I loved this. My great-grandparents, Mr and Mrs Ralph Hoffhines, lived at 1234 Bryden Road near Oak St and I was very excited to see a glimpse of the house. I am so glad to see that the neighborhood is coming back. I've driven past the house on trips back home, but have never been inside as the house was sold when Ralph passed in 1964.
A Battle of Flags also had happened in Nelsonville , Ohio during the summer of 2023 . Rainbow Flags vs. Trump Flags , with a few Confederate Flags . We came back to our home , with a conviction to display our own flags . It is - of course - The Flag of The UNITED States of America .
I noticed that the story of The Columbus Foundation catching grief by neglecting and demolishing a Firestone mansion "for a green space" wasn't covered.
The problem is caused by both sides. The racist conseratives who refuse to devote tax dollars to old established neighborhoods that allow them to deteriorate and the poor blacks who don't realize the value of their property until developpers come in to take it from them for cheap.
Ann Boylen totally agree! The problem is also prevalent in Historical Black Neighborhoods in Houston. It at times in my view a changing of a communities in manifold ways. Oftimes negatively.
During and after suburbanization, with the addition of further migration of blacks from the south, blacks were renting these properties from whites, generally speaking. It's the owners' responsibility to do the upkeep of the properties they rent out, not the occupants'...all they wanted was the rental income. Neither party cared for the property as it should. You need to take into account that after WW2, the attitude was "out with the old, in with the new". In other words, old buildings, including victorian, Italianate/rennaisance, Queen Ann, etc. style homes, such as these, were not valued and respected as they are today. That's a large reason why this area, among others everywhere, went into decline. Also, blacks then were virtually unable to buy homes with a mortgage, so they were forced to rent. You cannot develop an attitude using today's racial climate, which is much more positive now. You also can't look at black people as having the same opportunities and such as whites, esp 60 years ago. Regardless, it's about socioeconomics, rather than racial make-up...case in point, look at Franklinton, historically and currently the worst district in the city, along with the hilltop, both of which have been largely white since their inception in 1797, and both working class. In case you haven't been in that area lately, it's just as dilapidated as the east side, if not more, and is 90% white.
Ann, it’s not anyone’s job to come in and tell you what your house is worth and a bucket of paint and a garbage can goes a long way. Run the drug dealers and thugs out and the area will be much nicer. I’m white and they try that shit in my area the police and neighbors will harass the shit out of them until they’re gone. We don’t care what color we don’t play that shit. Quit blaming everything on everyone else and take responsibility . It’s really pathetic that people won’t. Remember. Paint trash can, maybe a little wood from depot, etc . Get neighbors to all meet up every weekend and help one house at a time. This is the difference between true successful communities and ones that sit around making up reasons for why they’ve fallen so far behind
Screw the owners, if you’re living in a great property and going to be there for years go buy $100 worth the paint and fix it up. Most landlords will definitely work with you and many times take money off rent if you’re really helping fix things up. I know I use to own and rent properties and do did a lot of my friends. Sitting around making excuses on why you’re living in a dump and hoods a dump is bullsbit. When whites moved out and blacks moved in trash begins being thrown everywhere, here comes drug dealers and crime and there goes the neighborhood. It’s really sad. Nobody wants to deal w the actual reasons and problems so it’s easier to say it’s someone else’s fault. Will live a pathetic and sad laugh with that attitude
Kevin Odom , not going to say that idealism isn’t real somewhere, but it’s not realistic. First of all, it IS someone’s job to come in and tell you what your house is worth...maybe not sentimentally, but in tax assessed and market value. That’s what the county auditor does. Second, yeah, some landlords welcome you doing some work and putting money into their investment...then some evict you once you’re done, after getting free labor, free materials, and free money eventually. Sure that is wrong, if not evil, but we are talking about Americans. Third, it appears you either have a problem with black people that allows you to buy into what intelligent people can see through, or you’re simply ignorant. Go to the near west side of Columbus and explain your theory to us again. Race is not the issue. Drug dealers...yeah, they only come in black, don’t they. Let me say that i was raised to be respectful of others’ property, which i am, and to the same degree as if it were my own. The truth is, the lower-rungs of society don’t see this as a virtue. They usually don’t respect their own possessions, let alone anyone elses. It’s part of the culture of poverty. In essence, not everyone has the same mindset as you. That’s not excusing anyone from criticism or accountability...just making a factual statement to draw conclusions on. Finally, nobody is making excuses for why their ‘hood has gone to shit. I know why mine has, and i’ve kept my house up very well for 13+ years. Not much else i can do. Those who live in poorer areas don’t give a fuck about community or having the street look all pretty. And when someone does actually put money and labor into their property, it’s for practical reasons (money), not appearance. Nearly every “improvement” looks worse than it did without. So, although i believe in your ideal there, minus the racist crap, i have more a duty to follow reality.
How is it that this video was beautifully done and not once mention racist attitudes within the community! I am not saying there wasnt racial issues adding to this community not staying strong this video certainly shows the exact same type of people I lived arround for 5 years! I love the homes the smaller business and the people here!
I felt this story has a focus of - How Olde Towne East became prosperous and diverse . We can change racist attitudes now ! How do we work on the systemic or even the ignorant ?
P, S I have a " theory ". I think the attitudes within the community's early history , may be a life of being blissfully ignorant of their own white priviledge . There was little to challenge this existence .
They did mention it. There was very little racist attitudes in the 1950s. Things started heating up after the suburbs and interstates were built. Also the riots on the east side of Columbus helped destroy the community. But before that Black and whites live together on the east side. The video does mention that, they don’t mention the 1960 riots.
Yo, bump chase, this is such an oxymoron to have chase as a sponson, AEP…. None of these folks care about Columbus and it’s people. Appreciate WOSU for this reporting but also gotta look at the big picture and the harm done by these changes and corporations.
I loved this. My great-grandparents, Mr and Mrs Ralph Hoffhines, lived at 1234 Bryden Road near Oak St and I was very excited to see a glimpse of the house. I am so glad to see that the neighborhood is coming back. I've driven past the house on trips back home, but have never been inside as the house was sold when Ralph passed in 1964.
I'm watching this in 2021 everyone Godbless you
I grew up all over east side its so amazing to know your history
A Battle of Flags also had happened in Nelsonville , Ohio during the summer of 2023 . Rainbow Flags vs. Trump Flags , with a few Confederate Flags . We came back to our home , with a conviction to display our own flags . It is - of course - The Flag of The UNITED States of America .
It is beautiful here. It is the new Bexley.
Awesome video thanks for sharing
Very cool, nice work Diana.. a lot of emotion and passion in this.
At 1:39 the guy said that the neighborhood was inclusive not exclusive but the documentary “Flag Wars” says otherwise
I noticed that the story of The Columbus Foundation catching grief by neglecting and demolishing a Firestone mansion "for a green space" wasn't covered.
Very similar of the Old Louisville neighborhood ❤️❤️
The problem is caused by both sides. The racist conseratives who refuse to devote tax dollars to old established neighborhoods that allow them to deteriorate and the poor blacks who don't realize the value of their property until developpers come in to take it from them for cheap.
Ann Boylen totally agree! The problem is also prevalent in Historical Black Neighborhoods in Houston. It at times in my view a changing of a communities in manifold ways. Oftimes negatively.
During and after suburbanization, with the addition of further migration of blacks from the south, blacks were renting these properties from whites, generally speaking. It's the owners' responsibility to do the upkeep of the properties they rent out, not the occupants'...all they wanted was the rental income. Neither party cared for the property as it should. You need to take into account that after WW2, the attitude was "out with the old, in with the new". In other words, old buildings, including victorian, Italianate/rennaisance, Queen Ann, etc. style homes, such as these, were not valued and respected as they are today. That's a large reason why this area, among others everywhere, went into decline. Also, blacks then were virtually unable to buy homes with a mortgage, so they were forced to rent. You cannot develop an attitude using today's racial climate, which is much more positive now. You also can't look at black people as having the same opportunities and such as whites, esp 60 years ago. Regardless, it's about socioeconomics, rather than racial make-up...case in point, look at Franklinton, historically and currently the worst district in the city, along with the hilltop, both of which have been largely white since their inception in 1797, and both working class. In case you haven't been in that area lately, it's just as dilapidated as the east side, if not more, and is 90% white.
Ann, it’s not anyone’s job to come in and tell you what your house is worth and a bucket of paint and a garbage can goes a long way. Run the drug dealers and thugs out and the area will be much nicer. I’m white and they try that shit in my area the police and neighbors will harass the shit out of them until they’re gone. We don’t care what color we don’t play that shit. Quit blaming everything on everyone else and take responsibility . It’s really pathetic that people won’t. Remember. Paint trash can, maybe a little wood from depot, etc . Get neighbors to all meet up every weekend and help one house at a time. This is the difference between true successful communities and ones that sit around making up reasons for why they’ve fallen so far behind
Screw the owners, if you’re living in a great property and going to be there for years go buy $100 worth the paint and fix it up. Most landlords will definitely work with you and many times take money off rent if you’re really helping fix things up. I know I use to own and rent properties and do did a lot of my friends. Sitting around making excuses on why you’re living in a dump and hoods a dump is bullsbit. When whites moved out and blacks moved in trash begins being thrown everywhere, here comes drug dealers and crime and there goes the neighborhood. It’s really sad. Nobody wants to deal w the actual reasons and problems so it’s easier to say it’s someone else’s fault. Will live a pathetic and sad laugh with that attitude
Kevin Odom , not going to say that idealism isn’t real somewhere, but it’s not realistic. First of all, it IS someone’s job to come in and tell you what your house is worth...maybe not sentimentally, but in tax assessed and market value. That’s what the county auditor does. Second, yeah, some landlords welcome you doing some work and putting money into their investment...then some evict you once you’re done, after getting free labor, free materials, and free money eventually. Sure that is wrong, if not evil, but we are talking about Americans. Third, it appears you either have a problem with black people that allows you to buy into what intelligent people can see through, or you’re simply ignorant. Go to the near west side of Columbus and explain your theory to us again. Race is not the issue. Drug dealers...yeah, they only come in black, don’t they. Let me say that i was raised to be respectful of others’ property, which i am, and to the same degree as if it were my own. The truth is, the lower-rungs of society don’t see this as a virtue. They usually don’t respect their own possessions, let alone anyone elses. It’s part of the culture of poverty. In essence, not everyone has the same mindset as you. That’s not excusing anyone from criticism or accountability...just making a factual statement to draw conclusions on. Finally, nobody is making excuses for why their ‘hood has gone to shit. I know why mine has, and i’ve kept my house up very well for 13+ years. Not much else i can do. Those who live in poorer areas don’t give a fuck about community or having the street look all pretty. And when someone does actually put money and labor into their property, it’s for practical reasons (money), not appearance. Nearly every “improvement” looks worse than it did without. So, although i believe in your ideal there, minus the racist crap, i have more a duty to follow reality.
How do these flags relate to the end of snp and the change in other hoods
I helped remodel a bunch of these in the early 90's. Too bad I didn't see the opportunity in that. Could have had my own by now but instead I'm a bum.
Love OTE!
How is it that this video was beautifully done and not once mention racist attitudes within the community! I am not saying there wasnt racial issues adding to this community not staying strong this video certainly shows the exact same type of people I lived arround for 5 years! I love the homes the smaller business and the people here!
I felt this story has a focus of - How Olde Towne East became prosperous and diverse . We can change racist attitudes now ! How do we work on the systemic or even the ignorant ?
P, S I have a " theory ". I think the attitudes within the community's early history , may be a life of being blissfully ignorant of their own white priviledge . There was little to challenge this existence .
They did mention it. There was very little racist attitudes in the 1950s. Things started heating up after the suburbs and interstates were built. Also the riots on the east side of Columbus helped destroy the community. But before that Black and whites live together on the east side. The video does mention that, they don’t mention the 1960 riots.
THIS IS FUCKING BRILLIANT MATE
It looks kinda nice over they're
No Olde Town East is Where Columbus State is now I'm sure.
Yo, bump chase, this is such an oxymoron to have chase as a sponson, AEP…. None of these folks care about Columbus and it’s people. Appreciate WOSU for this reporting but also gotta look at the big picture and the harm done by these changes and corporations.
hope all the hoodies get air jordans from father xmas this year