly, if they made you buy Classic+ as an expansion and that would be the only form of other transacrions besides the monthly fee, I'd pay for it.
6:33 people said the same thing for classic wow...
actualy warlors of draenor fucked it for me. but i came back in legion and played alot again:P now i have taken a break again but not because i wanted to. haha good video m8 love the workk hope u make more videos and love the work of it:) love from sweden
Yep, Cata+ is just the "Road to Retail" which defeats the point of "Classic"
i agree with most of the things you've said in this. something i don't agree with is not advancing to Cataclysm Classic. There should be at least to me, a "Classic" (which is probably not the term i would use) and a "Vanilla". Vanilla being the old school style of game, Cataclysm changed the game into a different beast entirely. Classic could be a way to reuse old content for the current game. imagine a sort of reset on WoW, where you could go back and do Naxx when it was current and get the old tier 3 transmog for your retail account. i want to re-experience the game as i go through to get things like ahead of the curve, or challenge mode dungeons or whatever using the systems that were in place at the time.
i don't want to just be able to blast through it now with the new talents because i have features i didn't have before. an example being the spriest Mage Tower, now with the void tendrils it feels easier then doing it back during legion.
I just want Warlord's Deathwheel to come back.
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I didn't really have a reason to quit classic wrath as an osrs player I didn't really see a problem with the wow token (obviously would rather it not be there) but the reason I have been playing classic era is honestly the community is just so chill in my experience. :)
I agree that cata doesn't fit the classic vibe, but I didn't get to experience the shift into it nor playing it when it came out, so I kinda wish we could get it as I've had tons of fun running thru vanilla to wotlk.
i lost hope when i got all my pvp gear in Cata then got all my pvp gear in MOP then had to do it again in WLOD, just grinding for the gear. ever. single. expansion.
that’s kinda how the game has always worked..
Another video let's go 😄
It's just old now and needs a new game
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good takes
Honestly, the points about retail mean nothing, More transmogs, more mounts, none of that will help retail much. You'll only give more useless, content-less shinnies to people who have 500 mounts and thousands of transmogs. It may help glue those for a bit longer, keep the treadmill up but it doesn't do much for the average player and nothing for new or returning players. I do like the optimism about classic, I think we can all agree its return to glory is a very good indicator of its future possibilites.
BFA had good theme and bad systems/currencies. SL was great theme for a nostalgic bait and switch into shoddy systems/currencies. DF is shoddy theme with shoddy systems/currencies that metzen won’t have any say over. Next xpac theme is TBD with shoddy systems/currencies that metzen won’t have any say over. Case closed.
I lost hope when they stopped making rts games.
Wow ascension, i cant go back now hahaha.
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Look the Token may not fight bots, but it's honestly what the Classic community deserves for breaking ToS so much and buying so much gold. This is their punishment.
Old days same Way
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I have hope for WoW because I'm hopelessly addicted roflmao
Classic plus, I’m chugging that copium hard
I agree with you I want bad ass conflicts with the only hope for Azeroth squaring off with what ever wants to mess up the world. I hope the heroes can fight the blizz team making bad decisions with the game I grew up loving. Zug Zug
blizz died in 2016, it was blizz who were the wow killers all along, sadly & ironically (thanks bobby, and others). There is hope left, with those who left the company and are free to do new creative stuff for themselves and care about gameplay and players first, which was said word for word by one of THE biggest ex blizz name.
Yeah completely agree with all this! don't bother with cata guys just let ppl have their wotlk hype! I reckon 20 year anniversary is a good point on a "big announcement" I appreciate this vid for the hope haha
I never liked how varian died in legion, kinda hopping cromi will appear at the end of ICC and make you fix all the bs
wow classic is now more popular than wow retail so not sure if I can muster any more hope.
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I’m playing ssf on the official server. I just have a hard core mod install. I don’t care if others aren’t 😂 in fact I get asked to tank/do group content but tell them I can’t. Surprisingly people are cool about and wish me luck. They are original hc mod players so they understand and Vice versa.😊
hot take cata was a great expac but ppl still blinded by old zones being remade. the cata raids were good. heroic dungeons where better than wraths, and reforging gear was the best thing they added to wow
Say what you want about Anduin, at least he had the decency to gtfo instead of imposing a council of soy upon his faction.
Edit: You can still get the OG Scarlet Tabard. It's just a really low drop chance from Armsmaster Harlan iirc.
Wat first made me get out of WoW? Cataclysm
What brought me back? Warlords of Draenor... what a mistake
Dragonflight was a bit of a W though, the new talent trees are great
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Ascension is the only thing keeping WoW alive in my eyes.
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I disagree that we need a subjective "cool" expansion with DF features. DF is cool and your tastes aren't everyone else's. I also won't play Cata but I still think that it shouldn't be skipped. zug zug
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I think vanilla arenas would be cool as heck its true vanilla has far more content than cataclysm would i thought wrath would be more popular but your right the token and in general its not as fun
I bet they brought Metzen back to lead a new classic+ effort
More than likely not, no. Classic+ would require a full team of new talent and months of development time.
I’m 99% certain Chris came back to work on retail.
When garrosh died wow got lame
"classic plus so we can ruin the game all over again " XD also side note ZUG ZUG
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Retail needs the Mod API killed. Make PvP more attractive. Don't overload the game with stuff to do (it doesn't seem to work - sometimes less is more for fun - yeah, retail can be quite unappealing on max lvl to new players, especially if the complexity is so much of a gatekeep nowadays, besides the strict requirements from other players)
Ditch Blizzard and come play private servers for a better experience.
We will not see an official V+ expansion in the next few years outside of private servers.
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LOL DED GAME XD, but in all seriousness I hope they pull off classic+ somehow
the theme and feel of the game has gone downhill for sure. i hope they will go into a more serious tone etc.
Bro I'm unsubbing if you don't drop another one of these bangers soon. I'm withdrawing from how good these are bro please.
thought i could get my next hardcore vid ready in time but its taking a bit, so i got 1 more filler vid coming soon first!
@@zuggypoo No worries take your time! Good shit man I'm loving it so far keep it up and you'll be at the top in no time :) (secretly i'd never unsub)
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Bro I log in AC origins I played like three hours and I said nah that's too complicated.
Imagine now being new WoW player what you gotta say 😂
There's no hope for world of disney
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Dont talk shit about king anduin bro! Everyone knew he wasnt the warrior his father was. Then the bfa cinematic happened, and he helped out ya boy saurfang! Lol i agree that im sick of all the emo talks, like that was anduins thing and now every character is doin it and its annoying. At least anduins emo talks were about hey saurfang i heard you were a badass, go be badass lol
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This boomer game gets 0 new players, how do u expect a game to survive if the player base is dying of old age?
Just give up! There is no hope for the game! Blah blah blah blah blah...!
shadowlands it sucks so much
Game is dying.
ah yes the same words people have been saying for over 10 years now
Yes but its true this time! Ok, Im exagerating.@@zuggypoo
No King rules forever.
Chris met havent made anything good in years maybe even ever.....
ok bud👍
you know he was part of the bfa cinematic right? you cant tell me that was bad
@@arethoresen9127 You mean when they put a crying boy to lead an army.........
@@Storlans dude that has nothing to do with the cinematic, anduin was established as a cryboy priest long before bfa
@@arethoresen9127 It was a chance to show that he had grown and was more able to follow his fathers footsteps as a King. Showing he was not a little child anymore standing in his fathers shadow, but nope nope.........The Blizz story writers have been really bad for a very long time.
Even as a priest he could have been stoic and cool and commanding. They could even have spun him into more like a Cleric if they had to force him as a melee char,but instead they spun him like a paladin but still a priest....blabla The stuff they do makes no sense.
Retail needs a complete overhaul . Been playing classic hc, seems the game mostly got worse over 20 years . Classic is what the game should be rpg flavor so spicy 🌶️ you need a glass of milk. Retail wow is that bland glass of room temperature milk , it’s a liquid , you can drink it , but why
Wow ascension, i cant go back now hahaha.
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