Hi everyone! Hope all of you have enjoyed the video. This post will maintain a list of corrections regarding class mechanics and a glossary of useful terms I didn’t go over in the video. If something more needs to be added please make a new comment with that information. I get a ton of notifications for replies and simply cannot monitor them. Thanks for all the feedback! Base Attack Bonus (BAB) is your character’s ability to hit without any modifiers. When you attack, this number will be added to your attack roll along with whatever bonuses your character has. The rate at which this number increases depends on your class. Every time you gain six ranks in this stat, BAB will also allow you to do an extra attack. These additional attacks will each add a smaller portion of your BAB to your attack roll than your first attack. Combat Maneuver Defense (CMD) is the number to determine your ability to resist being tripped, disarmed, shoved, or a similar effect when enemies will use their Combat Maneuver Bonus (CMB) against you. This rarely happens in the game so it’s only something to focus on if you are using a class that heavily makes use of the stat. Damage Resistance (DR) is how many points of damage are ignored when an enemy successfully hits you with a physical attack. Some enemies have Damage Resistance that can only be bypassed by weapons of a certain type such as Good aligned or Cold Iron weapons. A weapon’s enhancement bonus can also sometimes bypass the DR requirement. Competence and Dodge bonuses stack. Most other types of bonuses do not. Azata: Has spells that can reset lower level spells/abilities. Some classes can make great use of this. Bard: At level 1 Bards can use Bardic Performance for a number of rounds per day equal to 4 + their Charisma modifier. They steadily gain more Bardic Performance rounds as they level up. Cleric: If you use this class with Lich keep in mind that some late level buffs like Legendary Proportions and Heroic Invocation will not work on undead party members. Inquisitor: Despite Bane’s description it doesn’t require you to designate specific enemies. The ability just provides a flat damage bonus against all creatures. Kineticist: Gold Dragon spell damage increases currently do not apply to blasts. This issue was addressed earlier in the year but appears to be broken again. Not clear if that’s because Dev’s don’t want it to apply to blasts.
Finally a list of all the classes and their mechanics that isn’t still from Beta, also love the mythic paths synergy. Basically everything I need as a latecomer to the game to catch up and be less overwhelmed but the long class lists. Thanks a million :) Btw would be nice if the transition from one class to the next had a little “gap”. Just a noticeable pause or something before you start the next one.
Woah, this came outta nowhere - what an absolutely incredible surprise! I desperately wish I'd had a video like this when I was taking my first steps into Pathfinder. The other videos I found were all literally just reading what was on the screen out loud with absolutely no analysis or explanation about what the class is really like. What an incredible project to have worked on, well done and thanks so much!
You, sir, are an absolute content creation beast! Never change 😄 I just finished this video last night after watching it piecemeal over the past week, and I was continuously blown away by the amount of effort you put into this! Once any of my premiere pro projects build up a large enough cache that the preview starts taking 20 seconds or more to render, that's where I call it a day, but to edit a video this size must have taken weeks of long nights to get done, and for that effort I give my thanks!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support. This is the first video I have made that I did not enjoy creating. It took SUCH a long time and was such an intensive process that pretty much brought my channel to a halt. If I do something like that again I have to figure out a better way to make the video in the flow of everything else I want to do. Still I am very happy with how it came out and appreciate the feedback from the community.
Aight, I'm watching this whole video while the game downloads I got to say, I REALLY admire that you repeat yourself when a feature appears in more than one class (describing teamwork feats for example). You really accounted for people skipping through the video to their desired class by doing so.
Words cannot describe how much I appreciate this. I love this game, and CRPGs in general, but I simply don't have the time to go and playtest everything to see what's worthy of a fully playthrough. Your channel have been a constant source of good info and I appreciate it. Keep up the good work bro
I discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago and it motivated me to give WOTR another playthrough (beat it first time with Damphir Blood Kineticist Lich - not knowing what I was doing). I've decided to do a playthrough as each of the race specific classes and hopefully choosing a good corresponding mythic path. Your videos were essential in helping me make my decisions. I appreciate you and your hard work!
This is easily the most valuable resource for this game on RUclips. There are so many options and between this and your subclass series, someone new can get past the decision paralysis brought on by the character creator in short order!
I picked WOTR way back on release day, and summarily dropped it after an hour of frustration. Picked it up a few weeks ago after going through your builds series, andI can say have now eased into the mechanics enough that I'm actually enjoying myself in combat deep into Act 3 and even thinking of ramping up the difficulty. You have a way of breaking down the WHY'S of a build, and explaining your own thought process going through them. A true MVP of the community!
Commenting for algorithm. Glad to see more people teaching the basics and mechanics of the Pathfinder system. It is dense, but that density also adds depth that I just love!
As a new player in Pathfinder, I want to say thank you for explaining all of this information. With a lot of other things to learn, along the way, this has given me a much clearer understanding of what I am when I'm playing a certain class. I'm playing as kineticist btw hehe really appreciate the work you put on this video!
Awesome idea for an ongoing series! Always love to see your breakdowns on classes and mechanics, so this “baseline” video for all of them will be an excellent foundation for what’s to come. Very much looking forward to this!
Thanks for this. I think I'll mention a few of my favourite chargen-related mods, so people can be aware they exist: SpellBookMerge: Lets you merge your mythic spellbooks with more classes. (I'm currently doing a demon-bloodrager run, with a merged spellbook). Homebrew Archetypes: a mix of the utterly useless (NPC classes?!) and the utterly amazing (Blood Arcanist). More options = good, in my book. Weapon Focus Plus: Feats (like Weapon Focus) now apply to a group of weapons, not just one. Given the lack of a live GM altering loot to apply to a party's proficiencies, I consider this mandatory. The above, I recommend to just about everyone. The below, I only recommend once you have a decent handle on the system: Dark Codex: This has some amazing options (my favourite is probably the one that turns Cackle/Chant into a passive, cutting down on Hex micro considerably), but also some options which I suspect will blow any difficulty away (e.g. limitless witch hexes). I recommend caution, and only applying what you want, rather than everything. Multiple Archetypes: Finally, archetypes are archetypes, rather than subclasses. Meaning, you can take more than one, so long as they do not try and replace the same base class functionality, as per tabletop rules. Adds a load of complexity and options both. Special shout out to 'Puzzle Skip' - especially for your 2nd+ playthrough: lets you avoid the most sanity-draining puzzles in the game. Yes, it's not CharGen related, but it's such a QoL improvement, everyone should know about it. Edit: And, I can't resist, extra shout out to Bubbles Ultimate Buff Bot Lite Extra Simple (BUBBLES) - set up your buff routine once, apply it with a button click. So incredibly less tedious than doing it manually every day. Another true sanity-saver. Yes, there are other great mods, but I thought I'd just highlight a few, to keep this comment a reasonable length.
Wow you are my new favorite RUclips content creator! I’ve always enjoyed your videos but this is really something special. Wotr is by far the deepest game I’ve ever played, and with so many options and mechanics it’s really hard to wrap your head around it all. After watching this I can’t wait to try some new builds. This is going to help a lot of people. Thank you so much.
I've never really thought about it beyond knowing there sure is a lot of classes to choose between in the character creation screen, but 199? Sweet jesus
One thing which I am not sure if you mentioned but might be worth including: High mythic rank Azatas can reset lower level spells and all ability uses. There are certain classes which will get a lot of mileage out of this (its also really strong for the Devil mythic path).
Wow man, what an incredible video. I can't thank you enough for it, I got to relax on bed watching it, while also learning a heap of things I didn't actually know! Unequalled!
Huge video. This is among the most useful video you have produced, and that says a lot, because they are my go to source for game mechanics information. Skills. I don't really insist on being a skill monkey, but a class that doesn't get perception as a class skill has a strike against it in my book. Also a pet class that doesn't get mobility, to fuel the riding feats, has a strike against it.
Thanks so much for doing this. There are still a lot of mechanical things I don't understand in this game, like CMD, DR, disarm attempts, what weapon alignments/weapon construction materials (e.g. adamantine) actually do etc.
In case it helps any, here's a quick guide to the things you listed: CMD: Combat Maneuver Defence. This is what the attacker rolls against when attempting to trip, disarm, etc. you, using their CMB (Combat Maneuver Bonus). In basic terms, for those actions, CMB is like BAB (base attack bonus), and CMD is like AC. But unless you're doing a very specific build, you 99% of the time don't need to worry about it. DR: Damage Resistance. How many points of damage are ignored per physical damage attack (i.e. non-elemental). This comes in various types. DR/- cannot be bypassed. Every other type can be bypassed by what is shown after the /. So, DR 5/Good can be bypassed by Good-aligned weapons. DR 10/Adamantine can be bypassed by adamantine weapons. The bypass is 'all or nothing' - your weapon is either good aligned or not, you ignore the DR or not. Some classes (rogue & slayer at least) can reduce DR. DR/Cold Iron may also be bypassed by a weapon of +3 or better. DR/Adamantine by +4 or better, and DR/Alignment by +5. No enhancement may bypass DR/-. Disarm Attempts: Unless you can find a way to do it as part of a full attack (duelist may have one?), this is typically nothing more than a waste of a turn. Any opponent worth disarming is too hard to disarm. Can't really help you beyond that, as obviously I don't use it. Weapon Alignments/Materials: Covered in the DR section above. They do nothing other than that (well, Mithril weighs less. And Mithril Armour allows a higher Dex bonus to AC and lower armour penalties. Adamantium Armour offers 1, 2, or 3 DR/-, depending on if it is light, medium, or heavy armour). Hope that was some help, at least.
@@jamesnewman7509 this is actually very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to explain it! I remember seeing some gloves from one of the vendors in Drezen that give a bonus against disarm attempts and I was like...I don't remember ever getting disarmed in this game, do the enemies even attempt that? If they do it must not be animated and just translate as a stat nerf or something. I know it's based on tabletop, but some of the mechanics can seem extraneous at times
@@Trevaricus Yeah. I remember one enemy who Sunders Armour, and in Kingmaker there were a few who tripped (wolves mostly), but other than that, I can't remember it coming up at all. It may have happened, but I can't remember a single disarm attempt across both games. (Probably a good thing, tbh - it'd be very annoying to deal with if it happened regularly.)
@@ДимаЕфимик-т7т Ehhh....maybe? Gotta be honest, on Core, he was always such a pain to deal with, I can't remember the last time I faced him without using Grease cheese.
Dear lord this is a video, welp time to get started. I hope you enjoy your vacation Slandered! Edit: the example characters for RP/build ideas is a really cool concept and actually made me consider Bloodrager even though up until you mentioned Sabertooth i wasnt super into it.
12:00 it is worth it to note here, outside of mythic spells that automatically have the "not affected by spell resistance" arcanist has numerous exploits that are attacks with the same descriptor and its the only one in the game with spells the just get around spell resistance entirely as a base class. i didnt notice till i re-read at least 4 to 5 times on the exploits. "hey this chain lightning esque ability isnt affected by spell resit but its kinda watered down chain lighting
That is definnitely not a good reason to pick Arcanist. Damage exploits are awful. Your watered down chain lightning deals CL/2 d6 of damage, and half that to adjacent targets. That's nothing. If you are level 11 and you are still being bothered by spell resistance - pick the feats. Or use Conjuration spells, they don't have to bypass spell resistance at all.
Hey just wanted to let you know I like this whole series, finishing my kingmaker play soon and already thinking what to play in wotr, and this is a great help!
Nice simple breakdown resource, good idea. I've mostly been trying out classes/subclasses added after Kingmaker that have some thematic connection to the campaign since I started playing; Tiefling-restricted Reformed Fiend Bloodrager was my first, ended up going Azata bc Chaotic Good. an Aasimar Champion of the Faith Warpriest for Angel. had to try a Lawful Neutral Judge Dredd style character for an Aeon after seeing what that's all about (Human, Guard, Abadar, Judge Inquisitor). Have made lots of others, one for every mythic, but played these the most. Hybrid spellcasters are fun to play, but playing only the most mechanically optimal characters is especially unappealing to me.
42:45 it is worth noting here that certain mega buffs like legendary proportions and heroic invocation 9th level spells dont work on undead and they actually implemented that correctly, so you cant use that on undead teammates. you have to use frightful aspect or something else.
Still making my way through this beast of a video. I'm really looking forward to the rankings, and also appreciate the mythic path analysis you make in here with the classes. Only thing that jumps out at me so far and is not explicitly discussed in your video is the implementation of inquisitor's bane. The way it's done in the game, it just adds the weapon damage to all attacks to all enemies
A very effective kineticist class mythic path is swarm. As you arent going to be self buffing with spells anyway (other than maybe celerity, which you wont bother with in this variant), there is no significant cost to magic nullification mythic ability, nor any shortage of mythic abilities for kineticists. Rank 9 swarm immunities make you virtually untouchable. Also, effects like deadly earth, wall and cloud all stack, and is extremely effective (albeit pretty boring). Going kinetic blade with flame blast works very well also.
Finally got around to watching this after seeing the reddit post, and my goodness 2 hours of class mechanics and future videos breaking down all the subclasses! I applaud you for taking up this momentous task, it'll be great to have all this information all in one place and being up to date with all the patch changes since release. It's also presented quite well, I can only imagine how long this took to record, edit and get all the footage for.
From my testing, mythic sneak attack also cannot exceed the sneak attack die limit of 1/2 your character level, so for classes with full sneak attack like most rogue archtypes I would not recommend it.
I already know that sneak attack lets me turn in to bears and wild shape gives me extra precision damage dice if the enemy is flanked or denied their dexterity bonus. Lol seriously though I'm sure this will be a very helpful video to players who might need it.
@@SlanderedGaming I tried searching various places and could not find why But (you can check on archive of nethys or d20pfsrd) "Manifestation (Su): Upon reaching 20th level, a shaman undergoes a transformation as she manifests as a pinnacle of her main spirit. The nature of this manifestation depends on the shaman’s spirit, and is described in its entry." I was searching why most camellia build did not have Shaman 20 and found that there was no capstone for Shamam, which is strange (given this is one of the few actually good capstones in the game itself), For Camellia this would be "Upon reaching 20th level, the shaman becomes a spirit of battle. As a full-round action, she can make a full attack and move up to her speed (either before or after the attacks). Whenever she scores a critical hit, the attack ignores damage reduction. She gains a +4 insight bonus to AC for the purposes of confirming critical hits against her. If she is reduced to below 0 hit points, she does not die until her negative hit point total exceeds double her Constitution score."
This games character mechanics are so convoluted and tough to understand. I played kingmaker and stopped due to the difficulty to get through the buggy game. I love CRPG’s more than any game but figuring out how to truly build characters in this one is frustrating from someone who played a lot of DOS 2 and the POE I+II
What shaman spirit tends to be best? I'm planning on going a dex finesse shadow shaman if that matters. Edit I plan on making use of cameilla too so I'm not sure about doubling up on battle.
Wind will provide you with Blur and Displacement spells which are useful to keep you alive, along with Wind Ward. Nature will give you Barkskin and Seamantle much later on.
Slander.. thank you very much for this fabulose guide! I've been playing pathfinder since king maker, but I'm just a novice and always find some classes a bit intimidating to use like Magus, Kinethysts and inquisitors. With this guide I think I can lose some of that fear and try to use them to understand them better. BTW, any recomendation for a Sylvanas Windrunner build? Thanks a lot really. Super good video. Can't imagine how much time it took you to compile a script, record and edit.
Love your videos man! Can't wait to see what you've got for the next DLCs! Can I ask where you got the portraits from the thumbnail? Do you have a Zip or something you can provide? Always love making new characters with awesome portraits. :)
Can you make a video with just the ending comparison of the class with other fictional characters? It would be a great for for me to introduce these classes to some one who has never played a pathfinder type game before
31:45 thats one thing i didn't know as the game doesn't say it anywhere, that the mount is essentially tanking for you. i went my whole azata cavalier run without this knowledge
I still wish there was an online character planner. I had to respecc so many times cause i forgot to spec whatever was a prereq. for what i wanted to spec next. That bbeing said, i adore and love this game and am now at my 3rd full playthrough.
Great video as always, just a recommendation for bloodrager, there is no reason to play the base one, primalist don't lose anything and they gain the ability to trade bloodline powers for rage powers Wich are just better, but even if you don't want to trade you don't have to is just a bonus, also from a combat standpoint angel is the best bloodline, since you are better at killing demons, and after that you can go for the mytic power and get any dragon bloodline to go for 4 levels in dragon disciple Wich will give you extra strength and constitution so you finish with 16 bloodrager and 4 dragon disciple
Tested just now, and gold dragon dice increase is specific to spells, and doesnt effect kinetic blast. Its actually OK for kinetic blade using kineticists, as the +5 enchant on all weapons applies to kinetic blade, the only way to achieve this as far as I know, and it further increases your BAB to mythic rank +15, so its a total +15 to hit (for physical blast kineticists in particular, this is massive) and 2 extra attacks per round with a kinetic blade. However, the legend does this significantly better. Honestly, the best use of gold dragon would probably be a hellfire ray specialist that started out as a trickster for the improved critical and completely normal spell feats. This is extremely niche however.
Weird there was a whole discussion about GD not applying to Blasts at the beginning of the year and they fixed it but now maybe it is broken yet again.
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Hi everyone! Hope all of you have enjoyed the video. This post will maintain a list of corrections regarding class mechanics and a glossary of useful terms I didn’t go over in the video. If something more needs to be added please make a new comment with that information. I get a ton of notifications for replies and simply cannot monitor them. Thanks for all the feedback!
Base Attack Bonus (BAB) is your character’s ability to hit without any modifiers. When you attack, this number will be added to your attack roll along with whatever bonuses your character has. The rate at which this number increases depends on your class. Every time you gain six ranks in this stat, BAB will also allow you to do an extra attack. These additional attacks will each add a smaller portion of your BAB to your attack roll than your first attack.
Combat Maneuver Defense (CMD) is the number to determine your ability to resist being tripped, disarmed, shoved, or a similar effect when enemies will use their Combat Maneuver Bonus (CMB) against you. This rarely happens in the game so it’s only something to focus on if you are using a class that heavily makes use of the stat.
Damage Resistance (DR) is how many points of damage are ignored when an enemy successfully hits you with a physical attack. Some enemies have Damage Resistance that can only be bypassed by weapons of a certain type such as Good aligned or Cold Iron weapons. A weapon’s enhancement bonus can also sometimes bypass the DR requirement.
Competence and Dodge bonuses stack. Most other types of bonuses do not.
Azata:
Has spells that can reset lower level spells/abilities. Some classes can make great use of this.
Bard:
At level 1 Bards can use Bardic Performance for a number of rounds per day equal to 4 + their Charisma modifier. They steadily gain more Bardic Performance rounds as they level up.
Cleric:
If you use this class with Lich keep in mind that some late level buffs like Legendary Proportions and Heroic Invocation will not work on undead party members.
Inquisitor:
Despite Bane’s description it doesn’t require you to designate specific enemies. The ability just provides a flat damage bonus against all creatures.
Kineticist:
Gold Dragon spell damage increases currently do not apply to blasts. This issue was addressed earlier in the year but appears to be broken again. Not clear if that’s because Dev’s don’t want it to apply to blasts.
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Not many people will dedicate hours to making a video this well detailed, thank you for all your hard work and effort.
My pleasure!
Glad it seems like people are enjoying the video. Once I am back from vacationing I’ll create a pinned post with useful comments/corrections!
Hey when you get the chance you should do tier list of animal companions so you can help players on picking an animal companion on certain classes
Finally a list of all the classes and their mechanics that isn’t still from Beta, also love the mythic paths synergy. Basically everything I need as a latecomer to the game to catch up and be less overwhelmed but the long class lists. Thanks a million :)
Btw would be nice if the transition from one class to the next had a little “gap”. Just a noticeable pause or something before you start the next one.
Thanks I'll keep that in mind for the next time I do something like this.
Woah, this came outta nowhere - what an absolutely incredible surprise! I desperately wish I'd had a video like this when I was taking my first steps into Pathfinder. The other videos I found were all literally just reading what was on the screen out loud with absolutely no analysis or explanation about what the class is really like. What an incredible project to have worked on, well done and thanks so much!
Thank you!
You, sir, are an absolute content creation beast!
Never change 😄
I just finished this video last night after watching it piecemeal over the past week, and I was continuously blown away by the amount of effort you put into this!
Once any of my premiere pro projects build up a large enough cache that the preview starts taking 20 seconds or more to render, that's where I call it a day, but to edit a video this size must have taken weeks of long nights to get done, and for that effort I give my thanks!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support. This is the first video I have made that I did not enjoy creating. It took SUCH a long time and was such an intensive process that pretty much brought my channel to a halt. If I do something like that again I have to figure out a better way to make the video in the flow of everything else I want to do. Still I am very happy with how it came out and appreciate the feedback from the community.
Aight, I'm watching this whole video while the game downloads I got to say, I REALLY admire that you repeat yourself when a feature appears in more than one class (describing teamwork feats for example). You really accounted for people skipping through the video to their desired class by doing so.
Thank you!
Also handy for people like me with crap memory. "Wait, he talked about this... how did it work again?"
Words cannot describe how much I appreciate this. I love this game, and CRPGs in general, but I simply don't have the time to go and playtest everything to see what's worthy of a fully playthrough.
Your channel have been a constant source of good info and I appreciate it. Keep up the good work bro
Thank you! Glad you are still enjoying the content!
A splendid video this time. Here is my monthly tip in the jar! Wonderful!
Thank you Fred! I really appreciate the support!
Hunter and skald look so interesting! Im definitely choosing between those classes for my first playthrough.
I just finished act one with skald and enjoyed it. The mix of fighter and buffer is interesting
Oi! You explained arcanist when no one else could or would. Cheers. Worth the thumbs up on the vid just for that alone!
Thanks!
I discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago and it motivated me to give WOTR another playthrough (beat it first time with Damphir Blood Kineticist Lich - not knowing what I was doing). I've decided to do a playthrough as each of the race specific classes and hopefully choosing a good corresponding mythic path. Your videos were essential in helping me make my decisions. I appreciate you and your hard work!
Thank you! Glad you have been enjoying the content!
you sir, are a god send, i started my first playthrough not to long ago and this Video is a life saver, Thank you!
Awesome my pleasure!
I missed the streams the last week, but this more than makes up for it. You weren't lying man, this video is a beast
Yeah this was rough to make, I am definitely going to chill on long form for a while. LOL
Thanks a lot Samori! I know this took a lot of effort to make and we thank you! You're a pillar of the community
Thank you! I appreciate the support!
This is easily the most valuable resource for this game on RUclips. There are so many options and between this and your subclass series, someone new can get past the decision paralysis brought on by the character creator in short order!
Incredible dedication. Bravo.
I picked WOTR way back on release day, and summarily dropped it after an hour of frustration. Picked it up a few weeks ago after going through your builds series, andI can say have now eased into the mechanics enough that I'm actually enjoying myself in combat deep into Act 3 and even thinking of ramping up the difficulty. You have a way of breaking down the WHY'S of a build, and explaining your own thought process going through them. A true MVP of the community!
Thank you so much! Really glad you have found the content valuable.
Great having this in one place that’s up to date
Commenting for algorithm. Glad to see more people teaching the basics and mechanics of the Pathfinder system. It is dense, but that density also adds depth that I just love!
As a new player in Pathfinder, I want to say thank you for explaining all of this information. With a lot of other things to learn, along the way, this has given me a much clearer understanding of what I am when I'm playing a certain class. I'm playing as kineticist btw hehe
really appreciate the work you put on this video!
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Awesome idea for an ongoing series! Always love to see your breakdowns on classes and mechanics, so this “baseline” video for all of them will be an excellent foundation for what’s to come. Very much looking forward to this!
First video in the series drops tomorrow!
Thanks for this. I think I'll mention a few of my favourite chargen-related mods, so people can be aware they exist:
SpellBookMerge: Lets you merge your mythic spellbooks with more classes. (I'm currently doing a demon-bloodrager run, with a merged spellbook).
Homebrew Archetypes: a mix of the utterly useless (NPC classes?!) and the utterly amazing (Blood Arcanist). More options = good, in my book.
Weapon Focus Plus: Feats (like Weapon Focus) now apply to a group of weapons, not just one. Given the lack of a live GM altering loot to apply to a party's proficiencies, I consider this mandatory.
The above, I recommend to just about everyone. The below, I only recommend once you have a decent handle on the system:
Dark Codex: This has some amazing options (my favourite is probably the one that turns Cackle/Chant into a passive, cutting down on Hex micro considerably), but also some options which I suspect will blow any difficulty away (e.g. limitless witch hexes). I recommend caution, and only applying what you want, rather than everything.
Multiple Archetypes: Finally, archetypes are archetypes, rather than subclasses. Meaning, you can take more than one, so long as they do not try and replace the same base class functionality, as per tabletop rules. Adds a load of complexity and options both.
Special shout out to 'Puzzle Skip' - especially for your 2nd+ playthrough: lets you avoid the most sanity-draining puzzles in the game. Yes, it's not CharGen related, but it's such a QoL improvement, everyone should know about it.
Edit: And, I can't resist, extra shout out to Bubbles Ultimate Buff Bot Lite Extra Simple (BUBBLES) - set up your buff routine once, apply it with a button click. So incredibly less tedious than doing it manually every day. Another true sanity-saver.
Yes, there are other great mods, but I thought I'd just highlight a few, to keep this comment a reasonable length.
I keep hearing about bubbles I will try it on my last playthrough.
I like the fact you added the extra examples for new players to have a better idea what the out come it. Good video.
Thank you! I hoped that would make the content a little more valuable.
This video is a godsend. I was just looking for a video like this to plan out my first play through. Thank you so much, Slandered!
My pleasure! Glad you found it valuable!
Wow you are my new favorite RUclips content creator! I’ve always enjoyed your videos but this is really something special. Wotr is by far the deepest game I’ve ever played, and with so many options and mechanics it’s really hard to wrap your head around it all. After watching this I can’t wait to try some new builds. This is going to help a lot of people. Thank you so much.
My pleasure glad you enjoyed it!
You can tell a lot of work has gone into the making of this video, thanks, much appreciated 👍
I've never really thought about it beyond knowing there sure is a lot of classes to choose between in the character creation screen, but 199? Sweet jesus
Yup there's a staggering amount of options.
One thing which I am not sure if you mentioned but might be worth including: High mythic rank Azatas can reset lower level spells and all ability uses. There are certain classes which will get a lot of mileage out of this (its also really strong for the Devil mythic path).
Great point that I will note.
Wow man, what an incredible video. I can't thank you enough for it, I got to relax on bed watching it, while also learning a heap of things I didn't actually know! Unequalled!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Huge video. This is among the most useful video you have produced, and that says a lot, because they are my go to source for game mechanics information.
Skills. I don't really insist on being a skill monkey, but a class that doesn't get perception as a class skill has a strike against it in my book. Also a pet class that doesn't get mobility, to fuel the riding feats, has a strike against it.
Thanks so much for doing this. There are still a lot of mechanical things I don't understand in this game, like CMD, DR, disarm attempts, what weapon alignments/weapon construction materials (e.g. adamantine) actually do etc.
In case it helps any, here's a quick guide to the things you listed:
CMD: Combat Maneuver Defence. This is what the attacker rolls against when attempting to trip, disarm, etc. you, using their CMB (Combat Maneuver Bonus). In basic terms, for those actions, CMB is like BAB (base attack bonus), and CMD is like AC. But unless you're doing a very specific build, you 99% of the time don't need to worry about it.
DR: Damage Resistance. How many points of damage are ignored per physical damage attack (i.e. non-elemental). This comes in various types. DR/- cannot be bypassed. Every other type can be bypassed by what is shown after the /. So, DR 5/Good can be bypassed by Good-aligned weapons. DR 10/Adamantine can be bypassed by adamantine weapons. The bypass is 'all or nothing' - your weapon is either good aligned or not, you ignore the DR or not. Some classes (rogue & slayer at least) can reduce DR. DR/Cold Iron may also be bypassed by a weapon of +3 or better. DR/Adamantine by +4 or better, and DR/Alignment by +5. No enhancement may bypass DR/-.
Disarm Attempts: Unless you can find a way to do it as part of a full attack (duelist may have one?), this is typically nothing more than a waste of a turn. Any opponent worth disarming is too hard to disarm. Can't really help you beyond that, as obviously I don't use it.
Weapon Alignments/Materials: Covered in the DR section above. They do nothing other than that (well, Mithril weighs less. And Mithril Armour allows a higher Dex bonus to AC and lower armour penalties. Adamantium Armour offers 1, 2, or 3 DR/-, depending on if it is light, medium, or heavy armour).
Hope that was some help, at least.
@@jamesnewman7509 this is actually very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to explain it! I remember seeing some gloves from one of the vendors in Drezen that give a bonus against disarm attempts and I was like...I don't remember ever getting disarmed in this game, do the enemies even attempt that? If they do it must not be animated and just translate as a stat nerf or something. I know it's based on tabletop, but some of the mechanics can seem extraneous at times
@@Trevaricus Yeah. I remember one enemy who Sunders Armour, and in Kingmaker there were a few who tripped (wolves mostly), but other than that, I can't remember it coming up at all. It may have happened, but I can't remember a single disarm attempt across both games. (Probably a good thing, tbh - it'd be very annoying to deal with if it happened regularly.)
@@jamesnewman7509 wasn't paladin from the Valerie's duel disarming?
@@ДимаЕфимик-т7т Ehhh....maybe? Gotta be honest, on Core, he was always such a pain to deal with, I can't remember the last time I faced him without using Grease cheese.
As a total newcomer to this series, your videos have been unbelievably valuable lately. Thank you so much and keep up the good work!!
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New sub, love this content
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Love this series! If there had been videos like this when I first picked up Kingmaker, I wouldn't have dropped it the first time.
Thank you!
I am so glad that you are doing this series.
53:38 that was always what i thought of when i saw swarm, gosh i miss starcraft. such a good series.
Dear lord this is a video, welp time to get started. I hope you enjoy your vacation Slandered!
Edit: the example characters for RP/build ideas is a really cool concept and actually made me consider Bloodrager even though up until you mentioned Sabertooth i wasnt super into it.
Thank you! I know for some people just reading through the mechanics would be boring so I hoped by adding the RP ideas it would spice things up a bit.
Impressive piece of work. I look forward to your follow-up videos.
Good stuff! Looking forward to the ranking videos!
First video in the series drops tomorrow!
gotta say, really great coverage, as well as good recommendation for mythic feats and abilities to complement, cheers slandered!
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
12:00 it is worth it to note here, outside of mythic spells that automatically have the "not affected by spell resistance" arcanist has numerous exploits that are attacks with the same descriptor and its the only one in the game with spells the just get around spell resistance entirely as a base class. i didnt notice till i re-read at least 4 to 5 times on the exploits. "hey this chain lightning esque ability isnt affected by spell resit but its kinda watered down chain lighting
That is definnitely not a good reason to pick Arcanist. Damage exploits are awful. Your watered down chain lightning deals CL/2 d6 of damage, and half that to adjacent targets. That's nothing. If you are level 11 and you are still being bothered by spell resistance - pick the feats. Or use Conjuration spells, they don't have to bypass spell resistance at all.
@@Kammereer true i was just pointing it out. its the only class has the ability to do that without any mythical help.
Thank you for working on this, I'm really enjoying the game now
Awesome glad to hear it.
Dude you're awesome!! Thanks for your work that you dedicated here!
Worth the wait, brother! Keep it up!
Hey just wanted to let you know I like this whole series, finishing my kingmaker play soon and already thinking what to play in wotr, and this is a great help!
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Whaaaaaaat, man you outdid yourself ! Gonna listen to it while playing my new sword saint build
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR! Thank you, kind sir!
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Props to the amount of effort that you must have put into this vid bro
Thank you!
Amazing amount of updated details, ur da man!
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Thank you, I needed these.
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Crushed this one, Samori. Thanks for doing what you do.
Nice simple breakdown resource, good idea. I've mostly been trying out classes/subclasses added after Kingmaker that have some thematic connection to the campaign since I started playing; Tiefling-restricted Reformed Fiend Bloodrager was my first, ended up going Azata bc Chaotic Good. an Aasimar Champion of the Faith Warpriest for Angel. had to try a Lawful Neutral Judge Dredd style character for an Aeon after seeing what that's all about (Human, Guard, Abadar, Judge Inquisitor). Have made lots of others, one for every mythic, but played these the most. Hybrid spellcasters are fun to play, but playing only the most mechanically optimal characters is especially unappealing to me.
Yup there has to be a story pull for me to be interested in the character.
42:45 it is worth noting here that certain mega buffs like legendary proportions and heroic invocation 9th level spells dont work on undead and they actually implemented that correctly, so you cant use that on undead teammates. you have to use frightful aspect or something else.
That's a good note I will add it to the pinned post thanks.
Still making my way through this beast of a video. I'm really looking forward to the rankings, and also appreciate the mythic path analysis you make in here with the classes.
Only thing that jumps out at me so far and is not explicitly discussed in your video is the implementation of inquisitor's bane. The way it's done in the game, it just adds the weapon damage to all attacks to all enemies
Yeah that's a good point I should've called out in the video. You don't have to designate it for specific creatures.
A very effective kineticist class mythic path is swarm. As you arent going to be self buffing with spells anyway (other than maybe celerity, which you wont bother with in this variant), there is no significant cost to magic nullification mythic ability, nor any shortage of mythic abilities for kineticists. Rank 9 swarm immunities make you virtually untouchable. Also, effects like deadly earth, wall and cloud all stack, and is extremely effective (albeit pretty boring). Going kinetic blade with flame blast works very well also.
Yup I agree they go extremely well together.
I feel like I need a PhD in rocket science to understand wtf is going on with kineticist
You do such a fabulous job with this... so glad I found your channel!
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Amazing video. Subscribed based on it. Looking forward to watching your ranking of the archetypes.
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Yoooooo we need someone to start tagging Good videos like these on Reddit this is like an absolute huge must for new players
Thank you!
Thanks for putting in the effort for this!
My pleasure!
My pleasure!
Finally got around to watching this after seeing the reddit post, and my goodness 2 hours of class mechanics and future videos breaking down all the subclasses! I applaud you for taking up this momentous task, it'll be great to have all this information all in one place and being up to date with all the patch changes since release. It's also presented quite well, I can only imagine how long this took to record, edit and get all the footage for.
Thank you! We are on part 16 in the ranking series so far and I think it is going well. :)
20:23 circumstance bonuses stack with each other. its a rare type of bonus that does.
Thanks I will note that.
Hey I just picked this game up, this is super helpful!
Amazing video mate, thanks a lot!
Thanks glad you liked it!
Love these massive breakdowns! Me after watching the Kineticist section though 🥴
Awesome glad you enjoyed it!
From my testing, mythic sneak attack also cannot exceed the sneak attack die limit of 1/2 your character level, so for classes with full sneak attack like most rogue archtypes I would not recommend it.
Really? I wonder if they changed that in a patch because originally it definitely could.
@@SlanderedGaming i might be wrong, but last time I checked this seems to be the case. I will definitely try to retest :)
Subscribed for Anansi. What a dope trickster character idea.
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Great work, dude!
I already know that sneak attack lets me turn in to bears and wild shape gives me extra precision damage dice if the enemy is flanked or denied their dexterity bonus.
Lol seriously though I'm sure this will be a very helpful video to players who might need it.
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Shaman should technically have a level 20 ability (Manifestation), but i can't find any info of it in game. Is it removed from game?
I have never heard of that ability so I don't think Owlcat brought it over.
@@SlanderedGaming I tried searching various places and could not find why
But (you can check on archive of nethys or d20pfsrd)
"Manifestation (Su): Upon reaching 20th level, a shaman undergoes a transformation as she manifests as a pinnacle of her main spirit. The nature of this manifestation depends on the shaman’s spirit, and is described in its entry."
I was searching why most camellia build did not have Shaman 20 and found that there was no capstone for Shamam, which is strange (given this is one of the few actually good capstones in the game itself), For Camellia this would be
"Upon reaching 20th level, the shaman becomes a spirit of battle. As a full-round action, she can make a full attack and move up to her speed (either before or after the attacks). Whenever she scores a critical hit, the attack ignores damage reduction. She gains a +4 insight bonus to AC for the purposes of confirming critical hits against her. If she is reduced to below 0 hit points, she does not die until her negative hit point total exceeds double her Constitution score."
Oh I'm hyped for this!
28:27 what! that is sick!!!! i always wanted to turn into a hydra.
Thanks for this! Very helpful video
My pleasure!
This games character mechanics are so convoluted and tough to understand. I played kingmaker and stopped due to the difficulty to get through the buggy game. I love CRPG’s more than any game but figuring out how to truly build characters in this one is frustrating from someone who played a lot of DOS 2 and the POE I+II
Yup that's why I made a bunch of videos on this game.
What shaman spirit tends to be best? I'm planning on going a dex finesse shadow shaman if that matters.
Edit I plan on making use of cameilla too so I'm not sure about doubling up on battle.
Wind will provide you with Blur and Displacement spells which are useful to keep you alive, along with Wind Ward. Nature will give you Barkskin and Seamantle much later on.
Damn this really helps. Thank you.
Slander.. thank you very much for this fabulose guide! I've been playing pathfinder since king maker, but I'm just a novice and always find some classes a bit intimidating to use like Magus, Kinethysts and inquisitors. With this guide I think I can lose some of that fear and try to use them to understand them better.
BTW, any recomendation for a Sylvanas Windrunner build?
Thanks a lot really. Super good video. Can't imagine how much time it took you to compile a script, record and edit.
Content like this is why I like, comment and subscribe to your channel 😊
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Thank you. You are a true king.
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Get this man a glass of water! Great vid!
Thank you!
Love your videos man! Can't wait to see what you've got for the next DLCs!
Can I ask where you got the portraits from the thumbnail? Do you have a Zip or something you can provide? Always love making new characters with awesome portraits. :)
I just googled pathfinder portraits. I think some of these photos come from mod's that put a lot more portraits into the game.
Amazing! Thank you soo much
I'm so pumped!
Can you make a video with just the ending comparison of the class with other fictional characters? It would be a great for for me to introduce these classes to some one who has never played a pathfinder type game before
Oh that's an interesting idea I hadn't considered. Maybe after the next major patch I'll do another video across all the base classes.
Question: if I wanted to do gold dragon monk what second class should I pick when I inevitable cant do monk anymore because of alignment?
Maybe dragon disciple? Not sure if the dragon mythic spellbook qualifies you for it, otherwise you could potentially use bloodrager levels to qualify.
@@michaelkenner3289 I'd have to invest a little to get the prerequisites but yeah that might work. Seems so obvious too lol
That was GODLIKE man
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31:45 thats one thing i didn't know as the game doesn't say it anywhere, that the mount is essentially tanking for you. i went my whole azata cavalier run without this knowledge
Yeah it really should be stated clearer.
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I still wish there was an online character planner. I had to respecc so many times cause i forgot to spec whatever was a prereq. for what i wanted to spec next. That bbeing said, i adore and love this game and am now at my 3rd full playthrough.
May the all-seeing Nethys smile down upon you for the wealth of information you have bestowed upon us
Great video as always, just a recommendation for bloodrager, there is no reason to play the base one, primalist don't lose anything and they gain the ability to trade bloodline powers for rage powers Wich are just better, but even if you don't want to trade you don't have to is just a bonus, also from a combat standpoint angel is the best bloodline, since you are better at killing demons, and after that you can go for the mytic power and get any dragon bloodline to go for 4 levels in dragon disciple Wich will give you extra strength and constitution so you finish with 16 bloodrager and 4 dragon disciple
Great tips thank you.
outstanding work
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Tested just now, and gold dragon dice increase is specific to spells, and doesnt effect kinetic blast. Its actually OK for kinetic blade using kineticists, as the +5 enchant on all weapons applies to kinetic blade, the only way to achieve this as far as I know, and it further increases your BAB to mythic rank +15, so its a total +15 to hit (for physical blast kineticists in particular, this is massive) and 2 extra attacks per round with a kinetic blade. However, the legend does this significantly better. Honestly, the best use of gold dragon would probably be a hellfire ray specialist that started out as a trickster for the improved critical and completely normal spell feats. This is extremely niche however.
Weird there was a whole discussion about GD not applying to Blasts at the beginning of the year and they fixed it but now maybe it is broken yet again.
"Gandalf isn't a wizard, he is a sorcerer."
Gandalf: *Pulls out a sword and starts swinging*
No mention of how a warpriest’s Fervor can be used to cast spells as a swift action?
Will you do I deep dive into the new class coming out with the season 2 pass? Really looking forward to trying it out.
Absolutely I well be checking it out.
Sir you're a hero. You know that right?
I do what I can!
All im going to say is thanks 😊 🙏
You are very welcome!
How many times did he say burn 58:34
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