But on most of the sounds these faders and knobs are not assigned to anything and you have to re route them, plus only 2 effects per part, if you want more than that you have to add the same sound to part 2, that is ridiculous
This board (the 06) is like a dream come true for me: affordable, soundshaping, really user friendly sequencer, and sooo many sounds. Tthe pad modes are AWESOME too!!! Everyuday i learn something new and i keep on being amazed! After owning a Fantom S for 20 years, this is THA BOMB!! THanks for yor great vid.
If I were looking for a workstation keyboard now, this would definitely be on the short list. It's light and has a lot of features usually only reserved for top-of-the-line, such as two sets of pitch bend/mod wheel, percussion pads and faders. I've always liked Roland stuff, but my Yamaha MOD-X is still serving me well in that department. Thanks.
@@mpmi7588 Good point. MOD-X is not considered a workstation keyboard, either, since the sequencing part is quite lacking. It's a budget version of the Montage.
@@lance134679 this is a budget version of the fantom, and some websites don't refer to this as a workstation, some do. You'll see this labeled as a synthesizer and not a workstation sometimes
Two things that I was hoping for: Velocity Sensitive Pads, and the ability to load in a sample loop and sync it to the tempo of the sequencer. My old Fantom X has these features.
This is a fantastic overview and Jacob Dupree is so personable and inspirational. This seems like the perfect keyboard for my needs: stand alone piano, daw in a box, plus excellent daw integration. I'm assuming it can control hardware directly as well, but I'll have to read up on that
I remember going to music school and I always had to bring floppy discs with me so my teacher could give me some new midi files. I had a Yamaha PSR 340. The tech has come such a long way from those days lol.
The first thing that attracts me to a keyboard is also a good grand piano sound. Thumbs up to Roland for this one. The second is a good virtual organ which I find it odd that it was not covered in this video presentation.
I’m a long time Fantom user and that has been my one turn of about Roland was their organ selection!!!! That had everything right but organ!!! Can’t wait to upgrade to the flagship Fantom I us to have a G6
This fantom zero series is so ideal but right now i'm fighting with myself whether to get Fantom 08 2022 or Fantom 88 2019 , now that 2019 is the true Maserati by far !
I like this stunning workstation ! l was disappointed of my Roland Fa 6 , I think Roland did the right thing when released this keyboard . Thank you so much .
😱 I can’t believe Roland just did this to me. I thought the Korg PA was my dream keyboard. The kurzweil series are the keyboards that are closest to the hardware I want other than the Fantoms but I have just been unsure about them. My Juno DS88 is a great keyboard and I choose it over the Yamaha MX and the Korg Kross/Krome at the time of purchase but this looks like it might be what I was waiting for at the price.
Korg PAs are a fairly different beast. Nothing in fantom 0 seems to have the arranger capabilities of a PA. I had a pa600, as well as fa06 and now Juno ds. I much prefer the roland keybed but the arrangement capabilities of PA were super fun - and highly impressive when used by an experienced pro (which I am not 😎). So it depends what you are looking for. If you want to noodle around or entertain others, PA is awesome. If you want to create your own stuff from scratch but not on a pc fantom 0 is likely better. P.s. While all my big stuff is currently roland, I kinda disagree that all those wavestates and opsixes and volcas and so on were "not of note" to industry and consumers alike. If anything, roland seems to be re re releasing stuff that "faithfully captures that Juno / jupiter sound" ad nauseum, which to somebody who frankly doesn't care is annoying as I genuinely prefer their layout and keybed. Real innovation seems to be outside any of the 3 big houses - hydrasynth, cobalt and argon, etc 🤷♂️
@@NikolaNovak Nice! I like that the PA can do a lot of the work for you in creating songs when you don’t know how to properly play certain instruments. I’m working on some original music now and would have loved to have a PA but going to just go ahead and work learning how to add the instruments I don’t know . Every brand has something to offer. If they all got rid of all their old sounds people would complain because they are missing. 😃 I’m glad for the number of sounds I get from different generations. I was having a conversation with someone last night how old music will never die also. We will still need those “old sounds” if we want to recreate the old music. Innovation is how they are able to capture the sounds of old instruments in a digital form. I know with pianos how they say digitals don’t feel like the real thing. Years later when we are on to something else they will say these new instruments don’t feel like the ones from 2022. 😃
Yes Roland did it to you. I own a Roland D-50 and D-70 🎹 Yamaha DX7 and a Krog Wavestation EX 🎹 Synthesizer. This is a upgrade to me. I just ordered a 06 today on Sweetwater!
I like workstations. i did not need to see this. This is actually in my acceptable price range for noise toys. IMO, there is a "serious musician" price cutoff on the more expensive boards. I am a small-time player and there is no way in hades i can justify $4k-ish for anything. $2k would be for something super-amazing.
This keyboard has two main SuperNatural pianos with several variations on each. I am testing it side by side with VST's like Ivory II, CFX and Vienna, and the supernatural pianos hold up quite well. With unlimited memory, cpu and storage, the VST's can sound more realistic, but I still love the SuperNatural pianos, they are quite expressive, realistic, ton's of dynamic range and they cut through the mix great.
Im new to synths and am yet to lean how to play :-) however was thinking of getting the Roland Fantom-8 (not the 08) or the Yamaha montage m8x - any recommendations or go with VST?
Dupree is almost unhinged here. I kinda love it. He looks like they were keeping him in a basement for a few days before this shoot. And that "outro jam" just proves me right. I think Sweetwater should just keep making him review this board... let's say a 10-episode season focusing only on Fantom-08, and we see how far out Dupree can really go.
The manuals don't look that different, not worth "upgrading" unless the Ableton integration, increased sampling time for the sample pads, and the touchscreen appeal that much to you. The FA's SuperNatural pianos are possibly better, but I won't be able to confirm until I can try one myself at Sam Ash in June or so. Now if you fully delve into sound design, then the Zen-Core engine is definitely an upgrade. I've got an MC-707, so I'm good there already, plus it is the better sampler and sequencer, too.
I have a Roland FA06, made in 2013 and I see barely any sound improvements here. Of course, I make my own sounds, but there are no leaps or bounds of improvement.
@@SWATTECHNOLOGIES Oh. My Fantom G7 from 2008 does have aftertouch. I didn't think they'd downgrade. Also, many of the features mentioned here were introduced in 2008, albeit renamed. Live mode, patch remain, Supernatural E. pianos etc. I see no feature here that would make an upgrade from my Fantom G7 a must.
@@alrick3000 This keyboard is not a flagship like the Fantom-G was. The new FANTOM's are modeles in design. There is no patch, live or song mode. And all the features here are new. These are new Supernatural Pianos and EPs. Not recycled sounds. This new Fantom beats the Fantom-G when it comes to sounds merely due to the Zen-Core, Tonewheel, Supernatural and Model Expansions engines.
Has anyone compared the display on the Fantom and Fantom-0? Albeit being smaller in size, the display on the Fantom-0 is higher in resolution (1280*720) than that on the the Fantom (800*480). Does that mean the Fantom-0 can display more things on the screen? Or the UI the same but with a higher DPI and a finer look?
1. Can the faders be assigned to control DAW mixer? 2. Can lights on pads be turned off, dimmed, or change to different color (I don't like purple/pink) ? 3. Is USB interface only audio or MIDI too? 4. Is there Autosampling within multisampling feature? 5. Can sampling being by set audio input threshold?
Hi Asante, great questions! The faders can be assigned for DAW Control. The lights can not be edited. There is both audio and MIDI over USB. I'm not quite sure what you mean by your last two questions, so feel free to give us a call to go into more detail. Thanks! Regards, Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
When I was seeing this vedio I was thinking about flstudio itself and sir you also said it….. I liked the way rolend have made this keyboard feature packed and future packed
Thx for review! How easy or hard is it to a) Change volume / mix of each instrument in split mode b) Change octave of each instrument in split mode I "downgraded" from Roland FA06 to DS61, as it was too much menu diving on FA06, whereas direct and easy on DS. I know Fantom-0 is "workstation", not "performace" keyboard, but it's so light it's tempting to use it for both :->
Hi Nikola, great question! Changing those values does require a bit of going through menus, but the volume change can be mapped to a slider in a performance patch. The octave button will default to shifting both sides of the split, but the individual patches can be transposed independently from within the menus. Thanks! Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thanks - that's extremely helpful but so unfortunate - sounds like the fa06 method whereas ds61 makes it so easy to change on the fly. It seems much more of a jamming machine 🤔🤷♂️
The Reference manual and Owner's manual. The pads are no different from the FA-06's if you are familiar with that older keyboard. Sampling functionality is less than basic.
@@jPaulofe but they are really good? so what are your questions that they could not answer? I tend to mention manuals because people often do not read them or only read the simplistic Owner's manual and not the others, which cover more detail, and then complain that the Owner's manual is too basic.
I have a lot of keyboards, but I don't have a Roland yet. Been thinking about getting one, might have to consider this one. The touch screen seems problematic however.
Integration will be a commonly increasing trend. Software will completely replace them otherwise. Hardware needs the compatibility with the digital processes people are becoming familiar with. Thus 'zencore' has come into being - and is a plenty powerful tool. Workstations have had mini-screens for a generation. A poor recent compromise would be nautilus - because whilst it has a screen; it has fewer handon controls along side to lend the tactile to the display. Roland is far better. A nice blend of hands-on with display. Yes it could be larger; but the screen quality is also better in terms of resolution. Along side your laptops and other instrumentation - you get alot with the 0 at a very competitive pandemic wind-down pricepoint.
I suppose as a woman barely half of his weight it would be hard to relate (lol) but certainly interfaces are a preference. They've been with us since before the days of Kronos and that's a long way now. Having a huge laptop screen with super sized interfaces is popular for a reason - I simply don't mind the little ones or find that they hold me back at all. YMMV. RnD does tend to be extensive here though.
The major let down of the fantoms compared to the Fa series is the storage of samples. Fa had 64 per sequence/song. New fantom has only 64 loaded to the whole synth. Major error by Roland. I have The Fa it costed a lot less than these new workstations. Quality of sound is on a par.
@@ablesam I payed less than £800 in the UK for my fa06. I use the sampler all the time. I can save recordings from external and internal synths with some samples lasting 15 mins. Each 32gb flash saves approx 7 X 64 samples each lasting from 3 mins to 15 mins long. All easily recallable from the flash.
@@pauljeavons8878 Nice deal, but not everyone gets that kind of a bargain. The new FANTOM-0 can do what the FA does and even better to an extent with its only limitation being that it does not have expandable flash memory. And Roland's intention with the sampler in these new keyboards are completely different from their previous workstation lineup. Each sample on the new FANTOM-0 can go up to 60 mins per sample. Currently the FANTOM-0 has 64 slots, but again Roland can improve that by doubling that. FANTOM-0 is meant to be receiving updates like the bigger brother, so the current state of the sampler is not what it will be in a few months or a year. Plus, there is direct sampling to (internal/external) storage, meaning I can swap in/out samples faster than before. Plus SLC flash memory, meaning it will out last any SD card.
@@pauljeavons8878 FA is 64 samples per multi preset ("Studio Set", "Scene" for the newer keyboards), and would read them right off the SD card, though with an odd 14-sec limitation per sample despite reading them off the card. How do you get 3-15min?
@@ablesam FA and Fantom-0 are very, very samey beyond the front panel controls and Ableton integration, I took a peak at the manuals, and another guy tells me that the Fantom-0 pianos don't sound as good as the SuperNatural pianos on the FA, plus the FA can load the EXP-04 Axial expansion whose "PremierGrand" preset beats anything the FA comes with on its own. EXP-05 contains the best electric piano, too, then EXP-11 has higher-fidelity synth waveforms than anything in the Zen-Core engine of Fantom-0, the big Fantom, and other Zen-Core-powered products. The sequencer on the Fantom-0 is no match for the FA's either, but the touchscreen on the Fantom-0 is certainly going to help in user-friendliness, at least. Sampling's the same less-than-basic affair, the manual page even looks the same. I missed where it says 60min. That's a lot of time.
Aftertouch for one, still trying to figure out the rest. I'd say slower CPU, screen doesn't look as responsive. It's light, so cheaper plastic. Keybed likely isn't as good of quality (if you considered the flagship Fantoms good keybeds).
I heard lots of mention of SuperNatural engine pianos and none of the V-Piano engine in Roland's top DPs. Also I noticed the 88-key model comes with the PHA-4 keybed instead of the PH5 in the top model.
@@kmjansen so I wonder how different that feels. Because the weight difference between the Fantom 8 and the 08 is not much different at all. So the new keys didn’t save them any in the weight category.
Hi, TP! Thanks for the interest. There are a number of differences between the flagship Fantom instruments and the new Fantom-0 series. Some of the big ones are the synth filter (analog on the Fantom, digital on the Fantom-0), the keybed (highly upgraded on the Fantom - the 88-key weighted version of the flagship has the same PHA-50 keybed as Roland's high-end stage pianos), and a lot more connectivity on the full Fantom (including CV/gate to integrate with modular synth rigs). The Fantom-0 keyboards are also a good bit smaller and lighter than the full Fantoms, so they could potentially be a better choice for gigging players for whom portability is a concern. Hope this helps, and feel free to contact me directly with any further questions! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
@@pshimmons The Fantom 8 is more than 60lbs whereas the Fantom 08 is 32lbs according to Sweetwater so I think that the keybed plays a large part in the weight discrepancy. In terms of the difference I’m sure it’s not a $2k difference :-)
Would like to see a side by side Comparison against the modx8 to find out which is the best. I already have the Fantom 8 and the Montage 8 but they are too heavy to use for gigs... I have a modx8 and am looking for ..... another keyboard anyway !! Us musicians, never content with what we have ! 🤣
quick question... when any slider or even the filter is moved the value jumps to the current slider or knob position.. can it be set to where the value changes until the slider or knob gets to that value.. example.. if value is at 64 and slider is at 10 as I slide up value will only change when slider reaches 64...
Hi, Jose! Thanks for the interest. I double-checked Roland's user manual for the Fantom-0 series, and I couldn't find a way to change the behavior of the sliders in the way you describe. I will forward your question to my contacts at Roland just in case there is something I missed. I'll circle back here once I get a reply from them! Feel free to contact me directly with any further questions in the meantime. Thanks again! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
So, the only missing feature from the regular Fantom line is a sample interface. Probably worth it, when you think about having both the joystick and the traditional wheels. What other keyboard or synthesizer includes both controllers together?
have the juno ds 61 and the quality of the knobs and keys is excellent. I play a lot and the keys are like new. The slides and buttons do not make noise. I ask, what do you think about the build quality of the fantom o 61? Should I upgrade? 
Between these tiers it's more about what you use it for. Juno may be considered by some to be 'entry' over the Roland-0's mid tier; but anyone asking your question should really simplify it to --- 'do I want Zencore in a midtier workstation'. That answers a number of usage questions by association. Be it 'I'm going to want the full features - so I'll save for the flagship' or even 'I don't need that much synthesis in a board that can't fully utilize it' (Polyphony wall). Much like your Juno - the board can work brilliantly as an accompaniment (smaller size model). However whilst Juno is perfect for that, as with Modx from Yamaha; the 0 series offers a lot more features that bring it more inline with the integration and controller themes that were baked in. This makes me feel almost as if it's wasted in that position - and demands a main stage placement. Only problem is, it's lacking the power to really make the most of the onboard tech (think of how they went on to make [Modx +] recently to improve that. Anyone in a studio is going to have a lot of other devices to integrate. So much so that they may not need such a midrange device, over a simple controller and limitless VST. On the road - I don't see the 0 series as useful in the way the FA is (straightforward without unnecessary features that aren't fully powered) whilst the full Fantom is -- but also much heavier and with shortfalls of its own depending on model/size. Fantom-0 has a pleasant enough build (I personally don't like the revised keybeds but thats nothing people should care about really - it's preference) and whether or not you want a VST in a box (almost literally in this case) is really about how you fit it into your playing -- not whether it's bad or good for 'everyone'. If you see what I mean. People buy it because it does have a good range of features. But they often find it limited in their actual use, or not quite powerful enough for their deepdives. So its all down to 'what parts will I actually use'. Juno is amazing honestly for its price TO use value.
Hello friend, could you explain to me how to start a sequence from a certain measure or bit to edit what has already been recorded in that sequence??? generally after recording we have to fix some things but the sequence always starts from 0 ZERO in advance thank you very much Blessings brother
Nothing has deep integration with Zenbeats. Roland told me over email that they are working on that. Even MIDI controllers designed to have dedicated DAW functionality do not work as they can with Zenbeats, only general MIDI CCs work.
We know good, and well only logic pro X in Appleton does not work. Integrative lease seamlessly with other software's. I don't know why you would say that knowing that it doesn't.
Im new to synths and am yet to lean how to play :-) however was thinking of getting the Roland Fantom-8 (not the 08) or the Yamaha montage m8x - any recommendations or go with VST?
I think you can’t really compare the fantom-0 to the Kronos SE, as the Kronos SE is only the same Kronos functionality with a lighter and no aftertouch keyboard, but the Fantom-0 has a lot less things than the Fantom, and some of them you have to buy… wondering if they worth the price…
The reason it's so integrated into Ableton is that the company gave access to the source code and so on, to allow it to work cooperatively. Other companies, lets use Cubase as an example; will not do so because Steinberg is owned by Yamaha Corp. They don't want other competitors to have access in that fashion, since it's a rival brand for them. I could say more on the topic but I won't since I am affiliated, it's not really appropriate. Personally I am not a big 'integration' fan - because I didn't grow up with it. I know, time moves on. But these are still little steps in that regard. It goes with Ableton but still maps well to others.
Hi, thanks for your interest! Roland has quite a few models that would be great for a beginning player. I would look at the FP series of digital pianos if you are interested in the best-feeling weighted key action, or the GO:KEYS series of portable keyboards if you want the most affordable option with the widest variety of sounds: www.sweetwater.com/roland-fp/series www.sweetwater.com/roland-go/series I hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly if you have any further questions, and thanks again! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
pretty much the same in terms of synth engine. minor cutdowns in rear ports (most notably lack of XLR+1/4 combi jacks). Besides that, it's got lesser version of hammer action (PHA-4, instead of PHA-50), smaller screen, less hands-on control options, lesser audio interface (16x2, as opposed to 16x3 in on Fantom). You can still import the same expansions/models and presets as Fantom
@@pshimmons more importantly, this can do everything Jupiter-X can do (minus JD800/vocal expansion... for now) and much much more for $500 less! Truly a bargain if you ask me
would be super nice if you guys could do a side by side comparison of the fantom-0 with the yamaha montage. would'nt be surprised if montage is planning to drop an update on the montage after roland's release ?
Hi, thanks for your interest! You can absolutely connect the Fantom-0 instruments to a DAW. This would allow you to use the Fantom as a MIDI controller for virtual instruments in the software, and you can also sequence the sounds on the Fantom via MIDI coming out from the DAW. Whether you’re using the built-in sequencer on the Fantom or a software sequencer, you should be able to easily edit each note in your MIDI sequences as needed. Hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
Sequencer of Fantom is trash. It allows only 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures and is clip based (you need to chain midi clips to organize a song). For anything basic songwriting related you anyway will be using software midi sequencer bar primitive edm/rap. Yamaha CK 88 is rather traditional stage keyboard. If you are a performer and don't need any of these non keyboard synths, pads, sound effects, drum kits, etc., CK-88 is the way to go. But if you also involved in songwriting and producing songs Fantom 08 is a better option with massive collection of sounds, synth engine, MFX, 16 parts, USB audio stream. It even has mic input and additional 1/4 inch outputs for band music applications. Arguably Fantom - 08 is more complete keyboard (it's workstation afterall), but stage keyboards such as CK-88 has their own advantages otherwise none would buy them (MODX with the same GHS keyboard costs the same). BTW, if you interested in piano sound exclusively and using it mostly at home, P-515 is an option too (just watch out its weight).
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It's a Fantom-08 (OH Eight), not a Fantom 8.
256 mb for expansions / multisamples ???? 2022 ??? Man .....
@@ursullavandenbord2322 indeed
When it comes to music production and sampling, which one will you choose this Fantom or the new Kurzweil K2700?
KORG:" I think users don't need faders, knob, pads, buttons. Roland:" I'm with those users and we can prove you are wrong." >.
Would you like to develop a bit the Korg VS Roland (VS Yamaha eventually too) because this comment lacks a substantial amount of information IMO???
But on most of the sounds these faders and knobs are not assigned to anything and you have to re route them, plus only 2 effects per part, if you want more than that you have to add the same sound to part 2, that is ridiculous
This board (the 06) is like a dream come true for me: affordable, soundshaping, really user friendly sequencer, and sooo many sounds. Tthe pad modes are AWESOME too!!! Everyuday i learn something new and i keep on being amazed! After owning a Fantom S for 20 years, this is THA BOMB!!
THanks for yor great vid.
I desperately needed an affordable replacement for my FA-06, this is it. Ordered and being delivered next week!
If I were looking for a workstation keyboard now, this would definitely be on the short list. It's light and has a lot of features usually only reserved for top-of-the-line, such as two sets of pitch bend/mod wheel, percussion pads and faders. I've always liked Roland stuff, but my Yamaha MOD-X is still serving me well in that department. Thanks.
Modx doesn't sample though.
@@mpmi7588 Good point. MOD-X is not considered a workstation keyboard, either, since the sequencing part is quite lacking. It's a budget version of the Montage.
@@lance134679 yes that sequencer really disappointed me
@@mpmi7588 If they put nice crossfades on the morphing feature though... I really hope they do. It'll be the best wavetable synth on the market.
@@lance134679 this is a budget version of the fantom, and some websites don't refer to this as a workstation, some do.
You'll see this labeled as a synthesizer and not a workstation sometimes
Just ordered the 08 bundle!
I have had a Korg workstation sampler 61 key for 20 years or so!
Love these sounds and 88 keys!!
Two things that I was hoping for: Velocity Sensitive Pads, and the ability to load in a sample loop and sync it to the tempo of the sequencer. My old Fantom X has these features.
This is a fantastic overview and Jacob Dupree is so personable and inspirational. This seems like the perfect keyboard for my needs: stand alone piano, daw in a box, plus excellent daw integration. I'm assuming it can control hardware directly as well, but I'll have to read up on that
I remember going to music school and I always had to bring floppy discs with me so my teacher could give me some new midi files. I had a Yamaha PSR 340. The tech has come such a long way from those days lol.
This is "THE" board I have waiting for! Happy Anniversary Roland😁
The first thing that attracts me to a keyboard is also a good grand piano sound. Thumbs up to Roland for this one. The second is a good virtual organ which I find it odd that it was not covered in this video presentation.
I’m a long time Fantom user and that has been my one turn of about Roland was their organ selection!!!! That had everything right but organ!!! Can’t wait to upgrade to the flagship Fantom I us to have a G6
Flawless expression of sounds, definitely deserves a like👏🏽👏🏽
This fantom zero series is so ideal but right now i'm fighting with myself whether to get Fantom 08 2022 or Fantom 88 2019 , now that 2019 is the true Maserati by far !
"Ocarina!" **plays Zelda referencing Ocarina of Time**
DUDE THIS MAN HE UNDERSTOOD THE ASSIGNMENT
Saria's song
I like this stunning workstation ! l was disappointed of my Roland Fa 6 , I think Roland did the right thing when released this keyboard . Thank you so much .
😱 I can’t believe Roland just did this to me. I thought the Korg PA was my dream keyboard. The kurzweil series are the keyboards that are closest to the hardware I want other than the Fantoms but I have just been unsure about them. My Juno DS88 is a great keyboard and I choose it over the Yamaha MX and the Korg Kross/Krome at the time of purchase but this looks like it might be what I was waiting for at the price.
Korg PAs are a fairly different beast. Nothing in fantom 0 seems to have the arranger capabilities of a PA. I had a pa600, as well as fa06 and now Juno ds. I much prefer the roland keybed but the arrangement capabilities of PA were super fun - and highly impressive when used by an experienced pro (which I am not 😎).
So it depends what you are looking for. If you want to noodle around or entertain others, PA is awesome. If you want to create your own stuff from scratch but not on a pc fantom 0 is likely better.
P.s. While all my big stuff is currently roland, I kinda disagree that all those wavestates and opsixes and volcas and so on were "not of note" to industry and consumers alike. If anything, roland seems to be re re releasing stuff that "faithfully captures that Juno / jupiter sound" ad nauseum, which to somebody who frankly doesn't care is annoying as I genuinely prefer their layout and keybed. Real innovation seems to be outside any of the 3 big houses - hydrasynth, cobalt and argon, etc 🤷♂️
@@NikolaNovak Nice! I like that the PA can do a lot of the work for you in creating songs when you don’t know how to properly play certain instruments. I’m working on some original music now and would have loved to have a PA but going to just go ahead and work learning how to add the instruments I don’t know .
Every brand has something to offer. If they all got rid of all their old sounds people would complain because they are missing. 😃 I’m glad for the number of sounds I get from different generations. I was having a conversation with someone last night how old music will never die also. We will still need those “old sounds” if we want to recreate the old music. Innovation is how they are able to capture the sounds of old instruments in a digital form.
I know with pianos how they say digitals don’t feel like the real thing. Years later when we are on to something else they will say these new instruments don’t feel like the ones from 2022. 😃
Yes Roland did it to you.
I own a Roland D-50 and D-70 🎹
Yamaha DX7 and a Krog Wavestation EX 🎹 Synthesizer.
This is a upgrade to me.
I just ordered a 06 today on Sweetwater!
@@ErraticFaith korg minilogue
Simple to the point analogue synth
Great korg product
I like workstations. i did not need to see this. This is actually in my acceptable price range for noise toys. IMO, there is a "serious musician" price cutoff on the more expensive boards. I am a small-time player and there is no way in hades i can justify $4k-ish for anything. $2k would be for something super-amazing.
Perfect tutorial. Thank you! We live in great times where you can spend some money and have a gear that will give you infinite capabilities to create.
This keyboard has two main SuperNatural pianos with several variations on each. I am testing it side by side with VST's like Ivory II, CFX and Vienna, and the supernatural pianos hold up quite well. With unlimited memory, cpu and storage, the VST's can sound more realistic, but I still love the SuperNatural pianos, they are quite expressive, realistic, ton's of dynamic range and they cut through the mix great.
Im new to synths and am yet to lean how to play :-) however was thinking of getting the Roland Fantom-8 (not the 08) or the Yamaha montage m8x - any recommendations or go with VST?
Dupree is almost unhinged here. I kinda love it. He looks like they were keeping him in a basement for a few days before this shoot. And that "outro jam" just proves me right. I think Sweetwater should just keep making him review this board... let's say a 10-episode season focusing only on Fantom-08, and we see how far out Dupree can really go.
I love how as soon as you get to the ocarina, you play Zelda, no hesitation 😂
great review as always. THx.. Any concerns about the polyphony? I've seen some other reviews and its concerning. I trust you cause you CAN PLAY!!!!!
Great overview...definitely top of my shopping list as I'm in the market for a new workstation.
His happiness did it for me. those smiles when something slightly unexpected happens :)
I just bought a PANTOM 06 today from Sweetwater!🤗
Let’s go! The videos are 💧 I can’t wait as a dad on a budget eyeing the fantom but this makes it more attainable price wise, yes!
The upgraded FA i didn’t know I needed. My FA is awesome and all but this is just 🚀
The manuals don't look that different, not worth "upgrading" unless the Ableton integration, increased sampling time for the sample pads, and the touchscreen appeal that much to you. The FA's SuperNatural pianos are possibly better, but I won't be able to confirm until I can try one myself at Sam Ash in June or so.
Now if you fully delve into sound design, then the Zen-Core engine is definitely an upgrade. I've got an MC-707, so I'm good there already, plus it is the better sampler and sequencer, too.
Awesome great music song. So sound great audio. 👍
Great demo! Inspirational in fact
Lite version of the fantom yes please
Great demo!
I just want to like this keyboard but strangely acoustic instruments sounds really dated, like an old FantomX 🙁
I. Can. Not. WAIT FOR MINE TO GET HERE🎉🎉🎉🎉
I might go for one...
Great Sounds and Great Playing
I have a Roland FA06, made in 2013 and I see barely any sound improvements here. Of course, I make my own sounds, but there are no leaps or bounds of improvement.
Even my Fantom G from 2008 doesn't sound too different from this (except for the piano and synth sounds).
@@alrick3000 And still no aftertouch, although I have that on my $149 mini controller. Go figure.
@@SWATTECHNOLOGIES Oh. My Fantom G7 from 2008 does have aftertouch. I didn't think they'd downgrade. Also, many of the features mentioned here were introduced in 2008, albeit renamed. Live mode, patch remain, Supernatural E. pianos etc. I see no feature here that would make an upgrade from my Fantom G7 a must.
@@alrick3000 Agree
@@alrick3000 This keyboard is not a flagship like the Fantom-G was. The new FANTOM's are modeles in design. There is no patch, live or song mode. And all the features here are new. These are new Supernatural Pianos and EPs. Not recycled sounds. This new Fantom beats the Fantom-G when it comes to sounds merely due to the Zen-Core, Tonewheel, Supernatural and Model Expansions engines.
That piano sound alone is worth the price, imho. Looks like it would be great both in the studio as well as onstage.
We still lacking regular sequencer feature found in Fantom X & G
Is there a video that shows how to work the sequencer specifically?
ME too wanted to learn how to sequence 🤪🤪
That looks like the phantom 08 not as you say, the phantom eight - please don’t confuse us. (anymore than we already are 😂).
Has anyone compared the display on the Fantom and Fantom-0? Albeit being smaller in size, the display on the Fantom-0 is higher in resolution (1280*720) than that on the the Fantom (800*480). Does that mean the Fantom-0 can display more things on the screen? Or the UI the same but with a higher DPI and a finer look?
1. Can the faders be assigned to control DAW mixer?
2. Can lights on pads be turned off, dimmed, or change to different color (I don't like purple/pink) ?
3. Is USB interface only audio or MIDI too?
4. Is there Autosampling within multisampling feature?
5. Can sampling being by set audio input threshold?
Hi Asante, great questions! The faders can be assigned for DAW Control. The lights can not be edited. There is both audio and MIDI over USB. I'm not quite sure what you mean by your last two questions, so feel free to give us a call to go into more detail. Thanks!
Regards,
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Outstanding review!
When I was seeing this vedio I was thinking about flstudio itself and sir you also said it….. I liked the way rolend have made this keyboard feature packed and future packed
Thx for review! How easy or hard is it to
a) Change volume / mix of each instrument in split mode
b) Change octave of each instrument in split mode
I "downgraded" from Roland FA06 to DS61, as it was too much menu diving on FA06, whereas direct and easy on DS. I know Fantom-0 is "workstation", not "performace" keyboard, but it's so light it's tempting to use it for both :->
Hi Nikola, great question! Changing those values does require a bit of going through menus, but the volume change can be mapped to a slider in a performance patch. The octave button will default to shifting both sides of the split, but the individual patches can be transposed independently from within the menus.
Thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thanks - that's extremely helpful but so unfortunate - sounds like the fa06 method whereas ds61 makes it so easy to change on the fly. It seems much more of a jamming machine 🤔🤷♂️
If I didn't already own a A88 Mk II I would have ordered this in a heartbeat.
Looks like I might not be picking up that Juno-DS88 after all...
Great demo Jacob!!. I would like to see more detail on what can be really done with the PADs. Where can I find that? Thank you
The Reference manual and Owner's manual.
The pads are no different from the FA-06's if you are familiar with that older keyboard. Sampling functionality is less than basic.
@@Jason75913, thank you very much for the obvious answer… if the manuals were that good, I wouldn’t have made the question in the first place…
@@jPaulofe but they are really good? so what are your questions that they could not answer?
I tend to mention manuals because people often do not read them or only read the simplistic Owner's manual and not the others, which cover more detail, and then complain that the Owner's manual is too basic.
10:58 - that is the magic! Can you do the same with Kurzweil PC4?
I hope to get this
I am very interested in the Fantom-06! Awesome looking synthesizer!
Hey Rick, surprised you don't have one already :)
@@naturesrecovery4516 they don't ship until the end of May,
I saw the TR rec function be used on the Fantom, I was worried it wasn't on the Fantom-0, it is, the buttons just look different.
awesome review thank you!
How about the Indian Arabic styles and voices BR Can you able to bring one video?🇨🇦
I dream about this keyboard!
Great video, keep it up!
I have a lot of keyboards, but I don't have a Roland yet. Been thinking about getting one, might have to consider this one. The touch screen seems problematic however.
Integration will be a commonly increasing trend. Software will completely replace them otherwise. Hardware needs the compatibility with the digital processes people are becoming familiar with. Thus 'zencore' has come into being - and is a plenty powerful tool. Workstations have had mini-screens for a generation. A poor recent compromise would be nautilus - because whilst it has a screen; it has fewer handon controls along side to lend the tactile to the display. Roland is far better. A nice blend of hands-on with display. Yes it could be larger; but the screen quality is also better in terms of resolution. Along side your laptops and other instrumentation - you get alot with the 0 at a very competitive pandemic wind-down pricepoint.
@@ErraticFaith I just see the guy in the video constantly trying to touch a small icon, and it not registering at all.
I suppose as a woman barely half of his weight it would be hard to relate (lol) but certainly interfaces are a preference. They've been with us since before the days of Kronos and that's a long way now. Having a huge laptop screen with super sized interfaces is popular for a reason - I simply don't mind the little ones or find that they hold me back at all. YMMV. RnD does tend to be extensive here though.
Can’t beat a Yamaha in its class. Yamaha piano sounds are unbeatable.
The major let down of the fantoms compared to the Fa series is the storage of samples. Fa had 64 per sequence/song. New fantom has only 64 loaded to the whole synth. Major error by Roland. I have The Fa it costed a lot less than these new workstations. Quality of sound is on a par.
The FA06 on Sweetwater costs 1449 and the FANTOM-06 costs 1499. And the new FANTOM-0 beats the FA when it comes to value for money.
@@ablesam I payed less than £800 in the UK for my fa06. I use the sampler all the time. I can save recordings from external and internal synths with some samples lasting 15 mins. Each 32gb flash saves approx 7 X 64 samples each lasting from 3 mins to 15 mins long. All easily recallable from the flash.
@@pauljeavons8878 Nice deal, but not everyone gets that kind of a bargain. The new FANTOM-0 can do what the FA does and even better to an extent with its only limitation being that it does not have expandable flash memory. And Roland's intention with the sampler in these new keyboards are completely different from their previous workstation lineup.
Each sample on the new FANTOM-0 can go up to 60 mins per sample. Currently the FANTOM-0 has 64 slots, but again Roland can improve that by doubling that. FANTOM-0 is meant to be receiving updates like the bigger brother, so the current state of the sampler is not what it will be in a few months or a year.
Plus, there is direct sampling to (internal/external) storage, meaning I can swap in/out samples faster than before. Plus SLC flash memory, meaning it will out last any SD card.
@@pauljeavons8878 FA is 64 samples per multi preset ("Studio Set", "Scene" for the newer keyboards), and would read them right off the SD card, though with an odd 14-sec limitation per sample despite reading them off the card.
How do you get 3-15min?
@@ablesam FA and Fantom-0 are very, very samey beyond the front panel controls and Ableton integration, I took a peak at the manuals, and another guy tells me that the Fantom-0 pianos don't sound as good as the SuperNatural pianos on the FA, plus the FA can load the EXP-04 Axial expansion whose "PremierGrand" preset beats anything the FA comes with on its own. EXP-05 contains the best electric piano, too, then EXP-11 has higher-fidelity synth waveforms than anything in the Zen-Core engine of Fantom-0, the big Fantom, and other Zen-Core-powered products. The sequencer on the Fantom-0 is no match for the FA's either, but the touchscreen on the Fantom-0 is certainly going to help in user-friendliness, at least.
Sampling's the same less-than-basic affair, the manual page even looks the same. I missed where it says 60min. That's a lot of time.
So what are we giving up from the top Fantom models? Is there a chart someplace?
Aftertouch for one, still trying to figure out the rest. I'd say slower CPU, screen doesn't look as responsive. It's light, so cheaper plastic. Keybed likely isn't as good of quality (if you considered the flagship Fantoms good keybeds).
I heard lots of mention of SuperNatural engine pianos and none of the V-Piano engine in Roland's top DPs. Also I noticed the 88-key model comes with the PHA-4 keybed instead of the PH5 in the top model.
@@kmjansen so I wonder how different that feels. Because the weight difference between the Fantom 8 and the 08 is not much different at all. So the new keys didn’t save them any in the weight category.
Hi, TP! Thanks for the interest. There are a number of differences between the flagship Fantom instruments and the new Fantom-0 series. Some of the big ones are the synth filter (analog on the Fantom, digital on the Fantom-0), the keybed (highly upgraded on the Fantom - the 88-key weighted version of the flagship has the same PHA-50 keybed as Roland's high-end stage pianos), and a lot more connectivity on the full Fantom (including CV/gate to integrate with modular synth rigs). The Fantom-0 keyboards are also a good bit smaller and lighter than the full Fantoms, so they could potentially be a better choice for gigging players for whom portability is a concern. Hope this helps, and feel free to contact me directly with any further questions!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
@@pshimmons The Fantom 8 is more than 60lbs whereas the Fantom 08 is 32lbs according to Sweetwater so I think that the keybed plays a large part in the weight discrepancy. In terms of the difference I’m sure it’s not a $2k difference :-)
Screen to small for clip launching, multiple finger touches needed, crazy. But that's rodumb.
Would like to see a side by side Comparison against the modx8 to find out which is the best. I already have the Fantom 8 and the Montage 8 but they are too heavy to use for gigs... I have a modx8 and am looking for ..... another keyboard anyway !! Us musicians, never content with what we have ! 🤣
No need to compare side by side Roland Rules
The MODX sounds way better, no comparison. However the controls and workflow on the Roland are clearly better.
Can you sample ( eg a voice ) whilst listening to the sequence playing ?
quick question... when any slider or even the filter is moved the value jumps to the current slider or knob position.. can it be set to where the value changes until the slider or knob gets to that value.. example.. if value is at 64 and slider is at 10 as I slide up value will only change when slider reaches 64...
Hi, Jose! Thanks for the interest. I double-checked Roland's user manual for the Fantom-0 series, and I couldn't find a way to change the behavior of the sliders in the way you describe. I will forward your question to my contacts at Roland just in case there is something I missed. I'll circle back here once I get a reply from them! Feel free to contact me directly with any further questions in the meantime. Thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
This is dope 👍 imma own one ,one day..🤑
So, the only missing feature from the regular Fantom line is a sample interface. Probably worth it, when you think about having both the joystick and the traditional wheels. What other keyboard or synthesizer includes both controllers together?
It has a Sampling Possibility !!
As a retrofit, @@ingofritzsche7737?
Hey Sweetwater....While watching this video, my Juno Ds came up with a message saying this keyboard is a fake! What's up with that?😉😉
have the juno ds 61 and the quality of the knobs and keys is excellent. I play a lot and the keys are like new. The slides and buttons do not make noise. I ask, what do you think about the build quality of the fantom o 61? Should I upgrade?

Between these tiers it's more about what you use it for. Juno may be considered by some to be 'entry' over the Roland-0's mid tier; but anyone asking your question should really simplify it to --- 'do I want Zencore in a midtier workstation'.
That answers a number of usage questions by association.
Be it 'I'm going to want the full features - so I'll save for the flagship'
or even 'I don't need that much synthesis in a board that can't fully utilize it' (Polyphony wall).
Much like your Juno - the board can work brilliantly as an accompaniment (smaller size model). However whilst Juno is perfect for that, as with Modx from Yamaha; the 0 series offers a lot more features that bring it more inline with the integration and controller themes that were baked in.
This makes me feel almost as if it's wasted in that position - and demands a main stage placement. Only problem is, it's lacking the power to really make the most of the onboard tech (think of how they went on to make [Modx +] recently to improve that.
Anyone in a studio is going to have a lot of other devices to integrate. So much so that they may not need such a midrange device, over a simple controller and limitless VST.
On the road - I don't see the 0 series as useful in the way the FA is (straightforward without unnecessary features that aren't fully powered) whilst the full Fantom is -- but also much heavier and with shortfalls of its own depending on model/size.
Fantom-0 has a pleasant enough build (I personally don't like the revised keybeds but thats nothing people should care about really - it's preference) and whether or not you want a VST in a box (almost literally in this case) is really about how you fit it into your playing -- not whether it's bad or good for 'everyone'. If you see what I mean.
People buy it because it does have a good range of features. But they often find it limited in their actual use, or not quite powerful enough for their deepdives. So its all down to 'what parts will I actually use'. Juno is amazing honestly for its price TO use value.
Hello friend, could you explain to me how to start a sequence from a certain measure or bit to edit what has already been recorded in that sequence??? generally after recording we have to fix some things but the sequence always starts from 0 ZERO in advance thank you very much Blessings brother
Will you have chance to review MEDELI AKX10?
Wow. Loving it.
Hi! Can this unit load SVD. files? It’s kind of a dealbreaker where I’m from 🇿🇦
Has the polyphony issue on the Fantom been fixed? I saw some people talking about it and it seems pretty bad.
like how many times he has to tap the screen to get it to register lol. good job roland .
I think it’s made like that for a reason so you don’t accidentally tap while playing and change something unintentionally
@@Jvaldes609 LOL......No, not at all.
@@Jvaldes609I like your optimism lol.......but no.
@@Jvaldes609 lol
Yea it's not a very well thought out keyboard, it's all over the place, and then that small screen, rodumb, at it's best, they must be smoking.
Excellent 👌
I love roland keyboards.🎹🎹🎹🎹🎧
I wish this has deep integration with Zenbeats.
Nothing has deep integration with Zenbeats. Roland told me over email that they are working on that. Even MIDI controllers designed to have dedicated DAW functionality do not work as they can with Zenbeats, only general MIDI CCs work.
Is this the replacemnet to the Fantom 6/7/8? what are the features that the Fanton 06/07/08 don't have that the 6/7/8 do?
I think this is the replacement for the FA-0x series. Same price point from what I'm seeing.
It’s the lite version of the Fantom. I have the Fantom 8 and can tell you it’s a tank with all the bells and whistles.
@@mikemorrisonmusic I have my Fantom 7 on order, can't wait to get it in a few months.
can you have an external video out for that?
every video demo I have seen on this new unit the sampling function has been avoided like this plague….why.?
Are there different time -signatures. Other than 4/4.
We know good, and well
only logic pro X in Appleton does not work. Integrative lease seamlessly with other software's. I don't know why you would say that knowing that it doesn't.
Im new to synths and am yet to lean how to play :-) however was thinking of getting the Roland Fantom-8 (not the 08) or the Yamaha montage m8x - any recommendations or go with VST?
I have a Korg Kronos SE and wonder how the Fantom 0 series would compare to that board. The sequencer seems to be somewhat easier to me.
I think you can’t really compare the fantom-0 to the Kronos SE, as the Kronos SE is only the same Kronos functionality with a lighter and no aftertouch keyboard, but the Fantom-0 has a lot less things than the Fantom, and some of them you have to buy… wondering if they worth the price…
@@jPaulofe The Kronos SE does have aftertouch, perhaps you are thinking of the LS88 which is lighter.
You’re right, I just referring to the LS… my bad
When will it be supported with other DAW besides logic, and able to?
The reason it's so integrated into Ableton is that the company gave access to the source code and so on, to allow it to work cooperatively. Other companies, lets use Cubase as an example; will not do so because Steinberg is owned by Yamaha Corp. They don't want other competitors to have access in that fashion, since it's a rival brand for them.
I could say more on the topic but I won't since I am affiliated, it's not really appropriate. Personally I am not a big 'integration' fan - because I didn't grow up with it. I know, time moves on. But these are still little steps in that regard. It goes with Ableton but still maps well to others.
Is this the Roland 50th Anniversary instrument release? Or there will be something else on April 18?
which roland model would you recommend for a keybord beginners
Hi, thanks for your interest! Roland has quite a few models that would be great for a beginning player. I would look at the FP series of digital pianos if you are interested in the best-feeling weighted key action, or the GO:KEYS series of portable keyboards if you want the most affordable option with the widest variety of sounds:
www.sweetwater.com/roland-fp/series
www.sweetwater.com/roland-go/series
I hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly if you have any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
Just like the modx, can i layer sounds, like piano+ pad+ string?
Hi! How is the keybed quality? And what can you tell me about f o6 - o7 Keys?
So compared to the regular Fantom what are we giving up? Is there a chart of the missing features someplace?
pretty much the same in terms of synth engine. minor cutdowns in rear ports (most notably lack of XLR+1/4 combi jacks). Besides that, it's got lesser version of hammer action (PHA-4, instead of PHA-50), smaller screen, less hands-on control options, lesser audio interface (16x2, as opposed to 16x3 in on Fantom). You can still import the same expansions/models and presets as Fantom
oh, also a single channel of assignable buttons/faders, as opposed to 2
@@RustediMac for like half the price… yes…. Thank you, I think I’ll take one!
@@pshimmons more importantly, this can do everything Jupiter-X can do (minus JD800/vocal expansion... for now) and much much more for $500 less! Truly a bargain if you ask me
@@RustediMac I'm pretty sure they put in a slower CPU and left out the aftertouch as well.
Hows the sampler and its features
Nice one thank you
Is it compatible with Reaper?
would be super nice if you guys could do a side by side comparison of the fantom-0 with the yamaha montage.
would'nt be surprised if montage is planning to drop an update on the montage after roland's release ?
Update for what?
Can it be easily connected to a DAW app on the computer and amend the midi (per note)?
Hi, thanks for your interest! You can absolutely connect the Fantom-0 instruments to a DAW. This would allow you to use the Fantom as a MIDI controller for virtual instruments in the software, and you can also sequence the sounds on the Fantom via MIDI coming out from the DAW. Whether you’re using the built-in sequencer on the Fantom or a software sequencer, you should be able to easily edit each note in your MIDI sequences as needed.
Hope this helps - feel free to contact me directly with any further questions, and thanks again!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
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Nice 👍 thanks 🙏
Roland fantom 08 or Yamaha ck 88? Is it worth it to sacrifice a little bit better sounds on Yamaha, for sequencer plus everything else on Roland?
Sequencer of Fantom is trash. It allows only 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures and is clip based (you need to chain midi clips to organize a song). For anything basic songwriting related you anyway will be using software midi sequencer bar primitive edm/rap. Yamaha CK 88 is rather traditional stage keyboard. If you are a performer and don't need any of these non keyboard synths, pads, sound effects, drum kits, etc., CK-88 is the way to go. But if you also involved in songwriting and producing songs Fantom 08 is a better option with massive collection of sounds, synth engine, MFX, 16 parts, USB audio stream. It even has mic input and additional 1/4 inch outputs for band music applications. Arguably Fantom - 08 is more complete keyboard (it's workstation afterall), but stage keyboards such as CK-88 has their own advantages otherwise none would buy them (MODX with the same GHS keyboard costs the same). BTW, if you interested in piano sound exclusively and using it mostly at home, P-515 is an option too (just watch out its weight).
Aftertouch?