This was fantastic. In summary: 1. Bart Ehrman does not agree with Islam. 2. It is implausible that Jesus "brought" a scripture as the Quran claims. 3. The New Testament is quite accurate with additions, not corruptions. 4. Apocryphal stories found in the Quran are fabrications. 5. Jesus was definitely crucified. 6. Early Christians were not "Muslims," they worshiped Jesus. 7. Jesus was always known as the Son of God in a sense. 8. The 4 Gospels are the most authentic Gospels. 9. Paul's Undisputed Epistles are definitely authentic. 10. The Gospels partially agree but also disagree with the Quran. 11. Christians until the 7th century believed in Jesus as God and/or Son of God. 12. Jesus definitely did not predict Muhammad. 13. Jesus and Muhammad are hard to compare. *Muslims should stop misusing Bart Ehrman to validate their own beliefs. He doesn't agree with them at all.* To hear more from Bart Ehrman's studies, sign up for his upcoming seminar before November 28th at: www.bartdehrman.com/apostatechristmas
@Isaac13 Abraham aint kabaa also used for pagan in pre islamic belief lmao also why is your heaven looks like porn... Sorry but your prophet is a warlord like JP said
@Jamal Ramadan He did but a certain mr.muhammad deceived many into his lies who we often find commenting on random RUclips vedios. The actual joke is they think their comments are smart and rational.
@Jamal Ramadan Jesus came not to destroy, but to save. He chooses to exercise his omniscience, but dont worry the same Jesus that appeared to Abraham and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is the same Jesus who says hes coming back to deal retribution to them that know not God
Great interview. Im a Christian and I get sick of people quoting Bart at me because if you know the background of the new testament and listen Bart contextually he really doesnt provide that much of a challenge to anything I believe.
That is even more for orthodox Christians. Bart himself saed that he is from fundamentalist background so that explain a lot in his personal “crusade”against Christianity.
@@Alisalah_24 yeah because Christians believe in 1 God, if you're a muslim you're not able to comprehend that but it is just one God. God is a Trinity 1 being but 3 persons that have loved eachother for all eternity
@@Psa22-6 the concept of God being many persons is so simple to understand people just deny it. If you ask someone a question, if God wanted to be a talking elephant for a day, would that talking elephant be God? The answer is yes. God could take many forms, it doesn’t change the fact that his form of being Jesus and the Holy Spirit is God. God is a very personal being we can see so just how universe is created. God is a personality that wants to be with us and show love and receive love in return
@@jakob6696 Thats modalism and not even close to what the trinity is, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit have all existed eternally, not one God shifting around, Each one has always been divine always loving one another from eternity past.
@@shaktech If historical Jesus doesn't align with the Qur'an , then how can the Qur'an be the inerrant revelation of God? Also , Bart is NOT saying these to satisfy AP. Watch AP's previous video on Bart's discussion with Mohammad Hijab 😂
I disagree with the view that Jesus did not expect to be crucified. The 'Prof' said earlier that the first 3 Gospels especially were very reliable. If this is so, then Jesus knew He would be crucified. He mentioned it to His disciples before His arrest that led to His crucifixion.
Thank you AP to invite Prof. Bart Ehrman who end up confirming the Muslim’s visions of that story of Jesus PBUH. Ladies and gentlemen please listen to AP video Islam vs. Christianity on Jesus | Dr. Bart Ehrman Speaks to Apostate Prophet Ha ..ha .....Poor AP was trying hard to put words in Bart's mouth .. to hurt Islam ... but all fired back on him ...poor guy. In min 4:00 Bart end up to confirm the Quran is better book than Gospels In min 18 &26 Jesus was prophet In min 19:00 Bart removed the divinity of Jesus just because called people called him Son of God . In min 25 Bart confirms the diversity of early Christianity and conflicts people went through to come up with the Christian doctoring.
@@entertaininformmedia7836 Just go the mins above you will see it very clearly. Also Bart said that Jesus never tough that he gona be killed not sure what min , but it is there. Poor AP was almost crying during the interview.... i do not blame him .
The Old Testament and the epistles are enough to point me in the direction of Jesus as the Messiah and affirm the Christian view of what the Messiah would and will accomplish. The Gospels are a beautiful portrait of the Lord ,what he did, and his teachings. I’m glad we have them.
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@Isaac13 Abraham Just as it is much more hilarious when you muslims and your arab prophet claim to know Christ better than jews & christians themselves.
@Isaac13 Abraham People like you rejected your own 2nd temple period Biblical Judaism of which Christianity is a continuation of in the 2nd century AD and Rabbinic Judaism and Islam are kissing cousins of counterfeit interpretations of the Hebrew Bible that gave (The Two Powers of Heaven by Alan Segal ) theology that Jesus and the Apostles including Paul taught. Dr.Michael S.Heiser videos explains this Jewish theology.
@Isaac13 Abraham The letter to the Hebrews might contradict your assumption. The writings of the 4 Gospels were dates to at the latest 85 years after Christ. The writings of the next most textually supported ancient writing after the Bible was Homer’s Iliad. Many thousands of Christian scripture copies from within the first 100 years, with mainly “spelling” errors as Dr BE said in video. The Iliad had a little over 600 copies, but written centuries later. You’re right Hebrew scriptures were very accurately transcribed. Christians have never argued against that.
@Isaac13 Abraham the first Christians were Jews it’s not as if gentiles came upon it and reinterpreted it. Many Christians learn Hebrew for the sole reason of understanding scripture better. It’s somewhat ridiculous that you think only Jews can understand the scripture. Which verses are claiming have been changed?
7:16, Jesus was a practising Jew who at the age of 12 would need to go to the synagogue and read / recite Scripture from the scrolls, how could he be illiterate? Jewish tradition has such an emphasis on the written word and scriptures.
@@battlerushiromiya651 yes, but reading the Tanakh was a big part of Jewish culture. It was more common that children would be taught by their parents also. It definitely would have been mentioned by many people were he illiterate, but based on zero evidence the interviewee came to a weird conclusion.
@@katebee945 well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@battlerushiromiya651 . It seems that you are one of those who follow Bart Ehrman blindly. We Christians do not need Bart Ehrman to give us wrong information about our Lord Jesus Christ when we have reliable eye witnesses' account in the gospel and preceding prophecies in the old testament. It's atheists and muslims that need him.It is stupidity for any sensible person to leave eyewitnesses' account and start following a man who was born few years ago but ended studying to misinform people for reasons best known to him. You can be gullible to whatever Bart Ehrman says but he can't say some of these things in midst of sincere Bible scholars and Christians who know their Bible. If someone tells you that Jesus Christ the miracle worker could not read, should you believe in the first case? A smart person will not believe that but look for evidences for that but unfortunately, Bart Ehrman is A FAKE SCHOLAR and I will show you in my next post evidences that Jesus Christ was literate( it's miraculous) but because Bart Ehrman is an agnostic, he deliberately distorts the Bible. I feel worried when atheists and muslims go after this guy for information on the Bible when the account in the gospel are those of eye witnesses.
Bart Ehrman: Disciples never said Jesus pre-existed. Apostle Peter: "He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you." (1 Peter 1:20)
@@streetsdisciple0014 Maybe you, someone born 2000 years later could tell that to persecuted fathers of old who were alive with the apostle Peter in the 1st century.
He didn’t know if he could read he read in the book of Isaiah and when correcting the Pharisees he would tell them didn’t you read in the scriptures.This doctor needs a doctor
well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@AntiChrxzt "Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families" You know, being among top 10% is not so awesome. Presumably nowadays ability to write a few lines of code in any script or programming language would be a more arcane knowledge. "The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as" Gifted kid that needed to be given a single chance? I find your faith in formal education disturbing... :D :D :D
When he said that Jesus couldn't read, that seems to contradict his comprehensive understanding of rabbinical teachings and the fact that he was called Rabbi by others. Despite this being the case, it is clear that Jesus did not write the gospels himself.
I also wonder how many Jews were able to read and write. They are commanded to wear the commandments and write them at the door. That could imply that they at least were able to read to some extent. Also, he frequented synagogues and read out loud the Bible, which means that he was likely very literate, and probably in up to four languages Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin
****////Why Muslims say Jesus is a Prophet of Allah !! ⚠️Even though Jesus is named after another god! ⚠️ /////*** So Yehoshua (Jesus) is supposed to be a prophet of Allah according to Islam ??? How does it work if Allah is not YHWH! In addition, it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam to testify to YHWH as the 1 True God! But Yehoshua means "YHWH SAVES”” So Jesus is definitely not the prophet of Allah! Because he only confirm YHWH! The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ***************are all prophets according to the Quran******************
@@Hannestv4607 funny enough, The Koran never mentions God’s name, a proof that it was written by people who were not familiar with the Bible and its prophets.
@@samajiboye4871 kind of funny that Christians would debate or discuss about if Jesus is GOD or something, but forget that they are on Atheists' channel. 😆
@@umarmujaahid1136 So, what’s the problem with that? In this comment section I see Hindus, Muslims, Christians and Atheists debating. By your logic, Muslims couldn’t be debating in the comment section of David Wood. Seriously, the more I read the arguments of Muslims, the more I stop taking you seriously.
I find it interesting that he really believes Jesus couldn't read even though Jesus quoted Old Testament multiple times per the historical witness testimony. Matthew was extremely literate, it was his job to be. Also....the "I AM" statements He made that led Him to be executed...there are way too many holes but I still appreciate his effort
****////Why Muslims say Jesus is a Prophet of Allah !! ⚠️Even though Jesus is named after another god! ⚠️ /////*** So Yehoshua (Jesus) is supposed to be a prophet of Allah according to Islam ??? How does it work if Allah is not YHWH! In addition, it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam to testify to YHWH as the 1 True God! But Yehoshua means "YHWH SAVES”” So Jesus is definitely not the prophet of Allah! Because he only confirm YHWH! The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ***************are all prophets according to the Quran******************
So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to "read" Luke 4:16
I thought this exact same thing. He refutes himself because he says that the first three gospels are very reliable and then within those first three gospels we have plenty of passages where Jesus was reading 😂
bahrt ehrman litterally dissprooved christianity in this interview completly bahrt ehrman litterally stated that the diciples of jesus and the earliest christians were much more closer to an islamic narrative about jesus then what u have today
@@darthkothicame7822 the quran is one hundred procent preserved infact even bahrt ehrman said that the manuscripts of the quran were much more faithfully copied than the new testament
honestly, i may not like him but his laugh is literally funny, AP uploaded another video about Bart and his laugh is so funny, ill link it to u🤣 edit: here's the link ruclips.net/video/JozODvCuvdo/видео.html enjoy 🤪
The Quran has NOT been “faithfully copied” at all, and it was edited and changed all the way until it was standardized in 1924! The Quran is NOT superior in any way to any religious text, let alone the Bible. The Topkapi and Samarkand Qurans who have THOUSANDS of differences from the current 1924 version are two of many examples that prove this.
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Remember there was a time when the "experts" did not think Nazareth existed until they found it and also most evidence is coming out that more people could read and write
Also, the very existence of a historical Jesus was heavily contested not too many years ago, while today is a pretty established fact among scholars. Our understanding changes over time, but any new finding just confirms the reliability of the Biblical narrative.
@Jamal Ramadan no. I don't trust "experts". I remember when Elon Musk was struggling with SpaceX and the so called "experts" say specex was going to free fall alongside Tesla. Today we know where SpaceX is.
With regard to the implication that Jesus never went to school, astoundingly, just because Nazareth was a tiny village: Jesus was not a prisoner of Nazareth. There were other larger villages nearby, and the capital - Sepphoris - was only 3.7 miles away. He regularly taught in synagogues - would an illiterate man be invited to teach / speak in a synagogue if he could neither read nor write, and therefore knew nothing about the Torah?
Also a common misconception is that Jesus was a poor person because he was a carpenter, when being a carpenter in those times was a lucrative business and he probably had access to a decent education, at least enough to learn how to read and write.
Apostles call Jesus “Rabbi” - “teacher”. Metzger, Bart’s teacher, in his books claim, that Jesus most likely was educated, which in that times meant be educated in scriptures - Tanakh.
****////Why Muslims say Jesus is a Prophet of Allah !! ⚠️Even though Jesus is named after another god! ⚠️ /////*** So Yehoshua (Jesus) is supposed to be a prophet of Allah according to Islam ??? How does it work if Allah is not YHWH! In addition, it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam to testify to YHWH as the 1 True God! But Yehoshua means "YHWH SAVES”” So Jesus is definitely not the prophet of Allah! Because he only confirm YHWH! The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ***************are all prophets according to the Quran******************
Your forgetting its an interview, not a debate, so why would mohammed hijab have disappointment in simply an interview on his thought process and beliefs. As a muslim i do quote him ill admit, but i also quote peter j williams whose also a christian to be fair during debates i have. There is no disappointment, we are all just seeking the truth, we don’t care about the ego boost of being right or wrong, we simply want the truth and to go to heaven, and avoid hell at all costs. Thats all. You make it a personal issue more than an ideological/theological issue. Stop pointing fingers and seek truth yourself, don’t wanna see anyone going to hell for a lack of common sense. Im not forcing you or anything to convert, im simply saying go do research with no bias, listen to multiple scholars of each religion and belief to build up a proper consensus. At the end of the day, your the one in charge of your fate, no one else.
It's a funny thing that as a Christian I really don't mind the fact that there are differences in the gospels giving varying accounts. The fundamental story is the tread that runs through it, one of Gods mercy, love and grace. I do think though that every scene captured and written down in the bible is meant to be there, every word is valuable and to be discussed, read through and eventually for each person to have an individual revelation of Jesus. It is a supernatural book.
@@tetrasiklinaminoglikozit9605 Problem is history has shown rulers will get rid of religions. Can't be a complete dictator without get rid of what can go against the dictator's words.
Mr. Ehrman is incorrect in saying that the Quran has been accurately copied. There are no ancient qurans that agree with the Hafs quran, and there still exist today multiple variations of the quran.
Bart doesn't know if Jesus could read SMH Jesus wrote in the sand with his finger and when he had finished all those accusing the woman had walked away.
That passage is almost universally considered to be a later addition to the gospels. However, the passage in Luke where Jesus reads from the scroll of Isaiah is definitely original to that gospel, and tells us that Jesus was able to read Hebrew (though it doesn't tell us about his literacy in Greek or Aramaic).
@@stephengray1344 Koine Greek was the common language for commerce in that region and it was the language Roman officials used besides Latin, so while we can't say it for certain, most probably Jesus also understood Greek, since he has encounters with non Hebrew population in the Gospel accounts.
There is a lot Bart doesn't know or is uncertain of, but the issue is he often tries to cloud his uncertainty in an arguably dishonest way. Notice how he conjectures about timelines, as an example - "20, 30, 40 or 50 years *nervous laugh*". He's made a lucrative career by speculating on something, that when pushed, he will admit that he doesn't actually know and can't be certain of. He knows which side of his bread has the butter on it.
Well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
Erhaman is an atheists. He turned away from Christianity because he could not reconcile the suffering in the world with the existence of a loving g God. It is not clear why he says that Jesus' followers did not regard him as God. In his time, the apostles heard God declare him as son of God and Thomas and Peter regarded and confessed him as God.
@@luke2346luke That's a really weak argument, and Bart knows it. The passage in question is from Luke, which Bart believes does contain historical information. He's basing his claim that Jesus was illiterate on the fact that Nazareth was a very small settlement and the fact that most people at the time couldn't read and write.
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue Luke 4:14-22 Esv Jesus Begins His Ministry 14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me, because he has anointed me to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor. (AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind, (AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
Dr. Bart Ehrman seems to have forgotten that in the gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Jesus predicted His resurrection as much as He did His crucifixion which has been confirmed.
@@MrJole777 Isaiah 46:11 New International Version 11 From the east I summon(A) a bird of prey;(B) from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose. Are your high or just made an error.
@@ayanrushd4800 No he didn't. He may have expected this, but there is no indication of him stating this would happen in his lifetime, at all. In fact most of the early Christians were anticipating this in their lifetimes, but both Paul and Jesus stated that the return of Christ will only happen in certain conditions....and these conditions have not yet been met! re: "Either he was just hallucinating or was just a lair." >> Neither is the case.
I would put a hard stop to the writing of all the gospels at 70 AD. the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem is such a big event to be missed by any writer of the gospel but all the writers of the new testament seem to be unaware of this big event. If Jesus died in this 30s then gospels at most have to be written 40 years after Jesus. Bart assertions cannot be reasonable supported
Exactly! None of the gospels refer to the Temple destruction. This means they had to be written before. Also Jesus could read. So could a Matthew ( tax collector).
Its good to hear, because I used to say the exact argument. - the destruction of the temple was like the holocaust of the time, it is impossible to not to be mentioned - moreover Jesus is prophesizing about it several times, so it would make sense that the writers had made it clear, by pointing to the historical event, it would be a necessity almost
@@nemgyuri such an event would be too tempting to ignore, however, all the writers seem completely obvious to this event. Are not you exaggerating a bit about the destruction of the temple you said Jesus prophesy about "several times" it is only mentioned in Mark ( ch 13) and only in one verse with the wider context of the last days? The way the disciples behave was like if they did not really believe Jesus. I would hardly call it several times. such was such a dramatic event it not only destroyed the temple but emptied Jerusalem of all Jews and destroyed many places
@@midnightwatchman1 I was strengthening your point, I dont see why you see it contradicting, Jesus said He will destroy the temple and rebuild it, He prophesized about the temple in the olivet discourse as well. These statements would have been linked to the destruction of the temple, if the gospels were written after it.
this INTERVIEW litterally prooved that according to bahrt ehrman that the diciples of jesus were much closer to an islamic narrative than what u have today that was evolving for over 700 years
You mean his disciples, who believed that he was the Son of God or "somehow divine" and who believed that he is the last to come, were closer to the Islamic narrative?
@@ApostateProphet He said son of God did not mean his divine and his disciples beieleved in one God confirming Islam. Go watch your own video. My God this guy is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@ApostateProphet You mean his disciples, who believed that he was the Son of God or "somehow divine" and who believed that he is the last to come, were closer to the Islamic narrative THATS NOT WHAT BAHRT EHRMAN SAID HE SAID THE DICIPLES OF JESUS BELIVED HE WAS A HUMAN AND WORSHIPPED GOD ALONE AND THAT PROOVES THAT THE QURANIC CLAIM IS VALID AND HE ALSO WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE TERM SON OF GOD WAS UNDERSTOOD DIFFRENTLY UNLIKE TODAYS CHRISTIANS AND HE USED THE HEBREW OLD TESTAMENT TO PROOVE THAT BECAUSE THE JEWS CALL RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE AND ANGELS THE SON OF GOD
As a Muslim, i would like to thank AP for showing me how Bart Erhman affirms certain fundamental beliefs in Islam to be more historical about Jesus, than what is believed in mainstream Christianity today. I can't believe your war of showing BE disagrees with Islam is by asking him if he accepts certain aspects of Islamic theology - even though he's an atheist. (Was Jesus Muslim; did he prophecy Muhammad; did he bring a scripture?)...childish stuff. Muslims don't literally expect this. 1. Firstly, Islam does NOT teach that the Gospel is a book or scripture. It teaches that the Gospel was a revelation. There are two mentioned together in the Quran about revelation - the Book and the Wisdom. Concerning Jesus, the Quran says (3:48): "And He will teach him the Book and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel". The Book is the Torah, and the Gospel is the wisdom associated with the understanding of the Book. In a parallel manner, we see the same thing with regard to the prophet Muhammad in Quran (2:129): "Our Lord, and send among them a messenger from themselves who will recite to them Your verses and teach them the Book and wisdom and purify them. Indeed, You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise." and Quran (62:2): "It is He who has sent among the unlettered a Messenger from themselves reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and wisdom - although they were before in clear error". The Book mentioned here is the Quran; it is the verbatim word of God inscribed as a book. And the Wisdom is that which the prophet was inspired with and verbally taught which explains the Quran - as is found the Sunnah (Hadiths). Ibn Kathir states of Q 2:129: "(and Al-Hikmah) meaning, the Sunnah, as Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Muqatil bin Hayyan and Abu Malik asserted. It was also said that `Al-Hikmah', means `comprehension in the religion',". That's why both the Gospel teachings and the Sunnah were passed down in a similar way through oral tradition and then written down; so prophetic wisdom is the more parallel revelation to the Gospel. And the Gospels obviously show the he wasn't carrying a book, but preaching the Gospel (Mark 4:23). 2. Muslims have the same beliefs as the earliest followers; of course they wouldn’t have all Islamic beliefs because some beliefs are only mentioned in the Quran (so much for your silly “Muslim” question). As Erhman says; they believed he was human; didn't use ''son of God' in a divine sense; believed he was a prophet, a teacher inspired by God, and The Messiah. This is exactly what Muslims believe, not that he's divine, that he came to die for sins and was resurrected to prove it as Christians do today. 3. Paul joins the early followers lead by James 7 years after this event and teaches different teachings. Professor James D Tabor of Ancient Judaism and Early Christianity notes this, and says that basic Islamic belief seems to be in line with what early community and James believed; hence why this savior & grace narrative is not found the Book of James; James as a figure is more authoritative than Paul on Jesus and even appears to be arguing against his claim of being saved by faith alone. He writes in his book, The Jesus Dynasty, page 315-316, that Islamic teachings “is precisely what we find emphasized in the Book of James. Like Islam, the book of James, and the teaching of Jesus in Q, emphasize doing the will of God as a demonstration of one's faith. [….] there is little about the view of Jesus presented in this book (The Jesus Dynasty) that conflicts with Islam’s basic perception”. Bearing in mind after Paul’s conversion, he left this group to preach his own Gospel around Asia Minor for a whole 10 years, then returned back to James and Peter. 4. The crucifixion goes in line with the Quran + the early disciples’ belief in it. The Quran states that it was made to ‘appear’ as so; whether it was someone else is a different question. So the fact history documents Jesus as being crucified is not a contradiction. 5. Erhman did NOT say the NT is “mostly authentic” - he said it is the oldest most reliable material, but contains both truth and falsehood which needs to deciphered which is also what Muslims believe. Paul influences the rest of the Gospels; his letters are written by him and his followers and the Gospels are written by followers afterwards, but by drawing on the existing oral traditions about Jesus which also contain historical information as did other Gospel writers. The Gospels were canonized by authorities in confirmation of their Pauline beliefs - not based on historiography - and the others burned and gotten rid of. This attitude continues over Christian history, and Martin Luther reading the Book of James, notices the differences and wishes to literally remove it from the Bible as non-canonical because of its lack of conformity, despite it being material attributed to the leader of the early followers - James ! 6. Paul emphasized that Jesus had died on the cross to atone for sins and was resurrected on the third day; a theology traceable back to Mithraism by the way. He mentions this resurrection as being spiritual 1 Corinthians 44-46; 2 Corinthians 5:16; also in 1 Peter 3:18 - but what is striking is that tradition mentioned in the Gospel of Luke 24:37-41 that Jesus returned after the crucifixion to his followers as a physical body - and not as a spirit - and eats fish to demonstrate this. This is contrary to Paul’s resurrection claim, and to interestingly shows a plausibility of Jesus demonstrating that he didn’t die on the cross and wasn’t in resurrected form. 7. The remnant beliefs of James’ following can be found in the early Jewish Christians also called Ebionites, can be preserved in Islamic teachings to have most correct basic facts about him. Other than the crucifixion (a miracle unbeknownst to anyone besides Jesus himself), it is Paul’s attachment of a significance to this via his Hellenistic background that prevails and shapes Christianity. Is it a coincidence that Islam resonates with an earlier more authoritative figure? Maybe next time you can ask him on the relationship between Paul & James in relation to history, that should be interesting!
Allah is a father to no one. It does not matter in what sense you use son of God. Allah is not a father in any sense. As a Muslim can you say Isa is the son of Allah?
The ebonites did not believe Jesus was born of a virgin. As a Muslim can you say Isa was not born of a virgin? They have many other believe that contradict Islam.
Jesus is God, Bible is God breathed. Jesus fulfilled all prophecies regarding His first coming and will surely fulfill all the prophecies for His second coming. We walk by faith, not by sight. Believe in Lord Jesus and be forgiven from sins and receive eternal life.
@Jamal Ramadan If you Believe the universe and life was made by nothing and not a creator your the one who puts faith over evidence, Me testing the evidence is a reason I believe
@Jamal Ramadan they can. But the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is Jesus Christ who came to this earth to die to give forgiveness of sins and to raise from the dead to give those who believe in Him hope of resurrection and eternal life.
26:31 bert erhman said jesus wasn't know he will be crucified = Wrong. Isaiah wrote prophecies about the suffering of Jesus, also Jesus was came as a king riding a donkey, but he was rejected and was killed by the will of most jewish
@UCgs6DewwMz8YOLjmloTsR4Q actually His Hebrew name is Yeshua meaning "My (the LORD'S) salvation" and whenever the LORD's salvation is mentioned in scripture we see the Hebrew word - Yeshua or equivalent. So yeah, one can argue that the name Jesus (the Greek equivalent) is mentioned in the Old Testament.
More Dore Do you even bother to read how Judaism views Isaiah prophesies? The fact you are sure that it is about Jesus is comparable to the fact Muslims claiming Isaiah mentions Muhammad.
@@hyawill8944 give me one person name who already fullfiled isaiah prophecies in isaiah 53. FYI, isaiah 53 are the most avoided chapter by jewish religious leader, because the story in there telling about Jesus Christ, my God, crucifixion and suffering. Many people doubt Jesus Christ without even trying to reach Him through pray with faith
@@moredore5876 I won't give you one person. Because it doesn't have to be about one person. According to Jewish traditions it speaks about the nation, the Israel.
Lord Jesus is constantly saying the Son of man has to suffer and die and be raised on the third day and Bart is saying that Lord Jesus did not expect to be crucified? 🤣🤣🤣
yes thats what i was gong to say .. I wonder if Bart Ehrman is simply trolling everyone while some people take him really really seriously lol its hilarious
The N.T. GOSPELS - Evidence of Author's & Dates Written ▪︎Matthew - A tax collector who became Jesus' apostle and wrote about the life of Jesus as the Messiah for the Jewish community c. 70 AD. ▪︎Mark - A Jew, and a companion of Peter and Paul, who wrote for both Jews and Gentiles about Christ's death and resurrection c. 65 AD. ▪︎Luke - A Gentile doctor, and a companion of Peter and Paul who wrote for the Gentiles about Christ the saviour for humankind. ▪︎Luke - also wrote the Acts of the Apostles c. 65 AD. ▪︎John - The 'beloved' apostle of Jesus, wrote in his later years about the Word who took on Flesh (John 1:1,14) c. 80-90 AD. ▪︎John - also wrote 3 Letters and The Book of Revelations c. 80-90 AD. ▪︎James - Jesus' half brother, wrote 1 letter c. 35 AD. ▪︎Paul - wrote 13 letters c.50 - 67 AD. ▪︎Jude - wrote 1 letter c. 65 AD. ▪︎Peter - wrote 2 letters c. 67 AD. ▪︎The author of The Letter to Hebrews is unknown c. 65 AD. (Wikipedia) ▪︎Jesus Christ's' ministry occurred between 27-30 A.D. ▪︎Christianity began after the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ when thousands of Jews became followers of 'The Way' (Jesus). ▪︎The New Testament scholar, F.F. Bruce, gives strong historical evidence that the New Testament was completed by A.D. 100. ▪︎Most writings of the New Testament were completed twenty to forty years before 100 AD. (Wikipedia). ▪︎The apostles and their companions wrote the New Testament from their first-hand experiences with Jesus. New Testament integrity is supported by historians, biblical and textual scholars, along with thousands of early codices, manuscripts and the Dead Sea Scrolls, proving the validity and preservation of the Gospels written between c. 35-90 A.D (Eusebius, Church History 111. 39 .15; Irenaeus Against Heresies, 111.1) INTERNAL Evidence: ▪︎The internal evidence supports these early dates for several reasons. The first three Gospels prophesied the fall of the Jerusalem Temple which occurred in A.D. 70. However, the fulfillment is not mentioned. It is strange that these three Gospels predict this major event but do not record it happening. Why do they not mention such an important prophetic milestone? The most plausible explanation is that it had not yet occurred at the time Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written. ▪︎In the book of Acts, the Temple plays a central role in the nation of Israel. Luke writes as if the Temple is an important part of Jewish life. He also ends Acts on a strange note: Paul living under house arrest. It is strange that Luke does not record the death of his two chief characters, Peter and Paul. The most plausible reason for this is that Luke finished writing Acts before Peter and Paul's martyrdom in A.D. 64. A significant point to highlight is that the Gospel of Luke precedes Acts, further supporting the traditional dating of A.D. 60. Most scholars agree Mark precedes Luke, making Mark's Gospel even earlier. ▪︎Finally, the majority of New Testament scholars believe that Paul's epistles are written from A.D. 48-60. Paul's outline of the life of Jesus matches that of the Gospels. 1 Corinthians is one of the least disputed books regarding its dating and Pauline authorship. In 1Corinthians chapter 15, Paul summarizes the gospel and reinforces the premise that this is the same gospel preached by the apostles. Paul quotes from Luke's Gospel in 1 Timothy 5:18, showing us that Luke's Gospel was indeed completed in Paul's lifetime. This would move the time of the completion of Luke's Gospel along with Mark and Matthew. This Internal Evidence presents a strong case for the early dating of the Gospels. EXTERNAL Evidence - Gospel Dates: ▪︎Were the Gospels written by eyewitnesses of the events, or were they not recorded until centuries later? As with the internal evidence, the external evidence also supports a first century date. ▪︎Fortunately, New Testament scholars have an enormous amount of ancient manuscript evidence. The documentary evidence for the New Testament far surpasses any other work of its time, with over 5000 manuscripts, and many are dated within a few years of their authors' lives. KEY documents: ▪︎Chester Beatty Papyri contains most of the N.T. writings, and is dated around A.D. 250. ▪︎The Bodmer Papyri contains most of John, and dates to A.D. 200. ▪︎Rylands Papyri that was found in Egypt and contains large fragments of John, and dates to A.D. 130. From this fragment we can conclude that John was completed well before A.D. 130 because, not only did the gospel have to be written, it had to be hand copied and make its way down from Greece to Egypt. The majority of scholars agree that John is the last gospel written, so we can affirm its first century date along with the other three with greater assurance. EARLY New Testament Papyrus Manuscripts: ▪︎Dead Sea Scrolls, the Full Text of Isaiah 53, c 250 BC. ▪︎Old Testament Greek Septuagint 200 BC. ▪︎P52 (John Rylands Fragment) - John 18:31-33; 37-38 c. 96 AD ▪︎P90 (Oxyrhynchus) - John 18:36; 19:7 c. 96 AD ▪︎ P104 (Oxyrhynchus) - Matthew 21:34-37, 43, 45 c. 60-65 AD ▪︎P46 (Chester Beatty Papyrus) - Romans 5:17-6; 5-14; 8:15-25; 27-35; 10:1-11, 22, 24-33, 35; 16:1-23; 25-27. Hebrews; 1 & 2; Corinthians; Ephesians; Galatians; Philippians; Colossians; 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 9-10; 2:1-3; 5:5-9, 23-28 c. 50’s-70’s AD ▪︎P98 (IFAO) - Revelation 1:13; 2:1 c. 90 AD ▪︎P66 (Bodmer Papyrus) - John 1:1-6,11; 6:35; 14:26; fragment of 14:29; 21:9 c. 70’s AD ▪︎P67 Matthew 3:9, 15; 5:20-22; 25-28 c. 60-65 AD ▪︎Evidence also comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls Cave 7. Jose Callahan discovered a large fragment of the Gospel of Mark and dated it to have been written in A.D. 50. Also large fragments of Acts and other epistles and dated them to have been written slightly after A.D. 50.4 Another line of evidence is the writings of the church fathers. ▪︎CLEMENT of Rome sent a letter to the Corinthian church in A.D. 95. in which he quoted from the Gospels and other portions of the N.T. ▪︎IGNATIUS, Bishop of Antioch, wrote a letter before his martyrdom in Rome in A.D. 115, quoting all the Gospels and other N.T. letters. ▪︎POLYCARP wrote to the Philippians in A.D. 120 and quoted from the Gospels and N.T. letters. ▪︎JUSTIN MARTYR, A.D. 150 quotes John 3. Church fathers of the early second century were familiar with the apostle's writings and quoted them as inspired Scripture. ▪︎Early dating is important for two reasons. The closer a historical record is to the date of the event, the more likely the record is accurate. Early dating allows for eyewitnesses to still be alive when the Gospels were circulating to attest to their accuracy. The apostles often appeal to the witness of the hostile crowd, pointing to their knowledge of the facts as well (Acts 2:22, 26:26). Also, the time is too short for legends to develop. Historians agree it takes about two generations, or eighty years, for legendary accounts to establish themselves. From the evidence, we can conclude the Gospels were indeed written by the authors they are attributed to. THE First Fully Bound Bible Books/Codices ▪︎Codex Vaticanus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 280 - 330 AD ▪︎Codex Siniaticus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 300 - 350 AD ▪︎Codex Alexandrius: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 350 - 400 AD ▪︎Codex Vulgate: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 380 - 400 AD JESUS and the Jews were multilingual ▪︎"Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: 'JESUS Of NAZARETH, THE KING Of THE JEWS'. Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek" (John 19:19-20) ▪︎The Gospels were written in Koine Greek being the World's language in the 1st century The Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (Septuagint) c.200 BC for the many Greek speaking Jews It is well known that first-century Jerusalem was inhabited by Greek speaking Jews who were at least bilingual. And Jesus most likely was trilingual apart from the ability to read minds. So the original Gospels were written in Koine Greek and sent throughout the World.. ▪︎Jewish culture was heavily influenced by Hellenistic culture, and Koine Greek was used not only for international communication but also as the first language of many Jews. This development was furthered by the fact that the largest Jewish community in the world lived in Ptolemaic Alexandria. (Wikipedia) GOD Protects His Word: ▪︎"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!" (Galatians 1:8-9) ▪︎Jesus said, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away" (Matt 24:35) ▪︎God protects His Word the Gospels and warns of antichrists.. ▪︎The Gospels are evidenced by internal and external historical, archeological & literary facts ▪︎The Gospels are unchanged and preserved over 2000 years and across all continents ▪︎The Gospels are reliable and transparent with any variations referenced in footnotes ▪︎The Gospels have 1000 times more manuscripts than the most documented ancient literature by Greco-Roman historian, Suetonius. ▪︎The Bible translations do have errors, Christians don't claim otherwise. But Less than 1% of manuscript errors are meaningful and don’t affect the major teachings of the Christian faith. Amen.. God Bless You..
@Mansoor Ahmad Did you hear him say that the story in the Quran about Jesus giving life to the birds is from gnostic apocryphal literature and that Jesus was crucified? Dr. Ehrman doesn't agree with Christianity or Islam, and I like him regardless of what he believes. I don't understand how you can watch this interview and conclude Dr. Ehrman's views support Islam. That would be like me saying he supports Christianity. It's just false.
@@__.Sara.__ What I noticed from you and other Christians is that they love and admire every belief (atheist, Buddhist, Jew, Hindu, Taoist, etc.) as long as it attacks Islam.
@@alrass100 Not true. Liking a person, like Dr. Ehrman, is different than admiring a belief system. I think Christianity is true, and I don't admire what I believe to be false. All religions contradict, so they can't all be true at once. They could all be false, but not all true.
@@__.Sara.__ There are only two religions are worthy of the search. One is right and the other is wrong. They are Islam and Christianity. That is why Christian scholars avoid debating with Muslim scholars regarding the most important beliefs (theology, the validity of the Bible and the Qur’an and the validity of the prophethood of Muhammad). Therefore, Christians go to raise suspicions and doubts against Islam in an attempt to show Islam that it is a false religion. So that Christianity is right
I used to be an atheist, however the Power of the Holy Spirit touched me few years back without and preaching from anyone. I used to recall believing anything an expert atheist would say without doing the research myself, or believing random youtubers who debunk the reality of Jesus Christ by misreperestig, wether they do it intentionally or not. I pray for the conversion of the atheists of the world. By that way, I am not saying that someone who believes in Jesus is better than anyone else (I met some "interesting" Christians myself) however what I am saying is that once you walk the path of Light you can't go back to darkness. God bless you all.
@@WintersunExtras a miracle (physical) occurred in the name of Christ in my life, didn't just occur to me but also various family members and friends, long story.
@@SF-ow5ru It's alright, I don't expect you to explain the whole story. The part that would interest me is the part where Christianity is reliably demonstrated to be true. I'm highly skeptical of religious people who claim to be a former Atheists, they unfailingly show that their previous Atheism did not have a skeptical basis, and if it had then they wouldn't have become Christians. So I'd like to see if you're an exception to this.
A more honest and factual summary of what Bart Erhman said: 1. Bart Erhman agrees that the Quran is perfectly preserved and that the bible has thousands of differences. Some of which can affect the understanding of a passage, book or of the entire New Testament. Bart believes that a book being perfectly preserved doesn’t prove that it is true, but this is what you would expect an atheist to say. Or else he would already have converted to islam. Conclusion: The Quran is perfectly preserved and the bible isn’t just like what islam teaches. 2. As Bart Ehrman said in that time the majority of the people couldn’t read or write and were a oral people, so Jesus (pbuh) would have conveyed his teachings/book orally. This is similar to the Quran to a certain extent. The Quran was already written in the time of the prophet, but was not yet compiled in to a single book. This happened 1-2 years after the death of the prophet. 3. Barth Erhman says that there is some (possible) accurate parts in the bible but there are also many made up stories in the bible and that’s exactly what islam teaches. 4. Ofcourse Bart Erhman would reject those stories because he is an atheist, he also rejects the virgin birth of Jesus pbuh which both Christians and muslims believe in. 5. Bart Erhman affirms that he is an atheist and says that jesus pbuh according to historical evidence was crucified and also says that there was a Christian teacher in the second century that taught that somebody else was crucified instead of Jesus pbuh. 6. Bart Ehrman says that there are some elemental truths in that historically and some things he would consider problems. Basically during the life time of Jesus pbuh he and his followers viewed Jesus pbuh as a human prophet and they only worshiped one God (no trinity) but after the (so called) resurrection people started worshipping Jesus pbuh as god not as the only true God, but as a lesser god. Bart Erhman also refutes John 1:1 and says that early Christians did not believe that Jesus pbuh was pre-existing as god. 7. Christians later corrupted the meaning of Son of God, what a surprise. In early Christianity Son of God referred to someone who was in a close relationship with God and through whom God mediated his will. In other words a prophet of God. The king of Israel was also called Son of God. 8. Bart Erhman says that there were some gospels that were written earlier than the 4 gospels, but they don’t exist anymore. 9. 6 of the 13 epistles written by Paul are now doubted by the scholars. These scholars believe that 6 of those epistles were written by unknown persons claiming to be Paul. Bart Erhman agrees with those scholars, which again proves how unreliable the bible is. 10. Islam teaches that there are some things in the bible that can be true and we muslims can accept, but we don’t rely on the bible. 11. Before the fourth century there were many different view of what was true Christianity there was also different gospels, this was rooted out by emperor Constantine when he became a Christian. He established Christianity as how we know it now. Around this time it was also decided which books to keep in the bible and which should be thrown out. Even after this there were still difference among Christians until this day. 12. According to Bart Erhman Jesus pbuh did not predict prophet Muhammed pbuh, but also according to Bart Erhman Jesus pbuh did not expect to be crucified which already refutes a lot of the teachings of Christianity. 13. Bart Erhman says that he is not equipped to give the details of Muhammed pbuh, So he can’t give an answer to it.
@Isaac13 Abraham It's important to note that Jesus knew He was going to suffer in Jerusalem and predicted His own death. (Matthew 16:21-23, Mark 8:31-32, and Luke 9:21-22, Matthew 17:22-23, Mark 9:30-32, and Luke 9:43-45, Matthew 20:17-19, Mark 10:32-34, and Luke 18:31-34) You have misinterpreted the words 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'. In fact, this statement from Jesus originated from his immense love for men and His realization that despite His suffering and sacrifice, that God's justice deprived Him of the salvation of the reprobate and the redemption of their souls. The same can be said with Jesus' statement 'I thirst'; as much as Jesus certainly had a physical thirst, He was referring to a 'thirst' for the salvation of souls. God never abandoned Jesus, as He manifested Himself through the stirring of all Creation (resuscitating the dead, thunder, earthquakes, splitting of the Temple veil, etc etc)
@@michelpapineau8868 When Jesus said: “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” He was referring to Psalm 22, which is a Messianic psalm in which the Messiah would be crushed, this comes true on the cross
Can you please ask Bart Ehrman if shooting stars are actually missiles sent by God to keep demons out of heaven? I have always wondered what the scholarly consensus is on this.
Ehrman lost me at these two absurd assertions; first: hundreds of thousands of differences in the New Testament and no, saying most are completely insignificant does help the hundreds of thousands claim which is simply not true. Second: The Koran has been faithfully copied for many many centuries. Then why are there so many versions? I wouldn't expect this guy to give me the correct time, let alone tell me what the best watch is.
Yet there is so much confusion with which version of the bible is true, how any books should be included in the entire bible etc. These are huge questions within Christiandom in the first 2-3 centuries
Yeah Bart shouldn’t be talking about the so-called preservation of the Koran at all cuz it’s evident that he’s just repeating Muslim lies, even though Islamic sources disprove this notion.
Loved this. Probably my favourite thing you have done so far. Great guest and your interview questions were fantastic! You covered so much in half an hour. Well done. 👍☺️
@@livinia296 how come bart ehrman clearly stated that Jesus Christ was crucified and also his disciples believed in his divinity after his resurrection.......how come it will destroy Christanity?
@@james-yf9wm Yes!! Someone was cruxified on the cross but it wasn't Jesus. Allah saved Jesus from cruxifiction and raised him up to the heavens. Qur'an 4:157-158 "It was made to appear to them so"
You do realise Bart just laid waste to Christianity and confirmed the basic understandings of Islam right? That at the time nobody thought of Jesus (peace be upon him) devine and just a Prophet? And confirmed the preservation of the Qur'an and corruption of the Bible? What exactly are you do "please" of from this? It's incredibly embarrassing!
@@Alisalah_24 Christians also believe in one God. When have Christians ever confessed to having 3 separate Gods? The Quran gives a false story of misinformation and exposes it's deities ignorance towards our faith. You're running off an incorrect assumption made by your God in his book. Btw, this gentleman isn't God - He's an apostate. And, Christians actually let him live to spread his opinions! Good thing he's not an apostate from Islam, if you know what I mean! Btw, he also believes with 100% certainty that Jesus Christ was crucified which Muslims (not the Quran) denies. The Quran actually affirms the crucifixion.
@@Alisalah_24 bart ehrman clearly stated that all the disciples of Jesus Christ believed in his resurrection and also they considered him as divine son of God......so it proved that Jesus Christ is not muslim.
Broooo!!!! its always night in India when you post videos...your majority fans are from here....it's really hard to use mobile at night in desi household 🥺🙂
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. Definitely JESUS could read and write
In John 8 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.(B) 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women.(C) Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap,(D) in order to have a basis for accusing him.(E) But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone(F) at her.”(G) 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 👉Verse 6 especially shows he can Write
LOL… The Quran says people of the time claimed Jesus was crucified… Can’t you see the holes in the tennis racket???! This all video is to troll naives who do not understand anything about the subject?
As a muslim, I have absolutely no problem with what this interview "exposes". Thanks AP, I will continue using Bart Ehrman as proof against Christianity :)
@@froggy8301 LOL right?! They think that “additions” to the text doesn’t make the text corrupted. I was crying of laughter. Best parts: “The Qur’an has been faithfully copied” “There are stories in the gospels that are most certainly made up.” “The earliest followers of Jesus thought he was a human and that he worshipped 1 God.” “Son of god is used for various beings, humans, representatives of God on earth.” “6 of Pauls writings are doubted by scholars.” “In the earliest centuries there’s a lot of diversity within Christianity.” “There were a lot of controversial views floating around in the first 2 centuries.” Pure GOLD They think we think that the Injil was a written book… poor AP, all of these refutations and solid knowledge from a practising ex-muslim and still no understanding about what muslims actually believe. Miskeen
@@axis2312 I was just noting down most of the above, Jzk brv you saved me time! lol What amazes me is how gullible these minions are taking this A Puss as some kind of an academic saviour loool. I love the bit where Bart Ernham says he's just not qualified enough to speak about Islam, loooooooooooool
@@froggy8301 He literally thinks this interview showed us something we didn’t know LOL! How can someone be so blind? I just feel sorry for him, all of this hate is a cry for help. I think he’s lost. The problem is I think he knows Islam in true. There isn’t anything that hasn’t been explained to him using logic. I heard him say once “if God knew I would be like this, then why would he condemn me to hellfire?” All the while knowing that he has the free will to change his mind and his ways. I hope he comes back to his senses, because this interview was an epic fail and all of his arguments have been addressed. Anyyyyway. Salam brother :)
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue Luke 4:14-22 Esv Jesus Begins His Ministry 14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me, because he has anointed me to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor. (AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind, (AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
Clicking on this video brought up an add for donating to Muslim causes...how ironic. I appreciate the content AP. I hope that you come to Christ one day.
Its funny how all the Abduls in the comment section are changing their tune now about Bart Erhman. " We never used Bart Erhman to prove Islam right, we just used him to show the Bible was corrupted. Even tho he said numerous times that the textual variants within the New Testament have zero affect on Christian doctrine. Its amazing how these Abduls mind work. They are completely delusional just like their prophet lol.
Wow! Not only does Joseph smith and Muhammad have so many things in common and it was so funny to hear that Mormons use him as well hahaha! Hey, thanks for sharing this info man. Really appreciate it AP
All what author of the Qur'an bring up to the people is made up/ apocryphal manmade stories with information from the New/ Old testament that circulated in his region, while remade in the oriental manner, missing the most important details, because the author of the Kur'ana simply did not know about them. Even the way of praying was borrowed from Zoroastrianism🤦🏼 Author (authors) of the Qur'an just appropriated all of that just to legitimate a new religion. Author of the Qur'an didn't even understand what the Gospel was lol, not even speaking about funniest and crazy Qur'an's understanding of trinity🤦🏼 Isa, Mary and Allah🗿🗿
Yep, both believed that should have multiple wives and sleep with children. What is it with these false prophets? almost as if they are afflicted with unclean spirits!
@@haljordan9607 hahahaha! Very true. My best friend was about to be a Muslim which is why I got interested to help him because even before looking into it, I knew it was all stolen from Jews, Christians and then found out what you mentioned in your comment once I actually did research. Muhammad basically just tried to make everyone around him comfortable with converting because Islam included pieces of Christian and Jewish and pagan practices, prophets and beliefs. Really glad he didn’t convert
19:20 in Philippines 2 Paul quotes from an early Christian hymn which says that Jesus preexisted as God but took on the form of a servant. To say the deity of Christ is something that formed over time is an assertion without any evidence.
@@livinia296 Sorry to pop your ignorant bubble, but Bart Erhman is just repeating what Biblical Scholars (most of whom are Christians) have long known, and which the vast majority of Christians (Catholic, Orthodox & liberal Protestants) accept with no problem at all. It's only wacky Protestant Fundamentalists who are threatened by it. In fact, Erhman's own loss of faith had nothing to do with his Biblical scholarship, but with his struggle dealing with the Problem of Evil.
Jesus was writing in a sand when Mary Magdalen was brought to him.At twelve he was teaching in a temple he called his father house.So Bart got facts wrong.
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue Luke 4:14-22 Esv Jesus Begins His Ministry 14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all. Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me, because he has anointed me to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor. (AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind, (AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
@@satellitekhan2300 We cannot know what Jesus really taught and believed because he didn't write anything. What Bart claims, and he may be right, is that the 4 canonical gospels may have been in a certain way distorted, based on the assumption that oral traditions have tendency to be somehow distorted and the 4 canonical christians gospels are based in oral traditions. But , this said, there's no clear proof on that issue. Moreover the quran has also some material collected from the apochryphal christian gospels and these are much less accurate than the 4 canonical gospels because they were written much later.
@@satellitekhan2300 Apochryphal christian books are not part of the Bible, are spurious texts rejected by mainstream christianity. The very idea that Jesus wasn't crucified is found in gnostic christian writings like those of Basilides and Valentinus; Bart made reference to that in this video. So, it is clear that the quran lacks of originality. So, I didn't said that the quran was copied from the bible. Actually it is more complex than that. And let me tell you that the quran cannot correct the Bible, cause his author doesn't really know the Bible, but just a few of its contents. And Muhammad had friends like Waraqa ibn Naufal, the christian elder, Salman the persian who teach him zoroastric contents and even Mary the coptic, his wife, by whom he had access to some apocryphal gospels. To say that the quran resembles the bible, because it came from God it is just a matter of belief that nobody can prove. It is like if you say that the bible is the word of God. It is purely subjective.
@@satellitekhan2300 You should laugh of your statements .Waraqa was a relative of Khadija as you said but Muhammed met him personally and talked to him in many occasions and likely was instructed by him. The aledged illiteracy of Muhammed is part of the muslim legend about him, and probably is not accurate. And even if he was illiterate he certainly had ears, eyes and intelect to understand what people say. Concerning Noah and the story of the flood it was borrowed from the Gilgamesh epics. So, both the Bible and the Quran were inspired by ancient legends. I have nothing to learn from you, because your cultural level is irrelevant to me. Fundamentalists like you use to be arrogant. I'm not here to be educated by you. If you have vocation to teach go and teach your fellow muslims and spare me to your arrogance. Talibans, Daesh and others call themselves true muslims, because they know they pratice fully Islam including slavery of women, amongst other inhuman and barbaric practices. I'm convinced the world would be a better place without Islam. If there are good people amongst muslims it is despite Islam and not because of Islam.
@@satellitekhan2300 as per your claim, he also confirmed that Jesus was crucified which you don't believe and contradict the fact that all Muslim's view is destroyed in matter of seconds. ☺️
@Mansoor Ahmad Bart confirms Jesus was crucified. you forgot to add that. He also said that the virgin birth was a legend, you forgot to add that. And then you lied that the letters of Paul are misinformation. At this point I doubt u can. actually listen to a conversation carefully. Saying people doubt the authorship of a document doesn't mean the information in it is false. Yet you didn't mention that there indisputable fact that Paul wrote some of this.
Wait so Ehrman being a scholar in Christianity believes that Jesus didn't believe he was God and his followers didn't believe he was God which is contrary to the dominant belief. But Ehrman doesn't find it surprising that a 7th century Arab believed that even though it was contrary to the dominant belief in 7th century Arabia? So a man in the middle of the desert in the 7th century with very little resources was right about something you as a scholar in the 21st century concluded to be true using all the resources available in the 21st century and you don't find that surprising?
You need to compare 1st century Christianity to 7th century Islam. Islam was initially a warrior cult, while Christianitys core message revolved around salvation.
@k. it’s not going to happen because it’s not politically correct to challenge Islam. Whenever you try to raise genuine issues, annoying leftists and Muslims will just scream “ISLAMOPHOBE” until you shut up.
@k. secularists aren’t going to force anything though. It has to be an internal change. You’re wrong secularists didn’t force Christianity to change during the industrial revolution idk where u got that from. Christianity started to change after the Protestant reformation. After people started reading the Bible for themselves they realized how much the church was abusing their authority so the church was forced to reform. The difference with Islam is that Muslim countries are not abusing their authority as sharia law is in accordance with Quran and Hadith. So there will never be a widespread enlightenment within Islam
@k. of course when I say the Protestant reformation I don’t mean it happened overnight. It was a process. My point is there would be no secularism without the Protestant reformation. It set the precedent for the age of enlightenment
@k. an Islamic enlightenment is necessary to fully secularize the Muslim world but like I said that can’t happen because honest Muslims know that Islam permits what goes on in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Thank you very much for this interview. The clarity that Dr Ehrman brought to the issues you raised should make people who might otherwise blindly accept the standard Islamic narrative of Christ think again. You provide a great service to the community.
@Jamal Ramadan Christians say "Christianity" is "true" -- which means the particular creed each person identifying as "Christian" believes in. I would say a more important question is, "does believing in any religion matter?"
@Jamal Ramadan Hello, Jamal. As Dr Ehrman said, he's an atheist (as am I), so clearly he doesn't think that Christianity is true, though the New Testament carries true indications of how people thought about Jesus in the first hundred years. I also have no doubt that that the representation of Jesus in the Muslim tradition is historically unsupportable.
@@dragonofchaos7843 Hello there. As an atheist trained in historical research, I suspect that Dr Ehrman's comments should also indicate to Muslims that they cannot be confident that the figure of Jesus as a prophet, as reported in Muslim texts, has a firm basis. Best wishes .
@@haroldwood1394 our belief in Jesus and who he was doesn’t stem from historical records the history surrounding Jesus is all unreliable flimsy to say the least
This might not be a video with a lot of views, but for me learning about Bart Ehrman was very interesting, love his debates especially about suffering. Thank you for introducing him!
#Allah said Jesus was not crucified And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝗵𝗶𝗺; 𝗯𝘂𝘁 [𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿] 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗺 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise)
I enjoyed watching that and found it quite entertaining! What disappointed me most, was not Bart's distortion of the Christian message, but his clever way of avoiding saying anything contrary to Islam or the Quran, even though he will be well aware of the fabrications of both! My "take away" from this is that Bart is more concerned about avoiding any 'trouble' with Muslims, than he is about giving an honest educated opinion about Islam and the Quran, however much predicated with a disclaimer of "I'm not an expert in Islam or the Quran". He could have given an educated opinion on for instance the difference between Jesus's teachings and message, from that found in the Quran, or the differences between the documented Jesus and the documented Mohammed....but he avoided doing so, because he wanted to remove himself from any criticism for giving such an opinion. Where he did give an opinion, these were so carefully crafted as to not contradict anything Islamic, that his opinions on this were virtually USELESS! - I think Bart should have been a Politician as with his Diplomatic skills, he would have excelled in any TV or Press interview, with these tactics!
Yes, he avoided criticize Islam - its cowardly, but it can be lethal to talk bad about Mohammedanism in contrast to criticize Christianity. As Agnostic I respect peaceful religions like Christianity or Buddhism that contains much wisdom. Mohammedanism should be erased by all means.
@@livinia296 Bart Ehrman didn't "disprove" Christianity - he disproved Islam! You see, the Quran claims that Jesus wasn't crucified, but Bart Ehrman has said this is wrong and fabrication. According to Muslims, if even one thing is wrong in the Quran or a contradiction, the whole Quran is wrong and cannot be from God. Bart Ehrman has confirmed that the Quran is in error in Surah 4:157, as I have long known.
Such an AMAZING interview! It confirms many things that I found when I was learning before I left Christianity. Greetings from an ex-Christian and an ex-Muslim from Poland ❤️
The Parable of the wicked Tenants There was a landowner who planted a vineyard in a land,He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place. When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit (Matthew 21:33-34) .The tenants seized his servants;and land owner send so many servants to the land but they beat one, killed another, and stoned another one, Last of all, he sent his one and only son to them. "They will respect my son," he said (Matthew 21:35-37). But when the tenants saw son, they said to each other, "This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance." So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. Then Jesus asked in , “What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.” Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the scriptures: ‘The very stone which the builders rejected(son=Jesus) has become the corner stone, Lord’s doing,and it is marvelous in our eyes’?Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it.”[a] These are the main character of the parable The landowner - represents God(father ) The vineyard - His Kingdom (Israel) The tenants - specifically Israel’s religious leaders and all who reject Him(jews) The servants - God’s prophets and faithful believers The beloved son - Jesus Christ New tenants- Gentiles, christians These are Jesus statements 1:iam the way truth and life no one come father except through me 2:everything father does son does 3:everything fathers hand is mine 4:all authority in heaven and earth given to me 5:if you seen me see father 6:before Abraham was iam 7:i and father are one Bro use the mention statements and connected with the character 1:You can reach father only through son not servants 2:everything father does son does not servant, only father can forgive and son Jesus forgive sins 3:everything father hand is owned by son not servants 4:all authority of father belongs to son not servants 5:you can see father only through son not servants Jesus Christ is the corner stone of christanity 1:Paul writes in 1st Corinthians 3:9a, "For we are God's fellow workers, you are God's field, you are God's building." Jesus being the Chief Cornerstone of our faith brings unity to the body of Christ. 2:Acts 4:10-12 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief corner stone. And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” 3:Ephesians 2:20-22 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit
Lol. Ex-Muslim. I think u just being provocative n trying to get reaction. If u were truly Muslim, u would not leave. Nobody leaves truth for falsehood, and if you knew true Islam, then theres definitely no going back. May Allah almighty expose n guide you to the truth. Peace n blessings.
@@ApostateProphet Just saw you interviewing Ert Bartman the most confused christian turned into an atheist because of a lots of readings. Because of the presence of Satan and his demons in human life the real truth of Christianity and who is Jesus got distorted. In the 2nd century wrong belief went out from certain people that resulted in 2 breakup churches. One kept the faith and the other manufactured gossip that resulted in Catholicism and then the islam. Catholicism and Islam is the same thing that put forth lies by force.And that resulted in your problem and ert bartman's problem to be confused. Why then muhammad called Jesus the Kalam (Paigam of God) or kalimatullah. And also RoohAllah meaning the Eternal life of God? That makes him God!!! Then in another place muhammad wrote that Jesus is just a paigambar and not Paigam or kalam or message of God. Messenger and message are 2 different things and separate in kind. Messenger only delivers the message. The God of Israel became Man.John: 1: 1-14 here Jesus being the Word kalam and creator became Man the message and choose the messenger John the baptist to introduce him to the people Israel.Just like the Prophet of old brought the word of the Lord to the people and were carriers. Muhammad was a false carriers.He just connected to the christianity railway tract a cross over line to a another tract called islam by hatred.That resulted in eternal death tract. Today there are 2 types of christianity,the real and the false one. Dont forget that muhammad's first inlaws were catholics and the making of islam was intentional to destroy the real christianity. It still exists today. And you will find there the mighty miracles are still happening,the lame walking the blind are seeing the dead being raised to life in the 21st century just as Jesus promised them that he would do this through them. If you want to see this true church then answer me on this platform.I will send you the link.
It’s crazy that AP is doing God’s work by disproving Islam constantly while AP still is an atheist. Goes to show God can use anyone he wills. Hopefully in Jesus name he comes to accept the truth of the gospel.
I respect Dr.Ehram's knowledge of the gospel. but I don't understand when he says at 26:38 when he says that Jesus didn't expect to get crucified contradicts that Jesus foretold him to go to Jerusalem and the Chief priest would get a hold of him and hand over to be killed and be raised again which is reported in all 4 gospels. Luke 13:33; Matthew 16:21; Matthew 17:22; Mark 8:31 I wonder how he came to that conclusion?
And also in 1 Corinthians (which is he oldest dated book of the New Testament), Paul says that Jesus was crucified ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES. That means the Christian belief at the time of 1st Corinthians was not just that Jesus was crucified, but that this crucifixion was foretold in the Old Testament already written, yet he says he doesn't believe Jesus knew He would be crucified. Bart Ehrman says foolish things like this all the time, and if you put him under scrutiny, he won't defend his wacky claims.
@@Lovethyself887 Bart Ehrman is asserting that Jesus Himself didn't know that He would be crucified BECAUSE he thinks all references to Jesus having knowledge of this are later additions to the Gospels. 1 Corinthians is the oldest dated book in the New Testament predating all four Gospels BY ATHEIST SCHOLARS, this is THEIR consensus on my religion. And in 1st Corinthians, Paul says that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures. The whole point is that if the Christians during the writings of the oldest dated book of the New Testament believed that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures that proceeded Him and foretold the suffering of the Christ, and the entering into His glory, on what foundation is Bart Ehrman now saying this was a later addition to Christianity? You're just an atheist repeating talking points you've been indoctrinated with, follow the argument logically next time, or don't comment.
Difference between Islam and Christian: U Will not find any christian who would call Bart names, such as he was never a Christian. But is when a person leaves Islam and speak up, Muslims would call him/ her names. They'd say "he was never a true Muslim
Disagree with Bart that Jesus was expecting for God to set up his kingdom on the earth during his lifetime. If Jesus’ words are accurate, he was quoted as saying, “my kingdom is not of this world, else would my followers fight.”
This was fantastic. In summary:
1. Bart Ehrman does not agree with Islam.
2. It is implausible that Jesus "brought" a scripture as the Quran claims.
3. The New Testament is quite accurate with additions, not corruptions.
4. Apocryphal stories found in the Quran are fabrications.
5. Jesus was definitely crucified.
6. Early Christians were not "Muslims," they worshiped Jesus.
7. Jesus was always known as the Son of God in a sense.
8. The 4 Gospels are the most authentic Gospels.
9. Paul's Undisputed Epistles are definitely authentic.
10. The Gospels partially agree but also disagree with the Quran.
11. Christians until the 7th century believed in Jesus as God and/or Son of God.
12. Jesus definitely did not predict Muhammad.
13. Jesus and Muhammad are hard to compare.
*Muslims should stop misusing Bart Ehrman to validate their own beliefs. He doesn't agree with them at all.*
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Will you ever try Trusting in Jesus, AP? At least we can’t say anything bad about him. Unlike pedo-mo the prophet of Islam. God bless you.
The new testament can only be "mostly accurate" after you interpret away most of the errors and contradiction.
The Muslims Jesus is fake.
2 CORINTHIANS 11:4;
MARK 13:22.
You mean Muslims Scholars have been deliberately lying to the public and bralnwashing MusIms? : O
@Isaac13 Abraham aint kabaa also used for pagan in pre islamic belief lmao also why is your heaven looks like porn... Sorry but your prophet is a warlord like JP said
As the final seconds ticked away, I almost thought that AP wasn't going to say, "Stay away from Islam."
@Jamal Ramadan How did it feel to watch a 31 minute long video of Bart putting a finger inside of the bum of Mohammed? xD
@Jamal Ramadan He did but a certain mr.muhammad deceived many into his lies who we often find commenting on random RUclips vedios. The actual joke is they think their comments are smart and rational.
@Jamal Ramadan Jesus came not to destroy, but to save. He chooses to exercise his omniscience, but dont worry the same Jesus that appeared to Abraham and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is the same Jesus who says hes coming back to deal retribution to them that know not God
@Jamal Ramadan ok I guess it's just the after effects then.
@Jamal Ramadan u are not a muslim?
Great interview. Im a Christian and I get sick of people quoting Bart at me because if you know the background of the new testament and listen Bart contextually he really doesnt provide that much of a challenge to anything I believe.
That is even more for orthodox Christians. Bart himself saed that he is from fundamentalist background so that explain a lot in his personal “crusade”against Christianity.
@@Alisalah_24 yeah because Christians believe in 1 God, if you're a muslim you're not able to comprehend that but it is just one God. God is a Trinity 1 being but 3 persons that have loved eachother for all eternity
@@Psa22-6 the concept of God being many persons is so simple to understand people just deny it. If you ask someone a question, if God wanted to be a talking elephant for a day, would that talking elephant be God? The answer is yes. God could take many forms, it doesn’t change the fact that his form of being Jesus and the Holy Spirit is God. God is a very personal being we can see so just how universe is created. God is a personality that wants to be with us and show love and receive love in return
@@jakob6696 Thats modalism and not even close to what the trinity is, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit have all existed eternally, not one God shifting around, Each one has always been divine always loving one another from eternity past.
@Jesus Or Muhammad he is not superficial nor foolish he is 100x smarter than you as he has studied the bible and you have not.
Muslims: try to use Bart ehrman against Christians.
Atheist ex-Muslim: now use Bart ehrman back against Muslims.
Muslims: shot their own foot
Muslims : Well now we don't buy it
@@shaktech why does it not matter what non-muslim has to say about ur Deen? I think opinions are valid, not based of identity, but competenc..
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@@shaktech you're following your cult by default. Remember that.
@@shaktech If historical Jesus doesn't align with the Qur'an , then how can the Qur'an be the inerrant revelation of God? Also , Bart is NOT saying these to satisfy AP. Watch AP's previous video on Bart's discussion with Mohammad Hijab 😂
This is great! Thanks for meeting up with Ehrman
I disagree with the view that Jesus did not expect to be crucified. The 'Prof' said earlier that the first 3 Gospels especially were very reliable. If this is so, then Jesus knew He would be crucified. He mentioned it to His disciples before His arrest that led to His crucifixion.
Agreed, that point is anti-historic.
Nah..jesus last words put an end to this issue..he clearly did not intend to get killed nor planned to be a sacrifice..
Thank you AP to invite Prof. Bart Ehrman who end up confirming the Muslim’s visions of that story of Jesus PBUH.
Ladies and gentlemen please listen to AP video
Islam vs. Christianity on Jesus | Dr. Bart Ehrman Speaks to Apostate Prophet
Ha ..ha .....Poor AP was trying hard to put words in Bart's mouth .. to hurt Islam ... but all fired back on him ...poor guy.
In min 4:00 Bart end up to confirm the Quran is better book than Gospels
In min 18 &26 Jesus was prophet
In min 19:00 Bart removed the divinity of Jesus just because called people called him Son of God .
In min 25 Bart confirms the diversity of early Christianity and conflicts people went through to come up with the Christian doctoring.
@@truthmatter9972 - I saw the video, and I saw the opposite of what you say. I guess I dont trust agnostic sayings.
@@entertaininformmedia7836 Just go the mins above you will see it very clearly. Also Bart said that Jesus never tough that he gona be killed not sure what min , but it is there. Poor AP was almost crying during the interview.... i do not blame him .
The Old Testament and the epistles are enough to point me in the direction of Jesus as the Messiah and affirm the Christian view of what the Messiah would and will accomplish. The Gospels are a beautiful portrait of the Lord ,what he did, and his teachings. I’m glad we have them.
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@Isaac13 Abraham Just as it is much more hilarious when you muslims and your arab prophet claim to know Christ better than jews & christians themselves.
@Isaac13 Abraham People like you rejected your own 2nd temple period Biblical Judaism of which Christianity is a continuation of in the 2nd century AD and Rabbinic Judaism and Islam are kissing cousins of counterfeit interpretations of the Hebrew Bible that gave (The Two Powers of Heaven by Alan Segal ) theology that Jesus and the Apostles including Paul taught.
Dr.Michael S.Heiser videos explains this Jewish theology.
@Isaac13 Abraham The letter to the Hebrews might contradict your assumption.
The writings of the 4 Gospels were dates to at the latest 85 years after Christ. The writings of the next most textually supported ancient writing after the Bible was Homer’s Iliad. Many thousands of Christian scripture copies from within the first 100 years, with mainly “spelling” errors as Dr BE said in video. The Iliad had a little over 600 copies, but written centuries later.
You’re right Hebrew scriptures were very accurately transcribed. Christians have never argued against that.
@Isaac13 Abraham the first Christians were Jews it’s not as if gentiles came upon it and reinterpreted it.
Many Christians learn Hebrew for the sole reason of understanding scripture better. It’s somewhat ridiculous that you think only Jews can understand the scripture. Which verses are claiming have been changed?
7:16, Jesus was a practising Jew who at the age of 12 would need to go to the synagogue and read / recite Scripture from the scrolls, how could he be illiterate? Jewish tradition has such an emphasis on the written word and scriptures.
No! Jesus was a jew who was a practicing muslim!😁
Memorizing a scripture does not need one to know how to read
@@battlerushiromiya651 yes, but reading the Tanakh was a big part of Jewish culture. It was more common that children would be taught by their parents also. It definitely would have been mentioned by many people were he illiterate, but based on zero evidence the interviewee came to a weird conclusion.
@@katebee945 well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@battlerushiromiya651 . It seems that you are one of those who follow Bart Ehrman blindly. We Christians do not need Bart Ehrman to give us wrong information about our Lord Jesus Christ when we have reliable eye witnesses' account in the gospel and preceding prophecies in the old testament. It's atheists and muslims that need him.It is stupidity for any sensible person to leave eyewitnesses' account and start following a man who was born few years ago but ended studying to misinform people for reasons best known to him. You can be gullible to whatever Bart Ehrman says but he can't say some of these things in midst of sincere Bible scholars and Christians who know their Bible. If someone tells you that Jesus Christ the miracle worker could not read, should you believe in the first case? A smart person will not believe that but look for evidences for that but unfortunately, Bart Ehrman is A FAKE SCHOLAR and I will show you in my next post evidences that Jesus Christ was literate( it's miraculous) but because Bart Ehrman is an agnostic, he deliberately distorts the Bible. I feel worried when atheists and muslims go after this guy for information on the Bible when the account in the gospel are those of eye witnesses.
Bart Ehrman: Disciples never said Jesus pre-existed.
Apostle Peter: "He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you."
(1 Peter 1:20)
That’s another great example I was going to type.
Ehrman: *NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE THAT ITS LIKE BAZILLION YEARS LATER*
pseudonymous author: “apostle Peter”
@@streetsdisciple0014 Maybe you, someone born 2000 years later could tell that to persecuted fathers of old who were alive with the apostle Peter in the 1st century.
@@shiloh2001 so says the someone born 2000 yrs later…
He didn’t know if he could read he read in the book of Isaiah and when correcting the Pharisees he would tell them didn’t you read in the scriptures.This doctor needs a doctor
Fo Sho it's sad really
Exactly, what about John 8 where Jesus wrote on the ground with his finger?
well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
@@AntiChrxzt who should teach God how to read
@@AntiChrxzt "Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families" You know, being among top 10% is not so awesome. Presumably nowadays ability to write a few lines of code in any script or programming language would be a more arcane knowledge.
"The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as" Gifted kid that needed to be given a single chance?
I find your faith in formal education disturbing... :D :D :D
Islam is wrong about Lord Jesus .
That's why Islam is wrong.
All religion is wrong.
@@deltanovember1672 No need to Believe your argument. Since there is no Logic In It.
I need reasoning
@@jacksoncastelino04
All religions and all gods are man made
@kaıser Jesus was not only human🙄, He is the Word of God made flesh.
No Christian believed man can become God😂
@@ironlake8944 How do you know that all of them are man-made? Have you done extensive research into the origins of every single one?
When he said that Jesus couldn't read, that seems to contradict his comprehensive understanding of rabbinical teachings and the fact that he was called Rabbi by others. Despite this being the case, it is clear that Jesus did not write the gospels himself.
How can you write your own story from birth to death, lol
Also the gospels cover the busiest period of his life
@@cedriceric9730 Great points.
I also wonder how many Jews were able to read and write. They are commanded to wear the commandments and write them at the door. That could imply that they at least were able to read to some extent. Also, he frequented synagogues and read out loud the Bible, which means that he was likely very literate, and probably in up to four languages Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin
****////Why Muslims say Jesus is a Prophet of Allah !! ⚠️Even though Jesus is named after another god! ⚠️ /////***
So Yehoshua (Jesus) is supposed to be a prophet of Allah according to Islam ???
How does it work if Allah is not YHWH! In addition, it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam to testify to YHWH as the 1 True God!
But Yehoshua means "YHWH SAVES”” So Jesus is definitely not the prophet of Allah! Because he only confirm YHWH!
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
***************are all prophets according to the Quran******************
@@Hannestv4607 funny enough, The Koran never mentions God’s name, a proof that it was written by people who were not familiar with the Bible and its prophets.
Haha I love AP(peace be upon him)
I think Isa was a direct opposite of the historical Jesus Christ.
Isa was just a mythical man who never existed in history
Isa was a terrible fabrication
ruclips.net/video/5RTWM5Kqo88/видео.html
@@samajiboye4871 kind of funny that Christians would debate or discuss about if Jesus is GOD or something, but forget that they are on Atheists' channel. 😆
@@umarmujaahid1136 So, what’s the problem with that? In this comment section I see Hindus, Muslims, Christians and Atheists debating. By your logic, Muslims couldn’t be debating in the comment section of David Wood. Seriously, the more I read the arguments of Muslims, the more I stop taking you seriously.
If you wanna go back semantics and names. Jesus Christ doesnt exist either, because thats a latinized name.
I find it interesting that he really believes Jesus couldn't read even though Jesus quoted Old Testament multiple times per the historical witness testimony. Matthew was extremely literate, it was his job to be. Also....the "I AM" statements He made that led Him to be executed...there are way too many holes but I still appreciate his effort
@Jamal Ramadan clearly
****////Why Muslims say Jesus is a Prophet of Allah !! ⚠️Even though Jesus is named after another god! ⚠️ /////***
So Yehoshua (Jesus) is supposed to be a prophet of Allah according to Islam ???
How does it work if Allah is not YHWH! In addition, it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam to testify to YHWH as the 1 True God!
But Yehoshua means "YHWH SAVES”” So Jesus is definitely not the prophet of Allah! Because he only confirm YHWH!
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
***************are all prophets according to the Quran******************
So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to "read" Luke 4:16
Rare find
How can Mathew be illiterate and yet he worked as a tax collector how could he keep the records without writing statements and records
I thought this exact same thing. He refutes himself because he says that the first three gospels are very reliable and then within those first three gospels we have plenty of passages where Jesus was reading 😂
Thanks for inviting Bart.
👍👍👍
Will the Muslims keep on peddling Bart Ehrman as an authority after this interview? I don’t think so 😂
Of course they will. What would stop them?
They still like Yasir Qadhi too
@@veronicaredeemed Many only selectively agree 🤣 not fully with his theory that Quran is preserved fully.
Bart is actually disproving christianity. Listen to him.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
bahrt ehrman litterally dissprooved christianity in this interview completly bahrt ehrman litterally stated that the diciples of jesus and the earliest christians were much more closer to an islamic narrative about jesus then what u have today
@@darthkothicame7822 the quran is one hundred procent preserved infact even bahrt ehrman said that the manuscripts of the quran were much more faithfully copied than the new testament
Dr Bart Ehrman's laugh is legendary
He has just disproved Christianity.
And you are talking about his laugh????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@livinia296 years of bart herman debunking christianity made them lose brain cells 😂
@@ayubhassan4236 you do know that he debunked Islam ideas of Jesus? if you further watch AP videos about Bart, you do know he thinks Islam is a joke.
@@livinia296 he has been trying for years, y'all look up to this man who thinks your religion is a joke.
honestly, i may not like him but his laugh is literally funny, AP uploaded another video about Bart and his laugh is so funny, ill link it to u🤣
edit:
here's the link
ruclips.net/video/JozODvCuvdo/видео.html enjoy 🤪
Watch Muslims say that Bart isn’t a good scholar now after they’ve been kissing up to him for years 😂
And on the other hand, except for James White and his followers, he's been far too respected.
Bart just disproved Christianity. Did you not listen????🤣
@@livinia296
While on that way he said Mein kamf preserved like qooraan 😂😂
@@undertheglassmoon2239 🤔. Sorry!!
@@livinia296
Yes Im sorry for Abdoolism 😂😂
26:59 *"I definitely do not think that Jesus was predicting Muhammad!"* - B. Ehrman
But his view that Jesus couldn't read is laughable: so Bart is a mixed bag of incoherence do to him becoming an atheist.
Lol 🤭
@@davidjanbaz7728 Jesus reads from the Isaiah scroll in the Synagogue.
@@hereweare9096 exactly!
"Do not think." He didn't say he knows for a FACT.
The Quran has NOT been “faithfully copied” at all, and it was edited and changed all the way until it was standardized in 1924! The Quran is NOT superior in any way to any religious text, let alone the Bible. The Topkapi and Samarkand Qurans who have THOUSANDS of differences from the current 1924 version are two of many examples that prove this.
Yea keep barking ur Christian apologetic research from Jay smith and scam shamoun 😂
You know nothing LOL
LOLLL,,,, FUCKED. KNOWLEDGE,,,, 😂😂😂
1924 ITS DIALECTICAL,,,, ONLY,,,,, EVEN 1917 SINGAPORE , ALSO INDIAN ISSUED ALQURAN,,,, ALREADY ,,,, YOU CAN COMPARE IT,,,, ITS STILL THE SAME TILL NOW DAYS,,,,,PROVEN,,,
Remember there was a time when the "experts" did not think Nazareth existed until they found it and also most evidence is coming out that more people could read and write
context?
Also, the very existence of a historical Jesus was heavily contested not too many years ago, while today is a pretty established fact among scholars. Our understanding changes over time, but any new finding just confirms the reliability of the Biblical narrative.
Also most of the experts didn't believe Potnius Pilate existed until they found the evidence that he did...
@Jamal Ramadan no. I don't trust "experts". I remember when Elon Musk was struggling with SpaceX and the so called "experts" say specex was going to free fall alongside Tesla. Today we know where SpaceX is.
200 years ago experts said that hittites were imaginary group of people in the bible. But those experts were wrong.
With regard to the implication that Jesus never went to school, astoundingly, just because Nazareth was a tiny village: Jesus was not a prisoner of Nazareth. There were other larger villages nearby, and the capital - Sepphoris - was only 3.7 miles away. He regularly taught in synagogues - would an illiterate man be invited to teach / speak in a synagogue if he could neither read nor write, and therefore knew nothing about the Torah?
Also a common misconception is that Jesus was a poor person because he was a carpenter, when being a carpenter in those times was a lucrative business and he probably had access to a decent education, at least enough to learn how to read and write.
True, absence of infrastructure doesn't imply lack of education. People used to learn by gathering under trees in old times.
He read and also lacked a formal education. This is clear in the Gospels.
Apostles call Jesus “Rabbi” - “teacher”.
Metzger, Bart’s teacher, in his books claim, that Jesus most likely was educated, which in that times meant be educated in scriptures - Tanakh.
****////Why Muslims say Jesus is a Prophet of Allah !! ⚠️Even though Jesus is named after another god! ⚠️ /////***
So Yehoshua (Jesus) is supposed to be a prophet of Allah according to Islam ???
How does it work if Allah is not YHWH! In addition, it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam to testify to YHWH as the 1 True God!
But Yehoshua means "YHWH SAVES”” So Jesus is definitely not the prophet of Allah! Because he only confirm YHWH!
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
***************are all prophets according to the Quran******************
Great interview it’s so funny how Muslims quote this guy. Seeing Muhammad Hijabs disappointment when he interviewed Bart was priceless. 😂
Your forgetting its an interview, not a debate, so why would mohammed hijab have disappointment in simply an interview on his thought process and beliefs. As a muslim i do quote him ill admit, but i also quote peter j williams whose also a christian to be fair during debates i have. There is no disappointment, we are all just seeking the truth, we don’t care about the ego boost of being right or wrong, we simply want the truth and to go to heaven, and avoid hell at all costs. Thats all. You make it a personal issue more than an ideological/theological issue. Stop pointing fingers and seek truth yourself, don’t wanna see anyone going to hell for a lack of common sense. Im not forcing you or anything to convert, im simply saying go do research with no bias, listen to multiple scholars of each religion and belief to build up a proper consensus. At the end of the day, your the one in charge of your fate, no one else.
@@littlenaro1700the evidence points to Islam being false.
@@Cynical_B😂😂😂😂😂😂. That's obviously why Hijab, AKA mo Boobs, interviewed him...
So funny don't make your own opinion based on " expert" search the truth for yourself self
It's a funny thing that as a Christian I really don't mind the fact that there are differences in the gospels giving varying accounts. The fundamental story is the tread that runs through it, one of Gods mercy, love and grace. I do think though that every scene captured and written down in the bible is meant to be there, every word is valuable and to be discussed, read through and eventually for each person to have an individual revelation of Jesus. It is a supernatural book.
*”religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful.”*
*- Lucius Annaeus Seneca -*
04 BC - AD 65
@@tetrasiklinaminoglikozit9605 Problem is history has shown rulers will get rid of religions. Can't be a complete dictator without get rid of what can go against the dictator's words.
Mr. Ehrman is incorrect in saying that the Quran has been accurately copied. There are no ancient qurans that agree with the Hafs quran, and there still exist today multiple variations of the quran.
Bart doesn't know if Jesus could read SMH
Jesus wrote in the sand with his finger and when he had finished all those accusing the woman had walked away.
That passage is almost universally considered to be a later addition to the gospels. However, the passage in Luke where Jesus reads from the scroll of Isaiah is definitely original to that gospel, and tells us that Jesus was able to read Hebrew (though it doesn't tell us about his literacy in Greek or Aramaic).
@@stephengray1344 Koine Greek was the common language for commerce in that region and it was the language Roman officials used besides Latin, so while we can't say it for certain, most probably Jesus also understood Greek, since he has encounters with non Hebrew population in the Gospel accounts.
Agreed 🙏🌈✝️
There is a lot Bart doesn't know or is uncertain of, but the issue is he often tries to cloud his uncertainty in an arguably dishonest way. Notice how he conjectures about timelines, as an example - "20, 30, 40 or 50 years *nervous laugh*". He's made a lucrative career by speculating on something, that when pushed, he will admit that he doesn't actually know and can't be certain of. He knows which side of his bread has the butter on it.
Well actually a story in both Matthew and Mark present conflicting accounts on the subject of Jesus' literacy. In both accounts/stories, Jesus is rejected as a synagogue teacher in Nazareth by the people of his hometown because they knew or believed he wasn't qualified for the task. In the Matthew version of events, their rejection was due to the fact that Joseph was a carpenter and, thus wasn't from an educated class that would have learned these skills to pass on to Jesus. Added with the fact that the majority of of people in the ancient world (85 - 95% estimates) at the times of Jesus, were illiterate. Those who were literate, were from wealthy, elite, upperclass families. Jesus meanwhile, is depicted as not coming from a high social class, from the small and unwealthy town of Nazareth. There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus had access to education that was not available to his social class. The Bible doesn't make any mention of how he could've learned. The story of Jesus reading from the scriptures can be interpreted as "God providing Jesus with the ability to read without having learned." But then that is a supernatural claim that can't be proven as fact anyway, like many other Biblical claims and stories.
Wait.. the dude said he didn’t know if Jesus could read. Is he a Christian? Because Jesus read Torah in synagogue
@@luke2346luke later manuscripts according to who?
Erhaman is an atheists.
He turned away from Christianity because he could not reconcile the suffering in the world with the existence of a loving g God.
It is not clear why he says that Jesus' followers did not regard him as God.
In his time, the apostles heard God declare him as son of God and Thomas and Peter regarded and confessed him as God.
@@luke2346luke That's a really weak argument, and Bart knows it. The passage in question is from Luke, which Bart believes does contain historical information. He's basing his claim that Jesus was illiterate on the fact that Nazareth was a very small settlement and the fact that most people at the time couldn't read and write.
@Luiz Atheists make such errors and that's why they always lose
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue
Luke 4:14-22
Esv
Jesus Begins His Ministry
14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor.
(AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind,
(AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
Ich liebe es wie Bart Ehrman lacht!!!
Wait you have multiple moms
Why are you speaking Nazi language?
Haha ist so dikka unnormal listig
@@elbasado481 why are u speaking tomato language ??
Dlaczego mowisz w języku kolonizatorów?
Yo AP!
Thank you for blessing my eyes seeing you in a suit!
Dr. Bart Ehrman seems to have forgotten that in the gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Jesus predicted His resurrection as much as He did His crucifixion which has been confirmed.
Paul claimed jesus will return in his lifetime, so did he actually communicated with jesus.Either he was just hallucinating or was just a lair.
@@ayanrushd4800 you don't understand the timeline because people didn't either. Isaiah 46:11 is clear
@@MrJole777 Isaiah 46:11
New International Version
11 From the east I summon(A) a bird of prey;(B)
from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose.
Are your high or just made an error.
Bart is a New Testament scholar, youre what?
@@ayanrushd4800 No he didn't. He may have expected this, but there is no indication of him stating this would happen in his lifetime, at all. In fact most of the early Christians were anticipating this in their lifetimes, but both Paul and Jesus stated that the return of Christ will only happen in certain conditions....and these conditions have not yet been met!
re: "Either he was just hallucinating or was just a lair." >> Neither is the case.
It's more than obvious that Bert Erhrman is getting fed up to be abused as a mean of muslim propaganda.
So cool that you managed to get Dr. Ehrman as a guest. I love his work.
I would put a hard stop to the writing of all the gospels at 70 AD. the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem is such a big event to be missed by any writer of the gospel but all the writers of the new testament seem to be unaware of this big event. If Jesus died in this 30s then gospels at most have to be written 40 years after Jesus. Bart assertions cannot be reasonable supported
Exactly! None of the gospels refer to the Temple destruction. This means they had to be written before. Also Jesus could read. So could a Matthew ( tax collector).
@@nymgrace1227 Agreed - He was called a Rabbi by others and one would assume that a Rabbi could read.
Its good to hear, because I used to say the exact argument.
- the destruction of the temple was like the holocaust of the time, it is impossible to not to be mentioned
- moreover Jesus is prophesizing about it several times, so it would make sense that the writers had made it clear, by pointing to the historical event, it would be a necessity almost
@@nemgyuri such an event would be too tempting to ignore, however, all the writers seem completely obvious to this event. Are not you exaggerating a bit about the destruction of the temple you said Jesus prophesy about "several times" it is only mentioned in Mark ( ch 13) and only in one verse with the wider context of the last days? The way the disciples behave was like if they did not really believe Jesus. I would hardly call it several times. such was such a dramatic event it not only destroyed the temple but emptied Jerusalem of all Jews and destroyed many places
@@midnightwatchman1 I was strengthening your point, I dont see why you see it contradicting, Jesus said He will destroy the temple and rebuild it, He prophesized about the temple in the olivet discourse as well. These statements would have been linked to the destruction of the temple, if the gospels were written after it.
Muslims, turn to Jesus Christ, muhammad distort Jesus Christ image
The Jesus slave ship is waiting for all with distorted vison
I didn't think it was mathematically possible for two atheists to talk about Jesus in a (mostly) insightful & respectful manner for 30 full minutes.
this INTERVIEW litterally prooved that according to bahrt ehrman that the diciples of jesus were much closer to an islamic narrative than what u have today that was evolving for over 700 years
You mean his disciples, who believed that he was the Son of God or "somehow divine" and who believed that he is the last to come, were closer to the Islamic narrative?
@@ApostateProphet He said son of God did not mean his divine and his disciples beieleved in one God confirming Islam. Go watch your own video. My God this guy is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@ApostateProphet You mean his disciples, who believed that he was the Son of God or "somehow divine" and who believed that he is the last to come, were closer to the Islamic narrative
THATS NOT WHAT BAHRT EHRMAN SAID HE SAID THE DICIPLES OF JESUS BELIVED HE WAS A HUMAN AND WORSHIPPED GOD ALONE AND THAT PROOVES THAT THE QURANIC CLAIM IS VALID
AND HE ALSO WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE TERM SON OF GOD WAS UNDERSTOOD DIFFRENTLY UNLIKE TODAYS CHRISTIANS AND HE USED THE HEBREW OLD TESTAMENT TO PROOVE THAT BECAUSE THE JEWS CALL RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE AND ANGELS THE SON OF GOD
@Jesus Or Muhammad WHAT U ON ABOUT I DONT BLINDLY FOLLOW SCHOOLARS IM A MUSLIM I FOLLOW ISLAM
As a Muslim, i would like to thank AP for showing me how Bart Erhman affirms certain fundamental beliefs in Islam to be more historical about Jesus, than what is believed in mainstream Christianity today.
I can't believe your war of showing BE disagrees with Islam is by asking him if he accepts certain aspects of Islamic theology - even though he's an atheist. (Was Jesus Muslim; did he prophecy Muhammad; did he bring a scripture?)...childish stuff. Muslims don't literally expect this.
1. Firstly, Islam does NOT teach that the Gospel is a book or scripture. It teaches that the Gospel was a revelation. There are two mentioned together in the Quran about revelation - the Book and the Wisdom. Concerning Jesus, the Quran says (3:48): "And He will teach him the Book and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel". The Book is the Torah, and the Gospel is the wisdom associated with the understanding of the Book. In a parallel manner, we see the same thing with regard to the prophet Muhammad in Quran (2:129): "Our Lord, and send among them a messenger from themselves who will recite to them Your verses and teach them the Book and wisdom and purify them. Indeed, You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise." and Quran (62:2): "It is He who has sent among the unlettered a Messenger from themselves reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and wisdom - although they were before in clear error". The Book mentioned here is the Quran; it is the verbatim word of God inscribed as a book. And the Wisdom is that which the prophet was inspired with and verbally taught which explains the Quran - as is found the Sunnah (Hadiths). Ibn Kathir states of Q 2:129: "(and Al-Hikmah) meaning, the Sunnah, as Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Muqatil bin Hayyan and Abu Malik asserted. It was also said that `Al-Hikmah', means `comprehension in the religion',". That's why both the Gospel teachings and the Sunnah were passed down in a similar way through oral tradition and then written down; so prophetic wisdom is the more parallel revelation to the Gospel. And the Gospels obviously show the he wasn't carrying a book, but preaching the Gospel (Mark 4:23).
2. Muslims have the same beliefs as the earliest followers; of course they wouldn’t have all Islamic beliefs because some beliefs are only mentioned in the Quran (so much for your silly “Muslim” question). As Erhman says; they believed he was human; didn't use ''son of God' in a divine sense; believed he was a prophet, a teacher inspired by God, and The Messiah. This is exactly what Muslims believe, not that he's divine, that he came to die for sins and was resurrected to prove it as Christians do today.
3. Paul joins the early followers lead by James 7 years after this event and teaches different teachings. Professor James D Tabor of Ancient Judaism and Early Christianity notes this, and says that basic Islamic belief seems to be in line with what early community and James believed; hence why this savior & grace narrative is not found the Book of James; James as a figure is more authoritative than Paul on Jesus and even appears to be arguing against his claim of being saved by faith alone. He writes in his book, The Jesus Dynasty, page 315-316, that Islamic teachings “is precisely what we find emphasized in the Book of James. Like Islam, the book of James, and the teaching of Jesus in Q, emphasize doing the will of God as a demonstration of one's faith. [….] there is little about the view of Jesus presented in this book (The Jesus Dynasty) that conflicts with Islam’s basic perception”. Bearing in mind after Paul’s conversion, he left this group to preach his own Gospel around Asia Minor for a whole 10 years, then returned back to James and Peter.
4. The crucifixion goes in line with the Quran + the early disciples’ belief in it. The Quran states that it was made to ‘appear’ as so; whether it was someone else is a different question. So the fact history documents Jesus as being crucified is not a contradiction.
5. Erhman did NOT say the NT is “mostly authentic” - he said it is the oldest most reliable material, but contains both truth and falsehood which needs to deciphered which is also what Muslims believe. Paul influences the rest of the Gospels; his letters are written by him and his followers and the Gospels are written by followers afterwards, but by drawing on the existing oral traditions about Jesus which also contain historical information as did other Gospel writers. The Gospels were canonized by authorities in confirmation of their Pauline beliefs - not based on historiography - and the others burned and gotten rid of. This attitude continues over Christian history, and Martin Luther reading the Book of James, notices the differences and wishes to literally remove it from the Bible as non-canonical because of its lack of conformity, despite it being material attributed to the leader of the early followers - James !
6. Paul emphasized that Jesus had died on the cross to atone for sins and was resurrected on the third day; a theology traceable back to Mithraism by the way. He mentions this resurrection as being spiritual 1 Corinthians 44-46; 2 Corinthians 5:16; also in 1 Peter 3:18 - but what is striking is that tradition mentioned in the Gospel of Luke 24:37-41 that Jesus returned after the crucifixion to his followers as a physical body - and not as a spirit - and eats fish to demonstrate this. This is contrary to Paul’s resurrection claim, and to interestingly shows a plausibility of Jesus demonstrating that he didn’t die on the cross and wasn’t in resurrected form.
7. The remnant beliefs of James’ following can be found in the early Jewish Christians also called Ebionites, can be preserved in Islamic teachings to have most correct basic facts about him. Other than the crucifixion (a miracle unbeknownst to anyone besides Jesus himself), it is Paul’s attachment of a significance to this via his Hellenistic background that prevails and shapes Christianity. Is it a coincidence that Islam resonates with an earlier more authoritative figure?
Maybe next time you can ask him on the relationship between Paul & James in relation to history, that should be interesting!
Allah is a father to no one. It does not matter in what sense you use son of God. Allah is not a father in any sense. As a Muslim can you say Isa is the son of Allah?
The early disciples believed that Jesus was crucified. So the disciples were Muslims and Allah made them believe in a falsehood?
So Bart believes the NT is more reliable than the Quran when it comes to history during that period?
The ebonites did not believe Jesus was born of a virgin. As a Muslim can you say Isa was not born of a virgin? They have many other believe that contradict Islam.
Also ebionites believe jesus was died on the cross
Jesus is God, Bible is God breathed. Jesus fulfilled all prophecies regarding His first coming and will surely fulfill all the prophecies for His second coming. We walk by faith, not by sight. Believe in Lord Jesus and be forgiven from sins and receive eternal life.
@Jamal Ramadan We put our faith in the evidence (The Bible)
@Jamal Ramadan If you Believe the universe and life was made by nothing and not a creator your the one who puts faith over evidence, Me testing the evidence is a reason I believe
@Jamal Ramadan Everyone has the right to believe what ever they want, however the evidence is not in Islam's favor
@Jamal Ramadan they can. But the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is Jesus Christ who came to this earth to die to give forgiveness of sins and to raise from the dead to give those who believe in Him hope of resurrection and eternal life.
@@raptureready519 and I could retort by saying the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and Jesus is Allah. That’s not evidence that’s making a claim
26:31 bert erhman said jesus wasn't know he will be crucified = Wrong. Isaiah wrote prophecies about the suffering of Jesus, also Jesus was came as a king riding a donkey, but he was rejected and was killed by the will of most jewish
@Jamal Ramadan Jesus doesn't create sin, but the first sin done by human was disobeying God's command.
@UCgs6DewwMz8YOLjmloTsR4Q actually His Hebrew name is Yeshua meaning "My (the LORD'S) salvation" and whenever the LORD's salvation is mentioned in scripture we see the Hebrew word - Yeshua or equivalent. So yeah, one can argue that the name Jesus (the Greek equivalent) is mentioned in the Old Testament.
More Dore Do you even bother to read how Judaism views Isaiah prophesies? The fact you are sure that it is about Jesus is comparable to the fact Muslims claiming Isaiah mentions Muhammad.
@@hyawill8944 give me one person name who already fullfiled isaiah prophecies in isaiah 53.
FYI, isaiah 53 are the most avoided chapter by jewish religious leader, because the story in there telling about Jesus Christ, my God, crucifixion and suffering.
Many people doubt Jesus Christ without even trying to reach Him through pray with faith
@@moredore5876 I won't give you one person. Because it doesn't have to be about one person. According to Jewish traditions it speaks about the nation, the Israel.
Lord Jesus is constantly saying the Son of man has to suffer and die and be raised on the third day and Bart is saying that Lord Jesus did not expect to be crucified? 🤣🤣🤣
yes thats what i was gong to say .. I wonder if Bart Ehrman is simply trolling everyone while some people take him really really seriously lol its hilarious
He thinks that those sayings of Jesus were later inventions.
@Jamal Ramadan Well, of course he did, that's the core theme of the gospels. Anyone, thinking otherwise is clearly missing the point.
Jesus knew he would be killed
Brilliant questions! You are an insightful interviewer, AP
i was waiting for this
Jesus is the truth , the way and the life. The Son of God , the word made flesh as through him all things are made.
The N.T. GOSPELS - Evidence of Author's & Dates Written
▪︎Matthew - A tax collector who became Jesus' apostle and wrote about the life of Jesus as the Messiah for the Jewish community c. 70 AD.
▪︎Mark - A Jew, and a companion of Peter and Paul, who wrote for both Jews and Gentiles about Christ's death and resurrection c. 65 AD.
▪︎Luke - A Gentile doctor, and a companion of Peter and Paul who wrote for the Gentiles about Christ the saviour for humankind.
▪︎Luke - also wrote the Acts of the Apostles c. 65 AD.
▪︎John - The 'beloved' apostle of Jesus, wrote in his later years about the Word who took on Flesh (John 1:1,14) c. 80-90 AD.
▪︎John - also wrote 3 Letters and The Book of Revelations c. 80-90 AD.
▪︎James - Jesus' half brother, wrote 1 letter c. 35 AD.
▪︎Paul - wrote 13 letters c.50 - 67 AD.
▪︎Jude - wrote 1 letter c. 65 AD.
▪︎Peter - wrote 2 letters c. 67 AD.
▪︎The author of The Letter to Hebrews is unknown c. 65 AD.
(Wikipedia)
▪︎Jesus Christ's' ministry occurred between 27-30 A.D.
▪︎Christianity began after the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ when thousands of Jews became followers of 'The Way' (Jesus).
▪︎The New Testament scholar, F.F. Bruce, gives strong historical evidence that the New Testament was completed by A.D. 100.
▪︎Most writings of the New Testament were completed twenty to forty years before 100 AD. (Wikipedia).
▪︎The apostles and their companions wrote the New Testament from their first-hand experiences with Jesus.
New Testament integrity is supported by historians, biblical and textual scholars, along with thousands of early codices, manuscripts and the Dead Sea Scrolls, proving the validity and preservation of the Gospels written between c. 35-90 A.D
(Eusebius, Church History 111. 39 .15; Irenaeus Against Heresies, 111.1)
INTERNAL Evidence:
▪︎The internal evidence supports these early dates for several reasons. The first three Gospels prophesied the fall of the Jerusalem Temple which occurred in A.D. 70. However, the fulfillment is not mentioned. It is strange that these three Gospels predict this major event but do not record it happening. Why do they not mention such an important prophetic milestone? The most plausible explanation is that it had not yet occurred at the time Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written.
▪︎In the book of Acts, the Temple plays a central role in the nation of Israel. Luke writes as if the Temple is an important part of Jewish life. He also ends Acts on a strange note: Paul living under house arrest.
It is strange that Luke does not record the death of his two chief characters, Peter and Paul. The most plausible reason for this is that Luke finished writing Acts before Peter and Paul's martyrdom in A.D. 64. A significant point to highlight is that the Gospel of Luke precedes Acts, further supporting the traditional dating of A.D. 60.
Most scholars agree Mark precedes Luke, making Mark's Gospel even earlier.
▪︎Finally, the majority of New Testament scholars believe that Paul's epistles are written from A.D. 48-60. Paul's outline of the life of Jesus matches that of the Gospels.
1 Corinthians is one of the least disputed books regarding its dating and Pauline authorship.
In 1Corinthians chapter 15, Paul summarizes the gospel and reinforces the premise that this is the same gospel preached by the apostles.
Paul quotes from Luke's Gospel in 1 Timothy 5:18, showing us that Luke's Gospel was indeed completed in Paul's lifetime. This would move the time of the completion of Luke's Gospel along with Mark and Matthew.
This Internal Evidence presents a strong case for the early dating of the Gospels.
EXTERNAL Evidence - Gospel Dates:
▪︎Were the Gospels written by eyewitnesses of the events, or were they not recorded until centuries later? As with the internal evidence, the external evidence also supports a first century date.
▪︎Fortunately, New Testament scholars have an enormous amount of ancient manuscript evidence. The documentary evidence for the New Testament far surpasses any other work of its time, with over 5000 manuscripts, and many are dated within a few years of their authors' lives.
KEY documents:
▪︎Chester Beatty Papyri contains most of the N.T. writings, and is dated around A.D. 250.
▪︎The Bodmer Papyri contains most of John, and dates to A.D. 200. ▪︎Rylands Papyri that was found in Egypt and contains large fragments of John, and dates to A.D. 130.
From this fragment we can conclude that John was completed well before A.D. 130 because, not only did the gospel have to be written, it had to be hand copied and make its way down from Greece to Egypt.
The majority of scholars agree that John is the last gospel written, so we can affirm its first century date along with the other three with greater assurance.
EARLY New Testament Papyrus Manuscripts:
▪︎Dead Sea Scrolls, the Full Text of Isaiah 53, c 250 BC.
▪︎Old Testament Greek Septuagint 200 BC.
▪︎P52 (John Rylands Fragment) - John 18:31-33; 37-38 c. 96 AD
▪︎P90 (Oxyrhynchus) - John 18:36; 19:7 c. 96 AD
▪︎ P104 (Oxyrhynchus) - Matthew 21:34-37, 43, 45 c. 60-65 AD
▪︎P46 (Chester Beatty Papyrus) - Romans 5:17-6; 5-14; 8:15-25; 27-35; 10:1-11, 22, 24-33, 35; 16:1-23; 25-27.
Hebrews; 1 & 2; Corinthians; Ephesians; Galatians; Philippians; Colossians; 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 9-10; 2:1-3; 5:5-9, 23-28 c. 50’s-70’s AD
▪︎P98 (IFAO) - Revelation 1:13; 2:1 c. 90 AD
▪︎P66 (Bodmer Papyrus) - John 1:1-6,11; 6:35; 14:26; fragment of 14:29; 21:9 c. 70’s AD
▪︎P67 Matthew 3:9, 15; 5:20-22; 25-28 c. 60-65 AD
▪︎Evidence also comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls Cave 7.
Jose Callahan discovered a large fragment of the Gospel of Mark and dated it to have been written in A.D. 50. Also large fragments of Acts and other epistles and dated them to have been written slightly after A.D. 50.4
Another line of evidence is the writings of the church fathers.
▪︎CLEMENT of Rome sent a letter to the Corinthian church in A.D. 95. in which he quoted from the Gospels and other portions of the N.T.
▪︎IGNATIUS, Bishop of Antioch, wrote a letter before his martyrdom in Rome in A.D. 115, quoting all the Gospels and other N.T. letters.
▪︎POLYCARP wrote to the Philippians in A.D. 120 and quoted from the Gospels and N.T. letters.
▪︎JUSTIN MARTYR, A.D. 150 quotes John 3. Church fathers of the early second century were familiar with the apostle's writings and quoted them as inspired Scripture.
▪︎Early dating is important for two reasons. The closer a historical record is to the date of the event, the more likely the record is accurate. Early dating allows for eyewitnesses to still be alive when the Gospels were circulating to attest to their accuracy.
The apostles often appeal to the witness of the hostile crowd, pointing to their knowledge of the facts as well (Acts 2:22, 26:26).
Also, the time is too short for legends to develop.
Historians agree it takes about two generations, or eighty years, for legendary accounts to establish themselves.
From the evidence, we can conclude the Gospels were indeed written by the authors they are attributed to.
THE First Fully Bound Bible Books/Codices
▪︎Codex Vaticanus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 280 - 330 AD
▪︎Codex Siniaticus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 300 - 350 AD
▪︎Codex Alexandrius: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 350 - 400 AD
▪︎Codex Vulgate: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 380 - 400 AD
JESUS and the Jews were multilingual
▪︎"Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross.
It read: 'JESUS Of NAZARETH, THE KING Of THE JEWS'.
Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek" (John 19:19-20)
▪︎The Gospels were written in Koine Greek being the World's language in the 1st century
The Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (Septuagint) c.200 BC for the many Greek speaking Jews
It is well known that first-century Jerusalem was inhabited by Greek speaking Jews who were at least bilingual. And Jesus most likely was trilingual apart from the ability to read minds.
So the original Gospels were written in Koine Greek and sent throughout the World..
▪︎Jewish culture was heavily influenced by Hellenistic culture, and Koine Greek was used not only for international communication but also as the first language of many Jews. This development was furthered by the fact that the largest Jewish community in the world lived in Ptolemaic Alexandria. (Wikipedia)
GOD Protects His Word:
▪︎"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!" (Galatians 1:8-9)
▪︎Jesus said, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away" (Matt 24:35)
▪︎God protects His Word the Gospels and warns of antichrists..
▪︎The Gospels are evidenced by internal and external historical, archeological & literary facts
▪︎The Gospels are unchanged and preserved over 2000 years and across all continents
▪︎The Gospels are reliable and transparent with any variations referenced in footnotes
▪︎The Gospels have 1000 times more manuscripts than the most documented ancient literature by Greco-Roman historian, Suetonius.
▪︎The Bible translations do have errors, Christians don't claim otherwise.
But Less than 1% of manuscript errors are meaningful and don’t affect the major teachings of the Christian faith.
Amen..
God Bless You..
Thanks for posting this and God bless from Scotland.
@@Rosshannah1695
You're welcome and may God Bless You.
The end 😂 Great video!
I think I might go to Dr. Ehrman's Christmas seminar. Thank you for sharing it with us, AP!
@@Alisalah_24 I don't agree with everything Dr. Ehrman says. Do you?
@Mansoor Ahmad Did you hear him say that the story in the Quran about Jesus giving life to the birds is from gnostic apocryphal literature and that Jesus was crucified?
Dr. Ehrman doesn't agree with Christianity or Islam, and I like him regardless of what he believes. I don't understand how you can watch this interview and conclude Dr. Ehrman's views support Islam. That would be like me saying he supports Christianity. It's just false.
@@__.Sara.__
What I noticed from you and other Christians is that they love and admire every belief (atheist, Buddhist, Jew, Hindu, Taoist, etc.) as long as it attacks Islam.
@@alrass100 Not true. Liking a person, like Dr. Ehrman, is different than admiring a belief system. I think Christianity is true, and I don't admire what I believe to be false.
All religions contradict, so they can't all be true at once. They could all be false, but not all true.
@@__.Sara.__
There are only two religions are worthy of the search. One is right and the other is wrong. They are Islam and Christianity. That is why Christian scholars avoid debating with Muslim scholars regarding the most important beliefs (theology, the validity of the Bible and the Qur’an and the validity of the prophethood of Muhammad). Therefore, Christians go to raise suspicions and doubts against Islam in an attempt to show Islam that it is a false religion. So that Christianity is right
I used to be an atheist, however the Power of the Holy Spirit touched me few years back without and preaching from anyone. I used to recall believing anything an expert atheist would say without doing the research myself, or believing random youtubers who debunk the reality of Jesus Christ by misreperestig, wether they do it intentionally or not. I pray for the conversion of the atheists of the world. By that way, I am not saying that someone who believes in Jesus is better than anyone else (I met some "interesting" Christians myself) however what I am saying is that once you walk the path of Light you can't go back to darkness. God bless you all.
What exactly happened that made you realise Christianity was true?
@@WintersunExtras a miracle (physical) occurred in the name of Christ in my life, didn't just occur to me but also various family members and friends, long story.
@@SF-ow5ru It's alright, I don't expect you to explain the whole story. The part that would interest me is the part where Christianity is reliably demonstrated to be true.
I'm highly skeptical of religious people who claim to be a former Atheists, they unfailingly show that their previous Atheism did not have a skeptical basis, and if it had then they wouldn't have become Christians. So I'd like to see if you're an exception to this.
touched you all of a sudden? I call that B$
@@SF-ow5ru
how did you know it was from Jesus and not fr Budha or from zradicht?
A more honest and factual summary of what Bart Erhman said:
1. Bart Erhman agrees that the Quran is perfectly preserved and that the bible has thousands of differences. Some of which can affect the understanding of a passage, book or of the entire New Testament. Bart believes that a book being perfectly preserved doesn’t prove that it is true, but this is what you would expect an atheist to say. Or else he would already have converted to islam. Conclusion: The Quran is perfectly preserved and the bible isn’t just like what islam teaches.
2. As Bart Ehrman said in that time the majority of the people couldn’t read or write and were a oral people, so Jesus (pbuh) would have conveyed his teachings/book orally. This is similar to the Quran to a certain extent. The Quran was already written in the time of the prophet, but was not yet compiled in to a single book. This happened 1-2 years after the death of the prophet.
3. Barth Erhman says that there is some (possible) accurate parts in the bible but there are also many made up stories in the bible and that’s exactly what islam teaches.
4. Ofcourse Bart Erhman would reject those stories because he is an atheist, he also rejects the virgin birth of Jesus pbuh which both Christians and muslims believe in.
5. Bart Erhman affirms that he is an atheist and says that jesus pbuh according to historical evidence was crucified and also says that there was a Christian teacher in the second century that taught that somebody else was crucified instead of Jesus pbuh.
6. Bart Ehrman says that there are some elemental truths in that historically and some things he would consider problems. Basically during the life time of Jesus pbuh he and his followers viewed Jesus pbuh as a human prophet and they only worshiped one God (no trinity) but after the (so called) resurrection people started worshipping Jesus pbuh as god not as the only true God, but as a lesser god. Bart Erhman also refutes John 1:1 and says that early Christians did not believe that Jesus pbuh was pre-existing as god.
7. Christians later corrupted the meaning of Son of God, what a surprise. In early Christianity Son of God referred to someone who was in a close relationship with God and through whom God mediated his will. In other words a prophet of God. The king of Israel was also called Son of God.
8. Bart Erhman says that there were some gospels that were written earlier than the 4 gospels, but they don’t exist anymore.
9. 6 of the 13 epistles written by Paul are now doubted by the scholars. These scholars believe that 6 of those epistles were written by unknown persons claiming to be Paul. Bart Erhman agrees with those scholars, which again proves how unreliable the bible is.
10. Islam teaches that there are some things in the bible that can be true and we muslims can accept, but we don’t rely on the bible.
11. Before the fourth century there were many different view of what was true Christianity there was also different gospels, this was rooted out by emperor Constantine when he became a Christian. He established Christianity as how we know it now. Around this time it was also decided which books to keep in the bible and which should be thrown out. Even after this there were still difference among Christians until this day.
12. According to Bart Erhman Jesus pbuh did not predict prophet Muhammed pbuh, but also according to Bart Erhman Jesus pbuh did not expect to be crucified which already refutes a lot of the teachings of Christianity.
13. Bart Erhman says that he is not equipped to give the details of Muhammed pbuh, So he can’t give an answer to it.
Good points..
Lies lies lies
Yes he did, even if this person is atheist saying Jesus has more validity than mo.
Why is Bart Herman given so much of importance??? He neither knows the Bible nor does he know the Quran. He just rants as he pleases 😃😃
Bart Ehrmann needs to learn about the 37 diffrent qurans XD
I mean, he didn't say it wrong, Muslims have been faithful copying their 37 qurans and call it one. XD
According to Muslims. 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1......equals one. They have 37 different Arabic Qurans, but that equals one perfectly preserved Quran. 🤣🤣🤣
Thats what I was thinking. He should listen to Hatun Tash's channel.
How can he! They don't exist.!🤥
Exactly. How could he make this claim with obviously zero research.
That awkward moment when Muslim apologists realize Bart provides more evidence for the historical Jesus than the Muslim version of Jesus.
@Isaac13 Abraham It's important to note that Jesus knew He was going to suffer in Jerusalem and predicted His own death. (Matthew 16:21-23, Mark 8:31-32, and Luke 9:21-22, Matthew 17:22-23, Mark 9:30-32, and Luke 9:43-45, Matthew 20:17-19, Mark 10:32-34, and Luke 18:31-34)
You have misinterpreted the words 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'. In fact, this statement from Jesus originated from his immense love for men and His realization that despite His suffering and sacrifice, that God's justice deprived Him of the
salvation of the reprobate and the redemption of their souls. The same can be said with Jesus' statement 'I thirst'; as much as Jesus certainly had a physical thirst, He was referring to a 'thirst' for the salvation of souls.
God never abandoned Jesus, as He manifested Himself through the stirring of all Creation (resuscitating the dead, thunder, earthquakes, splitting of the Temple veil, etc etc)
@@michelpapineau8868 When Jesus said: “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” He was referring to Psalm 22, which is a Messianic psalm in which the Messiah would be crushed, this comes true on the cross
That there are more historical evidence that Jesus existed than Muhhamad existed. LOL
@Isaac13 Abraham
You say that, but your so-called holy books claim He wasn't crucified. So which is it?
@@wandering_circles7487 David Wood from Acts17Apologetics actively speculates if Muhammad did even exist or if he is just a construct of OPEC XD
Can you please ask Bart Ehrman if shooting stars are actually missiles sent by God to keep demons out of heaven? I have always wondered what the scholarly consensus is on this.
Or whether God Jesus parted the sea....
@Jesus Or Muhammad
No idea Mate...
Good question to ask Muslims....
Also we could ask Muslims and Bart to comment on how a baby comes from a virgin?
They don't even have answer, why Moses/Musa brought out Jews from Egypt to Al Qud. Why to Al Qud (present Israel)?
Why not to any other nearby places?
@Jesus Or Muhammad
Or you can explain why do bible say earth is flat, stars live like humans and sometimes fall on earth 😉😁
Excellent interview. I’ve been watching Dr. Ehrman debates lately and was excited to see this on your channel.
Ehrman lost me at these two absurd assertions; first: hundreds of thousands of differences in the New Testament and no, saying most are completely insignificant does help the hundreds of thousands claim which is simply not true. Second: The Koran has been faithfully copied for many many centuries. Then why are there so many versions? I wouldn't expect this guy to give me the correct time, let alone tell me what the best watch is.
Yet there is so much confusion with which version of the bible is true, how any books should be included in the entire bible etc. These are huge questions within Christiandom in the first 2-3 centuries
Yeah Bart shouldn’t be talking about the so-called preservation of the Koran at all cuz it’s evident that he’s just repeating Muslim lies, even though Islamic sources disprove this notion.
Yes, Ehrman is an idiot supreme...with a facade of scholarship, probably arrived at by smoking weed. Should be known as Bart Simpson ErrorMan.
I caught these 2 points from Bart Erhman too... we think alike lolz
@@TheKingEternal_1 How does Islamic sources disprove what?
Loved this. Probably my favourite thing you have done so far. Great guest and your interview questions were fantastic!
You covered so much in half an hour. Well done.
👍☺️
Bart just disproved Christianity.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@livinia296 and he tell to follow what😅😅
@@livinia296 how come bart ehrman clearly stated that Jesus Christ was crucified and also his disciples believed in his divinity after his resurrection.......how come it will destroy Christanity?
@@james-yf9wm Yes!! Someone was cruxified on the cross but it wasn't Jesus. Allah saved Jesus from cruxifiction and raised him up to the heavens.
Qur'an 4:157-158
"It was made to appear to them so"
You do realise Bart just laid waste to Christianity and confirmed the basic understandings of Islam right? That at the time nobody thought of Jesus (peace be upon him) devine and just a Prophet? And confirmed the preservation of the Qur'an and corruption of the Bible?
What exactly are you do "please" of from this? It's incredibly embarrassing!
Your new look is really amazing , looks very energetic and attractive 👍
Well thank you
but how did you know
I'm sure you are verry pretty too
As a Muslim I want to thank APUS for bringing bart ehrman lol
ha,ahaaa El hamdulillahi BRO.
Awesome interview, love this guy. What a funny way to bring his points over, made me laugh out loud multiple times. 😄
*Many thanks of gratitude for doing this AP.* 👍🏻 *Wishing you and your lovely family 👪 a wonderful Thanksgiving!* 🦃🤤🦃
@@Alisalah_24 Christians also believe in one God. When have Christians ever confessed to having 3 separate Gods? The Quran gives a false story of misinformation and exposes it's deities ignorance towards our faith. You're running off an incorrect assumption made by your God in his book. Btw, this gentleman isn't God - He's an apostate. And, Christians actually let him live to spread his opinions! Good thing he's not an apostate from Islam, if you know what I mean! Btw, he also believes with 100% certainty that Jesus Christ was crucified which Muslims (not the Quran) denies. The Quran actually affirms the crucifixion.
@@Alisalah_24 bart ehrman clearly stated that all the disciples of Jesus Christ believed in his resurrection and also they considered him as divine son of God......so it proved that Jesus Christ is not muslim.
@@seanavp
Christains believe to one God😂🤦
Trinity is a complete copy of roman paganism
@@amin3099 *There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim against Christianity.*
Praise you Lord Jesus. ,💜have mercy on the people that don't know you. In your mighty name.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amen
Amen..its the matter of the heart
Jesus the lord is a myth, can’t believe people follow such mythical lies. 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂
@@hbrotha1866 then prove your point
Broooo!!!! its always night in India when you post videos...your majority fans are from here....it's really hard to use mobile at night in desi household 🥺🙂
India is actually number 2. America is number 1 by viewership. I'm also here, so I publish it at times that are most comfortable for me.
It's just 11:30 in India it's not really midnight
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Definitely JESUS could read and write
In John 8
At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.(B) 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women.(C) Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap,(D) in order to have a basis for accusing him.(E)
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone(F) at her.”(G) 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
👉Verse 6 especially shows he can Write
That interview defo hurt apostate,
The recent interviews on this channel have been very interesting and informative. It's much appreciated!
LOL… The Quran says people of the time claimed Jesus was crucified… Can’t you see the holes in the tennis racket???!
This all video is to troll naives who do not understand anything about the subject?
As a muslim, I have absolutely no problem with what this interview "exposes". Thanks AP, I will continue using Bart Ehrman as proof against Christianity :)
Absolutely... I've got more positive ammo now and more certainty that Christianity is more problematic and man made than I ever expected looooooool
@@froggy8301 LOL right?!
They think that “additions” to the text doesn’t make the text corrupted. I was crying of laughter.
Best parts:
“The Qur’an has been faithfully copied”
“There are stories in the gospels that are most certainly made up.”
“The earliest followers of Jesus thought he was a human and that he worshipped 1 God.”
“Son of god is used for various beings, humans, representatives of God on earth.”
“6 of Pauls writings are doubted by scholars.”
“In the earliest centuries there’s a lot of diversity within Christianity.”
“There were a lot of controversial views floating around in the first 2 centuries.”
Pure GOLD
They think we think that the Injil was a written book… poor AP, all of these refutations and solid knowledge from a practising ex-muslim and still no understanding about what muslims actually believe. Miskeen
@@axis2312 I was just noting down most of the above, Jzk brv you saved me time! lol
What amazes me is how gullible these minions are taking this A Puss as some kind of an academic saviour loool. I love the bit where Bart Ernham says he's just not qualified enough to speak about Islam, loooooooooooool
@@froggy8301 He literally thinks this interview showed us something we didn’t know LOL! How can someone be so blind? I just feel sorry for him, all of this hate is a cry for help. I think he’s lost. The problem is I think he knows Islam in true. There isn’t anything that hasn’t been explained to him using logic. I heard him say once “if God knew I would be like this, then why would he condemn me to hellfire?” All the while knowing that he has the free will to change his mind and his ways. I hope he comes back to his senses, because this interview was an epic fail and all of his arguments have been addressed. Anyyyyway. Salam brother :)
@@axis2312 hear hear! WalaiukumAsalam 🤲🏼🙏🏼
I love the laughter of the Dr.
Jesus was the first documented person to be called a Rabbi.
“Probably couldn’t read” lol
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue
Luke 4:14-22
Esv
Jesus Begins His Ministry
14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor.
(AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind,
(AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
Clicking on this video brought up an add for donating to Muslim causes...how ironic. I appreciate the content AP. I hope that you come to Christ one day.
Finally muslims will stop quoting Bart Ehrman.
Its funny how all the Abduls in the comment section are changing their tune now about Bart Erhman. " We never used Bart Erhman to prove Islam right, we just used him to show the Bible was corrupted. Even tho he said numerous times that the textual variants within the New Testament have zero affect on Christian doctrine. Its amazing how these Abduls mind work. They are completely delusional just like their prophet lol.
Wow! Not only does Joseph smith and Muhammad have so many things in common and it was so funny to hear that Mormons use him as well hahaha! Hey, thanks for sharing this info man. Really appreciate it AP
I like to trigger Muslims online saying that the last true prophet was Joseph Smith and he also was given a holy book.
@@Dan_Capone hahahahahahaha!! Awesome! I feel like he stole from Muhammad’s play book and it worked man haha
All what author of the Qur'an bring up to the people is made up/ apocryphal manmade stories with information from the New/ Old testament that circulated in his region, while remade in the oriental manner, missing the most important details, because the author of the Kur'ana simply did not know about them. Even the way of praying was borrowed from Zoroastrianism🤦🏼
Author (authors) of the Qur'an just appropriated all of that just to legitimate a new religion. Author of the Qur'an didn't even understand what the Gospel was lol, not even speaking about funniest and crazy Qur'an's understanding of trinity🤦🏼 Isa, Mary and Allah🗿🗿
Yep, both believed that should have multiple wives and sleep with children. What is it with these false prophets? almost as if they are afflicted with unclean spirits!
@@haljordan9607 hahahaha! Very true. My best friend was about to be a Muslim which is why I got interested to help him because even before looking into it, I knew it was all stolen from Jews, Christians and then found out what you mentioned in your comment once I actually did research. Muhammad basically just tried to make everyone around him comfortable with converting because Islam included pieces of Christian and Jewish and pagan practices, prophets and beliefs. Really glad he didn’t convert
19:20 in Philippines 2 Paul quotes from an early Christian hymn which says that Jesus preexisted as God but took on the form of a servant. To say the deity of Christ is something that formed over time is an assertion without any evidence.
ALL HAIL KING JESUS!!! OUR LORD AND GOD!!!
Amen!
The plural of Jesus is Jesusai, some people like to say Jesuses, but those people are wrong.
So Jesus is a Muslim who worshipped Allah as his creator. ... and his prayers were answered to be saved from crucifixion...
Nice
Talk about hearing only what you want to hear.
Looking snazzy ap!
Congratulations on scoring this interview!
It's a kick in the teeth to Christians.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@livinia296 Sorry to pop your ignorant bubble, but Bart Erhman is just repeating what Biblical Scholars (most of whom are Christians) have long known, and which the vast majority of Christians (Catholic, Orthodox & liberal Protestants) accept with no problem at all. It's only wacky Protestant Fundamentalists who are threatened by it. In fact, Erhman's own loss of faith had nothing to do with his Biblical scholarship, but with his struggle dealing with the Problem of Evil.
Jesus was writing in a sand when Mary Magdalen was brought to him.At twelve he was teaching in a temple he called his father house.So Bart got facts wrong.
Yeah, he said several things that I probably could correct. This is my first time hearing him and I already don't rate him.
Jesus read the scroll of the prophet Isaiah in a synagogue
Luke 4:14-22
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Jesus Begins His Ministry
14 (Z)And Jesus returned (AA)in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and (AB)a report about him went out through all the surrounding country. 15 And (AC)he taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
Jesus Rejected at Nazareth
16 (AD)And he came to (AE)Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And (AF)as was his custom, (AG)he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and he stood up (AH)to read. 17 And (AI)the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
18 (AJ)“The Spirit of the Lord (AK)is upon me,
because he has anointed me
to (AL)proclaim good news to the poor.
(AM)He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives
and (AN)recovering of sight to the blind,
(AO)to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
19 (AP)to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and (AQ)sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were (AR)fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today (AS)this Scripture (AT)has been fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 And all spoke well of him and marveled at (AU)the gracious words that were coming from his mouth. And they said, (AV)“Is not this (AW)Joseph's son?”
He say the disciples couldnt read but he forgot that Matthew was a tax collector, Luke was a Doctor and Paul was a Lawyer
where does it say that Paul was a lawyer
@@FriendwithNoName7 he was a tent maker. All Jewish Rabbis had a skill they could use to support themselves
Jesus gave me the power to avoid unwanted things,He is worthy to be praise💪
@@satellitekhan2300 Don't forget that Bart is not the supreme wisdom: he is a scholar amongst many others and he may be wrong about some subjects.
@@satellitekhan2300 We cannot know what Jesus really taught and believed because he didn't write anything. What Bart claims, and he may be right, is that the 4 canonical gospels may have been in a certain way distorted, based on the assumption that oral traditions have tendency to be somehow distorted and the 4 canonical christians gospels are based in oral traditions. But , this said, there's no clear proof on that issue.
Moreover the quran has also some material collected from the apochryphal christian gospels and these are much less accurate than the 4 canonical gospels because they were written much later.
@@satellitekhan2300 Apochryphal christian books are not part of the Bible, are spurious texts rejected by mainstream christianity. The very idea that Jesus wasn't crucified is found in gnostic christian writings like those of Basilides and Valentinus; Bart made reference to that in this video. So, it is clear that the quran lacks of originality. So, I didn't said that the quran was copied from the bible. Actually it is more complex than that.
And let me tell you that the quran cannot correct the Bible, cause his author doesn't really know the Bible, but just a few of its contents.
And Muhammad had friends like Waraqa ibn Naufal, the christian elder, Salman the persian who teach him zoroastric contents and even Mary the coptic, his wife, by whom he had access to some apocryphal gospels.
To say that the quran resembles the bible, because it came from God it is just a matter of belief that nobody can prove. It is like if you say that the bible is the word of God. It is purely subjective.
@@satellitekhan2300 You should laugh of your statements .Waraqa was a relative of Khadija as you said but Muhammed met him personally and talked to him in many occasions and likely was instructed by him.
The aledged illiteracy of Muhammed is part of the muslim legend about him, and probably is not accurate. And even if he was illiterate he certainly had ears, eyes and intelect to understand what people say.
Concerning Noah and the story of the flood it was borrowed from the Gilgamesh epics. So, both the Bible and the Quran were inspired by ancient legends.
I have nothing to learn from you, because your cultural level is irrelevant to me.
Fundamentalists like you use to be arrogant. I'm not here to be educated by you. If you have vocation to teach go and teach your fellow muslims and spare me to your arrogance.
Talibans, Daesh and others call themselves true muslims, because they know they pratice fully Islam including slavery of women, amongst other inhuman and barbaric practices. I'm convinced the world would be a better place without Islam. If there are good people amongst muslims it is despite Islam and not because of Islam.
@@satellitekhan2300 as per your claim, he also confirmed that Jesus was crucified which you don't believe and contradict the fact that all Muslim's view is destroyed in matter of seconds. ☺️
Great talk! Love both of You
@Mansoor Ahmad Bart confirms Jesus was crucified. you forgot to add that.
He also said that the virgin birth was a legend, you forgot to add that.
And then you lied that the letters of Paul are misinformation. At this point I doubt u can. actually listen to a conversation carefully.
Saying people doubt the authorship of a document doesn't mean the information in it is false.
Yet you didn't mention that there indisputable fact that Paul wrote some of this.
Wait so Ehrman being a scholar in Christianity believes that Jesus didn't believe he was God and his followers didn't believe he was God which is contrary to the dominant belief. But Ehrman doesn't find it surprising that a 7th century Arab believed that even though it was contrary to the dominant belief in 7th century Arabia?
So a man in the middle of the desert in the 7th century with very little resources was right about something you as a scholar in the 21st century concluded to be true using all the resources available in the 21st century and you don't find that surprising?
Christianity is much better than Islam
You need to compare 1st century Christianity to 7th century Islam.
Islam was initially a warrior cult, while Christianitys core message revolved around salvation.
@k. it’s not going to happen because it’s not politically correct to challenge Islam. Whenever you try to raise genuine issues, annoying leftists and Muslims will just scream “ISLAMOPHOBE” until you shut up.
@k. secularists aren’t going to force anything though. It has to be an internal change. You’re wrong secularists didn’t force Christianity to change during the industrial revolution idk where u got that from. Christianity started to change after the Protestant reformation. After people started reading the Bible for themselves they realized how much the church was abusing their authority so the church was forced to reform. The difference with Islam is that Muslim countries are not abusing their authority as sharia law is in accordance with Quran and Hadith. So there will never be a widespread enlightenment within Islam
@k. of course when I say the Protestant reformation I don’t mean it happened overnight. It was a process. My point is there would be no secularism without the Protestant reformation. It set the precedent for the age of enlightenment
@k. an Islamic enlightenment is necessary to fully secularize the Muslim world but like I said that can’t happen because honest Muslims know that Islam permits what goes on in countries like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Thank you very much for this interview. The clarity that Dr Ehrman brought to the issues you raised should make people who might otherwise blindly accept the standard Islamic narrative of Christ think again. You provide a great service to the community.
@Jamal Ramadan Christians say "Christianity" is "true" -- which means the particular creed each person identifying as "Christian" believes in. I would say a more important question is, "does believing in any religion matter?"
As a Muslim I’m happy with this interview lol it’s hilarious watching him tear up Christianity
@Jamal Ramadan Hello, Jamal. As Dr Ehrman said, he's an atheist (as am I), so clearly he doesn't think that Christianity is true, though the New Testament carries true indications of how people thought about Jesus in the first hundred years. I also have no doubt that that the representation of Jesus in the Muslim tradition is historically unsupportable.
@@dragonofchaos7843 Hello there. As an atheist trained in historical research, I suspect that Dr Ehrman's comments should also indicate to Muslims that they cannot be confident that the figure of Jesus as a prophet, as reported in Muslim texts, has a firm basis. Best wishes .
@@haroldwood1394 our belief in Jesus and who he was doesn’t stem from historical records the history surrounding Jesus is all unreliable flimsy to say the least
This might not be a video with a lot of views, but for me learning about Bart Ehrman was very interesting, love his debates especially about suffering. Thank you for introducing him!
Two secret christians discussing Jesus
How is Bart Christian when he disagrees with many things in Christianity?
AP and Bart seem to be quite alike. Both of them criticize their ex religion vigorously. I hope AP turns out to be a textual critic like Bart ❤️
#Allah said Jesus was not crucified
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝗵𝗶𝗺; 𝗯𝘂𝘁 [𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿] 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗺 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺.And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻.
Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise)
🎵 Ehrman said that it was okay
Ehrman said that it was quite alright 🎵
I enjoyed watching that and found it quite entertaining! What disappointed me most, was not Bart's distortion of the Christian message, but his clever way of avoiding saying anything contrary to Islam or the Quran, even though he will be well aware of the fabrications of both! My "take away" from this is that Bart is more concerned about avoiding any 'trouble' with Muslims, than he is about giving an honest educated opinion about Islam and the Quran, however much predicated with a disclaimer of "I'm not an expert in Islam or the Quran". He could have given an educated opinion on for instance the difference between Jesus's teachings and message, from that found in the Quran, or the differences between the documented Jesus and the documented Mohammed....but he avoided doing so, because he wanted to remove himself from any criticism for giving such an opinion. Where he did give an opinion, these were so carefully crafted as to not contradict anything Islamic, that his opinions on this were virtually USELESS! - I think Bart should have been a Politician as with his Diplomatic skills, he would have excelled in any TV or Press interview, with these tactics!
Yes, he avoided criticize Islam - its cowardly, but it can be lethal to talk bad about Mohammedanism in contrast to criticize Christianity. As Agnostic I respect peaceful religions like Christianity or Buddhism that contains much wisdom. Mohammedanism should be erased by all means.
You are listening!!!!! 👌👌👌👌👌
Lot of these air heads Christians commenting didn't even notice bart just disproved Christianity.
@@livinia296 The one to speak first seems right until someone comes forward and questions them.
@@jessek9675 He can't criticize Islam. Its the truth!!!😂
@@livinia296 Bart Ehrman didn't "disprove" Christianity - he disproved Islam! You see, the Quran claims that Jesus wasn't crucified, but Bart Ehrman has said this is wrong and fabrication. According to Muslims, if even one thing is wrong in the Quran or a contradiction, the whole Quran is wrong and cannot be from God. Bart Ehrman has confirmed that the Quran is in error in Surah 4:157, as I have long known.
Such an AMAZING interview! It confirms many things that I found when I was learning before I left Christianity. Greetings from an ex-Christian and an ex-Muslim from Poland ❤️
The Parable of the wicked Tenants
There was a landowner who planted a vineyard in a land,He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place. When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit (Matthew 21:33-34)
.The tenants seized his servants;and land owner send so many servants to the land but they beat one, killed another, and stoned another one, Last of all, he sent his one and only son to them. "They will respect my son," he said (Matthew 21:35-37).
But when the tenants saw son, they said to each other, "This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance." So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
Then Jesus asked in , “What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”
Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the scriptures:
‘The very stone which the builders rejected(son=Jesus) has become the corner stone, Lord’s doing,and it is marvelous in our eyes’?Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it.”[a]
These are the main character of the parable
The landowner - represents God(father )
The vineyard - His Kingdom (Israel)
The tenants - specifically Israel’s religious leaders and all who reject Him(jews)
The servants - God’s prophets and faithful believers
The beloved son - Jesus Christ
New tenants- Gentiles, christians
These are Jesus statements
1:iam the way truth and life no one come father except through me
2:everything father does son does
3:everything fathers hand is mine
4:all authority in heaven and earth given to me
5:if you seen me see father
6:before Abraham was iam
7:i and father are one
Bro use the mention statements and connected with the character
1:You can reach father only through son not servants
2:everything father does son does not servant, only father can forgive and son Jesus forgive sins
3:everything father hand is owned by son not servants
4:all authority of father belongs to son not servants
5:you can see father only through son not servants
Jesus Christ is the corner stone of christanity
1:Paul writes in 1st Corinthians 3:9a, "For we are God's fellow workers, you are God's field, you are God's building." Jesus being the Chief Cornerstone of our faith brings unity to the body of Christ.
2:Acts 4:10-12
let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead-by this name this man stands here before you in good health. He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief corner stone. And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
3:Ephesians 2:20-22
having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit
@Jamal Ramadan Christian first
I don't believe you was a muslimah tbh
Lol. Ex-Muslim. I think u just being provocative n trying to get reaction. If u were truly Muslim, u would not leave. Nobody leaves truth for falsehood, and if you knew true Islam, then theres definitely no going back.
May Allah almighty expose n guide you to the truth.
Peace n blessings.
@@joedeen3603 because of the fear what might happen ?🤣
Jesus was a Rabbi. Have you ever heard of a Rabbi that could not read Hebrew? If there is a passage about Jesus reading, then what is the problem?
I love bart laughting, he reminds me alot of risitas lmao!.
Can you watch the lectures after the fact or are they livestream/in person only?
They are recorded. You can watch them afterwards.
@@ApostateProphet Thank you for the response.
Keep up the good work!
@@Alisalah_24 and this is why Muslims never learn
@@Alisalah_24
And he also said , mostly mormon n Abdoolism whose use his opinion to attack christianity .. wow what a coincidence 😂😂
@@ApostateProphet Just saw you interviewing Ert Bartman the most confused christian turned into an atheist because of a lots of readings.
Because of the presence of Satan and his demons in human life the real truth of Christianity and who is Jesus got distorted.
In the 2nd century wrong belief went out from certain people that resulted in 2 breakup churches.
One kept the faith and the other manufactured gossip that resulted in Catholicism and then the islam.
Catholicism and Islam is the same thing that put forth lies by force.And that resulted in your problem and ert bartman's problem to be confused.
Why then muhammad called Jesus the Kalam (Paigam of God) or kalimatullah.
And also RoohAllah meaning the Eternal life of God? That makes him God!!!
Then in another place muhammad wrote that Jesus is just a paigambar and not Paigam or kalam or message of God.
Messenger and message are 2 different things and separate in kind.
Messenger only delivers the message.
The God of Israel became Man.John: 1: 1-14 here Jesus being the Word kalam and creator became Man the message and choose the messenger John the baptist to introduce him to the people Israel.Just like the Prophet of old brought the word of the Lord to the people and were carriers.
Muhammad was a false carriers.He just connected to the christianity railway tract a cross over line to a another tract called islam by hatred.That resulted in eternal death tract.
Today there are 2 types of christianity,the real and the false one.
Dont forget that muhammad's first inlaws were catholics and the making of islam was intentional to destroy the real christianity.
It still exists today. And you will find there the mighty miracles are still happening,the lame walking the blind are seeing the dead being raised to life in the 21st century just as Jesus promised them that he would do this through them.
If you want to see this true church then answer me on this platform.I will send you the link.
It’s crazy that AP is doing God’s work by disproving Islam constantly while AP still is an atheist. Goes to show God can use anyone he wills. Hopefully in Jesus name he comes to accept the truth of the gospel.
I do not know of a Single Christian who would take Bart seriously as a theology scholar more of a historian . He is more for Non Christians.
lol he destroys all your christian apologists christianity is a dead religion in the west anyway.
@@user-pw2gg6py1g Really.. 🤔.. So Christianity was the truth when there was 12.. 1 more follower is a positive 👍🏼
I respect Dr.Ehram's knowledge of the gospel. but I don't understand when he says at 26:38 when he says that Jesus didn't expect to get crucified contradicts that Jesus foretold him to go to Jerusalem and the Chief priest would get a hold of him and hand over to be killed and be raised again which is reported in all 4 gospels. Luke 13:33; Matthew 16:21; Matthew 17:22; Mark 8:31
I wonder how he came to that conclusion?
He thinks that those sayings of Jesus were later inventions.
And also in 1 Corinthians (which is he oldest dated book of the New Testament), Paul says that Jesus was crucified ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES. That means the Christian belief at the time of 1st Corinthians was not just that Jesus was crucified, but that this crucifixion was foretold in the Old Testament already written, yet he says he doesn't believe Jesus knew He would be crucified.
Bart Ehrman says foolish things like this all the time, and if you put him under scrutiny, he won't defend his wacky claims.
@@donnyjones5600 I love how your evidence of a religion is the religion itself.😂😂 you are the same as Muslims
@@Lovethyself887 Bart Ehrman is asserting that Jesus Himself didn't know that He would be crucified BECAUSE he thinks all references to Jesus having knowledge of this are later additions to the Gospels. 1 Corinthians is the oldest dated book in the New Testament predating all four Gospels BY ATHEIST SCHOLARS, this is THEIR consensus on my religion. And in 1st Corinthians, Paul says that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures. The whole point is that if the Christians during the writings of the oldest dated book of the New Testament believed that Jesus' crucifixion was according to the Old Testament Scriptures that proceeded Him and foretold the suffering of the Christ, and the entering into His glory, on what foundation is Bart Ehrman now saying this was a later addition to Christianity?
You're just an atheist repeating talking points you've been indoctrinated with, follow the argument logically next time, or don't comment.
@@Lovethyself887 if you don't know lol Bart Ehram is a new testament scholar and he says Gospels are mostly accurate. so you put 2 and 2 together.
Difference between Islam and Christian: U Will not find any christian who would call Bart names, such as he was never a Christian. But is when a person leaves Islam and speak up, Muslims would call him/ her names. They'd say "he was never a true Muslim
Disagree with Bart that Jesus was expecting for God to set up his kingdom on the earth during his lifetime. If Jesus’ words are accurate, he was quoted as saying, “my kingdom is not of this world, else would my followers fight.”
AP: if the book is flawed, it does not matter whether it is preserved or not...
Me: Agreed.....the flaw has been preserved for centuries
The whole cool house with rivers of wine sounds good, but the prerequisite for entry into the contest is beyond my price range.
Jesus was prophesied in the Old Testament and
fulfilment of the Old Testament
CORRECTION OF MY MISTAKE JESUS WAS PROPHESIED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND FULFILLED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT🙏