The Corporate State: The History Of Corporatism (Part 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
  • Many people are unaware of the History of Corporatism, and quite many believe unfortunately that it is an Ideology that suddenly came into existence due to the Interwar period. in the second part of the Corporate State, I outline exactly the History of Corporatism, and trace it back to the founding pillars of Western Civilization.
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    0:00 - Introduction
    2:15 - The Pillars of Civilization
    8:36 - Corporatism In The Middle Ages
    12:29 - From Reactionary To Progressive
    16:57 - The Corporatist Schism
    20:17 - Corporatism In The Modern Age
    23:06 - Conclusion
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    Sources Used:
    "Corporatism and Comparative Politics" by Howard J. Wiarda
    "Corporatism and Political Theory" by Alan Cawson
    The Bible
    "The Politics" by Aristotle
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    Music used:
    Ergo Phizmiz - Open Your Head
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    Tags:
    Corporatism, Corporatist, Fascism, Third Position, Liberalism, Marxism, Communism, Capitalism, Free Market, Nordic Model, Scandinavia, Francisco Franco, Salazar, Portugal, Spain, Lavader, Neo-Corporatism.

Комментарии • 88

  • @plolsteg7705
    @plolsteg7705 11 месяцев назад +18

    In the netherlands, the “polder model” is basically a form of natural corporatism. The fact that the country is under constant threat of sinking makes it necessary for all social and economic classes to work together. As a result, Dutch corporatism is much more of a philosopy than an economic model.

  • @DjDeadpig
    @DjDeadpig Год назад +92

    My home country of England 100% needs corporatism right now.

    • @williamjohansson8105
      @williamjohansson8105 Год назад

      Nordic corporatism is to capitalist. When the power of the capitalists is opposed even the slightest they bribe politicians, initiate mass privetization etc. State syndicalism or a form of socialism based on the organic state is the only way forward if the european race and working class is to even survive the century

    • @ascalonian
      @ascalonian Год назад +4

      Hello? The corporation of the city of London?

    • @Jesserocks1975
      @Jesserocks1975 Год назад +23

      Well, you would have had it had you elected Sir Oswald Mosley.

    • @DjDeadpig
      @DjDeadpig Год назад

      @@Jesserocks1975 Mosley would’ve ruined us and become a bitch for the axis. The same way I wouldn’t vote a commie in, I wouldn’t vote a simp in.

    • @Heinrich-k1u
      @Heinrich-k1u Год назад +23

      @@Jesserocks1975with Mosley we might have had racial discrimination, so nooo… I want a patriotic corporatism, but that doesn’t yapp about „blood and honor“ and shit like that

  • @Coolbeansoooo83799
    @Coolbeansoooo83799 Год назад +33

    Based. We will restore Corporatism as the global economy of the world, we will be righteous and prosperous!!!

  • @DarthDread-oh2ne
    @DarthDread-oh2ne Год назад +40

    Hello, Lavader. I just got done watching A two-hour long video on Wilhelm II of Germany.

    • @majidaljaburi7870
      @majidaljaburi7870 Год назад +4

      What are your thoughts on Wilhelm ii now after watching the video?

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne Год назад +4

      @@majidaljaburi7870 My thoughts haven't changed A bit. I think the former Kaiser was dealt.

    • @Falkenlp3
      @Falkenlp3 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@DarthDread-oh2nedealt?

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 5 месяцев назад +1

    These two videos are so underrated! Thank you for making them!

  • @avo.avocado
    @avo.avocado Год назад +10

    Glad you’re making videos on corporatism that are easy to understand. I haven’t decided to be a corporatist but im researching it. Also love the b roll footage of Atlanta in the intro, so many beautiful sky scrapers, Love and respect from Georgia ❤

  • @martysmaps7411
    @martysmaps7411 2 месяца назад +3

    Honestly I think corporatism could use a different name just on account of it makes people think of uber-capitalism. Corporation might be a word which adequately described corporatism 80-140 years ago, but now people just have a different connotation for the word corporate. The first word that comes to my mind that has a modern definition better than corporate would be synergy. So I think corporatism could attract more people if it was called synergism. What do other people think would be a good replacement word if one is needed?

    • @hofnarrtheclown
      @hofnarrtheclown Месяц назад +2

      If the Inherent Meaning of Corporatism's grasply Understood, any Change isn't Needed in the Long-Term.

    • @martysmaps7411
      @martysmaps7411 Месяц назад +1

      @hofnarrtheclown corporatism can't even be concerned about the long-term until it can at least off the ground again, and it would benefit in the short term with a name change to fit modern culture without hurting the long term

    • @MahmudHasan-me
      @MahmudHasan-me Месяц назад

      ​​@@martysmaps7411I think co-operatism could be a good name. But how do we saction it by use?

    • @hofnarrtheclown
      @hofnarrtheclown Месяц назад +1

      ​@@martysmaps7411We can't just Change a Millennium Organicism just for Wider Recognition.

  • @AmericanImperium1776
    @AmericanImperium1776 Год назад +39

    Long live Catholic Corporatism! Great video. Peace ✌🏻
    After the series, can you do a video on Tsar Nicholas II?
    P.S. I thought National Syndicalism was very similar/the same as Corporatism.

  • @yaujj65
    @yaujj65 Год назад +11

    Like music, corporatism is everywhere.

  • @alessandroboccalatte8120
    @alessandroboccalatte8120 Год назад +7

    You forgot the first comparison in history of politics to the human body, Agrippa Menenius Lanatus in the early republic, he went to the plebeians who were refusing to fight for the state. He compared the state to the body, and so convinced them to fight

  • @Ditmike2235
    @Ditmike2235 Год назад +4

    Thankful for this video

  • @trinity03p
    @trinity03p Месяц назад

    Rerum Norvam mainly paved the path for Distributism, which it was (Correct me if wrong) supplemented by thinkers like Chesterton and others, The Outline of Sanity is an example.

  • @grecko8762
    @grecko8762 4 месяца назад +3

    JD Vance may be somewhat Corportist when judging his past interviews etc

  • @sibberianno6333
    @sibberianno6333 Год назад +3

    Great video. I think it'd be interesting if you made a part of the series discussing the difference between corporatism and Keynesian capitalism. Many people (myself included before I started watching the series) think corporatism is just capitalism with a strong state, i.e., Keynesianism; and I think making a video about their difference would help clear a lot of doubts and attract further interest in corporatism as a truly distinct alternative to capitalism.

  • @ezrafaulk3076
    @ezrafaulk3076 5 месяцев назад +2

    Now that I've watched your introductory video on it *&* both parts of your miniseries on it, I'm dead convinced America *desperately* needs corporatism; systemic employee abuse & mass layoffs by CEOs against employees (who're being laid off because of the *CEOs'* stupid decision they're thrusting the consequences of onto *them* instead of accepting it *themselves* )in American capitalism is leading a lot of people to turn to socialism/communism, seeing it as the *only* alternative even though it's arguably even *worse* ; most Americans have never even *heard* of corporatism (& to my utter shame, I was one of them until I watched your videos on it), & those that have have only heard the *misinformation* surrounding it. But after watching your videos, I understand that corporatism is the *middle* ground system that leaves *everyone* happy (as long as it's not *fascist* corporatism), & as an American who's absolutely sick of all this *needless* polarization & strives to find a rational middle ground, I now firmly believe America absolutely *needs* corporatism.

    • @MahmudHasan-me
      @MahmudHasan-me Месяц назад

      I Don't know what your party affiliation is. But some are saying that JD vance may have corpotist sympathies from his past interviews.

  • @berk3857
    @berk3857 Год назад +4

    You should see Eugene Golob's book -The "ISMS"-. It has the biggest chapter for corporatism and middle-way. Also you should look at Carl Landauer's book.
    Another source for corporate law theory comes from Leon Duguit who claims occupational representational order in terms of constitutional law theory of corporatism.

    • @Coolbeansoooo83799
      @Coolbeansoooo83799 Месяц назад

      Which book specifically are you referring to for Carl and Leon that speak on Corporatism? Thanks!

  • @RighteeTighty
    @RighteeTighty Год назад +8

    To Lavader
    This maybe adding to much to your plate,
    but can you talk about Alexander Hamilton / Henry Clay / Friedrich List / Lincoln / Prez Mckinley,
    the American (National) System & their parallel to Corporatism

  • @ascalonian
    @ascalonian Год назад +10

    The City of London Corporation is a unique local authority that governs the Square Mile, the financial district of London. While it operates within the broader framework of the UK's legal and political system, its structure is distinct. The Corporation has elements of corporatism, with various committees representing different sectors and interests within the business community. However, it also incorporates democratic elements through elected representatives. The Corporation's functions encompass local government responsibilities, maintaining the City's infrastructure, and supporting businesses.

  • @maxzation
    @maxzation 11 месяцев назад +5

    16:00 Isnt Rerum Novarum considered Distributist?

  • @NorwoodingSkullMask
    @NorwoodingSkullMask 3 месяца назад +1

    Bring back the synthesis of the spiritual in every aspect of government and economics!

  • @GluboiBoi
    @GluboiBoi 4 месяца назад +4

    Моя жизнь❌
    Наши патриотические жизни✅

  • @Heinrich-k1u
    @Heinrich-k1u Год назад +8

    When part 3

  • @soymargarit2036
    @soymargarit2036 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ojalá tuviéramos canales cómo el tuyo en hablahispana (solo conozco uno que es mas o menos parecido).

  • @greenmountainbrownie6473
    @greenmountainbrownie6473 Год назад +5

    PLEASE MAKE A COMMUNITY POST ABOUT THE CORPORATISM OF THE IRISH SENATE

  • @KingJonasHD
    @KingJonasHD Год назад +9

    Since Dollfuß was a classical corporatist and thus way more conservative than revolutionary, would you consider him a fascist? His Austria was called austrofascist after all, but I‘m really having my doubts on that. I feel like he’s more of an authoritarian catholic nationalist than a fascist

    • @nolancer5974
      @nolancer5974 Год назад +1

      Dollfuß and the Fatherland Front were not Fascist. You know where the term "Austrofascist" comes from? It was coined AFTER the Second World War by Social Democrats trying to slander Dollfuß and his party. Dollfuß nor the VF EVER described themselves as Fascist.

    • @TuesdaySFD
      @TuesdaySFD Год назад +8

      Fascism is revolutionary

    • @Irbachbassstyle
      @Irbachbassstyle Год назад +5

      He’s not.

    • @daviokamoto2143
      @daviokamoto2143 Год назад +3

      he seems similar to franco... but mussolini was his best buddy so idk.

  • @F.JuanPhan
    @F.JuanPhan Год назад +2

    Giovanni Gentile would love your videos! 😅

  • @jacksonmowell3859
    @jacksonmowell3859 Год назад +3

    Lavader do a video on why the American media panders to women so much.

  • @DistributistHound
    @DistributistHound Год назад +6

    I would integrate some components of corporatism with Distributism with social credit economics as foundation

  • @bobbyokeefe4285
    @bobbyokeefe4285 10 месяцев назад +2

    With Paul,it's actually the end of Corporatism ie-Hierarchy,there's a reason why Spengler was quoted as saying,"Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism",it's the push for egalitarianism,this is even confirmed in the lifestyle of the 1st generation of Christians who lived as celibate groups in communes,sharing everything(that sounds more like Communism to me),a far cry from what the church would later on become as an institution(and this btw would later be one of Luther's main critique of the Church,hence the "Sola Scriptura"advocacy),Paul is speaking from a theological pov not a social one and certainly not from an economic one,remember Christianity is a failed apocalyptic cult,as far as Paul was concerned the world was about to end in the near futur,he's not planning a society for centuries to come(heck,not even years to come)so it's absurd to anachronistically put such concepts in his mouth.

  • @floridaman318
    @floridaman318 4 месяца назад

    Excellent.

  • @vicenteromerovega1480
    @vicenteromerovega1480 Год назад +2

    You are the best ❤️❤️❤️

  • @diegoyanesholtz212
    @diegoyanesholtz212 6 месяцев назад +1

    I do think liberal corporatism is better than the fascist variant. Liberal capitalism is not 100% bad, but if you allow companies to do whatever for profit, you can create social issues.

  • @dannydanny865
    @dannydanny865 Год назад +2

    Interesting history on a niche ideology

  • @diegoyanesholtz212
    @diegoyanesholtz212 6 месяцев назад

    The only place in the 1950s where corporatism was rising was Latin America. They always say that Latin America is anachronic, and is always behind the rest of the world. This is with Peronism in Argentina and Varguism in Brazil.

  • @timmyturner327
    @timmyturner327 Год назад +5

    The UK was pretty corporatist until Thatcher.

  • @yaujj65
    @yaujj65 Год назад +9

    Does the Austrian Hungarian Empire practice corporatism?

    • @horacioelconserjeopina3956
      @horacioelconserjeopina3956 Год назад +3

      Mist XVII-XIX monarchies were already mercantilist

    • @berk3857
      @berk3857 Год назад +2

      NSPAD experience is corporatistic. I think you can look at Gerhard Kessler's work and some of corporatist-reactionary parties in late 19th century Austria. Also there is a book named "Austro-Corporatism: Past, Present, Future", it may answer your questions.

    • @yaujj65
      @yaujj65 Год назад

      @@berk3857 Thanks

  • @malcolmkellogg1710
    @malcolmkellogg1710 9 дней назад

    State directed syndicalism.

  • @ChristianCollins-ux1zr
    @ChristianCollins-ux1zr 7 месяцев назад

    I’m a capitalist supporter and always will be, but I’m willing to admit that corporatism is very appealing and maybe some elements of it can be used to prevent capitalism from growing out of control. However I have to say that corporatism’s association with Hegel is bad since Hegel essentially laid the foundation for the formation of not only Marxism, but also fascism and national socialism, through his pro contradiction anti-logical philosophy.

  • @Kuudere-Kun
    @Kuudere-Kun Год назад

    How can you exclude Engelbert Dollfuss from your definition of Fascism, he self identified as Fascist and was backed by Mussolini?

    • @nolancer5974
      @nolancer5974 Год назад +3

      Where did he say he was Fascist?

    • @AmericanImperium1776
      @AmericanImperium1776 Год назад +5

      Dollfuss called his system was a Catholic System and he even brought Mises into his government, although Mises was kicked out eventually.

  • @eddy-knox
    @eddy-knox 7 месяцев назад

    I support all English speakers changing the way we pronounce 'gentiles'
    It sounds way zestier lavaders way 🌯

  • @Hruljina
    @Hruljina Год назад +1

    Merhaba, kako se muzika koja svira u pozadini zove

  • @Faustobellissimo
    @Faustobellissimo 6 месяцев назад +3

    "Classical corporatism"???
    I understand that you're desparately trying to make a distinction between how corporatism was defined by the Christian social teaching and how it was applied by the Fascists regimes, but you can't make up new terms as you see fit...

  • @thumperhunts6250
    @thumperhunts6250 Год назад +3

    What's the difference with monarchy?

    • @agellidmalik
      @agellidmalik 10 месяцев назад +3

      A monarchy is a political structure, whereas corporatism is an economic structure. This, of course, means that they can be combined.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723

    12:43....ughmmm......not really, correction there buddy,

  • @TheXXDude
    @TheXXDude 10 месяцев назад

    let me tell you about something corporatism isnt the only Alternative to capitalist and socialism cuz if you ever heard of syndicates they literally operate the same way and method and then you have my political theory and practices called unionism where it abolish a 1 man system and builds a system of a round table of economic and government structure of 8 spaces which are sittings of 5 for 1 government and law making 2 military and law enforcement 3 business and economics 4 political figures 5 building civilization 6 land and avoculture 7 building economic and enterprises and government law enforcement or military and trade unions then finally 8 public education with all this a government of hierarchy of wealth and power is simply no more as thier wouldn't be a class of power nor wealth as everyone are expected the same for what thier specialty caters for thier need in the society and system that thierself can provide with whatever thier specialty of work is now how to get voted or the requirements to get elected in whatever sit you are running for you must make a paper documentation of a 5 year plan u are planning to bring to the nation and state and if thier was a case of you lets say not doing what you are promised of doing then you are kicked from the sit of what you been elected for now for the security of the nation we protect any belief in culture rather its sexually or religious or even gender identity as all are people and any form of people within the government is worthy of thier protection in rights now for business side of things fairly priced consumer goods big business and enterprises places to work to earn income and free employment union enterprises that share the wealth and opportunities to the lower income enterprises so they have the same privileges as the big business in opportunities and deals with other companies all this forms a fair place of practice thats strong but not authoritarian and most importantly a system that builds a machine that the masses and candidates of the round table can control through feedback and opinions from the you the individuals and the other thing is it holds wealthy businesses accountable for any wage cuts towards works by making them sit with the employees and make a deal with them to compensate the sudden wage cutting. Also if you wanna make a video covering what i said here you can

  • @Faustobellissimo
    @Faustobellissimo 6 месяцев назад +2

    Corporatism, in the sense of tripartism, has NOTHING to do with Medieval corporations/guilds.

  • @colinmcewen9530
    @colinmcewen9530 8 месяцев назад +1

    its basicaly fuedlism in a mordern setting

  • @TheWayoftheSith
    @TheWayoftheSith 11 месяцев назад +1

    Western civilisation is Faustian. Rome and ancient Greece are not Faustian. Neither is the Bible. Oswald Spengler talks about this. They are a different Pole than the west. Faustian means the quest for knowledge and greater meaning. Those civilisations where more concerned with status, order, auctoritas and power.