*Eccelesiarch:* "But there's no such thing as a Canoness Errant..." *Commissar Yarrick:* "Go ahead and tell her that. I'll be over here... deep inside the safety of the Fortress of Arrogance." _Backs away slowly_
The Sororitas' hierarchical structure is extremely complex and confusing, as each Order possesses its own customs and organizational standards, so much so that entire orders within the Sororitas are tasked charge with keeping track of how the other orders function, both individually and in relation to the rest of organization's chain of command. It's sometimes said that the system is deliberately overcomplicated in order to dissuade espionage and subterfuge against the Sororitas.
@Solarchos Don't go mentioning THAT to Ghazghkull..! That'd REALLY set him off on another *WAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!* ...and I don't think One-eyed Yarrick will like that either!
Also don't forget in the Commissar Yarick novel she gazed into the eyes of a Tzeentchian Daemon Prince. It's not exactly clear what it happened, but it tried to corrupt her with a flow of knowledge and visions that turned her eyes funny but she remained pure somehow, and told Yarrick it had given her 'perspective'. Maybe this made her immune or resistant to whatever tainted her sisterhood
Martian Techpriest: "The Sisters of Battle don't just have ONE traitor! They have MULTIPLE Traitors! And they HIDE it!" Astartes: *Quietly try to nudge Nine traitor Primarchs, nine traitor Legions and many renegade Chapters behind the sofa.* Titanicus: *Sweeps traitor Titan Legions under the rug.* Mechanicus: *Tosses a sheet over the Dark Mechanicum.* Inquisition: *Shoos radicals out of the room.* Regular Imperials: *Trillions of traitors whistle nonchalantly.* Sororitas: "I. Hate. All of you."
@@RocketHarry865 Do you mean that figuratively, or have you forgotten that Primarchs are sterile and cannot have children? Unless Alpharius got Bile involved...
If that is true, then she probably the smartest of all they fell to the chaos afterall she still serving the imperium compare to all other that fall to chaos. I mean most who fell to chaos somehow started to do the dumb stuff like erect a temple to whichever god they follow, doing all the blood sacrifice and stuff that can get the inqusition start to perform extorminatus on the planet they on because the inqusition get lazy to go down and clear sector by sector of chaos taints, well unless the world have any importance to the imperium such as forge worlds and others.
Is it possible the canonness was really the one who was corrupted, and this corruption caused her to think her order was corrupted and have them killed?
That would be terrible writing. A character has to be willing to fall, and it would be one HELL of a character swing to make her fall to Chaos, it would be like Dorn arguing against fortifications.
She doesn’t necessarily have to fall to Chaos to be corrupted. She could just become so paranoid in her blind faith and devotion that she could potentially see the others as not being ‘pure’ enough, and just snap. We are talking about religious zealots after all
@@JPLOWMAN2 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense considering it was a one off affair. Stories of that type always wind up escalating until self-destruction where-as she went on to be a stable individual. Like when Gabriel Angelos called down Exterminatus on his own home world, he didn't show any signs of increased paranoia or activity of that kind after-the-fact.
I can see some Slaaneshi corruption involved in the order. Since slaanesh appears as the epitomy of beauty to the beholder, a greater demon could take the form of the Emperor, prey upon the adoration and worship of the sisters and begin to corrupt them, without them realizing it.
There was also that time in the Cain book The Traitor's Hand where an entire convent of sisters were converted to Chaos worship along with the whole planet they were on over the duration of a single speech. To be fair though, Varan had a mind-control voice that was silly levels of cheating and the moment a null came nearby, it wore off immediately. Said sisters then suddenly came to their senses and threw themselves off a building in despair.
Knowing 40k, both factions are paranoid enough that if either of them found out about each others heresy, they'd probably kill each other *BLAM* NO HERESY HERE. THIS YOUNG MAN WAS SPREADING LIES ABOUT THE DARK ANGELS. WE ARE LOYAL TO THE EMPEROR AND THE EMPEROR ALONE
The crazy drunk inquisotor lady is the Inquisitorial representative of the Ordo Xeno if I remember well so would that mean that most the Ordo xeno is part of a Jeanstealer cult?
The Grey Knights are the only ones capable of resisting the lure of Chaos, all others shall fall whether they mean to or not. A perfect example of 40K's grimdarkness.
But in all honesty it's theorized by some that Grey Knights do fall to Chaos it's just their battle brothers kill them very soon after preventing Chaos Grey Knights from being a thing.
I may be off, but it’s my understanding that at least one Grey Knight serves Chaos (Slaanesh? Undivided? Icr); and there’s that one Sister that was all like “sure, I’m in”, too. I think in these cases, willingness to be corrupted is fairly consistent. Blanks/Nulls/Pariahs should be unable to meaningfully interact w/ the Warp, though... at least till the next reconia. At least it may make Matt Ward cry, the GK thing, that is. E: fuck autocorrect
Sister julian who was a retired celestian who had to go back into combat due to an invasion was having relations with some admin clark although not exactly openly
@@dannyavarice the only flaw in that theory is that she goes on for quite some time and doesn't really become chaos-y. Maybe Yarrick's latent WAGH powers kept her "pure"
Phil McCracken - mine is the Red Weeping. And the Red Gimme Chocolate. No woman would mistake that for signs of chaos, though some men might. Also, fun fact, they don’t synchronize. Everyone just has different lengths, so it might seem like they are coming together but that’s just an illusion.
Shattered pelvis. It's times like that I would be glad that my hips already necrosed and I have metal hips, because only metal would withstand that pent up aggression and repressed sexual frustration. Yikes.
She's probably corrupted and was found out by her sisters. before she could be confronted...the inquistion came to assault the order, leaving no witiness alive. Or she could be a badass nun, like Ephrael Stern.
Conspiracy theory: the taint was the sisters obtaining copies of Ian Watson’s books, including “Inquisitor Draco”. The convent enjoyed the books so much that they were looking to get into other series like “Twilight” or “40k shades of Green” along with getting a book club up and going to spread the word of them to the other Sisters of Battle once they saw them. But thank the Emperor the Canoness found out and knew what had to be done.
I see so many comments speculating that the real traitor is her, but that doesn’t make any sense. If that were the case, she wouldn’t still be fighting heretics in the name of the emperor. Plus she fought with they grey knights, who surely would’ve found her out were she a traitor...
#Quotes-By bolter shell, flamer burst and melta blast, the mutant, the heretic and the traitor alike are cleansed of their sin of existence. So has it been for five millennia, so shall it be unto the end of time. - Words of Devotion, Verses IV-V, Chapter X, Volume LII 🙌🙏🙌 🛐
I like to think that the Order was actually following the Temple Tendency from the Dark Hersey Role-playing game. These are the remnants of the original Temple of the God-Emperor who eventually became the Eclessiarchy. They were reformed by Sebastian Thorne after Van Dire's reign of blood. However, some chose not to follow Thorne's reforms. This makes the Pierced Thorn a heretical sect in the true meaning of the word as well as giving some ulterior meaning to their order' s name. (Sorry for any spelling mistakes btw)
This is an interesting question. I do not know. It is unlikely a genestealer cult because individual free time is rare for the sisters. Even if it were to take hold with some sister, leave and free time being so rare, her sisters would observe differences in her. I know this from my own time in service. Her sisters would see it, they would know. It could be due to their familiarity with xenos culture and language. They could have been TOO interested.
In a great example of why Slaanesh getting killed off would be GREAT for the franchise, from a PR standpoint: Xe is actually a Hermaphrodite (w/ working male & female genitalia), so... yeah. GRIMDARK! Yes, iirc, this is very much canon.
@thekangarooboxer That's impossible. The Chaos gods were born during the 2nd millennium in the middle ages, barring Slaanesh who was born thousands upon thousands of years later when the Eldar murderfucked it into existence and blew away the warp storms, allowing Daddy E to launch his crusade. Khorne was born first during the crusades, then came Nurgle with the black death killing 1/3rd of Europe, and lastly (for a while at least) Tzeentch during the age of discovery. The only Daemon to even come close to the time period of Adam and Eve would be Drach'nyen, who was created when Cain committed the first act of murder.
And putting the Sisters of Battle in Dawn of War 2 Retribution or a hero unit for the arena would have made the game even better. Then again, the Dark Eldar, as well as the Tau and Necron armies didn't get their fair shot in that epic game.
What I like is that there are stories of Sister and Space Marines that fall in love and will go rouge or even chaos (divided or singular devotion) as to keep being with Each other. I love purging and gore as much as the next Black Templar and Cararodoon but I'm still a suck for romance
@@KingLich451 Even Slaanesh has trouble giving space marines the ability to get pleasure from sex. That's why they're usually obsessed with sounds and drugs
In Cain's Last Stand, there was an order which was mind-controlled by a chaos sorcerer. There is evidence though that it wasn't necessarily complete corruption as many of those who were controlled by him suicided once they horror ended.
Same issue with a single member of the Order of the Martyred Lady joined the Repentia after a psyker Vonn used her to "test drive" his powers basically breaking her in the novel "Faith & Fire".
Another possibility not mentioned is that she became so obsessed with the purity of her sisterhood that she saw taint even where there was none. Perhaps the Piercing Thorn was simply the victim of the vengeful fantasies of a cracked zealot mind? Or perhaps I'm just talking heresy...
That habit of concealing sisters lost to corruption could itself attract the attention of the Alpha Legion, who might, in disguise of course, offer expertise in concealing losses 😬
My wager is that the Piercing Thorn wasn't corrupted/tainted at all. In the novell Imperial Creed Setheno recieves "knowledge" of the future by a deamon of tzeentch on Mistral. Yarrick resists the demon, Seetheno does not. Maybe tzeentch just decieved her, if that was where her conviction of the taint came from. A false truth implanted in her head An entire holy Order exterminated by a chaos god, using the hubris of a single sister superior. Grindark enough I would say
So the order were hunters of often forbidden knowledge. could it be that the order was tainted by some piece of knowledge they sought or the artifact containing the knowledge.
I reckon it was some of the sisters seeing Stheno as a starch arsed task master and when she left they let their hair down, slept in a few mornings and had a couple of parties. When Stheno came back, probably forgot her purse, she saw their laxity and decided to erase it. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas kind of thing. With added bombardment from orbit. To make sure...
12:36 Wait, hold on... So let's say Margaret falls to corruption. Then Sybille takes on the identity of Margaret to cover this up. How do they explain the disappearance of Sybille? Does Emma take on the Identity of Sybille? Then what about Emma? Is this a turtles all the way down situation?
40K Theories: regarding the Sisters of Battle. Will we ever hear about the Clone soldiers from the story of Red & Black??... What happened to them? Will they return as “ Space Marine “ type Sisters? Or has the Inquisition put them on Ice?
I'm surprised more Sisters of Battle don't fall to Khorne when given orders to eliminate civilians (Dawn of War Soulstorm mentions numerous times locals are taken out by the Sisters). Nurgle is another you would think would have collected a shock team of fallen battle sisters, considering viral infections and hordes of unclean. Tzeentch? Doesn't seem to be its crowd.
Here's the thing about keeping secrets, these adepta who conceal corruption can be spun into the plans of the Architect of Fate. Even those who claim purity shall transgress against the Emperor to survive
She only wants what's best for the emperor, she fought to stop the Black Dragons chapter being investigated by the Inquisition. And made an inquisitor quake where he stood. Awesome character 👌
"Hey I heard your oder is tainted!" "By the emperor I must purge them brb" Maybe she was lied to about the taint and went back to purge because someone was afraid of her taking the position.
Cult of the Spiral Dawn. A sister falls to the GSC, and becomes its patron saint. In the epilogue, (which turns out to be the prequel) the sister saves the cult numerous times and her legacy is renowned throughout the GSCs following years. :O
1:04 - Yeah, it's specifically stated that. | 2:48 - They're resistant to chaos (more so than most) but not immune. | 5:24 - Black Dragons would be a grey area as they could be considered mutants, due to them having bone blades like Baraka..."One-eye" Yarrick, he knows how to fight Orks. | 5:45 - They can certainly be infected by that. | 10:00 - I'm guessing that it's more Nurgle's Rot, as killing them at that point would be doing them a favour, better that and dying of the disease and being reborn of Plaguebearer daemons, although there's one corrupted by Slaanesh...as for Khorne, those that lose control of themselves succumb to that.
Having just learned that the Adeptus Sororitas is female only because of a loophole is both clever and genius. I never questioned why, I just presumed that it was GW just having another fantasy archetype adapted to sci-fi, well played you mad lads.
I know people have said this before, but theres also the plot twist that she is the one who is corrupted lmao But na this is 40k we need badases like her around to keep fighting demons and mosnters
I wonder how would sister of battle with all the hate for mutants and impurity, especially such exceptionally fanatical one like her, be able to fight alongside Black Dragons marines?
Haha 2:48, it's Miriya from the omnibus novels "sister of battle", but did you change her hair color ? on the book cover she have black hair . Anyway, for those who didn't readi it, go for it, it's excellent. that book throne on my bedside table in compagny of ravenor and eiseinhorn
I didn't change the hair colour, no. To be honest I didn't even initially notice the difference in hair colour. From my understanding it is an early version of the final art used.
Emperor of man: I am most certain these Sisters of Battle are sensible and rational people. Custode: yessss... sensible and rational, yes those are...... words......
Is it possible that she was actually the only member of her order to become tainted? Wiping out a highly skilled order would be one hell of an offering to her new gods ...
the thing is a genestealer cult sounds alot more likely then chaos taint because all that needs to happen is for one genestealer to corner a sister alone,then she goes on to reproduce genestealer hybrids and sense hybrids are genecoded to obey and spread the cult the sisters cant really control it,but they can control the taint of chaos
I mean, lesser things have happened to warrant an eradication of an entire (once friendly) army to the Imperium, but it does seem oddly convenient for the Piercing Thorns' cannoness to be away during the initial corruption. It wouldn't surprise me if she was actually tainted and sought sacrifice to (most likely) Khorne. And what better sacrifice than that of her entire sisterhood while she remains completely clear of any persecution, distrust, or even suspicion. Khorne isn't picky about who is killed in his name, the only thing that matters is the death itself. Just an alternative possibility (although highly unlikely).
Khorne however, does not appreciate skulls earned through deceptions as much. Especially not from someone pretending to be a corpse-emperor worshipper.
@@skylark306 That's very true. That's probably the largest flaw in my theory. Khorne isn't comparable to Tzeench or Slaanesh in the slightest. Now that I think about it, Nurgle and Khorne detest deception. Nurgle would rather have the civilization rot from within and Khorne is rather honorable, despite his insatiable bloodlust. With that in mind, I think it's safe to say that the Cannoness is pure. I apologize I'm not that familiar with the lore of the Eclesiarchy.
Here is a theory (unfounded and maybe unprecedented for sisters if battle). The order was not tainted, but Setheno was tainted. The order resisted this taint and Setheno made her move to have the order eliminated, using her power and influence to move upon her own order before they could move against her. Setheno with Inquisitor like power had them all eliminated. Now she is free to travel the Galaxy as a Canonness Errant and spread the taint (genestealer or chaos), wherever she goes.
Mary Poppins from the Ordo Famulous, meets her newest charge "Hello kids how what imagination you have, we shall have to deal with that wront we and also remember Magic is heresy"
Even more informal name of the order is "bolter bitches"... BTW, it would be extra interesting, if the only one corrupted was sister Stephano and the rest of her order, wich was pure fall prey to her "securitiy issues", to prevent anyone find out about her. It seem to be quite prevalent oppinion on the situation, according the previous posts.
i just cant see how a sister infected could possibly keep it secret at all. firstly getting pregnant. keeping it secret for the duration. somehow keeping a genestealer hidden in/near the sisterhood?? nah.
See, this right here is my only knock against 40K. The Sisters of Battle and the original Tau fluff where some of the least grimdark parts of the game. Sure the Sisters served the Imperium, but the Sister's themselves were all but above corruption. Only a handful in thousands of years. The Sisters, like the original Tau fluff actually gave the game "good guys." But you cannot have something in 40K apparently that is in any way hopeful. Same thing is happening to Age of Sigmar. Not everything has to be grimdark to have conflict.
Wouldn't the easiest answer be that one of the sisters who accompanied Sethano and survived the fight with the demon prince in the catacombs on Mistral (See "Imperial Creed," by David Anannandale) succumbs to the taint and slowly worked to spread it amongst her sisters? Although it isn't said outright, it is pretty much implied that the same thing happened to Yarrick's mentor Lord Commissar Rask after he survived the same ordeal.
Genestealer Hybrids grow ridiculously fast. According to "The Greater Evil" a T'au/Genestealer hybrid was the size of a pre-teen child after just 3 weeks.
I always hated the order of Genestealer genetics work. It seems like it is opposite of what it should be. Becoming more Genestealer like the more generations in not more human like.
*Eccelesiarch:* "But there's no such thing as a Canoness Errant..."
*Commissar Yarrick:* "Go ahead and tell her that. I'll be over here... deep inside the safety of the Fortress of Arrogance." _Backs away slowly_
The Sororitas' hierarchical structure is extremely complex and confusing, as each Order possesses its own customs and organizational standards, so much so that entire orders within the Sororitas are tasked charge with keeping track of how the other orders function, both individually and in relation to the rest of organization's chain of command. It's sometimes said that the system is deliberately overcomplicated in order to dissuade espionage and subterfuge against the Sororitas.
That reminds me of Asterix and Obleix and the permint A38
*Adeptus Astares take one large step the the left*
@@charlesman8722 The Codex Astartes probably contains "Those more zealous than thou shalt have right of way towards thy nearest heretic.".
@Solarchos Don't go mentioning THAT to Ghazghkull..! That'd REALLY set him off on another *WAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!*
...and I don't think One-eyed Yarrick will like that either!
Also don't forget in the Commissar Yarick novel she gazed into the eyes of a Tzeentchian Daemon Prince. It's not exactly clear what it happened, but it tried to corrupt her with a flow of knowledge and visions that turned her eyes funny but she remained pure somehow, and told Yarrick it had given her 'perspective'.
Maybe this made her immune or resistant to whatever tainted her sisterhood
Or it turned her into a sleeper agent, and she murdered her order on the orders of Tzeentch.
Sisters of Battle: We are immune to the forces of Chaos!
Miriael Sabathiel laughing: Hold my Bloody Mary.
To be fair, she did corrupt herself willingly. Does that still count.
I didn't realize that Miriael's story was canon. I read a lot of people brushing it off as a fan story at best and a twisted fantasy at worst.
@@Just-J-10 There was also at least on case of a Sister of Battle being posessed in the graphic novel Demonifuge
weldonwin I don’t really count being possessed as corruption if it isn’t willing.
@@Fireclaws10 Plenty of Inquisitors that wouldn't care if it was willing or not. They'd kill you just as quick.
Martian Techpriest: "The Sisters of Battle don't just have ONE traitor! They have MULTIPLE Traitors! And they HIDE it!"
Astartes: *Quietly try to nudge Nine traitor Primarchs, nine traitor Legions and many renegade Chapters behind the sofa.*
Titanicus: *Sweeps traitor Titan Legions under the rug.*
Mechanicus: *Tosses a sheet over the Dark Mechanicum.*
Inquisition: *Shoos radicals out of the room.*
Regular Imperials: *Trillions of traitors whistle nonchalantly.*
Sororitas: "I. Hate. All of you."
that is >Sethenos right there
Don't forget the Dark Angels not needing to do anything to hide the fallen at that moment because they've sent 10,000 years doing it already.
@@Koppu1doragon ASMODAI
@@jacthing1 *Cough* Asmodai *Cough*
@@Koppu1doragon MAKE HIM REPENT
Plot twist. She was the one that actually fell to chaos and convinced the inquisition to destroy her order.
She was turned into a sleeper agent by the Alpha Legion, that's my theory.
@@notcreativeside she's alpharius
@@PLpatriot999 daughter?
@@RocketHarry865 Do you mean that figuratively, or have you forgotten that Primarchs are sterile and cannot have children? Unless Alpharius got Bile involved...
If that is true, then she probably the smartest of all they fell to the chaos afterall she still serving the imperium compare to all other that fall to chaos. I mean most who fell to chaos somehow started to do the dumb stuff like erect a temple to whichever god they follow, doing all the blood sacrifice and stuff that can get the inqusition start to perform extorminatus on the planet they on because the inqusition get lazy to go down and clear sector by sector of chaos taints, well unless the world have any importance to the imperium such as forge worlds and others.
Now I want to create a Khornate Warband with a Sororitas as my HQ choice.
My poor wallet
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Reveris *laughing in money*
@@theemissary1313 i've checked it, and personnaly i found their models very ugly.
i prefer the models of raging heroes.
F... you heretic!
@@theemissary1313 those chaos trophy corpses could look good in a chaos knight.
Is it possible the canonness was really the one who was corrupted, and this corruption caused her to think her order was corrupted and have them killed?
That would be terrible writing.
A character has to be willing to fall, and it would be one HELL of a character swing to make her fall to Chaos, it would be like Dorn arguing against fortifications.
@@pubcle She didn't do it then. Dorn loves forts
No it isn't possible to being corrupted and have fun with the Grey Knights aftermath.
She doesn’t necessarily have to fall to Chaos to be corrupted. She could just become so paranoid in her blind faith and devotion that she could potentially see the others as not being ‘pure’ enough, and just snap. We are talking about religious zealots after all
@@JPLOWMAN2 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense considering it was a one off affair. Stories of that type always wind up escalating until self-destruction where-as she went on to be a stable individual. Like when Gabriel Angelos called down Exterminatus on his own home world, he didn't show any signs of increased paranoia or activity of that kind after-the-fact.
I can see some Slaaneshi corruption involved in the order. Since slaanesh appears as the epitomy of beauty to the beholder, a greater demon could take the form of the Emperor, prey upon the adoration and worship of the sisters and begin to corrupt them, without them realizing it.
Good point but wouldn't they realise that the Emporer is supposed to be on his throne?
That would be a LOT of bling to try and imitate for a demon
@@TheKing-qz9wd They might just see it as a miracle and the BIG E returning
@@informationyes
Yeah they superstitous enough
thanks for covering a Nuns with Bolters(Guns) theory video today.
Correction they’re the Bolter Bitches.
@@gabrielm.942 no
12:45 geez, and I thought the Dark Angels went to extremes to keep their secret shame a secret.
Well I don't think the Adeptus Sororitas has killed a planet to keep their secrets... Then again they seem to be better at keeping those secrets.
@@joeavreg2254 that we know of...😎
Still going to give it to the Dark Angels on the level of autism they goto to keep a secret
@@viewernewest you mean the blood Angel's?
There was also that time in the Cain book The Traitor's Hand where an entire convent of sisters were converted to Chaos worship along with the whole planet they were on over the duration of a single speech.
To be fair though, Varan had a mind-control voice that was silly levels of cheating and the moment a null came nearby, it wore off immediately. Said sisters then suddenly came to their senses and threw themselves off a building in despair.
That was Cains Last Stand. Not traitors hand. Traitors hands is when he bitch slapped two world eater legionnaires.
So if sororitas claim that there are no heretics among them, they should get along with dark angels
@Anzu Wyliei
You've just described why _no one_ in the Imperium can ever work together
Knowing 40k, both factions are paranoid enough that if either of them found out about each others heresy, they'd probably kill each other *BLAM*
NO HERESY HERE. THIS YOUNG MAN WAS SPREADING LIES ABOUT THE DARK ANGELS. WE ARE LOYAL TO THE EMPEROR AND THE EMPEROR ALONE
Crazy Drunk Inquisitor Lady: Broodlord Kuuuuuuuuuun... *(Passes Out)*
The crazy drunk inquisotor lady is the Inquisitorial representative of the Ordo Xeno if I remember well so would that mean that most the Ordo xeno is part of a Jeanstealer cult?
@@themostloyalorange5209 She was from Hereticus, they overlap with Xenos when it comes to Genestealers. Kryptman represents Ordo Xenos in TTS.
"Genesteallers"
@@Duppyman695 No, Jeanstealers, they steal your denim trousers
The Grey Knights are the only ones capable of resisting the lure of Chaos, all others shall fall whether they mean to or not.
A perfect example of 40K's grimdarkness.
Slaanesh and him/her/it's silver knight would like a word with you
But in all honesty it's theorized by some that Grey Knights do fall to Chaos it's just their battle brothers kill them very soon after preventing Chaos Grey Knights from being a thing.
Eh.
Sisters of silence and other "blanks" are incorruptible too.
I may be off, but it’s my understanding that at least one Grey Knight serves Chaos (Slaanesh? Undivided? Icr); and there’s that one Sister that was all like “sure, I’m in”, too. I think in these cases, willingness to be corrupted is fairly consistent. Blanks/Nulls/Pariahs should be unable to meaningfully interact w/ the Warp, though... at least till the next reconia. At least it may make Matt Ward cry, the GK thing, that is.
E: fuck autocorrect
While not required to remain celibate few sisters find time to take advantage of the fact.
Me- sounds about right
Living Day by day hahahaha best thing I’ve read all day.
Get a dialogous in a room with her studies and help her with her work. In a few days Bam, quickies on the daily!
@@Johnpinckney98 I'm in, lol.
Sister julian who was a retired celestian who had to go back into combat due to an invasion was having relations with some admin clark although not exactly openly
Am I the only person who thought "that's a very lonely author coming up with that rule!" 😁
Genestealers infecting extremely-fetching-armored-bodice-wearing hotties with the compulsion to mate? What could possibly go wrong?
there was a sale on new combat boots which caused the sudden split in the order, and she had no choice but to destroy them all.
Size 13 women's power armor boots are no joke!
maybe she mistook the red rage as a sign of corruption?
edit: maybe she was the one who was actually corrupted and had her order butchered?
Well crap. At least I know that I'm not the only one who came to realize that was a possibility. lol
@@dannyavarice the only flaw in that theory is that she goes on for quite some time and doesn't really become chaos-y. Maybe Yarrick's latent WAGH powers kept her "pure"
Phil McCracken - mine is the Red Weeping. And the Red Gimme Chocolate.
No woman would mistake that for signs of chaos, though some men might. Also, fun fact, they don’t synchronize. Everyone just has different lengths, so it might seem like they are coming together but that’s just an illusion.
I’d gladly submit to a Sister of Battle if she wanted to “copulate”, though I’m kinda scared of how rough she’d get.
Shattered pelvis. It's times like that I would be glad that my hips already necrosed and I have metal hips, because only metal would withstand that pent up aggression and repressed sexual frustration. Yikes.
She's probably corrupted and was found out by her sisters. before she could be confronted...the inquistion came to assault the order, leaving no witiness alive.
Or she could be a badass nun, like Ephrael Stern.
Conspiracy theory: the taint was the sisters obtaining copies of Ian Watson’s books, including “Inquisitor Draco”. The convent enjoyed the books so much that they were looking to get into other series like “Twilight” or “40k shades of Green” along with getting a book club up and going to spread the word of them to the other Sisters of Battle once they saw them.
But thank the Emperor the Canoness found out and knew what had to be done.
I see so many comments speculating that the real traitor is her, but that doesn’t make any sense. If that were the case, she wouldn’t still be fighting heretics in the name of the emperor. Plus she fought with they grey knights, who surely would’ve found her out were she a traitor...
#Quotes-By bolter shell, flamer burst and melta blast, the mutant, the heretic and the traitor alike are cleansed of their sin of existence. So has it been for five millennia, so shall it be unto the end of time.
- Words of Devotion, Verses IV-V, Chapter X, Volume LII
🙌🙏🙌
🛐
Leaves toilet seat up...
Convent goes stark raving mad and falls to chaos
Thank you kindly dear Theorist for you have just provided me with the perfect antagonist for a Warth and Glory campaign I'll be running.
someone put the toilet paper roll on the wrong way. this could not be overlooked
That gene stealer bit....inspired a hell of a hentai game design....
🤔 which one?
@@Blacktemplewarrior ah pardon my bad English. I meant it inspired ME with one hell of a hentai game design.
So when us it coneing out
Gene stealers bread through their mouth
I like to think that the Order was actually following the Temple Tendency from the Dark Hersey Role-playing game. These are the remnants of the original Temple of the God-Emperor who eventually became the Eclessiarchy. They were reformed by Sebastian Thorne after Van Dire's reign of blood. However, some chose not to follow Thorne's reforms. This makes the Pierced Thorn a heretical sect in the true meaning of the word as well as giving some ulterior meaning to their order' s name. (Sorry for any spelling mistakes btw)
This is an interesting question. I do not know.
It is unlikely a genestealer cult because individual free time is rare for the sisters. Even if it were to take hold with some sister, leave and free time being so rare, her sisters would observe differences in her.
I know this from my own time in service. Her sisters would see it, they would know.
It could be due to their familiarity with xenos culture and language. They could have been TOO interested.
The taint is the Red Rage.
Armored mecha worst time of the month.
The Daemons of Khorne will eat you out like ice cream sandwiches.
@@pubcle *(Sound of breaking glass)* That is literally the worst thing you could have said... Thank you
weldonwin why if a Blood angel is effected with the Red thirst when a sister is going through the black rage?
A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.
Slaanesh showed them *HIS* piercing thorn. That's why they fell.
IT'S*
42 42 Slaanie boy is whatever you wanna call him.
In a great example of why Slaanesh getting killed off would be GREAT for the franchise, from a PR standpoint: Xe is actually a Hermaphrodite (w/ working male & female genitalia), so... yeah. GRIMDARK! Yes, iirc, this is very much canon.
@thekangarooboxer That's impossible. The Chaos gods were born during the 2nd millennium in the middle ages, barring Slaanesh who was born thousands upon thousands of years later when the Eldar murderfucked it into existence and blew away the warp storms, allowing Daddy E to launch his crusade. Khorne was born first during the crusades, then came Nurgle with the black death killing 1/3rd of Europe, and lastly (for a while at least) Tzeentch during the age of discovery. The only Daemon to even come close to the time period of Adam and Eve would be Drach'nyen, who was created when Cain committed the first act of murder.
@@paulpolito2001 it is not a Xe. Slaneesh is a Futa.
Serentho: Where's my tea?
Sister Superior: We're all out.
Serentho: ...That's it, I'm burning this place down.
*Genestealers*
@@Duppyman695 The Genestealers drank all the tea?
GOOD MUSIC CHOICE FOR THR BACKGROUND SOUNDTRACK REMLAIZ!! GOOD OLD DOW2
And putting the Sisters of Battle in Dawn of War 2 Retribution or a hero unit for the arena would have made the game even better. Then again, the Dark Eldar, as well as the Tau and Necron armies didn't get their fair shot in that epic game.
What I like is that there are stories of Sister and Space Marines that fall in love and will go rouge or even chaos (divided or singular devotion) as to keep being with Each other.
I love purging and gore as much as the next Black Templar and Cararodoon but I'm still a suck for romance
how the heck does a space marine even have feelings of romance? not even ian watson went that far
@@KingLich451 Even Slaanesh has trouble giving space marines the ability to get pleasure from sex. That's why they're usually obsessed with sounds and drugs
They send kill teams By the emperor they better get Rules when they come out! XD
Great vid. I didn't know much about the Sisters & enjoyed this.
In Cain's Last Stand, there was an order which was mind-controlled by a chaos sorcerer. There is evidence though that it wasn't necessarily complete corruption as many of those who were controlled by him suicided once they horror ended.
Same issue with a single member of the Order of the Martyred Lady joined the Repentia after a psyker Vonn used her to "test drive" his powers basically breaking her in the novel "Faith & Fire".
Don't get me started on the Last Candle...(from Requiem Infernal)
Hey, that order's entire convent was built on top of the 40k equivalent of "Indian Burial Ground". They were kinda screwed from the get-go.
Another possibility not mentioned is that she became so obsessed with the purity of her sisterhood that she saw taint even where there was none. Perhaps the Piercing Thorn was simply the victim of the vengeful fantasies of a cracked zealot mind?
Or perhaps I'm just talking heresy...
Or the cannoness is tainted and her order knew.
Cannot wait for the new The Lost and The Damned Codex supplement. Including but not limited to; Chaos IG, Chaos SB, and Beastmen.
Love your videos!! Please keep them up!
That habit of concealing sisters lost to corruption could itself attract the attention of the Alpha Legion, who might, in disguise of course, offer expertise in concealing losses 😬
My wager is that the Piercing Thorn wasn't corrupted/tainted at all. In the novell Imperial Creed Setheno recieves "knowledge" of the future by a deamon of tzeentch on Mistral. Yarrick resists the demon, Seetheno does not. Maybe tzeentch just decieved her, if that was where her conviction of the taint came from. A false truth implanted in her head
An entire holy Order exterminated by a chaos god, using the hubris of a single sister superior.
Grindark enough I would say
So the order were hunters of often forbidden knowledge. could it be that the order was tainted by some piece of knowledge they sought or the artifact containing the knowledge.
I reckon it was some of the sisters seeing Stheno as a starch arsed task master and when she left they let their hair down, slept in a few mornings and had a couple of parties. When Stheno came back, probably forgot her purse, she saw their laxity and decided to erase it. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas kind of thing. With added bombardment from orbit. To make sure...
12:36 Wait, hold on...
So let's say Margaret falls to corruption. Then Sybille takes on the identity of Margaret to cover this up. How do they explain the disappearance of Sybille? Does Emma take on the Identity of Sybille? Then what about Emma? Is this a turtles all the way down situation?
40K Theories: regarding the Sisters of Battle. Will we ever hear about the Clone soldiers from the story of Red & Black??... What happened to them? Will they return as “ Space Marine “ type Sisters? Or has the Inquisition put them on Ice?
I think this order is the exception that proves the rule. If chaotic, then it shows that not even the the most pure are safe from the call of chaos.
I'm surprised more Sisters of Battle don't fall to Khorne when given orders to eliminate civilians (Dawn of War Soulstorm mentions numerous times locals are taken out by the Sisters). Nurgle is another you would think would have collected a shock team of fallen battle sisters, considering viral infections and hordes of unclean. Tzeentch? Doesn't seem to be its crowd.
the NWG (Nuns with guns) finally!
Sororitas being infected by genestealers sounds hot
Sick minds think alike !
Here's the thing about keeping secrets, these adepta who conceal corruption can be spun into the plans of the Architect of Fate. Even those who claim purity shall transgress against the Emperor to survive
that one genestealer must have given one hell of a tounge-job to score an infestation..
Eldar music in the background from DoW2?
HERESY!
Whenever genestealers are mentioned....
"Gussy"
**SLAMS TABLE** NOOOOOOOOOO!
I hate how the inquisition have suits of armor that they cant physically fit in. I mean, your elbows are in your biceps
Sebastian Thor was a master troll
She only wants what's best for the emperor, she fought to stop the Black Dragons chapter being investigated by the Inquisition. And made an inquisitor quake where he stood. Awesome character 👌
"Hey I heard your oder is tainted!"
"By the emperor I must purge them brb"
Maybe she was lied to about the taint and went back to purge because someone was afraid of her taking the position.
She was the only corrupt sister & cover her taint up by having her order slain.
Genestealer cover up !
You know Logar is laughing.
Lorgar "I was worshiping The God Emperor when you girlz were in nappies"
Cult of the Spiral Dawn. A sister falls to the GSC, and becomes its patron saint. In the epilogue, (which turns out to be the prequel) the sister saves the cult numerous times and her legacy is renowned throughout the GSCs following years. :O
1:04 - Yeah, it's specifically stated that. | 2:48 - They're resistant to chaos (more so than most) but not immune. | 5:24 - Black Dragons would be a grey area as they could be considered mutants, due to them having bone blades like Baraka..."One-eye" Yarrick, he knows how to fight Orks. | 5:45 - They can certainly be infected by that. | 10:00 - I'm guessing that it's more Nurgle's Rot, as killing them at that point would be doing them a favour, better that and dying of the disease and being reborn of Plaguebearer daemons, although there's one corrupted by Slaanesh...as for Khorne, those that lose control of themselves succumb to that.
If the Imperium had an honest justice system, "women aren't men at arms" would not be a loophole.
Having just learned that the Adeptus Sororitas is female only because of a loophole is both clever and genius. I never questioned why, I just presumed that it was GW just having another fantasy archetype adapted to sci-fi, well played you mad lads.
I know people have said this before, but theres also the plot twist that she is the one who is corrupted lmao
But na this is 40k we need badases like her around to keep fighting demons and mosnters
So the cannoness condemned her whole order for a corruption she was convinced of and whiped them out ... so she was a 40k Darth Vader
What's the music theme you are using right after intro?
Sooo, does that armor still give a 3+ save?
What is the background chanting called? I remember it was from DoW2... blast you, now I'll have to replay the game again.
I wonder how would sister of battle with all the hate for mutants and impurity, especially such exceptionally fanatical one like her, be able to fight alongside Black Dragons marines?
Haha 2:48, it's Miriya from the omnibus novels "sister of battle", but did you change her hair color ? on the book cover she have black hair .
Anyway, for those who didn't readi it, go for it, it's excellent. that book throne on my bedside table in compagny of ravenor and eiseinhorn
I didn't change the hair colour, no. To be honest I didn't even initially notice the difference in hair colour. From my understanding it is an early version of the final art used.
@@40KTheories Ho, ok, i didn't know that, thanks for the info.
Emperor of man: I am most certain these Sisters of Battle are sensible and rational people.
Custode: yessss... sensible and rational, yes those are...... words......
40k waifus > Animu waifus
It was an act of vengeance against the Canoness. Someone poisoned her order while she was on Terra, and forced her to destroy her own sisterhood.
Is it possible that she was actually the only member of her order to become tainted? Wiping out a highly skilled order would be one hell of an offering to her new gods ...
Now we need Chaos Sister codex! XD
Great video, though I feel you dwelt a little too long on the process of the creation of a genestealer cult.
the thing is a genestealer cult sounds alot more likely then chaos taint because all that needs to happen is for one genestealer to corner a sister alone,then she goes on to reproduce genestealer hybrids and sense hybrids are genecoded to obey and spread the cult the sisters cant really control it,but they can control the taint of chaos
I mean, lesser things have happened to warrant an eradication of an entire (once friendly) army to the Imperium, but it does seem oddly convenient for the Piercing Thorns' cannoness to be away during the initial corruption. It wouldn't surprise me if she was actually tainted and sought sacrifice to (most likely) Khorne. And what better sacrifice than that of her entire sisterhood while she remains completely clear of any persecution, distrust, or even suspicion. Khorne isn't picky about who is killed in his name, the only thing that matters is the death itself. Just an alternative possibility (although highly unlikely).
Khorne however, does not appreciate skulls earned through deceptions as much. Especially not from someone pretending to be a corpse-emperor worshipper.
@@skylark306 That's very true. That's probably the largest flaw in my theory. Khorne isn't comparable to Tzeench or Slaanesh in the slightest. Now that I think about it, Nurgle and Khorne detest deception. Nurgle would rather have the civilization rot from within and Khorne is rather honorable, despite his insatiable bloodlust. With that in mind, I think it's safe to say that the Cannoness is pure. I apologize I'm not that familiar with the lore of the Eclesiarchy.
Here is a theory (unfounded and maybe unprecedented for sisters if battle). The order was not tainted, but Setheno was tainted. The order resisted this taint and Setheno made her move to have the order eliminated, using her power and influence to move upon her own order before they could move against her. Setheno with Inquisitor like power had them all eliminated. Now she is free to travel the Galaxy as a Canonness Errant and spread the taint (genestealer or chaos), wherever she goes.
Why does the Order Hospitalus look like she has a Pip Boy? Did she travel to Vault 88 where they are readily handed out to any newcomer to the Vault?
It's like a narthecium.
@@bigz4339 Nah, the device on the left hand, its a Pip Boy. She's been to Vault 88, she's wearing the Vault 88 clothing under her armour.
Mary Poppins from the Ordo Famulous, meets her newest charge "Hello kids how what imagination you have, we shall have to deal with that wront we and also remember Magic is heresy"
Well, well, well. So my dark angels aren’t the only ones keeping secrets? New to me didn’t know.
Even more informal name of the order is "bolter bitches"... BTW, it would be extra interesting, if the only one corrupted was sister Stephano and the rest of her order, wich was pure fall prey to her "securitiy issues", to prevent anyone find out about her. It seem to be quite prevalent oppinion on the situation, according the previous posts.
i just cant see how a sister infected could possibly keep it secret at all.
firstly getting pregnant. keeping it secret for the duration.
somehow keeping a genestealer hidden in/near the sisterhood??
nah.
Honestly? I suspect it's 'Cron stuff or Heretek things meant to upgrade their skills vs psykers demons or just generally other enemies.
See, this right here is my only knock against 40K. The Sisters of Battle and the original Tau fluff where some of the least grimdark parts of the game. Sure the Sisters served the Imperium, but the Sister's themselves were all but above corruption. Only a handful in thousands of years. The Sisters, like the original Tau fluff actually gave the game "good guys." But you cannot have something in 40K apparently that is in any way hopeful. Same thing is happening to Age of Sigmar. Not everything has to be grimdark to have conflict.
Wouldn't the easiest answer be that one of the sisters who accompanied Sethano and survived the fight with the demon prince in the catacombs on Mistral (See "Imperial Creed," by David Anannandale) succumbs to the taint and slowly worked to spread it amongst her sisters? Although it isn't said outright, it is pretty much implied that the same thing happened to Yarrick's mentor Lord Commissar Rask after he survived the same ordeal.
That is a decent possibility :)
@@40KTheories Thanks man!
Gotta love those loopholes ;)
Another possibility is that they fell under the influence of Drukari.
I know it's a bit off topic, but have any of the Wulfen or marines that have succumbed to the black rage or Red Thirst fallen to Chaos?
@Anzu Wyliei but can they fall to Chaos after they have been afflicted by the Curse of the Wulfen, the Red Thirst or Black Rage?
They found out about the Fallen, and Azrael had a psyker possess her to have her ask for her order to be destroyed
*[The Neon Defenders Would like to talk]*
What if the Cannoness was corrupted and ordered the raising of the order to eliminate the loose ends?
12:37 that’s some first legion shit right there
How quickly do genestealers multiply to four generations? Do they gestate like a normal human or is it extremely ramped up?
Genestealer Hybrids grow ridiculously fast. According to "The Greater Evil" a T'au/Genestealer hybrid was the size of a pre-teen child after just 3 weeks.
I always hated the order of Genestealer genetics work. It seems like it is opposite of what it should be. Becoming more Genestealer like the more generations in not more human like.
They had become infected with the taint of P’mp-khan Sp’ce. Those who fall much be purged.
The Great Red Dragon 87 It’s cinnamon and nutmeg for Isha’s sake! There’s no reason it can’t be available year round!
Peter Nickle by the Emperor, another has fallen!!! *arms bolt pistol*