I'm glad I found and bought the spydiechef. Even though it is cheaper, the chef is still quite a bit of an asking price, but for that money I have received a knife that does literally everything I want it to do, makes me smile every time I use it, and makes me not want to buy any more pocket knives because it does everything I want well enough that I don't yearn for anything more.
Honestly I just can't imagine a better pocket knife than the Chef. I can find so many reasons to carry it. I also own the Slysz Bowie and I'll carry the Chef every day over it. Superior fit and finish does not make a better pocket knife.
LC200 is much tougher steel than s90v. You are correct, s90v is harder to machine and finish due to its high wear resistance, where it excels over many other steels, lc200 including, but as many other steels with high carbide content, s90v is brittle (opposite to tough).
The first spydie chef went for $169ish without the ceramic detent ball. I sold that for the $215 upgraded CQI version. I still think the Chef is the better deal over the drunken overall.
Excellent video with well thought out discussion about each knife and their respective price points. I own both plus the Subvert and must say I like where Spyderco is going as well.
As a Spydiechef owner, I can say it’s an exceptional knife, but rather plain in its design and execution. Based on all I have seen and read, by comparison the pricing of the Drunken seems justified. I really want to test drive one and see if I personally love it enough to purchase. Good to see you commenting on a few production pieces again!
I sold my Spydiechef because it was a bit too plain for my taste, I decided to try the Drunken, it's unbelievable man, so smooth, designed so gorgeously, it's definitely worth checking out.
Super excited. I got a pimped out Spydiechef done by Esteban, Just snagged a Drunken from a blade member. Can't wait till Monday! How are you liking the Paysan? The chef if by far one of my favorite knives, the blade shape really does it for me. I do a lot of food prep with it, but its just a beast all around. The Krein regrind ones are really a lazer for food prep.
I have the CQI version of the SpydieChef and absolutely think it's worth the price! Maybe some day I'll have a Drunken to call my own. My beef with the people sniveling about some of these prices is their lack of understanding in regards to how the money is split from the purchase of a single knife. There is the retail price that is basically fixed by the maker who has to pay royalties to the designer as well as the material and manufacturing costs associated including shipping and applicable taxes from governments. So they have to price things so they can make a profit too!
I almost vomited when you brought out the subvert, but then you brought out the paysan and spoke truth about anti xenophobia. I'm glad I'm not the only one out there speaking against it. Good job.
I have both The Spydiechef and the a Slysz Bowie and I do understand cost to manufacture..to me a better comparison would be the Sinkevich Drunken and the ZT 0456 Ti..they look closer to each other..really cool milling..yes?
Great comparison. Thanks. I haven't held the Paysan or the Drunen. From the pictures I've seen I can see why they likely cost what they do. I would likely be more convinced if I held them given my experience with other more costly Spydies. They both appear to have an excellent level of detail work. I'd have to hold them to see how good the fit and finish are.
The SpydieChef is, by far, one of the best most-functional knives I've ever owned, that thing just keeps on keeping on no matter what I throw at it, even living on the beach with the salt water and sand. The Drunken just does nothing for me personally, nothing specific buts its not grabbed me enough to put down that kind of money.
I had a SpydieChef a number of years ago and got one again to give it a go again....and will probably sell it...again. Ultimately I think the SpydiChef just has too much belly for me and though proposed as a culinary tool, while I think it would work just fine, I still appreciate slightly straighter blade to handle alignments. Perhaps the Drunken would be a good choice...but alas, I have so many knives and the fact that I spend most of my days making chef knives, I almost never even carry a knife anymore, but do enjoy Spyderco as the hole opener is my favorite and have been collecting once again for fun....so checking some reviews. I think the Kapara is a Magnificent design and probably outshines either of these knife in actual practical use.....just my idea. I may do a review on the Kapara vs. the SpydieChef.....but I am sure it's been done already. Anyhow, thanks for the post.....I get around to checking these knives SO Long after they came out;)
I had a chef. I love all the Slysz designs. I’m gonna get the chef 2. I saw a prototype and it’s much more practical in my opinion. I’m not sure this model would have been so successful if it wasn’t for the steel. That’s what I loved about it.
I totally agree that the price is justified & something you didn't mention is the royalty payments to the fabulous designers who deserve a decent payday for their intellectual property! I hope to have a Drunken soon, I have two SpydieChef's already (an original version & the Knife Joy excl.).
Also...do you have an inside on that info. I’ve been trying to find a spydiechef for some time now. Why in the hell would they discontinue such a great knife. I don’t get it.
I’ve envious of your spyderco collection. Good for you. The amount of time in that drunken justifies the price. My most expensive knife is an Anthem but I understood the price difference immediately when I compared the mini grip to the 940-1 to the anthem (purchased in that order).
Any idea why spyderco makes all their super knives with s90 instead of s110? They make a whole line of blurple knives and they don’t do that with s90. It makes it feel like spyderco has plenty of s110v lying around, but doesn’t want to use it on it’s best stuff... thoughts?
Michal Galovič weird. I feel like there was a video where ApostleP actually said he liked s110v better and said it was actually less chippy. I could always be mistaken. I don’t feel like researching before making a reply lol
I'm a bit on the opposite side of the spectrum, I guess. I own no Spyderco's, but I would probably get my hands on a Drunken once there will be third party deepcarry (MXG) pocketclip available for it. Even despite a single Drunken costing 475€ over here.
One thing to note: If you’re talking about material properties, LC200N is a significantly tougher steel than S90V. In my opinion, it’s also a superior and much-preferable knife steel overall, but that depends on what you’re looking for.
To me it is like a Porche 911 vs a 911 GT3 RS. Both are great cars, both do basically the same thing, and both look similar. However, once you look under the hood that is where the differences become evident.
I bet when you're getting ready for an operation and open a new scalpel, look at it up close and think "hmm, is this thin enough behind the edge? I wonder what steel this is? I bet ??? steel would be more efficient on these scalpels." Lol. I'm not sure if you're a surgeon or not but it's fun to imagine this.
were going to see alot of ignorant people saying your wrong. i seen it in every spyderco video. they say people are on Sal's nuts. and say all spydercos are rip off's etc. its hilarious these idiots come to these conclusions. and most of the time they spend no more than $30 on knives.
My first 4 knives were all a Spydercos and after forcing myself to branch out I still think Spyderco is just as impressive and honestly the sharpest out of the box in their price range I would say, even my tenacious came hair shaving
I hope the Chef is still in production! Perhaps with all the different Taichung models in the Spyderco catalogue, production is strained and it’s taking them a while to get to the next run.
Folks who cite " made in Taiwan" as a negative are clueless. Some of the best steel/blades come from the Orient(i.e.Seki City).I have both examples due to my sickness for modified sheepfoot blades. I like the bigger belly on the Chef as well as grip and I prefer the additional workmanship and character pertaining to the Drunken.Check out the Stovepipe if you haven't already.I've really taken a liking to mine.👍
Spydiechef not discontinued. You may be thinking of the Slysz Bowie.
I literally just ripped my earbuds out and was like what the hell, they discontinued the Spydiechef, one of their most popular models?!
I must have gotten bad info. Sorry.
I'm glad I found and bought the spydiechef. Even though it is cheaper, the chef is still quite a bit of an asking price, but for that money I have received a knife that does literally everything I want it to do, makes me smile every time I use it, and makes me not want to buy any more pocket knives because it does everything I want well enough that I don't yearn for anything more.
Honestly I just can't imagine a better pocket knife than the Chef. I can find so many reasons to carry it. I also own the Slysz Bowie and I'll carry the Chef every day over it. Superior fit and finish does not make a better pocket knife.
I prefer the Chef.
Very good Vid. I have both and I like them for what they are. love the simplicity of one and the attention to detail on the Drunkin. Thank you.
LC200 is much tougher steel than s90v. You are correct, s90v is harder to machine and finish due to its high wear resistance, where it excels over many other steels, lc200 including, but as many other steels with high carbide content, s90v is brittle (opposite to tough).
Great video, totally agree. If you want the flare but also something usable, it seems like a good choice. If not, the chef is fantastic
The BTE thickness measurements are really useful.
The first spydie chef went for $169ish without the ceramic detent ball. I sold that for the $215 upgraded CQI version. I still think the Chef is the better deal over the drunken overall.
Absolutely
Agreed, I too have the spydiechef and it is fantastic!!!
Excellent video with well thought out discussion about each knife and their respective price points. I own both plus the Subvert and must say I like where Spyderco is going as well.
Good video, but I don't think it's discontinued 🤷🏽♂️👊🏽🗡
IT'S ME I thought the same thing, and I think you’re right, but they’re usually out of stock everywhere.
Not discontinued
As a Spydiechef owner, I can say it’s an exceptional knife, but rather plain in its design and execution. Based on all I have seen and read, by comparison the pricing of the Drunken seems justified. I really want to test drive one and see if I personally love it enough to purchase.
Good to see you commenting on a few production pieces again!
I sold my Spydiechef because it was a bit too plain for my taste, I decided to try the Drunken, it's unbelievable man, so smooth, designed so gorgeously, it's definitely worth checking out.
I feel like I need to own both! Very cool knives!
These are two of my favorites from spyderco
Super excited. I got a pimped out Spydiechef done by Esteban, Just snagged a Drunken from a blade member. Can't wait till Monday! How are you liking the Paysan? The chef if by far one of my favorite knives, the blade shape really does it for me. I do a lot of food prep with it, but its just a beast all around. The Krein regrind ones are really a lazer for food prep.
At least the drunken doesn't have an effing wire clip...
I have the CQI version of the SpydieChef and absolutely think it's worth the price! Maybe some day I'll have a Drunken to call my own.
My beef with the people sniveling about some of these prices is their lack of understanding in regards to how the money is split from the purchase of a single knife.
There is the retail price that is basically fixed by the maker who has to pay royalties to the designer as well as the material and manufacturing costs associated including shipping and applicable taxes from governments. So they have to price things so they can make a profit too!
Where can I find the Drunken for $410.00?
The spydiechef allows you to keep your knuckles out of the way. So you can use the belly of the knife easier. Perfect for a cutting board.
I almost vomited when you brought out the subvert, but then you brought out the paysan and spoke truth about anti xenophobia. I'm glad I'm not the only one out there speaking against it. Good job.
I have both The Spydiechef and the a Slysz Bowie and I do understand cost to manufacture..to me a better comparison would be the Sinkevich Drunken and the ZT 0456 Ti..they look closer to each other..really cool milling..yes?
Great comparison. Thanks. I haven't held the Paysan or the Drunen. From the pictures I've seen I can see why they likely cost what they do. I would likely be more convinced if I held them given my experience with other more costly Spydies. They both appear to have an excellent level of detail work. I'd have to hold them to see how good the fit and finish are.
The SpydieChef is, by far, one of the best most-functional knives I've ever owned, that thing just keeps on keeping on no matter what I throw at it, even living on the beach with the salt water and sand.
The Drunken just does nothing for me personally, nothing specific buts its not grabbed me enough to put down that kind of money.
Yeah it just seems like they did a bunch of unnecessary crap on the Drunken to make it uglier and less useful.
I had a SpydieChef a number of years ago and got one again to give it a go again....and will probably sell it...again. Ultimately I think the SpydiChef just has too much belly for me and though proposed as a culinary tool, while I think it would work just fine, I still appreciate slightly straighter blade to handle alignments. Perhaps the Drunken would be a good choice...but alas, I have so many knives and the fact that I spend most of my days making chef knives, I almost never even carry a knife anymore, but do enjoy Spyderco as the hole opener is my favorite and have been collecting once again for fun....so checking some reviews. I think the Kapara is a Magnificent design and probably outshines either of these knife in actual practical use.....just my idea. I may do a review on the Kapara vs. the SpydieChef.....but I am sure it's been done already. Anyhow, thanks for the post.....I get around to checking these knives SO Long after they came out;)
I want them all. Great video.
I had a chef. I love all the Slysz designs. I’m gonna get the chef 2. I saw a prototype and it’s much more practical in my opinion. I’m not sure this model would have been so successful if it wasn’t for the steel. That’s what I loved about it.
Matthew Forrest chef 2? Is there a link or video of that somewhere?
Mason Ball it’s a prototype. It’s Marci. Slysz Instagram.
Matthew Forrest thanks.
I totally agree that the price is justified & something you didn't mention is the royalty payments to the fabulous designers who deserve a decent payday for their intellectual property! I hope to have a Drunken soon, I have two SpydieChef's already (an original version & the Knife Joy excl.).
Also...do you have an inside on that info. I’ve been trying to find a spydiechef for some time now. Why in the hell would they discontinue such a great knife. I don’t get it.
Just got the chef in blue from knifejoy. 👌
I’ve envious of your spyderco collection. Good for you. The amount of time in that drunken justifies the price. My most expensive knife is an Anthem but I understood the price difference immediately when I compared the mini grip to the 940-1 to the anthem (purchased in that order).
Well it ain't 525 no more.
Great video, I was wondering the same thing.
Any idea why spyderco makes all their super knives with s90 instead of s110? They make a whole line of blurple knives and they don’t do that with s90. It makes it feel like spyderco has plenty of s110v lying around, but doesn’t want to use it on it’s best stuff... thoughts?
S90V is more suitable for pocket knives. S110V can chip more easily than S90V and the edge retention is not that much better.
Michal Galovič weird. I feel like there was a video where ApostleP actually said he liked s110v better and said it was actually less chippy. I could always be mistaken. I don’t feel like researching before making a reply lol
@@seaferg5072 if he said this he was wrong. Unusual thing but it can happen to the best of em.
S90V is tougher. I really dont know.
So are these great knives for the operating table???????
Excellent!!
Great review...thanks.
Man that spydiechef is a beautiful knife
Hi,
I see a strong influence of Rock Lobster by Jens Anso on both knives.
...even the maker's marks are practically identical (let's call it "homage")
“The xenophobia in that comment alone is very troubling”
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The spydiechef spydieflics just fine! 🙂
good review, enjoyed it, tq
I think their price is justified, if we look at other offering on the market in the same build quality.
I own a spydie chef as well as a spydie bowie. A Drunken will not show on my list.
I'm a bit on the opposite side of the spectrum, I guess. I own no Spyderco's, but I would probably get my hands on a Drunken once there will be third party deepcarry (MXG) pocketclip available for it. Even despite a single Drunken costing 475€ over here.
One thing to note:
If you’re talking about material properties, LC200N is a significantly tougher steel than S90V.
In my opinion, it’s also a superior and much-preferable knife steel overall, but that depends on what you’re looking for.
To me it is like a Porche 911 vs a 911 GT3 RS. Both are great cars, both do basically the same thing, and both look similar. However, once you look under the hood that is where the differences become evident.
Yes, this
I bet when you're getting ready for an operation and open a new scalpel, look at it up close and think "hmm, is this thin enough behind the edge? I wonder what steel this is? I bet ??? steel would be more efficient on these scalpels." Lol. I'm not sure if you're a surgeon or not but it's fun to imagine this.
were going to see alot of ignorant people saying your wrong. i seen it in every spyderco video. they say people are on Sal's nuts. and say all spydercos are rip off's etc. its hilarious these idiots come to these conclusions. and most of the time they spend no more than $30 on knives.
They are all RIP off... i only own a ganzo. Better knife better blade better price.. 😂😂🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@Keith_the_knife_freak lolol
@@Keith_the_knife_freak LOL bro you kill me, I hope everyone understands your humor
@@DoctorFrunkey they probably don't 🥺🥺🥺🥺😥😥😥😥😥
My first 4 knives were all a Spydercos and after forcing myself to branch out I still think Spyderco is just as impressive and honestly the sharpest out of the box in their price range I would say, even my tenacious came hair shaving
I prefer the spydie chef do wish it had the drunkens pivot screw.
Maybe you should leave them alone together with a bottle of wine 😂
0.0195 thinnest you ever tested? thats insane its not even thin its spyderco pm2 thick.
Drunken msrp is $770 today
The drunken looks 1/2 spyderco 1/2 ZT
The SpydieChef is discontinued? I haven’t heard that.
Sharp Grail I hope not! I’ve been trying to get one forever.
Mason Ball I think he confused the SpydieChef with the Slysz Bowie.
I hope the Chef is still in production! Perhaps with all the different Taichung models in the Spyderco catalogue, production is strained and it’s taking them a while to get to the next run.
Bad info. Sorry.
They both have holes in the blade.
Indeed
I'd give you 200 dollars in a heartbeat but sadly they are unavailable everywhere and selling on ebay for about as much as the drunken lol
Great video
I have to go with the Drunken
You know how I use my knives and the Drunken is better suited for my use.
Spydie chef isn’t discontinued lol
They just havent made a new batch in a long time.
I thought it was. Sorry for the inaccuracy. They are not easy to find.
Folks who cite " made in Taiwan" as a negative are clueless. Some of the best steel/blades come from the Orient(i.e.Seki City).I have both examples due to my sickness for modified sheepfoot blades. I like the bigger belly on the Chef as well as grip and I prefer the additional workmanship and character pertaining to the Drunken.Check out the Stovepipe if you haven't already.I've really taken a liking to mine.👍
SpydieChef 🙂👍🇵🇱
Marcin Słysz from Poland
A knife is made to cut stuff, that's all. I like knives, but I like saving money more for the future. retirement and emergencies, so why pay more.
That is sort of like asking why pay to get a Lexus over a Toyota.
Dude did someone hit you in the head?
Oh you’re one of those “phobia” guys! I’m out!