With the stage 3 you could really hear the difference in acceleration!! I placed an order with MSC and was very impressed that I got in 3.5 days, I live in NC. You have me as a customer from hear on out. Can't wait to get down there in May for your Take Over event!!! Love your videos!!
Thank you for the content, been watching from canada for awhile now and today i ordered my stage 1,2 and 3 from MSC, helix on back order but cant wait to finally put this on and feel the results for myself even though your videos do a amazing job of it. running 30 cryptid like your xc800, hope all 3 wake my bike up more then she puts out now.
Wow! Those clutch kits are a game changer. You can hear and see a truly noticeable difference with the sound and how much the rear end squats. It’s really the low end power that matters. That’s my experience with all vehicles... even daily drivers like cars and trucks. I prefer vehicles that I can just ease on the throttle and go, not have to gun it. That 950 looks awesome with the 32’s. You can tell they’re definitely bogging it down with the stock clutch though. But not anymore. It’s ripping now!
Pretty fascinating! In the V8 world, back in the 90s we would equate $100:1HP in cost for HP gains. I.e $1000/10HP. So this is awesome, I hope you put a spreadsheet together!
Great value in the info on the dyno, your making it all a lot better for those who do not know what is a better match up between tires and clutch to make the best performance and lengthen the life of your upgrades. Oh and your moving the camera around to much making me dizzy or maybe that was just me getting to excited over the enhanced performance lol
Dude i love what you and msc do.. right now im buying a 2022 uforce 1000 i would love to see sum dyno test on that.. And thanks again for your content its unbelievably awesome.
Yes sir yall guys r on to something, n I'm starting to save right now,stage 3 etc., n waiting on the tuning,hell I might have to take vacation n drive down from Texas n let u guys hook my up
Yes we already have the kits available for each and EVERY MODEL in the cfmoto lineup. You can order it on the msc website.. we just haven't been able to film each and everyone of them yet
@@RealTalkPowersports Just ordered secondary spring. Not sure about stage 3 because I have Maxxis Bighorn Radial Tires which are 26x11-12 Rear & 26x9-12 Front. They are only bigger then stock by 1' higher, 1" wider, and sure felt heavier but didn't know if this is enough.
Hey Blake once again, MSC is leading the way. Is the 800 trail zforce a wet clutch or is it a regular clutch like on the 950z sport. Thanks again, by the way I’m running the stage 3 trail with the tune. Thanks again.
Definitely would like to see an ecu tune with the stage 3 clutch kit, full exhaust kit with 32s. Most stock tunes are fat and safe so you dont damage the machine.
I can't wait until I order my stage 3 trail clutch kit Blake. I know that I want 32x10x14 tires just can't make my mind between the ams m2 evil or the system 3 xtr 370 tires.
Yeah I want to buy the stage 3 clutch ,tune,exhaust, air intake but when will long travel suspension be available for the 950 2020? Even the stock 2022 HO model swap? Very intrested
What do you recommend for a box stock UF800? Used as a work vehicle on our farm, not for racing or mud bogging. Congrats on the dyno, it shows actual proof without the guess work
Thank ya much sir.. Honestly I wouldn't recommend a clutch kit for your application.. the stock will be more than sufficient for you. Just use low gear when using it to haul or tow
Do you have a video with intake exhaust tune stage 3 clutch and 32s? That's my build plan like to know what I'll get for my money once it all comes together
Why didn’t you show max dyno torque with stage two and stage three you said that was most important to get close to the max torque with stock tires at 812
Bonjour j'ai installé le stage 3 le couple est bien mais j'ai perdue de la vitesse max pneus en 30P 100kmh aux compteur je me demande si c'est normale merci
I have 32s on my 950, and looking to do this exact set up. Can you show some max speed runs to see how much we're going to lose on the top end with both stage 2 and 3? Can't wait for the tuning and exhausts to come!
Question: Using Stock tires, what clutch pack would be best for my 600 CFMoto CForce. Seems like it takes a lot of throttle to take off (to engage) and also when you are only going 10 to 20 mph it seems the RPM's are higher than they should be. I dont need all the power I just want to give it the throttle and it go up in speed a little faster (Higher gear ratio). Stock clutch pack seems like it just does not open up soon enough, I have 2 of these 2021 600's less than 20 hrs on them.
MSC can send you a custom Clutch kit for that desired result. Just text 662-438-6407 tomorrow or Thursday and include in your text that you would like to work with Dylan for a clutch kit for your 600 and include that you spoke with Blake. I'll talk with Dylan tomorrow and we will get you what you need for your desired result.
with a stage 2 and 32 inch tires on a zforce 950 ex what should i clock my secondary at, it says b1 on instruction but is that with oem tires is there a different clocking number for 32 tires
So excited to get my helix. I was thinking what would the difference be if you used the over ride switch. I know its only for situations when you need more power.
Has there been a test on the stage 2 & stage 3 clutch kits with stock tires? I would be interested in know what the power output would be...@realtalkpowersports
The stage 3 will give very bad results with the stock tires. The stage 2 definitely helps but it is like lowering the gear ratio. The stage 3 is specifically designed for big heavey mud tires
@@RealTalkPowersports Good to know. Mechanically challenged guys like me might wrongfully assume that if you get good results with a much heavier wheel/tire combo, then the stock setup would get a huge boost in power and torque with these stage 2 & 3 clutch kits.
Have you all done the test to confirm the belt actually runs cooler. That’s all I’m waiting on to order. I just want to make sure it’s enough difference to throw away my old kit from you all. Thanks!
What causes belt temperatures to increase above normal operating temperatures? Reduced or poor airflow.. and Belt Slipping… With the stage 2 kit we eliminate as much belt slippage as possible while still delivering the smoothest engagement possible and adding more bottom end and mid range pull
With the stage 3 you could really hear the difference in acceleration!! I placed an order with MSC and was very impressed that I got in 3.5 days, I live in NC. You have me as a customer from hear on out. Can't wait to get down there in May for your Take Over event!!! Love your videos!!
Thats Awesome Steven!! Cant wait to meet u
Thank you for the content, been watching from canada for awhile now and today i ordered my stage 1,2 and 3 from MSC, helix on back order but cant wait to finally put this on and feel the results for myself even though your videos do a amazing job of it. running 30 cryptid like your xc800, hope all 3 wake my bike up more then she puts out now.
Also the staff at MSC were very helpful and knowledgable made the whole process easy
Wow! Those clutch kits are a game changer. You can hear and see a truly noticeable difference with the sound and how much the rear end squats. It’s really the low end power that matters. That’s my experience with all vehicles... even daily drivers like cars and trucks. I prefer vehicles that I can just ease on the throttle and go, not have to gun it. That 950 looks awesome with the 32’s. You can tell they’re definitely bogging it down with the stock clutch though. But not anymore. It’s ripping now!
Pretty fascinating! In the V8 world, back in the 90s we would equate $100:1HP in cost for HP gains. I.e $1000/10HP.
So this is awesome, I hope you put a spreadsheet together!
Great value in the info on the dyno, your making it all a lot better for those who do not know what is a better match up between tires and clutch to make the best performance and lengthen the life of your upgrades.
Oh and your moving the camera around to much making me dizzy or maybe that was just me getting to excited over the enhanced performance lol
😄 haha I'm sorry about that I'll try to be steady.. I was excited myself
Dude i love what you and msc do.. right now im buying a 2022 uforce 1000 i would love to see sum dyno test on that.. And thanks again for your content its unbelievably awesome.
Yes sir yall guys r on to something, n I'm starting to save right now,stage 3 etc., n waiting on the tuning,hell I might have to take vacation n drive down from Texas n let u guys hook my up
Pumped and stoked! What else is there to say!! Great video!!
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@@RealTalkPowersports no pressure but do you have an idea when the tunes are coming out?
It would be nice to see an ECU, exhaust and a race intake kit put on this same machine
We all love seeing a Beast-Mode addition 😎
We are currently working on that actually.. gonna be awesome
@@RealTalkPowersports u already know I want all that lol
@@RealTalkPowersports that’s going to be really awesome
Same with a Cforce 1000 all decked out👍🏼
Hope you are going to do the CFORCE 600 because it seems to be one of the most popular in the CFMOTO ATV lineup.
Yes we already have the kits available for each and EVERY MODEL in the cfmoto lineup. You can order it on the msc website.. we just haven't been able to film each and everyone of them yet
@@RealTalkPowersports Just ordered secondary spring. Not sure about stage 3 because I have Maxxis Bighorn Radial Tires which are 26x11-12 Rear & 26x9-12 Front. They are only bigger then stock by 1' higher, 1" wider, and sure felt heavier but didn't know if this is enough.
Peak power with stage 3 was 64.4 and peak torque was 766.
Hey Blake once again, MSC is leading the way. Is the 800 trail zforce a wet clutch or is it a regular clutch like on the 950z sport. Thanks again, by the way I’m running the stage 3 trail with the tune. Thanks again.
It depends on what year model zforce 800 you are referring too.. if it’s a Gen 2 then it’s just like the z950
@@RealTalkPowersports 2022 zforce 800 trail and thanks again blake
Definitely would like to see an ecu tune with the stage 3 clutch kit, full exhaust kit with 32s. Most stock tunes are fat and safe so you dont damage the machine.
Yea that is coming soon...
Me to ,wait for it all
I can't wait until I order my stage 3 trail clutch kit Blake. I know that I want 32x10x14 tires just can't make my mind between the ams m2 evil or the system 3 xtr 370 tires.
When can we see a tuned 950 with stage 3 clutch on 32s vs a stock with 32s? I'd like to see what my machine will do before and after!
Yeah I want to buy the stage 3 clutch ,tune,exhaust, air intake but when will long travel suspension be available for the 950 2020? Even the stock 2022 HO model swap? Very intrested
What do you recommend for a box stock UF800? Used as a work vehicle on our farm, not for racing or mud bogging. Congrats on the dyno, it shows actual proof without the guess work
Thank ya much sir..
Honestly I wouldn't recommend a clutch kit for your application.. the stock will be more than sufficient for you. Just use low gear when using it to haul or tow
Do you have a video with intake exhaust tune stage 3 clutch and 32s? That's my build plan like to know what I'll get for my money once it all comes together
Msc clutch kits for the win.
No doubt
Would love to see this test on a U1000 with 15" wheels and 30" tires.
We can make that happen
@@RealTalkPowersports do it!
with those big heavy tires, don't you need a spring/shock update?
What was peak power with stage 3
Good stuff man get r done !
Yes sir! Thank u
Just ordered a stage 3 kit and im running 30 inch bfg tires .. should i go to a 32 inch tire ?
It will work great your 30 inch tires and it will also help greatly with 32s
Why didn’t you show max dyno torque with stage two and stage three you said that was most important to get close to the max torque with stock tires at 812
Good afternoon! Great video! I’m wondering, can you fit 32’s on a stock Z950 wheel?
Yes with most tires you can get away with it.. Ive seen Carnivores fit the stock wheels in a 32 inch size
But i love the extra width and stability that you get with a 5+2 offset wheel
@@RealTalkPowersports Thank you so much for your response! I’m with you on that one! Great content on your channel by the way, God Bless!
I just hope the tunes for the 950 work for the z1000, and they have a quick turn around go get them sent back.
Bonjour j'ai installé le stage 3 le couple est bien mais j'ai perdue de la vitesse max pneus en 30P 100kmh aux compteur je me demande si c'est normale merci
Does affect clutch kit on factory warranty?
Do you have any vids of both the stage 3 and an ecu tune?
How is your dyno calculating torque, its not showing ft/lb or Nm.
We need ecu tunes for the CForce 600s...😁
Is there a discount code to pair the stage 2 and 3 kits together? Repeat customer!
I have 32s on my 950, and looking to do this exact set up. Can you show some max speed runs to see how much we're going to lose on the top end with both stage 2 and 3? Can't wait for the tuning and exhausts to come!
Yes sir.. we can.. we just never ran past 50mph on the dyno for our consistent testing.
How much top end was lost with the stage 2 and 3?
How do u guys go bigger on the tires and not void the warranty
What was the overall HP with the kits? Got stock and stock with 32s, what with the kits?
64.4 with stage 3
Question: Using Stock tires, what clutch pack would be best for my 600 CFMoto CForce. Seems like it takes a lot of throttle to take off (to engage) and also when you are only going 10 to 20 mph it seems the RPM's are higher than they should be. I dont need all the power I just want to give it the throttle and it go up in speed a little faster (Higher gear ratio). Stock clutch pack seems like it just does not open up soon enough, I have 2 of these 2021 600's less than 20 hrs on them.
MSC can send you a custom Clutch kit for that desired result. Just text 662-438-6407 tomorrow or Thursday and include in your text that you would like to work with Dylan for a clutch kit for your 600 and include that you spoke with Blake. I'll talk with Dylan tomorrow and we will get you what you need for your desired result.
with a stage 2 and 32 inch tires on a zforce 950 ex what should i clock my secondary at, it says b1 on instruction but is that with oem tires is there a different clocking number for 32 tires
With our Stage 2 kit even with 32s, you need to clock it at B1.. anything more than that will be overkill
I'm am 60 year old man that just run around in the woods, not fast at all, would like to add 27" tires, but for way I ride do I need clutches too??
I have a uforce 600 by the way
The stock clutching should be just fine for you.
Hey Blake, do you have a rough cost on the clutch kits?
It's all public info on the MSC website.. just go in on there and add to your cart what stage you want
So excited to get my helix. I was thinking what would the difference be if you used the over ride switch. I know its only for situations when you need more power.
The override is for reverse if I'm not mistaken.. I have actually never used it
@@RealTalkPowersports I haven't used it either. I went and looked in the owners manual and its for 4wd lock.
Are eating belts at all?
Has there been a test on the stage 2 & stage 3 clutch kits with stock tires? I would be interested in know what the power output would be...@realtalkpowersports
The stage 3 will give very bad results with the stock tires. The stage 2 definitely helps but it is like lowering the gear ratio. The stage 3 is specifically designed for big heavey mud tires
@@RealTalkPowersports Good to know. Mechanically challenged guys like me might wrongfully assume that if you get good results with a much heavier wheel/tire combo, then the stock setup would get a huge boost in power and torque with these stage 2 & 3 clutch kits.
Hey ya'll, so is there a way to contact you, in a one on one conversation?
Are you going to do any clutch work on the Uforce ?
Yes sir.. its already available for the uforce as well. We just haven't done a video on the kit yet
@@RealTalkPowersports perfect!! I’m on you alls list for the Uforce xl . Would like to get some wheels and tires while there
What peak power with stage 3
How can you buy the stage 3 clutch from Mexico?
Just go to the main street cycle website and you can order from there. Or you may have to text the shop and order that way 662-438-6407
Does putting bigger tyres make the speedo incorrect?
Yes it does effect the speedometer
somethings wrong with your website though unless it works on mobile?
its just not working on my desktop, damn technology.
what about the U800
There is a kit that we have put together for it as well. It's available at MSC
How much speed did you lose?
We never ran them past around 50 on the dyno while testing.
What was peak torque with stage 2 and stage 3
@@R.N.GPerformance he told me 65 at the max.
@@R.N.GPerformance I'm right with him and top out at 80. 😂
uforce 1000 on 30s next!
Have you all done the test to confirm the belt actually runs cooler. That’s all I’m waiting on to order. I just want to make sure it’s enough difference to throw away my old kit from you all. Thanks!
What causes belt temperatures to increase above normal operating temperatures?
Reduced or poor airflow.. and Belt Slipping…
With the stage 2 kit we eliminate as much belt slippage as possible while still delivering the smoothest engagement possible and adding more bottom end and mid range pull
Hey is there a way to chat with you, 1 on 1?
you raised the cost of $199, to $399, why>? I think Price gouging is going on
What positions are yall clocking the secondary to.
With Stage 2 Spring on this setup we clock it at B1
@@RealTalkPowersports thank you I thought about c1 or stock settings with 23g weights and I'm running 27" outback maxis.
So far from me for when I get my 950 :(
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