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Thanks Mel, it’s good that we can learn from each other and that we can be open enough to admit our mistakes. We all make them. I made one last week, easily fixed fortunately but cost me $A65. Your info about all loads being connected on the correct side of the shunt is very useful.
Thanks for the video, victron instructions not clear on how to connect, I was scratching my head wondering how to connect the negative to ground. Thanks, now makes sense.
Hi Mel, been following you for a while now, great content in your videos. You’ll always gain loads of respect in the fact you don’t take criticism personally. Your learning curve is the benefit to all. Well done👍
Mel, your channel is awesome! Top marks for accepting you made an error and thanking your subs for pointing it out. Not so long ago, I (and others) pointed out a wiring error to a well known 'masterclass' youtuber and our comments were deleted.
Funny you should say that, I made a comment about a well known 'tubers' wiring, and he completely denied there was an issue. I have also pointed out where he was factually wrong, and been blanked. He has such a reputation for 'perfection' and is used as a reference source by so many, that his attitude really stinks, and Mel in comparison is a breath of fresh air!
@@PhilPassmore Totally agree. If he hadn't labelled his tutorial a 'masterclass' I'd probably have not commented. I've not watched a video of his since. On the other hand, Mel's humility and honesty, puts him head and shoulders above the self appointed so called experts!
It may be worth naming the channel, although it is not something you would normally do. I have trouble getting my head around electrics and it is the kind of thing I would watch to try and educate myself. I would hate to be getting the wrong information. Electrics can be dangerous
@@alanthompson9956 Hi Alan, I am reluctant to do so here, as the tuber concerned in my comment may have a good relationship with Mel, and using Mel's channel to name them seems a bit wrong. If you want to drop me an email to jtalain60@gmail.com I will do it in private.
Give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling when like minded folk are able to point out from there experience where we are going down the wrong road..... Keep up the great work Mel !!
@@BigVanSmallWorld Well I never thought is was offensive or controversial..... I think the 'for dummies' is very widely used and in what would be considered the public domain so to speak . With 17k subs you've got to piss someone off what ever you do or say. Guess there's not too many wokey snowflakes interested in van conversions...... ha !
Nice one Mel, shows we can all make mistakes and learn from them. By pointing out your own coc...... Error... you make yourself infinitely more credible. Well done matey.
Hi Mel , another great informative video, so just to be clear, the earth ground cable you would normally have from your leisure battery going to the chassis now comes from the P- (opposite end) of the shunt. There's no need to have an earth cable directly from the battery. I'm fitting the victron orion b2b non isolated in my vw t5.1 build so according to what you say I should run the earth/ground cable from the b2b to the P- (other end) of the shunt along with all other negatives, ie fuse box, inverter fridge (where my positive is direct to the battery via a fuse) and my diesel heater, same as the fridge and my 240v battery charger. Hope that makes sense. Cheers Mel
An alternative to the isolator is to put in an over-current breaker. Adds a layer of protection at the same time as giving you a convenient shut off point.
this is about the 10th video ive watched and the first one that made it clear what i have to do ..THANK YOU ...tho this is totally different to the diagram on the back of my battery meter
Hi Mel, sorry me again with another question, I've got the Ring b2b in my other van I use and have a battery monitor with a shunt (Aili monitor) should I have the negative from the ring unit going to the P- (other end) of the shunt? I'm thinking yes as you and a few others I've watched emphasise All negatives must go to the other side from B- on the shunt to get an accurate picture of whats coming and going to your leisure battery, thanks again Bob
Great video. I would have put the switch between the fuse and the inverter positive terminal. Then run the fuse holder to the positive on the inverter. That way the switch would turn all power off? ATM you would get drainage from your inverter being connected all the time? but I guess you always have appliances connected and running.
Oh my goodness me that’s brilliant I’m so pleased I made this video just knowing it helped someone makes it all worthwhile thank you for letting me know really appreciate it good luck 👍😊👍
I would be more than happy with you wiring my van. At the end of the day I can count a few things I got wrong on my build. Luckily I'm learning fast 😂. Iv still to wire up my RC 30 DC to DC 😅. I would like you to see what I have done so far. I got everything on the lounge floor. It's a bit like a mock up😂. Between you and Gregs tuition, I should not blow myself up. 👌
Another great and informative video, Mel. Would love to hear you talk about the benefits of the shunt and show us the app. I'm thinking about getting one but I'm not sure.
Add a bus bar to the shunt (output) to tidy up/make easier termination rather than have lots under the massive bolt. The eyelets needed are huge on the Victron shunt.
Thank you yes they are lucky that’s all the negatives I’ll be needing to fit to the shunt the rest can go the the fuse box bus bar thanks for the tip though 👍😊👍
There is no such thing as an error, just learning opportunities you are kind enough to share with us. There are two kinds of people when it comes to wiring in a Victron BMV; those who have learned about this the hard way, and those who have yet to do so - welcome to my side of the divide 🤐
Hi Mel I've just ordered the Victron Smart Shunt. How would I connect the Negative from my van load to the shunt as it has a battery terminal connector on it that normally goes over an M8 battery stud?
@@BigVanSmallWorld No problem, I've sorted it, I cut off the round battery terminal connector on the Autotrail wiring loom and crimped and heat shrinked an M10 eyelet on to it to fit onto the shunt and all working fine 👍
Hi thank you for taking the time to comment it’s hard to explain where I connected the negative so I’ll show you next Wednesdays waffle video won’t be tomorrow it will be next week hope this helps
Mell Iv a question on this Iv got a sterling 60amp battery to battery charger and I need to put the battery monitor on the earth of my leisure batteries to monitor the temperature so the charger can work according to the battery temperature !! But your saying nothing should be connected to the earth post on the battery only the shunt. Any advice on this m8
thanks mel i always learn more from my mistakes as well. i didnt think of simply turning your terminal block upside down to get cleaner cable runs, simple but effective. also didnt know i could just take two house leisure batteries and connect in parallel ,get more residual capacity of amp hours. where do you read the charge/discharge of amps in/out?separate meter somewhere? i understand citron shows this on a bluetooth app now. john
That’s a great question I’m really not sure but I’m thinking probably not as the Ctek is a self contained unit and the power outlet from this unit will go though the shunt 👍
Going off the subject a bit have you ever looked at the Bobil vans water heater system to piggyback onto your existing diesel heater. Looks like a really good idea to provide hot water to your van ?
Mel, I thought this had cleared it up for me re fitting the shunt, it has I think but it’s confused me with something else. I thought that if you had your charge going into positive on battery 1 you took it from the positive on the battery 2 and the charge went to negative on battery 2 and you took it from negative on battery 1,if you know what I mean. You have your charger going to the positive and the fuse box wired to the same positive, I’m now officially confused. I still love watching your videos though.
Oh yes I know exactly what you mean that’s just a little belt and brasses why of doing it as long as you have positive and negative on opposite battery’s you’re doing ok they become one so power going in and out from same thermal is fine remember keep it simple keep it safe 👍😊👍
Hey mate good video your diagram is still a little wrong I believe you have a negative to your fuse box , when your out side of your fuse box should be for your appliances/ load . I do have a question does the chassis ground connect to the load side of the shunt ?
Thank you what do you think of the video title? I’m worried some people will think I’m being detrimental I got the idea from them books like internet for dummies your feedback would be appreciated 👍
@@BigVanSmallWorld I would of never thought it was offensive bud, there’s plenty of books etc using this title, me personally found it great that you broke it down explaining, so no I wouldn’t find offensive bud :)
@@BigVanSmallWorld When you think about how many tasks you share, I would say you do not need reassurance, proof is in the followers. We love you Mel 😜
This is why I prefer the Victron Bluetooth mppt solar and dc to dc chargers...or anything Victron for that matter (fanboy) I tend to connect the chargers direct to batteries not via the shunt and use the “ Victron app” to read what’s actually going in (solar) And only use the victron shunt for draw out readings, as I really only want to know what Amps/Wh I’m using.
no not the ctek , the shunt measures what goes in and out of the battery for the display to read It measures the resistance across the to terminals and converts the resistans into a amp reading so you know how many amps or watts you have used
i get this question at least 3 times a week from people wanting to know why there monitor isn't working , and believe me your not the first and you wont be the last ,
Hi Mel.... just the video i was looking for as always! Ive set up my camper systembusing the Ring 30 dc system from you recomendation with a 300w solar panel and a 290ah battery. Will this victron Shunt work with it do you think? Im noticing my battery going down quickly just with a few led lights on so want to know whether to believe the cheap switch panel volt meter or not and get a better idea of whats going on with my system.... keep up the great content 👍
My eagle eye spotted something else...running the date cable with the power cable in same trunking isn’t really advised as it can create interference...not a massive issue with DC it’s more a problem with AC 👍🏼
I used the cheap chinese shunt that has a negitive battery terninal on one side and a battery post on the other side of the shunt makes it sort of idiot proof ,, lucky for me !
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Thanks Mel, it’s good that we can learn from each other and that we can be open enough to admit our mistakes. We all make them. I made one last week, easily fixed fortunately but cost me $A65. Your info about all loads being connected on the correct side of the shunt is very useful.
I’m glad you hear it was helpful to you
Thank you, I couldn't figure out why my shunt wasn't working properly. Your video solved my problems.
That’s fantastic I’m glad I helped you out 👍😊👍
Thanks for the video, victron instructions not clear on how to connect, I was scratching my head wondering how to connect the negative to ground. Thanks, now makes sense.
Glad it helped
Top Video Mel, helped me immensely with my set up, now just got to work out how to wire in a non isolated DC to DC charger and job done.
Hi Mel, been following you for a while now, great content in your videos. You’ll always gain loads of respect in the fact you don’t take criticism personally. Your learning curve is the benefit to all. Well done👍
Thank you for your positive message it really means a lot to me 👍
Mel, your channel is awesome! Top marks for accepting you made an error and thanking your subs for pointing it out. Not so long ago, I (and others) pointed out a wiring error to a well known 'masterclass' youtuber and our comments were deleted.
Thank you for being positive about it i really appreciate your encouragement and support I wonder why they did that
Funny you should say that, I made a comment about a well known 'tubers' wiring, and he completely denied there was an issue. I have also pointed out where he was factually wrong, and been blanked. He has such a reputation for 'perfection' and is used as a reference source by so many, that his attitude really stinks, and Mel in comparison is a breath of fresh air!
@@PhilPassmore Totally agree. If he hadn't labelled his tutorial a 'masterclass' I'd probably have not commented. I've not watched a video of his since. On the other hand, Mel's humility and honesty, puts him head and shoulders above the self appointed so called experts!
It may be worth naming the channel, although it is not something you would normally do. I have trouble getting my head around electrics and it is the kind of thing I would watch to try and educate myself. I would hate to be getting the wrong information. Electrics can be dangerous
@@alanthompson9956 Hi Alan, I am reluctant to do so here, as the tuber concerned in my comment may have a good relationship with Mel, and using Mel's channel to name them seems a bit wrong. If you want to drop me an email to jtalain60@gmail.com I will do it in private.
Hi, Thanks, I needed to learn how to wire a shunt up to my System that had a C-TEK split charger. This made it clear and simple.
That’s great thank you for taking the time to comment really appreciated good luck with your build 👍😊👍
Thanks very much for this. I connected my charger to the battery too instead of the james blunt. Will try this tomorrow. Keep on keepin on
Everything you connect to the battery has to go through the shunt for it to work properly good luck with it 👍🤓👍
Awesome, I’d jutted followed the box, thank you for the follow up, that’s why we watch!
Thank you for watching 👍
Give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling when like minded folk are able to point out from there experience where we are going down the wrong road..... Keep up the great work Mel !!
Thank you Jack what do you think of the video title I’m worried about people taking offence?
@@BigVanSmallWorld Well I never thought is was offensive or controversial..... I think the 'for dummies' is very widely used and in what would be considered the public domain so to speak . With 17k subs you've got to piss someone off what ever you do or say. Guess there's not too many wokey snowflakes interested in van conversions...... ha !
@@skookumjack thank you buddy I appreciate your feedback 👍
Well done governor !!! Good and simple for dummy’s like me !!
Thanks for clearing up the wiring...I to had questions.
Nice one Mel, shows we can all make mistakes and learn from them. By pointing out your own coc...... Error... you make yourself infinitely more credible. Well done matey.
Thank you Phil much appreciated 👍😊👍
Hi Mel , another great informative video, so just to be clear, the earth ground cable you would normally have from your leisure battery going to the chassis now comes from the P- (opposite end) of the shunt. There's no need to have an earth cable directly from the battery. I'm fitting the victron orion b2b non isolated in my vw t5.1 build so according to what you say I should run the earth/ground cable from the b2b to the P- (other end) of the shunt along with all other negatives, ie fuse box, inverter fridge (where my positive is direct to the battery via a fuse) and my diesel heater, same as the fridge and my 240v battery charger. Hope that makes sense. Cheers Mel
Thank you, clearly explained, 👍
Thank you for taking the time to comment really appreciate your positive feedback it’s nice to hear my video has helped you 👍🤓👍
Good one Mel. Good job sticking the isolator in to stop all power in an emergency 👍
Thank you 😊
An alternative to the isolator is to put in an over-current breaker. Adds a layer of protection at the same time as giving you a convenient shut off point.
@@PhilPassmore That's something I purchased last year and pretty much forgot about. Glad you mentioned it.
Nice one Mel. Clear and concise. Thankyou
Thank you buddy really appreciate your positive feedback 👍😊👍
We vanner nomad community always try to help, to the best of our ability .. even if we don't own a van. :D
Thank you 😊
this is about the 10th video ive watched and the first one that made it clear what i have to do ..THANK YOU ...tho this is totally different to the diagram on the back of my battery meter
Hi Kelly I’m sorry it’s all so confusing I do hope this video helped you in some way
Hi Mel, sorry me again with another question, I've got the Ring b2b in my other van I use and have a battery monitor with a shunt (Aili monitor) should I have the negative from the ring unit going to the P- (other end) of the shunt? I'm thinking yes as you and a few others I've watched emphasise All negatives must go to the other side from B- on the shunt to get an accurate picture of whats coming and going to your leisure battery, thanks again Bob
Great video. I would have put the switch between the fuse and the inverter positive terminal. Then run the fuse holder to the positive on the inverter. That way the switch would turn all power off? ATM you would get drainage from your inverter being connected all the time? but I guess you always have appliances connected and running.
Great idea
Thank you. You explain things very well.
Thank you I hope so 👍😊👍
I have the opposite problem it discharges correctly but can't show it charging back up.
Cheers for that Mel, I too followed the box diagram, guess what I'm doing at the weekend?
Oh my goodness me that’s brilliant I’m so pleased I made this video just knowing it helped someone makes it all worthwhile thank you for letting me know really appreciate it good luck 👍😊👍
I would be more than happy with you wiring my van. At the end of the day I can count a few things I got wrong on my build. Luckily I'm learning fast 😂. Iv still to wire up my RC 30 DC to DC 😅. I would like you to see what I have done so far. I got everything on the lounge floor. It's a bit like a mock up😂. Between you and Gregs tuition, I should not blow myself up. 👌
Thank you for the positive encouragement and your support really appreciated any questions I’ll be happy to help if I can 👍
Another great and informative video, Mel. Would love to hear you talk about the benefits of the shunt and show us the app. I'm thinking about getting one but I'm not sure.
It’s basically so you can see the state of charge of your battery’s to make sure you get long life out of them 👍
Add a bus bar to the shunt (output) to tidy up/make easier termination rather than have lots under the massive bolt. The eyelets needed are huge on the Victron shunt.
Thank you yes they are lucky that’s all the negatives I’ll be needing to fit to the shunt the rest can go the the fuse box bus bar thanks for the tip though 👍😊👍
Can I run my wire directly to the shunt to power my appliances?
There is no such thing as an error, just learning opportunities you are kind enough to share with us. There are two kinds of people when it comes to wiring in a Victron BMV; those who have learned about this the hard way, and those who have yet to do so - welcome to my side of the divide 🤐
Thank you buddy really appreciate your feedback 👍😊👍
Hi Mel I've just ordered the Victron Smart Shunt. How would I connect the Negative from my van load to the shunt as it has a battery terminal connector on it that normally goes over an M8 battery stud?
I’m sorry I don’t really know what you mean
@@BigVanSmallWorld No problem, I've sorted it, I cut off the round battery terminal connector on the Autotrail wiring loom and crimped and heat shrinked an M10 eyelet on to it to fit onto the shunt and all working fine 👍
Excellent video, very informative.
Thank you 😊
Hi great video, do you have a video that shows how you connected the ground wire to the chassis or maybe a different part of the van?
Hi thank you for taking the time to comment it’s hard to explain where I connected the negative so I’ll show you next Wednesdays waffle video won’t be tomorrow it will be next week hope this helps
Mell Iv a question on this Iv got a sterling 60amp battery to battery charger and I need to put the battery monitor on the earth of my leisure batteries to monitor the temperature so the charger can work according to the battery temperature !! But your saying nothing should be connected to the earth post on the battery only the shunt.
Any advice on this m8
If it’s a temperature sensor and there’s no actual electric connection then that’s fine 👍🤓👍
Did you have to wire the BMV monitor cable to both leisure batteries or one to one leisure battery and the other to the starter battery?
I’m sorry I don’t understand what you mean every thing going to one battery if that’s helpful 👍
You learn by doing mistakes! thanks for sharing the lesson learned, really useful!
You’re absolutely welcome thank you for taking the time to comment 👍
thanks mel
i always learn more from my mistakes as well.
i didnt think of simply turning your terminal block upside down to get cleaner cable runs, simple but effective.
also didnt know i could just take two house leisure batteries and connect in parallel ,get more residual capacity of amp hours.
where do you read the charge/discharge of amps in/out?separate meter somewhere? i understand citron shows this on a bluetooth app now.
john
Good video Thankyou. I currently have my solar negative going to my ctek, will I now need to run this to the shunt aswell? Thanks
That’s a great question I’m really not sure but I’m thinking probably not as the Ctek is a self contained unit and the power outlet from this unit will go though the shunt 👍
Going off the subject a bit have you ever looked at the Bobil vans water heater system to piggyback onto your existing diesel heater. Looks like a really good idea to provide hot water to your van ?
I am sure that you were not the only person to make this mistake....thanks for showing us how it should be done,
Jerry
Thank you Jerry that’s why I thought it would be good idea to make this video 👍
Mel, I thought this had cleared it up for me re fitting the shunt, it has I think but it’s confused me with something else. I thought that if you had your charge going into positive on battery 1 you took it from the positive on the battery 2 and the charge went to negative on battery 2 and you took it from negative on battery 1,if you know what I mean. You have your charger going to the positive and the fuse box wired to the same positive, I’m now officially confused. I still love watching your videos though.
Oh yes I know exactly what you mean that’s just a little belt and brasses why of doing it as long as you have positive and negative on opposite battery’s you’re doing ok they become one so power going in and out from same thermal is fine remember keep it simple keep it safe 👍😊👍
Oh yes plus if you do it the way you say you won’t be able to use shunt 👍
Hey mate good video your diagram is still a little wrong I believe you have a negative to your fuse box , when your out side of your fuse box should be for your appliances/ load . I do have a question does the chassis ground connect to the load side of the shunt ?
Thank you 🙏
awesome very helpful thank for the vid
Thank you 🙏
I wouldn’t of own either Mel :( I would of just follow the box. So good everyone reached out to you about it :)
Thank you what do you think of the video title? I’m worried some people will think I’m being detrimental I got the idea from them books like internet for dummies your feedback would be appreciated 👍
@@BigVanSmallWorld I would of never thought it was offensive bud, there’s plenty of books etc using this title, me personally found it great that you broke it down explaining, so no I wouldn’t find offensive bud :)
@@WhipperdeetsAdventures thank you for getting back to me that’s quite reassuring cheers 🍻
@@BigVanSmallWorld any time buddy your inspiring others bud :) 😊
@@BigVanSmallWorld When you think about how many tasks you share, I would say you do not need reassurance, proof is in the followers. We love you Mel 😜
This is why I prefer the Victron Bluetooth mppt solar and dc to dc chargers...or anything Victron for that matter (fanboy) I tend to connect the chargers direct to batteries not via the shunt and use the “ Victron app” to read what’s actually going in (solar) And only use the victron shunt for draw out readings, as I really only want to know what Amps/Wh I’m using.
Thank you that’s a really good idea 💡
The reply I was looking for, cheers👍👍
I assume that you only need the shunt for the Ctek charger?
no not the ctek , the shunt measures what goes in and out of the battery for the display to read
It measures the resistance across the to terminals and converts the resistans into a amp reading so you know how many amps or watts you have used
You can use it on any battery the thing with Ctek is there’s no display so you need a battery monitor 👍
Absolutely spot on 👍👍
i get this question at least 3 times a week from people wanting to know why there monitor isn't working , and believe me your not the first and you wont be the last ,
Thank you buddy that means it was well worth me taking the time to make this video 😊👍
nice well sorted
Thank you buddy
Hi Mel.... just the video i was looking for as always! Ive set up my camper systembusing the Ring 30 dc system from you recomendation with a 300w solar panel and a 290ah battery. Will this victron Shunt work with it do you think? Im noticing my battery going down quickly just with a few led lights on so want to know whether to believe the cheap switch panel volt meter or not and get a better idea of whats going on with my system.... keep up the great content 👍
Hi thanks for taking the time to comment I’m sure the battery monitor will help you figure out what’s going on 👍🤓👍
I would like to see a diagram of how to wire a smart shunt to a 2 six volt battery system
The same principle apply
THANK YOU
Welcome 🙏
Just a thought, it might have better on your Diagram to show the -ve connections in Black rather than Red? :-)
Thank you unfortunately I can’t change it now
Surely you need a fuse on the cable coming from the positive on the battery to the isolator!
Ohh that’s not a bad idea thank you
@@BigVanSmallWorld thinking about it, you could fit an mcb type breaker and use that instead of the isolator
My eagle eye spotted something else...running the date cable with the power cable in same trunking isn’t really advised as it can create interference...not a massive issue with DC it’s more a problem with AC 👍🏼
Thank for the advice 👍
Need to install fuse on positive terminal
Correct 👍
Hi Mel great video. can you tell me what shunt you used, please
Hi there is a link in the description of this video with all the details thank you 👍
@@BigVanSmallWorld many thx
Thanks for the video. You saved me>
You’re welcome 👍
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Mel Dont be so hard on yourself you did nothing Wrong... But you Did learn something New :)
Thank you David I really appreciate you taking the time to comment and your encouragement and support 👍😊👍
Shunting hell Mel. You shunt have done that pal 😂joking apart great job 👊👊👊
I know I’m such a shunt 😂👍
pity there is a video thumbnail covering the left hand side of your wiring diagram at the end of the video
Oh my goodness me I’m so sorry I think I have sorted it out now thank you for letting me know 👍😊👍
Hi Mel Which one would you choose ring or CTek 🤔
Ring all the way 👍
Basically, you bypassed the shunt!
Unfortunately yes 👏
I used the cheap chinese shunt that has a negitive battery terninal on one side and a battery post on the other side of the shunt makes it sort of idiot proof ,, lucky for me !
Thank you buddy that’s exactly what I was thinking why don’t they make them like that 👍
Yay .... :)
👍🍻👍
Confusing Wiring Diagram, would have been better off without muddying the water with that diagram.
I look forward to seeing your video
Bet Rebecca wishes that she'd asked Coral to do it.
Hahaha yes she would have gotten it right the first time 👍😊👍