That what I told my last company when they didn’t want to send me my last check, I told them I wanted my check by the end of the day or I was going straight to the labor board… next thing you know an hour later a handwritten check from the owner was in my mailbox 😂😂😂 I don’t f around
My wife told me this happened to her and she told the person well I'm sorry I don't have money to fill my gas to make it to my next shift. So when they get me my money I'll be able to make it back to work. It wasn't immediate but she was paid in a separate check earlier than the next on the matter
@@supercaptainbatdoggy Economy is booming. Unemployment is at lowest sustained level in 50 years. Inflation in the last 3 1/2 years is 40% was leftover pandemic supply chain, 53% from corporate greedflation charging higher rates for the same products than before the pandemic, and 7% from other sources such as government spending. And guess what, the republicans stopped any attempt by the Dems at windfall profits taxes on the corps who've been raping Americans wallets. Say thanks to the morbidly wealth and the republicans for the majority of our inflation
This happened at a manufacturing plant I worked at except, everyone was shorted $50 for some insane reason. We ALL went to the front office and let them know if we were not paid in one hour we would walk out the door and we would let the other shifts know about it. We got our money.
Actually you can occupy your work station (depending on local laws of course) and refuse work and refuse to leave making that station unproductive, since you are exercising your right you haven't clocked out so it is also OT.
I’ve had a short paycheck and a boss who couldn’t be bothered to make up the shortage in a timely manner. Since I couldn’t get him to pay me I took him to court and got what I was owed + damages and court costs. I got fired soon after but It was worth watching the judge lay into him and seeing the angry look he had on his face when he handed me the check.
@@terrycuyler5659 Should have sued him again for illegal termination. That's obviously retaliation. Typical awards are 3x lost pay while you're looking for a new job.
Yeah, they'd try their best to jam her up for stealing, but I know in my country if it goes to an industrial tribunal the employer would be reprimanded for shorting her salary and would more than likely call it squits, & she'd get to keep her job.
@@Moneystayswithme wish I lived in your country then In mine, I’d be lucky to just get fired But I’d almost certainly have charges pressed against me as well
It wouldn't happen in a lot of countries because workers have protection against this kind of stuff. The union would have a field day with a case like this in my country and I think they would give her the money while they sorted it out in court, if it went that far.
You can’t pull that “it’ll be on your next paycheck in California”. Employees have the Labor Board on speed dial 😂😂. We keep checks in the office. Veronica is savage though ✌🏾
There were so many times my paychecks were short with a promise of “next paycheck”. Wouldn’t ya know, there were more taxes taken so it came out less that what was initially short. Crooks!!!
That's... just not how taxes work. Getting the money late can suck, but the amount you pay for taxes on two $1k paychecks vs. $800+$1200 paychecks is exactly the same.
@@ytadventurer9170 it's supposed to be the same rate, yes, but the amounts are not the same when it comes to you net pay. Trust me, it's a not balanced figure. When I get extra pay on my check the taxes is extra. If they separated the check you would see more net pay on the extra money.
@@ytadventurer9170Yep, you're right! Most people don't understand how taxes work. I have a job that has no set hours so I may work a lot of hours one week, and only a few the next. The taxes deducted reflect this. But those are JUST DEDUCTIONS, not the actual taxes. When I file my taxes, the tax amount is based on my total income for the year and I get a refund or have to pay depending. I prefer to pay so that I'm not loaning the government money throughout the year.
I’ll just call the electric company and let them know their $200 is coming next month! Cuz they really act like “we can’t do anything “ yeah clearly you can’t even process monthly pay correctly, no wonder fixing ur mistake is too difficult.
Ok, but if your check was $200 short, you paid less tax on that check. And if on your next check you end up paying more tax, it still has nothing to do with the total tax you owe at the end of the year. If you overpaid, you get a refund, if you underpaid, you get to send the goverment even more money.
@@marychrishannon7048I don't freely give interest-free loans to anyone. If you get paid $200 extra dollars on 1 paycheck, that bumps your effective tax rate up by $10,400 for that paycheck ($200 x 52 weeks) which may put you in a different tax bracket. Whatever money taken on that paycheck as taxes belongs to the government for up to 16 months, you can't get it back or otherwise use it to pay bills or live until the following April. It doesn't work out in your favor, don't spread misinformation if you don't understand how hourly taxes and payroll work. Anyone taking your advice will end up with less money for the rest of the year until tax day, and most people need every dollar they can get.
It might, to a VERY SMALL level, increase your marginal tax rate. But at the same time it LOWERED your tax rate for this week. Unless the amount underpaid is a large portion of your income, the difference will be pennies. Progressive tax rates only have a few steps, so its unlikely for $200 to change the rate at all. And the truth is that in April when you file your tax return any small diffetence will be refunded. It sucks if you live literally paycheck to paycheck to be shorted a $, but in the end, it costs you nothing in taxes. So, unless this happens regularly, its a dumb solution to commit theft, lose your job and get a criminal record. And yes, it IS firing to remove company assets and sell them, even to settle a legitimate wages dispute. Far better to quit and demand severance for 'constructive firing'. Even in the US, failing to pay a worker on time is considered unjust termination.
As much as she has a right to be angry - and I would be furious - stealing from the company would get most people fired, regardless of the reason. I certainly wouldn’t have a job anymore if I did this at my employer. Satisfying to imagine, though. 😊
@@user-kpkxgtj ROFLMFAO. Rooting for Veronica? That character is living in a whole other universe than ours. Oh wait. she's a cartoon character. Never mind. AND - never take her advice - at least not if you want to keep your job that is. Well maybe in commiefornia you could get away with it. Maybe.
@@user-kpkxgtjyeah. It’s too bad that these clips have veered from good advice for knowing. Your rights and standing up for yourself to advocating for theft which will almost certainly get you fired and potentially arrested.
The correct way to respond to this is "no pay, no work". No further work will be provided until outstanding debts have been resolved. Time will still be billed as normal.
I have had this happen to me - I had to literally fight for every mileage check..I eventually left the company, but went to DLLR..Funny how the money suddenly showed up...
As a supervisor, i always hated when the company would ask employees to work overtime, because invariably, mistakes would be made on at least one guys check, and i'd have to calm the guy down until i got payroll to correct it. I dont think it was ever intentional, our payroll supervisor was devastated whrn she made a mistake. But so many companies dont get that messing with a guy's beer money is a cardinal sin, and having a policy like "our next check run is next week" is complete bullshit. YOU made the mistake, YOU FIND A WAY TO FIX IT, NOW.
Living in a two-party consent state, I would bring in an obvious recording device, set it down, press Play, and state "For the record..." before getting into the nitty-gritty of whatever the problem is.
Yeah in the US of A, It'll be taken care of 6-12 months later and after 2-3 hearings before a hearing board and then a judge. Then the business can drag iut out all the way until you come with constables and start seizing stuff.
@@TheHiredGun187 probably similar here. Actually, funny enough, they shorted my cheque last week by $100. I asked my employer about it but they just ignored my email. The only thing I can think of is because I took two sick days in the pay period but I'm not sure why it makes sense to pay me less money while I'm sick... It's wrong for a number of reasons and I'm paycheck to paycheck as it is so.... Hopefully they pay me the right amount soon. If it's the sick days, I'll never take another sick day again.
@@GingerBreadMan144sir, you need to read your company policy on sick leave. If it's not their policy, and they paid you less for it, their policy is your contract, and they broke it. An email can be ignored or "accidentally" deleted. Go to your supervisor and tell him or her, in person, about the problem. Tell him or her that you will be sending a recap email, right after your meeting. Your supervisor should at least be able to get you information on why your check was short. It's ignore you if you go in person, and the email recap is your proof you talked to him.
@@thincrediblewho they got back to me. It's policy and I agreed to it by signing the contract. Shitty company... Why the frig would they even do that? So lame. I can't ever be sick.
Nah if they don’t pay me by the end of that notification work day, then every other day it’s late there will be a late fee added onto that $200.00. Okaaaay !
This. There's no reason, if they knew there was a problem before she talked to her manager, they wouldn't have been able to figure out a reasonable solution. It is against the law to not pay someone for their labor, when you have an agreement. So, while Veronica taking things from the company and selling them is not a good idea, and we all understand the frustration that drove her to it. This shouldn't have been at issue. Yeah, if their solution is to add the pay into the next paycheck, then they should be willing to agree to a "small interest addition" to cover the things that would hev been paid with that money. If my rent bounces because I was shorted, the company is the reason for all those penalty fees and should be willing to cover that sort of expense because of their eff-up.
@@marychrishannon7048 That's a shame. It would be lovely if they would pay for whatever problems their mistake caused because you expected the pay, but I understand that legal matters aren't the same as "gosh, it'd be nice".
I know the stealing is not a real suggestion and they should probably put a disclaimer for people whose brains take things literally... But boy is she cutthroat. I love these Veronika skits.
Yep. You do NOT get the upper hand by stealing. Two wrongs don't make it right. Keep demanding your money. They can get it to you within 24 hours. I know because I've been in that boat before.
@@hellstromcarbunkle8857 No the manager won't. An issue was brought to her attention and she followed the correct channels to get that money back to her as soon as she could. Veronika is reasonably upset, and acted out in a malicious and illegal manner. Veronika is going to jail alone.
Yeah, this is definitely one of the more over-the-top comedic ones versus one of the more practical ones (like the stuff about keeping detailed records of convos to make sure folks can't slander and gaslight you quite as easily).
The supervisor should have caught the time clock issue prior to approving her timesheet. The issue could have been rectified before payroll was processed for the pay period.
Veronica gets fired and prosecuted for theft, spending a night in jail before spending savings or maxing out a credit card to bond out…she hires a criminal defense attorney and an employment lawyer, going into massive debt. She sues the employer for wage theft and retaliatory discharge, litigation takes two years, she loses her car and her apartment. She eventually wins a little money. The lawyers make bank. The End.
PS: Theft is no solution and a crime on top. You can take interest rates on the money they owe you, if it is possible, and instead discussing this with the manager - who has no power over that situation at all, you could go straight to paycheck department and sort it out with the right people
Usually Veronica would have a smarter solution to her situation, like going to HR, but straight up stealing wasn't really the best option here. Not really a valuable lesson. She's just going to go to jail.
lol, maybe in your state (assuming you live in the state of Confusion). This is a civil matter. Think about it. People would get mad at their employer and have the cops come arrest people all the time. When I was in the Army decades ago, they did this sort of thing ALL THE TIME. I once just didn’t get paid for half a month and never recovered it. I know lots of vets the Army ripped off.
You cant 'have them arrested' because of a payroll error. You have no comprehension how police operate (its not as your debt collector) Your choice is to negotiate, go to your state department of labor wages and hours division, or quit and sue them.
@@werewolf1336 how many times did you change duty stations? I was active 88 to 92. It happened when I came back from Korea. There were delays on other changes. I suspect there was a whole different system in the 70’s. You guys likely got paid based on where you were on payday by the local finance unit and they balanced it later. We were paid from some central office and they had all sorts of checks and balances.
If you work for an organization where there is so little trust between you and the administration, you need to move on. Trying to take justice into your own hands presents all kinds of legal problems, and believe me, if you have to go to court over it, the court does not pay you to hang out for many hours trying to get justice. You will end up losing a lot of time as well as your money. And if you steal from those you perceive as theives, they are better at it than you, and you will end up in misery, and lose. Move on if you are in such a bad-trust situation. It's better to be unemployed than to be employed by someone you perceive as an enemy.
Don't commit a crime in retaliation for a crime. File a complaint with the Federal Labor Relations Authority (FRLA). They take payroll shenanigans SERIOUSLY. They tend to come in assuming the employee was the damaged party.
I had this happen to me once when I worked at a bank. They shorted me $120. I brought it up with my manager and she said I would get my shortage the next pay period. Oh, so the bank can be late paying me without penalty, but if I'm late on my credit card payment I get charged a late fee and it gets reported to the credit bureaus? Make it make sense!
Although I wish this was a solution, the law doesn’t see it like that. The way they see it is that she should have went to small claims courts and sued them for the money. All Veronica did was her getting arrested. Unfortunately 😒, deep down in my bones I wish we could do this. 😣
The thing is she would have her money in 2 weeks, and it takes longer than that to get a court date. It sucks, but not worth getting fire to get all final pay in 72 hours, plus possible jail time and penalties.
Stealing is stealing, you can't steal company stuff over a salary dispute. She's gonna get axed for this and no judge will decide differently. That said, the company of course can send/give/wire her the money immediately. It might take a day or two to get processed. Important thing is to make it clear to the employee that they are taken seriously and a mistake is corrected.
@@aff77141 A salary dispute is not stealing. They are going to give her the money, just later, which sucks. They should have wired it as soon as the mistake was discovered. Mistakes get made. Stealing is deliberate.
A judge is going to take issue with violation of labor laws as well. Payroll policy is anchored on binding labor contracts - you can’t just choose to pay your employees whenever you want and make no effort to address any unforeseen payroll issues. Taking 200 dollars worth of stuff over “a salary dispute” is a whole subjective perspective and you’re more than entitled to it, but really the biggest legal liability is the labor law violation more so than mitigating item taking. A good lawyer would have a field day with Janet and this entire corporation
You do not get to pick how you are compensated. I would have contacted payroll directly. Usually the managers do not know what options payroll has to correct the problem. $200 is enough money that the payroll department should consider getting the money to you today or tomorrow.
Well they can definitely issue the 200 now as a special circumstance. Taking 200 dollars worth of stuff would be criminal. It sucks but there are legal remedies
irony this happened to me and my boss did same got on my next pay check. then he gave me money to cover my bills and groceries until that next check came in and pay him back. irony company shorted him as well.
This incident is raising concerns about this company’s competency as a valid and honest employer. I think I will need to start looking for other companies that can handle simple payroll mistakes in a timely manner and also have a discussion with the labor board and my lawyer.
Oooh no 🤣 Veronica just picked up a whole theft charge 🤣 2 wrongs don’t make a right is a real legal precedent… but some hypothetical judge will be the one to let Veronica know that though. 😁✌️ Veronica would need a receipt to prove she only took $200 worth of stuff to protect herself, but idk officer… she didn’t ring out and she may have taken $1000s worth 🤷♂️
Stealing out of spite is a malicious act and is prosecutable. Whereas a clerical error is an error and can be argued it wasn't malicious, even if it was. You have to prove it was malicious. Don't steal like Veronica. That was a bad move.
In the UK Veronica would be dismissed, even if employees are owed money they have to wait until the next payroll cycle. Theft is classed as gross misconduct.
I used to work in payroll and this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Mistakes sometimes happen. No one in payroll is out to steal an employees money. Employees can and do communicate directly with payroll, they don't need a manager to do it for them. I've always apologized to the employee and done a correction as soon as possible. Which was usually by the end of the workday, unless there was a system error I couldn't get fixed immediately. Approaching the issue calmly and without hostility goes a long way in getting things fixed quickly. Taking company property is never the solution and could in fact get you arrested.
I don't get from this dialog that it is a manager but rather an overseer of "payroll department" (don't know how you call it). Of course mistakes happen but they are better accepted when responsability is taken, not hidden and communication is open, not fake. This has just happen for the 2nd time for me. Multiple employees are affected but not with the same amount. They say nothing after being made aware. They count on people not noticing! Plus, an employee is overdrown. She has no proposition for help/support, no empathy shown, not even an answer! The company might lose money because of mishaps but the employee might also get electricity cut or her children unable to eat at school. The consequences are way worse and immediate for the employee. She at least deserves consideration and appropriate excuses. Clearly that's not the intent. They were quicker to reach out daily when it was time to sell the unused company car.
I know this is a skit but that company will have you prosecuted and depending on the type of job, you wouldnt be able to get another job in the same field. Alot of jobs run background checks and as soon as they see theft conviction. Nope...
I don't know why I was expecting this to turn out as a Family Guy parody of the episode in which Brian owing Stewie money and Stewie beats the crap out of him twice. "Where's my money?! I want my money man. I'm tired of you ducking me man. You got money for Starbucks. Where's my money?!"
Why attribute to malice what can be easily explained by ineptitude? The most likely scenario is that they are incompetent and didn’t file the paperwork for the extra $200 she earned in time.
What she did was wrong. She should have gone the legal route and called the labor board. This is one where I think she should be fired and arrested for theft.
A Poster said something like,"I don't know what happened to these Veronica skits. The Veronica skits USED to be good, talking about Employee rights and a standiing up for yourself with work related problems and are now are advocating THEFT from workplaces because of a paycheck shortage that would lead to termination and jail time in real life! ☢️
As shite as it is, failing to add certain hours to paycheque is not a criminal offence, but stealing is. Deal with it like a mature adult, or risk going to jail for petty revenge. Report them, make it go viral on social media, whatever. But don’t commit an offence for the sake of 200
Me and a buddy worked in the kitchen of a fancy resort when we were just out of school. One Friday night both our paychecks bounced at the local bank along with about half the employees. My buddy and I went back to the resort office and grabbed two selectric typewriters and put them in our car. The manager came chasing after us and I told her they would cover our paychecks at a pawnshop. She gave us cash up front and we told her she better weld them IBM's down to the table if she planned on any more of our checks bouncing.
Veronika would relocate her boss's office to the dirty, dusty, dank warehouse and move into her boss's office. Veronika would also bill the company for moving expenses and labor in addition to the $200. Veronika would be staying in that office until the boss coughed up the $200 or until payroll cuts that check. Two weeks in a cushy corner office for the inconvenience? Oh, yeah - that's Veronika's style!
Im a bookkeeper and there is no reason anyone should have to wait for the next paycheck unless they just dont care. You advance the employee the amount, minus taxes, then add the missing hours to the next paycheck, then subtract the reimbursement. Simple. All comes out in the wash, and everyone has what theyre owed timely.
Sorry to say this, but if your household budget is configured in a way that you are living paycheck to paycheck to the extent that you literally can't do without $200 for 2 more weeks until your next paycheck, you need to examine your finances. Not saying I'd be happy about a payroll mistake, but mistakes happen. She's going to get her money on the next paycheck, it's not the end of the world. Maybe Veronica can look at cutbacks with some of her discretionary spending, or maybe do some Uber and Lyft driving for a few extra bucks in cash until she saves up a bit of a reserve. I know it's tough in this economy, but it's worth giving that a try. Everyone should have several months worth of expenses saved up in a bank account just in case.
Bruh. How much someone has in their account is a moot point. When you earn the money, it is not unreasonable to expect to be paid. It's only $200, right? Why not just write out a check from discretionary funds and pay the employee? Surely they have enough in their emergency account to cover it!
@@ladywytch129 It depends on the company, their cash flow systems and payroll procedures. Some small mom 'n pop companies can probably just say, "oops, didn't mean to shortchange you there, bucky! Let me send a quick DM to our in-house payroll processor and have her print a new check for you to pick up this afternoon." Other companies might use payroll firms like ADP which have procedural or contractual limits in their agreements with employers which won't allow them to do special check runs. Each situation may be unique. Either way, yes...the employer's payroll department screwed up, but also you're living too close to the edge if you can't live without $200 for 14 days.
"Everyone should have several months worth of expenses saved up in a bank account just in case" Yeah, you clearly have no idea what it's like working in the real world and probably haven't for many, many decades if you ever did.
This happened to most of our shop, they went on the PA and announced it. Told us to fill out a sheet and it will be fixed by next check. We went on 4th of July break and when we came back the plant had been auctioned. We also lost our upcoming paycheck in addition to our earlier shortage. The IRS wouldn't even let me claim it as a loss as it wasn't enough. It was a months paychecks.
This is the only animation channel endorsed by the real veronika. You can report and click "not recommend" on all the others. Just wanted to send this here and boost engagement since only they had the courtesy to contact the person behind thexoriginal content and cut a deal with her. Cheers everyone.
I had this happen. The funny thing is that the system the company used...hit EVERYONE and docked a full days pay because the timecard system didnt register anyone. The head office had to cut an emergency check for everyone at our office within 12 hours. Then it happen again, but hit 4 other stores. At that point the office has us use old time cards as a secondary once the first time happens, just to have a physical paper trail. All roads lead to the software payroll was using and had a subscription license. Lets just say the company had to settle our of court( our company sued the payroll company for issues around the system), we got a new payroll system. However the company also instituted monthly audits using both digital and physical time cards.
Dollar stores try the crap at times. I learned that threatening legal action straightens their loser asses up. You pay what you owe your workers or it WILL cost you a bunch more than that.
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I'd give them 24 hours to give me my money and if they didn't then they could have a nice little conversation with the labor board.
That what I told my last company when they didn’t want to send me my last check, I told them I wanted my check by the end of the day or I was going straight to the labor board… next thing you know an hour later a handwritten check from the owner was in my mailbox 😂😂😂 I don’t f around
If the employee is union, there’s that option.
@@joannpriepke7938doesn’t matter if it’s union or not, not paying on time is a HUGE no-no, and any company with sane legal advice doesn’t do that.
Unless you live in a right to work state.
@@joannpriepke7938you are mistaken. You don’t have to be in a union for the labor board to support you and go after the company.
My wife told me this happened to her and she told the person well I'm sorry I don't have money to fill my gas to make it to my next shift. So when they get me my money I'll be able to make it back to work. It wasn't immediate but she was paid in a separate check earlier than the next on the matter
Talk about literally living one paycheck to the next.
Thank you inflation and the economy.
@@supercaptainbatdoggydoesn’t matter if you actually need the check for gas, the point is clear.
But she was using the gas excuse as a way to get the money.
Hey whatever works. XD
That's the way to do it not the silly example in the video
@@supercaptainbatdoggy Economy is booming. Unemployment is at lowest sustained level in 50 years. Inflation in the last 3 1/2 years is 40% was leftover pandemic supply chain, 53% from corporate greedflation charging higher rates for the same products than before the pandemic, and 7% from other sources such as government spending. And guess what, the republicans stopped any attempt by the Dems at windfall profits taxes on the corps who've been raping Americans wallets. Say thanks to the morbidly wealth and the republicans for the majority of our inflation
This happened at a manufacturing plant I worked at except, everyone was shorted $50 for some insane reason. We ALL went to the front office and let them know if we were not paid in one hour we would walk out the door and we would let the other shifts know about it. We got our money.
Way to hustle payroll ! 👏🏻😂
Love collective action
This is why unions are important.
Actually you can occupy your work station (depending on local laws of course) and refuse work and refuse to leave making that station unproductive, since you are exercising your right you haven't clocked out so it is also OT.
@alexia3552 only way workers can fight corporations.
Mail a check to my house? Gurl, I am standing RIGHT HERE!
I didn’t mail my work you not finna mail me my check
Well... im going home to wait for that check... I'll be back once I cash it😂😂😂
I’ve had a short paycheck and a boss who couldn’t be bothered to make up the shortage in a timely manner. Since I couldn’t get him to pay me I took him to court and got what I was owed + damages and court costs. I got fired soon after but It was worth watching the judge lay into him and seeing the angry look he had on his face when he handed me the check.
Wow good for you.
You are an absolute icon for this. I love you.
You can also sue for retaliation
Retaliation firing
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Should have sued him again for illegal termination. That's obviously retaliation. Typical awards are 3x lost pay while you're looking for a new job.
No nonsense Veronica. Great action in theory, but in real life, it would be a problem.
Think of this as... visual venting lmfao
Yeah, they'd try their best to jam her up for stealing, but I know in my country if it goes to an industrial tribunal the employer would be reprimanded for shorting her salary and would more than likely call it squits, & she'd get to keep her job.
@@Moneystayswithme wish I lived in your country then
In mine, I’d be lucky to just get fired
But I’d almost certainly have charges pressed against me as well
It wouldn't happen in a lot of countries because workers have protection against this kind of stuff. The union would have a field day with a case like this in my country and I think they would give her the money while they sorted it out in court, if it went that far.
Yes it would definitely cause a problem in real life.
"Add the $200 for pain & suffering"
Well she did have to hustle to get that $200 back
I hear Tony Soprano with the gardeners feud
You can’t pull that “it’ll be on your next paycheck in California”. Employees have the Labor Board on speed dial 😂😂. We keep checks in the office. Veronica is savage though ✌🏾
We need that in all states
@ It would be great all around 👍🏻
There were so many times my paychecks were short with a promise of “next paycheck”. Wouldn’t ya know, there were more taxes taken so it came out less that what was initially short. Crooks!!!
Exactly... the more you make, the more IRS will take. So, to them it would like your income went up 200 more, and then you would pay more taxes.
That's... just not how taxes work. Getting the money late can suck, but the amount you pay for taxes on two $1k paychecks vs. $800+$1200 paychecks is exactly the same.
@@ytadventurer9170 it's supposed to be the same rate, yes, but the amounts are not the same when it comes to you net pay. Trust me, it's a not balanced figure. When I get extra pay on my check the taxes is extra. If they separated the check you would see more net pay on the extra money.
Exactly :-((
@@ytadventurer9170Yep, you're right! Most people don't understand how taxes work. I have a job that has no set hours so I may work a lot of hours one week, and only a few the next. The taxes deducted reflect this. But those are JUST DEDUCTIONS, not the actual taxes. When I file my taxes, the tax amount is based on my total income for the year and I get a refund or have to pay depending. I prefer to pay so that I'm not loaning the government money throughout the year.
I’ll just call the electric company and let them know their $200 is coming next month! Cuz they really act like “we can’t do anything “ yeah clearly you can’t even process monthly pay correctly, no wonder fixing ur mistake is too difficult.
Never let them add to next paycheque, it messes up the tax rate and it’s never to your advantage.
Exactly I know that’s right!!
Ok, but if your check was $200 short, you paid less tax on that check. And if on your next check you end up paying more tax, it still has nothing to do with the total tax you owe at the end of the year. If you overpaid, you get a refund, if you underpaid, you get to send the goverment even more money.
From experience, it can also screw with your insurance.
@@marychrishannon7048I don't freely give interest-free loans to anyone. If you get paid $200 extra dollars on 1 paycheck, that bumps your effective tax rate up by $10,400 for that paycheck ($200 x 52 weeks) which may put you in a different tax bracket. Whatever money taken on that paycheck as taxes belongs to the government for up to 16 months, you can't get it back or otherwise use it to pay bills or live until the following April.
It doesn't work out in your favor, don't spread misinformation if you don't understand how hourly taxes and payroll work. Anyone taking your advice will end up with less money for the rest of the year until tax day, and most people need every dollar they can get.
It might, to a VERY SMALL level, increase your marginal tax rate. But at the same time it LOWERED your tax rate for this week. Unless the amount underpaid is a large portion of your income, the difference will be pennies. Progressive tax rates only have a few steps, so its unlikely for $200 to change the rate at all. And the truth is that in April when you file your tax return any small diffetence will be refunded. It sucks if you live literally paycheck to paycheck to be shorted a $, but in the end, it costs you nothing in taxes. So, unless this happens regularly, its a dumb solution to commit theft, lose your job and get a criminal record. And yes, it IS firing to remove company assets and sell them, even to settle a legitimate wages dispute. Far better to quit and demand severance for 'constructive firing'. Even in the US, failing to pay a worker on time is considered unjust termination.
After this convo security would have definitely been escorting me directly off the premises
😂😢😭😭
Ive been escorted off for checking bihs
As much as she has a right to be angry - and I would be furious - stealing from the company would get most people fired, regardless of the reason. I certainly wouldn’t have a job anymore if I did this at my employer. Satisfying to imagine, though. 😊
Could even get her arrested. Not a smart move.
Yeah, these clips are entertaining and I stay rooting for Veronica, but this particular one is definitely "don't try this at home" material.
@@user-kpkxgtj ROFLMFAO. Rooting for Veronica? That character is living in a whole other universe than ours. Oh wait. she's a cartoon character. Never mind. AND - never take her advice - at least not if you want to keep your job that is. Well maybe in commiefornia you could get away with it. Maybe.
@@werewolf1336nope you couldn't. In California however they do have strict rules for getting employees paid on time
@@user-kpkxgtjyeah. It’s too bad that these clips have veered from good advice for knowing.
Your rights and standing up for yourself to advocating for theft which will almost certainly get you fired and potentially arrested.
The correct way to respond to this is "no pay, no work".
No further work will be provided until outstanding debts have been resolved. Time will still be billed as normal.
When Veronica said, "It's 24 later, so where is my money?", did anyone else see that Family Guy scene of Stewie beating up Brian, in their heads?
That's exactly where my mind went when see said 24 hours lol
Yesss 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Turn into Rihanna!!! lol!
Literally the first thing that came to my mind lol I thought she was gonna take a bat to her 😂
"Mornin'!"
"Good day to you sir...HEY! WAIT A MINUTE!!!"
I get that she was shorted $200. But theft is NEVER an option.
I agree, but it did start with wage theft
Veronica is savage AF
😂😂😂yes
Veronica is an idiot.
I love that next paycheck line sure I'll pay double tax
Smiled at the camera and peace sign 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh my god Veronikaaaaa I can’t stop laughing 😅😅😅
OOOHHH hellll Noooo!!
Figure it out! Or you'll be sorry!
Veronica handled this like a boss!! 😂
Taking $200 of merch, regardless of the shortage on the paycheck, would be theft. A better solution would be to take it up with the labor board.
A duh
Yep and it should be sorted in about 4 months.
So many comments on these shorts talking about some fantasy "labor board" that magically makes everything better with a snap of the fingers.
She should have taken more than the $200 to cover the time she had to spend on eBay to make up the loss.
I have had this happen to me - I had to literally fight for every mileage check..I eventually left the company, but went to DLLR..Funny how the money suddenly showed up...
DLLR?
@@dilettanter Labour department
The place i worked for did this frequently. Said they will add it on next pay check
, but they would 'forget' to do it and hope i did not notice
Wowwww 😢😡🤬
As a supervisor, i always hated when the company would ask employees to work overtime, because invariably, mistakes would be made on at least one guys check, and i'd have to calm the guy down until i got payroll to correct it. I dont think it was ever intentional, our payroll supervisor was devastated whrn she made a mistake. But so many companies dont get that messing with a guy's beer money is a cardinal sin, and having a policy like "our next check run is next week" is complete bullshit. YOU made the mistake, YOU FIND A WAY TO FIX IT, NOW.
Living in a two-party consent state, I would bring in an obvious recording device, set it down, press Play, and state "For the record..." before getting into the nitty-gritty of whatever the problem is.
Hopefully BEFORE you resort of theft right?
Veronica just got fired and earned herself some jail time 😂
This is not how this works, so I agree with this.
Of course, the fines and consequences the company face for failure to pay would be such that they wouldn’t pursue that if they’re smart.
😂😂😂 This girl is FIRED!
In Canada you can just tell the labor board and they'll take care of it
Yeah in the US of A, It'll be taken care of 6-12 months later and after 2-3 hearings before a hearing board and then a judge. Then the business can drag iut out all the way until you come with constables and start seizing stuff.
@@TheHiredGun187 probably similar here. Actually, funny enough, they shorted my cheque last week by $100. I asked my employer about it but they just ignored my email. The only thing I can think of is because I took two sick days in the pay period but I'm not sure why it makes sense to pay me less money while I'm sick... It's wrong for a number of reasons and I'm paycheck to paycheck as it is so.... Hopefully they pay me the right amount soon. If it's the sick days, I'll never take another sick day again.
@@GingerBreadMan144sir, you need to read your company policy on sick leave. If it's not their policy, and they paid you less for it, their policy is your contract, and they broke it.
An email can be ignored or "accidentally" deleted.
Go to your supervisor and tell him or her, in person, about the problem. Tell him or her that you will be sending a recap email, right after your meeting.
Your supervisor should at least be able to get you information on why your check was short. It's ignore you if you go in person, and the email recap is your proof you talked to him.
@@thincrediblewho they got back to me. It's policy and I agreed to it by signing the contract. Shitty company... Why the frig would they even do that? So lame. I can't ever be sick.
@@GingerBreadMan144I'm curious as to what type of work you do that you expect to be paid for days you didn't show up???
Management don't short change their monies, and I don't play with mine money. I need my money now!!! Not the next paycheck.
OMG WTF are u trying to say? Did u have a stroke?
Nah if they don’t pay me by the end of that notification work day, then every other day it’s late there will be a late fee added onto that $200.00.
Okaaaay !
This. There's no reason, if they knew there was a problem before she talked to her manager, they wouldn't have been able to figure out a reasonable solution. It is against the law to not pay someone for their labor, when you have an agreement. So, while Veronica taking things from the company and selling them is not a good idea, and we all understand the frustration that drove her to it. This shouldn't have been at issue.
Yeah, if their solution is to add the pay into the next paycheck, then they should be willing to agree to a "small interest addition" to cover the things that would hev been paid with that money. If my rent bounces because I was shorted, the company is the reason for all those penalty fees and should be willing to cover that sort of expense because of their eff-up.
@@goldengryphon Having worked in payroll, the company does not need to compensate with extra money for the inconvenience. Period.
@@marychrishannon7048 That's a shame.
It would be lovely if they would pay for whatever problems their mistake caused because you expected the pay, but I understand that legal matters aren't the same as "gosh, it'd be nice".
@@goldengryphon True
@user-wn5cn4ue2j: Good luck collecting that late fee .
“I was just coming to find you???” B!! You must be crazy! 😂
Did she steal the target shopping cart too? 😅 I ❤ her
Yeah. Companies play games. Any company messes with my pay is the day I leave.
Peace sign and smile for the camera had me rolling.
Veronica just got fired 😏
She was nice giving them 24hrs 😂😂😂. That happened to me once I made them give me a company check that day 😂😂😂.
I know the stealing is not a real suggestion and they should probably put a disclaimer for people whose brains take things literally... But boy is she cutthroat. I love these Veronika skits.
I totally get it. And I'm usually Team Veronica, even as a HR person. But I can't cosign on how she recouped her $200😂
I bet you everybody checks in HR weren't short😂😂😂
Veronica went too far this time.
Give that lady her money 💴
Yeah that gets you fired and arrested.
Yep. You do NOT get the upper hand by stealing. Two wrongs don't make it right. Keep demanding your money. They can get it to you within 24 hours. I know because I've been in that boat before.
@@KimberlyLetsGo She tried that. The company is stealing. Period. O.K. she'll be arrested. And so will manager. NOT negotiable.
@@hellstromcarbunkle8857 No the manager won't. An issue was brought to her attention and she followed the correct channels to get that money back to her as soon as she could. Veronika is reasonably upset, and acted out in a malicious and illegal manner. Veronika is going to jail alone.
@@hellstromcarbunkle8857 I hope you have bail money!
Yeah, this is definitely one of the more over-the-top comedic ones versus one of the more practical ones (like the stuff about keeping detailed records of convos to make sure folks can't slander and gaslight you quite as easily).
Veronica goes to jail
I have bills due now.. write me a check and hand it to me tf
The supervisor should have caught the time clock issue prior to approving her timesheet. The issue could have been rectified before payroll was processed for the pay period.
Yep. But coulda, woulda, shoulda. Life happens and companies have procedures for this problem.
Veronica gets fired and prosecuted for theft, spending a night in jail before spending savings or maxing out a credit card to bond out…she hires a criminal defense attorney and an employment lawyer, going into massive debt. She sues the employer for wage theft and retaliatory discharge, litigation takes two years, she loses her car and her apartment. She eventually wins a little money. The lawyers make bank. The End.
PS: Theft is no solution and a crime on top. You can take interest rates on the money they owe you, if it is possible, and instead discussing this with the manager - who has no power over that situation at all, you could go straight to paycheck department and sort it out with the right people
Usually Veronica would have a smarter solution to her situation, like going to HR, but straight up stealing wasn't really the best option here. Not really a valuable lesson. She's just going to go to jail.
FEMA?
@@calisongbird I just looked it up and realized my mistake. Lol
Omg i had this issue at my last job ALL THE DAMN TIME and reacted the same way.... except the company theft and they called me Veronica every time 😂😂😂
200 dollars is written $200, not 200$.
Not really it depends on what country you're in. In Britain they put the currency symbol after the number.
time to go to the labor board
Legally a check needs to be cut immediately. Other than that, have them arrested.
lol, maybe in your state (assuming you live in the state of Confusion). This is a civil matter. Think about it. People would get mad at their employer and have the cops come arrest people all the time.
When I was in the Army decades ago, they did this sort of thing ALL THE TIME. I once just didn’t get paid for half a month and never recovered it. I know lots of vets the Army ripped off.
You cant 'have them arrested' because of a payroll error. You have no comprehension how police operate (its not as your debt collector) Your choice is to negotiate, go to your state department of labor wages and hours division, or quit and sue them.
@@nunyabidness3075 DAMN! Were we in the same Army (USA - '71 thru '74) Never happened to me once in 3 years of service.
@@werewolf1336 how many times did you change duty stations? I was active 88 to 92. It happened when I came back from Korea. There were delays on other changes. I suspect there was a whole different system in the 70’s. You guys likely got paid based on where you were on payday by the local finance unit and they balanced it later. We were paid from some central office and they had all sorts of checks and balances.
J u st call the labor board. Veronica will get in trouble otherwise.
Depends on what country you live in as to whether there's a "labor board" to call.
Veronica is gonna be fired😅
If you work for an organization where there is so little trust between you and the administration, you need to move on. Trying to take justice into your own hands presents all kinds of legal problems, and believe me, if you have to go to court over it, the court does not pay you to hang out for many hours trying to get justice. You will end up losing a lot of time as well as your money. And if you steal from those you perceive as theives, they are better at it than you, and you will end up in misery, and lose. Move on if you are in such a bad-trust situation. It's better to be unemployed than to be employed by someone you perceive as an enemy.
Veronica youre so weong here girl. she should be fired. I will fire her….
Next time Veronica won’t be so nice, got it??!! 👊
Her next job becauce she will fired and owe them the actual cost to replace the stolen property not the little bit she got on eBay.
“Heh, heh… you KNOW not to mess with my money, right? Heh heh heh..”
Don't commit a crime in retaliation for a crime. File a complaint with the Federal Labor Relations Authority (FRLA). They take payroll shenanigans SERIOUSLY. They tend to come in assuming the employee was the damaged party.
I had this happen to me once when I worked at a bank. They shorted me $120. I brought it up with my manager and she said I would get my shortage the next pay period. Oh, so the bank can be late paying me without penalty, but if I'm late on my credit card payment I get charged a late fee and it gets reported to the credit bureaus? Make it make sense!
Although I wish this was a solution, the law doesn’t see it like that. The way they see it is that she should have went to small claims courts and sued them for the money. All Veronica did was her getting arrested. Unfortunately 😒, deep down in my bones I wish we could do this. 😣
The thing is she would have her money in 2 weeks, and it takes longer than that to get a court date. It sucks, but not worth getting fire to get all final pay in 72 hours, plus possible jail time and penalties.
@@selbarton I agree 100% it sux 😣, we’re damned if you do and we’re damned if we don’t. No win 🤦🏽♀️
Stealing is stealing, you can't steal company stuff over a salary dispute. She's gonna get axed for this and no judge will decide differently. That said, the company of course can send/give/wire her the money immediately. It might take a day or two to get processed. Important thing is to make it clear to the employee that they are taken seriously and a mistake is corrected.
Wage theft is stealing. Hence why it's called wage theft.
A long time ago, there was a race who stole a whole country from Native Americans. So......where was the law back then? Lol
So you agree they stole from her?
@@aff77141 A salary dispute is not stealing. They are going to give her the money, just later, which sucks. They should have wired it as soon as the mistake was discovered. Mistakes get made. Stealing is deliberate.
A judge is going to take issue with violation of labor laws as well. Payroll policy is anchored on binding labor contracts - you can’t just choose to pay your employees whenever you want and make no effort to address any unforeseen payroll issues. Taking 200 dollars worth of stuff over “a salary dispute” is a whole subjective perspective and you’re more than entitled to it, but really the biggest legal liability is the labor law violation more so than mitigating item taking. A good lawyer would have a field day with Janet and this entire corporation
You do not get to pick how you are compensated. I would have contacted payroll directly. Usually the managers do not know what options payroll has to correct the problem. $200 is enough money that the payroll department should consider getting the money to you today or tomorrow.
Well they can definitely issue the 200 now as a special circumstance.
Taking 200 dollars worth of stuff would be criminal. It sucks but there are legal remedies
irony this happened to me and my boss did same got on my next pay check. then he gave me money to cover my bills and groceries until that next check came in and pay him back. irony company shorted him as well.
Veronica is a gutsy woman. I would hate to be her husband.
You must be a weak man.
Yeah. I imagine he would have to be paying bail for her.
Love Veronica
This was ridiculous. 🤦🏻♂️
Why do you think that this is ridiculous 🤔⁉️
@edwardaltman5085 If you had to ask then 🤭
Wow. Veronica, stealing would get you fired. Just report your job.
This incident is raising concerns about this company’s competency as a valid and honest employer. I think I will need to start looking for other companies that can handle simple payroll mistakes in a timely manner and also have a discussion with the labor board and my lawyer.
Oooh no 🤣 Veronica just picked up a whole theft charge 🤣
2 wrongs don’t make a right is a real legal precedent… but some hypothetical judge will be the one to let Veronica know that though. 😁✌️
Veronica would need a receipt to prove she only took $200 worth of stuff to protect herself, but idk officer… she didn’t ring out and she may have taken $1000s worth 🤷♂️
This exactly what creators should do with RUclips - some already are. 😎
Stealing out of spite is a malicious act and is prosecutable. Whereas a clerical error is an error and can be argued it wasn't malicious, even if it was. You have to prove it was malicious. Don't steal like Veronica. That was a bad move.
In the UK Veronica would be dismissed, even if employees are owed money they have to wait until the next payroll cycle.
Theft is classed as gross misconduct.
She would be fired in the United States as well. 😂
Bunch of clowns in these comments. Employers dont have to wait on work getting done and we shouldn't have to wait on our pay.
I used to work in payroll and this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Mistakes sometimes happen. No one in payroll is out to steal an employees money. Employees can and do communicate directly with payroll, they don't need a manager to do it for them. I've always apologized to the employee and done a correction as soon as possible. Which was usually by the end of the workday, unless there was a system error I couldn't get fixed immediately. Approaching the issue calmly and without hostility goes a long way in getting things fixed quickly. Taking company property is never the solution and could in fact get you arrested.
I don't get from this dialog that it is a manager but rather an overseer of "payroll department" (don't know how you call it).
Of course mistakes happen but they are better accepted when responsability is taken, not hidden and communication is open, not fake. This has just happen for the 2nd time for me. Multiple employees are affected but not with the same amount. They say nothing after being made aware. They count on people not noticing! Plus, an employee is overdrown. She has no proposition for help/support, no empathy shown, not even an answer!
The company might lose money because of mishaps but the employee might also get electricity cut or her children unable to eat at school. The consequences are way worse and immediate for the employee. She at least deserves consideration and appropriate excuses.
Clearly that's not the intent.
They were quicker to reach out daily when it was time to sell the unused company car.
Possibly?! You were going to “possibly” email me….
I know this is a skit but that company will have you prosecuted and depending on the type of job, you wouldnt be able to get another job in the same field. Alot of jobs run background checks and as soon as they see theft conviction. Nope...
I don't know why I was expecting this to turn out as a Family Guy parody of the episode in which Brian owing Stewie money and Stewie beats the crap out of him twice. "Where's my money?! I want my money man. I'm tired of you ducking me man. You got money for Starbucks. Where's my money?!"
I loved that episode 🤣🤣🤣🤣❗
They with held it so they can collect interest off of it!
Okay, I'll bite. Do the calculations: assuming a 4.5% APR on $200 in the bank for 2 weeks, how much interest is that? 75 cents? LMFAO 😅😂
@@scottgursteinYes but imagine this is a national company with 100,000 employees and doing it to every 4th employee on a 4 paycheque rotation
@@zbigniewczaykowski514 how very conspiratorial of you! LOL 😅
Why attribute to malice what can be easily explained by ineptitude? The most likely scenario is that they are incompetent and didn’t file the paperwork for the extra $200 she earned in time.
What she did was wrong. She should have gone the legal route and called the labor board. This is one where I think she should be fired and arrested for theft.
A Poster said something like,"I don't know what happened to these Veronica skits. The Veronica skits USED to be good, talking about Employee rights and a standiing up for yourself with work related problems and are now are advocating THEFT from workplaces because of a paycheck shortage that would lead to termination and jail time in real life! ☢️
Veronika is hell…lol.
Cue Stewey “where’s my money?”
Acting like Veronica is going to get a lot of people fired…..
Veronika is the mob😂
This happens to us sometimes and we offer to correct next check. But also can write a petty cash check rhythm day if the employee needs it.
As shite as it is, failing to add certain hours to paycheque is not a criminal offence, but stealing is. Deal with it like a mature adult, or risk going to jail for petty revenge. Report them, make it go viral on social media, whatever. But don’t commit an offence for the sake of 200
It's a cartoon, you nerd.
Please don’t do this. It’s very bad advice. If they call the cops you will be charged.
Me and a buddy worked in the kitchen of a fancy resort when we were just out of school. One Friday night both our paychecks bounced at the local bank along with about half the employees. My buddy and I went back to the resort office and grabbed two selectric typewriters and put them in our car. The manager came chasing after us and I told her they would cover our paychecks at a pawnshop. She gave us cash up front and we told her she better weld them IBM's down to the table if she planned on any more of our checks bouncing.
Veronika would relocate her boss's office to the dirty, dusty, dank warehouse and move into her boss's office.
Veronika would also bill the company for moving expenses and labor in addition to the $200.
Veronika would be staying in that office until the boss coughed up the $200 or until payroll cuts that check.
Two weeks in a cushy corner office for the inconvenience? Oh, yeah - that's Veronika's style!
EPIC VERONICA
They did that to me a couple times at work and I had to wait two weeks. There was no arguing with them.
The labor board is very good at making corporations pay fast. They also fine the company for each time they find out about.
Im a bookkeeper and there is no reason anyone should have to wait for the next paycheck unless they just dont care. You advance the employee the amount, minus taxes, then add the missing hours to the next paycheck, then subtract the reimbursement. Simple. All comes out in the wash, and everyone has what theyre owed timely.
…V is my HERO!
There are ways to validate time worked. Screwed up time clock is on the business trying to squeeze every minute.
Damn right.
I’m all about Veronica, but uhhh, homegirl about to get fired.
Sorry to say this, but if your household budget is configured in a way that you are living paycheck to paycheck to the extent that you literally can't do without $200 for 2 more weeks until your next paycheck, you need to examine your finances. Not saying I'd be happy about a payroll mistake, but mistakes happen. She's going to get her money on the next paycheck, it's not the end of the world. Maybe Veronica can look at cutbacks with some of her discretionary spending, or maybe do some Uber and Lyft driving for a few extra bucks in cash until she saves up a bit of a reserve. I know it's tough in this economy, but it's worth giving that a try. Everyone should have several months worth of expenses saved up in a bank account just in case.
Get BENT.
Bruh. How much someone has in their account is a moot point. When you earn the money, it is not unreasonable to expect to be paid. It's only $200, right? Why not just write out a check from discretionary funds and pay the employee? Surely they have enough in their emergency account to cover it!
@@ladywytch129 It depends on the company, their cash flow systems and payroll procedures. Some small mom 'n pop companies can probably just say, "oops, didn't mean to shortchange you there, bucky! Let me send a quick DM to our in-house payroll processor and have her print a new check for you to pick up this afternoon." Other companies might use payroll firms like ADP which have procedural or contractual limits in their agreements with employers which won't allow them to do special check runs. Each situation may be unique. Either way, yes...the employer's payroll department screwed up, but also you're living too close to the edge if you can't live without $200 for 14 days.
"Everyone should have several months worth of expenses saved up in a bank account just in case"
Yeah, you clearly have no idea what it's like working in the real world and probably haven't for many, many decades if you ever did.
No need to apologize. You got 2 broke folks Shemotional.😂
This happened to most of our shop, they went on the PA and announced it. Told us to fill out a sheet and it will be fixed by next check. We went on 4th of July break and when we came back the plant had been auctioned. We also lost our upcoming paycheck in addition to our earlier shortage. The IRS wouldn't even let me claim it as a loss as it wasn't enough. It was a months paychecks.
This is the only animation channel endorsed by the real veronika. You can report and click "not recommend" on all the others. Just wanted to send this here and boost engagement since only they had the courtesy to contact the person behind thexoriginal content and cut a deal with her. Cheers everyone.
I had this happen. The funny thing is that the system the company used...hit EVERYONE and docked a full days pay because the timecard system didnt register anyone.
The head office had to cut an emergency check for everyone at our office within 12 hours. Then it happen again, but hit 4 other stores. At that point the office has us use old time cards as a secondary once the first time happens, just to have a physical paper trail.
All roads lead to the software payroll was using and had a subscription license.
Lets just say the company had to settle our of court( our company sued the payroll company for issues around the system), we got a new payroll system. However the company also instituted monthly audits using both digital and physical time cards.
Dollar stores try the crap at times. I learned that threatening legal action straightens their loser asses up. You pay what you owe your workers or it WILL cost you a bunch more than that.
Yep that's my company.
Please don’t watch these right before you leave for work. Heh