For ANY SELF-RESPECTING athlete, a gold medal has no value when he (she) knows that a worthy opponent was slandered and not allowed to compete. The thought that you did not defeat your equal will not allow you to live in peace later looking at this medal.
I agree with the age limit change but this moralization about the doping in this case is just so cringe. Nearly every country has doping history and USA is pretty high on that list. Where were these kind of interviews when some high level USA athletes ruined someones change to have a podium moment? I bet 90% of athletes use some kind of substances to gain advantage or is something like astma unusually common with top tier athletes. What comes to Kamila Valieva i don't think she had any say what happened. She should not be the one punished. What has already happened is the warning enough for her for the future. This case was made political from the start by USA "news".
С Валиевой или без , чемпионкой стала бы Щербакова, Трусова , Туктамышева , но по любому русская , я не американка, поэтому у Америки и горит жопа !!!! Америка всегда думает только о своей жопе. Единственное , за что они могут хвататься -командное засветившееся золото , вот почему весь этот скандал. Они сделали все настолько хитро и умно , придумали допинг после начала олимпиады , потому что если бы нашли допинг до олимпиады , то Камилу заменили бы и все равно Россия взяла бы золото не важно кто будет вместо нее, намного хитрее было найти допинг после начала олимпиады и просто лишить команду Росии всего
I've been seeing so many things about how Kamila did something really bad and doping is doping but I feel like we should take a minute to think about Kamila. She 15 and shes been under so much presure and I would be so depressed and stressed, I dont even know if would have the will to live anymore. I honestly feel really bad for her. Obviosly it affected the other atheletes moments but I feel the world has put so much pressure on her.
Did russia put pressure on her? Sure. Did they also drug her? Right. Is she currently banking on all of it fully happy while being a fangirl to Putin? Indeed.
But to Russia's credit they never let her down. She seems to be riding high with a very elaborate ice show and the Wednesday skate endeared her to the world. The West is using Kamila as a proxy against Russia. OK, but the sports organizations should never combine politics with sports.The transgressions of the US over the past 30 would be grounds to ban the US from competition but as everyone knows, the US$ rules everything.
Ich weiß nicht ob Valieva gedopt hat oder nicht. Ich weiß nur, hätte die Doping Agentur den Test fristgerecht bearbeitet, dann hätte Russland Valieva zu hause gelassen. Und eine andere Läuferin zu Olympia geschickt. Dann hätte die Olympiasiegerin Shcherbakova die Medile geholt. Oder es hätte die russische Rakete Trusova die Medaile geholt.
Kamila is the best skater of the world ! World record holder ! So please stop jealous for her ! Why she's viral? Because she's incredible skater , AND REGARDING OF DOPING? MY ANSWER IS? ITS PROPAGANDA!!
@@ChristineTheHippie because Anna is really Most valuable and talented skater...who must get this award? Maria Bell? she was not that belle...Alica Lue she was not that clue...
no doping. the grandfather story is true. this is all fake paranoia. none of these athletes criticizing kamila have one ounce the talent she has. this is not cycling or weightlifting. it is figure skating and based on beauty and poetry. none of that can be attributed to doping. it is total nonsense, and these morons tortured a young insanely talented fifteen year old over nothing. she tested negative before and after and there was the smallest amount totally consistent with sharing a glass with her grandfather. no one would give a fifteen year old figure skater a dangerous heart medicine which can cause lack of coordination. she does not need drugs. she is way better than all of you cry baby athletes and pious media.
What my thought was when I saw the video? My opinion was that Kamila did a great job with the performance and the timing they decided her to perform it was clever. This is why it went viral. In fact nothing really went viral recently so it means Tutberidze and co. are doing something great. And I am not even a fan of that group.
You mean the abusive coach that dopes her athletes, discard them once they are injured, and gaslight the media saying that their failure is because they don't want to train anymore? Oh please! They copied the dance step by step and dressed her exactly in the costume. It went viral because everything "Wednesday" becomes viral. Meanwhile, clean athletes from USA, Japan (and probably Canada) are waiting for their medals
@@TheFlowMind this. It is also blatant how much hypocritical they are bc they blame everything on the evil west but use western products when they see fit to their purposes
@@icesakuragenesis5639 so you can just plan for something to go viral and sure enough it automatically will, I guess Kamila's fans are right then, she is indeed magical lmao the haters logic xD
@@justappearances c´mon. everything with that dance made numbers and tutberidze is a pro at cheating and sneaking results in time just as much as her drug calendar. it wasn't science it will stick especially if idiot ignorant american press just saw the surface.
I remember Yuna Kim, who herself was robbed off a gold medal years prior posted about the doping violation and how the clean athletes should be respected. Wakaba Higuchi, one of the Japanese figure skaters competing at Beijing liked her post, a day after she was put behind a russian girl who made a major mistake in her program and the russian girl who got caught doping. It boggles my mind how fans are cuddling these cheaters but are this unsympathetic towards the real victims in this situation.
The fact that Queen Yuna spoke out about it says it all. She never really commented about the Sochi Robbery, but she took a stand here. I think she was upset because the ruling hurt the Korean women who were competing. She has always to take her role as a leader and role model very seriously. PS: Wakaba was ridiculous like undermarked!
Finally someone puts that blatant attempt at pr Tutberidze did which Kamila confirmed and American media fell for as idiots in context. But hey, it’s clear they’ll resort to anything and nothing honorable should be expected from Russian figure skating and of course not taking anything rusada says as truth. The huge joke they are.
@@icesakuragenesis5639 filled by chemicals? Lmao yeah right, the US and Canada prescribe ADHD meds (amphetamine) to 5 yo kids, you silly, these drugs are banned in Russia, Japan and most of Asia and even most of Europe for EVERYONE just like heroin, in fact, they are even banned for personal use if you want to bring them in one of these countries, they are not allowed period. You obviously havent been to Russia, the girls there are so natural and feminine, the streets are clean, the sidewalks are not filled with tents, it's pleasant and safe to just walk around Moscow even at night time, you're not gonna get mugged, no shots are being fired in any neighborhood in the city. But keep believing your liberal woke propaganda like NY times about Russia, it only produces the opposite effect in the long run
Para las otras chicas rusas igualmente una decepción, Tuberitze quería su tercera niña dorada de 15 años sin importar el costo, sacrificó a Liza , a Alexandra y Anna que pudieron remoplazarla, pero esa señora es horrible y nadie la para , Alexandra se fue de su lado y hasta los medios la han condenado, ojalá se haga justicia , lastimosamente para Kamila pero las reglas son las reglas
Kirsten and Dylan explained the impact on the other athletes so well. I haven't watched the video as I'm not interested in anything Russian skaters are doing. They are irrelevant due to the sports sanctions over the invasion of Ukraine, which has destroyed sport and cultural infrastructure and seen athletes killed in action as they have had to defend their home. The way this has spread through the media is absolutely atrocious.
no doping. the grandfather story is true. this is all fake paranoia. none of these athletes criticizing kamila have one ounce the talent she has. this is not cycling or weightlifting. it is figure skating and based on beauty and poetry. none of that can be attributed to doping. it is total nonsense, and these morons tortured a young insanely talented fifteen year old over nothing. she tested negative before and after and there was the smallest amount totally consistent with sharing a glass with her grandfather. no one would give a fifteen year old figure skater a dangerous heart medicine which can cause lack of coordination. she does not need drugs. she is way better than all of you cry baby athletes and pious media.
Doping is wrong but really like this lady.Kamila one of the best and would like to see her return to international tournament one day before she retires
@@icesakuragenesis5639 You people are the abusers not Kamila or her skating coaches. She had a NEGATIVE test before and after that "doping" test that was held by the lab for over 40 days and the amount found was so small that it is a good indication of contamination. Here is the CAS decision for letting her skate in the singles competition: Excerpt from the court’s decision at the Olympics: "From the history of doping tests of the athlete, prepared by her representatives, it is evident that the athlete repeatedly took doping control from 24 August 2019 to 7 February 2022, including the taking of samples on 30 October 2021 (until positive doping), On 13 January 2021 and 7 February 2022 (after a positive doping test). All samples of the athlete were negative As a result, the referees concluded that «low substance concentration and negative doping samples taken before and after the positive test indicate that the athlete did not take trimetazidine course to achieve therapeutic effect and improve sports results» and that «entry of a prohibited substance into the body of an athlete with a high probability is due to contamination»" Stop this witch hunt to destroy a very talented athlete, check out who benefits from this whole fiasco.
@@icesakuragenesis5639 don't worry about them, I just troll these clowns, they are a minority, literally a drop in the ocean, there are less than 1k active people on reddit and Twitter they are noisy af though and they want to be heard, but no one listens the harder they try the less people care. hey icesakura why don't you try harder and scream louder haha you're not doing enough lmao
@@mariaritapieraccini3501 as said before, anything russian and rusada is as good as toilet paper.tutberidze is on russian press saying how she chases new drugs every time one is banned and there are year old documentaries on state sponsored doping based on avoiding dates and perfecting calendars. Eat that trash yourselves.
Russia was world team champion Proven far superior than others With or without Kamila Russia still easily can grab olympic gold Others should feel shame if they think gold belong to them I wonder why that 2 month sample test result only came out a day after Russia won gold Not a week, a day before team event or before free skate Or why test result not come out a week, a month or a year after Olympic Actually WADA weakness jeopardize Russia gold medal
no doping. the grandfather story is true. this is all fake paranoia. none of these athletes criticizing kamila have one ounce the talent she has. this is not cycling or weightlifting. it is figure skating and based on beauty and poetry. none of that can be attributed to doping. it is total nonsense, and these morons tortured a young insanely talented fifteen year old over nothing. she tested negative before and after and there was the smallest amount totally consistent with sharing a glass with her grandfather. no one would give a fifteen year old figure skater a dangerous heart medicine which can cause lack of coordination. she does not need drugs. she is way better than all of you cry baby athletes and pious media.
How is calmly explaining how the doping scandal affected other athletes hate speech? No one was insulted. They're explaining the facts of the situation.
Когда святоши лицемерно пропагандируют за честность, как правило, они защищают только свои интересы. Ежу понятно, что современный уровень профессионального спорта без фарм препаратов не обходится. Все упирается в способность врачей рассчитать дозу и период выведения ее из организма. Мало того, уже существуют препараты, маскирующие запрещенные. Любой провал с тестами - это всегда косяк врача сборной. И тем более мерзко, что сердечными средствами пичкаются несовершеннолетние дети, которым эти лекарства могут конкретно навредить. Интересно, как такие клинические идиоты вообще умудряются стать врачами?
WADA should have done and report it before Olympic game. Test sample had been sent in December.
yeah it's not a coincidence that the results of her test came in right on time for her to still compete
And in Olimpics i think kamila had no problems with doping, as they know
For ANY SELF-RESPECTING athlete, a gold medal has no value when he (she) knows that a worthy opponent was slandered and not allowed to compete. The thought that you did not defeat your equal will not allow you to live in peace later looking at this medal.
I agree with the age limit change but this moralization about the doping in this case is just so cringe. Nearly every country has doping history and USA is pretty high on that list. Where were these kind of interviews when some high level USA athletes ruined someones change to have a podium moment? I bet 90% of athletes use some kind of substances to gain advantage or is something like astma unusually common with top tier athletes. What comes to Kamila Valieva i don't think she had any say what happened. She should not be the one punished. What has already happened is the warning enough for her for the future. This case was made political from the start by USA "news".
It really is!
С Валиевой или без , чемпионкой стала бы Щербакова, Трусова , Туктамышева , но по любому русская , я не американка, поэтому у Америки и горит жопа !!!! Америка всегда думает только о своей жопе. Единственное , за что они могут хвататься -командное засветившееся золото , вот почему весь этот скандал. Они сделали все настолько хитро и умно , придумали допинг после начала олимпиады , потому что если бы нашли допинг до олимпиады , то Камилу заменили бы и все равно Россия взяла бы золото не важно кто будет вместо нее, намного хитрее было найти допинг после начала олимпиады и просто лишить команду Росии всего
I've been seeing so many things about how Kamila did something really bad and doping is doping but I feel like we should take a minute to think about Kamila. She 15 and shes been under so much presure and I would be so depressed and stressed, I dont even know if would have the will to live anymore. I honestly feel really bad for her. Obviosly it affected the other atheletes moments but I feel the world has put so much pressure on her.
Did russia put pressure on her? Sure. Did they also drug her? Right. Is she currently banking on all of it fully happy while being a fangirl to Putin? Indeed.
But to Russia's credit they never let her down. She seems to be riding high with a very elaborate ice show and the Wednesday skate endeared her to the world. The West is using Kamila as a proxy against Russia. OK, but the sports organizations should never combine politics with sports.The transgressions of the US over the past 30 would be grounds to ban the US from competition but as everyone knows, the US$ rules everything.
Ich weiß nicht ob Valieva gedopt hat oder nicht. Ich weiß nur, hätte die Doping Agentur den Test fristgerecht bearbeitet, dann hätte Russland Valieva zu hause gelassen. Und eine andere Läuferin zu Olympia geschickt. Dann hätte die Olympiasiegerin Shcherbakova die Medile geholt. Oder es hätte die russische Rakete Trusova die Medaile geholt.
👍👍👍👍100000%
At the Olympics, Valieva's doping test was normal. But for some reason they remembered the old test. 100% procurement of politicians))
They can work hard, but never could reach kamila's level. and they know
0:25 dance ends and talk starts.
I wish I'd known that; I just wanted to see her dance, ffs
Kamila is the best skater of the world ! World record holder ! So please stop jealous for her ! Why she's viral? Because she's incredible skater , AND REGARDING OF DOPING? MY ANSWER IS? ITS PROPAGANDA!!
It wasn't her fault. Leave her alone, she was 15. None of this has been fsir for her.
Say it...say it loud....doping is doping...and ISU still nominates couches from that skating school
Anna Shcherbakova is on the ISU Award List for Most Valuable Skater. Just a big nope
She is Olympic and World Champion... She is one of the best a elite skater...
@@ChristineTheHippie because Anna is really Most valuable and talented skater...who must get this award? Maria Bell? she was not that belle...Alica Lue she was not that clue...
no doping. the grandfather story is true. this is all fake paranoia. none of these athletes criticizing kamila have one ounce the talent she has. this is not cycling or weightlifting. it is figure skating and based on beauty and poetry. none of that can be attributed to doping. it is total nonsense, and these morons tortured a young insanely talented fifteen year old over nothing. she tested negative before and after and there was the smallest amount totally consistent with sharing a glass with her grandfather. no one would give a fifteen year old figure skater a dangerous heart medicine which can cause lack of coordination. she does not need drugs. she is way better than all of you cry baby athletes and pious media.
@@inacessiblecardinal totally agree!🤗
What my thought was when I saw the video? My opinion was that Kamila did a great job with the performance and the timing they decided her to perform it was clever. This is why it went viral. In fact nothing really went viral recently so it means Tutberidze and co. are doing something great. And I am not even a fan of that group.
You mean the abusive coach that dopes her athletes, discard them once they are injured, and gaslight the media saying that their failure is because they don't want to train anymore? Oh please! They copied the dance step by step and dressed her exactly in the costume. It went viral because everything "Wednesday" becomes viral. Meanwhile, clean athletes from USA, Japan (and probably Canada) are waiting for their medals
Kamila confirmed it was planned but ok.
@@TheFlowMind this. It is also blatant how much hypocritical they are bc they blame everything on the evil west but use western products when they see fit to their purposes
@@icesakuragenesis5639 so you can just plan for something to go viral and sure enough it automatically will, I guess Kamila's fans are right then, she is indeed magical
lmao the haters logic xD
@@justappearances c´mon. everything with that dance made numbers and tutberidze is a pro at cheating and sneaking results in time just as much as her drug calendar. it wasn't science it will stick especially if idiot ignorant american press just saw the surface.
Propaganda is so bad, bahahahha....
I remember Yuna Kim, who herself was robbed off a gold medal years prior posted about the doping violation and how the clean athletes should be respected. Wakaba Higuchi, one of the Japanese figure skaters competing at Beijing liked her post, a day after she was put behind a russian girl who made a major mistake in her program and the russian girl who got caught doping.
It boggles my mind how fans are cuddling these cheaters but are this unsympathetic towards the real victims in this situation.
The fact that Queen Yuna spoke out about it says it all. She never really commented about the Sochi Robbery, but she took a stand here. I think she was upset because the ruling hurt the Korean women who were competing. She has always to take her role as a leader and role model very seriously.
PS: Wakaba was ridiculous like undermarked!
She worked, she sacrificed too. Stop being jealous and petty.
If this video is announced with the rel aim, i think noone wants to watch it. Even to show his bad feelings they have to show Kamila's skills
Absolutely perfect. A lot of love from France 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Omg.. this is so bad for this channel
Finally someone puts that blatant attempt at pr Tutberidze did which Kamila confirmed and American media fell for as idiots in context. But hey, it’s clear they’ll resort to anything and nothing honorable should be expected from Russian figure skating and of course not taking anything rusada says as truth. The huge joke they are.
So you don't believe in CAS that allowed her to the Olympics and will not reckon with the decision of CAS if they do not accept the appeal from WADA?
@@ЭйсФоэр oh, I believe what trash fs russian people have openly said: rusfed pressured everyone to allow her in
@@icesakuragenesis5639 Rusfed even put pressure on the American judge? You have a very high opinion of Russian netizens)
@@ЭйсФоэр as in SUPERcorrupt? Absolutely
@@icesakuragenesis5639 Russia can choose American presidents according to American media. The level of schizophrenia in the West is really high))
♥️♥️♥️ Talent from God! Nothing to add ! Such a unique figure! leggy beauty ♥️♥️♥️
You mean the chemistry fabricated one, I see.
@@icesakuragenesis5639 you cannot achieve talent from God with the help of chemistry
@@AboutFS thanks. Now I know what idiotic reasoning Russians use to justify being filled by chemicals ❤
@@icesakuragenesis5639 filled by chemicals? Lmao yeah right, the US and Canada prescribe ADHD meds (amphetamine) to 5 yo kids, you silly, these drugs are banned in Russia, Japan and most of Asia and even most of Europe for EVERYONE just like heroin, in fact, they are even banned for personal use if you want to bring them in one of these countries, they are not allowed period. You obviously havent been to Russia, the girls there are so natural and feminine, the streets are clean, the sidewalks are not filled with tents, it's pleasant and safe to just walk around Moscow even at night time, you're not gonna get mugged, no shots are being fired in any neighborhood in the city. But keep believing your liberal woke propaganda like NY times about Russia, it only produces the opposite effect in the long run
@@icesakuragenesis5639 Cardiac medicine taken even before the Olympics is now called chemical pumping.) Some netizens are really toxic.
she did such a brilliant job 🤩 Art
You don't know what you're talking about. Do your homework.
This time, is she clear or she still using illegal substances?
Thank your for addressing the elephant in the room.
What B.S. The MSM will do anything to discredit this child.
Отлично, Валиева как раз на следующие игры и поедет!😂 Попробуйте победить😂
Sooner or later, Americans will pay for her tears.
Para las otras chicas rusas igualmente una decepción, Tuberitze quería su tercera niña dorada de 15 años sin importar el costo, sacrificó a Liza , a Alexandra y Anna que pudieron remoplazarla, pero esa señora es horrible y nadie la para , Alexandra se fue de su lado y hasta los medios la han condenado, ojalá se haga justicia , lastimosamente para Kamila pero las reglas son las reglas
Well said
Kirsten and Dylan explained the impact on the other athletes so well. I haven't watched the video as I'm not interested in anything Russian skaters are doing. They are irrelevant due to the sports sanctions over the invasion of Ukraine, which has destroyed sport and cultural infrastructure and seen athletes killed in action as they have had to defend their home. The way this has spread through the media is absolutely atrocious.
no doping. the grandfather story is true. this is all fake paranoia. none of these athletes criticizing kamila have one ounce the talent she has. this is not cycling or weightlifting. it is figure skating and based on beauty and poetry. none of that can be attributed to doping. it is total nonsense, and these morons tortured a young insanely talented fifteen year old over nothing. she tested negative before and after and there was the smallest amount totally consistent with sharing a glass with her grandfather. no one would give a fifteen year old figure skater a dangerous heart medicine which can cause lack of coordination. she does not need drugs. she is way better than all of you cry baby athletes and pious media.
devi_, if a person is an idiot, then it's for a long time. In your case, I'm afraid it's forever
I don't remember any complaints about Tara Lipinski age after she won gold at the Olympics
She wasn’t found to have a positive doping test
Her doping receipts? Rusada fabricated ones are closer to toilet paper btw
@@burythecastle97 your reading & comprehensive skills are really bad. Go back to school.
TY , Asher, Kirsten and Dylan! Your words were on the mark!
Please let me go on watching this masterpiece, she's Otherworldly!
Doping is wrong but really like this lady.Kamila one of the best and would like to see her return to international tournament one day before she retires
You clearly don’t follow figure skating and specially abuser team Tutberidze I see 😏
@@icesakuragenesis5639 You people are the abusers not Kamila or her skating coaches. She had a NEGATIVE test before and after that "doping" test that was held by the lab for over 40 days and the amount found was so small that it is a good indication of contamination. Here is the CAS decision for letting her skate in the singles competition:
Excerpt from the court’s decision at the Olympics:
"From the history of doping tests of the athlete, prepared by her representatives, it is evident that the athlete repeatedly took doping control from 24 August 2019 to 7 February 2022, including the taking of samples on 30 October 2021 (until positive doping), On 13 January 2021 and 7 February 2022 (after a positive doping test). All samples of the athlete were negative As a result, the referees concluded that «low substance concentration and negative doping samples taken before and after the positive test indicate that the athlete did not take trimetazidine course to achieve therapeutic effect and improve sports results» and that «entry of a prohibited substance into the body of an athlete with a high probability is due to contamination»"
Stop this witch hunt to destroy a very talented athlete, check out who benefits from this whole fiasco.
@@icesakuragenesis5639 don't worry about them, I just troll these clowns, they are a minority, literally a drop in the ocean, there are less than 1k active people on reddit and Twitter they are noisy af though and they want to be heard, but no one listens the harder they try the less people care.
hey icesakura why don't you try harder and scream louder haha you're not doing enough lmao
@@mariaritapieraccini3501 as said before, anything russian and rusada is as good as toilet paper.tutberidze is on russian press saying how she chases new drugs every time one is banned and there are year old documentaries on state sponsored doping based on avoiding dates and perfecting calendars. Eat that trash yourselves.
@@justappearances you don't have to ask. ruzz make the job easy
Russia was world team champion
Proven far superior than others
With or without Kamila Russia still easily can grab olympic gold
Others should feel shame if they think gold belong to them
I wonder why that 2 month sample test result only came out a day after Russia won gold
Not a week, a day before team event or before free skate
Or why test result not come out a week, a month or a year after Olympic
Actually WADA weakness jeopardize Russia gold medal
If you have to cheat you aren't the best.
😂😂😂😂 💉💉💉💊💊💊
@@DeathSpiral777 That's right, and the ones who want to steal the team gold medal are not the best.
These old ahh adults trying to bring kamila down when they should be holding her coaches responsible . bffr
Kamila is dislikable enough herself
Such a hate speech from this channel!
It's a Canadian propaganda channel what do you expect?
no doping. the grandfather story is true. this is all fake paranoia. none of these athletes criticizing kamila have one ounce the talent she has. this is not cycling or weightlifting. it is figure skating and based on beauty and poetry. none of that can be attributed to doping. it is total nonsense, and these morons tortured a young insanely talented fifteen year old over nothing. she tested negative before and after and there was the smallest amount totally consistent with sharing a glass with her grandfather. no one would give a fifteen year old figure skater a dangerous heart medicine which can cause lack of coordination. she does not need drugs. she is way better than all of you cry baby athletes and pious media.
How is calmly explaining how the doping scandal affected other athletes hate speech?
No one was insulted. They're explaining the facts of the situation.
@@justappearances pRopAgaNda yea sure buddy whatever you want to tell yourself
they were so respectful, how is this hate speech. more like facts
Когда святоши лицемерно пропагандируют за честность, как правило, они защищают только свои интересы.
Ежу понятно, что современный уровень профессионального спорта без фарм препаратов не обходится.
Все упирается в способность врачей рассчитать дозу и период выведения ее из организма.
Мало того, уже существуют препараты, маскирующие запрещенные.
Любой провал с тестами - это всегда косяк врача сборной.
И тем более мерзко, что сердечными средствами пичкаются несовершеннолетние дети, которым эти лекарства могут конкретно навредить.
Интересно, как такие клинические идиоты вообще умудряются стать врачами?